Purpleheart color modification and preservation (Part 1)

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The Snekker Show

The Snekker Show

Күн бұрын

Purpleheart wood changes color, which is sometimes disappointing, then cool, then eventually disappointing again. When I posted my first wood-baking video, I noticed that the purpleheart got a deeper color when baked and that color seemed to be more permanent, so I decided to run a test to figure out the best temperature and time for baking. I ended up with more questions, but at least I answered some of the ones I started with.
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@quietinspirationcreations3448
@quietinspirationcreations3448 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, so I know this video is a year old and Ben likely won't see it, but HOLY S**T! I bought a 6"x1"x12" piece of purple heart from one of these exotic hardwood dealers because I thought it was the coolest thing ever (very new to wood and had no idea what is out there). Well it was a dusty brownish mauve, at best, barely considered purple-ish, but I thought I'd give it a try... and... To my shock and amazement, the wood came out the most beautiful royal purple, it's absolutely amazing, thanks BEN! I wish we could post pictures, I'm so grateful for this video.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear it was helpful.
@EarthmachinistC137
@EarthmachinistC137 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, I just want to say, "Thank you!" Your video was very informative, I followed your logic and the results turned out to be spectacular! I also threw in a piece of padauk just to see what would happen out of curiosity, and it just got darker if anyone was wondering. Was hoping to pull more red from the natural orange, but nah, just got darker and more brownish, but the purple heart is simply amazing. Will never not use this technique again. Thank you!
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, glad it was helpful.
@davo7512
@davo7512 3 жыл бұрын
If you’re looking for a bright red or sometimes orange wood I recommend researching some Australian red gum, specifically river red gum
@scottgordon4601
@scottgordon4601 Жыл бұрын
Ingenious! Thank you for figuring this out and sharing it. What a difference it makes.
@RichoWoodworking
@RichoWoodworking Жыл бұрын
Good stuff. Thanks for taking time to do the experiment so others don't have to. Very helpful for my current project.
@6275WJB
@6275WJB Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the quick response, this is my first time working with it, I wasn't sure how to proceed to put a finish on my project. Thanks again have a great day.
@drumdog53
@drumdog53 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info and great video. I had no idea baking it would bring out the color like it does. Makes for a nice knife handle.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome, I bet that looks great on a knife.
@zeprahzzz
@zeprahzzz 3 жыл бұрын
Cheers, worked like a charm. I sanded the wood beforehand and I feel like the baking made the woods texture more uniform, suppose it might've shrunk a bit too. Exposure to air seemed to be of no consequence, put the wood on parchment paper lined rack and the bottoms looked the same as the tops.
@a.j.bartley8449
@a.j.bartley8449 2 жыл бұрын
I am about to use purpleheart in a project and I was wondering about deepening and darkening the color. This is a fantastic experiment and I may use this for my project.
@carolyngray8008
@carolyngray8008 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Baking a bunch of purple heart right now! My hubby asked whether I didn’t want to do an experimental piece. I have no time for that! 🤣
@MartinSh429
@MartinSh429 2 жыл бұрын
very cool video and informative. Thank you! and good luck with all your videos and projects
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@eejuice
@eejuice 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent vid! My boy and I bought a short plank of purpleheart this afternoon and I plan to saw some of it into pen blanks. I was wondering about its "colour-fast-ness" and this vid really helped. I'll bake up a few pieces this evening and see how it goes. Thanks!
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback. Let me know how it turns out.
@mgnoodle2589
@mgnoodle2589 3 жыл бұрын
Invaluable information. Thank you.
@guyloren
@guyloren 10 ай бұрын
Superb info,thanks Ben- about to embark on a purpleheart project & was concerned about colour longevity.Will now be baking it first!👍🏻
@guyloren
@guyloren 10 ай бұрын
Edit: have now baked it,& I've been lucky- superb deep rich purple throughout the blank,minimal splitting.Thanks!😃👍🏻
@Timwoodworks
@Timwoodworks 2 жыл бұрын
Great experiment, exactly the info i needed, thanks!
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
My pleasure, glad it was helpful.
@jmaywoodworks
@jmaywoodworks Жыл бұрын
Enjoyed your video. It explains why my drum sander turns the wood so dark. It heats up the wood and draws more oils out and the oil is what’s turning dark purple like a crayon.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
From one of my earlier experiments baking a variety of different woods, I found that purpleheart took longer to cool than most of the other samples. I think part of the reason it burns so easily when routing or sanding is that the density and oil makes it retain heat.
@charleseaton402
@charleseaton402 Жыл бұрын
Years ago, I worked for a musical instrument maker that used Purpleheart , along with other exotic woods. The company would place the Purpleheart bodies in florescent booths for hrs. I don't remember the time frame, however this helped maintain the purple in the Purpleheart color. I never saw an instrument that had lost is color after being placed in a florescent booth, even yrs later.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
Very interesting. I'm overdue for a follow-up to this video, but that might need to be tested.
@timconnell4570
@timconnell4570 3 жыл бұрын
Thnx for your effort. Great knowledge.
@nodfactor8808
@nodfactor8808 4 жыл бұрын
Cool video! It would be cool to figure out a way to keep it purple permanently!
@noemid1458
@noemid1458 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u for all the info good stuff.. I was saying don't cut the spoon 😲 .. But I know u u did it ..i like your wooden spoon. 😄
@mattg7207
@mattg7207 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately I found this video after glue up. So I put my picture frame in the dryer on a rack, since I wasn't sure how 300 degrees would affect glue. 1 1/2 hours made a big difference. Thank you!
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
Most PVA glue will handle 300 degrees with no trouble, but the resulting wood movement can shear the joint apart. Smart move with the dryer rack.
@CommercialForest
@CommercialForest 4 жыл бұрын
I like your roasted wood experiments! Purpleheart is well suited to video presentation, especially against a maple backdrop. Well shot! I imagine contractors field plenty of call backs on purpleheart projects due to oxidation-related color changes. Contractors...bookmark this video. Or better yet, show them this video before starting a purpleheart project! 😀
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and welcome to the channel. Looks like you have some wood videos on your channel I'll have to check out.
@CommercialForest
@CommercialForest 4 жыл бұрын
The Snekker Show Sounds good. That’s what they’re there for 👍 I actually had an idea for a wood experiment of my own a while back that I never did anything with - mostly because I’m lazy but also because I don’t really have the equipment. Do you take unsolicited episode ideas?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 4 жыл бұрын
@@CommercialForest Yes, but I never get around to most of them.
@CommercialForest
@CommercialForest 4 жыл бұрын
The Snekker Show likewise 😆
@yyw7481
@yyw7481 3 жыл бұрын
Subscribed!
@claudeelliott3993
@claudeelliott3993 Жыл бұрын
I'm curious as to how your better half responded to her favorite spoon being cut in half?? Actually, very interesting treatment heat treating purpleheart to maintaining color. Gonna try it.
@adamwrong7791
@adamwrong7791 3 жыл бұрын
Funny tonight was my first experience with purple heart. Like you said i cut into it and was disappointed. I red about putting it in the sun and I thought why not just hit it with a torch? Sure enough it turn deep dark purple.
@matthewdenty7760
@matthewdenty7760 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see you let the thiner in the jar evaporate and see the oil used on the wood 🤔
@davebashford3753
@davebashford3753 8 ай бұрын
I have a pile of sawdust on my garage floor that says he's wrong about the default or inner, fresh-cut color of purpleheart, It's definitely purple. And it definitely oxidizes to grey/silver with time. Although pots that I turned 20 years ago, finished with shellac & wax and kept out of the sun, are still purple.
@tensu4831
@tensu4831 3 жыл бұрын
Great Video! I have custom made guitar with purpleheart fingerboard which matchs purple body finish so nicely, and I just love it. By the way, I think maybe you could just sand down the surface of your wife's spoon to reveal the inner color rather than cut it into two pieces :p
@vina4880
@vina4880 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and congrats on the success. I'd like to know if, despite the spoon being split in half, did the marriage survive? (j/k)
@LukeShingoose
@LukeShingoose 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Ben, Great video here, I learned a lot of information. I am just curious here if you applied any finish to that spoon? I am curious if any finish is needed after baking, provided that there will be no contact with soaps, and mostly just hands (for example a tool handle or a guitar neck). Thanks!
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 4 жыл бұрын
KZbin hasn't been notifying me lately when there are comments. I finished the spoon with walnut oil, which has to be reapplied once in a while. Hands usually have a little natural grease or oil on them, so some kind of finish is recommended to protect the wood.
@mikeniz135
@mikeniz135 2 жыл бұрын
Dude even had a control piece, what a legend.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
Still have it too. One of these days I'm going to make the sequel to this one.
@kyle_mk17
@kyle_mk17 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow YEA! my teacher in the robotics club I just joined told me about Purple heart wood yesterday and I've been doing some light research here on youtube. I'd be excited to see what lasts longest because I want to make a chess board by combining it with a different type of wood, also, might you have any woodworking projects for beginners, I've always found it pretty interesting and this seems like an interesting way to get into it I'd love to see the sequel to this when you make it, and thank you for making this video!
@kyle_mk17
@kyle_mk17 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow Watching the video a bit more and the 350* piece for 90 minutes and 120 minues look like they might do well for the dark pieces, i'd have to see it for myself in person and I'd have to see how well it holds up too. Again, thank you for making this video, it has been be a great assistance to me so far.
@kyle_mk17
@kyle_mk17 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow I won't be putting a chessboard into the dishwasher, so i don't think i'll need to worry about what happening to your spoon happening to my Chessboard in the future.
@qaidikramuddin
@qaidikramuddin Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much dear sir.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
You're quite welcome.
@completefabrications6263
@completefabrications6263 11 ай бұрын
The oven is all well and good, but incredibly slow and, as other comments indicate, as likely to leech the oils out of the piece as deepen and distribute them. So allow me to posit the alternative that purist woodworkers are likely to find as offensive as professional chefs, but improves upon the process for all the same sciency reasons... ...microwave 30-60 second bursts, flipping the piece each time, and in 2-3 minutes (for 3/4" thick pieces), you have perfectly purple, evenly oil-distributed purpleheart
@necrokittie2291
@necrokittie2291 Жыл бұрын
you should put another wood stripe down the center of her favorite spoon and give it a good sanding. i'd pick a black wood personally.
@bryansmith6508
@bryansmith6508 3 жыл бұрын
Ben I loved you video on backing the purple heart wood so I gave it a try. I’m kinda behind the eight ball on my project trying to get it finished. I used a cut off piece (4x5x1/2) at 350 for one hour. It came warped and twisted. I loved the color though and when I cut it the color went all the through. How would you prevent the warping, maybe raise the temperature from 250 to 350 in 30 minute ingredients. Just a thought. I will give it a try myself.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
This is how I reduce warping: instagram.com/p/B9pvPz3jlRE/?igshid=10syekyudo1o4
@theresageorge2296
@theresageorge2296 Жыл бұрын
Should post an update haha I'm curious as we are working with purple heart
@jimmysmith3861
@jimmysmith3861 Жыл бұрын
Just saw your videos great information. I'm making a bandsaw box with purple heart and Ash, I like the idea of putting it in the oven for one hour, but I'm wondering if the Ash will burn or change ? Do you have any answers about that? Should I have put the purple heart in the oven before gluing the Ash in? Thanks for any info. Jimmy
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
Yes, the ash will turn a little browner. You can also expect some shrinkage and wood movement as it dries, so this is best done before gluing anything.
@idoariav4100
@idoariav4100 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that awesome vid! any advice on what can be done for pieces too large to fit in an oven? (working on a side table from purpleheart atm)
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried any large pieces. You could try a heat gun or possibly a clothes iron, but heating one side of a board is likely to cause warping.
@ff-qf1th
@ff-qf1th 3 жыл бұрын
We're gonna need a bigger oven.
@TheDogWalksTheDog
@TheDogWalksTheDog 3 жыл бұрын
careful not to overbake or go to hot watch it closley you can also sand on it and it stays purple.
@christopherorth9654
@christopherorth9654 27 күн бұрын
While this method can be effective in restoring the color of wood, it is important to exercise caution as it may cause significant warping of the material.
@lucasmartinnanniferri5963
@lucasmartinnanniferri5963 3 жыл бұрын
I put a purple heart piece in the oven but it starts to do a cracking sound... anyone know why? Maybe its too dry? Thanks
@Triumph2727
@Triumph2727 10 ай бұрын
Where do you get your thicker purpleheart lumber? And what did you bake the wood at to make it purple? Also, what part of the lumber is the bark? I have 6’ of live edge purpleheart and want to do an epoxy resin board.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 10 ай бұрын
I haven't bought any purpleheart in years, but it's pretty easy to find thicker boards at most exotic lumber dealers.
@HappyPappynKatyTX
@HappyPappynKatyTX Жыл бұрын
Does thermally modified purple 💜 warp, twist or cup when heated for an hour at 350 degrees. Thanks for the best purple 💜 restoration video on youstubes. Appreciated.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
In the same batch of boards, I've had some twist and others stay relatively flat. It usually helps to clamp or otherwise bind pieces together, and to warm up at a lower temperature first. instagram.com/p/B9pvPz3jlRE/
@HappyPappynKatyTX
@HappyPappynKatyTX Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow Thank you. I'm actually cooking mine tomorrow. I will let you know how it goes. I'm nervous. I spent a lot of money to frame out a large sized blanket chest with all purple 💜.
@markhawk6985
@markhawk6985 Жыл бұрын
Would a series of heat laps do to get the color all the way through the wood. My pieces at 30” long by 1 3/4” by 1 3/4” to be joined into a staff
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
If you're referring to using a heat gun or torch, I've tried it before with inconsistent results, and it wouldn't heat all the way through.
@yyw7481
@yyw7481 3 жыл бұрын
Great video~ I bought some purpleheart to make a keyboard suport pad.Your information is helpful ,but I only got the file knief and sand paper.Forget my poor english (from china.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful. I'm sure your English is a lot better than my Chinese.
@LarryBloom
@LarryBloom 3 жыл бұрын
Ummm.....at 7:09, you are saying "after 30 minutes" but you are pointing to the 2nd (60 minute) piece of wood....?????
@shawncase2225
@shawncase2225 4 жыл бұрын
Heads up, this WILL shrink the wood. Bake it before cutting to size. I did not do this. 2-1/4" width lost about 3/32"...
@VerminousPlayZ
@VerminousPlayZ 9 ай бұрын
@TheSnekkerShow hay i was wondering if you have done a peace of purpleheart that is kilm dried and still got the purple to come back
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 9 ай бұрын
Yes, it will work with kiln dried purpleheart.
@VerminousPlayZ
@VerminousPlayZ 9 ай бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow thank you
@denisewascavage209
@denisewascavage209 Жыл бұрын
So absolutely this wouldn’t apply to live edge slags. Lol Congratulations on your ratings! Keep it up..
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
It would take one heck of an oven. I've tried doing it manually with a heat gun or torch, but it's almost impossible to get an even color.
@John--cu2yu
@John--cu2yu 2 жыл бұрын
Could you experiment by using a high powered UV light and various times of exposure
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
I keep thinking I'm going to set up a more detailed test, but it hasn't made it to the top of the list yet. The UV light is a good idea though. Even better if a vacuum chamber was involved to rule out air as a variable.
@denisewascavage209
@denisewascavage209 Жыл бұрын
This is great for small pieces what do you do for large slabs?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
Get a job at a pizza restaurant. Earn their trust. Stay late and use the oven to bake slabs. Then quit. Don't tell them it was my idea. I'll deny everything. I was going to build an outdoor wood oven using HVAC ducts, but haven't committed to it yet. Getting high enough temperatures and even heating would be challenging.
@CodeXCDM
@CodeXCDM Жыл бұрын
Just tried this on a project and wow... Went from a boring color to vibrant. Do you have an update on your board two years later?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
I'm late doing an update video, but it is in my near-term queue.
@CodeXCDM
@CodeXCDM Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow sweet. Look forward to it. Your video did proved helpful and encouraging. Made a frame that became this unpleasant brown... Hit it in an oven BAM nice and purple.
@arammandossian8330
@arammandossian8330 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm making a purpleheart dining table. Large one that's made up of 5 boards glued together. Since I can't bake the table in an oven, I think heat gun will be best. However I'm worried about the heat undoing the wood glue! Does anyone know about this? Is it worth even trying carefully, or is too risky? I really want that nice deep violet color you've got here. One thing I read also suggested keeping it under a 100W lightbulb overnight.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
A heat gun is likely to warp your boards since it will heat and dry only one side of the table top at a time. Also, it would take hours to heat everything consistently. I don't think a light bulb would do anything, since I've had pieces stored in a box that changed color just the same. Your best bet in this case is probably just time.
@arammandossian8330
@arammandossian8330 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow wow thanks for getting back to me!! Really appreciate it. It would be devastating to ruin the table at this point, thanks for your input. I may try the light bulb since it wouldn’t harm anything.
@BoringDad88
@BoringDad88 3 жыл бұрын
Did it work?
@debashis675
@debashis675 2 жыл бұрын
Hi friend, It is an interesting video. However if you could give me any ideas on vernishing process that could preserve the purple color for prolonged time. I am able to find some purple wood which could be selected for my furniture if you have some positive answers.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've figured that out yet. I have tried a wide range of indoor and outdoor finishes, but it always seems to fade eventually. Oil-based finishes tend to work better than water-based ones, and thicker films seem to last longer than thin ones.
@yashasvibhuta4969
@yashasvibhuta4969 3 жыл бұрын
I rub it with lemon to make it a bit magenta
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting, I'll have to give that a shot.
@WilliamPayneNZ
@WilliamPayneNZ 4 жыл бұрын
Here’s a crazy question for you. A wood like Purpleheart would be great for a workbench top for metalwork as it is so hard. What if we wanted to speed up the process off it going brown?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 4 жыл бұрын
I've never tried that, but you could probably just stain it to hide the purple color. I'm not sure if it would be my first choice for a metalworking bench because it's prone to splintering. Beech or maple would probably work better if you have access to it.
@ff-qf1th
@ff-qf1th 3 жыл бұрын
I'd say put it under UV light to accelerate the color change?
@jwmcneelyIII
@jwmcneelyIII 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like very pretty and expensive wood for something like that. I agree that maple or something "would" be better. And it's already the right color.
@tburklin
@tburklin 4 жыл бұрын
I am making a paper tray out of purpleheart - the whole thing would fit in the oven. I want to figure out when to bake it, after cutting to size, pre-gluing, or as final assembly? I'm a little worried about warping the wood. Do you have any thoughts on that?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 4 жыл бұрын
Tough to say without seeing it. The wood will almost definitely warp during baking, and again as it gradually re-acclimates to room temperature and moisture content. Time will be your friend here. I would bake the wood first, let it sit for at least a week, then cut to size and glue everything together.
@tburklin
@tburklin 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow Thanks for the reply! Maybe I'll do a test piece first.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 4 жыл бұрын
@@tburklin I just put a picture on my Instagram page that might help with the baking.
@HappyPappynKatyTX
@HappyPappynKatyTX Жыл бұрын
Another weekend warrior woodworker told me to sand, wipe off with acetone, then set outside in direct sunlight for 3 hours. The repeat as necessary. Things that make you go hmmmmmmmm.... Anyone try this method? I can't wait to cook my purple 💜. Liked and subscribed. Appreciated 👍
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
I have a UV blocking film on my workshop window, and I've seen fresh-cut boards go from brown to purple in just a few hours. I should probably test this with matching boards.
@Doyle-E
@Doyle-E Жыл бұрын
Greetings from the uk tryed this with 8x1 and it developed cracks bit upset but live and lern thanks for the vid tho
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I've had a couple pieces give me trouble too, sometimes cut from the same board.
@Doyle-E
@Doyle-E Жыл бұрын
Iv just taken out of oven after 1hr the fine cracks arnt as bad as tgey looked after 30 do you have a fb page i can send u my results?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
@@Doyle-E No, I don't use Facebook. Sounds like it might have been a moisture issue, with the outside of the board drying quickly and shrinking before the center. I usually start at a lower temperature to help avoid this, but it still sometimes happens. Wrapping it up might help if moisture is an issue, but I haven't tried that yet with purpleheart: kzbin.info/www/bejne/a3W8eGujjLmra6M
@Doyle-E
@Doyle-E Жыл бұрын
Just took a look outside in natral light definatly a fiew hairline cracks hopefully i can still use it for the plaques im marking
@ryanhuff585
@ryanhuff585 2 жыл бұрын
What about glue? I’ve glued up two purpleheart panels (still small enough for the oven) - how will the glue react when in the oven at 350?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
It depends on which glue you're using, but Titebond is tested at around 400 if I'm not mistaken. The glue will survive, but since the pieces of wood will shrink and warp as they dry, it could pull the glue joints apart. I've been planning to do a video about this, but it hasn't made it to the top of the list yet.
@ryanhuff585
@ryanhuff585 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow thanks
@johanlee4552
@johanlee4552 4 жыл бұрын
Do you put the wood straight on the oven rack?
@EarthmachinistC137
@EarthmachinistC137 4 жыл бұрын
I did, and he's right, it goes all the way through. I'm using a toaster oven with a meat thermometer so my temp is probably off by a lot, I achieved similar results at about 300 for 30 minutes, but my pieces were much smaller, about 1/4 to 1/2 inch thick. Absolutely beautifully rich in color. I sanded them down afterwards and there was no color loss at all!
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 4 жыл бұрын
As long as the rack is clean that will work, but I usually put it on some aluminum foil.
@kristencox8418
@kristencox8418 10 ай бұрын
My knife is done. I tried the acetone wash and that hasn't made it more purple. Do you think I can bake it with the knife done (rivets, blade and all)?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 10 ай бұрын
That would be risky. It's hard to tell when wood is going to warp or squeeze out some sap.
@kristencox8418
@kristencox8418 10 ай бұрын
I also tried a test of lemon juice and both types of vinegar. No go. Hoping for some n ice sunny, hot days to really try the acetone. Guess I should have finished this in July! (From the PNW)
@PointManify
@PointManify 9 ай бұрын
If your knife is made of anything other than 300 or 400 series surgical stainless steel, heating it in an oven will soften the metal and make it difficult to keep an edge. A surgical instrument repair technician once advised me to use only cold water for rinsing my razor. Once I started doing that, I got twice the life out of my blades.
@Wolverine05
@Wolverine05 Жыл бұрын
Wow just wow. Was going to take on the challenge of an end grain cutting board made from African ebony and purple heart. Now I can keep that colour and just so happens I work in a bakery with a huge oven lol and iam a mechanic so I can run it on downtime to do big pieces hahaahahahahahah
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
Nice, I could use a bigger oven. Purpleheart and ebony are dense woods, so I'd give it several weeks after baking to let the moisture levels equalize.
@Wolverine05
@Wolverine05 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow thanks for the advice. The purple you brought out is really something else
@davemeeks8109
@davemeeks8109 2 жыл бұрын
What would happen if you wrap your piece tight with foil before putting in the oven.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried it yet, but I suspect the outcome would be similar. The foil might just help retain some of the wood's moisture.
@psilan1
@psilan1 3 жыл бұрын
Just did a deck in purple heart. I can't wait for it to not be purple!
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think I've ever seen a purpleheart deck before. You must be close to the lumber source.
@kevinbaker2470
@kevinbaker2470 3 жыл бұрын
I call bull shitt.
@enzprintco.8625
@enzprintco.8625 3 жыл бұрын
Then....ummm...why did you use purpleheart? $$$ and you don’t like the color...............🤨
@bartosullivan8050
@bartosullivan8050 3 жыл бұрын
I built an exterior staircase with Purple Heart Treads leading up to an Ipe Landing. In short time both became silver.
@enzprintco.8625
@enzprintco.8625 3 жыл бұрын
@@bartosullivan8050 did you seal protect them?
@6275WJB
@6275WJB Жыл бұрын
At any time do you need to wipe the purple heart off with Mineral Spirits??
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
It's not something I do.
@jmaywoodworks
@jmaywoodworks Жыл бұрын
It’s good to do before glue up to get the natural wood oils off. Much better glue adhesion.
@6275WJB
@6275WJB Жыл бұрын
@@jmaywoodworks Thanks for your advice.
@jedzone1031
@jedzone1031 3 жыл бұрын
I would have sanded before ruining a perfectly good spoon! Also have you tried soaking it in different oils also to see if it absorbs/help darken the color?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
I thought about it, but I figured it would be more educational to see all the way to the center. I had to make my wife another purpleheart spoon later. I haven't tried many different oils, but that would make an interesting experiment. instagram.com/p/B6RZsZNgQvF/?igshid=15keqgz8ngk78
@mwinters2949
@mwinters2949 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow I think the phrase your looking for : “For science!”
@kevinthomas8667
@kevinthomas8667 6 ай бұрын
Do you think this would work with red heart as well?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 6 ай бұрын
I'm not sure if I have any red heart to try it, but it does not work well with padauk. It just turns it brown.
@yashasvibhuta4969
@yashasvibhuta4969 3 жыл бұрын
can i bake in regular oven? a already made box??
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
It might work, but it would be risky. Most PVA glue will survive 350 degrees Fahrenheit, but the wood might want to move and pull the joints apart while the glue is softened. If there's any finish on the box then it might create toxic fumes.
@Nick-qn5nf
@Nick-qn5nf Жыл бұрын
How do you bake them? Lay them on a sheet or something? On their sides, or?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, for this batch I put them on an aluminum baking sheet. Normally, I'll use the wire racks for better air circulation. If you stack the wood, make sure the spacers allow enough air flow so things darken evenly.
@Nick-qn5nf
@Nick-qn5nf Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow oh, you could put them directly on the rack? That doesn't leave burn marks?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
@Nick I haven't had trouble with that, but I think I've mostly done that at lower temperatures. You can always use dowels or strips of scrap wood as a spacer.
@Nick-qn5nf
@Nick-qn5nf Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow good idea. I'll have to do some experimenting with some smaller pieces.
@buffywinfree
@buffywinfree Жыл бұрын
Wish we had better visibility... cant see much.
@brandin2818
@brandin2818 Жыл бұрын
Will sanding after baking in the oven affect the color?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
No, I almost always sand after baking.
@brandin2818
@brandin2818 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow Awesome thank you
@Nick-qn5nf
@Nick-qn5nf Жыл бұрын
So I tried 350 for 30 minutes yesterday on some strips & unfortunately, most of them ended up warping after cooling. Any ideas or tips on how to avoid?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
It's good to start at a lower temperature, then bump it up only if there aren't any issues with moisture or sap noted. I haven't had any issues yet, except for a few boards that twisted.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
Also, clamping the boards together can help. Try to keep the stickers/spacers close to the ends, because they will add some thermal insulation that will affect the color.
@Nick-qn5nf
@Nick-qn5nf Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow I can definitely see clamping being helpful, but how do you do it? Bit apprehensive about cooking some actual clamps lol
@Nick-qn5nf
@Nick-qn5nf Жыл бұрын
@@TheSnekkerShow would excess sap in the wood make warping more likely?
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
@Nick Take the pads off, and proceed with caution if there's a lot of plastic. instagram.com/p/B9pvPz3jlRE/
@ios6605
@ios6605 9 ай бұрын
A Torch
@jumpbluesdude
@jumpbluesdude 3 жыл бұрын
I picked up some purple heart and tried this. It twisted to be almost unusable and sap boiled out of the grain. FYI
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I've had a few pieces that twisted as well, sometimes from the same boards as other pieces that turned out great.
@kevinbaker2470
@kevinbaker2470 3 жыл бұрын
When you guys put it in the oven did you let oven preheat? Or did you let ot heat up with wood inside? Also were you using a conventional or a convection oven? Just curious, building a floating purplewood frame for canvas art and really want to bring out the beauty if the wood
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbaker2470 I normally let the wood heat with the oven, or raise the temperature incrementally, to reduce stress on the wood and avoid case hardening. I'm using a convection oven, but my earlier experiments were with a conventional oven.
@edwardaltman1415
@edwardaltman1415 3 жыл бұрын
i also had 3 boards, approx, 3/4 x 1 1/4 x18", undergo the process - 350 degrees for 60 minutes. Color change was outstanding but the boards are unuseable due to really severe twisting. used convection oven. will try allowing wood to heat up with oven. also will try clamping as soon as boards cool a bit after removal from oven.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
@@edwardaltman1415 You can also clamp while it's in the oven. Just take the plastic pads off first. instagram.com/p/B9pvPz3jlRE/?igshid=1ltjbsw4972yu
@LarryBloom
@LarryBloom 2 жыл бұрын
BAD RESULTS! Per your video, I just put a couple of boards in the oven at 350. They were 1" thick, ripped to 2.5" and 15" long. After one hour, I found the boards to be pushing out a sappy resin; much of it came out of the ends, especially the bottom (I had the boards on edge), but also in random spots on the face surface. LOTS of smell, BTW. After they cooled, they look absolutely horrible, with some areas being a nice deep purple and some areas looking to be much LIGHTER than they started, like the colored resins migrated!!! I had done this before with a smaller piece, like you used, but with these larger pieces, the results were just terrible and I expect I will have to throw the wood away.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
Someone else commented about a similar experience. It's good to start at a lower temperature, then bump it up only if there aren't any issues with moisture or sap noted. I haven't had any issues yet, except for a few boards that twisted.
@paulschraith2578
@paulschraith2578 Жыл бұрын
It appears from people’s experiences that the color , as you deducted, is in the oil. Thank you everyone for all your research! This has been the most information I have found on the subject!
@goodtimeshuntintv1554
@goodtimeshuntintv1554 2 жыл бұрын
SIDE NOTE: Do NOT use this method when you have a glued up piece that you spent 4 hours hand carving/ etching. DOH! 20 minutes into the 350 temp I opened the door to see if the color had started coming back yet and noted that my glue joints had all but completely separated.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
Ouch. Hopefully the piece is still salvageable. After a week or two the moisture levels should get closer to the ambient air, and some of the joints might close back up a little.
@koolaficantube
@koolaficantube 3 жыл бұрын
Try using lemon juice then varnish and let's see
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 3 жыл бұрын
That's an interesting approach. Have you tried this before?
@PaulGrilliot-uy7nc
@PaulGrilliot-uy7nc Жыл бұрын
1 hour is way too long. It brought out the oil in mine and ruined it.
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear that. I've had a few pieces that didn't turn out how I wanted, and others that looked great after the same process. The sweet spot usually lies somewhere between 30 and 60 minutes.
@t-shirtguy7845
@t-shirtguy7845 2 жыл бұрын
Sprinkle some sawdust around... looks like those power tools are brand new. :-)
@kaibilbalam7151
@kaibilbalam7151 2 жыл бұрын
Aaawwwrrrrrrrr, so hard to hear what you are sayin!!!🤦🏽
@TheSnekkerShow
@TheSnekkerShow 2 жыл бұрын
After spending around $600 upgrading audio equipment, my newer videos sound much better. For the older stuff, you'll just need to turn up your volume or get some better speakers.
@kaibilbalam7151
@kaibilbalam7151 2 жыл бұрын
I did, thank you, i wish i had a bigger oven, tho, i work with 30” plus pieces of purple, well first time coming up….thank you for your video, great feedback!!!!
@paulpalmer5264
@paulpalmer5264 3 жыл бұрын
I would not run that to the bandsaw to take something favorite of your wife's and destroy it is foolish you should have put it in the oven to see if it would return purple your mistake not mine
@donmeyers3090
@donmeyers3090 6 ай бұрын
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