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Quest for Glory Retrospective Part II: Trial By Fire

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PushingUpRoses

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@willsieruta
@willsieruta 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Smith needs to hurry up and Quest for Glory 3
@Sunborne187
@Sunborne187 4 ай бұрын
5 years later and no video. sadness
@lzestrara1518
@lzestrara1518 Ай бұрын
@@Sunborne187 Seriously sad.
@Surllio
@Surllio 6 жыл бұрын
Still hoping part 3 is on the way. I love quest for glory and seeing it get proper love online is always a good thing.
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 6 жыл бұрын
Just FYI: Yes, I am familiar with the AGDI remake; I seem to be getting a lot of questions on that even though I addressed it a couple times in the comments. This series won't touch on any fan remakes, it focuses on the official Quest for Glory games specifically by Sierra. But I do support the ADGI games and think they are great homages and expansions to some of the Sierra titles. Also discovered: Apparently if there is an enemy on screen and your saurus runs, you DO need to defeat that enemy. I ran away because I play the thief class, and don't feel confident in my strength or fighting skills to do a lot of combat. So if you do pick up this game, and you lose your saurus, kick the shit out of the enemy that scared and it you should be good to go. Hopefully.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
I thought a thief could get through the game without any direct combat if the player wants. Course they do need some strength if he wants to move that anvil.
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 6 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, you can beat the games without any combat. But to get the Saurus back, apparently ya gotta fight the enemy that scared him.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
I'm certain - possible bugs not withstanding - you just have to find the screen where he threw you off once the monster is no longer chasing - which can be harder after running multiple screens. If Roget's altogether lost, then you can walk back to Shapier on foot and the guard will reassure you that Saurus can find their way home on their own (as he does soon thereafter) - easy enough assuming you know if you're generally east or west of the city, and can make sure your not facing the south mountains instead of the north. :) It sucks getting really lost but that extra danger and disorientation and dehydration adds a little spice to the game IMO. I miss having the (dis)ability to loose my way in Spielburg and Mordavia, back before repeated playing branded the maps to my brain.
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 6 жыл бұрын
It's weird, because I tried so hard to get back to Shapeir (going as north as I could then hugging the mountains) and I just could not find it. At that point I was just too turned around though, I had no idea where the fuck I was. I ended up restoring, regretting the amount of time I spent hoping it would wrap around.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
I never liked the whole wrap around of some early Quest Games; at first it gives a sense of wide open space but once I caught on it felt immersion bending - I assume they did it so they didn't have to design realistic barriers. It worked when they wrote some magical reason for it, like Glastonbury hill in Conquests of Camelot, or maybe before king's quest became an expansive world/series, Daventry could be this abstract fairy tale world all to itself. Quest for Glory always felt much more real from the start to me, the Hero had traveled from another land in the north, somehow it never occurred to me the desert might wrap around, despite playing a lot of Black Cauldron and KQ3. I remember being amazed that the desert seemed to go on forever though, and thought: surely there must be a barrier or something if I kept going...nope it's essentially endless I guess, but somehow keeps track of how far out you are. Still pretty cool to me, I wonder if it was a challenge to program.
@Disthron
@Disthron 5 жыл бұрын
Oh man, looks like you never got around to QG3, and that wasn't even my favorite. I was hoping you'd do QG4 as well.
@Soulsphere001
@Soulsphere001 3 жыл бұрын
Yup, #4 seems to be most peoples favourite by far.
@Disthron
@Disthron 3 жыл бұрын
@@Soulsphere001 Well, my personal fav is the fist one, but 4 is a close second. ^_^
@Soulsphere001
@Soulsphere001 3 жыл бұрын
@@Disthron Fair enough, the first is great as well.
@smithgdwg
@smithgdwg 3 жыл бұрын
Yep 4 and 1 always felt like the best. 4 had a great environment, characters, and story. I think 2 was my next favorite although it had its issues, especially with the maze, but the story was top notch. 3 was ok, but it felt like it could of been much better as it felt just too short. 5.... well I think the biggest issue was the engine. I would of been fine with using the same engine as 4 but expanding the environment. It also felt like a big letdown after 4. There are some good things in 5, but it was really brought down by the bad things.
@Soulsphere001
@Soulsphere001 3 жыл бұрын
@@smithgdwg When I first played 2, I wasn't sure what to make of it. But I liked it, too, especially the fights against the elementals and the wizard trials.
@JarrodCoombes
@JarrodCoombes 6 жыл бұрын
Pro tip, when you start this game, immediately go into the dessert and stick to the mountains (ie go left or right) until you encounter either a scorpion or a rogue, fight them and kill them. If it's a rogue then take his money, if it's a scorpion then take it's tail. Then go back to the merchant there in the first courtyard and either sell the tail to buy a map or just buy a map. This makes navigating that maze a hell of a lot easier, though you still have to find the money changer.
@richardjacobson3634
@richardjacobson3634 6 жыл бұрын
I can't believe I never thought to do that.
@sleepysartorialist
@sleepysartorialist 5 жыл бұрын
This is great!
@JStryker47
@JStryker47 4 жыл бұрын
You can sell *him* a scorpion tail? I thought only the apothecary bought those from you.
@charmsword
@charmsword 9 ай бұрын
Can't believe you stopped doing these, they are so wonderfully produced! Not to mention these games are amazing, I basically grew up and learnt English stumbling through all the text😊
@alecaquino4306
@alecaquino4306 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see part 3 of this wonderful retrospective!
@solitonsurfer8693
@solitonsurfer8693 4 жыл бұрын
Almost 2 years later and we are still waiting for QFG3.
@runeman00
@runeman00 Ай бұрын
How bout now?
@torchiest
@torchiest 6 жыл бұрын
I think the maze was supposed to act as a form of soft copy protection, as without the real life paper map it was almost impossible to find your way to the money changer.
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I hesitated to call it an official or hard form of copy protection because you technically CAN find her if you keep looking; it's not something that locks you out of the game if you didn't have the printed map, but it definitely made it significantly harder and would likely make you give up if you didn't have one. Like you said, maybe soft copy protection. Though, I could still see some dedicated adventurers writing out their own map as they went along and successfully finding places.
@Cameroo
@Cameroo 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah thats how I remembered it. I swore there was something more to it though. Still, I can forgive it.
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 6 жыл бұрын
The other problem with this is that the game was re-released many times but, as best as I can recall, never included the map. Or if they did, it would have been as a PDF that would be almost impossible for someone in the 90s to make use of while also playing the game.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
+Jason I suppose they would need to print it out, or alt tab into it if they didn't boot to DOS - but I doubt the re-release bothered to advise either action. I first found Dinarzad by asking Ali Chica for directions, he spells it out "plainly" with a string of rights and lefts and go straights and take the second left and left again - would have been more helpful if I wrote it down (or remembered about the included map in the game box) but It got me there after a few attempts. Then all you need do is _simply_ reverse that - or stumble around till you find a plaza before too long. Once you've bought Chica's map, it's a lot easier to reference where you are.
@Nionivek
@Nionivek 6 жыл бұрын
This is why I like how the fan remake allows you to take a hatchet to this and significantly limit the size of this maze.
@elfpvke
@elfpvke 6 жыл бұрын
8:02 "You give him the bird. A puzzled look spreads across Ferrari's face and you realize with horror that he meant the Black Falcon."
@abracadaverous
@abracadaverous 5 жыл бұрын
Are you planning to continue this series? I'm looking forward to the unpacking of Tarna.
@dentstowel4230
@dentstowel4230 Жыл бұрын
Fingers crossed PUR comes back to this series. Would love to see her take on III thru V
@Snacker6
@Snacker6 3 жыл бұрын
Randomly started looking for Quest for Glory videos, since I loved those games (other than this one) as a kid, and found this! Really good video that helped me reveal in my nostalgia a bit. I'm sad that you never got around to 3, since it really seemed like you wanted to talk about that one. Even more sad that there isn't one on 4, as that is by far my favorite one in the series!
@andrewollmann304
@andrewollmann304 6 жыл бұрын
Okay...the Saurus’ name is Roget. Roget the Saurus...Roget’s Thesaurus....*heavy sigh*
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 6 жыл бұрын
The Coles are punmasters. Truth.
@storkravingmadthermian6689
@storkravingmadthermian6689 6 жыл бұрын
"Roget the saurus is at a loss for words" still makes me giggle a bit
@astrosteve
@astrosteve 6 жыл бұрын
Their new game is filled with puns. Nearly everything is punny in some way. It's ridiculous.
@nibblrrr7124
@nibblrrr7124 6 жыл бұрын
SAURUS. THROATUS.
@rogero8443
@rogero8443 6 жыл бұрын
:(
@spawnofmelkor
@spawnofmelkor 4 жыл бұрын
"Next up is Quest For Glory III, which I am dying to talk about."
@WhiteRiceTime
@WhiteRiceTime Жыл бұрын
Still waiting
@wlados22
@wlados22 Жыл бұрын
​@@WhiteRiceTime❤
@synthWizkid
@synthWizkid 10 ай бұрын
5 years now
@Brejan
@Brejan 6 жыл бұрын
I really hope you're going to continue this retrospective. I love classic adventure games and RPGs, and I really appreciate such retrospectives. Keep up your great work!
@strain42
@strain42 6 жыл бұрын
I can not stop laughing, chuckling, guffawing, and giggling at the fact that he is named Roget The Saurus. Awesome video, Roses. The Quest for Glory series is the one I'm probably the least familiar with, so I've been REALLY loving this retrospective on the series. Can't wait for the next one.
@FFL2and3rocks
@FFL2and3rocks 6 жыл бұрын
The desert does loop around, but it's literally 1000 screens long. Someone mentioned you can go to Raseir on foot, but the guards just don't let you in because you don't have the visa.
@B0NATTI
@B0NATTI Жыл бұрын
still hoping to see part 3
@jhornbaker311
@jhornbaker311 6 жыл бұрын
Man, I used to go yardsaling with my uncle in the late '90s/early '00s to find retro games and basically just bought anything that looked old or cool... ended up getting Quest For Glory 1-3 for a few bucks and had a ton of fun playing through them. My uncle was who got me into RPGs when I was in grade school, and we used to love picking up old games and playing them together on our trips. Hard to believe that was like twenty years ago, when I was in high school. He passed away about five years ago from cancer. There are a lot of games I play that remind me of him, but watching these videos has reminded me of our weekends spent together scavenging for games to play or sell on eBay. I remember we played these together for what seemed like eons trying to figure out solutions to puzzles and what-not. Thanks for rekindling awesome memories. I just discovered your channel yesterday from your Hey Dude retrospective being recommended for me, and I'm glad I checked out your other stuff. Keep up the awesome work! :)
@muticere
@muticere 6 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. I completely missed out on the adventure game genre even though I am certain I would have loved it had I known it existed. It's great finding out about all these for the first time.
@lowenergyvideos4658
@lowenergyvideos4658 6 жыл бұрын
Roses: "You topple to the ground and it just cracks me up everytime" *Thud* Me: *snort*
@CharemTheShadox
@CharemTheShadox 4 жыл бұрын
Shame this series died! I just ran into it and I've enjoyed watching you go through these games.
@jessicaable5095
@jessicaable5095 Жыл бұрын
Do do hope we one day get to hear about the next in this series ❤
@thefonzkiss
@thefonzkiss 6 жыл бұрын
Chico and Harpo Marx are in the courtyard markets as well as Groucho being in the game.
@DCLT05
@DCLT05 6 жыл бұрын
Hey PUR, I just wanted to let you know how much I love your channel. I grew up on almost every game you've reviewed. Your perspective takes me back and I look forward to your content. Thanks!
@LauDanielS
@LauDanielS 6 жыл бұрын
This retrospective series is making me want to do a full replay from beginning to end... Its bringing back so many good memories from my childhood, no game series captured my imagination quite like the QFG series did back in the day. Thanks for making these videos.
@Zazzaro703
@Zazzaro703 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Lau give heroines quest on steam a shot. You'll love it and it will be a brand new experience. It's basically QFG6. It's got an 87% score from 1000 reviews and it's free. store.steampowered.com/app/283880/Heroines_Quest_The_Herald_of_Ragnarok/
@LauDanielS
@LauDanielS 6 жыл бұрын
I just installed the Quest for Glory collection on Steam, but I will definitely check it out.
@LauDanielS
@LauDanielS 6 жыл бұрын
Wow dude, you weren't kidding. The screenshots make it look like the vga graphics sequel we never got. Installed! I am definitely doing a full replay now, saving Heroine's Quest for last.
@Zazzaro703
@Zazzaro703 6 жыл бұрын
Daniel Lau I mean it def differs a little bit and has a cold and hunger meter than can be a pain at the start but they can be turned off if causing too much trouble. They also have a game called A Tale of Two Kingdoms which is more like Kings Quest. Both games are great and while vary a little bit have come closest to recreating that magic I felt as I kid playing the original Sierra Quest games.
@Zazzaro703
@Zazzaro703 6 жыл бұрын
Scotty St Cloud Heroines Quest really is a great game. This just reminded me about this retro and where the 3rd part is lol. QFG3 was always my least fav one so not surprising if Roses pushed it to the backburner when there are so many great old and new games.
@jasonlavers1966
@jasonlavers1966 6 жыл бұрын
Love your videos; in fact, I loved them so much I got back into playing adventure games and I am now 51 Years old. I played all the Old Sierra games as well as Lucas Arts and now I am replaying them because of you. Thank you so much and keep it up
@JeremazingShots
@JeremazingShots Жыл бұрын
Is there a Part 3? I know I'm 4 years late....but I can't find a part 3......I NEED IT.
@derricks1106
@derricks1106 6 жыл бұрын
I loved the first two retrospectives! When are we getting the third?
@lasergrilleddturkey4064
@lasergrilleddturkey4064 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos are awesome and I really hope you'll continue this series! I'd love to hear your thoughts on the rest of the QFG series!
@LinXGUA
@LinXGUA 6 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised you didn't talk about the food. Maybe it's a remake thing. On man, the descriptions of the meals always made my mouth water! Great review!
@paulchapman8023
@paulchapman8023 6 жыл бұрын
LinXGUA it’s not just a remake thing; the description of Shema’s cooking is just as mouth-watering in the original version.
@JStryker47
@JStryker47 5 жыл бұрын
@@paulchapman8023 Yeah, way better than the slop that gets thrown together at the Silmaria inn. Dumb gnomes...
@C0wb0yBebop
@C0wb0yBebop 5 жыл бұрын
Yesssss!!! So glad you did Quest for Glory! You’ve become the Sierra Girl with your love of the company playing all the Quest games. This game was wonderful- I know it’s wayyy more frustrating then Quest for Glory I in Spielberg but this was a whole new level of difficulty.
@lyinar
@lyinar Жыл бұрын
Quest for Glory is the series that made me a gamer. I would love to see your thoughts on III through V... and the spiritual successor that the Coles made called "Hero-U: Rogue to Redemption". II was my least favorite as well, partially because my introduction to the series was the VGA remake version of the first game, so it felt weird having to adjust. I have to say IV is my favorite, though, just because of the voice acting and John Rhys-Davies's amazing narration. V... Gods, I wish that had actually been *finished*. Sure, it got released, but it very clearly wasn't actually fully done. I like its ambition, but it could have been so much better.
@Zazzaro703
@Zazzaro703 6 жыл бұрын
I actually love this game, I found it underneath the Christmas tree one year DAYS after Christmas. It got buried under some stuff and was still wrapped from Santa. I like AGD remake of it as well. The remake makes it so the whole series can be played point and click but also has an option for the parser I think. The next time you do a series playthrough, since you don't like 2 try the remake. You can still import your hero into and out of the game. The thing I really dislike is having to just kill time in Rasier resting for the first 3 days to get to the plot stuff at night. I always went for the Paladin route but would have enough Magic to do the WIT trial. For some reason I've also always really liked the music right at the end when you start to break into the palace. One of my favorite video game songs of all time. It's the music you have playing at 10:34. It just fits the urgency of what's going on and I was young so it just made it all "epic". (Edit: ah you touched on that musical piece right at the end of the video too). I hope you review Heroines Quest after QFG5 since it's pretty much QFG6. It's on steam and easily as good as QFG4. It's Norse mythology and it could have been released in 1994 with the Sierra label and you'd never know the difference. The Coles have endorsed it as well. Thanks for all the stuff on your channel it's brought me many hours of entertainment throughout the years. I was actually binge watching videos I've already seen from you earlier this week.
@tc8274
@tc8274 3 жыл бұрын
That was great ! Fingers crossed we see the rest of the series !
@thefonzkiss
@thefonzkiss 6 жыл бұрын
No mention of the WIT section for magic users, it’s another section like the Mages Mage in the first game for that character class.
@JustPlayingTheClassics
@JustPlayingTheClassics 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the highlights of this game for sure! It's awesome.
@patriktschenett
@patriktschenett 6 жыл бұрын
I replayed all of the Quest for Glory games a couple of months ago and QfG2 is still my favorite game in the series. I love the setting, the style, the story, and the characters. You make a lot of really good points (as usual) but for me the good outweigh the bad.
@SmileyGamer13
@SmileyGamer13 6 жыл бұрын
I love the editing you do to your videos
@brycevo
@brycevo 6 жыл бұрын
7:18 Is that a Grim Fandango? Yes, it takes two to Tango. This channel is Juicy as a Mango, As we reminece on this Grim Fandango.
@fermintenava5911
@fermintenava5911 6 жыл бұрын
When Roses does Poetry Slam It's adding a large dose of ham. Some wit and some charm and likable narm together deliver a wham.
@dbstewart86
@dbstewart86 6 жыл бұрын
I do chuckle at how pleased she looks with herself at 7:33
@AtomicGoober
@AtomicGoober 6 жыл бұрын
How could I not share this! This is Clem Fandango: @kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp-lgZKOab-rY6s
@zeevorourke6876
@zeevorourke6876 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I really enjoyed revisiting this (actually never finished 2) really looking forward to 3
@harmonicajay91
@harmonicajay91 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, it's been a while... Will Part 3 ever be made or has the retrospective been cancelled?
@isaacosterhoudt3256
@isaacosterhoudt3256 3 жыл бұрын
I know this is probably going to fall on deaf ears, but I miss PUR dos reviews. I wish #3 would come out...
@BadLamprey
@BadLamprey 6 жыл бұрын
This one always used to be my favorite. I feel like the tighter schedule gave it more of a sense of reality, whereas in Spielburg everything stays exactly as it is forever unless you poke it. Here, people got agendas! Also got to take issue with the idea that the thief has nothing to do here since the thief never gets it this good again! You've got break-in houses, the whole blackbird plot and your own unique way of reaching to the final battle that's totally different than how the other classes get there.
@kenny3217
@kenny3217 6 жыл бұрын
The trick is to go into the desert first and kill something so you have money to buy the map without having to blindly wander the streets looking for the money changer. When I am doing a QFG 1-4 (screw 5) playthrough I use all the spare time in QFG2 to work on skills, especially combat skills with Uhura.
@jeffm5056
@jeffm5056 6 жыл бұрын
Loved your reviews back in the Channel Awesome days, and I’m glad to see you’re still at it. This was one of the Sierra games I never got around to playing, but I loved playing them on my 286.
@callaeris
@callaeris 5 жыл бұрын
Pleeeease finish this series. I love these games, and your adventure game videos! Thanks.
@Cannotbetamed1
@Cannotbetamed1 6 жыл бұрын
Huh, I must have blocked the memory of the mazelike streets, I just remembered the fast travel. I do remember the desert being frustrating though. And getting stuck at the end because I had to ask about some wizard who had only been mentioned once but I didn’t remember his name at all. Awesome video :)
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
SPEAK NOW THE NAME OF POWER!
@MasterZebulin
@MasterZebulin 5 жыл бұрын
@@MagusMarquillin Uuuuhh.... Open Sesame??
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 5 жыл бұрын
@@MasterZebulin
@Soulsphere001
@Soulsphere001 3 жыл бұрын
@@MagusMarquillin Suleiman!
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 3 жыл бұрын
@@Soulsphere001 Uh, I can't remember if that's the correct spelling but... __
@Selrahcbal
@Selrahcbal 3 жыл бұрын
I just started watching this series and was looking forward to watching it through to the end as I'm enjoy your videos. Hopefully you get to complete the series.
@thefonzkiss
@thefonzkiss 6 жыл бұрын
If you have the x ray specs you can see the woman fro the harem getting changed. Somewhat.
@matheah.3588
@matheah.3588 5 жыл бұрын
That poem seriously knocked me off my seat - and I was lying down!
@igobyplane
@igobyplane 6 жыл бұрын
this was my fave. played them in order of 3-2-1-4-5, 5 like 20 years later. i did each class, but most fun was thief you gave magic skills to, as you got to be a member to 2 of the 3 guilds !
@ObiWanBillKenobi
@ObiWanBillKenobi 5 жыл бұрын
Not counting Zelda 1 and Zelda 2, this game was my first experience in any kind of role playing game, either computer or paper. I was wild about it when I discovered how much this imitated a character’s life and adventure as the game, even down to knowledge gathering, skill building, food, water, and sleeping! When I started paper RPGs a few years later, I always made sure I announced that I was carrying 5 rocks in my inventory, just in case I had to throw them at anything as an attack, distraction, chasm depth check, etc. 🗡😎
@PsychedelicCharm
@PsychedelicCharm 6 жыл бұрын
Roses, please upload that Wages of War video. It's been five months already.
@Bored_Barbarian
@Bored_Barbarian 4 ай бұрын
5 years later….
@Actual_Mr_G
@Actual_Mr_G 6 жыл бұрын
That poem ?? Sublime. That zoom on your hand ?? Exquisite!! Also, your purring killed me.
@TheSwiftFalcon
@TheSwiftFalcon 6 жыл бұрын
Trial By Fire on the Amiga was my introduction to the QFG series, and it remains my favorite. I can easily see why one might feel differently, but to me, it was the game world in which I got the most immersed. I think the NPC schedules and daily routine helped a lot with this. Navigating the maze was not a problem, as I had the hardcopy map which came with the game, and downtime between timed events I just filled with exploration, conversation or combat. Perhaps I am somewhat biased due to the impact the game made when I first played it. At the time, this was the first game I had played which offered this mix of RPG and Sierra-style adventure. It was also the first adventure game I played where puzzles had more than one solution. Thank you for these videos, I enjoy watching them, especially as you are playing the thief character, which I didn't play myself. I was actually unaware of the bird statue thing, but now I understand the reference to the "Raven" in the Cole's new game, Hero-U. Did you figure out where you could use the X-Ray glasses?
@Furore2323
@Furore2323 6 жыл бұрын
Just: your videos are great. I never experienced any of the games you cover but it's wonderful to get a glimpse into this world. Also, your on-camera style is to die for, and I am mad jealous.
@DrWhoStrange
@DrWhoStrange 5 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite games as a kid, but I hadn't played the original so this was my entry to the series. I still plan to go through each of these games in the series with a character. Found an MT-32 emulator too, so that audio option you could never choose is suddenly available. I was going to scoff a little about the start of the game comments and finding things, but then I remembered how many times I'd restarted because I hadn't found the necessary locations in time. One of my favourite moments was finding the residential house you can break into as a thief with magic. This meant he was inept at both skills. I was making so much noise trying to sneak, so I decided to use "fetch" to retrieve the dinner service. I was promptly skewered to the wall by flying cutlery.
@EwanMakeMovies
@EwanMakeMovies 6 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video. Trial by fire can be a real pain in the butt at times. Keep up the good work!
@EwanCooey
@EwanCooey 5 ай бұрын
Just found this and the first one today. Wish there had been a QG3 retrospective... I loved these games as a child.
@Domarius64
@Domarius64 5 жыл бұрын
Darn, I guess you never got round to QFG3 Wages of War? I was looking forward to the shade you were alluding to be throwing at it...
@jsimmen1
@jsimmen1 4 жыл бұрын
Really good review. I also played the thief, but always maxed out the magician stats and did those quests as well. I was really young but I vaguely remember being able to quasi cheat by putting a weight on one of the keys with a "cast" command until I ran out of manna and then repeating.
@daekry
@daekry 2 ай бұрын
These first two videos are so good! Looks like you stopped after 2, but if you even decide to look at the rest of the games in this series, I'll definitely be watching!
@TheDomdabomb
@TheDomdabomb 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you roses for all the great videos over the years :) x
@dariusreidace6663
@dariusreidace6663 4 жыл бұрын
I know PUR doesn't really do video gsme related content anymore, but I was really hoping that she'd finish the Quest for Glory series. Aw well.
@sierrakobold6896
@sierrakobold6896 6 жыл бұрын
Also just want to add I had asked Corey Cole once why was Trial by fire done with EGA graphics & w/ text parser for a game coming out in the fall of '90, the same time as KQ5 and 2 other VGA Sierra games, he had told me that Ken had basically said if any one wants to make a game for the '90 holiday season let me know but its gonna be EGA and I guess they grabbed at the chance. So I don't know if maybe their development time was more rushed than usual given the opportunity? didn't think to ask him that
@pikaporeon
@pikaporeon 6 жыл бұрын
This is my favourite in the series... and honestly, its not like anything you said is untrue and that's part of the beauty of the series, really - different experiences for everyone. And honestly it wasn't my favourite at first, but it's my favourite after going through everything in the series dozens of times when i know everything in every game like the back of my hand so it's really easy for me to overlook your complaints. Love your videos, thank you for showing off my favourite PC game.
@danielmccurdy862
@danielmccurdy862 3 жыл бұрын
QG2 was my introduction to Quest for Glory, and is hands down my favorite Sierra Game of all time, largely due to nostalgia from a time when it was one of the only games we had and so I played it into the GROUND. The maze could get irritating, to be sure, but that just felt like a representation of the city... like, this isn't a small town, it's a metropolis, and if you just walk off without a plan, you can totally get lost. I was bummed to see you haven't continued the series, I hope you get back on it!
@ObiWanBillKenobi
@ObiWanBillKenobi 6 жыл бұрын
This was my favorite 16-color game that Sierra ever, ever made!! The parser was the most advanced they ever did. Want to sneak? Just type it! Want to save the game? Just type it! Want to bargain the price of saurus jerky snacks? Just type it! Josh Mandel recently said that going to a mouse-icon interface took away all the imaginativeness of playing adventure games, and I say it's obvious that no series suffered for that more that QFG. Example: Does the hand icon on the tree mean hug tree, pick fruit, pick leaves, get bark, push, pull, push over, uproot, pull off a branch, search, or climb? Not counting Zelda 1 and Zelda 2 for the NES, QFG2 was my first RPG game ever. I only discovered paper RPGs a few years later, and when I began playing them, playing QFG2 reminded me to always carry 5 small rocks with me at all times, in case I needed to use them as hammers, counterweights, throwing weapons, distraction noisemakers, or chasm depth checkers! I have a big love of desert settings for stories. It may have started with Star Wars Episode IV, but I think it really started with this game, QFG2. Whether it's Tatooine, Jakku, Arrakis, Shapeir, Raseir, the desert in KQ5, Calormen in the Narnia books, or the desert in "The Blue Sword," I love thinking of driving to the nearest real-life sand dunes and pretending all of it.--Arrakis. Dune. Desert planet. Oh, and watch out for those Fremen when you're grinding in the Shapeir desert. Uh, I mean, bandits.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
Preach that Parser Profundity brotha! :^D At least AGDI's remake let's you keep the parser so far as conversations go, which I found to be the best accomplishment of Sierra's parser system, but it's still going to simplify situations like you described with the tree - even if many of those responses weren't recognized, at least you got to try it and individualize your play-style. Verbs: I want them all.
@Davlavi
@Davlavi 6 жыл бұрын
What did you think about the fan remake? will you do a review?
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 6 жыл бұрын
The AGDI version is great and addresses a lot of the issues. I probably won't do a full review, at least not for this series. This will be focusing on the original five Quest for Glory games by Sierra.
@messire9837
@messire9837 6 жыл бұрын
Ah! Can't wait any longer for number 3, then. The best of the lot, sayeth meine meinung... And then the "Conquests" Diptych, hopefully! That one Sierra game that wooed me. And the three widow's stooges have nothing to do with it... NB: With all due respect for your work, Number 3 has nothing to do with Egypt, really, it's more about Summerian mythology and all. It makes a lot of sense. And Zigguraths! And centaur lions!
@Awakeandalive1
@Awakeandalive1 6 жыл бұрын
As a professor of Religious Studies...nah. Wages of War is mainly about West/Central African mythology. Sumerian stuff doesn't really feature, and the Egypt bit is TINY. But I agree -- my two favorite entries were Wages of War & Shadows of Darkness.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
Awakeandalive1 Tiny? Sekmet and Anubis rock your world pretty hard. Maybe Sekmet would be more violent? The Flavor is there, if not anyway near as deep as Egyptology. I'm curious what negatives Roses has to say about it though.
@elfpvke
@elfpvke 6 жыл бұрын
Pizza Elemental. Nuff said.
@EKR640
@EKR640 6 жыл бұрын
These quest for glory videos are great! keep them coming!
@kurona1248
@kurona1248 6 жыл бұрын
Finally! I was really looking foward to see your Trial By Fire retrospective
@MichaelGMunz
@MichaelGMunz 4 жыл бұрын
I played and replayed Trial By Fire many, many times while waiting for Wages of War to come out. I am only just now learning the "home" trick with the saurus!!
@brandondawson3782
@brandondawson3782 4 жыл бұрын
This was one of my fav series growing up. I found QFG2 in a bargin bin for about 10 or 15 dollars. It was on 5 1/4 inch disks.
@Disthron
@Disthron 4 жыл бұрын
Still hanging out for that QfG3 Retrospective.
@Never_heart
@Never_heart 3 жыл бұрын
2 years later... still waiting for the 3rd game, but I also love the J B Fletcher love in Roses' new videos so it balances out
@BeerAndWarcraft
@BeerAndWarcraft 2 жыл бұрын
QFG 2 was one of my favourite games of all time!
@Corehaven22
@Corehaven22 6 жыл бұрын
Yep as a kid I absolutely loved the first Quest for Glory and it's still maybe my favorite adventure game from that time next to Monkey Island 2. But with Trial by Fire, yea, the maze kills it for me. Every time. Strange to make the sequel into what amounts to a mazey type game. That wasn't Quest for Glory to me. And for that matter, there never was a sequel I liked as much as that first game.
@ToniBingi
@ToniBingi 5 жыл бұрын
so... when were you planning on doing part 3? or did it get taken down or something?
@azzajohnson2123
@azzajohnson2123 5 жыл бұрын
Anton B. Ingibjartsson another dropped ball in the sea of KZbin earning.
@ToniBingi
@ToniBingi 5 жыл бұрын
@@azzajohnson2123 meaning what? Srsly i cannot make heads or tails of that statement.
@DieWeltIstSchlecht
@DieWeltIstSchlecht Жыл бұрын
You can't leave me hanging now!! Where is part 3?? It was so nice watching these two videos, I want more... :)
@BachiloDmitry
@BachiloDmitry 6 жыл бұрын
"A whole new woooorld" cracked me in half.
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 6 жыл бұрын
Oh no
@BachiloDmitry
@BachiloDmitry 6 жыл бұрын
No, Sarah, that actually felt good! :-) Keep doing that from time to time!
@plixplux
@plixplux Жыл бұрын
Wait, there never was a part 3?
@AP-eq6fv
@AP-eq6fv 8 ай бұрын
any update on part 3?? i love your content
@cidrain
@cidrain 6 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know the money changer acted as a thieves guild until I replayed this as an adult. Blew my mind!
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 6 жыл бұрын
It's not really supposed to be a thieves guild, not in any official capacity. It's SOMETHING, but the game more relies on talking to specific characters for your thief questions. Money changer is one because she IS a thief, and Ferrari is the other because I believe he is the chief thief in the game. If anything, the Blue Parrot Inn is more representative as a thieves guild than the money changer. Typically, the thieves guild has a lot more going on and plays a bigger role in the story and puzzles for that class. The fact that you didn't even know it COULD be a thieves guild until much later kind of says something.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
I think something similar happened to me the first time, I didn't try the thief sign on her until the day before going to Rasier and had no time to do the Thief missions. Other then her being a bit "risque", does she (or any other character) give any indication she might be a lawbreaker? I mean it is kind of daring and counter intuitive to announce you're a thief to a "bank manager" of sorts.
@cidrain
@cidrain 6 жыл бұрын
She hints at it if asked the right things (though very vaguely). I believe it's something about her associating with undesirables (or a similar expression). Again, very vague and I never knew about any thief missions in Shapeir until I was an adult.
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, sounds familiar. (In fact I checked and she drops multiple hints when talking about normal topics) I think that's enough to blame myself for not being savvy enough to notice, rather then blame the game too much. But it'd be better if another more disreputable character could tell you (Honest Ali Fakir does this in the remake, but not the original. Everyone else in Shapier seems to honorable.).
@ItsSoDane
@ItsSoDane 6 жыл бұрын
You have a max plush too! Sweet. I've had mine for about a year now and It is very well made.
@Katosepe
@Katosepe 6 жыл бұрын
Loved this video! My buddy's been telling me sarcastically to play QfG2 and how fantastic the maze is. Guess now I know why! Can't wait for your third one.
@sparkledreamer
@sparkledreamer 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this retrospective! I love the QfG series :) I really recommend giving the 2008 AGD remake of Trial by Fire a go. It's really well done and addresses a lot of the issues you bring up here.
@avenasia
@avenasia 6 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the magic glasses you can buy from that one guy who floats on a cloud or something. Wearing them when you save the slave girl gives you quite a show. . .though you won't get to be a paladin. . .and being a paladin is awesome in the fourth game cause you can save the Rusulka. . .I played the crap out of these games as a kid (still have them) and still think I haven't found everything in QFG3. . .of course that game was a little buggy, but not nearly as buggy as QFQ4, which is shame cause I love QFQ4.
@alexgreen4112
@alexgreen4112 6 жыл бұрын
I love this review series Hope the third one is coming out soon Got my notifications on❤️🌹
@madquest8
@madquest8 6 жыл бұрын
Love the lipstick! Great to see another fantastic review! :) Can't wait for the next one!
@Uejji
@Uejji 6 жыл бұрын
Many of the places in town you can simply ask for directions to. That's how I always made my way around. For instance, Ali Chica will tell you which turns to make to reach the Money Changer.
@ljp1942
@ljp1942 6 жыл бұрын
This game came on 8 3.5 inch floppy disks for the Amiga 500.
@GloryQuestor
@GloryQuestor 6 жыл бұрын
Even with the rough spots, I still like this one, as I like every single QFG. The maze was never a problem once the map is available, so it never bothered me much. The elemental puzzle was a fun one to figure out, the class-based sidequests (while a bit lacking) still had some great variety at least, and it was always a fun one to replay through. Based on the stories you told, I can see why there were many shortcomings and some lack of content with this one, and why Wages of War was made to try and make up for it.
@littleterr0r
@littleterr0r 6 жыл бұрын
Oh, I completely agree with you. I played this as a kid after the first game and got lost and frustrated and never played it all the way through despite beating the first one many, many times.
@CatsRul85
@CatsRul85 5 жыл бұрын
rewatching these. Will you ever do the rest of them?
@fretzil
@fretzil 6 жыл бұрын
This was the first Quest for Glory I played, I got the VGA version on a free disc that comes with a gaming magazine that I was subscribed to. Going back, its not great but it did get me hooked on adventure games.
@TomSFox
@TomSFox 6 жыл бұрын
Fun fact: You can walk all the way to Rasier.
@oppie47
@oppie47 6 жыл бұрын
LOL - yeah, normally having a super fast Pentium computer was a bane for these early Sierra games, but in QG2 it actually paid off.
@pushinguproses
@pushinguproses 6 жыл бұрын
What???? you CAN? I want to try this immediately.
@oppie47
@oppie47 6 жыл бұрын
PushingUpRoses Yeah! From the Shapier overlook, go straight south until you hit the southern cliffs. From there, go west several hundred screens. Eventually, you reach the Raseir overlook. It helps to crank up the animation speed so that you walk faster than monsters can spawn or you get thirsty.
@seangleeson8073
@seangleeson8073 6 жыл бұрын
I AM IN SHOCK RIGHT NOW AND MUST TRY THIS AS SOON AS POSSIBLE!!!!
@MagusMarquillin
@MagusMarquillin 6 жыл бұрын
I heard the guards turn you away at the gate though don't they? It must be a little disappointing - while cool they established all that space in _sand._
@weaver7811
@weaver7811 5 ай бұрын
No videos for the rest? =(
@Naythanable
@Naythanable 6 жыл бұрын
Of all the old adventure games out there. Quest for Glory is one I want to go back and play instead of watching a commentary-less play through, and your videos are only feeding this(despite all the down sides pointed out in this title :p). Excellent video as always and thanks for sharing! :)
@Arrowdodger
@Arrowdodger 6 жыл бұрын
Robert Smith is the hero we can all believe in.
@FredGee420
@FredGee420 6 жыл бұрын
But is he the one we need, or the one we deserve?
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