Pylos - History of the City of Nestor (1600-1180 BC)

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@taybak8446
@taybak8446 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! I did not know that Nestor's descendants continued on as Athenian nobility. Thanks for all this great information.
@joshjacob1530
@joshjacob1530 Жыл бұрын
damn so my ancesor literally like created democracy and shieet. We wuz republicans.
@mercianthane2503
@mercianthane2503 3 жыл бұрын
Mycenaean story is always welcome and appreciated. Bronze age Greece is full mysteries.
@muffin6369
@muffin6369 4 ай бұрын
Hey Peeps I watch "In Search of The Trojan War" presented by the GREAT GREAT GREAT Michael Wood. He also did "In the Footsteps of Alexander the Great." I just watched another awesome doc Lost Cities of The Ancients 3 series one on of course those crazy Labarna (King) of the Hittites, and one on Lost City of Ramesees II about Pi-Ramesses. That one was with the great archaeologist Mnfred Biatok.
@Jippa_33
@Jippa_33 2 жыл бұрын
Wanax has some of the most informative videos on Ancient Greece on KZbin.
@WanaxTV
@WanaxTV 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate it! 💯
@ivacho9428
@ivacho9428 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this channel!! I'm trying to write a novel set in the Mycenaean era and your content helps a lot. Greetins from Argentina
@WanaxTV
@WanaxTV 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the feedback! You are always welcome to reach out at wanaxtv@gmail.com
@muffin6369
@muffin6369 4 ай бұрын
Love World of Antiquity with Dr, Miano!!!! I love it when he blasts Graham Hancock.
@PathsUnwritten
@PathsUnwritten 3 жыл бұрын
I visited the Palace of Nestor last week. It's a significant distance from the modern city of Pylos, where the ancient city would have presumably been. This seems a little odd considering most other Mycenaean cities had their palaces in walled acropoli at the heart of the city.
@talyn3932
@talyn3932 3 жыл бұрын
Pylos was ancient, its possible it was built before they adopted that convention?
@uselesscoffeemachine
@uselesscoffeemachine 2 жыл бұрын
Pylos was not in any danger before the Dorians and Sea Peoples, so the palace did not have to be in a location where it could be defended, but its odd from the administrative perspective.
@Alusnovalotus
@Alusnovalotus 2 жыл бұрын
Seems Mycenaean culture didn’t have that strong an impact on this region like it did in the east. From what I’ve read, they seem to have copied Minoan Crete more. Especially now that we know they copied the Minoan alphabet, sea faring trade and that there was much more literary evidence at Pylos than anywhere else in mainland Greece.
@Salonicasoccerbattle
@Salonicasoccerbattle 2 жыл бұрын
The ancient city was near the palace,the site was abandoned after the palaces ruined in 1180BC. Modern city was inhabited later. Mykenai also was abandoned after the destruction of the city around the same time.
@douglaskingsman2565
@douglaskingsman2565 2 жыл бұрын
I don't follow. Pylos probably had an akropolis with a palace. Just because modern Pylos was built further away means nothing. Ancient Mycenae is distinct from the current village of Mykenai too.
@NovaSeven
@NovaSeven 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this video, but there are a couple small mistakes on the map (2:36): the (modern) settlement near Pylos is called “Iklaina” not “Iklania.” Also, Pylos (“Palace of Nestor”) is about 2.5 miles NW of Iklaina, but on the map it is located to the SW at the coastal site that Iron Age Greeks called Cape Coryphasium [Koryphasion] (see Thucydides 4.3), which lies across the bay from the modern city called Pilos (Navarino).
@Bogey1022
@Bogey1022 3 жыл бұрын
Sandy Pylos.... Somewhere scrawled into the plaster "Telemachus was here"
@jonhstonk7998
@jonhstonk7998 3 жыл бұрын
i love the bronze age! i never knew about pylos tho i want to know more about other polis too!!
@thodorisx8875
@thodorisx8875 3 жыл бұрын
Make a video about the history of arcadia!we waiting...
@veronicalogotheti5416
@veronicalogotheti5416 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ΠαναγιώτηςΖώης-ι6ψ
@ΠαναγιώτηςΖώης-ι6ψ 2 жыл бұрын
Love from Athens to all who read ancient history...
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 Жыл бұрын
What did I use to reconstruct the battle?
@EstateCareMV
@EstateCareMV 3 жыл бұрын
Hope to see more Sparta videos soon! Great work.
@douglaskingsman2565
@douglaskingsman2565 2 жыл бұрын
Sparta is so overdone. It was not important as a city-state in the Mycenaean Age. Lakonia itself was the real home of Tynareos and Menelaos.
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 Жыл бұрын
This is very cooool chanal about ancient greece! Hi from russia! I am to interested by Mycennaenan civilization))))
@Alusnovalotus
@Alusnovalotus 6 ай бұрын
6:42 I think that's a bit of a stretch with 50,000 -120,000 inhabitants, considering the arable land around it, the technology in sewage systems and fresh water resources there. Wouldn't older centers be even more populated than Pylos at this time? Babylon barely Passed 70,000 inhabitants and it stood a millenium before Pylos at the time.
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 Жыл бұрын
how to contact you?
@jarlnils435
@jarlnils435 3 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the ruler of Theben not Mykene, the one, who was called Brother by the great king of Hatti?
@ΓιώργοςΑφθονίδης
@ΓιώργοςΑφθονίδης 6 ай бұрын
There are some mistakes in the map : Northern Thessaly (Magoula near modern Makryhori village), parts of Makedonia (excavations have been made in Mount Olymbos and script in Linear B in Western Makedonia) and North-eastern Aegean island of Lesvos (as well as Cyprus) where also parts of the Mycenean world. There aren't many excavations in Makedonia, but there are some evidences.
@muffin6369
@muffin6369 4 ай бұрын
I have fav videographers that put out better history and archaeology than ANY history channel. Here's a few.....Pete Kelly he has 2 pete kelly and history Time. He writes, produces all of it. All of these guys do it all. History with Cy, Get factual, Fall of Civilizations Paul Cooper there a ton of them and having grown up listening to the old Schweppes commercials with Alexander Scourby!!!! I got hooked on voices and presentations.
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 Жыл бұрын
I am subscrubed)
@douglaskingsman2565
@douglaskingsman2565 2 жыл бұрын
The "blink" of collapse??
@secularstones
@secularstones 3 жыл бұрын
Consider this progression: Pylos -> Peleset -> Philistine Could it be that the Peleset who attacked Egypt at the close of the bronze age were in fact the people of Pylos?
@talyn3932
@talyn3932 3 жыл бұрын
I think they are pretty sure that the Peleset were from Crete. Pele was a common sound in a lot of people in the region, Peleponese, Pelasgian, etc... Cool idea though!
@noble3784
@noble3784 Ай бұрын
interesting. I had thought that Peleset may have come from Peleus, father of Achilles, thus the Myrmidons? But if the P-L-S sequence was found throughout Greece, perhaps it may have root in the Pelasgians. The Myrmidons were Pelasgian or part Pelasgian. Also the culture of Pylos seems different from the rest of the Achaeans insofar as they seem less warlike. No walls? More focused on trade. Perhaps they are more related to the Pre-Indo European Pelasgians and Cretans than the Achaeans. PLS, Pylos, Peleus, Peleset, Philistine.
@secularstones
@secularstones Ай бұрын
@@noble3784 very interesting
@henkstersmacro-world
@henkstersmacro-world 2 жыл бұрын
👍👍👍
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111
@LuciusQuinctiusCincinnatus111 Жыл бұрын
I made a diagram of the Mycenaean society and I am writing a Wikipedia article about the Mycenaean civilization
@Salonicasoccerbattle
@Salonicasoccerbattle 2 жыл бұрын
I love this kind of videos but there are many mistakes in this one. For example the griffin warrior grave was not a tholos. And it is dated ca 1450 BC.
@alexanderguesthistorical7842
@alexanderguesthistorical7842 8 ай бұрын
My thoughts are; Pelasgians=descendants of the neolithic people. The name coming from Pylos. Peleset ('Sea Peoples') = those from the kingdom of Pylos.
@muffin6369
@muffin6369 4 ай бұрын
The Real Big Wanax here Michael Ventries/John Chadwick deciphered Linear B. Linear A STILL no such luck.
@diktatoralexander88
@diktatoralexander88 7 ай бұрын
*P I Y A M A R A D U*
@hanswi336
@hanswi336 Жыл бұрын
Why are you singing in all your videos ??
@manfredfruhauf3557
@manfredfruhauf3557 Жыл бұрын
What is your mother-tongue?
@douglaskingsman2565
@douglaskingsman2565 2 жыл бұрын
Never 120k people!
@viorelpiscanu9425
@viorelpiscanu9425 9 ай бұрын
Is more fiction than reality thanks to that existiting(!?) Homer(s).... Myths are so much loved by humans ../
@JimmyTheGreek2000
@JimmyTheGreek2000 7 ай бұрын
Not pielos! It is Pylos or Pilos !
@hessgdesd
@hessgdesd Жыл бұрын
thank you
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