Phaistos - History of the second largest Minoan City (4000-1200 BC)

[@WanaxTV]

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[@HistorywithCy]

Beautiful! I've always wanted to visit this site...actually all of the major Minoan sites! Keep up the GREAT work!

[@WanaxTV]

Appreciate it my friend. There will be more Minoan content coming very soon!

[@killcounter1587]

I'm amazed on the fact that my civilization is that old😳

[@mercianthane2503]

More Minoan lore is always a welcome delight

[@WanaxTV]

You will probably like the next one even more! Coming very soon

[@ravensthatflywiththenightm7319]

I'm excited already! 🧿🧿

[@37Dionysos]

There's a very wide deep pit in the central court at Phaestos. It's full of tourists' hats and sunglasses.

[@danonck]

I'm happy to watch this after visiting the site last week! Thank you.

[@Rithymna]

Congratulations Wanax TV! Great presentation as always!

[@shaolindreams]

Great video brother

[@ecurewitz]

Excellent work, thank you

[@taybak8446]

This was a very detailed quality video. I think you are a PhD or a professor. I learned a lot about Phaistos 1. Do you think the Phaistos disk is real or fake? 2. I'd love your video about whether the cave on Mt. Ida or the cave on Mt. Dikti was the real birthplace of Zeus. I'd also love a video on the Bronze Age palace complex of Jason's Iolcus and Achilies' Myrmidon. Thank you.

[@WanaxTV]

Thanks! I've done a video concerning Mt. Dikti - it was about the Minoan site of Karphi. Check it out! kzbin.info/www/bejne/g2fLi4VnnLirqKssi=DF2XzcSiuz9tx5NJ Video on Iolkos would be a good idea.

[@taybak8446]

@@WanaxTV oh great. Thanks!

[@janeslater8004]

Id like to know about the phaistos disc too. Whether real or fake? Why are some saying its fake. The hymn to aten. Eyptian atenakheten wrote was written in similar way to phaistos disk. The symbols on it.

[@panagiotis7946]

@@janeslater8004 The disc of Phaistos The disc was found by the Italian archaeologist Luigi Pernier during of the archaeological excavations of Phaistos in 1908. The author states that the record was made by Luigi Pernier's finder. Motivation Why did Pernier come up with this trick? His colleague, the Italian archaeologist Federico Halbherr in 1884 began the excavations in Gortyna alongside the excavations of other Italian archaeologists in the area of ​​Messara. Halbherr found many objects with written texts in the ancient Greek language dating back to the early 5th century BC. The most important find, the famous inscriptions of Gortyna, found on the walls of the ancient city are the first written laws of Europe. Pernier was working with another excavation team at Phaistos. Until the beginning of the 19th century they probably had not found any important object. It was at the same time that Arthur Evans began the excavations of Knossos. Evans had many finds of Minoan scripts, Linear A and B. Expectations were high for everyone that Pernier would also find Minoan scripts. But nothing of the kind was found. What would Luigi Pernier do? What does he have to discover to gain enough credit and fame to compete with Evans and Federico Halbherr? THE Luigi Pernier found the answer quickly: A relic of the past with an undeciphered hieroglyphic text, the Phaistos Disc! Pernier was an Italian archaeologist. During his education in Italy he had certainly learned what in the 1890s was the subject of great debate: the Magliano Disko found in the late 1880s. The text is in the Etruscan language which had not been deciphered until then. The Phaisto disc and the Magliano disc are the only discs of this type ever found in the world! The technique is completely identical. Roughly circular, with the text in Etruscan to swirl inwards. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Bleiplatte_von_Magliano.jpg

[@sugarnads]

There is no doubt about the phaistos disc being real. Anyo e who thinks it is fake is accusing proper archaeologists of flat out lying in the dig reports and day books.

[@Clemeaux_]

thanks for such awesome vids!

[@user-zadeu2makarites]

You made me a surprise just the next day after my birthday😁

[@WanaxTV]

Happy birthday!

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@@WanaxTV Thank you😊

[@mattmatty4670]

Cool thanks mate

[@azwris]

Zakros mountain exists in Iran under the name Zagros.

[@giorgosmassaros5572]

Evry where Greeks....

[@azwris]

@@giorgosmassaros5572 😁

[@panagiotis7946]

he name Zaros is medieval from 1550 the ancient name is Gortina

[@azwris]

​@@panagiotis7946 Gortina is in Irakleio prefecture. I'm talking about the Minoan Palace of Zakros. In Siteia. And the mountains around the area.

[@37Dionysos]

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[@Leptospirosi]

One correction: the explosion of Thera happened around 1503BC, not 1600, as is clearly recorded by the Egyptians during the reign of Queen Hapsetsut

[@WanaxTV]

I'm aware of the 1500 BC timeline for dating when it comes to Thera. I just went by the radiocarbon dating which placed it at 1600. Probably should've mentioned both. But thanks for noticing.

[@krzysztofzobek8996]

Who was Hapsetsut ? Hatshepsut. Time of explosion is controversion ( 1650 - 1500 ).

[@panagiotis7946]

the most recent radiocarbon dating of an olive branch buried by the ash of the eruption places the date between 1627 and 1600 BC.[3] most likely the period between 1613 and 1614 BC.

[@Weedwizard600]

Based and wanax Tv pilled

[@beepboop204]

thanks KZbin for offering to "Translate to English" wow what a lifesaver

[@viorelpiscanu9425]

Many thanks...again! Luckly for me I was visiting this ancient Minoans settlement... So, can we Say that notion of polis was not an Aheeians invention!? Not even of that migratory tribes of dorians!?

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are you swedish?

[@WanaxTV]

No, but interesting guess. 👍🏻

[@beepboop204]

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[@LuisAldamiz]

Can anyone confirm which is the age of Platanos tholoi? I read that it seems to date to Early Minoan II (c. 2650-2200), which is quite old for such a Western influence. Never mind: I found this online: "Dating of the cemetery complex is not easy. Based on pottery found within the tomb, Tholos A dates from the EM II period. Two strata were found inside the tomb, a lower one dating to EM II and a higher one dating to EM III-MM I. Xanthoudides thought that Tholos B was built in EM III. With Tholos Gamma the picture is less clear. Xanthoudides thought it had EM II origins but there is also evidence suggesting an EM III-MM I beginning. "Suggested construction dates for other areas are: Tholos A annexe, MM I-MM II; the rooms south of Tholos A, MM IB-II; rectangular tombs alpha and gamma, MM I-LM; the annexe to Tholos B, date unknown; Area AB, MM I. Platanos seems to have had two tholoi in use through to MM I as well as undergoing major new construction during EM III-MM I, a combination unique to this cemetery". So I guess it's rather towards the end of EM II (c. 2300-2200 BCE) maybe being used all the way to c. 1900 BCE. Thus it is proto-palatial, which is interesting on itself and seems older than the Western EBA influence on Syria-Jordan (dolmenic Megalithism, which should not be older than c. 1800 BCE). Interestingly too, the Kamilari tholoi, clearly of a more "modern" and well finished design, began their chronology about the same time the Platanos burial complex was abandoned, what seems to relate to the founding of the city of Phaistos and the related palace of Hagia Triada. It makes total sense that after such a shift the "mausoleum" of the kingly dynasty was moved to a more convenient place near the city.

[@beepboop204]

" found this online" no other words lead one into the world of academic, objective, scientific facts more so than this 😛

[@LuisAldamiz]

@@beepboop204 - Do you have any contradictory data or even opinion or rather just making empty destructive criticism?

[@beepboop204]

@@LuisAldamiz i didnt realize you were so hostile to humor, nor did i realize humor was "EMPTY DESTRUCTIVE CRITICISM" thank goodness you shared some sick contrary data OR EVEN OPINION and didnt make any empty AND DERSTRUCTIVE criticism pherwwwwwwwwwwww

[@LuisAldamiz]

@@beepboop204 - I didn't know you were joking. That's why the gods of the Internet created the emoticons for: to more easily convey winks and other emotions that are not so easily transmitted in written text. Look up "Poe's Law". My original comment was very serious and I am surprised that you found it fertile ground for poorly communicated humor. But whatever rocks your boat in any case. I said "found online" bc linking in YT has become quite difficult nowadays (I began getting "spam" messages some months ago, even for links directing to very respectable sources and within the Alphabet (Google) domain (for example my own old blog, other YT videos, etc.)

[@panagiotis7946]

The disc of Phaistos The disc was found by the Italian archaeologist Luigi Pernier during of the archaeological excavations of Phaistos in 1908. The author states that the record was made by Luigi Pernier's finder. Motivation Why did Pernier come up with this trick? His colleague, the Italian archaeologist Federico Halbherr in 1884 began the excavations in Gortyna alongside the excavations of other Italian archaeologists in the area of ​​Messara. Halbherr found many objects with written texts in the ancient Greek language dating back to the early 5th century BC. The most important find, the famous inscriptions of Gortyna, found on the walls of the ancient city are the first written laws of Europe. Pernier was working with another excavation team at Phaistos. Until the beginning of the 19th century they probably had not found any important object. It was at the same time that Arthur Evans began the excavations of Knossos. Evans had many finds of Minoan scripts, Linear A and B. Expectations were high for everyone that Pernier would also find Minoan scripts. But nothing of the kind was found. What would Luigi Pernier do? What does he have to discover to gain enough credit and fame to compete with Evans and Federico Halbherr? THE Luigi Pernier found the answer quickly: A relic of the past with an undeciphered hieroglyphic text, the Phaistos Disc! Pernier was an Italian archaeologist. During his education in Italy he had certainly learned what in the 1890s was the subject of great debate: the Magliano Disko found in the late 1880s. The text is in the Etruscan language which had not been deciphered until then. The Phaisto disc and the Magliano disc are the only discs of this type ever found in the world! The technique is completely identical. Roughly circular, with the text in Etruscan to swirl inwards. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/03/Bleiplatte_von_Magliano.jpg what do you think about it?

[@ThimiPapathimiu]

Respekt for vidio .Kreta is head in albanian language.My grandfather is Anthimios Aleksudes and is sepeltur in Kreta,was Mitropolit and in Albania.Doja të të ndihmoja se e dua shumë Greqinë jemi i njëjti komb,kjo vertëtohet vetëm duke bërë ADN,dhe çdo gjë aty flet shqip,si i themi ne vetes në Shqipëri ,çkemi shqipe,por ne jemi arbëror si thonë në Greqi arvaitasve(arbanit),arbëresh janë e njëjta gjë.Është për të ardhur keq që politika e ndau popullin.arvaniti/arbaniti

[@chrisg.k487]

Τι λες ρε καψοκαλυβα; Τι σχέση έχετε με τους Μινωες βρε γελοιε😂😂😂

[@Error_-qz2zr]

its spelled festos

[@willsherman1049]

That is just the creepiest voice I have ever hear in a video. I expected it to ask to drink my blood. Yuk!

[@IceniBrave]

Mocking accents, really? That's your level, huh? Proud of yourself?