Pyro DOMINATES Johnny Storm

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@comics_explained
@comics_explained 4 ай бұрын
I brought receipts 🤣
@xxOblivionxx
@xxOblivionxx 4 ай бұрын
? 🤔?
@kcopara1
@kcopara1 4 ай бұрын
7:35 you were "cooking the books". Hulk dominated Pyro. He walked through his flames.
@TheHardys01
@TheHardys01 4 ай бұрын
2:22 Is the receipt still considered legitimate, if it's just words scribbled on a napkin?
@JonathanPerez-rl2on
@JonathanPerez-rl2on 4 ай бұрын
Pyro vs the Phoenix???
@cooperpup79
@cooperpup79 4 ай бұрын
Could he control the sun? Turn it off?
@BaithNa
@BaithNa 4 ай бұрын
It's actually genius. Pyro is a hard counter for Johnny Storm, more than Iceman ever was.
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 3 ай бұрын
Would if he went supernova
@OberynTheRedViper
@OberynTheRedViper 3 ай бұрын
Because of physics, pyro and iceman literally function the same. They control heat. Iceman doesn't control cold, he controls heat and he removes it from an area. It's due to a misunderstanding of physics by the writers when the characters were written. In theory, Pyro/Johnny Storm should be able to remove the heat from an area, and in practice they very much do so - Johnny more than Pyro because he has to flame off.
@MichaelAChristian1
@MichaelAChristian1 3 ай бұрын
No WAY!!
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure 3 ай бұрын
@@BaithNa if johnny absorbs flames it will just be a loop
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
No he isnt. Pyro is an ant compared to Johnny
@guyver6622
@guyver6622 3 ай бұрын
The thing is Pyro wants to become famous, he could have just become a firefighter and put an end to forest fires and building fires.😭and people would have praised him for it.
@felixspancakes969
@felixspancakes969 3 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@d36williams
@d36williams 3 ай бұрын
So many comic conflicts would be avoided if they took into account how much they'd get paid. Cyclops could get paid millions for helping construct mines. Jean Grey the home builder
@robocrop5862
@robocrop5862 3 ай бұрын
​@@d36williams youre forgetting that people can be racist to supes
@TheJanissary90
@TheJanissary90 3 ай бұрын
This reminds me Spider man-Sauron conversation SM:So you can manipulate human DNA?Do you know we can treat cancer with this? Sauron:But I just wanna turn people into dinasaurs. Maybe dude just wanna be evil.Also no matter what some group of people always hate mutants.
@brocKain
@brocKain 3 ай бұрын
He's also a mutant supremacist fascist, so. He isn't about helping humanity. lol
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 4 ай бұрын
Pyro: "Prepare for trouble!" Human Torch: "And make it double!"
@teslagod7221
@teslagod7221 4 ай бұрын
Bobby Drake : you guys need to cool down, or i will...
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure 4 ай бұрын
I didn't like you comment only because it was on 69...and...I just can't be the one to spoil that.
@marcusstewart4141
@marcusstewart4141 3 ай бұрын
@@TheWarmachine375 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅
@maesean
@maesean 3 ай бұрын
Lmfao 🤣 😂
@MaverickMagnus
@MaverickMagnus 3 ай бұрын
Wait...is that a Guajolote Macías reference? xD
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 4 ай бұрын
When you get your powers from a space accident, bitten by a radioactive spider, build a suit of armor or pick up a magic hammer of a god, no one bats an eye. But when you're born with powers, everyone loses their minds.
@prabalsaxena2434
@prabalsaxena2434 4 ай бұрын
you don't see the hysteria of being outclassed by a whole superior species vs accidental freaks?
@walterroche8192
@walterroche8192 4 ай бұрын
Hello Civil War calling!
@blacksmoke6292
@blacksmoke6292 4 ай бұрын
​​@@prabalsaxena2434Yeah but they probably still put them in the same category since they shouldn't know for sure.
@bizzerdman2093
@bizzerdman2093 4 ай бұрын
Spider-Man has been treated bad by civilians all the time. Either by being slandered by the daily bugle, accused of being a mutant, getting framed for crimes and getting hounded by police. Thor's a god and isn't always on earth. Tony is rich he just needs to buy his way out.
@RazielTheUnborn
@RazielTheUnborn 4 ай бұрын
​@@bizzerdman2093Sentinels straight dubbed him a mutant at one point.
@ArishemTheJudge-19
@ArishemTheJudge-19 4 ай бұрын
Saying Pryo could solo the Avengers is crazy. The guy is crazy Powerful but he's not touching Modern Hulk, Thor or Ironman alone let alone the entire team. 🤣
@rotyler2177
@rotyler2177 3 ай бұрын
just bring a backpack and a fire extinguisger geeeeeeez
@DrentifulGaming
@DrentifulGaming 3 ай бұрын
Right?! Like literally in this comic spider-man was able to take him down almost instantly. And he can’t really do anything if there’s not fire in the vicinity? Strange statement.
@minnil7927
@minnil7927 3 ай бұрын
Rob hates on the humans 😂
@Kloutkulture
@Kloutkulture 3 ай бұрын
Literally INSANE. Tf he really gonna do to the Hulk!? 😂LOL
@shepardren8006
@shepardren8006 3 ай бұрын
As powerful as the avengers are.... The only one that doesn't need oxygen is arguably the Hulk. Just. Let that sink in.
@woodrobin
@woodrobin 3 ай бұрын
Pyro vs Human Torch in terms of controlling fire is like Mozart vs Salieri. Johnny developed the skill to control flames as a sideline of his flame generating abilities over time, with tons of practice. Pyro is a natural virtuoso, and the flames respond to his whims and imagination as naturally as he breathes or walks or talks. Pyro isn't more powerful than Johnny, and Johnny can do things that Pyro flat out can't do (most notably create/generate fire on his own), but he has an advantage in terms of finesse and creativity in controlling flame that Johnny just can't match (no pun intended).
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes 3 ай бұрын
Johnny literally makes duplicates of himself made out of fire, which he controls, so that there are multiple human torches.
@sathishj7607
@sathishj7607 3 ай бұрын
More like avatar last bender movie fire benders vs actual show fire benders
@alexandervazquez7770
@alexandervazquez7770 3 ай бұрын
Creativity doesn't matter when your opponent is just straight up way stronger than you and way better than you at controlling fire. Plus pyro needs to breathe and Johnny can burn all the oxygen out of an area.
@woodrobin
@woodrobin 3 ай бұрын
@@alexandervazquez7770 Johnny needs oxygen to support his flame, and if he reverts to his non-flaming form, he also needs to breath.
@woodrobin
@woodrobin 3 ай бұрын
@@AdrianFahrenheitTepes True. That's a very recent development, and I had forgotten about it.
@knightlife22
@knightlife22 4 ай бұрын
Somebody get this man closer to the sun. For research purposes.
@angelquirozreales4339
@angelquirozreales4339 4 ай бұрын
The sun is plasma
@Joel-wx7zk
@Joel-wx7zk 4 ай бұрын
@@angelquirozreales4339 Who's to say he can't, he's inherently manipulating chemical reactions just like Magneto affects magnetism. If Pyro puts his mind to it, no reason he can't extend himself into plasma since the Human Torch can essentially produce fission inside of himself to become essentially a Sun but holds back cause he doesn't want to set the world on fire.
@KingShibe
@KingShibe 4 ай бұрын
Dr. Doom turned Johnny into the sun during Secret Wars 2015 and now he's on fire permanently for now
@kurisu355
@kurisu355 3 ай бұрын
Wont work because the sun isn't fire
@HB448
@HB448 3 ай бұрын
@@kurisu355he controls heat
@jahnelss
@jahnelss 4 ай бұрын
I definitely called BS this weekend 🤣😂
@MarcusSingletaryDMV
@MarcusSingletaryDMV 3 ай бұрын
😂 same here...I stand corrected
@HisNameIsEL
@HisNameIsEL 3 ай бұрын
Lmao
@mnemonic1363
@mnemonic1363 3 ай бұрын
The literal words that came out of my mouth when I saw it 😂
@micah459
@micah459 3 ай бұрын
Facts
@MikefromTexas1
@MikefromTexas1 4 ай бұрын
Pyro taking on the Avengers?? I gotta hear this...
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
Pyro cant do anything to the Avengers except the street level dudes
@alexproctor524
@alexproctor524 3 ай бұрын
Yea I heard that and was like wtf get real. Iron man can fold pyro 😂
@markusbonnet439
@markusbonnet439 3 ай бұрын
Potentially omega level , controlling energy itself
@nigelbryan7312
@nigelbryan7312 3 ай бұрын
LoL I was confused too
@LuxBellator92
@LuxBellator92 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, when Rob said that, I was like, hol' up 😂
@TheWarmachine375
@TheWarmachine375 4 ай бұрын
"Begun the Flame Wars has." - some green goblin dude with a stick probably
@UncleGamerNtwk
@UncleGamerNtwk 3 ай бұрын
😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
@kjk607
@kjk607 3 ай бұрын
For the Johnny fans out there, nobody is saying Pyro is more powerful than Johnny Storm. He just hard counters him.
@conorgillespie7832
@conorgillespie7832 3 ай бұрын
100%... but it only takes a spark to start a fire..
@irisdaniels2318
@irisdaniels2318 Ай бұрын
​@@conorgillespie7832and pyro can end his flame powers by snapping a finger.
@SUthunder14
@SUthunder14 3 ай бұрын
The real awnser is no. That Adventures Comics isn't mainstream 616 canon. Pyro only manipulates fire. Johnny can do the same and create fire. But here's the thing, Johnny doesn't just manipulates fire, he manipulates THERMAL AND SOLAR ENERGY. Johnny has even absorbed thermal energy out of people. That's how he defeated Graviton
@sevisavory
@sevisavory 3 ай бұрын
So basically he can
@SUthunder14
@SUthunder14 3 ай бұрын
@@sevisavory Not when Human Torch can do the litteral same and more.
@sevisavory
@sevisavory 3 ай бұрын
@@SUthunder14 he still mainly uses fire so without that hes nothing
@SUthunder14
@SUthunder14 3 ай бұрын
@yasuhoismine1508 Wow, you are absolutely wrong. Johnny has absorbed the power of two suns, has fought a Samurai without his powers, and he can absorb solar energy. He can even cover his body to solar energy, not just fire. Pyro needed a flamethrower in order for his powers to work
@sevisavory
@sevisavory 3 ай бұрын
@@SUthunder14 pyro absorbed billions of sun already lol he doesnt need a flamethrower when johnny is literally tye flame itself lol
@slybrian5743
@slybrian5743 3 ай бұрын
Pyro tries to control the Phoenix force. Jean grey telepathically tells him it's a bad idea. Pyro runs away.
@IamNoOne-001
@IamNoOne-001 3 ай бұрын
I don't think the phoenix force flames are actually flames, because she does that in space vacuum where there is no available oxigen. Looks more like energy plasm or something.
@ryanw459
@ryanw459 3 ай бұрын
@@IamNoOne-001then again when we see the Phoenix Five use it they literally burn people alive
@MisterGenesis64AK
@MisterGenesis64AK Ай бұрын
@@IamNoOne-001 They are pretty much made of psychic energy.
@joynelbonet194
@joynelbonet194 3 ай бұрын
Pyro is basically a fire version of Magneto
@giantorres92
@giantorres92 3 ай бұрын
Im sorry but no, pyro can't solo the avengers. Thor alone would easily put him down --- but i did love seeing him in Deadpool and that costume design was sick
@Crispr00
@Crispr00 3 ай бұрын
Fr 😂😂😂 that’s a joke
@shannonfernandez4049
@shannonfernandez4049 3 ай бұрын
He’s actually right if it’s thorforce Thor he’s toast
@Synical02
@Synical02 3 ай бұрын
He didn't say he would solo the avengers he said he could take them on, as in being a challenge. Obviously the hard hitters like hulk, and Thor would just have to slightly turn up to take him down
@UncannyEarl
@UncannyEarl 4 ай бұрын
Jonathan Hickman Fantastic Four Run was Flawless!!
@zerocool1ist
@zerocool1ist 4 ай бұрын
If they worked as a team together they could be beyond omega level.
@fornax4676
@fornax4676 Ай бұрын
That could be a fun team up.
@kamenrangerzeo8251
@kamenrangerzeo8251 4 ай бұрын
Deadpool: "Oh he's gonna say it! Avengers Assem.." Johnny Storm/Human Torch: "Flame On!" 😓 Deadpool: "Huh?"
@cortneyrogers8066
@cortneyrogers8066 4 ай бұрын
Literally me: YEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure 4 ай бұрын
That's probably why he did him dirty lol
@Weebgangotaku556
@Weebgangotaku556 3 ай бұрын
So we all here to confirm that Johnny that weak 😂
@Julietasoledadguzman42
@Julietasoledadguzman42 3 ай бұрын
​@@Weebgangotaku556us weak too sertsain villain for example: pyro he can asorb fire just like in deadpool and wolverine did
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
​@@Weebgangotaku556 Johnny is not weak. Not in the comics
@bradcha5413
@bradcha5413 4 ай бұрын
Pyro is an M night shamalan version Fire Bender
@Iron_Hawk_12
@Iron_Hawk_12 4 ай бұрын
It was awesome seeing that exchange, quick but quite fun!
@DeconstructedWithJosh
@DeconstructedWithJosh 3 ай бұрын
Pyro should go Omega level and use the sun's energy.
@nothx512
@nothx512 3 ай бұрын
Pyro is NOT the Phoenix Force
@DeconstructedWithJosh
@DeconstructedWithJosh 3 ай бұрын
@@nothx512 oh man... Are you commenting because you're bored? Never said anything about the damn Phoenix Force. Jesus. Go outside and get some sun.
@spitfire0781
@spitfire0781 3 ай бұрын
@@DeconstructedWithJoshlol tell him to go absorb the sun
@DeconstructedWithJosh
@DeconstructedWithJosh 3 ай бұрын
@@spitfire0781 😂You win the internet today friend👌
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
No no no no. Pyro shouldnt be on that level. He doesnt even have much love
@nofacedgoldfish6216
@nofacedgoldfish6216 3 ай бұрын
3:42 Unrelated, Spidey looking like he's about to pull out some metal claws.
@kevinmalone4341
@kevinmalone4341 3 ай бұрын
Hey man I love Pyro. But he is nowhere near Torch's level. Both of them have pyrokinesis* (controlling fire), but Torch is much stronger at it. They fought in the past before this issue and Torch just blew Pyro's flames back at him. Also Pyro is not immune to fire. If he loses control or meets a stronger power (like Torch), he can get burned. *Creating fire like Torch can do is pyrosis. See also Rusty from New Mutants.
@MichaelAChristian1
@MichaelAChristian1 3 ай бұрын
Great job!!!
@sidneybanksii
@sidneybanksii 3 ай бұрын
Yeah once Rob said even Galactus gave Johnny the nod, it was kind of settled. The video should have ended there. Unless we're claiming that a properly kitted-out Pyro could make Galactus take notice.
@blaze2285
@blaze2285 3 ай бұрын
Wtf so what they did in Deadpool & wolverine is disrespectful asf and doesn't make any sense then..
@no.1spidey-fan182
@no.1spidey-fan182 3 ай бұрын
​@@blaze2285 I mean your first clue should've been when they made him land like an idiot. Johnny is the STRONGEST person in the movie outside of Cassandra...and possibly Juggernaut...he can SOLO the ENTIRE BASE😭
@damronbrooks6902
@damronbrooks6902 3 ай бұрын
By that logic so would Colossus be stronger than Magneto since he can turn/ produce his own metal and Megnto can’t?
@MadridMonarch
@MadridMonarch 4 ай бұрын
Can Pyro technically control the Ghost Riders hellfire?
@_davidboxing
@_davidboxing 4 ай бұрын
Should be no considering its supernatural origin, but idk. Good question.
@stevencardwell
@stevencardwell 4 ай бұрын
Good question. I'm way too stupid to answer so imma enjoy the comments instead.
@nathanxxvii
@nathanxxvii 4 ай бұрын
Interesting. I'd love to read it.. and maybe mephisto allying himself with the mutant.
@cornonjacob
@cornonjacob 4 ай бұрын
My guess would be he can manipulate it but gets hurt by it
@Francisah
@Francisah 4 ай бұрын
Could he control the phoenix force since its form is fire?
@kcopara1
@kcopara1 4 ай бұрын
You were "cooking the books" in this video 😂. 7:35 Pyro was dominated in his fight with gray hulk. It went like this as pyro was using his flames on the hulk and the hulk walked through it like nothing. Hulk said: "Ah! I was hoping you'd show up what's the ff for ?.'french fried ?" You see, You don't get it . Your flames slowed me before. . but that was then. And this is now. You are toast." Hulk proceeded to knock out Pyro.
@giornikitop5373
@giornikitop5373 4 ай бұрын
yeah, getting more flames doesn't give you more physical strength, that's ridiculous. and gray hulk was one of the weakest versions (he was basically beaten by everyone), but still way stronger than a simple mutant. i guess ppl read something and understand what they want to understand, not what the story shows.
@patd9850
@patd9850 3 ай бұрын
Pyro literally manipulates fire. While Johnny generates and controls his flames.
@conorgillespie7832
@conorgillespie7832 3 ай бұрын
He's lowkey a Green lantern using a lighter instead of a ring.
@Marx1684
@Marx1684 4 ай бұрын
6:10 I love these types of references. Things being all over the place for the sake of writing doesn’t need to be shamed but it should be called out.
@christianwiberg447
@christianwiberg447 4 ай бұрын
Pyro doesn't generate fire only controls it. So if nothing is ignited or sparking he can't do anything. Johnny can burn by himself he creates his flame and can control it to a certain degree. Plus Johnny can go supernova.
@gamertech9871
@gamertech9871 3 ай бұрын
@@christianwiberg447 did you turn the video on just to mute it and walk away?
@christianwiberg447
@christianwiberg447 3 ай бұрын
@@gamertech9871 no just a comic reader from way back and owner of the marvel RPG game. Plus I know pyro and simply watching the third xmen movie the one where iceman is actually in it, they show how his powers work. Plus if you look at his costume he literally carries a flame thrower with him because he controls fire not generates it.
@gamertech9871
@gamertech9871 3 ай бұрын
@@christianwiberg447 wow that’s crazy. I never knew pyro controls flames. I was so confused when the exact same thing was said in the video
@unfi5hable
@unfi5hable 3 ай бұрын
Uh....... Duh...?
@neverenoughhotsauce5644
@neverenoughhotsauce5644 3 ай бұрын
I think Johnny was holding back, supernova wouldn’t be a choice since, in my opinion, he was thinking about the collateral damage. Johnny can light atmosphere on fire.
@yodaslovetoy
@yodaslovetoy 4 ай бұрын
That's what he gets for talking trash about Cassandra....
@patrickturk8957
@patrickturk8957 4 ай бұрын
Seriously?
@mitchmaule6517
@mitchmaule6517 4 ай бұрын
​@@patrickturk8957 see the movie tart
@mellowyello1478
@mellowyello1478 4 ай бұрын
"And you can quote me on that." "Kay."
@ssjdon
@ssjdon 4 ай бұрын
​@@patrickturk8957Chris Evans returns as human torch in Deadpool & Wolverine , Henry Cavil is a Wolverine Variant in the movie also bruh lol your welcome for spoiling
@reyagu4607
@reyagu4607 4 ай бұрын
@@ssjdon I didn’t think it was possible to have little dick energy through a comment section, good job bro
@nctpti2073
@nctpti2073 3 ай бұрын
Why couldn't Johnny simply flame off? Even if Pyro is able to overpower Johnny's control of his fire, Pyro does not control powers, themselves. Storm could just wait til he is relatively low to the ground, flame off and go punch Pyro out.
@redroman4214
@redroman4214 3 ай бұрын
That's not even mentioning that Pyro overpowering Johnny is a big if since he can generate his own flames on top of being able to manipulate them. Unlike Johnny, Pyro can get hurt by the heat he doesn't or loses control over. Johnny is not only impervious to extreme heat, he can even absorb heat. A Super Skrull that took Johnny's powers can absorb infinite heat. Johnny stomps Pyro so badly that the title is honestly hilarious.
@dylantyler201
@dylantyler201 3 ай бұрын
​@@redroman4214I think it's a nod to his earliest days, as Johnny often would run out of flame "fuel" and need to rest and recharge. It also makes sense that the Fox version is the most nerfed lol
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 2 ай бұрын
That's a little tricky if Johnny is already in flight at that point in time. And yes, Johnny got more powerful over time; modern johnny curbstomps pyro easily, but past johnny would be curbedstomped by pyro because he was significantly less effective at using his powers back then, similar to iceman.
@no.1spidey-fan182
@no.1spidey-fan182 3 ай бұрын
Johnny Storm? More like JOBBER Storm. Poor Chris Evans Johnny...always being used to showcase how strong the enemy is. One day he'll have a PROPER adaptation again😔
@SpiderDan2099
@SpiderDan2099 4 ай бұрын
I have always Marveled at the fact that Spidey used to use 'Asbestos Webbing' for these types of scenarios and then of course we found out just how nasty that stuff is. I wonder if they ever put out a PSA to address that? Rob and his Amazing Friends, ya'll know?
@ericm5315
@ericm5315 4 ай бұрын
Spider-man gave a loooot of people cancer. Not just MJ.
@cajunrandy2143
@cajunrandy2143 4 ай бұрын
johnny controls flames around him too- he can also suck the heat out of anything
@SunDry_Marchy
@SunDry_Marchy 4 ай бұрын
Continuity differences
@ScorpiusXVI
@ScorpiusXVI 3 ай бұрын
The issue is that Pyro is not made of heat or has any heat on his body. He’s like Magneto but with fire powers. That’s why in X-2 Magneto praises Pyro and his abilities because they are so similar. Really liked pyro in the original X-Men movies.
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
​@@ScorpiusXVI Pyro has heat on his body. He has body heat and the flamethrower he has generates heat. Torch wins
@Joxshuxa
@Joxshuxa 3 ай бұрын
@@Tribrid-zv3nqnope
@gapsule2326
@gapsule2326 3 ай бұрын
He absorbs radiation
@bryanjedi8242
@bryanjedi8242 3 ай бұрын
Still though, it kinda sucks how quickly they dispatched Johnny Storm. I know he was played as a joke but they could’ve allowed him to take out some other villains before losing to Pyro. I mean they gave the other heroes their due. Kinda my issue with Deadpool 3, on one had it honors these cancelled versions and on the other it completely disrespects them. The FF movies might’ve been bad but the cast was great for the most part.
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 3 ай бұрын
Agreed
@BrandonJamol
@BrandonJamol 4 ай бұрын
I’d find it hard to believe Pyro could best Tony Stark .. I mean in the comics you can write any outcome for any character but in this MCU we’re in I just can’t see fire really defeating the avengers … he would destroy Martian the manhunter but luckily he’s in DC and not marvel lol
@magazineretriever9036
@magazineretriever9036 3 ай бұрын
Johnny Storm could make his hands searing hot (without creating flames) and then scald the bejesus out of Pyro's flesh.
@gmbane384
@gmbane384 4 ай бұрын
Happy Tuesday y'all, hope you have a blessed day.
@stevetrevor7004
@stevetrevor7004 4 ай бұрын
I love when 2 different characters with the same source of power. Same with thor and storm
@dimacsenpai3975
@dimacsenpai3975 26 күн бұрын
“Pyro could solo the avengers” gets his butt kick easily by Spider-Man
@hotsaucefire
@hotsaucefire 4 ай бұрын
Let's NOT let you have that dream Rob!!
@LihimSidhe
@LihimSidhe 3 ай бұрын
You haven't shown up in my feed for a while but now that I've come back... I really like this 'feat analysis' direction. Makes your videos more of a resource for those that have at least a passive interest in power scaling. I used to read comics like mad back in the 90's but fast forward 20-30 years I only loosely follow a couple manga so the feat analysis direction also helps me as a viewer understand more of the history of these characters. Either way enjoy what you do!
@____2080_____
@____2080_____ 4 ай бұрын
4:41 this is where Marvel doesn’t understand the nature of plasma Plasma is literally identical to the powers of Wonder Man. Plasma is literally subatomic particles with various levels of charge. When you put that charge on a macro level, you get the powers of both storm and any other electrical power. You also get a compliment to ionic/plasma/electric in terms of magnetism by characters like magneto . Buddy gets even deeper, when you escalate any of those powers into the infinite degree, you can generate powers to the highest wavelength that we know of in terms of gamma rays. The gamma burst we see throughout the cosmos, the highest form of energy we know, are essentially plasma phenomena. So characters like Wonder Man, to a lesser extent Count Nefaria (who has more than wonder man’s power since he can shoot lasers out of his eyes, move as super speed in his Superman analog nature), the human torch, storm of the X-Men, the villain magneto all have powers that might be able to influence each other So, storm or Thor in their control of electricity, might be able to do something against Count Nefaria By manipulating the ionic energy Of his being This also might be the mechanism that characters like the Hulk and the red hulk are able to absorb energy. According to electrical engineering science, most of the high particle emissions throughout the universe are electrical and nature, and we generate all of those radiations on earth through electricity. So, if Johnny storm a.k.a. the human torch somehow creates plasma around himself or turns into it, then since plasma is a feature of sons and our star and plasma is identical to ionic energy, electrical characters will be able to manipulate Johnny storm the same way that Pyro has shown to manipulate his flame. The question is a important one Fuel based flame burns oxygen. Plasma based flame won’t be put out through lack of air or submersion in water Marvel is going to have to add to the backlog of no prizes it owes me
@giornikitop5373
@giornikitop5373 4 ай бұрын
you're getting too technical and thinking it too much. it's just comics and marvell never cared about making any powers "make sense".
@jvbon646
@jvbon646 4 ай бұрын
Plasma and Fire aren't the same
@Wunnabeanbag
@Wunnabeanbag 4 ай бұрын
Bro wtf thank you. I thought you were being a smart ass but as i read on i realised. Hold on, bro is talking sense
@Wunnabeanbag
@Wunnabeanbag 4 ай бұрын
Maybe this applies to DC’s Firestorm
@angeloc7486
@angeloc7486 3 ай бұрын
They let Pyro win because the cameo of Chris is costing them more money🙄
@Abominatrix650
@Abominatrix650 3 ай бұрын
Fire isn't a fundamental force of existence. There's only 4 of them and it isn't a "4 elements" type deal, either. It's more gravity, electrostatic attraction and the strong and weak nuclear forces. Don't know why the comic said that, especially since Marvel themselves tried to make a villain team who each represented each of those facets with their powers This is exactly why I have issues with Pyro being able to take out Human Torch like that. Pyro is basically an off-brand firebender and Torch can do everything Pyro can do and more.
@kwabenaamanfoh6675
@kwabenaamanfoh6675 4 ай бұрын
So I wonder if Anchor beings is going to be similar the reaction when Doom was hoping universes killing molecule men.
@seankelly8432
@seankelly8432 3 ай бұрын
I loved Deadpool and Wolverine but I was pretty disappointed in how they treated Johnny. The other cameos were great though
@akarakirimayowagabriel7848
@akarakirimayowagabriel7848 3 ай бұрын
Pyro can't beat johnny because his weapon which is his flamethrower can be disabled and the fire can be absorbed by Johnny. So, it's going to be a battle of who has more powerful control over fire.
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes
@AdrianFahrenheitTepes 3 ай бұрын
I mean this same channel showed Johnny as a non-mutant demonstrating power levels at the level of Omega Level Mutants. Johnny can literally make flame copies of himself or absorb fire into himself. Plus he counteracted cosmic powers like the Annihilation Wave.
@stephanjordan3585
@stephanjordan3585 3 ай бұрын
A great question to address. Well done. You keep getting better.
@BlackStarrTurnsHeel
@BlackStarrTurnsHeel 4 ай бұрын
One of the few people Pyro has a 1UP on. 😂
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
He doesnt
@alphacanine1014
@alphacanine1014 3 ай бұрын
@@Tribrid-zv3nq He does.
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
@@alphacanine1014 Except he doesnt cuz Pyro's an ant compared to Human Torch
@redroman4214
@redroman4214 3 ай бұрын
​​@@alphacanine1014 he really doesn't. Johnny can manipulate flames as well as absorb it. He's a better version of Pyro in every way. Any fire that Pyro doesn't manipulate can and will hurt him. He can only control flames. Johnny can generate flames and even go supernova. He can manipulate them and absorb them. This isn't a fight that Pyro can win. It's only a fight Pyro wins if the writers love Pyro and hate Johnny but if it's a neutral writer trying to depict both of them equally, Human Torch dominates.
@nothx512
@nothx512 3 ай бұрын
I disagree with Pyro being able to extinguish The Human Torch's abilities....Human Torch has Cosmic elements....like smoke screens without flames that can radiate heat....Pyro cannot lower his temperature....(meaning) the Human Torch can make him have a Heat stroke
@mlo009
@mlo009 3 ай бұрын
Pyro got KO'ed by an Iceman headbutt.
@grudgematch6653
@grudgematch6653 3 ай бұрын
Exactly
@LunarLegacy
@LunarLegacy 3 ай бұрын
No tf he doesn't 😂😂 This fight leans very heavily towards Johnny Storm. Johnny is significantly stronger and faster than Pryo, and he can absolutely speedblitz him. Pyro can still be burned by fire he doesn't control, but Johhny is completely immune to fire, so while he most likely could manipulate Johnny's fire, he has no way of actually harming him since his only form of offense is fire. Also, Johnny could potentially create fire so powerful that Pryo can't control.
@sinteleon
@sinteleon 2 ай бұрын
Though that assumes johnny doesn't make the mistake of flying near pyro. Gravity is a harsh mistress.
@Fsecret
@Fsecret 4 ай бұрын
Probably one of the source's of inspiration for a Secend generation Pyrokinetic fron Fire Force, but with no limits
@mashushiki
@mashushiki 3 ай бұрын
yes, very debatable. i feel like he could probably do it too. it’s kind of a similar situation to Iceman’s case. essentially, (just like Iceman) i’m willing to bet Pyro has untapped potential where he can train to become even more powerful. iirc, in other iterations of Iceman’s potential, he can slow down the molecules of a whole town or bigger. been awhile, but i think it’s something along those lines
@DFPWeaponX
@DFPWeaponX 4 ай бұрын
Lmao spider man cartoon from the 60s where he mixed asbestos into his web fluid. That's what always pops into my mind when he fights anyone with fire like powers lmao
@WebbedManiac
@WebbedManiac 3 ай бұрын
"Pyro can defeat the Avengers" Pyro when Thor summons a rainstorm and just douses the entire area:
@steelfalcon472
@steelfalcon472 4 ай бұрын
Pyro might be able to defeat Johnny Storm. But is he able to manipulate his taste buds to be able to resist the delicious heroic taste of Hostess Fruit Pies?
@nobodyknowsforsure
@nobodyknowsforsure 4 ай бұрын
An impossible feat...no one has successfully resisted those pies...
@isaacclark9825
@isaacclark9825 4 ай бұрын
@@nobodyknowsforsure I have. I suspect the recipe has changed over the years and I don't like them anymore. I'm pretty sure Darkseid could resist them too.
@24kam48
@24kam48 4 ай бұрын
Major Glory is that you?
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
Pyro cant defeat Johnny on a good day or Johnny's best day
@AlucardFeeds
@AlucardFeeds 4 ай бұрын
Man, I wish he and Benny saw this together. Would have loved to hear his commentary on the movie. RiP mate.
@THEANPHROPY
@THEANPHROPY 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the upload Brother! Johnny is an Omega Level Mutant being able to Literally go Supernova: which requires a minimum of 1.9884 x 10 ^(30) Kg x 8; which equates to 8 solar masses for a type II Supernova, conversely, for a type Ia supernova you require 2.784 x 10^(30) Kg to go Supernova. This means Johnny is able to radiate the equivalent energy for this mass as it is a literal state of being that he consciously induces with full control! Ergo: PLEASE cease the nerf of Johnny Storm Brother :::)). Takecare. peace & Love!!!
@ericm5315
@ericm5315 4 ай бұрын
And he can do it twice. He has to hold back because if he goes anywhere near full bore most of his allies will die or there's going to be immense collateral damage. He's a heavy hitter.
@akouri6967
@akouri6967 3 ай бұрын
He's not a mutant
@Yippeykaymf
@Yippeykaymf 3 ай бұрын
He ain't a mutant lil bro
@chancewilliams3391
@chancewilliams3391 4 ай бұрын
That Pyro's a bloody spy!
@orrellspirit
@orrellspirit 3 ай бұрын
You bringing up spider man and talking about Johnny story reminds me of when we had to race him in the ultimate Spiderman game
@ishmaelprimeaux3564
@ishmaelprimeaux3564 3 ай бұрын
"lick cinnamon hole clean" and "Bald Hell" 😂
@amilcarpolanen5994
@amilcarpolanen5994 4 ай бұрын
pyro lookin like zaxx in that last panel
@tenebrousoul9368
@tenebrousoul9368 3 ай бұрын
Forgive my ignorance, but is this your only Pyro video? Would love more of him, or Tusk, or Adam X, or dozens of others under utilized characters. I'm slowly going through your backlog. Thank you.
@DuncGaming
@DuncGaming 4 ай бұрын
The funniest scene had to be that Johnny storm really did talk shit about Cassandra Nova 😂😭😭😭
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
She deserved it
@markeesebutler
@markeesebutler 3 ай бұрын
I couldn’t believe he shut down Jonny like that in the movie
@s-wo8781
@s-wo8781 3 ай бұрын
Yeah Johnny can get as hot as the sun. Even stated in his own movie so there's no way Pyro should be able to drain that much from Johnny. Johnny should be able to easily overwhelm him.
@NoCoverComics
@NoCoverComics 3 ай бұрын
Most flame users can control fire to some extent. Pyro is lesser, because he can’t create it and isn’t immune to it.
@OlJohnJoe
@OlJohnJoe 3 ай бұрын
That makes sense but also it doesn't because how can johnny no control the fire that literally is encasing his body. It feels like he should be able to since he would burn alive otherwise. and he can go supernova! I mean can Pyro control the SUN!!!!? Let’s be real!
@cptsketch13
@cptsketch13 3 ай бұрын
I think Johnny is nerfed in those stories. The dude held off The annihilation wave
@jamesmcfail6868
@jamesmcfail6868 3 ай бұрын
This pyro glazing is the stuff of legend
@kelvinkelvin6200
@kelvinkelvin6200 4 ай бұрын
Let you have your dream? No, tell the truth🤣
@bodivanbodivan3668
@bodivanbodivan3668 3 ай бұрын
Being able to control heat automatically makes you omega level. The things that he can do are insane.
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
No it doesnt. Pyro aint omega level. Pyro is a low level street character
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
Johnny is omega level though
@bodivanbodivan3668
@bodivanbodivan3668 3 ай бұрын
@@Tribrid-zv3nq I didn't say he was. I said he should be. And he isn't a street-level anything. Heat manipulation is the same as Iceman just the opposite and he's omega level. If he was used correctly then he would automatically fall in the category of omega level. If that has to be explained then you need to turn in your badge because its over for.
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
@@bodivanbodivan3668 no you said being able to control heat automatically makes you omega level which is wrong
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
@@bodivanbodivan3668 "if that has to be explained then you need turn in your badge" way to go on the offensive bud. Cant even give a good comeback lol
@danielguthrie7367
@danielguthrie7367 4 ай бұрын
Sunspot vs human torch ???
@deannas2778
@deannas2778 3 ай бұрын
I still dont know why in the movie Johnny would attack the one person who could manipulate flame. 😂 He had to know by that point pyro was around that group. And firestar in the comics was kind of like the human torch but her mutation gave her cancer.
@MusicLover-my6fo
@MusicLover-my6fo 4 ай бұрын
I'm just imagining Human Torch, Firestarter, Sunspot and Ghost Rider doing a 1v 4 against Pyro and him soloing all of them now.
@Azrael713
@Azrael713 3 ай бұрын
Has he ever controlled hellfire before? That would be interesting if he hasn't.
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
He cant solo them
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
​@@Azrael713 he cant. He cant control Johnny's full flames
@redroman4214
@redroman4214 3 ай бұрын
The writer that makes that into reality would be the biggest Pyro fanboy. I don't think he can even beat any of them in a 1v1.
@blue_M247
@blue_M247 Ай бұрын
​@@redroman4214true😅
@SpikeMatthews
@SpikeMatthews 3 ай бұрын
Nice. I'd like to see you doing a series where you compare characters with similar power sets (gravity control, teleporting, phasing) and where each person has a weak point.
@Tactical_variable
@Tactical_variable 4 ай бұрын
Our blood is pretty warm he could probably control that to😂
@Super.Dario.daVibediver
@Super.Dario.daVibediver 3 ай бұрын
Could you imagine a Ghost Rider-possessed Human Torch…
@Afrotistic
@Afrotistic 3 ай бұрын
I wish he used his powers more in the movie 😭
@Andy-rp9bp
@Andy-rp9bp 3 ай бұрын
I fuckin love this channel. Please keep doing what you're doing bro.
@split88
@split88 4 ай бұрын
Yeah they did HT dirty...pyro cant even make fire,bull shiii!
@christopherjones5827
@christopherjones5827 3 ай бұрын
I always wondered about this.
@kingshadow8782
@kingshadow8782 4 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@medaanhil4133
@medaanhil4133 3 ай бұрын
I was waiting for this video. Thank you Rob I needed this video 😂😂
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
Uh Rob, Human Torch is out of Pyro's league. That one instance means nothing
@Tampabruh
@Tampabruh 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, i hate with a passion how they did him in the Deadpool movie going up against Pyro!
@alex_eats_hands8856
@alex_eats_hands8856 3 ай бұрын
I wasn't sure how much I liked this scene in the movie but now i feel better bout it, thanks for educating me Rob
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
You're easily misinformed and not very good at deciding a winner
@theprodigalsun__
@theprodigalsun__ 4 ай бұрын
So Johnny storm’s punch stopped him but Peter’s didn’t? lol and don’t give me the whole “Spider-Man holds back” argument. I am aware, but Pete’s punch still sent him flying lol
@RobM-og7lb
@RobM-og7lb 3 ай бұрын
Oddly enough, you can burn water and start fires underwater under very specific conditions. Also it seems to me that pyro would not dominate johnny. True pryo might be able to control his flame, but he can really hurt him with it either. And the fact that johnny could just absorb the fire back in him would suggest any fight would probable end in a fist fight. Their powers mostly a nonfactor that is unless pyro tries to preoccuppy the torch by endangering others with his powers and attack him when distracted or something like that.
@trutherbotJOKER3
@trutherbotJOKER3 4 ай бұрын
In real life: have you ever heard of "Human combustion"? Not sure how real it is, but ppl just bursting into flames basically, of course they un-alive but imagine if it could be controlled
@isaacclark9825
@isaacclark9825 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, Imagine if fire did not actually have to burn something in order to continue. Sorry, I just cannot do that.
@scottiestorch852
@scottiestorch852 3 ай бұрын
Pyro taking over Phoenix?? OP!
@nostrathomas8057
@nostrathomas8057 4 ай бұрын
Not to mention they're basically saying that spiderman's fire retardant webs are stronger than the human torch's fire while pyro is controlling it. .....ugh, comics
@ericm5315
@ericm5315 4 ай бұрын
If the flames coat Johnny then moving the flames would just move them off of him and Johnny would secrete more flames. There's potential for this to be cool, like siphoning off all of Johnny's power, Pyro freaking out because he's holding a couple sun's worth of power and can't control it with the rest of the F4 to show up and help the situation but the writing is just inconsistent and lazy, the editor was asleep to approve this crap lol.
@grondunn9707
@grondunn9707 3 ай бұрын
Pyro just needs to become obsessed with the Sun
@IAMOSIRAS13
@IAMOSIRAS13 3 ай бұрын
Perfect host for the Spirit of vengeance
@EligosIV
@EligosIV 3 ай бұрын
Galactus vs The Witness from Destiny 2
@zaster101
@zaster101 3 ай бұрын
In my opinion the whole cosmic aspect of the fantastic 4 should be looked more into like johnny can take all the energy of a nuke but only is abk=le to make flames, i hope one day they amp him up so is just basically a lesser silver sulfer or captain marvel who focus more on the energy aspects versus having super stregnth with it
@KLTChannel
@KLTChannel 3 ай бұрын
Pyro was never supposed to be that strong.
@MegaGoku49
@MegaGoku49 4 ай бұрын
Bro finally someone did a video on this
@Xerxes069
@Xerxes069 4 ай бұрын
Rob, who would win between the Human Torch and Sunspot?!
@Tribrid-zv3nq
@Tribrid-zv3nq 3 ай бұрын
Human Torch has more and better feats
@mattr7120
@mattr7120 4 ай бұрын
I like hearing about weird match ups. Please keep the awesome vids coming. ❤
@coursetaken15
@coursetaken15 4 ай бұрын
who will win if johnny storm from fantastic four movies fight storm from x men movies?
@_davidboxing
@_davidboxing 4 ай бұрын
Good question
@elirobertson5113
@elirobertson5113 4 ай бұрын
Storm, is the strongest out of the XMen. She’s an Omega level mutant. No team can really stand against the XMen
@bacon4life314
@bacon4life314 4 ай бұрын
@@elirobertson5113She’s pretty nerfed in the x-men movies. He’s talking movies not comics
@LETURA.
@LETURA. 4 ай бұрын
​@@elirobertson5113jean is stronger tho
@elirobertson5113
@elirobertson5113 4 ай бұрын
@@bacon4life314 facts I didn’t see the Movie part lol
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