Pyrodex: Powder vs. Pellets

In this video I’ll compare the difference in power between loose Pyrodex powder and Pyrodex pellets. Be sure to subscribe to my channel for more videos. Thanks for watching!
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[@GunsOfTheWest]

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[@RadDadisRad]

I saw these and bought the pellets because they are very easy, convenience does come at a price as they are more expensive.

[@reaperreconnaissance599]

I love the convenience of the pellets but for the price you get for 100 pellets vs the powder…. The powder just makes more sense

[@LarryTalbot_1313]

I could never get a spread like that with loose powder no matter how I measure it. Believe me, I've tried everything! They don't sell the "boxes" of pellets here. They only sell the pellets in the plastic cans. It's a shame because the boxes look like they would perfect for holding paper cartridges! So much for trying to recycle!!!

[@patriot3431]

At my local Cabela’s they sell by the plastic box.

[@85waspnest]

I find 30 grain flask spouts only drop 28 grains, not a true 30. Although reasonably consistent, charges aren't quite as accurate as weighed charges. I'd like to see the same test repeated with a weighed loose Pyrodex P --- 22.8 grain - (30grain Volume).

[@jerseyred9554]

One of my favorite subjects, Guns & the Old West

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Mine too!

[@jerseyred9554]

@@GunsOfTheWest Yeah it is Dustin

[@stargod3064]

Is 30 grain Pyrodex good for Uberti 1860 44cal?

[@jerseyred9554]

@@stargod3064 I don't see why not

[@woodrowbrimm2805]

I'm just wondering if you could get the Extreme Spread and Standard Deviation to match the Pellets by weighing the Pyrodex Powder since the Pellets must be weighed in manufacturing. You could pre- weigh the charges into small vials before going to the range.

[@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV]

Another very insightful video from Dustin! Yes Pydrodex Revolver Pellets are practical for the user of percussion revolvers. These Pellets make for a good Medium to make for an excellent Combustible Pellet Cartridge with attaching by glue any of my Universal Bullets to such. I am looking to see about if Hodgdon will produce Triple Seven or their newer Powder Triple 8 in a 3F granulation Pelletized form.

[@blueduck9409]

Generally, the tighter you compress the loose powder, the higher the velocity. Im willing to bet that if you want similar performance with loose powder, find the right level of compression.

[@dwm1812]

Do they come for a .36 cal 1851? I could only find .44 cal online.

[@JohnnaMartywashere]

As always, you have outdone yourself! Great content and please keep it coming, and more often!!! Thanks!👍

[@BogeyTheBear]

I seriously doubt it has any effect, but I notice on my Uberti 1860 Army that if you pull the nipples off and look through the empty chambers, the hole in back where the nipple goes is slightly offset from the center of the chamber. Which means the nipple itself doesn't sit quite in the middle. I see the pellets are hollow, presumably for even burning or something to that effect as the cap pumps flame down the middle of the pellet. But again, on my 1860, that ignition flame isn't going down the exact center of the chamber.

[@jffry890]

These things burn really fast compared to loose powder. The recoil is a lot snappier akin to modern brass cased ammunition.

[@richardhenry1969]

I was wondering about them now I feel bad I didn't grab a few. They really weren't a bad price. That is all things considered especially in my state they hate guns unless it's in the hand of criminals. They seem to protect them.

[@donovansavage4351]

NY or Cali? New York is horrible & i just happen to live in this disgraceful state lol.

[@richardhenry1969]

@@donovansavage4351 I’m in Maryland which is just as bad as both it’s just not talked about.

[@celsoaocana5542]

Hi great video. I have an older model Pietta 1860 Army made in 1995 and the pellets does not fit bottom of my cylinder narrows at the bottom so still have to use powder until I buy a current model so I can use the pellets. Thanks for the info.

[@rwbimbie5854]

30 FFFg EQ is hotter than I want to shoot I got a brass Pietta 51, and I want to make it last by staying far far away from hard loads Brass guns can do a whole lotta plinking for a whole lotta years, if thats what you load them for

[@salthack]

Dang, where do you go in the west desert that is isolated? Need to find a place I can shoot long range without wearing a plate carrier for stray rounds from the bubbas shooting TVs and fridges. Seems like the regular spots always have people.

[@kbutcher357]

These pellets are easy enough to encourage more Black powder enthusiasts🤔

[@jaydo1879]

Stupid question. Can you use pellets in a traditional rifle like a Hawken?

[@baqashahmath1566]

Awesome where can you buy those pyrodex pistol pellets?

[@RobertBlevins]

Another solid video. Gets to the point, gets the answers. Upvoted for sure.

[@TribalRacing30]

Just getting into black powder revolvers, really appreciate the good content!

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for watching!

[@dennischerone6780]

I'm going into a muzzleloading rifle so I'm going to sell my Pietta 1851 Navy colt replica to pay for it.

[@FaronGladden-c8b]

Do they make pellets for .36 cal ?

[@ChicanoSteve]

Can we use these pallets on brass frames?!?!

[@manofkentcatapultsgunsando5069]

Load my shotshells for my old hammer gun with PYRODEX Rs all the time here in the uk. Fantastic patterns.🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@WORRO]

Very helpful thanks! Thumbs-up video ~John

[@raysheppard8040]

Due to black powder being unobtainable I primarily use pyrodex. The information on 777 Taurus Hipoint enthusiast shared, strengthened my like of pyrodex

[@slant6guy]

*_Impressive._* Wanna get some of those Pyrodex pellets for the Walker & New Model Army here. Just like any cap&ball revolver, cleaning + oiling them up them after their use is a must. Great test on that and thank you, Dustin!

[@BogeyTheBear]

I still prefer the dial-a-yield nature of a powder. In my Dragoon I can plink with lightly charged round balls, go practical with heavily-loaded conicals, card lead birdshot for pests, or pack blanks for theatrics and signalling. Loose powder gives me all those options. Pellets, not so much.

[@3dmikes497]

the pellets are without a doubt more consistent but my only complaint is that they will not fit a conical bullet with a wad. only loose powder works for that, i imagine its because the pellets are a tad longer due to the center hole made for the application with the pipe cleaner. pros and cons i suppose, but for paper cartridges loose powde ris a must for me, but it may be my model 1851 navy colt

[@narrowpath2980]

is there anything a shooter can do to prevent a cap from falling out ?

[@chuckmartial3956]

Press it on good with a stick or get smaller primers if you must

[@KeithStevensMoes]

Nice back drop !!! great vid !

[@kbutcher357]

Has anyone taken a pellet and turned it into powder, for a larger bore/caliber?

[@410mossberg]

Good video. I have always used real black powder in my cap and ball revolvers. However black powder is getting harder to find around here. I guess my question is about using Pyrodex instead of black powder. It is readily available and easy to get. Is clean up more difficult after using it (more so than black powder)? I think the pellets are a great option and I think I will try them. No more measuring! Lube is always a good idea. Thanks again for the informative video.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Cleanup is noticeably more difficult than black powder, but not bad. Thanks for watching!

[@siestatime4638]

Pyrodex residue is also more corrosive than black powder residue, so it's even more important that you clean promptly.

[@sdolsay]

Not sure where you live but my local Scheel's sell Pyrodex powder and the pellets, they also sell Triple 7

[@reflectivedetailing5936]

Soap and warm water.. oil it and your good

[@MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV]

Excellent insightful thoughtful question. Pyrodex is infact more corrosive then Real Black Powder is or Triple Seven. I prefer to use Triple Seven 3F with my Universal Bullets for Hunting and Wilderness Defense purposes as Fresh Triple Seven 3F gives the Ultimate in speed Power. I urge anyone intetested to see Hodgdon come out with a Pelletized version either in Triple Seven in 3F granulation or the new Hodgdon Triple 8 Powder to write to Hodgdon ask such such as Customer feedback is critical. The "Squeaky Wheel" gets the Oil.

[@Al-Fiallos]

I really like watching your videos. Excellent presentation and editing. I always learn something new. Thanks, Al

[@Leverguns50]

Interesting results, got the good work

[@tonydavisbusiness]

Good job

[@bruceclark5627]

I wonder how much spread there would be if you measured out the loose powder?I use a colt flask with a measured spout,but it's never as consistent as when I load each chamber with a measure.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

These were all loaded with a measure.

[@ralphperez4862]

Holy Hannah there Dustin, whodda thunk it? I wouldn't have believed it until I saw it here. Now I'm going to have to try it out. Thanks again for another great video.

[@stargod3064]

How could the lube interfere with graph? Increase FPS or slower it?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Lube will often go over the sensors of the chronograph, causing errors.

[@jamesnunya7368]

What is "Spread"?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

It’s the difference between the shot with the lowest velocity and the shot with the highest velocity.

[@jackclark29]

Do they make a pellet for a 36 cal

[@stevenlawson9460]

Very good info thank you

[@celticdude4686]

Not convenient when the stores are closed and you don't know how to make your own powder and don't have the tools to measure out any powder.

[@sdolsay]

Maybe if your going to shoot black powder you should acquire the tool to measure out black powder, not trying to be a jerk, it just seems obvious. You can by that tool online, from Dixie, Taylors and other online retailers.

[@rwbimbie5854]

Also, baking cookies is not convenient when the stores are closed and you dont have flour or sugar or grow your own wheat. Although I figure if folks have been hobby shooting Cap'n Ball, or Baking Cookies, they would know you need Powder & Shot & Four & Sugar.. and get those things when they started doing the hobby.

[@motosportadv8177]

hey man where did you find those Pyrodex pellets i live in the northern part of Utah and those look like they only cost just a bit more than 1 lbs of pyrodex?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I bought them at the Sportsman’s Warehouse in South Jordan.

[@motosportadv8177]

Guns Of The West ok thanks 👍

[@GunsOfTheWest]

You’re welcome!

[@kevinbarnes5200]

I’ve heard people have used them for reloading .45 Colt and such. Have you ever tried that? I’m curious about trying it.

[@LarryTalbot_1313]

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? How would that even work? I don't think a pellet would fit into a cartridge. If it had to be crushed, then it would just be regular Pyrodex powder. Even if they did fit, they would have to be facing the right way to ignite properly. It would seem to me to be too many variables, unless someone already did all the footwork and mastered it!

[@kevinbarnes5200]

@@LarryTalbot_1313 I don't even know. I've read that others have tried it but I can't find any videos. It would be great to see that

[@LarryTalbot_1313]

@@kevinbarnes5200 I agree, it would be cool to see, but I think someone is pulling people's chain! The pellets are almost the exact size as the chamber so if the chamber is 45 and the cartridge is 45, that just won't work. The cartridge would have to be bigger than the pellet cal. The next size up is 50 cal. And I haven't seen any 36 cal. Pellets. That's just off the top of my head. There's more wrong with this but that would end up being a math lesson and we all hate those! I think someone is either trolling or powdered the pellets. Which is totally possible. But if they powdered the pellets, then why not just buy a pound of loose Pyrodex and save some of the high cost of the pellets?

[@kevinbarnes5200]

Larry Talbot www.shootingtimes.com/editorial/ammunition_hodgdon_0728/100508

[@Seahawksl1969]

Isn't there a variant of the pellets for .36 caliber 1858 Remington? I could have sworn there was, but I can't find any information now, after I bought a Pietta .36 caliber 1858 Remington.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Not that I’ve seen.

[@Seahawksl1969]

@@GunsOfTheWest Thank you. I'll stop looking for it then. I'll just get loose powder then. Which powder do you think is best overall for the 1858 New Army Sheriff with a 5.5" barrel in a .36 caliber?

[@katsomething3622]

if you like the convenience, the extra cost for the very few shots taken is minimal and probably worth the expense...... consistency is not important sense most of us are not trying to hold long range groups with a cap and ball so performance is not important. another words, it's all personal preference... that's it.