Q&A with Ray Cronise & Julieanna Hever - Part 1: Introduction to The Healthspan Solution

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Get links to everything mentioned in the video: bit.ly/KrockHealthspan Listen to our interview on Ray & Julieanna's podcast Science & Saucery: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5a4eGB-Zs6Vl7c Also check out healthspansolution.com & scienceandsaucery.com Subscribe to Science & Saucery on KZbin: bit.ly/YTSAS

[@AlexiHolford]

Krocks In The Kitchen thanks!

[@yentavegan8823]

Passover and CoVid19 have presented additional challenges to my goals. This video came to me at just the right time. Whew and thanks

[@riodejaneiro7675]

you don't give yourself enough credit - the most important videos that you made for me are the ones about yourselves! - I got plenty of books and authors telling me what to do and why but you guys have made a real difference in my life because you are showing me how to make it work - that's where it's at ;)

[@sharonmorley]

I love your channel! I have to agree with Ray... I turned off the TV 45 years ago and have never regretted it. I am an artist so I spend my time painting, playing musical instruments and learning through books, podcasts and youtube and I love it! I am so happy to hear of others doing that.

[@demesrvl6761]

Gave away my TV the day after Thanksgiving in 1989 and have only missed it for a couple of football games I wanted to watch. My home is so much more peaceful now!

[@martha_s]

What a fantastic video. I already can't wait for Part 2. This one is filled with such good information and inspiration. What a profound conversation between two pairs of people who are truly changing lives. I have admired Ray and Julieanna's work for a while and appreciated the opportunity this video provided to get to know them more as people - in terms of their productivity habits/timelines, their shopping and cooking routines, etc - and not only as the experts they are. They are both so articulate and empowering.

[@JulieannaHever]

Thank you so much!!!

[@robz.3225]

Love all 4 of you. Ray telling me I'm not broken was huge for me.

[@Carcarfranklin]

“I don’t even like how SOS ensues panic.” Okay I’m sold. 😆

[@JokerLurver]

Really enjoyed this long discussion :) Bought the book and I'm loving it! Appreciate the message of we're not broken, the average American diet is. Too true. I've made more progress since adopting this mindset.

[@jackiecallan2731]

Just found your channel a week ago. Started WPBF diet about 10 days ago. I'm still learning, but I'm down a little on the scale and am pretty sure body aches are less. Jessica your beauty glows and you look so much younger and healthier than on the shopping trip in your first video. Bryan, your face beams. I love the way you two interact and genuinely like and respect each other.

[@susanblackburn3191]

I loved this interview. I love their perspective that my way of eating isn't broken and I'm not in crisis mode if I'm not perfect. I can't wait to get their book!!! Thank you for the interview.

[@patelst9425]

This may be the video that turns my life around. Ordered "the book" and will see what I need to do to actually walk the walk instead of talk the talk. I have dozens of WFPB cookbooks and have read many other books on the subject and taken classes, but never really gone into it sincerely. This video was fantastic. Thank you.

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Wow Pat! Thank you so much! Stay tuned for Part 2 coming soon and I can't wait for you to get your book! :)

[@meghanbufton3273]

Wow this was so thought provoking and such a departure from Chef AJ who I think is really incredible -it’s interesting to have a different perspective thank you for sharing

[@juliashearer7842]

Interesting interview. Thank you. I am familiar with Julianna but not Ray. I won't be adding oil to my food though. Not after two years of no oil and a family history of heart disease. Perhaps if I was younger, had changed my diet sooner or really missed oil, I might consider adding oil now but I don't miss it one bit so from my point of view there is no point adding it. 😁

[@ellen3093]

They're recommending oil? ...

[@juliashearer7842]

@@ellen3093 As far as I understood it, Ray recommends it for flavouring dishes at the end of cooking only. Not for cooking food, just flavouring but as I said, why add something you don't miss? I occasionally do end up eating oil if I eat out but that is pretty rare and I don't enjoy it.

[@ellen3093]

@@juliashearer7842 I'm confused. Oil is one of the worst foods there is, why pour it over anything if you're health concerned.. and especially if you want to lose weight

[@juliashearer7842]

@@ellen3093 yes, me too. Apparently it is only added in very few recipes but why add it at all? Especially as the majority of the market they are aiming for are most likely oil free. It is a confusing message. Why not just leave it out of the recipes?

[@Tiffany-qs5rn]

@@ellen3093 He mentions to use a 1/2 teaspoon of toasted sesame oil for taste since it's so pungent, IF YOU WANT, on like 2 recipes.....not everyday, not every meal..."not pour it all over". Also you have a choice NOT to use oil....you know, free will and all. It's fine for people who don't have oil derangement syndrome.

[@lizanelson3296]

Omg you guys. Thank you SO much for having this available! I bought the book (quite) some time ago, and haven’t touched it! I started reading it last night, but hearing Ray and Julieanna is making it so much easier to read and making me want to get busy! WithOUT telling anyone! Looking forward to part 2!

[@jeanneallison9290]

My first comment. This was an absolutely fantastic episode packed chockfull of great information. Thank you so much for bringing it to us. You are wonderful Krocks!

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Thank you Jeanne! We really appreciate it!

[@maryandrusyk8702]

So happy to hear Jessica at 55:45 share about the organized grocery list! Who wouldn't do that with the shopping list?? I can go to ANY store (warehouse or local) and be done in

[@rnminster]

This is one of the best video's I have seen. Your live vid last night was tremendous. Keep doing these video's, your live vid's are always just fun. Thanks for inspiration.

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Thank you so much 🙏

[@annah5432]

Yes it is a choice and when Brian said the other day on the live “ you are an adult and you can make decisions for yourself” it clicked that yes I am and yes I can!

[@suegolddust2516]

Hi, I was so excited to see this video and can't wait for part two. I bought their book a few weeks ago per your recomendation. It is really good and I confess I went straight to the recipes 😃 now I'm going to read more of the science. The oil, garlic and salt at the end of cooking was a revelation. I also love that I'm not broken it's my plate. That makes it something I can take care of instead of feeling inadequate and hopeless. Thank you!!! All of you!

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Amazing!!! 💚🌱💚

[@eliseymarin3611]

Dear Brian and Jessica. Thank you for this Q&A with Ray and Julieanna. I love my new book that I just received yesterday.

[@rrhodes7594]

Great take away: Eat WFPB for 6 months and don’t tell anybody what you are doing. I’ve always told my husband or somebody, “okay, this is what I’m going to be eating...” Thank you for sharing ❤️

[@ellimacdz]

I bought this book because of this interview. So glad I did! What a fabulous cookbook and informational book!!!

[@kimtaylor9096]

You guys look good in bright blue! Thanks for sharing great content always

[@bobokay1]

I loved this video! Ray and Julieanna now feels like a human to me. I have healthspan but have not read it yet! Thank you so much!!!

[@bobokay1]

If you ever pass through New Mexico please IM me. There is a world famous vegan spot here!

[@jdwoods2008]

I bought The Healthspan Solution over the weekend based on your recommendation. I had heard of him through Kevin and Penn, but wasn't familiar with his exact message. Thanks for the great interview video.

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Thanks for checking it out Jeremy!

[@ayanahenry8821]

Happy Easter, Brian and Jessica!!! I love your channel:)

[@ZaiyaKai]

Julieanna Hever is absolutely beautiful. I love the fact that Ray Cronise sees TV as mindrot, I feel the same way and I do believe turning off the TV is a huge step toward a happy, peaceful life.

[@felixcorral7267]

There’s a psychoanalytic aspect to this conversation that’s missing. Many of us have turned to food as an addiction for our problems. Thanks to CrayRay, Penn, you guys and DDPYoga I’ve lost 70 lbs in the last year but like Jessica I’ve had my moments where I’ll go off the rails for 2-3 days. Until I mentally get right with whatever causes me to go to the junk food then I don’t think I’ll ever completely get away from food and the amount that causes me to become more obese.

[@char-pref]

In late 2017, Ray Cronise took/scammed over $88,000 (yes that's THOUSAND) dollars from Kickstarter backers for a book called "Our Broken Plate." Then he dropped off the face of the earth and gave no updates, no responses, nothing, to his backers. Basically took the $$ and went AWOL in a big way. This is what the latest Reddit commenter had to say (4 days ago), and I agree: "We're coming up on two years since Ray's last update...telling us there's no excuse for his silence. Meanwhile he's written and distributed two different books, bypassing this project entirely. No offer of compensation; no visible effort to get this book released. And quite frankly I'm no longer interested in what he's written or has to say about the matter as he's lost all credibility with me. If he can't show minimal human decency by keeping his financial backers up-to-date on the project then what he's written doesn't even matter at this point." Ray's behavior leaves a very bad taste in my mouth, no pun intended.

[@susandurandstone4278]

Interesting, maybe Jessica can find out about this? I’m reluctant to buy this book until that kickstarter is addressed.

[@patticurry565]

@@Smileeen Seems you are correct in your assumption. I see all his research is used in the book, The Lifespan Solution.

[@lizdevries2463]

Chapter one is called : Our Broken Plate

[@susandurandstone4278]

Awesome ! Thank you for the info! Great video!

[@rose8662]

Even if the first chapter is called "Broken Plate", that doesn't address all the people who invested in the original project, but are being left behind with nothing to show for the $$ they gave. To me, that issue and the question of his integrity are not resolved. 🤔

[@elenavalentino3889]

My favorite video that you’ve done, too! Can’t wait to see the next interview with Julianna and Ray. Glad to see a new approach on WFPB.

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Thank you!!

[@joanasaad4959]

Thanks for interviewing them. Always good to hear science behind what we are doing. With that said, I didn’t hear any “science” behind using oil for culinary reasons. Seems Science says oil reduces elasticity of our arteries for several hours after eating it according to Dr Esstylsen. Didn’t hear anything about that in this interview. Not sure I’m ready or should add oil for culinary purposes cause, afterall, aren’t we eating to help our health over and above taste? With that said, I am always looking for tasty recipes and I am sure they have some good ones!

[@meman6964]

Dr E said at AUTOPSY, the arteries of oil using vegan looks same as omnivores. All the blood tests tell what is moving in the blood (Keto get good blood numbers for a while) but autopsy is the ultimate test

[@beebe4418]

wow! I can hardly wait for pt. 2!! GREAT INTERVIEW.... loved all 4 of you!

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Thank you! 💚

[@michellegrantvaughn1561]

Perfect to come across this on New Years Eve.

[@plantbasedsweetheart]

Great video cant wait for part 2!!! Also I ordered the book can’t wait to get my hands on it 😁

[@ingridramirez4436]

Omg I bought the book today I am so happy. I saw the recipe's first because I need to buy a lot of things that I don't have at home .I have a lot of vegetables and fruits but I don't know where to start. I already lost 100 pounds 25 years ego, but you know age menopause the bagel around my waist etc.back paid osteoporosis fribromayal etc. Thanks

[@CarrieYoung887]

Yay! Just ordered the book - binge watching all of your videos - thank you for making plant based eating simple! I’ve been transitioning for a couple of years. ❤️ you guys!!!

[@oceanmermaid3700]

Excellent show!! Cant wait to read the book!

[@CrystalWilliams-ey7zj]

So glad you did this!! I am reading the book now!!❤️🌱

[@kourtneyswholesomelife5971]

I’ve never heard of them! I will checked out their book and content! Also; I also make my grocery list in the order of where it is in the grocery store. I also make sure to list it out in order that I shop it in, so I don’t miss an aisle and have to go back! :) great minds think alike!

[@IbnTufayl1]

This was great! Thanks so much for this interview!

[@PauliMoffatt]

This very interesting, Good for you guys for setting up this interview. I can't even figure out how you did such high-quality production, to make this video. Great information, great production

[@annah5432]

That is interesting about the one or two meals a day as I haven’t been hungry in the mornings and was wondering if I should make myself have breakfast. Not sure I can eat enough in one meal to sustain for the day though.

[@christinagarcia1189]

Loved the interview. Bought the book just now on Amazon!!

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Hope you enjoy it!!

[@pammccoy4331]

Important stuff in this interview. Excellent!!!

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Thanks Pam!

[@desertbluecatnm]

I will eventually watch this 90 minute video when I have a little more time. However, I have to say I'm looking forward to seeing you guys get back to regularly making recipe videos. I appreciate that you have other areas you want to explore, but I'm also remembering how excited you were about some of the meals you had in England, and how inspired you felt to re-create some of them. Your recipes are some of my favorites. I know Jessica has her spreadsheet with everything mapped out, so I will wait patiently. 😻

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

🤣 Brian says every day he wants to make more recipes. Unfortunately recreating things right now is difficult since access to ingredients is limited, but I promise he’s been working on some other recipes.

[@yelnats61]

I like Krocks’ audio and video setup best. Low key and more effective.

[@spanishwithrobyn]

Super great video. I really really really enjoyed it. Thank you.

[@janieakerlund3564]

Totally agree, TV is mind rotting! I've lived most of my 56 years without, including the last 13 years.

[@marcswart7868]

Thank you for the help and there is a lot to take in and put to practice,

[@Cheezyquackers2]

Great show! Thanks for answering my question about SOS and spices. I'm looking into getting some DAK'S right now.

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

I bought some for Brian :)

[@tunajune2382]

I got a choose-your-own 6-pack from the Dak's website and it arrived today. It looks perfect for changing up my basic hummus recipe. Go for it!

[@mtnlayde01]

Love love this info Brian & Jessica!!!!!!!!! You guys are great @ interviewing, wow 🤩. I’d never heard of the Healthspan Solution. I’m following the WFPB lifestyle for heath & we’ll being not so much for weight loss. So it’s refreshing to hear how Seasame oil can be used as a CULINARY accent to stir fry,,,, makes sense. Can’t wait for you guys to make some of the recipes 👍👍👍. I’ve had to watch ‘this video in segments since it’s long BUT I LOVE IT 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@senseofwonder4734]

YES!! This is life changing information!!

[@suerichards1685]

Ordering the book right now. I know I need this. I’m whole food plant based but are struggling knowing what\how to do\how much to eat. Thanks so much. ❤️

[@CB3ATHLETICS]

Went and watched the SoulTrain episode and you are right, no one was anywhere near today's "normal". Wow- back when fast food was a rarity and eating at home was the norm.

[@angelauk4]

Loved this. Don’t normally watch longer videos as it’s hard to fit them into day to day, but managed this one. You are both such lovely couples. Actually ARE they a couple??? Thank you. 🙏💜

[@Carcarfranklin]

I get the oil thing. And he gave a really great explanation of when and how it’s appropriate However- I do best with NO added oils. I really plateaued for many months when I had not let go of oil. Also, yes culinary techniques are fun- I 100% agree with this idea. I literally eat at restaurants enough and I’m fully aware of the oil that I’m consuming regularly even if I’m not eating oil at home. One more point on oil- maybe two, heart drs will say ZERO oil, and weight loss the fat you eat is the fat you wear. Ahhh okay LAST point on oil, EVERYTHING has oil. Extracting it and separating it from the whole part never works out in nature. God creates these things as a whole for a reason. I’m not even for CBD oil bc of that reasoning. Okay thanks!! Hahaha

[@bobafruti]

Cool interview, Found you through their podcast... it’s funny how much time you can spend saying “eat veggies they’re good for you.” 🤣

[@victoriaflatgard4826]

Ohhhhhh, I like this! I'm all in, and I'm going to get the book! Can't wait! I agree, you really are what you eat, I always thought that was something coy to say, but it's the truth! God talk about a slow study 🤷 and an " Aha!" Moment! What can I say, but I got it now!

[@sandracarli1110]

Not telling anyone about the way you want to eat to lose weight is a good advice, in my view. People tend to tell us we are fine as we are and do other things to make us change our mind.

[@mtnlayde01]

Yay I finally finished Part 1 !!!!!! 👏👏👏👏👏

[@dogbaker1]

great interview,thanks

[@lilivonshtup3808]

When you make your list in sync with the aisles of the grocery store you spend less money, even if you come home with something that's not on the list because when you backtrack, you pick up even more.

[@meman6964]

And that is why they rearrange the store every so often!! Marketing $$$

[@BethGrantDeRoos]

Great book for those of us who LOVE science and the history of food and culture. To few plant based books even cover science, food culture.

[@inlovewithhealth]

I cook very low fat and mostly oil free but one of my essential seasonings is toasted sesame oil.... you can't leave it out when trying to achieve the perfect flavor profiles in Asian cooking... a little goes a long way!

[@tunajune2382]

I bought the book a couple of weeks ago and I'm not gonna lie---- the first thing I did was turn to the recipes. But the second thing I did was to start reading from the very beginning. It takes some concentration but is well worth getting that background information first.

[@veganmamafourgirls5370]

Beautiful interview! What interesting perspective they bring to the plant based movement :)

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

💚🌱💚

[@marleri]

Good info. Six daily threes. Leafy green, cruciferous, nuts/seeds, legumes, fruits and other colored vegetables.

[@marleri]

Plus movement.

[@billiehanson3686]

Super good information ..Im the one who talked about this program called BLE Bright line eating and it's been in my brain messing with me..it's about food addiction. I am older 55+ and was strictly plant based for about 18 months but wasn't loosing weight. ANY way there is some great info here. Still struggling with weight (seriously just 25-30 Ibs) Going to probably add this book to my library.

[@laineybugger]

I just listened to Presto on Audible! I didn’t realize this was the same Ray, so cool!

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

CrayRay!!! 😃

[@natjenn33]

Wow Jessica, you look amazing in that dress!

[@francesgraham5411]

You certainly do look amazing in that lovely dress Jessica

[@MonaLisaSuperSize]

I don't have a TV either. Haven't for the last 31 years. How ever, found that I have to run from them 'cause they are everywhere!!! LOL. Thanks for a great interview; I am just starting WFPB.

[@1922mistyblue]

Very motivated!!

[@maryingram3249]

Brian and Jessica, you are inspiring me to believe I can finally change my life! Thank you everything, including bringing this interview to us! I just ordered the book😁. Bless you for all you are doing!

[@SelphExploration]

Love this!

[@renaeselix5648]

Thanks so much for this! Love u guys and your guests!

[@CassieDavis613]

When I was a kid, slim adults lived on coffee and cigarettes. Those folks would push the food around on their plates but not eat much of it.

[@shartmann2008]

Soul train!!! yes!

[@Carcarfranklin]

Jessica technically I can shop without a list, but I can’t make a list without it being in the same order of the store.

[@JessieCarty]

I enjoyed seeing the Krocks but not sure if I'm really a fan of some of the things Ray & Julieanna are sharing - maybe that is just my recovering eating disorder self that has a bit of trouble with some of the "rules" that I could see leading people down the path of disordered eating in the form of being "healthy"

[@meman6964]

Food Addicts react to food rules differently. Mind gets wrapped up in food all day, instead of having a life.

[@JessieCarty]

@@meman6964 Totally agree. I had to stop following some of the social media I previously liked because it was too triggering.

[@Carcarfranklin]

Love the not broken stuff. Okay going to bed. 🐊🐊🐊💚💚💚💚

[@Userhandle7384]

Awesome Interview

[@shartmann2008]

Disconnecting the TV was the best thing I ever did.

[@sreece0928]

I understand about the all or nothing attitude...I am just that way also. Thx

[@lgalina997]

It's not how long you live; it's how you live long.

[@bobafruti]

Lol, KFC ad right before this video 🤣🤣

[@tivoni]

Just bought their book!

[@teena4rl211]

Oxidative Priority is an excellent paper. It is truly a game changer with regard to understanding how macro nutrients are metabolized, and, most importantly, that carbohydrates are a vital, necessary part of a diet.

[@belindaknowles7440]

How do you fit in all that food in one meal? I'm being serious, not mean. I eat three meals a day and struggle to fit in everything that's recommended to eat. Thanks! Love your videos and look forward to the next!

[@JakeRoeder]

This is addressed in the book. You can also do a quick google search for "macroconfusion" which is a term that I believe both Ray and Julieanna coined. They talk a lot about that. The short version: Nothing will happen if you miss the daily recommendation for something or other for a day or two.

[@belindaknowles7440]

Thanks for answering so quickly! I'm going to have to get the book.

[@emilywilson7308]

Interesting!

[@4pearl]

Ok that is great one likes to cook and one likes to go grocery shopping. I hate grocery shopping, always have and I don't like cooking but I do it obviously. Any suggestions? My husband's idea of cooking is pre-packaged or take out.

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

Batch cooking. Spend 1 day cooking a bunch of food. 😀

[@4pearl]

@@KrocksInTheKitchen yes, I do that. Still don't like shopping or cooking. Would be nice to have someone do at least one of them lol Love you guys though!

[@Carcarfranklin]

Yes you’re kitchen is a movie set. Haha

[@susunslatky]

Wondering why grains are not one of the six 3’s?

[@OkieCam16]

At about 1:09:40 she mentions lots of great things about grains, but that they are "not unique nutritionally" so you add them into your diet after you've prioritized the other 5 categories that are "unique" nutritionally.

[@sugarbabylove1000]

Thanks KZbin for the galaxy chocolate ad LOL 🤣

[@KrocksInTheKitchen]

LOL

[@elizabethschouten1980]

I’m struggling so much. I have been trying to eat plant based for over 3 years and I seem to do perfectly is fail. But I don’t quit. I keep trying. I’m a foodie. With multiple health problems. And I need to lose 60 pounds. The problem is that I struggle to feel like I’m enjoying plant based food. I hate sweet potatos and kale and I feel like I make a recipe and end up throwing it away because I hate it. I just can’t seem to find food that I really enjoy so I fail over and over. Any advice on how to get the taste buds to change and adapt to the healthy stuff?

[@meanngirl]

Love Jessica's dress!!! ❤️♥️

[@Carcarfranklin]

Yes I love letting the brain rot. I agree with Julieanna.

[@moondog7694]

Sorry - Last time I wrote that Mary Giuliani kept off around 160 lbs for more than 10 years or so, but I forgot about her saying she had weight loss surgery. So, I think it was misleading, because if someone manages to maintain a huge weight loss for that many years, that is a lot more impressive if it's done without surgery than it is with surgery. I don't know if she had stomach stapling or a gastric band or what. Her website does have helpful info about ACEs and the book by Dr. Bessel Van Der Kolk "The Body Keeps the Score".

[@annah5432]

Moondog not really because if you look at statistics most people regain 50% of what the loose in the 1st year after weight loss surgery and some go in for a second one. I’ve seen a few people lately struggle after that 1st year

[@moondog7694]

@@annah5432 I've heard the host of Curvy Shrine say that it is possible to gain weight and re-strech your stomach after the stomach-reducing surgery, but I assumed it was a rare event. Can you give me some examples? Show me some videos or websites that show a person gained weight after this surgery.

[@annah5432]

Moondog www.melbweightloss.com.au/sleeve-gastrectomy-background.html If you read down this page it says it is a tool and you need to do dietary changes and list foods you cannot have, if you go back to old eating habits you can stretch it. Then in disadvantages it says that the sleeve will slowly get bigger over time. They also offer a revision surgery option. It is not a quick easy fix for life, you still need to change the habits of a lifetime. I used to think it was but after reading a bit and seeing some people get it I realise it isn’t.

[@ljm9092]

I need Variety, same thing, just adding something different. I like dinner at 4:00 PM

[@gramz-en3wb]

The hardest thing I had is that every recipe in most plant based books called for such different ingredients, many ingredients that were foreign and even tamari---most cookbooks were impossible. I just like down to earth, not like a professional cook would do, and getting an ingredient for one recipe and never used again. It did not help me get very plant based.

[@bobafruti]

Carolyn Miller you’re not wrong, Joel Fuhrman is great but all the weird ingredients... I can’t do it 🤣

[@CassieDavis613]

I eat the way Plantiful Kiki does. Very simple and flavorful. I burned out on all the recipes. I don't like cooking but I like watching cooking.

[@Carcarfranklin]

😍😍 that dress!!

[@Carcarfranklin]

Garlic at the end is key. So many reasons.