QuakeCon 2001 Grand Final: ZeRo4 vs Fatal1ty - Quake 3 Arena Duel t4 ztn 4k 1080p

[@braedenloepke1413]

Its so nice to see this stuff in 60fps man. Thanks for posting these and keep it up :D

[@TheVanillatech]

+Braeden Loepke I found my old DVD's from the early/mid 2000's the other day. A total of 21GB of Quake 3 OSP demos. Practically every game from every tournament from many different POV's. Eurocups, WCG, C58 invitationals as well as Jolt League and Barrysworld demos. Problem is I can't get Shadowplay to record OpenGL in Quake III. So I can watch them but I can't record with Shadowplay. What is the best way to record them? I would upload them all over time if I knew (and if it's easy).

[@lidistus1340]

+TheVanillatech Have you tried using the desktop option for recording?

[@TheVanillatech]

Lidistus I don't have a desktop recording option in the UI in Shadowplay. I used to have the option last year when I owned a GTX970, but then I moved over to AMD for a while. Having recently got a GTX980 and installed Geforce Experience again, I don't have an option to enable desktop recording now! :/

[@lidistus1340]

TheVanillatech Well there are two things i would suggest at this point. Either the Loilo Game Recorder (I havent used this one much but it pushes out good quality) or OBS.

[@TheVanillatech]

Lidistus I need something free and easy to use. I have a LOT of demos worth uploading and I don't have time for tinkering. I'll try to uninstall my driver and geforce experience and download the latest versions. Maybe my update function is broken. It has been acting strange in the system tray for a few weeks now I think about it.

[@CynicznyBrutal]

Damn its been 20 years. I miss these good old times, playing quake with my friends in inernet cafes and lans.

[@sematic1]

right!

[@Lawrence417]

REAL ESPORT

[@nicholasfazzolari3647]

Oh the memories.

[@JDMvids1105]

Ahhh, These were the days. When men actually aimed in the games they played.

[@YodaMan-420]

this is why quake champions doesnt need to be overwatch. the class abilities need to go.

[@jacobkline6146]

ROFL THE ADDED REVERB TO THE AUDIO IS CRAZY

[@miguelpereira9859]

That was some serious ownage on the first match

[@alittax]

Thanks for the uploads! :) Could you please upload some more Fatal1ty POVs?

[@capobilotti]

@2:12 the moment that renamed this map from Q3-Tourney4 to Q3-Zero4 edit: my most favourite mat (no camping like DM6), where game was heading could have changed in 5 seconds, and while having a good day, I could dominate with 60% railgun. edit2: love how Zero for died while his body fell on MEGA ... I forgot this moment.

[@dariobutelli4243]

What a bad performance for Fatal1ty

[@snzStorm]

Did he ever win anything in today's Quake?

[@dariobutelli4243]

snzStorm I don't believe, the last championship he won was in 2006, but in 2001 was one of the best with Zero4, Aim, Socrates and someone else

[@TheVanillatech]

snzStorm Fatality dominated in his time. He was light years ahead of the competition, and his talent was so high he could adapt to any FPS game and dominate that within a matter of weeks, which of course he did. The problem with Quake 3 was it has the highest skillcap of any game ever, and it attracted the best FPS players from the world over. When Fatal1ty realised he was going to have to work harder to keep on top he took the easy option and changed game. That is why he is a millionaire. No one can doubt his skill. He used cross jump straffe, didn't have any weakness and had incredible aim and game awareness. But Zero4 is just a mean motherfucker, and was reknowned for being almost unbeatable on T4. Unkind was the only player to come close to beating a prime Z4 on that map. That was an amazing game, they warmed up on it in a practice for about 15 which really built up the tension, before taking a game. It was great to watch.

[@justsomeguy8385]

+Victor Katilis How does showing respect and using reason make someone a fanboy?

[@ultra1obscene]

+TheVanillatech "The problem with Quake 3 was it has the highest skillcap of any game ever, and it attracted the best FPS players from the world over." i would have to strongly disagree with that comment. Quakeworld and CPMA have a higher skillcap

[@ComedyKraze1]

ahh the times of ball mouse some people don't even know what that is lol

[@josephpolk9660]

I'm new to watching Quake videos, but from what it looked like, ZeRo4 had better aim and map knowledge, while Fatal1ty had better movement. Is that an accurate assumption?

[@drcpaintball]

i played hundreds of hours on the ztn3tourney map and I can tell that Zero4 knows the map much better than fatality. Fatality goes into a whole bunch of "killbox" spots

[@nanoSpawn]

Zero4 was one of the first "positional" players. While his aim was insane, he understood the maps very well and "invented" tricks that were adopted by everybody else, like feinting movement using jumpers, opening doors with a bullet just to make a distracting sound, etc. This helped tons against Fatality, who was an uber defensive player that just hid in the map searching for spots to kill the opponent easily, few could read this defensive playstyle, but Zero4 did. Fatality movement needed to be excellent because of that, he'd jump from spot to spot trying to always be in the defensive, Zero4 would just look for his opponent playing mind games.

[@Cataflexia]

That's very nostalgic! Snif! I've noticed that the demo don't have kick shoot when the enemy shoots to you. What command does it?

[@moejoe2949]

Quake 3 is still running believe it or not, Put in the old CD and it's updating Maps, New Maps on 2 Servers, I'm playing only one other player, CHECK IT OUT Quakers, Frag Ya Later!!!

[@HollowRick]

I'm currently playing quake live but I'm glad quake 3 arena is still going :D

[@miguelpereira9859]

@@HollowRick Still playing Quake 3 I'm even part of a clan lol

[@HollowRick]

@@miguelpereira9859 very nice 👌

[@yogine]

can someone explain that 4k resolution in 2001 ? i thought 720p the best resolution at that time

[@eirin099]

Its a demo, which is basically just a file that has all the movement, shooting etc. recorded and you can play it back. basically an interactive video. since its not a videofile he can play this back at any resolution he wants and change camera angles etc.

[@patlefofort]

At 3:18, how in the world does he know he's gonna be there?

[@dannyboyz7061]

Sounds, and playing a crap ton. An educated guess.

[@KretinoSantino]

He didn't spawn at the railgun side, he wouldn't be going through middle of top floor with just plasmagun ... sound of upper door openning ... obvious move from Zero4. Don't forget, this map is Pro-Q3Tourney4 ... commonly known as Pro-Q3Zero4.

[@TheRealSquidgy]

Also, you can hear him taking the jump pad up to top floor. As he walked into the central chamber, he knew that his opponent heard him enter the room, and that it was likely he was gonna peek. It was an educated guess that led to a shot he was ready to make. Opportunity = skill + luck!

[@kickahaw]

back during Q2 days lol there was a group that kept track of players FPH does anyone know there name and does the info still accessible ?

[@horaciomoran4136]

i was expenting to see a battle here

[@JDM_000]

Anyone notice the poor usage of the lg? Not only it is being used rarely, but also plasma is preferred instead in some stations. Just a different play style overall!

[@SpocksBro]

Lg? There is no lg spawn in that map.

[@yufgyug3735]

no abilities, no bullshit. just skill.

[@ytanonymity3585]

Zero4 was the best player and also the WCG 2001 champs at this time.

[@ruslanshtepin7802]

26:01 "sj baby" WHAT

[@paultarasenko]

2020 here :)

[@HollowRick]

2021 here :D you know you're an OG if you're looking for videos like these

[@fulltimepassgiri]

Fatality plays with your senses :)

[@LunicMusic0]

This match just truly shows that, they are way more players than Fatal1ty and the others like toxik etc etc... they just have a great advertise. and recording they whole life to show up some "good" sometimes.

[@fl4k880]

can you tell me where you find these weapon skins?

[@decebal01US]

The weapon skins are modified version of the files I found online on ModDB. Here are my sources: HD Textures ioquake3.org/2010/08/24/high-resolution-creative-commons-texture-replacement-pack/ Weapon Textures www.moddb.com/mods/metal-tech-v20-revolutions HD Icons and Fonts www.moddb.com/mods/high-quality-quake/ Quake 2005 Revolution www.moddb.com/mods/quake-2005-revolution Chili Quake XXL www.moddb.com/mods/chili-quake-xxl All I did is add some additional scratches and blend them with other textures in Photoshop.

[@rswpt]

he plays like he is always watching where fatality is at every point in the map, nC hook maybe?

[@nanoSpawn]

Hope you're sarcastic. These were LAN games in the Quakecon, in the competition computers, with on site referees checking players screens at all times. It was absolutely impossible to use hacks.

[@nanoSpawn]

He used sound cues and experience/knowledge. He also played static to disturb Fatality's defensive flow, so instead of moving, he'd remain static.

[@rswpt]

@@nanoSpawn i am very sorry, i honestly thought it wasnt LAN with refs on site, i apologise.

[@nanoSpawn]

@@rswpt No need to apologize, but your comment kind of surprised me. Just wanted to make sure no one would think Zero4 was using hacks or anything.

[@pantyukovk]

20 лет.

[@retro5700]

would have been the easiest $30,000 nowadays

[@gr4ve789]

Like from 2019

[@xratio3738]

Best game in world

[@zhuomingyang9230]

Oh yeah

[@marten4975]

What's with the camping? I thought this was a fast paced arena shooter?

[@ShotOfSelf]

Different game modes, this is duel. Check out some FFA. that’s what you’re looking for.

[@erazorCTF]

enabled s_reverb and s_chorus is making me mad watching this :D

[@paultarasenko]

Fatal1ty didn’t know what is thinking

[@dakodakote3031]

he try better luck in quake4 getting the game few months before everyone with his fatality soundcard,remember?but ppl seat him in his place :=))=))))

[@steve1982n]

Pure skill no shit

[@raqcem99]

Fatal1ty got destroyed. I dont remember z4 being this good but he just dominated. Fatal1ty missing easy jumps, rail shots, item timing... surprised he made it to the finals. memories tho

[@nanoSpawn]

Zero4 changed the game, is not that he was this good, dude changed the meta on his own, literally. He was like the first pro player feinting and playing positionally rather than trusting it all on his aim while playing defensively. Many of the things he did were adopted by everybody else, even the russians.

[@eclipsegst9419]

Fat rolled Zero4 at first, but Zero was the first player to really learn his opponents, and he learned Fatality too. I still wish Fat had stuck around or returned to Live, the guy is still great at the game i watched him stream QL a few months ago and he was just casually hitting 360 rails to finish CA matches which were basically just the entire other team trying to frag him for the clout.

[@vitalyzagrebelnyy5903]

That's why i don't understand why Fatality is the greatest player of all times. He sucked in q3 and jumped to unreal/doom/etc. When he sucks he jumps to an another discipline where no more strong opponents are

[@miguelpereira9859]

Yeah I don't get why he is considered the undisputed goat of Quake 3 he earned more money playing Painkiller than Quake

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@miguelpereira9859 Nonsense. Fatality was someone with the raw skill to be better than 99% of players at a new game out of the gate. He would master a game mechanically and win, and then look for the next big thing rather than hold off the inevitable people that will totally master the game with years and years of practice. Both of those things are admirable in their own way. But i really miss there being a guy like Fatality in existance. Nobody nowdays is winning in multiple games at the pro level like he did.

[@miguelpereira9859]

@@eclipsegst9419 Well there is Shroud nowadays but he doesn't really play in the pro scene. But gaming also used to be smaller back then

[@eclipsegst9419]

@@miguelpereira9859 Yea Shroud is similar. He won't play AFPS though even just to stream. I remember he watched the QC trailer and said he might play Instagib but never did. But it is true that stepping into Quake now is alot different than stepping in when it was new. The skill gap the old players hold is massive.

[@Alex-tw3rq]

я на это один смотреть не могу? Договорняк высшей степени! Что б Фаталити вот так на ZTN как бот 3 уровня двигался и ничего не попадал? что за бред?

[@zolotayadeva]

точно точно, я тоже глазам не верил

[@isaiah4465]

akuta.proboards.com hosts a lot of these videos

[@diggingga6197]

I see how fatality earned his name.

[@AS-xy3eu]

So strange to see fatality's ass being kicked... zero4 rail is imbalance :)

[@Alex-tw3rq]

кровь с глаз течет от такой игры, да я лучше играю - что он творит???

[@dakodakote3031]

fatality the most overrated player in the world.Good to be the first players but when he saw all the new players ran like a rat to other games to win money.gg

[@shaftlamer]

fatality and his trash movement lol

[@rept1le]

fatality so bad. these days everyone beat him

[@Prophallus88]

Stupid idiot. Except that he got to the finals and was placed second best in the whole tounament, haha.

[@ДмитроКононенко-о6п]

И чемпионы? Да пацаны в клубах играли быстрее и азартнее, чем это УГ.

[@kickahaw]

back during Q2 days lol there was a group that kept track of players FPH does anyone know there name and does the info still accessible ?

[@ph4ntas]

I remember a great player I think the name was purri