Quarter Saw Stumps for Removal with Porta Power Hydraulic Ram Jack

[@Willy12927]

Stump removal has evolved from the time I went to visit my future wife some 55 years ago. Her Dad told me that he was going to remove some stumps and invited me to go to the hardware store with him where he purchased a quantity of dynamite, which he took and placed under a stump. When he lite the fuse, he yelled, " Run Like Hell" after which there was a loud explosion and a large stump laying up on the ground. Those were the days.

[@warthogA10]

My brother in law used his old station wagon to pull stumps 😂

[@Willy12927]

Doesn't surprise me. Those old sttion wagons were built like tanks.@@warthogA10

[@ronfox5519]

Since he bothered to warn you, I think we can assume you made a good impression on him.

[@joshuaimoe]

Let me save you 12 minutes and 31 seconds that I can't get back... the harbor freight hydraulic spreader did not work. He pulled them out with a backhoe attachment on a tractor. You're welcome.

[@larrywimpee609]

Thank you!

[@robfra7860]

I wish i read your comment earlyer. 12 minutes down the drain

[@Billy-burner]

Damn it. This is why I should always read comments first. God I miss the dislike button.

[@bradleyferguson2710]

I was 12 minutes and 31 seconds late on reading this.

[@acpote]

Thank you.

[@mariofilippi3539]

Thanks, really enjoyed your video.Dug out many stumps in my lifetime. I found using a Milwaukee reciprocating saw with a long Diablo pruning blade helps when cutting lateral roots to loosen it up. However some stumps have a taproot that's virtually impossible to cut. Glad you got that stump out finally.

[@reprintranch]

Yes, sir. Last spring I was certain I could take out a 24-inch diameter pine stump (freshly cut) with just a reciprocating saw, old pair of loppers and a trenching shovel. Ha ha, not quite. I dug down 5 feet and cut away every single root except the tap root. The tap root was darn near 24 inches and there was absolutely no safe way to cut through it while standing in the excavation, and no way to get at it from surface level. I finally decided to fill in the hole and let the stump rot for a couple of years. Once the wood softens a bit I’ll try busting up the top part with an ax, sledge and wedges.

[@pqworks9019]

I dug out a stump from an old dead tree last year and it was an absolute pain. I had to use a mattock to dig around it and I used an axe and a recip saw to break some of the big roots up, then my dad had to come in and break the rest of the stump up with a chainsaw. He had to sharpen the chain up so many times. Finishing that job was one of my greatest achievements haha. Great job!

[@KylerKreates]

Ive never seen this way to remove a stump before and I love it

[@budrice3333]

Hard hat and safety glasses are a must when you are demonstrating technical information to people who are looking to learn

[@Mia-xr5lm]

At least he didn't hav flip flops or Crocs on thank God... He should know better. Real men are smart as well as tough.

[@free_at_last8141]

Gotta love those Harbor Freight backhoes.

[@garydevries5961]

I would try digging a circle around it with the backhoe. The Roots should be easier to break at 2-3 ft out. After that all that is left is usually the Taproot which can usually be toppled with the excavator.

[@hunterroberts2260]

Great Video. I love when other folks try to tell you how to do something.

[@gorgeoutdoors]

That's the best comment on KZbin. Thanks for keeping it real. Thanks for watching.

[@canoe365]

I worked out a method: I leave at least 15 feet of tree attached to the stump for leverage, then dig a six inch deep trench around the base of the tree. I fill the trench with water and keep adding water for three days, I get the entire area soft and muddy. I then attach a chain to the top of what's left of the tree, fifteen feet up. I put another chain onto the base of a healthy tree at least 10-20 feet away, then use a winch or come-a-long to attach the two chains. I pull the stump tree over toward the healthy tree, which pulls roots up out of the ground on the far side of the tree. I use a pressure washer to wash dirt, rocks etc off the roots, then cut them with a chainsaw. If I have another healthy tree on the other side I pull the tree back that way and wash off then cut roots. If there's no way to pull it the second way I just keep going the first direction, it's more work but does pull the roots out where I can wash them off and cut.

[@kaybag698]

What a Guy just a genius at work! Made this so easy with this ingenious idea, I’ve got a rose bush & gonna try this idea out on it.

[@starman6092]

The quarter method with a backhoe is a winning combination. Nice!

[@brentharrell]

“You had a tractor with a backhoe this entire time?” -Lloyd Christmas

[@mrhemi1985]

Exactly 😂😂😂😂😂

[@matthewrhoades5156]

You should considering using some kind of PPE when you fire up the chain saw.

[@philwalden6166]

He did an excellent job explaining the quarter system. I did the exactly the same thing without paying a lot of money to rent a back hoe and messing up my yard.

[@tymz-r-achangin]

Cool video! In all of the tree stumps me and my dad has removed over the past 40 years, there's not one time that it didnt advantage us to leave the stump no less than 3 feet tall. That extra height is nice leverage when pulling it out with either farm equipment or come-alongs

[@Buddha-of8fk]

My buddy has been burning his stumps. We use the technique of breaking out a couple camp chairs and a cooler of ice cold beer. Sometimes we have a lot of help.

[@RobertThorne-pz8tq]

Neighbor and I got rid of two big ol pine stumps in two weekends by drilling holes starting fires and maybe locking throttle on the leaf blowers.

[@RobertThorne-pz8tq]

My bad, 3 cases of beer I believe

[@Buddha-of8fk]

@@RobertThorne-pz8tq It's a lot of work.

[@williemanillie4974]

Those Harbor Freight backhoes work wonders!

[@PlumdogMilli0naire]

“You can’t do much with a 1/2” stroke” I beg to differ! One kid later 😅

[@randyjennings7507]

I've been cutting down trees and removing stumps for 20 years. That's first time I seen somebody try to use a hydraulic tool to spread the stump apart. Best way to remove tree stumps best to use a ripper attachment on an excavator or back of a tractor. Go all the way around the stump cut the roots deep and then pull it out.

[@vashon100]

I saw vs I seen

[@todydn]

I disagree tanerite is the best way because its the funnest

[@travelinventor9422]

Cutting it low, drilling holes, soaking it with oil,then burning it with a bottomless barrel around it works great

[@jeffreybell7015]

I found a trick that seems to help with this approach: Digging the dirt, rocks and the like is a lot of work and is tedious. What I tried is a really good power washer, 4,000 psi and 4.2 GPM. I used it to blast as much of the dirt and related stuff that ruins chains. Then I let it dry for a couple of days. After that I was able to cut the stump low enough so that my riding mower could go over it without issue. My chain lasted for 10 stumps, averaging 24" diameter. Without the power wash step, I had to sharpen the chain after a single stump. BTW, these were pine and fir trees.

[@sofjanmustopoh7232]

That is a lot of fun . Love the idea of keeping some of the junk chain. I’ll keep that in mind for my next project . Sharpened Junk chain for dirty work

[@RonElam-c6g]

Interesting. Thanks. Shows the most important tool is determination.

[@alanratay4583]

If you’re digging anywhere don’t forget to get locates. That tree could have grown around a power line, a gas line, a water line, telephone, CATV.

[@gerardjohnson2106]

I once bought a new L48-TLB. It was the finest machine I've ever owned. Awesomely versatile. I'd buy another one today if I could afford it. 😢

[@FadeToBlack80]

Damn near every comment, telling this man, "how to do it properly" apparently missed the point of the video... He's demonstrating the QUARTER CUT method....

[@philwalden6166]

You are exactly correct, and he did an excellent job explaining the quarter system. I did the exactly the same thing without paying a lot of money to rent a back job and missing up my yard.

[@Gruuvin1]

Awesome video for how to dull your chainsaw.

[@kennethbrown8723]

I think what we learned is to remove a stump, you best have a backhoe!😮

[@thetigerstripes]

I dug them out by hand - 37 total from 8” dia to 30” dia.😊 Dig a circular trench around the stump. When you hit a root radiating away from the stump, cut the root at the farthest point from the stump. I used a double-bit axe. Then cut the root at the side of the trench closest to the stump. Continue digging in a circle and cutting roots until all the remains is the main tap root. The stump will fall over in it’s side exposing to main root. Cut the main root, drill and install an eye-bolt into the stump and drag it out of the hole with whatever by attaching chain to the eye-bolt you installed. BTW - remove eye-bolt and save it for the next stump. Fill in the hole. Yes, it’s a lot of work. Yes it does a good job. No, nothing grows back later. This technique is not recommended for those who fear hard work. 😂 The vehicle I used for dragging the stumps out of-the hole was a 1980 Ford Galaxie station wagon w/ 460 CID and Holley 750 CFM 4 bbl.; dual exhaust + 4 degrees advance on cam. You will need something with torque, not revs.

[@allkindsofoutdooractivities]

That was fun to watch! Thanks for sharing

[@Technoanima]

I still can't believe people still haven't figured out digging beneath the stump and some charcoal to create a Dakota fire hole to burn out a stump.

[@PaulDanielson-x4u]

That's good dirt for sawin,great line I'm using it thank you.great video dude.

[@rickhofsess84]

The most useful tools in the world: chainsaw, welder & backhoe.

[@jackofall2305]

Jesus you guys must be super fun to hang out with, you all cant tell this was just him messing around to make a video. Im sure hes dug out plenty of stumps in his life. And yeah speaking from a guy with a similar kubota backhoe the size of the hole needed to just straight dig those stumps out with that little breakout force would be huge

[@gorgeoutdoors]

Well spoken, thanks for watching.

[@squirrellyacres]

It's a very interesting video showing how to do it manually. It's a good thing you had the backhoe

[@shawnearly6786]

You look like a hard worker and know what your are doing. Get yourself some ear plugs please, trust me on this.

[@jorge31415927]

After seeing this, I am now 100% convinced that I just need to get a tree stump grinding service.

[@15DurangoRT]

No stump grinder rentals in your area?

[@dirkdiggler2052]

Safety gear is not required with chainsaws and stumps.

[@F-Bomb313]

As a teen, I got angry at a tree stump, took me 5 days, but I eventually got it out using a sawz all with huge blades, shovel, pick axe, axe, crowbar, and a jack......

[@ronaldpalmer451]

Porta powers come in various strengths and with various attachments ,I had a ten tonne one ,it was for using on cars ,but it was very handy for other things as well ,

[@goatrancher9kinder]

You had me interested until you brought in Big Bertha the Backhoe! Ha ha

[@katz4248]

No matter what, its easy when you gave a backhoe.

[@lawman5511]

In about 1951 I watched my uncle eliminate a stump in his newly cleared field in West Virginia. Drilled a hole with a hand auger. Dropped a stick of dynamite in, packed it with wet clay. I got to turn the switch. WHEW,

[@JoelMahlman]

An uncle of mine did the same thing inside city limits in the mid 60s. Was really cool to see the stump jump. Cops showed up. He pulled out his license. He got 2 more jobs. 👍👍

[@beaversstumpgrinding3352]

Thanks for the entertainment. Very amusing!

[@davejoseph5615]

I'd like to try the "rocket stove" approach where you make a bore cut from the top down and then another bore cut at the bottom for air and then get a fire going.

[@johnsmith-xr6qy]

Yeah, with the grain or across. You're just dividing and conquering the stump. That backhoe would not remove the whole stump at least not so easily. I think you're on to something. Keep old chains handy for dandy stumps! Thanks for the experiments.

[@DoingItCheap]

You are so right !!! I can't do much with a half inch stroke. 😎😜🤪😝

[@clutch5sp989]

It may only be 1/2" long, but it's THIS big around.

[@nettle99]

always wonder why people need to get the whole stump out? I always just cut it down to a few inches below soil level then just cover it back up.

[@Scubbydogdubby]

Same here

[@todd8188]

Cos it rots leaving a big depression within couple yrs

[@tangowiskey4740]

Very nice study never observed the actual root ball of a tree in quarters . Thansk

[@takenursht8701]

Tip is hot because the moment that blade touched dirt it dulled it. You cannot touch dirt at all with a chainsaw

[@JoeMalovich]

Thank you for the entertaining and insightful video. I wonder if there's a ram out there that has a long stroke, but two little fingers that stick off the side to spread things apart. You might also look at Hydraulic felling wedges.

[@KarlH1980]

I have a question that is not a judgmental question, just a curious one. Why not cut it lower and burn it out? Time?

[@jumperstartful]

Wonder same thing??

[@watsonrk1]

Theres 12 minutes and 30 seconds I'll never get back!

[@adamelliott2302]

So much good wood in those 1/4's!

[@daltondunn7856]

This guy's shaking hands with danger using those wedges that have mushroomed that far...

[@sunriseboy4837]

Love your work, brother!

[@kevinnobody3052]

You could use a porta power with a wedge end on it instead of pounding wedges.

[@bg147]

Well, you utilized intelligence and raw power. Most people just go with raw power. Very few use only intelligence.

[@chrissparlin2971]

"With a half inch stroke, your not getting anywhere". I beg to differ, sir.... :)

[@russellsmith3825]

That's what she said

[@davidcox9115]

Best to give a call to the stumb grinder he'd be out of there in a few.

[@wazowski6709]

I don't bother breaking my back anymore. I cut a bit below soil level, cover with thick layer of cardboard & mulch over the top, letting the rest turn into worm food.

[@prebaned]

Destroyed chains and removed with backhoe. You're welcome.

[@bambambundy6]

I've always drilled deep holes dumped used oil in and burned it, but I've never had one close to the house.

[@Patrick_Gray]

Hi, thanks for the video. Yesterday I cut the bottom out of a 55 gallon burning barrel/drum. Thought it might work for burning stumps or roots. Plan to try burning some roots on the surface where I park my camper, about 30 feet from the tree. Is there a way you can kill roots with out killing the tree? Thought about cutting the root and then dealing with the end away from the tree.

[@eightknots425]

Very well explained, Thanks

[@chrissunde1104]

Why would you do this without eye protection?

[@Alanrayc1957]

On the head of that steel wedge grind of the flared parts where you have been hitting the wedge, I saw a piece splinter off a steel wedge one time and it struck him in the neck like a 22 bullet and lodged next to his jugular vein in his neck, very dangerous my friend

[@shrillcarder]

Been there myself!

[@treeguyable]

Been cutting trees , making/ sharpening chains, 34 yrs. Had a Stihl 066, with a chain that had teeth ground down like that, man, it was sharp and fast. Had to take the depth guages way down, but, it cut good.

[@rogernelson9029]

Dig around the stumps base, outward in a circumference of two to four feet and to a depth that exposes the roots. Using a reciprocating saw, sever the roots from the stump. Once the stump is free, you can either pull it out with a vehicle or other piece of equipment or cut it up in manageable pieces. Wedges are helpful in the latter approach. No chemicals, no extended wait periods, no ruining expensive chainsaw blades, and no above ground remnants. What rremains is just a hole in the ground created by a little hard work.

[@hermanfelderhof5305]

Yes I agree, that's pretty near the same way I do it too. There are no stump grinders within a day's drive from where I live so I have to do things myself. The easiest way I have found so far is to dig around the base of the stump and either break the radial roots with a crowbar or or cut them with a reciprocating saw depending on their size and then pull the tap root straight up. I get a chain around the base and then lift the tap root straight up with hi-lift jacks because that's the equipment I have. But quartering the stump is another idea that might be worth a try too, especially for big stumps. Thanks for the video Gorge. I really enjoyed watching it and learning. :)

[@TheArtOfHomeownership]

I did this but used snatch blocks to amplify the force.

[@AB-ot3bc]

With only a half inch stroke you won’t get far “THAT’S WHAT SHE SAID”😂

[@robertippoliti5186]

why did'nt you use the backhoe in the first place?

[@johnbarbuto5387]

Fun and games - for all those with a backhoe sitting around.

[@skiffintherift9179]

use some angle iron on both sides for the jack to push off of. reblock and add a few more shims

[@otisbledsoe8281]

0😅9 😊

[@rts3613]

This is the way to do it for most homeowners, quarter the stump and then use the backhoe hanging on the garage wall to pull it out. Lol In all seriousness, the quartering works great if you have a tractor, backhoe, skidsteer... and have room to get to it. If not, you're probably renting or hiring a stump grinder or burning if you can get away with it. I hate being a city slicker, the country boys have the best toys.

[@chadrogers4635]

The best and easiest way is quarter it down to ground level and burn it like a Swedish torch. It will burn just about all of it and your won't have a big hole.

[@madcapsportsgarage9761]

The porter power tool you were using has a short stroke, but after you got it wide enough: you could put blocks in front of it to make it go wider.

[@ninji5226]

SOOO when in doubt, just use a $30,000 backhoe, simple!!!

[@julianreid8179]

always leave a stump long.. more leverage to pull with...

[@julianreid8179]

put shims betewwn the ram end and stump (steel plate)...

[@davidbwa]

I've used porta power units that had more than 7/16 travel. but lacking that, you could use some metal plates as spacers. Spread, back off, insert plate, spread again, repeat.

[@outdoorzone]

Timber cutting charge with c4 would of done it in!!!

[@gorgeoutdoors]

I like your style.

[@larrywimpee609]

I typically cut straight across as low as I can. Then get the plunge cut it in quarters so I get the tap root too. Finish with sawzall to save the chain.

[@spektrum426]

I think the video title should have been, "stump removal with tractor" ...

[@marcosmota1094]

Good fun and taught us some things

[@user-zq6pj5jo8j]

You put that stroke in the right spot, You can do a lot with a 1/2" stroke.

[@Ka_Gg]

Guess i'm naive on this, but since you already have the dirt dug down a little lower, why not just cut horizontally but lower than the normal ground level? Then, just cover on top with dirt.

[@reesesalen5033]

It'll rot over time and make a hole

[@Ka_Gg]

@@reesesalen5033 gotcha. Makes sense.

[@Magnusintro]

Stump grinder is undervalued. Blew through a good carbide chain and 2 hours. Hired a stump grinder. 15 minutes.

[@sunnydays4966]

Number 2 since don't have track hole I would just cut it a few inches below grade put the dirt back watch weeds grow. And cut the lawn.

[@tommak6516]

I agree, plus cut a checker pattern on the top with the chainsaw before you cover it to help it rot.

[@tangledline]

Ughh man..I have to deal with one just like the 2nd stump you pulled. I have a Stihl 390 and ima put her to the test. I'm digging the safety Nazis down below. After you reach a certain age...Some of us pass the speed limit, drink liquor and actually shit in the woods...others..not so much. Thanks for the tips!

[@gorgeoutdoors]

Glad you enjoyed the video

[@joshuapaul349]

Proof that just because you can buy a big saw doesnt mean you know what your doing with it.

[@dwhallon21]

I like rhe quartering, with rhe backhoe it really worked both ways. The hrsrualic didnt. Seem like it did mach

[@b5maddog]

Fun to watch! Thanks! Reminds of a tooth I tried to wiggle out 🦷 😮

[@kaihui1965]

I bet you didn't quarter saw your tooth first

[@firstmkb]

@@kaihui1965you beat me to it!

[@harrygrimley4352]

Has anyone heard about the stump grinder from general rental?

[@emiliolio1948]

El mejor y mas sencillo metodo que arrancar tocones. Basicamente dividir en 4 partes el tocón hace que este se debilite mucho Al dividir el tocon nos demuestra la devilidad del conjunto y hace que con muy pocas herramientas realice un gran trabajo que por otros metodos he podido ver que se requiren grandes maquinas..FELICIDADES

[@crazyobservations3080]

Stump grinder guy only costs like $200. 15 minutes per stump and done. Not sure why anyone would even do this.

[@Roboticgladiator]

Around here it's $150 per stump. That adds up in a real big hurry if you have a bunch of stumps.

[@JoeR203]

I saw a video where they used an old truck tire (on a rim) and put the tread side against the stump and pulled the chain that was around the stump, over the tire and hooked to a truck and they pulled it out effortlessly. And it wasn't a small stump.

[@handimanjay6642]

If you’re not in a hurry, drill 3/4-1” bore holes near the base at an angle. Fill holes with epson salt, moisten the salt, try and keep it damp, cover with a heavy dark tarp. Depending on the wood it will break it down in 3 months to a year.

[@JR-o7d]

Use the long ram with the two right angled shoes, one on the end of the ram the other on the same end of the cylinder, you will produce much more force and have the full 8" stroke. I've had mine for close to 40 years and still finding new ways to adapt it.

[@shephusted2714]

lesson here is to get a big enough machine - properly sized equipment to the job at hand will end up saving you lots of time and aggravation

[@JETMECH401ST]

You can simply use a rim or tire with sortie a chain at the very base of the stump then run the chain up & over the tire then hook your chain low to the ground pull forward and both those stumps would have pulled straight up with not much force.

[@jchistia]

Huh?