Queen rearing for Beginners!!

[@kamonreynolds]

HEY all I will be posting/editing the second and remaining videos in this series below! Part 2 (grafting larvae) kzbin.info/www/bejne/o5y5hamjpL2VqLs part 3 (Checking our new queen cells) kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnurm2CLlrqBg9U

[@taylorv5151]

Also Love all the videos, thanks

[@paulawaldrep3760]

Looks like you're about to get some rough weather! Take care and Bee safe! :)

[@WillyPete_]

Kamon, i am learning plenty and will use the info this season. might i ask for myself and other ADHD folks out there.. a brief "Summary" of your lesson at the end of the video , it would help align everything i just learned. thnx

[@joecarrtn5137]

Kamon at some point in the near future I would like to hear your thoughts on how land owners like myself (I own 95 acres in Middle Tn) can use our acreage to plant bee friendly flora that can facilitate a good nectar flow for late summer and fall. Would such an effort be justified? By the way I am new to beekeeping, but with my engineering background I can't help but analyze and think of ways to improve the productivity of bees in Middle TN. Thanks in advance.

[@joer5627]

Thanks to you and Laurel. 3rd year beekeeper. Hoping for raise queens this year.

[@stufarnham]

One of the things I see consistently in queen rearing videos is that they are done by folks with large apiaries and an abundance of colonies and a huge number of bees on which to draw. It would be awesome to see videos aimed at the small scale backyard beekeepers with a handful of hives advising them on how to get started with fewer resources than a larger operation can bring to bear. Stu

[@researcherAmateur]

I doo it diferent, but you oll will be scherrd to doo it. I'm going for honey not for spliting. My hives have 10 freme of brood and i stoled evre capt brood frame from the small hives. Now my evre hive for honey is like a starter. But it's dificult to not make them sworme, or think about it. Then the honey is gone. The qweens first get restricted with old honey and pollen fremes. So she can't lay eags. 5 days after i cage them. Then when the hive becams like a starter from all that brood you can put grafts, or a freme with eags if the flow is strong. The thing is that a caged qween stops lain and the bees start to think they shud make a new one. They doo the best cells they can. So, my honey hives are oll like starters but they doo just 3, 4 qween cells. When you see eags from a new qween you take the caged one and relise in a nuck ,like she is a jung qween. Betvin ol thet you trete with OAV and the hive is rede for a new ciklus with a new qween. Hope you anderstend this. You cood doo it with 1 big hive and 2 nucs

[@dawg1157]

@@researcherAmateur wait...what? I think I had a seizure reading your comment lol!

[@researcherAmateur]

@@dawg1157 l don't know. My old father wrote it. I think it's a all in one sistem, difficult to explain. And he's spelling is really bad. It's a brood break sistem, that you do in the flow. You get more honey and 2-3 supercedure queens

[@annie3074]

@dawg1157 I understood him just fine. He's clearly from an older generation, maybe southern. I'm actually pretty interested in knowing more about his system. Treat people with a little respect, especially the generation that taught you everything you know. Quit being a tool, instead go find one and figure out how to use it

[@researcherAmateur]

I could fix the mistakes but you still wouldn't understand it. This isn't stuff for beginners. So, keep splitting and watch for swarm cells. Good luck with the package buying every year. He's done with trying to help Americans keep their bees alive.. tried for two years and nobody ever had a question. I guess it's much better to buy new bees. Have a good harvest

[@niceed00]

Kamon, you and Ian both have a very casual confidence in your presentation style that makes your videos easy to watch and enjoy. You certainly go into each video with a goal in mind, and after a few laughs, a cat or two, some insights into Jimmy's eating habits, and if we are blessed a giggle from behind the camera, You get there!

[@yasminnilima2366]

I wish I was that poethic in my language! So nicely said!

[@1son8043]

Going to have a go at this myself this weekend, your video are very informative not just on the grafting but the full process.

[@arum236]

Techniques are on point here. A well spoken and descriptive video.

[@kamonreynolds]

Thanks Andrew

[@donbearden1953]

This should be a very interesting series! I’m waiting on the next video! Thanks Kamon & Laurel for taking the time and effort to produce your videos!

[@HuxtonHoneyIncCody]

Coming from California and I got to say I have learned so much from you! Thank you and keep it up!

[@donegal1983]

Hi Kamon, many thanks for the great video on queen rearing. Looking forward to the next video 👍

[@MegaDavyk]

Its great to see beekeepers reclaim his very important aspect of our Hobby or Trade. Anyone can do it with a little practice and it is very rewarding.

[@matthewrick]

Thanks for doing these grafting videos! I’m very excited by these!

[@MetalK1LLs]

I don't often comment on videos but I must say I thoroughly enjoy all the content you provide here. Your videos are both informative and entertaining. You have true talent for beekeeping but also for presenting! Keep up the good work and thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge with us fellow beekeepers!

[@kamonreynolds]

Thanks man! I appreciate the feedback!

[@melodyball3773]

I'm learning a lot from the videos I have 6 hives and you are helping me a great deal thanks

[@CastleHives]

Thanks for starting this series. Look forward to the next.

[@davidgiddens8895]

This will be my first attempt at rearing queens. I look forward to your upcoming videos on the subject and I hope to share my experience with you in the upcoming season. Thanks again for your informative videos and I hope you have a highly successful year!

[@petenyc3]

I’m amazed that in all that mass confusion and upheaval with bees all over flying you were not stung once in your loose veil and t-shirt! Great video! You’re advanced! Queen rearing isn’t that easy! Best Wishes! (Me? Ain’t raising queens anytime soon...sitting in my New York City apartment waiting for the Coronavirus to get me! -Pete, Elmhurst, Queens)

[@kamonreynolds]

Hope it gets better for you all there in NY Pete!

[@petenyc3]

Thanks Kamon! Best Wishes to you, Laurel, the children and all the wonderful folks in Tennessee!

[@rayjohnson8329]

Hello once again Laurel & Kamon, thanks for the simplicity. HAPPY 🐣 EASTER!

[@kamonreynolds]

Happy Easter Ray!

[@richardkuhn8115]

Thanks for sharing guys. I hope to do some first time grafting in a couple of weeks. Looking forward to your next videos. You and your family have a Blessed Easter. BB Safe!

[@kamonreynolds]

Should have that within the week! Happy Easter!

[@richardkuhn8115]

@@kamonreynolds Well, my favorite colony swarmed this afternoon. Not much I could do about it. I am @ my limit already. I only have five colonies, because my backyard is small. It was the colony that I was going to graft from in a week or two. Not sure what to do or to keep on. Sure is heartbreaking!

[@kevinwright8823]

Great timing! I'm going to give it a try this year.

[@jeremyjames3895]

Thanks Kamon, been waiting for this.. Enjoy your family ..

[@christianbuzila9838]

Thank you Kamon!! I fallowing your style and try to raise me some queens. I wish you and your family andHappy and Blessed Easter !!

[@kamonreynolds]

Happy Easter from our Family to yours!

[@theresawheeler4566]

Thank you for another awesome video!!! We appreciate them and enjoy the constant learning about caring for the bees! Please keep the videos coming!!! Enjoy your Easter and God Bless you and your Family 🐝🌹🌸💐🌻

[@kamonreynolds]

Thanks Theresa! Happy Easter and God Bless you and yours :-)

[@milesboulton9885]

Hello Kamon! I always wondered how this was done. You explained it well. Thank you! And thank you, Laura, for the fine photography. It's not Easter any more - but He is still risen! God bless, from Miles and Carla in S.E. WA State.

[@normabroussard9560]

I love your videos I learn something every time thank you and Laura

[@wayneshoneybees5439]

Great series. Very informative. Looking forward to part 2.

[@2002bam]

I enjoy all the videos you folks put out. I'm new to the bee keeping world your videos help a lot

[@dannycrain3485]

Cool love queen videos. Thanks

[@royschrader8003]

Thank you Mr. K I'm going to use Nicot soon. This will be my first time for queens.

[@ginomorris4873]

Happy Easter to you and your family kamon..Thank you for more educating info..

[@stevesoutdoorworld4340]

Looking great Kamon keep it up!

[@LarryLeesBees]

Can I just say, I have been waiting for this series! Thanks Kamon, your timing is impeccable!!! LoL!!! Keep doing what you do. Looking forward to this queen rearing series immensely. And thanks Laurel for not editing out Kamon’s bloopers! You’re the best! LoL!!! 🤣

[@cherylhurley7401]

Great job explaining your topic

[@natserog]

this video rocks!!! so well explained!! thanks Kamon!!

[@rossg87]

Happy Easter.

[@QueOraSi]

Unbelievable! After watching your videos, I shook 8 frames of nurse bees into a 5 frame nuke and after trying to use the Nicott system unsuccessfully because the queen wouldn't lay in the cups, I grafted and got 5 cells to take. These are the biggest queen cells I have ever seen. I'll be making 5 splits on Wednesday and putting the cells in Thursday. Having now gotten familiar with grafting I'm going to shake in some more nurse bees and try a second round. Thanks Kamon.

[@Digger927]

I'm planning on starting this process this coming week, quite a bit of cold weather in the forecast here the next few days and our drone population is still stupid low. We're always a little behind you guys over there in that part of the country.

[@micksbeesstephens5327]

Hey Kamon, timing is everything. Actually setting up my cell builder on the 15th which is a 5 frame medium nuc. Grafting the next day and weather is improving then! Good luck this season and happy Easter from Nashville

[@clabertguillory4255]

Really enjoyed your video. I have four hives and am considering growing my haves by rearing more queens. Think I will try to raise my own queens, thanks so much.

[@lynsmith2698]

Great video Kamon. I am hoping to be able to rear some queens for myself next year. I live in a remote area and only get mail 3x a week so i have a hard time getting queens sent to me. These videos are going to be so helpful

[@josephwoodall832]

Really great video thank you

[@williamschulz6302]

Great video, happy Easter 💐

[@kamonreynolds]

Happy Easter William!

[@danskisbees7348]

Hello Kamon and Laurel, I'm looking forward to following this, I like the fact that you packed out a nuc. Happy Easter!

[@kamonreynolds]

Happy Easter Dan!

[@michaelfike7542]

HAPPY EASTER .great video Learning a lot from your videos. Hope you all stay safe and healthy in the future. 🐝🐝🐝❤👍🤞🙏

[@nannygranny9534]

Got my Dadant smoker today!! Excited to use it. Couldn’t keep my other one going.

[@joecarrtn5137]

Excellent video Kamon. Looking forward to subsequent videos. He is Risen!

[@kellywilson7893]

thank you

[@MikeBarryBees]

Good video. Still waiting on my back ordered amber queen cups. Someone bought them all up, hmm. But this and R. Oliver’s “queens for pennies” can help anyone raise up queens. I do like that you are always unbiased, and that’s how you can tell a good beekeeper....builder colony versus starter and finisher. Capped brood recommended per Lawrence J Conner for exactly the reason you said, plus less equipment.

[@kamonreynolds]

Thanks Mike! Hopefully they get you your cups soon! Everyone is WAYYYY behind right now. Crazy

[@thanosrevenisios]

Very nice videos....I'm beekeeper from Greece 🐝🐝🍯🍯🍯

[@kevinjackson1840]

laurel you do such a great video job and kamon you are so cool and collected with a bee inside your vail.

[@kamonreynolds]

Thanks Kevin!

[@beeornottobee4507]

Great video. Hi from Belarus bee's forests! I'm to bee keeping and found this very practical and informative. Thank you for taking the time to share. 👍👍👍✊🙏

[@nock1983]

This is going to be good. I’ll be watching.

[@mikesbeesllc]

Great video Kamon. I've got a box ready and I'm going to try to raise some queens this year. Happy Easter to you and your family.

[@kamonreynolds]

Happy Easter Shakenbake!

[@researcherAmateur]

The not grafting method you spoked... it works if you do it in the best time of the flow... I still do it some time. Happy Easter

[@kamonreynolds]

Happy Easter!

[@davidmendenhall2082]

more good information thanks from new beekeeper

[@trichard5106]

Thanks !!

[@nancynolton6079]

Excellent!

[@Thatfishguy05]

I’m excited to try this myself. I have 2 colonies in 10 frame boxes and one in a 5 frame nuc. That leaves me with 8 10 frame boxes I’d like to have bees in by fall. Thank you for sharing

[@NawarajG]

watching from nepal thank you

[@yasminnilima2366]

Thanks, I have seen both eggs and caped brood. But no drones yet. I'll wait till I see them before I try grafting. I've bought a row with place for 10 queens. That will be more than enough for me to tend to.😁😅🐝🌻🤟💪🙏😎😉🤗 This I WILL BE following close. Good to live in the middle of the woods in these Corona times... Thank you for keeping up the good work! Your videos really make all that difference for me. My entire family enjoy watching you. Thank you so much Laurel and Kamon! You are both so hard working! Wish I could shower you up in money! So you could do both beekeeping and education at the same time! Have some people working for you too. I really really wish this for you! You do this in a very good way and it is speaking for itself! Your channel is growing! Way to go Laurel and Kamon! Your babie beekeepers are great to. Missing some cats in action... see you soon again! GLAD PÅSK!

[@kennyallen6370]

“ it’s a thousand wonders” 😂👍

[@fishmut]

I have to say very interesting, I tried to raise queens and failed before years ago and not tried since, I’ll try again hopefully at least getting somewhere close. I find it very hard not so easy. So your tips are lots of nurse bees , (grafting day old eggs), put grafted eggs (in cups ) day 2 to Colony day 10 take out , day 16 queens emerges and put with colonels that need re queening or selling or mating nucs . Don’t know if that’s why.

[@julieshindle5299]

Looking forward to making queens this year! You make it look very easy on your videos... Sure hope I can do it as well as you! Please enter me in the Beatle catcher drawing! Thank you

[@chrisordway1388]

Hey guys. What do you do with your queens in winter ? Do you store and raise them during cold months too . Curious to learn more on this

[@judicorbett9401]

Hey Kamon, how many times would you use that his of bees, for queen making? I assume each week you would need to add new young bees. When you use it for a while, it must get pretty full of bees. When you are done with it, do you just add a queen cell and turn it into an actual hive?

[@helenhilman]

Kamon, I always enjoy your videos. I need some assistance please. I was wondering if you could answer this question for me I’m not quite understanding. Is it possible to use the same Cell Builder as my cell starter as my cell finisher as well? And is there anything I need to do to make it work to produce good quality queens? Last year I was successful raising queens but it did seem like a tedious process using the cell builder with bees all enclosed for 2-3 days then transferring the new drawn out cells to a queen right cell finisher with queen excluder. We have several hives that need split like now but I haven’t even got started on my process yet 😬😬😩

[@wildoutdoors8089]

I'm absolutely amazed you're at your bees without a full suit, I bought a box of bees on frames 2 weeks ago, and when the transport entrance was opened they poured out and I beat a hasty retreat. NOW, even after smoking when I tried to check frames and fit excluder to add top box I'm covered with bees and stung through suit in places. Lucky I got leather gloves, they got the brunt of the attack. I thought they would have calmed down by now,an hour relocation. Impossible to do anything with them. Any help from experienced greatly appreciated. I'm in Wicklow Ireland and bought from someone in the business for generations.😱 They're experienced,I'm not, but this is crazy, Like something out of "The Killer Bee Man" Do I start again? Caveat emptor?

[@Xanabys]

God work 💪💪💪

[@drpreppersurvival4775]

Kamon What would happen if you had either a virgin queen or queen cell with old queen below an excluder with brood above and below the excluder in a double brood box. Would the top queen survive and thrive as a double queen hive? Navy Phil

[@SpiritualButNotReligious]

Thanks for the video, it is going to be interesting and a special thanks to Laurel for not cutting stuff out when you ask her lol. I have a question if you would leave the cell cups that were there developpe and pic them saving you the grafting part, would they be of good quality?

[@kamonreynolds]

I have never tried that Stephane but maybe I should. I think it would be hard to implement but not impossible

[@popquizzz]

Kamon, when you use any water to dilute your feed be it sugar water or diluted honey water are you using straight tap water or are you using filtered water or some other non-chlorinated source i.e., distilled water, spring water, etc? Thanks for showing this crucial step of the cell builder. The only other person that I've seen provide this crucial info is RichardNoel @BeesInBritany.

[@kamonreynolds]

I like richards videos myself. I have access to spring water but I have also used city water when I needed to. I typically cut the honey by 2 parts honey to 1 part warm water.

[@BlanchardsBees]

Maybe I missed something but with all those bees to keep each other warm why the insulation on top of the inner cover? Happy Easter!

[@kamonreynolds]

Shouldn't need it but we did drop down close to freezing the other night

[@annkrupa2349]

It takes an amazing amount of bees for a starter. Does it matter that the nurse bees might come from a couple different hives or should they only come from one specific hive?

[@FloryJohann]

It does not matter. I use young nursing bees and frames with brood from different hives when I do a split, this way I do not decrease the population from the donor hive to much.

[@LeonardHarrisLH]

Quick question. The nuc you took frames from was that queenless? Was that an earlier split made up for the point of getting some capped brood from?

[@kamonreynolds]

Yes totally queen less and was just frames gathered from a 4-5 hives while working one of our out yards

[@scrappinbig2239]

Hello Kamon , I really enjoy watching your videos , you do a great job talking about almost every aspect of being/becoming a bee keeper . I have been trying to go through all of your older videos to try and learn about what it takes to be a beekeeper and it sounds like a lot of work and fun. Sorry this is so long , so just one last question do you have a website listed somewhere that let's your viewers know how to purchase some of your honey? Just curious. See you in your next episode.

[@محمودالنجار-ل2ل]

I raised the queens, but I forgot to put a frame of pollen, and I did not put any pastes or substitutes, and 45 out of 48 succeeded, but I was surprised by the small size of the queens (almost the size of the worker) Is the reason for their smallness is the lack of pollen during breeding or the large number (48) ) Thanks

[@deweysanders1461]

Thanks for the share and I have a quick question. When the queen cell is capped is it removed and placed in a queenless colony before it hatches or is it allowed to hatch in the breeding colony?

[@kamonreynolds]

Yes, on day 10 after graft we pull them out and put them into a queenless mating nucs or queenless colony

[@brandoncarthen3768]

Hey Kamon and Laurel. What is the purpose of shaking the bees at the entrance instead of in the box?

[@Craigatkinsonlaw]

Brandon Carthen I’m guessing it’s so they don’t squash bees while he’s putting the frames in. And he’s shaking them off the frames so he can look for queen cells.

[@kamonreynolds]

Exactly. Primarily to prevent crushing bees!

[@russellkoopman3004]

It would help lower the foragers count also.

[@albertahoney4253]

I grafted 40 cups , I have them in queen bank - how long should I wait to put in separate nucs? When should I move my queen cells into nucs? I don’t want queen hatching and killing the rest of the queen cells

[@JoeCliftonPerry]

How many times can I use the same cell builder as a starter AND finisher? Will the bees eventually get fed up with being queenless or do the cells alone satisfy them?

[@kathyhathaway8823]

Kamon this video I just found on grafting it said it was a year ago . My question is what month was this video or I am in NC so what month is the earliest starting grafting could be done. I know it also depends on the weather an temperature. ?? Thanks again for all your great video’s.

[@silvercorona1]

What do you do with the burr comb and inevitable drone brood that gets scraped off as you inspect your hives?

[@kamonreynolds]

Goes in a bucket to eventually be melted down!

[@jasonpowell4114]

I will get my 1st package next week, would it be ok if I tried to graft from it if the queen isnt mated good or doesn't have a good pattern? Im not sure how to start getting good genetics if I don't have good genetics to start or know where to get any.

[@FloryJohann]

I appreciate every video you show, they are very educational . One question, how do you dilute honey. what ratio.

[@kamonreynolds]

Thanks J&B 2 parts honey 1 part water. I just eye ball it though. If you get it a little off they won't care. It does spoil quick so watch that

[@FloryJohann]

@@kamonreynolds Thank you for responding.

[@beatrichebeesandhoney6303]

How long after setting up the cell builder should I wait to drop the grafts in?

[@kamonreynolds]

A day as at most if they have no larvae besides the grafts

[@beatrichebeesandhoney6303]

@@kamonreynolds I rolled the dice and did em same day. I’m pretty sure there was no larvae in my cell builder and was in a pinch with upcoming weather. Thanks for all your insights and efforts with the vids. Really giving me the confidence to take my beeekeeping to the next level. Your instruction is great for my learning style

[@bankolemutiullaah3383]

Hello well done guy, thanks for the video. I couldn't get what is inside that paper you place on top before covering the hive?

[@muratgokirmak6132]

Superb. Main idea Nutrition and Nurse bees and lots of royal gelly.. my question mating box very small what do you think about quenn wating 6-10 days became adult. small mating box 300 bees give enough nutrition to queen ?

[@naturessweetbees3033]

Hey Kamon, really like your videos. I have probably watched this series 4 times now...I'm going to give it a shot this year. My question is; Perhaps I missed you talking about location but In the videos you seem to be trying to keep the cell builders in spots that have a lot of foilage in the background. What is the ideal location to raise the queen cells for temperature sensitivity?

[@brucebrown652]

Kamon Do you put a queen excluder on to keep a Queen from coming back to the starter hive. Thanks

[@kamonreynolds]

I actually don't but some do.

[@gemibees]

Greeeeeeeat ... perfecto

[@jacobuslodewikusjoubert4467]

Goodday sir. From this video,I see that you fabricate the right enviroment for the bees to make there own queens. So grafting is not done here. Is that correct? The video following this one. Can you direct me to it please. Grafting is a more accurate, but I would like to do queen rearing without grafting. I am building a 2×3 frames hive as one. So I can double my queen output and have them under eye the same time. My side walls will be glass fitted so that I can monitor progress easier. I think the part 2 of this series is going this direction. Grafting, although more secure is my second choice. I am rearing queens for myself. So I can manupilate the conditions to encourage swaming therefore queen rearing as the result. You're learned opinion will be appreciated, Cobus🐳

[@jonhatchcirclejfarms1628]

If you don't have a lot of nurse bees to start with can you use a 2 or 3 frame box?

[@kamonreynolds]

I have never done it. BUT likely it will work just dont raise as many cells at a time

[@paulchristu996]

I’ve been thinking about how to use a 2 framer, because packing it with nurse bees would be less of a draw on the resources of other hives, if you have only a few hives. Biggest problem seems to be that you’d need one frame with a lot of pollen AND nectar, because the other is your graft frame. Guess you could take a frame of mostly pollen, cut or scrape out a big central area, put it back in the middle of hive to get drawn, then a few days off to the side to get new comb nectar-filled. I don’t need a lot of queens, so I’m planning to use just the upper bar for queen cells, put starter strips in the lower 2 bars to hopefully get comb built, nectar-filled. Bout time I stop pondering, get to doing!

[@doctortcbkk2027]

So why do they march in if they have no queen to follow in?

[@kamonreynolds]

Nurse bees can't fly so they head for the next best thing to a queen and that is more bees and hive smells! There is still residual pheromones on these combs

[@deborahholman6588]

Hope that I can see well enough to do this.

[@Crewdog77]

If you accidentally shook a queen from one of those frames onto the ground, would she fly back to her original hive? thanks, great vids.

[@jpthedelawarebeeman6239]

Hi Kamon, do you have a link for the vail you like using ? I'm looking for something new.

[@kamonreynolds]

I don't but Kelleys has them for sell and that is where I get mine. If you call kelleys Ask for Jesinda she is very helpful and knows the type I use.

[@frankspataro9714]

You end up finishing the cells in the same box or do you use a Q right finisher

[@kamonreynolds]

You can do both. A large finisher is the best way and what I prefer but you totally can run the cells full course in this nucleus

[@davidowens2251]

Hi Kamon, Saw what looked like M MCoy branded on one of your frames and saw one recently that looked the same in long term storage in Delaware. Where did it come from?

[@kamonreynolds]

I purchased some nucs about 10 years ago and some of the frame had that on them. I didn't buy them from mccoy. Mine came out of GA from a guy with the last name of butterfield

[@erikabrahamsson3215]

Hello! I just got into queen rearing. Since I only have a 2 frame box I cannot fit as many bees as you can however I can have a higher bee density. Do you think the result would be the same with a 2 frame box or should I just get the 5 frame box?

[@kamonreynolds]

I have never tried it. The result I doubt will be thew same but it still may be acceptable. The bigger/stronger the starter hive the more quality cells it can handle. You could try it but likely it will only be able to handle a handful of cells. Perhaps try 15 and see how they respond

[@CrossroadToCountry]

When do you start the queen rearing process? Is it when you start seeing drones?

[@catherinesutthoff1889]

How is it that the nurse bees are drawn to this nuc even though there’s not a queen? Is it the brood?

[@kamonreynolds]

yes, young bees that don't fly are especially attracted to hive smells and pheromones that the brood produces

[@raterus]

I'm confused, you got the nurse bees from the other colony, but what was in that 5 frame nuc? Was that just a queenless colony already?