Queen Victoria's Daughters, Part 1

[@LindsayHoliday]

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[@cindyaraya7317]

Lindsay Holiday, Thank you! I was looking for that! :)

[@adelaidedupont9017]

Thanks Lindsay - can't wait until tomorrow! [I think the 23rd in #australiandaylightsavingtime ].

[@jaysontan9693]

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[@Rose-qd2bl]

Interesting video. Thank you. It's prounced Hess -ah and Schlay s - vig Hole schtine.

[@markespitallier7884]

Cindy Araya sA

[@alondrita3107]

"When teased by an older brother, she punched him in the nose." Lmfao, you go sis.

[@racheldianeames3729]

PROMPTS for Helena

[@madeleinegrace7695]

Badass Helena I tell you that She feckin savage

[@JustAChinesePleb]

@Johny Myers Good. Violence may not be the answer, but if it's deserved 🤷🏾.

[@elisejackson2854]

@@JustAChinesePleb funny how it changes.

[@weluvmia]

Badass Queen

[@malumoreira9622]

when queen victoria said that "the loss of a child isn't as bad as the loss of a husband" i knew that she had failed her vibe check

[@rx500android]

Omg I love this comment

[@IamShem]

And at her favorite daughter's wedding, she sees it as a funeral instead of a wedding.

[@ElizaDolittle]

Terrible, but it was a common attitude going back to the ancient world. In ancient Rome it was inappropriate, especially for upper class families, to cry at a baby's funeral. Little children couldn't contribute to the family name. It was only when children came of age and could marry into wealthy families or could attain high positions in the military or in government and could carry or uplift the family name and honor, that children had value.

[@alexzandrafanning1515]

If you havent lost both a husband and a child then you cannot have an opinion on which is worse

[@LifeInPink999]

Same with Alice her baby boy who had hemophilia died after falling out of a window. Alice wrote to Victoria the Queen never give her any consolation and the same day wrote not even mentioning the boy’s death but only got scolding about politics blaming her to be against her. Seriously Queen Victoria was selfish not only to everyone but to her kids. Disgusting mother, the romanticization of her life made by tv series and movies don’t show how Queen Victoria only cared and loved herself. Her eternal mourning was not for her husband but for herself.

[@FightsRightsAlways]

"A death of a child, is less severe than the death of a husband " real talk, if that would have been me, I would never speak to my mother again. That is beyond cruel and hurtful, losing a loved one regardless of the status in your life, hurts and can damage you. People never talk about how hateful and mean Victoria was towards her own children.

[@jg2783]

TheStarsDon'tDance Spot on comment. I'm glad at least they had one affectionate parent.

[@bluehammy1]

After doing LOTS of research on Victoria, I believe that she was a narcissist, pure and simple. It was always all about her, and she didn’t really care about anyone else’s feelings, even and especially her husband and children. She also seems to have had characteristics associated with borderline personality disorder. But I know that that is entirely my opinion and not provable.

[@kayleighbrown459]

@@downsideupgoesgroar Dude....you're not supposed to love your kid after getting to know them. That shit's supposed to be instant. You carried the damn thing inside you for 9 months. If I grew a potted plant for 9 months I'd get emotionally attached let along if I was growing a human in my body. Like...this is the case for the VAST majority of mammals.

[@kayleighbrown459]

@Aquarius Lovegood True. Like, I'd never really judge someone for not instantly falling in love with their baby. Everyone's different. It's the mentality that attachment to ones own offspring is somehow abnormal that's getting me. Like, it's the most basic of natural instincts. Monkey's have it. Cows have it. Crocodiles have it. It's...how to be an animal 101. Right next to how to eat.

[@kayleighbrown459]

@@downsideupgoesgroar Not really picking up what I'm putting down there, mate.

[@ddthewolf]

Prince Albert sure seemed to love his daughters very much

[@suleskos.2743]

Could have been that he saw the disconnect between QV and thier children so he was making up for that

[@ddthewolf]

@@suleskos.2743 If that's the case guy deserves a lot more credit than he's given

[@Sydtha_kid]

I know right

[@poopythicckums2232]

I love kings that treat their daughters well like omgg ❤️❤️❤️

[@EauxFold46]

u day EARTHWORM SALLY LMAO

[@innocentsoul9651]

No one is talking about how they were actually pretty.

[@brielle7226]

Fr, old paintings be looking like hobos with baby skin, they are stunning

[@yanum5242]

Despite being incest kids...

[@unkochan2853]

That why I press this video

[@katherinemorelle7115]

Well, their mother was very pretty in her youth as well. We tend to remember Queen Victoria as old, grumpy, and obese. But she used to be gorgeous and petite. Seriously tiny.

[@thrii.3vq]

Clera Chan even me🤪

[@inannaishtar5298]

Alice died too early. She seems like a great woman.

[@cheri0427]

I read her biography. She accomplished a lot in her short life, but she could have accomplished so much more :(

[@dylanpsinakis7930]

I just hope Alice lived during the Russian Revolution. She could help her daughter Empress Alexandra and could influenced her.

[@cheri0427]

@@dylanpsinakis7930 Unfortunately she died when Alexandra was about six years old.

[@dylanpsinakis7930]

cheri0427 ikr. That is why i hoped

[@audreyquaye4095]

Princess Alice is Prince Phillip's Great Grandmother. He descends from her oldest daughter Princess Victoria of Battenberg who later became Princess Victoria of Mountbatten. Her daughter Princess Alice - Prince Phillip's Mother - is Lord Louis Mountbatten's Sister. She married Queen Alexandra's - wife of Queen Victoria's son King Edward VII and HM Queen Elizabeth II great Grandfather - brother's grandson. Queen Alexandra's Danish brother was appointed the King of Greece. Prince Phillip's father descends from him. Quite a convulted relationship!

[@Cat-tastrophee]

I snorted out loud when it said Queen Victoria called her daughter Alice a cow for breastfeeding. There are so many health benefits from breastfeeding, but they didn't know about those at the time (my grandma used formula even in the 1950s bc her doctors told her that breastmilk was bad for babies), so Alice must have wanted to be close to her children and bond with them. That's lovely.

[@yougotnojams7025]

What if doctors had said so because they needed test subjects for baby formulas and no one would be willing to endanger their babies like that

[@vindictivetiger]

women of a certain nobility class never breastfed their own children--they had wet nurses to do that.

[@starlinguk]

@@vindictivetiger Yup, they didn't use formula. That became popular much later. Heck, when I had my kid 20 years ago most of the new mothers I met hadn't even considered breastfeeding.

[@hollybardoe4075]

The Queen was also outraged when her granddaughter Alix, who became Empress of Russia, chose to breastfeed her children. "I think it is a great mistake for a woman in her position", she fussed to another granddaughter, Victoria of Hesse.

[@lillianklapcic5486]

I do not think that they had formula in those day, they just hired wet nurses, my grandmother nursed two other babies beside her four children between 1910 and 1920.

[@Indiegirl007]

Being told by your mom to get over it, the death of your baby ain't that bad, must have been.... heart wrenching. Must have been like a knife to the heart.

[@AtomicPeach]

Unfortunately I feel like at that point in her life she must’ve been used to her mothers cruelty and coldness

[@ladylunaginaofgames40]

Well, this was during an age when royals were making a slow transition into being parents for their kids. Victoria (Queen) didn't know how to comfort them because she's didn't have a good role mother. While Vicky and Alice got to be a proper parent to their children. It was also still during a time when royal parents should expect the death of a child, and are discouraged from expressing their sorrows to their parents. "Lost a Kid? Well, you're still young and fruitful enough to have another! You'll get over it!" will be common during this age.

[@thetillerwiller4696]

Luna Royal Games still, some sympathy would had been given. She was heartless

[@yuriokada9438]

I got beaten and raped and my mother told me that it was my own fault 🤷‍♀️

[@animec-dramaskpop6362]

@@yuriokada9438 Your mother is just as bad as Victoria then. I'm sorry that happened to you and i hope things are better for you now.

[@MJKT95]

Let me get this straight: Victoria despises motherhood so much that she can’t even console her daughters after the loss of their own children, but she can build a statue commemorating them out of public mourning? What a narcissist!

[@XxXShevampXxX]

OMG YES! Thank you for saying exactly what I was thinking. It's blatantly obvious to me that she was definitely a narcissist and it blows my mind that so many commenters are so defensive of her and are giving a million different excuses for her horrible behavior towards her children and justifying it by saying it wasn't her fault 🙄🙄 I'm not saying the woman didn't do some amazing things but that doesn't change or make up for the fact that she treated her children like shit and was incredibly selfish, just like a narcissist tends to be.

[@turnip8749]

Queen Victoria was very self centered

[@thunderbird1921]

That's why a lot of people ask the question as whether Queen Victoria was really a reform-minded monarch or a wanna-be tyrant. Remember, she controversially also accepted the Crown of Indian Empress and didn't always disavow imperialism committed in her name. Some even consider her one of the most controversial people in history.

[@seliamila1005]

i think because of her emotionally abusive childhood

[@MJKT95]

@@seliamila1005 Which I completely understand. Being a royal basically meant having an emotionally screwed up childhood and even more as a girl/woman. But she was still a horrible person even if the events leading up to her character were (validly) traumatizing.

[@picklesthewise]

Albert sounds like a much better father than Victoria was as a mother. He encouraged his daughters' education the same way he did his sons, while still letting them be feminine. Meanwhile, Victoria mocked her daughters for feminine or maternal actions such as breastfeeding their children or becoming a volunteer nurse (in the case of one). I think it's because she was so selfish and couldn't imagine caring or sacrificing for others that way.

[@sitamun7598]

Yep. It also sounds like Victoria was harbouring internalised misogyny.

[@picklesthewise]

@@sitamun7598 yep. By today's standards, Victoria was the poster child for internalized misogyny (you could even say, the Queen?). She also had unresolved issues with her own mother which could have led to her viewing motherhood in a negative way despite having so many children.

[@cherryblossom2494]

My great grandmother (who is my mom's grandma) is kind of like Victoria but her personality was wonderful

[@jaycuzman625]

We don't know for a fact that Victoria was the monster and Albert was the shining. Example of fatherhood and being a good husband.

[@mariafeodorovna4487]

I don’t think it comes from selfishness. Victoria was obviously extremely damaged and imperfect. I don’t think she knew how to have healthy parental relationships given her own terrible childhood. Also I think it’s kinda weird to judge her by the standards of our time. Most people of a similar social status weren’t THAT close with their kids anyway

[@alainasegovia5991]

There needs to be a show about the daughters.

[@yasminesami2238]

Yes!!!

[@zoefang4563]

Queen Victoria's fourth daughter, Louise has her own books about her---entitled "Queen Victoria's Mysterious Daughter"---OMG I am obsessed with that book and Princess Louise as a whole. She was an ardent feminist and keen talented artist. Louise was the beauty of the family

[@steveman7372]

Alaina Segovia there already is THIS ONE!!!

[@vindictivetiger]

no there doesn't. There are plenty of books to find out about them. Go read one.

[@sweetpeabee4983]

@@vindictivetiger sometimes...and I know this will be a shock, but sometimes...people like to see something they've only read about be brought visually to life. It's fine if you don't like movie or TV adaptations, but not everyone has to like the same things.

[@reythejediladyviajakku6078]

I often wonder if her relationship with her mother had been better, she might have been better at being a mother herself

[@CanCandelicious]

It must be reeeeeeally hard to be a good mother when your own one is not particularly good. Besides, we are talking about a time where rich women, specially royals, believed it was natural to give birth and then give the baby to a nanny...

[@mercyfabian4885]

Most likely. Her mother had the ambition to rule through her and controlled her as much as possible, until Victoria became a queen determined to have her way, which ended up with her trying to dominate her daughters. Ironic.

[@kristi4113]

The Duchess of Kent messed up with Victoria when she allowed John Conroy to control her.

[@mercyfabian4885]

@@kristi4113 When I heard about John Conroy I thought it was not true, but I've read enough about him and the Duchess that I am shocked that it was allowed!

[@kristi4113]

MERCY FABIAN That man seriously manipulated the Duchess into thinking and doing so many horrible things.

[@vickinoeske1711]

While I enjoy the love story between Victoria & Albert, she was a terrible mother.

[@SouthSideLadyWright]

like my momma. Terrible.

[@vickinoeske1711]

@@SouthSideLadyWright 🙁😢

[@SouthSideLadyWright]

Vicki Noeske it is sad. But just know that I didn’t take after her.

[@vickinoeske1711]

@@SouthSideLadyWright Glad you could rise above💖 Bless you.

[@ewanoxborrow1024]

Whilst she had her bad side, her children (her daughters especially) became quite well rounded and intelligent young women, she obviously did something right I think Albert’s influence was a positive one for sure

[@ZeoViolet]

"When teased by an older brother, she punched him in the nose." That simple line had me chuckling to myself the rest of the video.

[@iluop3623]

Which older brother? Edward VII?

[@clairefordzetterstrom9973]

Yeah also road to 1k likes 996 likes

[@liam27]

I read that after her daughter Marie died, Alice didn't tell her other children immediately because they were still very ill themselves and she didn't want to distress them. When she finally broke the terrible news, her son Ernest refused to accept it and burst into floods of tears. Because Alice had been a nurse, she had stopped having physical contact with her sick children to prevent infection. But when Ernest began to cry, she couldn't restrain herself and comforted him with a kiss on the head. She then later became ill with diphtheria too and eventually died.

[@aerichandesu._.]

alice actually kissed ernst on lips causing her to be infected by diphtheria and dying later that year

[@bismarckswalkingstick]

Good Lord…

[@Firebender554]

You have to wonder if Ernest ever blamed himself for Alice getting sick and dying

[@miaomiaochan]

"Never mind - next time, it will be a prince" It was, but Vicky made a more diligent and intelligent student as a child and probably would have made a better monarch than her younger brother Bertie.

[@kristi4113]

The Prince Consort could have easily persuaded Victoria to make Vicky the heir apparent had the British government not been so against absolute primogeniture at the time.

[@jamiemohan2049]

@@kristi4113 no he couldn't of. The British government could assign the heir. Albert was not well liked as he was German. The government would not allow him to be king consort. They decided he would be styled as prince consort.

[@kristi4113]

Rhaenyra Targaryen Who said anything about Albert being King? Pretty sure I said he could have persuaded Victoria to make their daughter heir, and with someone like Disraeli on their side, it would have happened.

[@jamiemohan2049]

@@kristi4113 there was debate over whether or not Albert would be styled king consort. The government said NO. I brought that up to emphasis that Albert had limited power to do much, Victoria could not grant him the title either. The government deside the laws of succession, not the monarch. Victoria was a constitutional monarch, she didnt have the power to change the succession laws. Only absolute monarchs could.

[@katierasburn1093]

Rhaenyra Targaryen there’s no need to be so rude to someone who’s merely curious

[@irawilliams343]

Giving birth to nine children and running a country really took a toll on her that she suffered from postnatal depression. She loved her children but had difficulty expressing them due to her dysfunctional relationship with her own mother.

[@m.woodsrobinson9244]

I agree, and people have to remember that this was an era when people, especially the rich, were expected to be emotionally detached from their children.

[@maggiemae7749]

She loved cannabis!

[@Khloe_dancer_model]

Speaking Truth really?...so sad...

[@DellaZA]

@Speaking Truth yet she caused thousands of children's deaths in South Africa. A fact that is conveniently erased from your history?

[@karenstepeck8337]

Queen Victoria didn't run her country m, like queen Elizabeth she had ceremonial duties and the like but she had no say in the actual running of the country. Also she had absolutely todowith taking care of her article and decided to give them a shot. They work great! Comes with four in a single package. Definitely would recommend if you're having trouble keeping sheets on your bed." -Amazon Customerchildren (not physically anyway) article and decided to give them a shot. They work great! Comes with four in a single package. Definitely would recommend if you're having trouble keeping sheets on your bed." -Amazon Customerbut she certainly had time to spend with them

[@emilyfouquettehoffman7886]

At least Queen Victoria cared enough that she wanted her children to be able to marry for love... mostly...

[@specialnted]

@@SouthSideLadyWright tf

[@cindyaraya7317]

Lagertha's Pumpkin Apprentice, I wouldn't be so sure about that. They had to be Royal for sure.

[@hollybardoe4075]

@@cindyaraya7317 Louise's husband was not a royal, though he was in the higher nobility in England.

[@andrepettersson175]

Victoria was a complex character thats for sure.

[@Quaronna]

@@SouthSideLadyWright 😍

[@jonesvideo80]

Daughter: breathes Victoria: WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH YOU DO YOU KNOW HOW HARD I SUFFER JUST TO KEEP YOU HAPPY!?

[@Kolchak_Enjoyer]

Holy shit I've seen you in 15 videos

[@jonesvideo80]

@@Kolchak_Enjoyer you better quit that swearing

[@jonesvideo80]

@Pomeranian Queen I don't know you tell me

[@AmyHoldaway27]

r/entitled parents

[@jonesvideo80]

@@AmyHoldaway27 pretty much

[@lovelydiva06]

Alice is a perfect example that some people are born good natured and kind hearted she was still so loving and caring to her cold hearted mother

[@origamiandcats6873]

Fun fact. Alice is the Great Grandmother of Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, the husband of Queen Elizabeth II. Queen Victoria is the great-great Grandmother of both Queen Elizabeth II and her husband Prince Philip.

[@LindsayHoliday]

Very cool! I'll explain all Queen V's relations to 5 current monarchs in upcoming videos about her grandchildren.

[@jaki7780]

Alice was also the mother of Empress Alexandra of Russia, wife of Nicholas II.

[@Gameflyer001]

@@jaki7780 Also the mother of Grand Duchess Elizabeth of Russia (older sister of the Tsarina), who was assassinated by the Bolsheviks the day after Alix.

[@m.woodsrobinson9244]

@@jaki7780 And Nicholas the 2nd's mother was Princess Dagmar of Denmark who was the sister of Princess (later Queen) Alexandra, the wife of Edward the 7th, who was, of course, Alexandra of Russia's maternal uncle! Mess!

[@missireason8998]

As the moniker goes, Victoria was the grandmother of Europe, and by marrying her first cousin, gave all of Europe's monarchies a lineage of Hemophiliacs. The genetic mutation manifested through Victoria's mother's family line, and Albert was related to Victoria through her mother.

[@joannassienkiewicz1997]

I want to give Helena a shout out for translating the memoirs of Princess Wilhelmine of Prussia. She was a stellar translator!

[@emilylloyd-gale6382]

Salomea Võti I have a certificate from 1896 signed by Princess Helena for the Royal School of Needlework. It’s the only one of its kind in the world.

[@allilee2523]

I seriously feel so horrible for Alice. She seemed to be so pure of heart, genuine, kind, and open minded/hearted. She seemed to genuinely care for all, even insufferable people such as the Queen Victoria. But she endured so many hardships.

[@sweetanarchi]

And died too soon 😢

[@theelitemanticore151]

Vicky may be the eldest child, but Alice was more of the mother figure to all her siblings. She died too soon…😢

[@gerardmackay8909]

@@theelitemanticore151 absolutely right. Those siblings had fractured relationships and there was a lot of factionalism and back biting (Bertie and Helena hated each other for example) but they were ALL united in their love of Alice.

[@theelitemanticore151]

@@gerardmackay8909 she definitely the mother Queen Victoria wasn’t. The angel of all Victoria’s children.

[@jordang7479]

I'm sure someone's already said this but a version of the Crown but about Victoria's children would be AMAZING!! 18 episodes. 9 for when they're children and 9 for when they're adults.

[@josiepye]

Totally agree

[@dw9524]

There's a TV show called Victoria which aired a while back. Doesn't show the kids as much but it's really insightful

[@ebonyloveivory]

Queen Victoria: "My children should marry for love-BUT from this shortlisted candidates I have." 🤔🤣😣

[@gostavoadolfos2023]

She seems like the woman who act like a wall when you are trying to have a conversation with her.

[@zui9607]

Every arrange marriage in India.

[@noorbohamad5796]

@@gostavoadolfos2023 basically just about too many of y’all and uh yeah sure let’s shit on abused depressed people for being abused depressed also for just the HORRIBLE “crime” of simply being 😱 WOMAN 👩 depressed abused manipulated isolated widowed grief stricken grieving heartbroken WOMAN how DARE we menstruate how DARE we/she/I exist how DARE we/she/I breath how DARE we/she/I have female feelings female thoughts female bodies a vagina a female reproductive system instead of a “superior” male one

[@fishstix8025]

I absolutely love Queen Victorias children, they were all so different and lived such interesting lives.

[@toomuchsaucing]

her mother was very heartless, i’d say she wasn’t exactly like her but had some ways about her.

[@elizabethmcleod246]

From what I’ve learned, back then you were often bedridden when pregnant. She probably didn’t like it.

[@Alexs.2599]

Her mother wasn't heartless, she was blind when it came to John Conroy. She was totally dominated by him and he wanted to control Victoria and be her regent.

[@AmyHoldaway27]

@@elizabethmcleod246 yes, I can’t imagine pregnancy being fun (I am pregnant myself lol). However, that not an excuse to not love your kids, especially when they were made in love.

[@elizabethmcleod246]

@@AmyHoldaway27 I totally agree.

[@noorbohamad5796]

@@elizabethmcleod246 then thank goodness Queen Victoria DID love her children maybe she just didn’t really like them:(maybe sometimes yes maybe some other times no):nor needed to our parents owe us nothing WE owe THEM I love my family VERY dearly that doesn’t mean I have to like them all ALL the time

[@anonimkaanonimka7352]

Recently, I often think about Alice. Poor Alice, she had an unhappy life. Over the last several years of her life she had a poor relationship with her mother, and in the last few years her relationship with her husband has deteriorated. She experienced the deaths of her two children and was disliked in Darmstadt, which hurt her. After her death, the future King Edward VII wrote about her: ,,Alice was my favourite sister. So good, so kind, so clever! We had gone through so much together...".

[@noorbohamad5796]

was Alice his fav sis? or their big sis Vic?

[@srijeetasikder2678]

@@noorbohamad5796 Alice was Bertie’s favourite.

[@theelitemanticore151]

Well to be fair, at least Queen Victoria treated Alice’s children nicely…she was nicer to her grandchildren than her children.

[@liv6379]

her son tried to kick her out... so she built a castle

[@zzzbbbooo]

No. That never happened.

[@gabbyfringette7250]

@@zzzbbbooo Except that it did

[@jackmathis2301]

Imagine if dr phill existed then

[@seliamila1005]

awful son

[@seliamila1005]

@@jackmathis2301 phil is an awful man with no integrity

[@evangeline77x]

I adore Alice, she was absolutely fascinating! As were her daughters, Elizabeth and Alix, they were both such glamorous and truly lovely women, it's obvious how much they both took after their mother.

[@Bella-qu5pf]

Alix not so much

[@annacostello5181]

Alix lead Russia off a cliff

[@michaelverbakel7632]

Princess Victoria of Hesse was the older sister of Alix of Russia and she was the grandmother of Prince Philip, Queen Elizabeth's late husband who just died in 2021. Victoria was also the mother of the Lord Louis Mountbatten, Admiral of Britain's Royal navy and the last Viceroy of India. So, Prince Charles, Prince William & his son are all direct descendants of Princess Victoria & her mother Princess Alice, the 2nd daughter of Queen Victoria.

[@Gameflyer001]

Poor Princess Alice, by far the unluckiest of Queen Victoria's children, and her descendants endured terrible tragedies of their own. Perhaps the lone bright spot in her line was Prince Philip, her great-grandson through her eldest daughter Victoria of Hesse, later the Marchioness of Milford Haven.

[@Whitneypyant]

Yep

[@stevewoodson4635]

Harry et Meghan

[@breakthrough8122]

@@stevewoodson4635 what has Harry and Meghan got to do with this? They left the racist establishment and are lucky enough to have found each other and support each other through the good and bad! The rest of the royal family is the unlucky ones, the golden prince attacked by cheating scandals and the English rose too plain and “lazy”

[@ravenzyblack]

Breakthrough- Racist establishment? MM didn’t give a damn about the black side of her family until it was politically expedient for her to do so. The only BLACK member of her family was her mother, who is HALF black. No other BLACK relatives were invited to her wedding. She uses the Race Card when it gets her money’s and attention. She doesn’t give a damn about the black community. You will NEVER see her living in a black neighborhood... ever.

[@toomessy]

Nobody hated Megan because she was a-quarter-Black. Most people didn't even KNOW she had Black in her at all. British people hated her because she was American and was part of the entertainment industry. Her situation wasn't a race problem (especially since she's more white than Black lol) but a xenophobia problem.

[@JoyRobles]

Maybe because she was "frog-like" herself -

[@DellaZA]

She was a mean-spirited being. Giving her military generals the commands to install concentration camps in South Africa where thousands of people died in the most deplorable conditions! Both black and white families lost almost all children within weeks and even days of each other. I hope she rots in hell.

[@clivechiam]

Adélle Jerling ironically her daughters all turned out to be good if not great people

[@mira460]

@@clivechiam Her daughter Vickie was also a terrible mother, she couldn't love Wilhelm cause of his diseased arm.

[@italiantraditionalcatholic2390]

You probably are

[@P3891]

Mira Wilhelm was a racist I wouldn’t love him either

[@jazzedaboutcheese]

I'd say Alice was my favorite of the daughters. Such a cool woman. It's a shame her daughter Alexandra ended up so badly.

[@subway830]

wait, what happened to Alexandra?

[@macaroni9023]

@@subway830 her daughter, the Empress Alexandra, was one of the people killed by the Bolsheviks in 1918.

[@subway830]

@@macaroni9023 OMG I didn't know that was her, that's horrible. She deserved better..

[@janinebean4276]

Wow, that portrait of Helena in the black gown is STUNNING. Actually, there are quite a few really gorgeous portraits of the princesses. I just love the painting style of the time. Who knows if they were actually that pretty, or if they just had flattering painters, but the pictures are beautiful!

[@johannah746]

You forget the hospital Alice founded in Darmstadt. It is even named after her and is still one of the best in Darmstadt.

[@silvipeppers]

I was ready to binge the next episode but just realized that you had uploaded this today. Wonderful work as always! Very clear and educational, I'm learning so much from your videos and me and my mom can finally talk about the british monarchy (which she LOVES). Thank you for all the hard work

[@LindsayHoliday]

Thank you, I'm so glad to hear I'm bringing families together! My mom is the first one I let watch my videos!

[@lizzdoe2821]

Oh my gosh me too!!! I was about to cry because I couldn’t see part two 😂

[@scottibrown3274]

Silvi I’m over here looking for the next episode and then I see your comment 😂

[@LindsayHoliday]

Next Tuesday! I'm putting out new royal history videos every Tuesday at 2pm est!

[@emilylloyd-gale6382]

I have a certificate from 1896 signed by Princess Helena for the Royal School of Needlework. It’s the only one of its kind in the world.

[@kia_jones5-17]

I just stumbled upon this channel randomly but I am LIVING for this european historical content! Please keep it up 💕

[@alyssaortiz6059]

Can you do a video on the murder of the romanovs? Don’t get me wrong I love your videos on the British monarchy but I would love to hear you talk about The last Tsar and his family and their murder

[@Francisnotcis]

Nicholas the 2nd deserved it

[@JB-vd8bi]

Theyre all related. Be cool if it was a series on that

[@JB-vd8bi]

@@Francisnotcis those children certainly didn't. The Tsar didn't deserve to die either

[@Francisnotcis]

The Tsar most definitely deserved to die, he was directly responsible for the deaths of thousands of his people. Ever heard of Bloody Sunday? And obviously the children didn't deserve it.

[@harrym7544]

@@Francisnotcis Don't talk nonsense. The Tsar wasn't even at the Winter Palace or in St Petersburg for that matter on bloody Sunday, whilst the document the leader of the march wished to petition the Tsar with was actually revolutionary rather than the mild petition for reform its sometimes characterised as. Nicholas did not do everything right, his Jewish pogroms were of course awful, but that does not justify his dethronement and certainly not his death. If it does then by that logic practically every leader pre-21st century deserves death. Nicholas was actually a devoted and loving father and husband, never had a mistress as was the custom for monarchs at the time, and cared for his people.

[@katharina9405]

Fun Fact: There is a hospital in Darmstadt named after Alice for her determing nursing of injured people - The Alice Hospital 🙈 I live near Darmstadt and I knew about the hospital but had no idea that this Alice was a daughter of Queen Victoria, which is pretty mind blowing right now 😂

[@MA-ck6kq]

Here on my island in the Caribbean one of our main hospitals is named Princess Alice

[@missladymo]

It’s really too bad that mental illness wasn’t as understood back then. Believe me, we still have a long way to go but I just think about how people’s lives and relationships could’ve been happier.

[@lindaackerman4412]

Queen Victoria was something else. Death of a child...."no big deal" Death of a husband...."eternal mourning!"

[@gerardmackay8909]

Not entirely fair. She was ultra protective of Leopold and desperately anxious about his life limiting condition. The death of Alfred when she was dying herself devastated her so ‘no big deal’ is not entirely accurate.

[@MrNhojstrebor]

Lindsay Holiday Well done! This was very well researched and put together bit of History. Congratulations and I hope that you will receive the accolades and support that you deserve.

[@sjk6101983]

My polish great grandparents had 11 kids, including my grandpa who was their oldest boy. I would love to think why my great grandma was so emotionally distant because she raised her brothers, her own kids, her husband, her parents, and a grandson. That takes its toll on someone. My grandpa and his oldest sister took care of her after my great grandpa died. I remember my great grandma a little bit - she died when I was 7. I never met my great grandpa because he died when my mom was a teenager.

[@nicholasmclaine4398]

Hello friend

[@liliannamathers3428]

There are some strong genes in that family. I paused at 6:34 and I see a whole bunch of Windsors in that face. Heck, George V looked like his first cousin, Tsar Nicholas, so much, they look more like brothers than cousins.

[@Puddlesmolly]

Incest.

[@amandagillam8380]

Google Prince Micheal of Kent. He’s a dead ringer for George V and Nikolai II.

[@verucasaltshaker7880]

the irony of alexandria falling for tsar nicholas instead of king george (who queen victoria wanted her to marry) like so u want white bread or raw toast

[@ravenzyblack]

Christine Roberts- No. Their mother’s were sisters. Their father’s were not related.

[@agcwoodham]

Massive inbreeding, unfortunately.

[@helenwoodcock5140]

thankyou for doing this your the only historian who has actually addressed the daughters individually with the family trees at the side it links all the other foreign ,families and marriages cant wait till next part really educational thankyou xx

[@kristi4113]

Had Alice lived, I think her daughter Alix wouldn’t have grown up so shy and timid...and we all know what happened to her eventually due to these traits.

[@rashmeetkaur8131]

She was killed with her family by the Bolsheviks due the the terrible decisions she and her husband took as czar and czarina of Russia check out the last czars on Netflix for more info

[@kristi4113]

BubonicTonic Princess Alice’s daughter Alix of Hesse married Nicholas II of Russia, and her shy nature along with the Victorian influence made her not so well liked by the Russian people, especially the aristocrats. Her husband’s mother was Empress Maria, a Danish princess named Dagmar, that was Alix’s aunt’s sister (Alice’s Brother was Edward VII who married Alexandra of Denmark), and the Danish royals were raised to be well liked. Basically, everyone loved the Dowager Empress Maria, and hated her daughter-in-law.

[@rashmeetkaur8131]

@BubonicTonic well there were many but few examples creating The Duma, decision to fight the war with Japanese against the better judgement of their ministers and then losing that war terribly even they lost most of their Baltic fleet which was considered the most powerful navy fleet , and most especially WW1 where the czar decided to head the army on the eastern front both these wars put enormous pressure on Russian economy and mostly failed the economy and he and Alix did nothing about it and never connected with their people couple this along with Alix's timid and weak personality and czar was also no good was ruled by his wife who believed in the Devine right of the king , then their hemophiliac son and their dependency and eventual manipulation by the Monk Rasputin

[@jordanbee1764]

BubonicTonic She and her husband basically caused the Russian Revolution with their poor judgment and lack of empathy to the working class. Plus, the silly obsession with Rasputin. This all led to the execution of them and their 5 children.

[@clewrites]

I think Alix was a jerk, Nicholas was utterly incompetent and the children were innocent bystanders who had no role in any of this.

[@AnaMendoza-qp8vk]

It would be sooooo cool if we could also have a series on Queen Victoria Grandchildren (or at least the important ones). I love the work, can't wait to watch the next part!

[@LindsayHoliday]

Queen V's grandchildren is coming out in November!

[@AnaMendoza-qp8vk]

@@LindsayHoliday That is so great! Can't wait to watch those! 🤩

[@XaviRonaldo0]

Oh, you mean the people who sent millions of young men and boys into hell for 4 years?

[@ladygossamer5957]

I love to read however I’m 43 and my eyes don’t work great anymore. Thank you I came across this and I love it even more when I can listen to stuff without getting bored, great job .

[@portraitofafreewomanofcolo5404]

Oh God what an Era! If royals had such gloomy lives I cant even imagine the misery of the common people.

[@jedimaster8392]

Since birth control wasn’t very accessible, women of this time seemed to be pregnant all the time. Victoria herself was very upset to have gotten pregnant so quickly after her wedding. She hoped to spend more time with Albert as a newlywed. You always hear about infant mortality rates but I wonder what the maternal death rate was with puerperal fever & lots of infrequent handwashing !

[@Angel-ts8rc]

In the Victorian era it’s estimated every 100th birth ended in death. There were many causes, such as the unfortunate fact that science and medicine innovates over time and there was much people did not know or had invented- today many conditions developed during pregnancy and labor even high risk ones can be resolved. C sections existed but they were only used if they was a guarantee the baby would live, most mothers didn’t survive them. Today it’s a fairly safe and simple procedure even in emergencies. Poor hygiene by doctors nurses and moms was also a factor. Infection rates were high. Ppl were dirty…

[@jaojao1768]

3:18 He was king Wilhelm I, Wilhelm II was Victoria's son, the one with the damaged arm

[@JB-vd8bi]

That part is so muddled

[@thegamerteo0560]

He was his first grandson not son!

[@EmeraldAngelEyes]

Yes, please change this. I know it is easy to get mixed up when so many royals have the same names.

[@meisterl0]

Alice was both beautiful and kind despite being a royal. Best girl.

[@erinjohnson1124]

I really enjoy your videos. I’m a big nerd about monarchies and this is just top notch stuff. Thank you so much!

[@FM-dk1vp]

Victoria was a nympho for Albert. Pregnancy and children were just consequences of their affections. What a sad family condition.

[@TheVampireLily]

Q. Victoria commissioned a statue to honour the 5 grandchildren she lost but wasn't at all empathetic to their mothers upon losing them.

[@jg2783]

Yes, I wonder about that. Did she actually care deeply, but was one of those emotionally stunted people that when loved ones grieve, become angry because they feel powerless to fix it, and so just want said loved one to "get over it"? She just reads to me as a really stunted, emotionally damaged person, although I'm not at all condoning her failings as a mother.

[@thunderbird1921]

Hard to say. We must remember Victoria had a HORRIBLE relationship with her mother (among others) for years and may have been unsure how to handle being a mother herself. It doesn't excuse all her actions, but it does help to understand a lot of them. There is evidence she used pleasure drugs (such as opium-spiked alcohol), so perhaps she had more serious mental and depression issues than she or the family let on. Albert was definitely a stabilizer while he was alive.

[@stephmcqueen2353]

I’m enthralled! I immediately searched for part 2, then noticed the vid was posted 6 hours ago🥰🥰🥰 the content had me glued! My fascination with British monarchy led me to your video! 💂🏻‍♀️💂🏻‍♀️💂🏻‍♀️👸🏻🤴🏻💂🏻‍♀️💂🏻‍♀️💂🏻‍♀️

[@cassyclim8]

I was looking for part 2 but realized you just uploaded this. Thank you!

[@ianjohnboy]

ive always found it fascinating how americans are so enthralled with our royal family and history of my country,but then again im just as fascinated with native american culture and history so i guess we are even lol

[@EriBarr]

ianjohnboy I’m Mexican and can say I know more about your royal family and the history of your country, than that of my own. Ive always had a yearning in my heart when reading or researching Great Britain, a longing to go home, yet have never been there?

[@crystalclear8859]

I'm this nationality, I'm that 'breed'....WHO CARES - As, we're ALL HUMAN. Get off your high horse and look at the bigger picture of reality.

[@somehuman7248]

Crystal Clear Dude tf are you talking about? Lmaooo chill

[@Khloe_dancer_model]

Well,the UK IS after all,the father of the USA.👍

[@queenofkingsbury]

It is wonderful to learn about different countries and cultures. The British Royal Family is like the Best Soap Opera ever written!

[@rei_cirith]

I wonder what would have been had Albert not died. He seemed to see and encourage the best in people, and he would have been able to support Queen Vic like no one else.

[@ambreeniram2268]

Princess Alice being called a cow for feeding her own baby. Tragic how she died so young. It's really sad Princess Victoria was neglected by her terrible son. Royals had enormous luxuries but personally they had tenuous lives.

[@bentaylor6078]

Please do king George lll or Maria Theresa's daughters

[@fishstix8025]

There's so many of them but I'd love to see it too!

[@rosix7539]

Yeah!!❤

[@bentaylor6078]

@NEGUS MBARKA no I'm good I want to see it

[@katierasburn1093]

Ben Taylor George III is my favourite, he did so much in his lifetime but he’s only known for going mad

[@liliannamathers3428]

Katie, I agree! And so few people by care to learn beyond what they saw in a movie. When I talk about British History, I always have to mention about three movies or no one knows who I'm talking about.

[@MFO6]

My first visit to your channel. I'm so glad I decided to watch this video! I found it very interesting! Can't wait for part 2.

[@GavinsMarineMom]

I thought perhaps it would be mentioned that Alice was the great grandmother of Queen Elizabeth II's husband, Prince Philip, The Duke of Edinburgh.😊

[@LindsayHoliday]

I'm doing more videos about Queen Victoria's 42 grandchild where I'll get into all the connections to modern royalty.

[@GabrielleHayes1921]

I use to like Queen Victoria....nevermind, how evil can one be to basically tell a mother who lost their child to get over it 😡 disgusting.

[@jaycuzman625]

We don't know for a fact that she wrote that, or if it was taking out of context vof the full letter Victoria had written.

[@Amoraine]

After hearing how Queen Victoria acted...I REALLY want to say that she had Borderline Personality Disorder. I have a mother who has this (not diagnosed, of course, but I know the symptoms)....it is incredibly difficult to deal with someone who has this disorder....and it can tear apart lives. These people are only centered on themselves and make sure that everyone around them is suffering along with them.

[@christianscott4955]

Could you please do a series on the daughters-in-law of Queen Victoria and her relationship with them.

[@trojanette8345]

Loads of information you gave. Very well researched. You 'spelled out' for the viewer and listener a lot of facts that (as far as I am aware not many in America, for example) never specifically heard. Oh, I suppose one could guess that with the various countries that were 'awarded' her daughters that rivalries, dislikes, and acrimony were bound to ensue. However, I don't think that very many people were aware of just how deep it ran. This was a very enlightening piece overall. Can't wait for Part 2. Thanks for sharing.

[@hillyplays29]

Alice also had a namesake: Alix or Alexandra, empress of Russia.

[@omartilata4833]

Hillary yes she named her youngest child after her and her sisters. Alix (For Alice) Victoria Helena Louise Beatrice

[@hillyplays29]

Omar Tilata yup. Victoria died when Alix was pregnant with her youngest daughter. She was discouraged from attending the funeral.

[@TracyD2]

Sounds like my mum. I was not to show her any happiness towards my own life. She only responded when I emphasized any of my problems.

[@gwae48]

Thanks!

[@AmandaBeeRekendwith]

Well done, Lindsay Holiday. You cover a LOT of wonderful detail at a brisk pace. Very well researched. Looking forward to Part 2.

[@FrazBB]

Love this! Been waiting for one about Victoria’s kids and the dynastic links into the 1900s!!

[@ciyapciyap3458]

Thank you so much for this video! They are very interesting and educational, and you have a very pleasant voice. Thumbs up and keep it up~ Will be waiting for the next video!

[@angelicaspages]

Victoria: Ok you guys can marry for love.... But I get to pick them. 😂

[@shannonfick7170]

It sounds like Vicky and Alice were the revolutionaries they needed. Alice clearly disagreed with the status quo, but she was still somehow able to keep a tender, caring heart. And maybe Vicky was “the brains” and more confident about speaking her mind. It sounds like both eldest girls knew what needed to be done for their family and for their nations, but both went about it differently

[@kerstincole6727]

The building shown as Alice's home in Darmstadt is not her home. She lived across the shown building in a beautiful castle.

[@tricelee8193]

What about her adopted daughter Sarah? The young slave girl whom she wanted to make her own??

[@idkwhatimdoinghere66]

Spaceballs Hippy that was her goddaughter

[@LaDonna_Arcona]

She wasn’t a slave girl. She was a princess in her home country. Her family was killed and she put into captivity until the British captain came and was “gifted” (for the queen)the young princess. Queen Victoria instantly loved , respected her and made sure she lived the life the little girl deserved. I wish Disney or someone would tell her story

[@elisejackson2854]

she was a princess, not a slave.

[@emilyfouquettehoffman7886]

I didn’t know about her! That would be a great video!

[@maggiemae7749]

@@LaDonna_Arcona yes she was a slave and princess she was gifted to Victoria. She was property

[@maryallison0509]

I'm so happy I discovered your channel. I've been binge watching you all afternoon. I love the details you put in and your cheerful voice. Thank you and I just subscibed and turned on notifications.

[@julesvillega]

oh wow, victoria was a horrible mother. Imagine how hurt vicky must've felt after being told by her own mom that losing a child is not that big of a deal.

[@wilmafistfit4788]

Your videos are fascinating! Like a fabulous well researched podcast with pictures

[@spaghettiappletaterghost1009]

I can’t imagine what getting the kids to sit for portraits was like. Like Jesus I can’t even get my little siblings to sit still for one second!

[@arlequinacontostavlos2100]

Victoria was not a terrible mother. She had a difficult childhood, a scheming mother, she didn't meet her father, had no siblings or friends of the same age... I think she tried her best. Disliking pregnancy does not make her a bad mother. Many women think the same. What she said to Vicky about her grandson was definitely horrible, but she hadn't lost any child by then. All the kids that died before her, died much later, so she had no clue. Of course she could've been sympathetic, but maybe she changed her mind afterwards. After the loss of two sons and a daughter. It probably was a big strike.

[@saygoodbyetofate]

Eagerly went to watch part 2, realized this is a brand new video!!

[@margadam6358]

Alice was the grandmother of the Romanov girls ( and boy). This family started my fascination,,,leading to Queen Victoria. This site makes it so easy to grasp

[@OK-kq7tu]

I’ve been binge watching your channel, I really like how you put these together. Very easy to follow and calming music too! 🥰

[@misoginainternalizadaopres7131]

I have a HUGE respect for Bismarck but what he did for Victoria (daughter) and her husband was utterly terrible and sad

[@banbasafro]

queen victoria’s granddaughters one day perhaps? also, if you are interested in doing a video about the romanovs as i see suggested in your comments, i would love to help out- i have been studying them for years now.

[@LindsayHoliday]

Working on the grandkids now. Will be out in November!

[@banbasafro]

@@LindsayHoliday oh yay! i love your videos. it is so lovely hearing a woman's voice narrate for once.

[@MsFunnyfeet]

Lindsay Holiday I’m new here (you’ll see by the comment I posted) and I wondered if you were going to do a video (or if you have already made one and I haven’t seen it on your list yet as I’m binge watching them) on Prince Albert or Bertie as he was called, Queen Victoria’s son, who was thought to be the real Jack the Ripped. From what I’ve read so far, and heard when I was visiting England, he didn’t to the actual murders, but he was involved in some way, because he got a Catholic prostitute pregnant and Parliament and the Royals thought it was a threat to the monarchy. So, ‘they’ murdered the woman, her baby disappeared, and all of her friends with knowledge about the situation were also murdered. Can you do a video about that and other theories? Thanks for all of your hard work researching and putting together these videos! And in love the music accompanying them! Cheers! (Oh, and when we were visiting the graves, people pointed at Bertie’s headstone and commented that he was the real Jack the Ripper via others doing the actual murders. Sorry so long a comment)

[@machigiceb7788]

theirs is the most depressing story ever, i felt so sad for the romanov kids

[@Lu-zj6bo]

Just found your channel and after this wonderful video, instantly subscribed. I absolutely loved your narration and the entire video is just excellent quality. I’m eagerly awaiting part 2 of this story! Thank you for sharing! Now I shall binge watch your previous videos...

[@BrandyD1777]

I appreciate you releasing 2nd part. Not all join, can nor want the join, patreon aspect. Thank you, new subber and enjoying your videos! Detailed and imo, just quick facts that take us thru the years without each month detailed and give us understanding instead of leaving us with questions

[@lisaanderson758]

So much pain in that family. So sad. Thanks for the footage🇬🇧❤️

[@susannebemis3311]

Some of my relatives (won't say who) were utterly disgusted by my breastfeeding my five children. Funny to hear that Queen Vicky got pissy about it too! All my kids did well: no diaper rash, good teeth and skin, and one was a State Champion twice! He and his sister were also State Runner-ups in sports. The 2nd son was the only male athlete to qualify for districts in two separate sports in 2005. The two remaining daughters were standouts in cross-country and did well in athletic events in the Navy! I'd say it worked!

[@m.woodsrobinson9244]

It's funny how attitudes towards breast feeding have changed. Back then, it was considered the height of bad taste for a woman of a certain class to breastfeed. If only they knew then what we know now! And I couldn't imagine letting my children breastfeed from some strange woman, wet nurse or not!

[@Khloe_dancer_model]

Delirious Delirious right?! The gene pool would have been waaaay better

[@susannebemis3311]

@Omara Oliver they are doing ok and thanks for asking!

[@jg2783]

@@susannebemis3311 Hats off to you Susanne, breastfeeding advocate and smasher of internet trolls!

[@susannebemis3311]

@@jg2783 thanks for your kind words! my niece and youngest daughter have had good success with breastfeeding too! Their babies are healthy and beautiful!

[@torisfilm1638]

I don’t know if anyone agrees with me, but my personal opinion is that Queen Victoria’s eldest daughter, Vicky, was the most beautiful of all the daughters.

[@Condesamontes]

I’m a 70’s baby, my Mother said breastfeeding was repulsive. I nursed all of mine. Trends change. 💙

[@rabidheartbeats5953]

Queen Victoria had a daughter named Alice (Grand Duchess of Hesse) who had a daughter named Victoria (of Hesse and by Rhine) who had a daughter named Alice (Princess Alice of Battenberg, mother of Prince Philip).

[@Nae9211]

I just love vids like this… I don’t know why I love history so much. I despised it in high school, but absolutely love it now

[@corinadarie6658]

Amazing!! I can't wait for the sons, because Romania's queen Maria was the daughter of Alfred and generally speaking it's awesome learning about all these people.

[@annm861]

Do Maria Theresa’s daughters and Queen Victoria’s sons

[@franciscomendes3214]

I waited for this episode for so long! Could you make a series explaining the queen consorts of Great Britain like from where they were from, they're parents, etc.. And in the future focus on other series of kings and queens of other countries...like the Portuguese which is very interesting! Thanks

[@l.capewell7970]

"When teased by an older brother she punched him in the nose" it was Alfred, nobody steals my teddies. 😌