Queen Victoria's Daughters, Part 2

[@TheMissVenise]

Why do I feel like it's supremely ironic that Victoria said women can't and/or shouldn't vote, yet she is a female monarch who's trying to get away from the "women should not be a monarch" archetype. Like HEH WHA

[@ayandasperanza530]

I was thinking the same thing, she literally had the power to give the women's suffrage movement a massive boost. That could have been her legacy ... or she could have at least quietly allowed her daughter to run with it.

[@rebekahmaclean7660]

What's also funny is that there's been some exhibitions and articles about Victoria recently painting her as a "feminist queen" when she actually said if women were to "unsex" themselves by claiming equality, they "would become the most hateful, heathen and disgusting of beings and would surely perish without male protection". I don't know about anybody else, but that statement doesn't exactly scream feminism to me, lol.

[@idontgiveafaboutyou]

Because she was from a different generation that wasn’t for womens rights

[@ManoloGal]

Because she was queen by Divine Right which is what Royals back then believed separated them from their people.

[@NicoleM2108]

@@ManoloGal Exactly! To say that other women "mere mortals" should be even compared to her would literally be sacrilege. In her eyes, she and her progeny were beyond reproach.

[@autumnfranklin6790]

Queen Victoria: *tells her oldest child the death of a child is nothing to the loss of a husband* Also Queen Victoria: *bursts into tears when her child gets married*

[@sunitafisher4758]

🌸 losing your own child is worse than any other sorrow She’s an ass

[@cherryblossom2494]

Well Victoria was a nutjob

[@swastikqjana7128]

She was very self centered she only cried because if her younger daughter would get married and lived happily she wouldn't have any chance for getting all the attention Beatrice gave her through out all those years...I wonder even having this kinda uncompassionate mother how her most of the daughters were very empathetic,compassionate??! O yeah!! Obviously Thier father, Albert was great...say hello to his good genes...

[@juneremmers8476]

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[@brindade2004]

That was Victoria. Actually when she told this to Victoria, her eldest daughter she still couldn't come to terms with her Husband's death. She said that without thinking much. That doesn't mean that she was a hypocrite. Afterwards she hated to marry of her daughters and kept them close after marriage. Many of her granddaughters also stayed close to her after marriage. She shouldn't be blamed for she didn't intend to mean it and was heart broken at that time.

[@vinny9868]

"Nevermind, I'll outlive you all." Is now my go to phrase when people judge my diet

[@Yogirliej4dee]

What is funny about her was that not having kids made her the longest living of the siblings and the most athletic looking

[@leahryan5560]

BellRain Chan: No, she and Prince Arthur were the same age to the day, 91 years, 8 months, and 15 days, when they died. Beatrice was the last surviving child, dying in 1944 at the age of 87.

[@joebloggs619]

A healthy diet that enables a good long life is better than one that merely makes a woman look good eg slim. Though concepts of weight and female figure beauty have varied over the ages. The slim figurw we considersexy now would have probably been consider too skinny in a previous age. I was partly raised by a very elderly lady born in the late 1800's. She described obese other women in town as "stout". Then she would look at me and te me I look "like a thin fence paling board". She believed I was too thin. But I thought I was still too fat, despite my 19 inch waist and justkept tieting because other girls my age who did not have my hourglass figure type kept telling me I had "big hips and boobs". They were tall, thin willowy Aussie types, but I was only 5'3" or so. Theold ladyand I had manydisagreements over my "very thin body" as she cooked up even more sago pudding doused in freshly scalded rich country cream,to make me "more stout" and give me a "more feminine form", but I was trying to get rid of my hips and boobs and be more like the 60's model "Twiggy" whom the girls aspired to look like. With a tiny hour glass body type I had no hope, given that she was tall and willowy by build, but I wanted to wear the same fashions as her and get the same hair style. The old lady would shake her head in despair and sigh "The young women nowadays... No femininty about them... This is how a gentlewoman ought to appear...". She would then show me old ornately framed portraitsof herself, looking exquisite beside her long deceased husband, looking a lot like Queen Victoria's era women, in those in long dresses etc. And, whilst obese, definitely not as slim as women nowadays aspire to be. Even then, they did female fitness eg horseriding, to get nice legs and walking for good ankles. Youcouldn't simply be just "stout" ie flabbyfat. It had to be nicely rounded plump, firm weight. So they played variius appropriate all ladies only sports of an afternoon eg croquet. I saw old local photos of them doing "ladies' sports", in these long white cotton dresses and wondered how they could possibly play dports inthese long dresses. Or ridehorses, which called for a special kind of long skirt and "riding habit", a special short jacket they wore, as they rode sitting sideways onthe horse not straddling it in a "most unladylike way", which was reputed to causeloss of virginity before marriage and render you inmarriagable. These jacets were often made of velvet or wool or tartans etc. I also saw old local pics of women at the local beaches and they were fully dressed in these long dresses, often white or sea blue, strolling with men or their girlfriends etc or little dogs, with their parasols up as sunprotection. No idea how they managed with these flimsy parasols and the big sea winds thatcan suddenly bow strong and invert any umbrellas. And I saw pictures of Melbourne city women inthe latest fashion "swimsuits", which were literally quite a swimming "suit" because they looked so big and bulky. Not dure what fabric but it looked like knitted wool and they went fromyour knees right up to your neck. I asked the old lady I lived with why they didn't wear a bikini,like the skimpy white one I had as a teen. "Ladies protect their body from cold water and are never seen in public wearing their white underwear unmentionables" was her stern reply as she looked at my white skimpy bikini hanging on the clothes line to dry out after a swim in the surf beach. And then she looked away in strong disapproval and disgust. About "the women of today...". I liked her but I thought she was "strange". I didn't understand her era. She didnot understand ours. But, despite all this vast ages chasm, we still were very fond of each other as women because, even for her era, she had been a rebel, like me. She had run away from an affluent Melbourne family to marrya local country man they disapproved of and settled down with him inthe bush and raised a family, outliving them all, including her sons she lost to cancer and her handsome country man ruggedhusband, who died of tuberculosis. I often spent hours staring at her family portraitsshe had done of them,listening to her talk aboutlife inher youth. It was fascinating. The attitudes etc. She was especially keen onpolitical subjects and definitely aware of all the politicians's views because she would lean over me as I did my Australian history homework about some political leader who was still alive in her youthand she would make comments like "Oh, don't take any notice of him. He was no good. He should have never got in..." Itwas fascinating. I mean, the idea ofher being alive at the same time as these characters on the pages of my history books. It used to really kind of freak me out as a young school girl... Then she'd tell me about all the bad government policies of the era and I'd be studying in my history text books about how the general population were not happy about certain government policies. And here is this member of that same population as the the history books mentioned, expressing her strong pilitical disapproval of these policies, right here, alive, right now. Talk about "living history"! I was never a great history enthusiast time, beingmore of a present or futuristic type personality, but such an experience really did really blow my tiny bird brain teenage schoolgirl mind away...I felt so lucky 6o have known someone who was alive "last century". Few others of my peers could boast of having had such an experience of "living history". Next day at school boring history would ask if I had done the history homework. "Nope" I'd reply. "Too much other stuff to do..." Ireally fidn't give a damn about the history homework. Who needed to do history homework when you shared a roof with real ie "living history"? I figured....Andkept asking the old ladyabout how things were when she was young and what it was like, her parents, their rules, falling in love, getting married, having babies etc etc. And how come she never remarried and why she always referred to a particular other male tenant, a stern Freemason she had as Mr.... And why we were to 'make ourselves sparse" as women and avoid eye contact, only speak when spoken to and answer any questions with as few words as possible in dealing with men. To avoid being "misjudged", presumably...

[@steshka1015]

I like that line too... It's a relevant answer nowadays against our bashers and shaders.

[@Tyler380]

91 years old...

[@gillianbrookwell1678]

Queen Victoria was very selfish with her daughters and expected too much from them. She used the Poor Me Sympathy card throughout her life.

[@ravenzyblack]

Gillian Brookwell- I disagree. With great privilege comes great responsibility. All of them are born into notability. They were Royals who were waited on hand and foot their whole lives. They never had to worry about money, food, or shelter. They were pampered for being born the sons and daughters of a Queen.

[@brendadrumm9708]

So true she ignored her children when Albert died what. Mum puts a husband before her children a very selfish and ugly woman

[@supernova7848]

She’s seems like a covert narcissist

[@ravenzyblack]

Kandy Kandy- You do realize you were judging a woman by the standards of today, and not by the standards of that time, right? It was a time when “children were meant to be seen and not heard,” and yet queen Victoria gave a lot of deference to her own children. Some of them went on to be great rulers themselves. Beloved by the people they ruled over. Sensitivity is overrated. It only ends up with people like you, bitching about shit that happened decades ago. Projecting your insecurities and narcissism on others.

[@fanimegrrl13]

I'm convinced she just needed something to bitch about. Having been one of the most powerful and richest person in the land, there isn't much she can complain about.

[@AdamAdam-yo8zy]

Henry: Shit, gotta go. My mother-in-law's calling me for dinner. Friend: Huh? But your phone wasn't ringing. Henry: See that warship over there?

[@obsessivefangirl5055]

LMAO!

[@artsyhyd]

😂😂😂

[@TheKaren_makeup]

🤣🤣🤣🚢

[@drownedinnostalgia3433]

😂😂😂

[@P4uLy-u4w]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@loveoffthedamned]

Queen Victoria ain`t getting a "Best Mom" mug

[@vanessasoto4046]

Alina Nikulina Or Queen Victoria’s Mother XD

[@fredrika27]

Not only that we can see why Edward VIII came out like he did with such negligent parents.and grandparents!

[@ayandasperanza530]

It's sad , she was actually worse than her own mother ... 9 times over

[@raeannhoward2231]

@@ayandasperanza530 yes she was ... Its sad how much she didn't really show them love but her husband was a different story she loved him and never got over losing him ...

[@SirParcifal]

Victorias mom was a controlling narcissist.

[@TheVampireLily]

"Never mind! I'll outlive you all!" You go, gurl...you were true to your word.

[@kstormgeistgem461]

[chuckles] i very nearly cheered out loud to that one as well. but it's one in the morning and i felt waking the household would rather be the opposite of what she was talking about. x1

[@frostrose8222]

Nice to know I live in a province named after such as boss of a women.

[@kmgirl1967]

She surely was!!!

[@kmgirl1967]

She turned out to be True to her words!!! You go girl friend!!!

[@diaquallo]

Real!

[@goldiefatale]

good grief the queen was way extra. she was an non attentive mom to her young children but then expected they to dote on her.

[@iloveyourunclebob]

She sadly turned into an even worse version of her mother.

[@dawnheller7742]

My mother is the exactly the same way

[@roxyroxelle]

she disliked babies but she was a giant baby herself.

[@barbarat5729]

So this narrator says. We don't know if that's true. Do you think one of her daughter's would have sent HER daughters to live with her if she were so horrible? I'm not even English and I'm ashamed of this Queen Victoria bashing. She was a human being who had NO parental examples. She was also a victim of the times and attitudes toward women, and expectations of royalty.

[@iloveyourunclebob]

@@barbarat5729 In just one of many examples, in a letter she told one of her daughters that losing a child was nothing compared to losing a husband. I'm also not English and Victoria is actually my favorite monarch. I've spent a lot of time researching her. She was kind of a shitty person. It's just the truth and I definitely do not see a point in sugar coating it when that will make it an untrue version of history. She was fascinating, amazing, selfish, and horrible.

[@elizawills7729]

"At 18 Louise began an affair with her younger brother-" whaaa "-'s tutor" oooooh

[@emisthem6562]

Yeah, those kinds of moments make me panic: like, dude, say 'with the tutor of her younger brother' - not difficult and it'll stop me from disliking in a tizzy

[@cretians]

Eliza Wills haha we are expecting to hear that though 😂

[@elizawills7729]

@@cretians honestly with the other weird things that her family got up to I thought it might as well have happened 😂

[@zekec6088]

@@emisthem6562 that's really nothing compared to the millions of indigenous people they slaughtered for no reason, but okay 👌

[@zekec6088]

@@emisthem6562 not that you dont have a right to your tizzy.... you just pick pretty odd, random, nonsensical things to tizzy about, in perspective.

[@rei_cirith]

Man... Victoria and Albert's relationship sounds like a fantasy, but she sounds like an extremely emotionally unhealthy woman.

[@tiffanysamuels279]

It comes down to the fact that she only interacted with servants and people who only wanted her for her crown. If her father had lived he wouldn't allow that mess her mother did happened. But he wasn't so everyone in her life had made sure she was dependent on them so she will have issues ruling by herself and to some extent they did it. Not in the way they wanted but they did.

[@SirAgravaine]

She definitely had unhealthy co-dependent relationships once she became queen. She was raised in virtual isolation as a child since she was the only heir to the British throne.

[@sk8terx82]

Katherine Hobbes yes Albert certainly continue this emotional manipulation and her frequent pregnancies limited her also.

[@RaiLen0]

She was lol...

[@adowns110179]

Her "love" has impacted Western culture to this day. It's because of her view of love & marriage we have certain cultural restraints on or with respect to how we view love, marriage, sex, etc.

[@UFO963]

Poor Beatrice... Her own mother robbed her of her freedom and self-identify

[@rml2765]

For the longest time I thought Alberta (Canadian province) was named after Prince Albert but it was was pleasantly surprised when my home province was named for a Princess suffragette, sculptor

[@weltonvillegal6258]

Beatrice, Nebraska was named for Princess Beatrice. Some Americans were in London when she was born and honored her that way.

[@rosysultana8965]

Same

[@thecubingprofessor4503]

Yeah, it’s so cool - I also live in Alberta.

[@rml2765]

@samantha ssmith kinda but not really, it was for Princess Louise Caroline Alberta, but she was named after her dad in the feminized name! So in a way it’s named after him as well 🤷‍♀️

[@sleepybunny2]

The princesses were made much prettier in the paintings than the photos.

[@kaileealtman9630]

Well if you were a royal portrait painter and you painted them not pretty, do you really think you'd get away easy?

[@tiyab3104]

Always!! Photo shop is nothimg new.

[@SammyKitty92]

I think Louise looks pretty in her pictures too, I think she looks most like her paintings compared to her sisters.

[@manoramag5747]

Old age photo filters

[@kerawrpi]

@Believe on Jesus Christ For Eternal Life extreme is a strong word, they didn't even look that bad-

[@DominiqueNoel0]

You know someone's truly annoying and insufferable when you'd rather go to war and die than stay with them ^^;

[@varshakurlekar2]

😂😂😂

[@trinathompson5656]

🤣😂😂😂😂

[@dvajstdevet950]

Do my eyes deceive me or do all the daughters look almost identical?

[@idkwhatimdoinghere66]

Dvajst Devet yeah the only one that looks different is Alice

[@brunoav6999]

Because mom and dad were first cousins. Familial features. In breeding at its finest.

[@idontgiveafaboutyou]

Dvajst Devet well they were sisters lol

[@Patrick3183]

They were sisters lol. But yes Helena And Beatrice looked a lot alike to me

[@tfuntowatch]

Dvajst Devet Yes, all are very similar, hard to differentiate them.

[@spaghettiappletaterghost1009]

“Never mind, I’ll outlive you all!” And she did. Queen without a crown

[@wishbonealdc4762]

She didn’t outlive them all, Arthur and Beatrice outlived her. I do love Louise though 🤩

[@pancake-z1l]

@Wishbone ALDC Though, she did live the oldest out of all her siblings; she was 91 when she died."

[@leahryan5560]

@@pancake-z1l: Arthur was the exact same age to the day as Louise when he died, so it’s a tie.

[@pancake-z1l]

@Leah Ryan Yeah, I noticed that, lol.

[@ActuallyDoubleGuitars]

Wow Louise sounded so cool, Wish their was a movie about her.

[@sk8terx82]

Her life is just recently being revealed, it’s clear now she had an affair with one of the Royal tutors that resulted in a pregnancy that was kept secret for more than 100 years. A child mysteriously is adopted by one of the Royal doctors and documents from the years 1865, 1866 don’t have Louise wears bouts, also her will has just been released almost 80 years after her death. She left a fortune of almost 300,000 points worth almost 80 million in today’s money and interestedly several names have been redacted which could have been her child and his offerspring by that time

[@camichiBichi]

She said there is a book about her...

[@fereadss]

i want to be a movie director, and if that happens, one day i will make a movie about her life lol (i would like to call it Miss Why)

[@boopdino8053]

We also need a book about her sister alice,she sounds like an amazing person

[@bennettabeason9771]

What does say if you'd rather go to war then hangout with your mother in law

[@samiam619]

Bennetta Beason War... can be an adventure.

[@murieltainter5936]

Bennetta Beason...I had a brother-in-law who said "I'm either going back to Viet Nam for a third time or get a divorce...think I'll get a divorce"

[@IBeMelissa]

I'm surprised Victoria survived birthing 9 children in her lifetime. Still, all her children suffered tremendously in the end.

[@elamplough1]

What I find more surprising is that every one of them survived childhood. Babies in Victorian society suffered an appalling mortality, whether rich or poor. About a third of the children born during the 1800s died before the age of five and Victoria was the first queen of England to see all of her children live into adulthood. You could consider them pretty lucky when looking at it from that point of view.

[@andrepettersson175]

Well it did have some consequences i think... if i remember correctly there is a rumor that she had somekind of problem with her uterus in later years. Don't quote me on it but i think she had a prolapsed uterus or something.

[@user-gm6ho9sq2v]

From what I have read on the history of royalty and seen in the videos, some of their deaths sounded quite needless and preventable, while others of course were murders. It's as if not even being royal could save them.

[@unmasflojomidgewidge]

This was awesome. I didn’t know that Beatrice edited Victoria’s journals and was shocked to hear that so much of them was purposefully destroyed by her. It always upsets me to think about how much we would know if records weren’t destroyed so haphazardly like this.

[@marietgagliardi]

One wonders of Beatrice destroyed her journals so that thd world wouldn't know how selfish she really was

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

​@@marietgagliardi I don't know. She removed everything that had to do with John Brown and Abdul Kareem. She also erased and edited some secrets about her father, apparently. So we'll never know for sure why Princess Beatrice burned and edited Queen Victoria's journals.

[@zzzbbbooo]

@@PrincessQ-fj9ly Victoria instructed Beatrice before she died about exactly what she wanted removed from her journals. It wasn't just done haphazardly.

[@tiffanysamuels279]

No offense to people knocking down Victoria as a parent but for her time she and Albert were amazing parents. They educated and socialize with their kids. Gave their daughters an education that rivals a son so one day she won't look dumb in public like Victoria did so many times. Be fair because the idea of motherhood if were going to be real is so modern, things like a mother needs to always be there, comfort and love wasn't something people did. It wasn't the cultural norm, as messed up as Victoria responses to her kids was you got to take into factor that she had said goodbye to her kids especially the girls mentally so long ago it wasn't even funny. That's how monarch work, she knew she will never see her daughters for only a handful of weeks for years. That's why she's a better grandmother than mother because she actually was able to create a stable bond.

[@elamplough1]

Victoria was sure a complex character, perhaps it's not fair to call her either a good parent or a bad one. There are a number of aspects of motherhood she was openly displeased by but she was undeniably fond of her children. Albert's participation in raising them was frequently remarked upon-he was not only present for all of their births (an oddity for the time period) he also took an active role in their clothing, care, and education. His involvement wasn't without its pitfalls though, particularly for young Bertie and Alfred who were subjected to corporal punishment when they failed to achieve the high standards their father had set. No family is entirely happy but Victoria and Albert's kids didn't exactly have miserable childhoods.

[@annmalone1585]

They displayed all the treats of authoritarian narcissistic parents, mostly Queen Victoria, but I guess most of parents were like that in those days... even today

[@deedeedan8681]

She gave her daughter the silent treatment For seven months Because the girl wanted to get married

[@desertdaisymarie6951]

Anyone who says that the death of a husband is worse than the death of a child isn’t worth a pinch of shit..

[@savannahskye6279]

I agree ... The comment daying she wasnt worth i believe a"pinch of shit" sounds like someone whod call the cops on a parent for telling their 3 yr old son boys dont wear skirts cuz the child being traumatized by being taken away and experiencing losing parents whethet for a few days or however long is more sensical to them than realizing no parents are perfect...maybe they should go back and watch the video abt queen victorias shitty childhood which left her completely devoid of any maternal influence...the way she knew to do her best was giving those kids a world renowned education and aside from being the probably super typical WASP old lady widow with annoying swlf absorbed tendencies she never abused them nor really stood for anyone else to disrespect them...plus not once did i hear she ever turn down taking any of her like 50 grandkids into her care for indefinite lengths of time Yeah sounds like that persons comment is an insult to all our old fierce grumpy loving grannies out there....and the comment section of our crown jewel Lindsay Holiday is NOT the place for that kind of tom foolery

[@nicolasvernola2637]

On the one hand, Queen Victoria is one of my favourites monarchs in world history, since I am pretty attracted in her life and the Victorian Age. There are some personality traits I really appreciate of her and I consider progressive and modern. She took chloroform during the childbirth of her last two children although the Church was against it. She was a witty and charming Queen loving dancing until midnight and chattering about things with her ladies- in- waiting. In addition, she hated racism and treated foreigners respectfully and was curious about learning about new cultures. She was passionate and emotional, so that 's why many people are able to think in her shoes nowadays. However, on the other hand, she was a controlling, dominating and selfish woman who found it difficult to take the feelings of other people into consideration. She became that kind of mother that she extremely disliked of her own mother, the Duchess of Kent. Her mother was also manipulating through the influence of her advisor John Conroy. I admit that she was not a decent mother, but she deeply loved them. But it is clear to claim that she loved her husband Albert more and that she often saw her children as a pain between the love of the two. However, since she contained these appalling traits and flaws, she is so fascinating for me.

[@obsessivefangirl5055]

Exactly! Victoria's flaws are what make her so fascinating.

[@meaowsandwhistles]

gosh queen vic has a slight smile on her face in the pic with beatrice after beatrices husband died, like its made her day to have someone feel the way she does

[@di7209]

I noticed that too! She really ruined that poor girls life until she was just like her

[@alyssao517]

Why do I oddly stan Louise, like she was so ahead of her time! She was a feminist, non racist, was a health freak & was sassy.

[@zzzbbbooo]

Well, many royals including Queen Victoria were "non racist" too but it seems only the worst character traits of people like her are constantly highlighted and not the best, leading people to genuinely believe she was an ogre...which she wasn't at all!

[@incognitoburrito7458]

When you have so many kids you need a two part video talking about them

[@carinetang776]

It's going to be at least 3 parts...so far she's only covered the girls!

[@ravenzyblack]

Incognito Burrito- In that time period nine children were not a lot. My grandmother, not great grandmother, had 12 children that survived to adulthood. There is a 20 year age gap between my oldest aunt and youngest aunt. Large families were the norm back then.

[@kasianyland9248]

And that’s just the daughters

[@Seiferboi]

My great-something grandparents had 27 kids together! They come from the Amish so large families are common. But, 27?!

[@tokyomilmil]

@@Seiferboi Dayuuuum! Your granny must run her family like a teacher with her class 😂😂

[@AurumEtAes]

it’s so sad that the journals of the Queen during such a long period of British history have been destroyed. It would have been interesting to know what she really thought about the decades of wars and political and social changes that occurred through her reign

[@sk8terx82]

Lots of secrets too, she likely was very detailed about her sex life with Prince Albert, her feelings about politicians of the various eras.. etec.

[@arlenekelly4267]

Yes.

[@arlenekelly4267]

A. Huge. Loss.........Girlsontheprairie

[@qiranchen8163]

It's probably not something that would be consider proper or regal in that time, so Beatrice felt the need of destroying it. I'm very curious of what she wrote.

[@andrepettersson175]

"Sent a warship to bring him home"... talk about flexing

[@petpurrveyor895]

Very interesting! When will the video about her grandchildren arrive?

[@sk8terx82]

To many to follow, with the exception of Louise who had an illegitimate child we have learned recently the other 8 children all had several children

[@LoyalHistoryBuff]

sk8terx82 Where do you hear that from? Louise died childless. There is no evidence of Louise having an illegitimate child, it would be impossible as there was no privacy for the royals at the time!

[@bonhamcarter4488]

@@sk8terx82 omg where'd you hear that from?

[@coronajewelry]

Louise really was the most beautiful and most interesting :D

[@omartilata4833]

Darko Cvetkovski I feel like the most beautiful daughter was Victoria but Louise is beautiful too

[@idontgiveafaboutyou]

H. L. Ballesteros she looked beautiful in some of her photos as a young woman

[@pennyproud2474]

I think Alice is pretty

[@odala8245]

All equally average looking bug-eyed women with very close resemblance to each other.

[@abiolafernandez8974]

I liked Alice too

[@lsmith9249]

Victoria was very controlling

[@JB-vd8bi]

Should she not have been?

[@TwoStepILY]

Like mother like daughter I suppose

[@TwoStepILY]

J B no you shouldn’t be controlling of your kids unless you want them to resent you

[@lsmith9249]

@@JB-vd8bi do you think controlling is normal

[@lsmith9249]

@@TwoStepILY her daughters weren't the same same

[@paulaburnett5587]

Thank you for the videos of Queen Victoria’s daughters They were all really raised by Prince Albert and given such a well rounded education. He wanted them to have a stable family life with both parents there. I know the younger ones didn’t get much of him like the older children did but he did a good job. What would Europe have been if he had lived longer. I’m sure Queen Victoria would not have leaned on her younger daughters as much. She would have had him to herself.

[@jclaudewong4647]

the thumbnail of your videos with portraits are so beautiful!

[@daya820]

Poor Beatrix, the mother the queen was a very self absorbed person that couldn’t give her space to breath and ruined her marriage

[@mkey7471]

im not kidding i was drinking water and i almost choked when she sent a warship just to bring that husband back damn

[@kaiserwilhelmii671]

It was illegal for widowers to marry their deceased spouse's sibling. *see Catherine of Aragon*

[@vanessasoto4046]

Kaiser Wilhelm II pfft

[@kaiserwilhelmii671]

@@vanessasoto4046 Wdum with pfft

[@JB-vd8bi]

@@kaiserwilhelmii671 yawn

[@kaiserwilhelmii671]

@@JB-vd8bi Get ur yawny ass outta here

[@Tylerhicks2]

The kaiser must come back, boooo to the Germany we have today glory to German empire.

[@jennaom1]

As a geneticist, I would love to see a video specifically about Hemophilia in the royal families of Europe in the 19th and early 20th centuries. Queen Victoria I appears to have been a de novo carrier of Hemophilia B (Factor IX Deficiency), meaning it was a new mutation in her, since there is no history of Hemophilia in the royal families prior. You've covered the affected individuals in multiple videos with different scopes, but it would be great to see a video that clearly lays out all Victoria's affected and carrier descendants. I'd be happy to help if needed!

[@aquariiaa]

😊😊😊

[@taejoongi1985]

Victoria sure was selfish

[@suzieanderton4239]

A selfish royal? Say it isn't so.

[@johnw2026]

So Princess Louise literally screwed a sculptor to death.... Geez, she was dangerous with her... erm.... sculpting.

[@jodiuhron1979]

Legendary!

[@sophroniel]

My great great grandfather Arthur Grey was very good friends with Prince Alfred and they travelled the world together in the navy. They were at school together and we've tracked several census records showing they were on board ship at the same time and Arthur's journal mentions it quite a bit!

[@bonniemoerdyk9809]

What an interesting bit of history in your family to pass down!

[@sk8terx82]

Alfred was a known drunkard and womenizer he had several bastards while he was traveling the world in the Royal Navy

[@bonhamcarter4488]

@@sk8terx82 your mum had as well?

[@canuckled]

Now I know how the Argyle and Sutherland Highlanders of Canada (Princess Louise's) got their name. There are four regiments named after her in Canada. Thanks for the videos.

[@ace6285]

My aunt was named after Louise since her father admired this Louise when she was in Canada. Subsequently other Louises were born into the family and the latest one just a few weeks ago in Vancouver. So this Louise left a small legacy in our family.

[@Maren617]

But you forgot Victoria's black adopted daughter - an African princess who ended up living in the US! We need another video featuring her life.

[@zzzbbbooo]

This person is not even mentioned in many books on Victoria.

[@user-bv8nc2xi6v]

Wow.. queen Victoria had some intelligent , humble, moral children.

[@galakkun6071]

9:05 Why are you smiling, Victoria?? Her husband just died......oh~ 😦

[@isabella8885]

Galactica Plays Video Games ikr she looked too happy 😅

[@maaiker2977]

Victoria comes across as a narcissist. Happy about the grieve of her daughter cause it meant she would stay with her and she got 100% of her attention.

[@houseofschenck6230]

I read this right as the video showed that photo.

[@chrisoverly3000]

What about the pic afterward. Is victoria dead in this pic

[@leahryan5560]

Maaike R: Not true. In her journal, Victoria wrote that she “went over to Beatrice’s room and sat a while with her. She is so piteous in her misery.” If she really was a narcissist, she wouldn’t have done that.

[@Libruhh]

um i just wanna say i’m a 20 year old male college student and your videos are MY SH*T! Like they make my day. Please keep up the amazing work!!

[@christopherbrown2706]

Why would your youth, sex, and/or occupation affect your enjoyment of historical KZbin videos?

[@juliettehilton438]

Christopher Brown he is saying something about himself. Not saying that it affects him enjoying the video. Your as dumb as the girls in this video.

[@habibaqazi4936]

@@juliettehilton438 some girls are not dumb as u think . I understood what he meant

[@juliettehilton438]

Habiba Qazi I dint say all girls were dumb. Now you sound dumb😂😂

[@tiffinwonderland7243]

Wow...Louise died at 91! Thats insane for that time period.

[@KL-ki8db]

Well looks like her diet and exercise really did cause her to live the longest out of her siblings.

[@Kudyandare]

​​@@KL-ki8db not really Arthur live the longest hes almost 92 died month later before his birthday

[@KL-ki8db]

@@Kudyandare No it is still Louise. They both were 91 when they died but Arthur lived 91 years and 8 months while Louise was 91 years and 9 months.

[@bovnycccoperalover3579]

Elizabeth II and Prince Phillip are third cousins. They are both directly related to Queen Victoria; Elizabeth through Edward VII and Phillip through Alice Grand Dutchess of Hesse.

[@GeorgiaGrown90]

literally ALL of the european royalty is related...Queen Victoria had 9 kids and 42 grandkids! WW1 was basically a family feud.

[@bt3376]

Second cousins *

[@gingeradams4764]

@smadge100 . I

[@melissasmall311]

Thanks!

[@janen1120]

If Princess Beatrice really supported Queen Victoria and John Brown's relationship. She shouldn't have edited the real status/deal/score about their relationship... leaving us wondering and guessing forever... with what if's...

[@lolao9799]

Wasn't she asked to?

[@obsessivefangirl5055]

i don't think it was anything sexual or physical. Victoria always claimed Albert was the love of her life, not to mention she was quite a prude in her later years.

[@christinemarrinan5781]

She had had 9 children I don't think sex would have been a priority

[@KL-ki8db]

I would guess that it wasn’t sexual and at most it was just romantic attraction and not sexual attraction. As in she needed a companion for love only and not for sex.

[@jojo-xk8ri]

as a person living in Alberta i was shocked to hear my irrelevant province mentioned in this lmao

[@sharonballantyne1735]

I live only hours away from Lake Louise!..."Yay Alberta"?? Lol

[@kll815]

Not sure why our province is “irrevelent”? Alberta is awesome!

[@bananamilk2605]

Aaaaaah obsessed with your content. I've waiting sooooo excitedly for Part 2 !! ♡♡

[@tennillec8635]

Victoria low key loved her daughters to death. She was not a great mother, but in the end you see how much she loved them.

[@CallieMasters5000]

Again, truth is stranger than fiction with this crew! Excellent video!

[@jramirez8637]

I love that Victoria's solution to discovering her daughters' affairs is to immediately marry them off to some distant royal

[@olgak4]

Omg i was waiting for this one

[@pamelaq6185]

Me too!

[@zekec6088]

Tragic that most of Queen Vic's journals were permanently destroyed... I'd like to know what was going on in that warped mind

[@bookittyblog]

If you only knew how quick I clicked on this video hahaha I love Queen Victoria and your videos are excellent!

[@yessialexa3767]

bookittyblog she was a great Queen but a terrible mother

[@riri_hins]

bookittyblog same here!

[@alp7928]

Me too!

[@mom2chris1mike2]

So glad I found this channel. Great info and narration

[@donna6368]

I'm loving this series. Please keep up the amazing work.❤

[@janethartwig774]

I have read that Louise possibly contracted a STD from her brother’s tutor rendering her infertile. This seems to make sense as she did not shy away from having sex or taking lovers. She was very beautiful.

[@sk8terx82]

Janet Hartwig it’s likely she had birth a child already that had either died during birth or was giving away. Documents from the period show that during 1865-66, her wears abouts are a mystery, about the same time a pregnancy would occur. She also had an affair with Henry Battenburg, her sister Beatrice husband

[@yn209]

theres no correlation whatsoever between having many lover and being beautiful

[@janethartwig774]

y/n. Mention of her beauty was simply an observation.

[@staceynicole8978]

oh I have been looking forward to this!!! thank you for creating it!!

[@staceynicole8978]

@James Hama I am fine over here across the great pond. Missing England, Ireland, and Scotland like crazy though. Hope you are well also!

[@yeppeogeu2828]

Louise really said "i'm a bad bitch you cant kill me"

[@picklesthewise]

The irony of Victoria praising Louise's marriage for "bringing new blood" when she MARRIED HER OWN FIRST COUSIN I MEAN WHAT...😳😳

[@MsFlamingFlamer]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@jessvillasor3653]

Thank you for the amazing videos as always! Pls do make a video about the life of Anne Lister.

[@CindersVale]

Well done and informative video. Keep them coming, please.

[@melissasmall311]

Thank you so much for the history. You pare down the importance of each daughter . You are succinct and your delivery is impeccable. It spurs me to say, on to your next KZbin video

[@HattieMcDanielonaMoon]

I can't get enough of your channel!

[@ranikster9955]

I wish I had met her daughters Louise and Alice. Such interesting stories

[@MFO6]

Really enjoying this series!

[@virginiasoskin9082]

Well.. let's face it: Victoria was an EXTREMELY self-centered woman and being Queen of England upped that self-centeredness into the stratosphere. Her childhood with all attention on her, not even allowed to walk down stairs without someone holding her hand, with few friends her own age, under the control of her mother and tutor, made her into a dependent person who always felt the need to have ppl around to SERVE her. Anyone not totally devoted to her she had no time for. When she became queen she banished her mother and the "tutor" responsible for her system of education, and came into her own. Soon thereafter though, she married Albert and their relationship was often stormy and not all sunshine and roses; she was domineering, he needed a reason for living and it took him awhile to settle in; with her many pregnancies, he ended up taking over much of her work and this was very stressful; he was overworked, and not with the greatest physical constitution, and possibly some underlying health problems, he died. There were VERY few times when she showed sympathy for others. After Albert died, she treated him like a martyr. The focus of mourning HAD to be on her and HER loss, to heck with what her children might have been going through in the loss of their father. She expected everyone to respect how grieved she was, she expected them to reflect this continuing grief back to her, and this went on for YEARS and was so unhealthy. I wonder what modern medicine might have done for her depression. I have read a lot about her and I don't think I would have liked her as a person, though it is said she could joke and laugh. I think it would have been an awful strain to work for her in her court.

[@elenaguinea5340]

Absolutely fantastic video,you have a real talent for explaining history

[@SirParcifal]

I'm pregnant with my first - I could not imagine having 9 kids - I don't think I'm going to do this more than two times - hehe God bless her

[@donna6368]

I'm wishing you all the best with your pregnancy.

[@sharonballantyne1735]

I guess your not a Duggar Then!! Imagine having 19 kids!

[@SirParcifal]

@@donna6368 thank you

[@SirParcifal]

@@sharonballantyne1735 noooo. Way. That woman needs a hobby

[@christopherarmstrong-steve1122]

In Victoria's day, there was no means of preventing conception, except premature withdrawal or outright abstention from sexual intercourse. Condoms hadn't been invented yet.

[@Mean_Jean]

Queen Victoria *Doesn't believe women should vote or have professions* IS the queen of england

[@artsyhyd]

😂😂😂

[@zzzbbbooo]

She lived from 1819-1901 - people didn't think the same way about things then as they do now!

[@shawnsmileywright6201]

I was shocked her daughter eliminated/edited most of Queen Victoria's journals. Queen Victoria was an avid writer. She wrote everything in detail, so I questioned what was taken out?

[@emilybarclay8831]

Victoria very much enjoyed sex with her husband in a time where women were supposed to be sexless and pure. She likely omitted anything that would make the queen look immoral or that conflicted with the Victorian ideal of the pious, chaste and pure wife

[@Flamsterette]

Thank you for the interesting upload!

[@CelisseWillis]

This was a very well put together documentary! I knew Victoria had a reputation of being dismissive to certain children, yet this documentary seems to make her out to be very narcissistic as well. Very self absorbed, as if certain children were her sacrificial lambs. I'm sure things would've been very different, had Albert not passed so young. He seemed to be a very grounding, nurturing presence, which speaks to Victoria spending her entire life depressed after he passed, & expecting her children to cater to her whims & blocking their joy in many ways. Like she wasn't happy in her own life, she didn't seem to want their happiness much either, or at least resented them being happy or in love. How sad. I have been a live caretaker for individuals with mental health & the last woman was 70 & had deep depression issues. It's unfortunate in situations like this where the matriarch has mental instabilities, the entire family is still subject to her decision making processes & being held captive by them. I've seen it multiple times. It's why the children & grandchildren end up becoming cold, dismissive or distant themselves, in an attempt to have control of their own emotions in a situation where they don't really have a say so with a mentally & emotionally unstable family member of importance.

[@KL-ki8db]

I would say that her horrible relationship with her own mother has also resulted in her coldness in parenting as well.

[@curlyanneb1973]

Doesn’t seem like any of the girls, including the queen, were very good looking.... they sort of were in all the paintings, but not in the photos....but, as a commissioned artist..what else could you do but an upgrade I guess...

[@sharonarana3835]

Our definition of beauty is much different from the definition of that time

[@tessiegesch8677]

I think that the old black and white photos kinda blur people’s faces and without color people can look quite ill. The paintings were just kinda their ideal selves, their best features strengthened.

[@Darling-yuma]

Umm the camera back then were not the best quality that made it seem like they were not good looking but they were

[@sakshiiii1270]

Say what you may but Louise was quite pretty

[@DAiken-jz1iu]

I enjoyed this very much. Muchly appreciated.

[@a.jlondon9039]

Thanks for the history lesson, especially Princess Louise. I am Canadian.

[@Lucy0809]

I am soooo excited about this thanks for sharing xxx

[@triplehearts914]

5:34 What a pretty portrait! She looks like Alice from Alice in wonderland here.

[@suzannesmith2204]

Thank you so very much for making these interesting and wonderful Videos, l'm learning so much like l've never knowed or knew before this.

[@suzannesmith2204]

@James Hama l'm doing well thank you and l wish the same for you too to be well and in good Health my Friend

[@suzannesmith2204]

@James Hama thank you l didn't have Coffee because l took a nap while watching NFL Football Carolina Panthers vs. Dallas Cowboys, the Dallas Cowboys won however the Carolina Panthers put up quite a challenge for the Dallas Cowboys

[@suzannesmith2204]

@James Hama l like reading, listening to Music, and watch Movies, my favorite kind of genre is Horror me my Sister-in-law are going to see the new Halloween Movie that's coming out on the 15th of October.

[@suzannesmith2204]

Do you have Facebook?

[@suzannesmith2204]

@James Hama l'm not watching a Movie right now and I can't remember what Movie I watched Yesterday l'm sorry my Friend, l woke-up this Morning not feeling well so l'm a little foggy in the Brain

[@sharonballantyne1735]

"Outraged Prominent Canadians...having to Dance beside "Common" people...😂😂😂😆🤣🤣

[@MrPacproductions]

Damn, imagine your mother in law was so annoying, that going to war was a better alternative than spending time with her

[@rogersheddy6414]

" as per her mother's request she edited and transcribed Queen Victoria's journals... she edited out so much that they were reduced by 2/3 and she destroyed the originals..." I read a biography of Queen Victoria that was based on those edited journals, and I'll tell you, if the stuff that was taken out was anything like some of what was left in... Yah ta ta ta ta!!!!

[@Sarah-hc3wn]

I really enjoy your videos! Very well done! Keep it up...new fan right here!

[@hankwilliams150]

An extremely well done video. Thanks!

[@LadyAmberA]

Queen Victoria did not seem like a very nice person!

[@JB-vd8bi]

So how should she have been?

[@ravenzyblack]

Amber Powell- Most people in power are not nice people that’s why they are in power. If we knew the truth about the lives of those who rile over us we wouldn’t think very highly of them...any of them. Then again, I think if we knew the truth about anybody the truth honest truth about them we probably wouldn’t like them, that includes ourselves. After all, we are our own worst enemy. It is a part of human nature, we are ALL flawed.

[@sharonballantyne1735]

That was the times!

[@michaela9967]

I think she was just that woman raised in that time. Women who didn't breastfeed and had difficult births ? They surely had that "hate" of babies. Women still have it now. Imagine back then ... maybe that's why she's such a bad mother. Sissy was the same. They took her children right away and she was sick because she had milk in boobs.

[@vampyress83]

funny thing is.. if she ad knew about the inbreeding among her fam.. why the hell did she still let her daughters be married to close blood relatives.. i know that most royals are related to each other but she could hv picked someone else who is not that close in terms of blood relations..

[@stefaniemonger4610]

vampyress83 Most of the marriages were political moves, so Britain would not come under attack.

[@vampyress83]

@@stefaniemonger4610 but only to the german countries?? since her daughter mostly married to basically germans.. but den again.. victoria is a german as well in terms of ethnics.. after all.. she is from the house of hanover.. only when queen elizabeth ii's father came on the throne that they change their house name to windsor but they r still mostly of german descent..

[@elamplough1]

The pros kind of outweighed the cons. Royals marrying relatives was simply considered a good way of strengthening political alliances.

[@simsim4050]

New subscriber ❤️ thank you for your educational information! So interesting! I’m hooked 😁

[@lydia_kyrie]

Not gonna talk about how it is highly suspected Louise had a baby with her younger brother’s tutor? Ok

[@sharonalexa]

What a wonderful two part series. Ty!

[@vS-gk2wg]

3:55 this is the story Mary from Downton is based on in the first season.

[@VasilikiTzalachanihappy]

I can't wait to learn more about this family! 😍 Keep up the great work!

[@arlequinacontostavlos2100]

By the paintings I would say Helena was the prettiest, but looking at pictures, it seems Louise was indeed the prettiest. Amazing how she really did outlive all people... 😅 It's so bizarre how Queen Victoria got bitter after the death of her husband... it must've been really difficult to be around her...

[@MrsGiovanellaAline]

Loooooooving this series! Amazing work!

[@wolrdtraveller]

Love your videos! I don’t know if you have one already, but I would love to see a video on Maharaja Ranjeet Singh of the Sikh empire. And also his son Duleep Singh, who was stolen from his lands by Queen Victoria and brought to England as prisoner. In addition, the very influential suffragette Sofia Duleep Singh Who defied Queen Victoria to champion women’s right to vote in England.

[@cassyclim8]

Thanks! Been looking forward to this.

[@singtoangels]

I could swear that Beatrice's dress also contained fabric from Katherine of Aragon from the Royal Wardrobe. Do you know for sure?

[@TracyJean1972]

Yes. The lace piece that was draped over the front of the skirt of her wedding dress had belonged to Katherine of Aragon.

[@annevanderwoude9319]

I really enjoyed this !thank you