Questions, Coffee & Cars #81 // How will the new Toyota 4Runner drive?

This is a Motormouth couple car video answering your questions from Instagram, like: Difference between moonroof and Sunroof? What is the ride height of the Toyota Crown Signia? What do you think of the Honda EV announcement? Will 4Runner drive the same as Tacoma? Do people interrupt you while shooting? Kia Niro hybrid or Sportage hybrid? Should I lease an EV? Hyundai hybrid or Toyota hybrid? Will new 4Runner have the same high resale?
Andrea Instagram / motormouth_andrea
Zack Instagram / motormouth_auto
0:00 Intro
1:56 What is the ride height of the Toyota Crown Signia?
3:03 Difference between moonroof and Sunroof?
4:32 What do you think of the Honda EV announcement?
7:39 Will 4Runner drive the same as Tacoma?
8:53 Will new 4Runner have the same high resale?
10:20 Do people interrupt you while shooting?
12:26 Kia Niro hybrid or Sportage hybrid?
13:25 Should I lease an EV?
16:48 Hyundai hybrid or Toyota hybrid?

[@jeffc9811]

You guys should release these as a podcast as well! It would be hands down the best auto podcast out there.

[@richardhale2117]

A little history...when first introduced, some cars had a solid roof panel that would open and retract and that was called a "sunroof." In 1973, Lincoln Continental introduced a tinted glass panel that opened and retracted and marketed it as a "moonroof". I would say the terms are interchangeable today.

[@judih.8754]

Yes that's it!

[@davidthompson4489]

My understanding is that a sunroof is a glass panel in the roof that may or may not open, but allows light in. A moonroof is a metal panel that opens to allow sunlight into the cabin but eclipses the sun when closed.

[@Fivemonthslater1]

Other way around, but close!

[@cristytoma]

Hi Andreea and Zach! Great to see the two of you. I do follow a lot of car youtubers, but you two are my favourite. Also great to see that you managed to get your hands on the MX-5. I wouldn't mind taking it of your hands for a couple days while the two of you are away on a trip. I used to have a NC MX-5 for about 4 years and my older daughter misses it a lot. Keep doing what you're doing 🙂

[@andreaspencer9813]

lol! It is a pretty great car, I can understand why your daughter misses it. Thanks for the kinds words too.

[@jonclassical2024]

I got my now Ex-Wife a 2002 Mazda RX-8 in the spring of that year when we lived in downtown Charleston, SC...it was one of the most fun cars "we" ever owned! Enjoy your new Mazda Sportscar!

[@trippinwithdumas1382]

As always great content. I've always gone by.. sunroof tilts but doesn't slide. And the moonroof slides and tilts.

[@richh7608]

Enjoy the show but just to clarify....... All Hyundai / Kia hybrid vehicles with the 1.6l turbo have a 6 speed conventional automatic transmission. Only the Kia Niro and Hyundai Elantra hybrids use a DCT.

[@stevedemoss]

Hey, Zack and Andrea! QC&C is one of my must-watch KZbin videos twice a week. Now that you have the MX-5, I’ll be looking forward to periodic updates. My wife has been wanting an MX-5 forever, and I’ll be curious to see how you like the car on a day-to-day basis. Love your channel and enjoy your reviews (and seeing which wristwatch Zack is wearing in each video!). Take care and stay safe.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you very much, we appreciate the support. I have been driving it everyday and I am having a blast. But, it's not the most comfortable for the passenger as it is for the driver. I went grocery shopping and I had a pretty big load, I filled the trunk and put some bags in the passenger seat too. It worked great for me that day.

[@JimAllder11]

10:33 That is a question that has been in the back of my head for the entire year I've been watching you guys. 🤣

[@myt-bird8100]

My future garage will have a Maverick and a Miata in it. They'll be colour matched of course.

[@robbilton9006]

Re moonroof vs sun roof. If you go back to the olden days. Sun roofs were small and most were just tilt. All were glass. The first moonroof I remember was the 83 Toyota space cruiser. (Hiace minivan) That had a tilt sunroof at the front and a huge slide moonroof at the back. If you roadtrip inland come have a coffee stop in Abbotsford.

[@abelkwh]

I was hoping to bump into you guys when I went to Vancouver sometime this year but too bad, I didn’t and I was disappointed when I got back Calgary! Hope I can bump into you guys next time when I go to Vancouver.

[@user-fq4ix3nt5o]

Hey guys. Great job getting a Miata from Mazda. I look forward to your summer tours. Regarding the sunroof/moonroof question, a moonroof is made of tinted glass and a sunroof is metal. Once upon a time (yes, I'm that old), I owned a 1978 Ford Fiesta that had both. They were removable and we could switch them out depending on the season. Take care.

[@Scoharr]

Loved the Ford Fiesta! I nearly bought a white '78 Fiesta - couldn't get a loan, but I dated a gal who had one - pretty much a Rabbit in Ford of Europe trim. Haven't seen one in years.

[@billurban1581]

17:10 Questioner asks "which hybrid is better for cold weather?" Zack, with an ICE on board I don't see cold weather issues for hybrids. Am I missing something? Perhaps the questioner confused a hybrid with an EV? All your videos are very well done, keep up the good work.

[@al7737]

Moonroofs vs sunroofs, I recall a difference being one opened up over the exterior of the roof and the other would slide into the roof inside between the liner and the sheet metal.

[@janetryder172]

I will be asking about the Trailblazer by Chevy !!

[@octaviodominguez7772]

By far my favorite office Mazda miata looks so sharp on the inside ❤😂

[@andreaspencer9813]

It's a beauty!

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Take the Ferry circle loop and travel the Sunshine Coast and head over to the Island, always a great trip!

[@andreaspencer9813]

We were thinking that too!

[@timphillips4147]

Nice outdoor edition in this sporty number 🎉❤

[@labradachig1976]

Funny enough, Alex on Autos posted the Crown Signia review on KZbin but I can't find it anymore. Must've gotten the stick from Toyota and took it down. Anyway, I thought they priced it way higher than the Venza ($44k in the US). Good product though.

[@rickyjassal4488]

Andrea is one of those rare North American youtubers that uses Samsung rather than iPhone. Very cool and interesting

[@onlysublime]

There are lots. Mkbhd's main phone is samsung (but he has multiple phones).

[@robertt9342]

Not sure what the big deal? If you like android, you like android, if you like iPhone, you like iPhone.

[@rickyjassal4488]

@@robertt9342 I didn't say it was a negative. I just pointed out an observation. Why are you getting so defensive brother?

[@johnespanol1273]

I had an MX-5, and they are fantastic cars! A lot of fun!

[@dannyphamous]

Welcome to the club! (For the summer at least) may every little drive and shift be fun and amazing!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you very much!

[@dennisstafford7801]

Nice show as usual

[@nicholasbabeaux2052]

It’s so funny. I have not run into you before but I think I saw you two driving down here in San Diego😂👌 I realized it after your review came out and it must have been you. I live in the Del Mar, Solana Beach, Leucadia area and it was a Toyota or Lexus.

[@judih.8754]

In the "old days" a sunroof was a panel that was painted and the moonroof was glass. Both could open of course.

[@vancity2349]

Thats a great roadster for the price. Clever use for a glovebox and cup holders, my Boxster doesn't have those...

[@joes3689]

My understanding of the difference between a sunroof and moonroof is as follows. The Sunroof is a panel that forms a cohesive appearance with the rest of the roof. You can't see through a sunroof. It can slide into the roof or can be completely removed. Moonroofs are made of tinted glass and are transparent. Modern cars mostly have moonroofs or panoramic moonroofs. The first Sunroof was a 1937 Nash, and the first Moonroof was a 1973 Lincoln Continental Mark IV.

[@judih.8754]

I agree!

[@springertube]

Going back at least a couple decades, I think manufacturers, people started calling it a moonroof when they went glass, opening or not. That's not a hard and fast rule; as been suggested they really are used rather interchangeably. But I think that's where the new(er) moonroof term came from.

[@autobreza7131]

Correct. The opening roof sections were all called sunroofs until Lincoln (and others) started using tinted glass opening panels around 1972. The terms are now pretty much used interchangeably given the timeline.

[@frh-freerangehuman]

As I said before you guys deserve this! I have always loved Mazdas (not a fan of convertibles or even a sun roof) but these things are hot. I had a 94 protege 5 speed that I loved and my 3 rd (and final😅) wife had an Mx6 when I met her also manual. That thing was fun too (the car😂) Way to go and enjoy that roadster!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you very much, we are having a lot of fun.

[@franklananna9684]

Sun roof years ago was a solid panel (no glass) moon roof has a glass panel

[@techpappee]

16:50 Hyundai/Kia use a 6spd traditional transmission in the 1.6T hybrid Tucson/Sportage. Not a DCT. A DCT isn’t available in regular or hybrid models of HMGs compact SUV. 8 or 6 spd traditional transmissions are on offer.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Our mistake, thanks for clarifying. An 8 speed automatic is in the gas model and 6-speed automatic in the hybrid and PHEV. We have the Sorento gas model this week with the 8-speed wet DCT.

[@davidalenick1246]

Actually I believe to be technical, a sunroof is what some older 80’s cars had where it was a metal panel that opened. Once they became glass they were technically moonroofs because you could see the moon through them at night. However, today both terms are used interchangeably.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Yes, that's true but today they are the exact same thing as you mentioned.

[@stephenwinter8892]

I have a very old mazda miatia convertible with British racing green and beige leather upholstery greetings from oakville Ontario thanks for the presentation

[@andreaspencer9813]

What a great combo!

[@josephpanozzo4815]

I wish Mazda would let me do a long term test drive like you two are doing!

[@CoolTatts]

Moon roof is a metal panel which opens. A sunroof allows sun in even when closed. My 1986 VW Jetta had a winding crank moonroof. It was a solid roof when it was closed.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Today a moonroof and sunroof are the same thing. If you see a vehicle's specs and the feature is listed as a moonroof or sunroof, they are the same.

[@CoolTatts]

@@andreaspencer9813 interesting, I’ve never seen “moonroof” on a car which had a glass panel. Which manufacturers continue to use this term? I wonder if those who do use the term “moonroof” have sunroofs which automatically retract the shade when opening. That would make the sunroof appear to operate like past moonroof designs. I remember my old Toyota XA30 would retract the shade however my Mini R56 doesn’t. Interesting… Yes, us uber car geeks also really enjoy watching your channel :)

[@regwilson7652]

Drive summer car and enjoy

[@paininthepatoot]

Streamer in the UK boought an Porshe EV for something like 100K pounds. Two years later he decides to upgrade due to improvements in range and charging. Porshe dealer not interested in taking it as a trade in on the new car. Best price he could get was around 55K pounds. That didn't even cover the fiancing left of his original car. Poor example but it shows how resale values can drop due to changes in tech. Leason learned? Leasing an EV is the way to go until there is more stability in the market.

[@lawrencemerrick3063]

Summer just got fun ❤🎉

[@martifilipponi1024]

Okay here's the deal.. moonroofs and sunroofs came out 40 years ago.. the sunroof was a same color metal roof that retracted The moon roof came out a little later and did the same but was glass. Panoramic came out later because it covered mostly the front and rear seats in glass

[@Jorge_Magallon]

Nice ride! Hope your head unit isn’t as buggy as mine. Also, how terrible is reverse camera? Lucky when it’s top down rear visibility is a non-issue. Enjoy!

[@Motormouth...]

All-new head unit and wiring for the entire car for 2024

[@Jorge_Magallon]

@@Motormouth... oh that’s right. Apparently, only possible with the wiring harness change. Good for you.

[@hardyk2010]

I see a Miata in the thumbnail, I click

[@jimreilly9179]

For the summer? So for two month or so?

[@lugingeruk1839]

Perfect colour! Mazda definitely does the best red, I knew you guys wouldn't disappoint. Looking forward to seeing a bit of Vancouver and the MX5. I've always loved this car, it looks so fun to drive. I bet you'll want to keep it 😁

[@PH-md8xp]

Ferrari Red, nothing comes close.

[@RiasatAbir]

Love the red leather jacket Andrea!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Thank you so much!

[@toddwerther188]

What MPG would the RDX turbo get in the Ridgeline, assuming 10spd?

[@venisemoroski776]

Great

[@shanesnyder7359]

Love this! The Miata looks fantastic!

[@jsfbay1]

June 6 embargo? Why are they making you wait so long? Are they going to be delivering Signias to the dealerships by June?

[@antoniolepore8155]

The take rate for the old Subaru Forester Turbo was not high. Why it did not sell, the old Turbo used Premium fuel. Put the 2.4 liter turbo from the Outback in it (using regular fuel) and it will sell. Do you think Subaru will ever put the Outback Turbo in the Forester? They will have a Hybrid next year, perhaps the Turbo put in the Forester Wilderness would be a good fit?

[@ltkwok]

You are in an MX5… the BBS Brembo one.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Yes, the GS-P with the sport package

[@remitremblay2091]

I am really happy Honda is investing…if Canada won’t do it, some other country will….and then, we will have to import cars/etc…that can be expensive! Maybe even more….that remains to be seen. But, I am a Honda person! Go Honda!

[@abc1099a]

Do you think the RF is probably the best choice if you live in Vancouver and plan to drive it all year round? The price tag kinda makes me question the purchase

[@anthonyvink7153]

Best resale as well

[@andreaspencer9813]

We prefer the look of the soft top which is why we chose this one.

[@louism8217]

A car company may only boost 1000 jobs, but the support jobs associated with the Honda plant will also increase. And then jobs to support those jobs, and on and on.

[@anthonyvink7153]

I think it’s crazy that I would rather have another 2000 Honda S2000 than I would a new Miata. But they do sell. Just not convinced of the value of a Warranty on a 3rd vehicle for summer.

[@Vanilla_Donut]

To clarify, Honda is investing $15 billion of its own money. Canada is putting in $2.5 bil via tax credit and Ontario is putting in the same. Total is $5 bil from governments. 1,000 more jobs at the upgraded Alliston plant but it was not disclose the amount of jobs for the other 2 plants Honda is building in Ontario. This deal does not mimic the IRA.

[@andreaspencer9813]

Yes, that's correct, Honda is investing 15 billion which is the largest investment by any auto manufacturer in Canada. I think we got sidetracked and we confused some.

[@kellingtonlink956]

Thanks for another great episode.

[@myt-bird8100]

My 1974 Continental Mk IV had a metal roof opening so it was called a "Sun Roof". If it was made of glass, it was called a "Moon Roof".

[@berthogendoorn2133]

Good on you, it looks spring like with the roof down!

[@reserva120]

As a PNW “ go Tacoma “ but according to my female vegetarian sensitivity training class - they’re no Longer called Ferry’s - But Alternative Boats !!!:):) .. Go Mainers

[@axx8326]

Kudos to Honda bringing more jobs in Canada especially in these times 🇨🇦 .But seeing the state of the EV market nowadays.... and with all the incentives taken off(federally and provincially ) I personally doubt this will give any kind of boost to the EVs in general. Ppl are short in $$ and unless the EVs manage somehow, magically, to overcome their shortcomings, develop the technology further and also become more affordable they will probably be still something most people won't consider anytime soon.

[@lukerinderknecht2982]

In the short term perhaps but these are very long term projects that will help equip us in the grand scheme of things.

[@DevilsRejection]

Y'all Canadians say "Mazda" weird. Hello from Texas. Love the vids.

[@kartofle123]

Saying Mazda weird is better than voting for Trump for president😂

[@robertt9342]

People in Texas say everything weird.

[@jayshahu]

The Honda investment is still better than the VW/Stellantis deal since this is one in which they are giving out tax credits instead of a handout that VW and Stellantis.

[@robertt9342]

Well they are getting both money and credits.

[@10OF9OFBORG]

Andrea, you looks happy sit in the MX-5. 👍🏻 Maybe you should call it “question, Coffee, car and open air”. 😉😆👍🏻 Great show Andrea!☕️☕️

[@andreaspencer9813]

Super happy! Glad you enjoyed it.

[@10OF9OFBORG]

@@andreaspencer9813 👍🏻👍🏻

[@Learningwithmarcus]

Personally I think we need to talk more about resale value and how hard it is to keep up with depreciation. My problem is that I drive high miles so leasing is totally not in the picture. That leaves me with buying a car and then getting hit with bad depreciation. And on the other hand buying a car a year or two older CPO means that people won’t want it as much because it will have had two owners so I’m screwed either way

[@slighwentwalking2024]

I would imagine it will take decades to recover initial investment. of the size it will take to get off the ground. The upside is all of the other supporting industries that will be involved with a large manufacturer. Sadly the converse is also true. When they close they create ghost towns... Detroit is one of those towns...as far as the automotive industry. Hey lets revisit this comment in 30 years 😂 Love the channel and still want to see the GTI

[@johnmattiazzo3900]

You can build all the battery ev’s in Canada you want public doesn’t want them . Hydro grid can’t handle all the capacity that will be needed for charging

[@brenthenley5265]

I can’t believe that Zac got to sit in the drivers seat.

[@lawrencemerrick3063]

If we can't do any mining in western Canada how is it going to happen back east?

[@Bobthephotographer2]

Northern Ontario has been a major mining center for over 50 years.

[@GlennLaycock]

Convertible - I drove one year round for over 7 years - kind of got used to shaking my fist at rain clouds and birds that - well they were clearly plotting against me.

[@DVinCanada]

My long range model 3 was only 57k CAD out door. Don’t think there’s more room to slash price so resale value is secured. And ya, leasing is a trap. I never lease. You keep buying and paying monthly payments because of it. It you worried about monthly payment being to high and wanted to lease to reduce the payment, you probably not in the wealth position to buy that car. Keep the old car for longer or buy a cheaper one.

[@gs98999]

Most wealthy people lease to reduce their monthly cash layout on a depreciating asset such that they can deploy those savings into the market to make them more money. Of course vast majority of people are not in this position and may use a lease as you described...

[@mitch4149]

Do you guys expense the Starbucks? 😂

[@mailman7478]

Topless not what I was hoping for

[@marcprobin1659]

here is what I found: A sunroof is a glass or metal panel that's installed in the roof of a car, truck, or SUV that slides open or pops up to allow light and air into the interior cabin. A moonroof is typically a clear or tinted glass panel that slides between the roof and the headliner and is often tilted open to let in the fresh air.

[@vulpixelful]

EV or not, I think I'm the only one in the world who doesn't care about resale value for my car. I'd rather not have a payment then keep leases (nowadays the only way to get $$ off EV MSRP is through lease incentives). I save a bit towards my next car purchase each month after I get a new car. Over a number of years, the savings method works as long as I start saving even a bit immediately. And I'll own the car eventually.

[@rinbine2713]

Hyundai hybrid used 6 speed automatic. Not a DCT. Niro hybrid used 7 speed DCT.

[@artistnyc123]

That's one of the most beautiful neighborhoods on earth. Having Andrea there only makes it more so.

[@kartofle123]

What Zack didn't tell us is the reason that neighbourhood is so quiet . Most of the homes are owned by people from mainland China who bought the homes as investments and a place to hide their money from Bejing. Many of the homes are not occupied or only lived in part of the year and that is why Vancouver has the most expensive real estate in North America.

[@superalain1961]

Very happy that despite all your success (well deserved btw) that it has not gone to your head… stay grounded that’s why we appreciate you guys even more 👍🏻

[@welcometfreddysplace]

If I see you out I will tell you to tell Zack I have a Maverick in my garage 😂🤣

[@remiguertin6474]

Sunroof in daytime, moonroof at night? Love your show! Five billions for 1,000 jobs, that is five millions per job! Somebody should be fired!

[@jinx_13168]

I know many are excited about the crown and 4 runner but Im over here waiting to hear when 2025 corolla will be announced 😂

[@realdeal8607]

Leasing is good in the US, very bad in Canada

[@omarturkostani680]

My dodge durango 2016 just broke down and I started hating it. I left it at the office and went home with my friend. Now I am thinking of just getting rid of it It is cranking up but not starting I believe it might be fuel pump and it also has ticking sound which could be enginer lifters sound which is a common issue with dodge. What should I get ? Chevy traverse is still not available in my country and I do not like 4 cylinders Grand highlander is not available also and the normal highlander sucks Ford explorer seems outdated VW teramout is not bad (but also 4 cylinders) and no dealership is in my city which would be hard to maintain CX90? hmmm Honda Pilot I bought one in 2016 which I kept for 1 month then sold it, I did not like it Kia telluride looks nice but I don't think kia is reliable and I usually keep my car for over 10 years Should I just finance a new car or just fix the damn Durango :(

[@supriyasou3722]

For the first question, Alex on auto leaked everything 😂😂 6.9 inches

[@andreaspencer9813]

He must of thought the embargo was 05/06 not 06/06. I am sure Toyota is not happy.

[@supriyasou3722]

@@andreaspencer9813 lolol yeah they removed the video later but many of us had already watched the full video by then. If you don't see him anymore in the Toyota events, you know why 😶‍🌫😶‍🌫

[@timothyburnside3229]

Drive the Fiat 124 and see how it compares to the Mazda! If you drive the Abarth you get more power and sport!!! Just saying you might like it a lot.

[@jtoth1234summer]

So it's nice doing your ?s in a quiet rich mausoleum neighborhood. 😂

[@vaskenkafafian8171]

You are wrong about sunroof, it's what you call moonroof, sunroof, you open on sunny days for ventilation, moonroof started in Japan, I believe Nissan was the first, it was several paneled roof, to see the moonlight and stars.

[@andreaspencer9813]

That may be so but if you see the specs of vehicles today and it's listed as a moonroof or sunroof, they are the same thing.

[@1Springloaded]

👍🏼 A sun roof is a removable piece of glass or metal than is kept in the trunk or garage. All but gone. A moon roof is what we are a custom to today. A retractable portion of the roof. Really enjoy the show!

[@toddwerther188]

IMO we should be glad our governments are strategic enough to understand the importance of creating national supply chains. So yes, thank you for the inflation reduction act.

[@stuntmonkey00]

Running into Zack in Vancouver: Meh, I've seen this guy loads of times over the years on TV. Running into Andrea: Oh wow, it's Andrea! 😁

[@hereigoagain5050]

Andrea looks like she grew out of the Miata.

[@Phong7080]

A factory with 1000 workers doesn't mean it only benefits that 1000 people. Usually a lot of works in that factory will flow to smaller factories as sub-contract works. And people benefit directly or indirectly from these factories in turn will help other businesses to grow by circulating their salaries. That's why the governments are willing to spend billions of dollars to bring these high-paid jobs to their own countries.

[@rezamoradi4073]

Sun gazing is safe, there is a proper way when done right, I have been staring at sun since 2016 with no issues any time of the day :)

[@vontravel]

Watch you every week and feel like I am back in White Rock, BC. I don’t have Instagram. Too stupid to learn it. Please include this question: I have a Mercedes C200 CDi. Average 6.5 l/100 kms. This is already 38 mpg. Why don’t they used diesel engines in hybrids? Keep up the stunning work. Michael (Cape Town).

[@jeffreyerickson6766]

Mozzda

[@Dreamer10888]

Omg $50m for a house and seemingly no water views.. sydney still a bargain

[@kartofle123]

$15 not $50

[@Dreamer10888]

@@kartofle123 ahhhh

[@IanFong-mt4yp]

Moonroof incorrect, sunroof incorrect Many years ago , my 5 year old niece asked to open the 'Skyroof' , probably the most correct description Every time you use it, you see the sky - 24/7

[@realdeal8607]

Sunroof was supposed to be a solid piece (not see-through) like the old Mercedes Benz. Moon roof is a glass sunroof.

[@vicp8772]

That Miata better be stick. Andrea let her rip!

[@andreaspencer9813]

Of course! :)

[@hagbard72]

I can't even buy an MX-5 around here, well, unless I want to deal with the worlds scummiest car dealer chain. They're charging $47k+ for a GS! Nothing unusual for these guys. Other dealers within 200kms hardly ever get them in, and when they do, they're automatics, RFs, ugly colours (gray, poop brown). I've pretty much given up, getting too old anyway to be trying to hunt one of these down.