QUIET LUXURY CONTENT IS TURNING INTO CLASSISM

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Kate Swan

Kate Swan

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@myluv4lux904
@myluv4lux904 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. These Content creator’s spent years talking about how fabulous LV monogram or Gucci Monogram, etc being the best thing since sliced bread. They build up these luxury brands and logo mania and once a lot of their followers start obtaining the actual things that they felt were the cream of crop. Now all of a sudden it’s cheap or outdated, etc. and I definitely feel a lot of it has to do with women of color (AKA BLACK) now obtaining a lot of these things that was once upon a time supposed to be out of our reach. Great video
@Ashisnotashamed
@Ashisnotashamed Жыл бұрын
That is exactly what I was thinking. Now that black women are becoming more feminine, buying luxury and taking care of themselves it’s a problem. Smh
@onegreenvoice
@onegreenvoice Жыл бұрын
I honestly don't understand why people, I presume you mean white people, would stop buying things or say they're no longer desirable if black people are carrying/wearing them. That would be a ridiculous attitude.
@myluv4lux904
@myluv4lux904 Жыл бұрын
@@melc4308 okay I can see that and agree! You’re right
@Saiuriyon
@Saiuriyon Жыл бұрын
I think it’s more so the TYPE of black woman though. There’s a reason that Hermes looks elegant on black women like Lori Harvey and Savannah James, but trashy on Cardi B and Ari Fletcher for example. Money does not automatically equal classiness and elegance. These brands don’t want to be affiliated with ghetto, hood-fabulous ratchetry PERIOD regardless of race. Unfortunately, many of these celebs and influencers have run designer brands and logos into the ground to the point that it’s tacky. Logo mania has always been tacky though, imo 🤷🏽‍♀️
@tiredmeekala
@tiredmeekala Жыл бұрын
​@Breeyon my thing is, I've never been one for logos. I hated the monogram trend and logos and brightly decorated bags are just not my thing. Imagine my surprise at seeing "quiet luxury" "quiet wealth" "old money aesthetics" getting around for the type bags of bags I carry. Was over here scratching my head because I'm not carrying my logo less bags because of classism (let's be honest, a lot of this has to do with a specific set of folks who were not liking the fact that these "luxury" bags were becoming more accessible and certain "undesirables" *cough* ghetto *cough* were getting their hands on them.) Now, it's "let's carry the iykyk bags without logos on them" to set themselves a part. Meanwhile this entire time, I was carring these bags because that was my style. Simply and sleek looking paired with simple t shirt, jeans, and some vans.
@zua77
@zua77 Жыл бұрын
We are in a recession. All these influencers are just playing into quiet luxury b/c a lot of folks no longer want to watch endless amounts of expensive unboxing. So how do you keep your audience engaged? Start talking about how expensive luxury has become, even though you played apart in that happening. These people are extremely transparent and if the audience can’t see that, they’re blind.
@maryjomichele
@maryjomichele Жыл бұрын
@zua77. Yesssss!
@jasonmartnz
@jasonmartnz Жыл бұрын
THIS IS IT!
@ladyfrance3
@ladyfrance3 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant 🤗. One of tte best comment !
@brooke4188
@brooke4188 Жыл бұрын
💯
@holistichealthhacksinfo
@holistichealthhacksinfo Жыл бұрын
Right. At the end of the day, these people are creators first! They always gotta find a way to make "shocking" content for views.
@donnapug
@donnapug Жыл бұрын
I still can’t understand why it’s a thing. Can’t solely blame Succession. We’ve always known old money exists, and we’ve always known about quiet luxury and classism, but this is yet another social media trend that will pass - they all do!
@krispy3736
@krispy3736 Жыл бұрын
succession isnt even old money they're literally new money
@genzillennial
@genzillennial Жыл бұрын
It may be a reach but I also think this is connected to the rise of the “feminine/ level up” influencers and the need to “attract wealthy men” by dressing and acting a certain way
@lvettesonai
@lvettesonai Жыл бұрын
Succession is quiet luxury. Not necessary, Old Money. That's where the mix-up comes in.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 Жыл бұрын
No American is Old Money. By definition.
@seabreeze4559
@seabreeze4559 Жыл бұрын
@@krispy3736 Old Money is from the Old World, as I mentioned in my comment, explained in full. It's a racial religious group called WASP. Some other aristocratic countries from Europe also count but less.
@girlinmtl
@girlinmtl Жыл бұрын
It's the same conversation as it was in 2008 after the financial crisis. It went from big logos to plain. Just maintain integrity to who you are and dress how you want.
@jesseleeward2359
@jesseleeward2359 9 ай бұрын
It also became 'old money aesthetic' remember the explosion of Gaga and Lana Del Rey
@chidenisee
@chidenisee Жыл бұрын
My grandmother was old money. I mean for a black family 1920 and up old money. She wore and did what she wanted. Her old money friends as well. She didn't do LV or Gucci of course because they were not in our state yet and they didn't know about that brand, but she did the furs, clothes, cars, and property. I learned from her to just do me.
@no.reply_
@no.reply_ Жыл бұрын
My Idea of "quiet luxury" is getting a leather craftsman to make you a nice bag or supporting small leather goods brands where things cost less but the quality is on par with bigger brands, at least that was what I was expecting not whatever this pretentious ish is
@carrington2949
@carrington2949 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. I also love bespoke goods for that reason.
@klaramathilda9929
@klaramathilda9929 Жыл бұрын
So true and that takes out the annoying „if you know you knwo“ shit… of course ppl will notive the quality of an item but whats more important that it will last you very long
@sparker7768
@sparker7768 Жыл бұрын
Sadly, we are still worrying about what "people" will or won't notice 🙄
@mabel9701
@mabel9701 Жыл бұрын
Same. Quality and craftsmanship > logos
@iamjholloway
@iamjholloway Жыл бұрын
Yea, the quiet luxury topic is becoming too much. Just buy and wear what you like. It’s gonna be funny to see the trend switch when the quiet pool gets too full 😂. Loved the video. Thanks for sharing 😊
@randomchannel323
@randomchannel323 Жыл бұрын
We will probably see rappers in full loro piana fits soon 🤣
@GentaWysong
@GentaWysong 5 ай бұрын
But the truth is who is going to scrutinize your bag like this. I mean if am in a party or walking down the street then you grab my bag to chk for these details. I judge the real and the fake by looking at who is carrying the *preluxz* . If they dress the part then it must be real. What can I say.
@Flower.Power.1996
@Flower.Power.1996 Жыл бұрын
Luxury is inherently exclusive and classist. I am trying to understand, are people upset they can't partake in quiet luxury? It is all classist.
@djlivvy46
@djlivvy46 Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I thought as soon as I saw the title!
@oui_si917
@oui_si917 Жыл бұрын
Spot on. The appeal of luxury is its exclusivity. The whole point of luxury is that it's "hard to get into." Why do we think Hermes gatekeeps their Birkins so hard and Chanel's handbags are probably going to rival the cost of a small home at some point? If the masses can get their hands on all those items, it's no longer exclusive, no longer special, no longer luxury. It's Target at that point. I love Target by the way - nothing wrong with their products but they're not luxury. So yes people are upset that the more folks can gain access by whatever means, the more luxury brands and gatekeepers will move the goalposts to ensure that luxury remains exclusive. But ironically the appeal of exclusivity - the undercurrent of classism - is probably what makes the luxury product appealing in the first place.
@yourfavpersuasion9385
@yourfavpersuasion9385 Жыл бұрын
i am starting to think bw do not know what luxury is!
@creepersonspeed5490
@creepersonspeed5490 Жыл бұрын
I think it's because people keep moving the goal posts of what is classy
@djlivvy46
@djlivvy46 Жыл бұрын
@@creepersonspeed5490 - classist and classy are not necessary the same thing though.
@vvforme
@vvforme Жыл бұрын
1000 percent. The racism and classism in quiet luxury reminds me of suburban sprawl. Someone buys a nice house in a nice neighborhood and loves it - until someone they look down on buys the house next door. Then they need to move somewhere nicer where the hoi polloi can’t reach them. They were fine with their LV mono and Chanel flap and Dior oblique until they saw others wearing them. Now it’s no logo only. Girl, bye…
@thisgirlisfancy
@thisgirlisfancy Жыл бұрын
This!
@SaffariRose
@SaffariRose Жыл бұрын
Yep. And it happens through history too. Back then when jewelry and bright clothing was a sign of a wealth (besides jewels, coloured dyes were expensive and rare), wealthy people, nobles and royals were the only ones wearing it. But when costume jewelry was created and dyes became affordable, suddenly loud bright colors and gaudy jewelry became a sign of the poor. The elite are always shifting base when the masses catch up. They still do so till today.
@sophiademure
@sophiademure Жыл бұрын
@@SaffariRose So true.
@Krnesbitt
@Krnesbitt Жыл бұрын
@@SaffariRosewhat’s wrong with that? Wealthy people do not want the same things poor people have. That is why they went the extra mile to become wealthy. Regular people should have regular thing. Special people should have special things.
@SaffariRose
@SaffariRose Жыл бұрын
@@Krnesbitt Wealth does not make you special.
@katybroyles2805
@katybroyles2805 Жыл бұрын
Eh, as someone much older than you, this trend comes around after every logo-mania trend. I’ve never watched Stella, but the nice thing about the “old money” aesthetic is that it doesn’t change. Buy something nice quality, even second hand. Take good care of it. It will last forever and you’ll spend less money over the years than you will buying every trend. I agree trying to change your aesthetic to be superior to others is bad.
@jillgonzalez8330
@jillgonzalez8330 Жыл бұрын
I agree! ❤
@blktauna
@blktauna Жыл бұрын
Right there with you. I'm cheap and lazy so I want to buy something excellent once vs lots of crap often. But thats just me. It's also more my aesthetic to go simple and buy "good". If its not yours, then you do you. Don't worry about others.
@genzillennial
@genzillennial Жыл бұрын
I agree both with you as well as the creator, I think if the language and attitude around the topic featured more of the talking points you made here about timeless sustainable style it would have a better reception. However most of what I see online is “if you you wear logos and follow trends you are actually broke and tacky because actually wealthy people do xyz” then they insert a photo of a fist generation wealthy celebrity in a skimpy tweed suit or tennis outfit.
@alleyinn1
@alleyinn1 Жыл бұрын
Im almost 50 but I disagree with you. Ive been fashion obsessed for 32 years. Ive never seen the OBSESSION with quiet luxury/old money that see now. The "old money" aesthetic doesnt change bc it is bland. One way to never go out of style is to not have discernable style in the first place. The game changer now is social media which is creating a "thing" out of all of this. The root of all of the nonsense is classicism ... AND racism
@carrington2949
@carrington2949 Жыл бұрын
Therein lies the rub. Those luxury items are not as well made as they used to be. They are not lasting for years.
@sherane_h
@sherane_h Жыл бұрын
I agree with the reason behind this trend is luxury is more accessible and now wearing it is not anything special - so the "girls" are setting a new trend to distinguish themselves. Also - some simply can no longer afford the luxury they used to purchase - like many of us who are trying to remain as financially stable in this crazy economy right now. I truly believe they are trying to coverup the fact that they're reverting back to affordable, possibly mid-luxe items and don't want to admit it to their followers - such as the example you gave in this video
@Breonaleonard
@Breonaleonard Жыл бұрын
Yup. Exactly. Let’s keep it real
@jnita3661
@jnita3661 Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@helena3631
@helena3631 Жыл бұрын
i would never buy the luxury goods at the inflated prices they are now ,the quality is horrible across all brands..brands know when the economy is bad people want to appear rich..my friend told me her mom was going to pay for a cruise when she graduated her masters i told her have your mom give you a check and i will go with you to open that brokerage account she was happy i told her that because it never came to her mind or her moms mind because her mother is working class never knew about investing etc so i am 5 years older and i put her on to what i know and about high yield savings accounts shes been on cruises before now its time to make that money work for you ..quiet luxury is your zip code and not trading your time for money which many people work overtime to pay for luxury goods
@hoshimawari1494
@hoshimawari1494 Жыл бұрын
This is probably only a trend in the West only. In China and South Korea, the wealthy and the middle class are still rocking monogram and labels. I know in Japan, "quiet luxury" aesthetic has always been a thing with many women preferring brands like Hermes, Delvaux, Moynat, and The Row.
@sofians1483
@sofians1483 Жыл бұрын
I think in germany its the same. The old money people use "quiet luxury" or use understatements for clothing. German Influencer wearing more big fashion logos.
@ifeyhome
@ifeyhome Жыл бұрын
Black folks need to also realise that the 'old' in old money aesthetic, often generates from plantation profits passed down the generations
@VioletFem
@VioletFem Жыл бұрын
I’m glad someone finally said this.
@edwinhuang803
@edwinhuang803 Жыл бұрын
Most of the real old luxury brands r from Europe and their aesthetic has nothing to do plantation profits.
@ifeyhome
@ifeyhome Жыл бұрын
@@edwinhuang803 oh yes, because we ALL know the European countries were not involved in the transatlantic slave trade. What a dumbo you are!🥴
@djlivvy46
@djlivvy46 Жыл бұрын
​@@edwinhuang803 - I don't understand what you mean? France and Spain etc were fully involved in slavery and colonialism.
@edwinhuang803
@edwinhuang803 Жыл бұрын
@@djlivvy46 To answer that question, u need to read history about the formation of European aesthetic, the period that France and Spain were involved in the Transatlantic slave trade or more specifically to the area which is now known as the US, the contribution of the slave trade to their economy during that particular trade. BTW, colonialism is not exactly the same as slavery and slavery is not equal to exploiting slaves in American plantations.
@lisatakeitorleaveit
@lisatakeitorleaveit Жыл бұрын
There are people that mimic fashion and there are people that are fashionable they are very different. If you are fashionable, you wear what makes you happy - you play with things, you mix things up and you do not copy what others think is the in thing. Love these videos!
@MsRight-sb5ds
@MsRight-sb5ds Жыл бұрын
Personally I think new money is a bigger flex because it’s based on something that I have done! But like you stated, they both literally have money 💰
@joemichael5155
@joemichael5155 Жыл бұрын
Yup new money actually worked. Old money just inherited it.
@traceyreneerivera-fernande6876
@traceyreneerivera-fernande6876 Жыл бұрын
Black people are prominent in the luxury community my daughter is a director in a dept at a luxury brand in her industry there are black young ladies in the boardroom. All of her roommates work in luxury brands corporate offices in Manhattan. You young black ladies are the STANDARD PERIOD .
@bryanna_renaee
@bryanna_renaee Жыл бұрын
🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾
@djlivvy46
@djlivvy46 Жыл бұрын
Yes and no. Ownership is the real luxury.
@carrington2949
@carrington2949 Жыл бұрын
​@@djlivvy46 Ownership can be obtained through stock options as well. Also connections are a luxury factor. Building a network of people who are in the know and well connected is a luxury.
@djlivvy46
@djlivvy46 Жыл бұрын
@@carrington2949 - exactly my point. Being in the luxury spaces of other people is not enough in this day and age.
@dva5610
@dva5610 Жыл бұрын
Bullshit
@neige4221
@neige4221 Жыл бұрын
The only winners in this “quiet luxury” thing is the companies who are selling to people who seem to have too much money.
@joshuajackson7050
@joshuajackson7050 2 ай бұрын
Facts 2000 percent markup.
@debraalleyne1760
@debraalleyne1760 Жыл бұрын
The argument about quiet luxury is so silly. It is a way for the industry to make more money. They need to make you feel like the logo mania they pushed last season is over, make you get rid of those items and get items that are the polar opposite.
@stephfrancis7109
@stephfrancis7109 Жыл бұрын
Exactly, buying certain things just to look wealthy, whether quiet luxury or otherwise wont make you feel better about yourself because it is totally fake. I buy designer and non-designer handbag and shoes because I love shoes and handbags. It's like art work to me. I personally don't care what people think although I love fashion. However, people can complain all they want to about designer handbags whether you are wealthy or poor or it old money or new money. Buy what you love, give to the poor, be kind and courteous to others, be forgiving, don't lie, don't steal, don't think and behave like you are better that the poor person on the streets, stop being racist and hateful and be a decent human being. Material things at the end of the day means nothing. Your heart is what matters. Classism is thinking you are better than others. Well that is not good and you should be careful. Buy what you want and be happy. Just make sure your heart is in the right place, and remember that everyone will walk through the same door one day.
@georgettemayo3696
@georgettemayo3696 Жыл бұрын
@ Step Francis So True and fully agree🙌🏾👏🏾
@chiaraamadori9258
@chiaraamadori9258 Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏
@jnita3661
@jnita3661 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@bernicewise8313
@bernicewise8313 Жыл бұрын
Well Said! Because a person does not know people stories. Yes! be kind.
@winterseason1357
@winterseason1357 Жыл бұрын
this is reverse psychology. They want people moving out of canvas and logo prints and go for muted leather or clothes and accessories that are easier to manufacture and most likely cheaper because the logos are not included. And they are charging more making you think it's more expensive and of course exclusive
@JoleeSO
@JoleeSO Жыл бұрын
Sorry, posting too much, but the snobism actually makes me want to carry my logo bags😊
@mekakoop9777
@mekakoop9777 Жыл бұрын
🤣😂💯
@JoleeSO
@JoleeSO Жыл бұрын
Switched into my Palm Springs mini after watching this
@MsRight-sb5ds
@MsRight-sb5ds Жыл бұрын
Same!!
@DemureDarlings
@DemureDarlings Жыл бұрын
And not a damn soul gonna stop us! I have Fendi, Gucci, Louis V and I will get my money’s worth👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to the fakes and "super fakes" I honestly don't care if strangers think my bag is fake because I know it's real, I feel achieved with my bags ❤
@mnique
@mnique Жыл бұрын
Old Money is also associated with nepotism. So basically, if you are old money, you didn't work for anything and you're using your family funds etc
@jesseleeward2359
@jesseleeward2359 9 ай бұрын
Old money is literally nepotism. I think nepotism translates to 'of the nephew' or 'of the grandson'
@robertaw3434
@robertaw3434 Жыл бұрын
You hit the nail on the head. People who have money don't need to be influencers and spell any of this out on social media for everyone. Also, many people with true "old money" also have something that many do not have; impeccable manners, educate themselves and have interesting conversations and are well spoken. All things that are free. Also, they are not bragging about what they have. Lastly, I could care less who has money based on skin color, I want everyone to do well in life and be happy and healthy. One thing I will say, many black women have a level of fashion sense that white gals don't have. The black culture is indoctrinated into your fashion choices and I admire it! (please know that I am complimenting and no offense intended.)
@perfectlycoiffed05
@perfectlycoiffed05 Жыл бұрын
I’ve started to see “look like old money/quiet luxury” videos pop up more frequently and just assumed these YTers were just running out of content. You make very valid points. THINGS have always been used to try to separate the “haves” from the “have nots”…so when things appear to be leveling out in a particular area it causes angst for some. 😏. I just saw a video where a woman described how she stayed at a “5 Star” resort in Turkey and was taken aback by there being an actual replica store on the premises because she had always thought of street markets and other seedy places as the location where those would be sold…🤣🤣🤣 and worried that someone might think her bag was fake… I couldn’t help but think “why do you care.” TFS
@wallflower.y
@wallflower.y Жыл бұрын
thanks for this video, i’m so tired of trends im general, because that’s what this is- just another trend. i have no doubt logomania will be back before you know it. Just wear whatever you want 😩
@ebonyspears2960
@ebonyspears2960 Жыл бұрын
I was just telling a friend about this, I do not watch this show but the "old money" aesthetic screams classist and racist. I call it the slave master look ( dramatic : I know) I would never want to look like that and do not covet that life style. But no one wants to just call it what it is. I WORK HARD and am financially responsible, have always been a LOGO gal since undergrad and could care less what is on trend. You can't count my coins by the Gucci and Fendi logos all over my body. Eh, I am so over it. Also you look really great ( as always). Stay well, great video
@ifeyhome
@ifeyhome Жыл бұрын
Yep. Old money is just plantation profits passed down the generations. Is this the aesthetic Black folks are coveting?
@vash7304
@vash7304 Жыл бұрын
The "black women in luxury" connection blew my mind!!! It makes perfect sense.
@themanifestorsmind
@themanifestorsmind Жыл бұрын
I really hate that this is becoming a trend. I've always gone for the more low key items. And now it makes me look like I'm following a trend when that's simply how I've always been. I never liked logos.
@blktauna
@blktauna Жыл бұрын
Feel sorry for those people who buy stuff to feel better than anyone else. They are sad. You take the things you enjoy wearing and go for it. Those "influencers" are just doing what they do to make a buck. You can tell who is really on a style vs those who are just shifting to make a buck and have no taste or style of their on.
@isylo8497
@isylo8497 Жыл бұрын
SO TRUE ! I AGREE TOTALLY WITH NOT TO INTENTIONALLY ACT WHO YOU R NOT. REGARDLESS HOW YOU LIKE TO DRESSOR WHAT BRAND YOU WANT TO BUY.
@ItsKatieDanger
@ItsKatieDanger Жыл бұрын
I love how you linked the elitism to it bc seriously that’s all this discussion is really about 👏🏾
@LooksByNaheemah
@LooksByNaheemah Жыл бұрын
I’ve noticed over the course of my 22 years of life, it seems as soon as black people start entering into spaces they were previously excluded from and make that ish fly, viral, and popular it’s all of a sudden deemed “less desirable” by yt people. It’s classism, elitism, and it always comes back to racism at the end of the day.
@josiahattlin2798
@josiahattlin2798 Жыл бұрын
except that just proves that black people and blackness is the problem. Why are you trying to encroach upon and appropriate another races culture? Why do you feel entitled to the idea that certain races need to relinquish their cultures to black people, just so they can hijack and falsely claim it as their own? especially considering that black people are ultra sensitive, exclusionary, racist, and hostile when another race enters black spaces or cultures. the reason you were "excluded" is because its not your culture. unpack the black supremacist notion that everything belongs to (and has to be about) black people. And unpack your hypocrisy that is rooted in your blackness. deconstructing you, it seems that you are bothered by "old money" because it comes from white culture. And everything that surrounds "old money culture": clothes, fashion, aesthetics, lifestyles, activities, values, etc comes from white people. Which dismantles many narratives that many POC may have, but wont assume for you. It also seems that you are bothered that a trend that is getting popular that has nothing to do with black people. Black people like to posture themselves as a people that started everything (your own comment eludes to this narrative), so it makes you insecure to see a culture become trendy that has nothing to do with blackness or black people.
@traceyreneerivera-fernande6876
@traceyreneerivera-fernande6876 Жыл бұрын
This whole quiet mess is getting on my last nerve I'm watching all the youtubers I watch do a about face. I live in a wealthy area in CT I manage two psychiatry practices in my town 90 percent of our patients are millionaires. These people come in here pay the cost of a LV never full for an hour session. These ladies come in here asking me about my clothes and bags how to buy them preloved. They wear the same thing we wear and like a good deal plus allot of the husbands are not allowing their wives to spend their money like that. I helped a millionaire buy his wife a vintage LV from Japan I will clean the bag up she will love it ...
@nataliexrd256
@nataliexrd256 Жыл бұрын
I loved this video and your points. I really think it's a lot of marketing tactics. They need us to keep buying new stuff and the only way to do that is to make us feel like the stuff we have is now trash.
@Theresamamah
@Theresamamah Жыл бұрын
If someone is REALLY wealthy, the flex is to see how unattractive/unstylish/boring they can be/look and still get adored lol! I was a guest on a podcast the other day and everyone talking about how to be in the ideal relationship were single. They talked about such cookie cutter things and I was just like “I’ve been married for 10+ years and my husband loves me even when I wear a bonnet. I never needed to do all the things you just talked about.” 🤣
@bags_books_and_bowwows
@bags_books_and_bowwows Жыл бұрын
Great points. The whole dynamic right now - especially in that TikTok post - really makes me think about high school sophomores bullying high school freshmen. Old money, new money, or no money, to me the ideal is to be comfortable in your own skin and enjoy the (hopefully thoughtful) purchases you make. Happy, confident people do not need to dunk on other people. End of. Another aspect of glorifying “old money” that I find troubling is that it inherently glorifies the status quo, which if you look back, includes a whole lot of patriarchy, white supremacy, anti-semitism, homophobia and whatever else. And yet, I’d be perfectly happy to own a beautifully tailored cream cashmere blazer.
@heartmumblr
@heartmumblr Жыл бұрын
👏👏👏You said everything right, in my opinion. Also, when you said “if you’re new money and have money, and if you’re old money and have money, you both have money….” I had to re-play that and cackle laughing 😂 Well done friend. ❤
@mel.affiliate
@mel.affiliate Жыл бұрын
The printed LV bag always screamed classism lol. This is crazy. I’m here for quiet luxury. By the time I finally was able to afford a real Gucci belt (with the print and gold double G) I felt like an idiot wearing it.
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 Жыл бұрын
Why can't we just love what we love and embrace that we have different styles. I'll continue to be a "basic Becky" with my LV monogram because it makes me happy and I will always adore LV canvas over their leather bags. I don't like the quiet luxury look but I don't go around and criticise those who do like them. ❤
@maryjomichele
@maryjomichele Жыл бұрын
@Erin Biko same. Eff what people think. I love monogram.
@sarizonana
@sarizonana Жыл бұрын
I want an alma BB in the damier ebene. You know People love to hate those canvas bags but the true. They only truly luxury bags that you can trust Will work like forever. Its a bag you can take everywhere and dont be stressed on scratches or similar. I actully love the spedee and the never full. My only beef with The never full is that i think Its a bag that i can find something similar for way less. Which is what happens to me with The Classic flap. I love that bag but i would never spend the 10,000 when I can find a similar bag from Kate Spade
@erinnadia0409
@erinnadia0409 Жыл бұрын
@@sarizonana buy that Alma bb in damier Ebene! My best friend has it and she loves it so much. She uses it everyday and it still looks brand new. The canvas bags are amazing for everyday. I have the speedy, Neverfull, Pochette Métis and Pochette accessories and I couldn't imagine my life without them now. I would love the alma bb in damier Ebene actually for myself too.
@Keesha
@Keesha Жыл бұрын
Our babe is just out here glowing…. yaaass!!! My thing is this….. old money aesthetic used to be called smart dressing. My grandmother wore tonal clothing, monochrome etc. It was always considered more proper to dress more modestly and not show too much skin, which she did. And my Nan taught me that every girl should have at least one good bag ( she had a Kelly), a good coat and a smart pair of shoes. Now apparently, that’s a fashion trend?! Social media has turned everything on its head😂
@maryohmaryoh
@maryohmaryoh Жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful and nuanced take on this issue. I am not Gen Z, the demo that appears to be at the heart of these convos on social, but as some one interested in fashion it has caught my attention and yes it is kind of icky. The phrase "old money aesthetic" gets on my nerves especially. There is something rather depressing about so many people putting so much importance on being something they are not. People's personal styles evolve, and sometimes refine with time, and I applaud anyone trying to put their best foot forward and dressing a certain way can indeed help one get ahead. But, more and more people seem to have an unhealthy fixation on appearing to be upper class-- at least on social.
@kaijaloren
@kaijaloren Жыл бұрын
Accidentally fell into this rabbit hole and now I’m stuck for a minute until the algorithm says otherwise. This is all interesting. I’ve personally never been a fan of “labels” or flashy logos on clothing for myself. It started in high school because I got tired of trying to fit in based on clothing that I could not afford. I realized later that it’s more convenient because no logo means my clothes aren’t outdated next year
@pure_indulgence8144
@pure_indulgence8144 Жыл бұрын
I 100% agree with everything you said in this video. The issues run very deep with this “quiet luxury” trend and it’s sad. Just wear what you like people and don’t be so concerned about what people think of you!!! And here I thought the “how to look rich” videos were bad enough!!!
@AutumnBeckman
@AutumnBeckman Жыл бұрын
Lots of things to make us think. Thanks for this thoughtful take on the topic.
@tdz1658
@tdz1658 Жыл бұрын
I have obvious logo bags and subtle logo bags, and I love all of them. I used to use the subtle ones more because they seemed more appropriate for many occasions, but this trend made me end up using my logo bags more because I don't want to be perceived as that type of people (yep exactly what you described in this video).
@LatoyaLlab
@LatoyaLlab Жыл бұрын
I believe the whole idea of quiet luxury has always been about class. For example ,there are not many who can afford a $1500 baseball cap or a $15,000 handbag. I think as working class folks we should buy what we like and can afford resasonably. Those who are wealthy are afforded opportunities to dress in a particular way. The reason it’s discussed so much now is because of social media.
@AimeeMarsh-m5y
@AimeeMarsh-m5y Жыл бұрын
I bought the Beis weekender a few years ago! I absolutely love it for my weekend trips out of town each month. When I bought it I didn’t see any influencers using it.
@deerlydoodledogs4072
@deerlydoodledogs4072 Жыл бұрын
“You both have money” yes sis lol 😂 😂😂😂🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼
@panhradu
@panhradu 8 ай бұрын
If people judge you for what you are wearing in any way it means you are with bad people....unless you are doing it too.
@veronicataylor9831
@veronicataylor9831 Жыл бұрын
This video has really made me think and reflect on my own personal views on certain luxury items. I didn’t know this was a “thing” but everything you’ve explained makes total sense. People need to focus on themselves and what they want (and can/cannot afford) instead of measuring their success against their ability to buy something that their neighbor can’t.
@bernicewise8313
@bernicewise8313 Жыл бұрын
Exactly! I totally agree!
@crystalcastillo7575
@crystalcastillo7575 Жыл бұрын
This was such a good video and yeah it’s so annoying seeing the amount of influencers pivoting into making “how to dress Classy” videos and then almost always using the word tacky in it. And in top of that they always talk about “well a man wouldn’t like this type of amount”… like really… why are we dressing for other people 😑😑😑 It just makes me want to block them overall b/c how dense can you be
@Amy12358
@Amy12358 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! It is so fake to pretend to be old money when you are not. Also, your hairstyle is so cute!
@needes8559
@needes8559 Жыл бұрын
I agree with you on some many points. It’s actually pretty pathetic that people want to feel “ Special “ this badly. First it was the Neverfull. I saw a youtuber once say it was low class. Not that they disliked the bag because of materials or otherwise but because it is “cheap”. I also think the black girl luxury trend and accessibility has alot to with this also. This is all so stupid and pointless. I can’t wait till we move on to something else. The luxury community online isn’t even enjoyable any more.
@randomchannel323
@randomchannel323 Жыл бұрын
Yeah it's weird like wearing billionaire clothing brands is just going to make me poor it's not going to elevate my lifestyle in any way
@llandriell
@llandriell Жыл бұрын
Does anyone else think that ‘shopping luxury’, quiet or loud, is the biggest trick at play here? ‘Shopping quality’ isn’t cheap, but it’s a hell of a lot more affordable than luxury shopping. Flexing is a toxic cycle of not feeling good enough, you can only break it by learning that no one really cares what you are wearing/ carrying. It all feels like a scam.
@KWSHOPS
@KWSHOPS Жыл бұрын
Don’t have time to watch right now! But so glad to see you covering this topic. Can’t wait to watch ❤️❤️
@AC-ih1dr
@AC-ih1dr Жыл бұрын
I used to work high end retail in the early 2000s. Even then, we could tell who was new money and had something to prove. You could put together the best outfit for an event and they would literally ask for logos in slightly hushed embarrassed tones. Thats because they had people to impress. I am not going to say that wealth whispers.... BUT I will say that there is more of a focus on quality and sometimes a noticeable aesthetic more than being logo heavy. That being said, you don't have to have a closet full of THE ROW. Its more about not looking like a walking billboard ad.
@bernicewise8313
@bernicewise8313 Жыл бұрын
Exactly!
@ladyfrance3
@ladyfrance3 Жыл бұрын
Thinking exactly like you!
@ReeganKhtana
@ReeganKhtana 3 ай бұрын
the LYXBAG would be super cute during the fall with a nude or tan or even tonal outfit! i’m thinking a tan wool coat with that bag!!
@nouvelle1499
@nouvelle1499 Жыл бұрын
It always has been. Old money is literally THE mark of class conflict, and this has always been apparent in countries other than the US as most have some history with this divide.
@itsmeLori
@itsmeLori Жыл бұрын
As a person who doesn’t buy things to feel superior or to show off wealth it’s so weird that everyone (influencers) is seizing on this term and showing us that they’re not into fashion design whatsoever and only ever chose products to look rich. That’s so sad. I know this mentality has been around since the dawn of civilization but it makes me feel bad for people who really attach their self worth to whether or not other people THINK they’re rich. The bigger irony is all of the US was subject to this snobbery by Europeans, and fashion and custom and manners were all just mechanisms for people to alienate and exclude people from things. Then some generations passed and people wanna act like they “old money” now as if if that’s a virtue. The only thing I’m ever going to flex is the fact that IDGAF what anyone else thinks bc I love my style and that’s that. Edit to add: I’m also old enough to have been through this cycle a few times albeit without social media algorithms favoring the use of terminology like quiet luxury. Every time logos fall out of favor there’s some segment of people who start hating on it like it’s tacky, whether it’s because they’re classist, racist, or just wannabe trend setters. There’s always an undertone of classism, as you point out. As hip hop got more commercial throughout the 90s there were tinges of this kind of hate too. I couldn’t afford luxury items back then but I loved the aesthetic. And I never once was tempted to be ashamed to rock flashy things if that’s what I felt like that day. The more people looked down on it the more I enjoyed making them feel uncomfortable. I’m not ashamed of where I came from I’m proud. So honestly, f*ck these people who want to make anyone feel bad, whether it’s about money or even if it’s just being “dated.” Personal style is timeless. Everyone just do you.
@daisymorris9430
@daisymorris9430 Жыл бұрын
I HATE when people say something is ghetto. I cringe ! I always call people out on it and then everyone gets I uncomfortable and makes it seem like I’m being overly sensitive.
@anisafiloniainteriors
@anisafiloniainteriors Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! resonate with all you are saying! Im in interiors and it irks me so much on KZbin where there is "make your house LOOK expensive!" How about we move towards how can we be ourselves and reflect that in the way we dress and in our homes!
@christinianamariahsain19
@christinianamariahsain19 Жыл бұрын
I Think These People Are Getting New Contacts With Small Companies So Telling You What’s Better Is Their New Job (Money Grab)… Love Your Channel Beautiful Keep Up Your Amazing Work… ✨
@LortsJailsus
@LortsJailsus Жыл бұрын
This is what I said. I think all these “influencers” talking about old money are being paid by Loro Piana and lying about it.
@christinianamariahsain19
@christinianamariahsain19 Жыл бұрын
@@LortsJailsus We’re Not Wrong Trust And Believe That… Most Are Being Manipulated By These Same People Yet Again…
@l0111
@l0111 Жыл бұрын
And it says a lot about them that they previously only considered logos and not quality first, before jumping on the LP and Moynat train. Especially now that BW are rocking luxury items casually.
@christinianamariahsain19
@christinianamariahsain19 Жыл бұрын
@@l0111 All Facts… 💕 We Can Do What You Do Just Better… 💕
@dennisarndt216
@dennisarndt216 Жыл бұрын
I love your macrame hangers. I remember them so well from the 70s. All the rage in the day. Nice to see it back. First time in your channel. 😃
@tru.roux.23
@tru.roux.23 Жыл бұрын
Great job!!👏🏽👏🏽You did a wonderful job at articulating your view on this topic without being judgmental or emotional! I can definitely respect “quiet luxury.” It has always existed, but I’m Team Loud Luxury forever!! 😂❤
@lvettesonai
@lvettesonai Жыл бұрын
I mean, I've been enjoying luxury/fine quality garments for decades without logos. No one knew what it was unless they asked. All of a sudden it's a "fad". But, those who are jumping on it as a trend, will never wear it well because they don't really know quality. - I know that sounds elitist, and for that I'm sorry. Just wear and do what you want. 💖
@ssoomee
@ssoomee Жыл бұрын
I also think the quiet luxury trend is being pushed because of a fear from luxury customers of being targeted by thieves in these times of stratifying inflation and economic stagnation. I’ve definitely read several stories of people wearing obviously luxurious goods but then having those things returned to them because the robbers realised they were fake and couldn’t be sold for the value they wanted 👀
@damibeelin2
@damibeelin2 Жыл бұрын
Didn’t watch the entire video as yet. The title caught my attention, because I love watching KZbin videos and all this quiet luxury was grinding my gears. How are they not realizing that a lot of people were not financially able to make day to day purchases much less luxury purchase and the fact that some people are now financially secured enough to make luxury purchases means they can spend their money and whatever they like.( you touched on this)
@lilac.moonlight
@lilac.moonlight Жыл бұрын
Agree with you dear, it’s a sad trend of ”fitting in videos” indeed!
@romanhut2917
@romanhut2917 10 ай бұрын
The old money people are laughing at all of us lol .
@dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122
@dragamboazulinqiacupuntura122 Жыл бұрын
Honestly everyone is trying to be something... and the beginning of it is always fake it till you make it. I dye my hair blonde but I'm not currently naturally blonde... It took me a long time to switch my mindset and be: I like the way I look blonde vs I want others to "see" me as a blonde. So why calling out others for pretending or trying to fit in... We all do it to a lesser or more extent. Not most people are truly true to themselves... Yes lots of us are working on it but we're working on it not by calling others out specially since most of us are coming from there. Now that's a different subject from classism or elitism which I most definitely do my best efforts not to subscribe to.
@Cheerface100
@Cheerface100 Жыл бұрын
I agree with every single point made. 👏🏾 I personally have always been a quiet luxury woman but not necessarily with the current “quiet luxury mindset” it was. Always unintentional for me. I’ve never worn a designer item with logos or easily identifiable because 1. It’s just not my style. 2. At one point in my life I couldn’t afford for it to be my style even if I wanted it to. 😂 I’ve always just dressed stylish and then when I started to make money I continued with understated luxury because technically that’s what I was used to plain. Nice. Clothes. 😂
@thirtyyearcosmetologist
@thirtyyearcosmetologist Жыл бұрын
People will always try to make themselves feel better by trying to appear like they are more elite than someone else. I see girls on here styling Shein clothes better than these girls looking like the designer outlet mall threw up all over them!
@santavictorio4226
@santavictorio4226 Жыл бұрын
This was eye opening. Thank you! 😊
@jennmetts7
@jennmetts7 Жыл бұрын
The prices are stupid high. I think they are pricing themselves out. We should all really stop buying until they come back to reality.
@belkyhernandez8281
@belkyhernandez8281 Жыл бұрын
Fashion itself is about the in group vs the out group.
@CyberMercy
@CyberMercy Жыл бұрын
Quiet Luxury at it's core is about not being a Billionaire's Free Advertising. You dont have to be Old Money to be Low/No Branding. HOWEVER "Luxury" Is, Aways has been, and always will be Classist/Eleatist. The rising trend of Quiet Luxury has less to do with: A Handbag is Not An Identity, and more to with: We Aint With That Wannabe Trash, from Companies and Clents alike. Spectacular Video 😎☕💋
@Misu.A
@Misu.A Жыл бұрын
I cant never be old money but i would love to be new money. I just want to be rich, not working, not be stressed about money.
@moonprincessxoxo
@moonprincessxoxo Жыл бұрын
Same!! I just want to be comfortable. Enough money to spend AND save
@Hechete
@Hechete 8 ай бұрын
I am former old money. I agree-get value out of your stuff. Most clothing brands do a crap job on their stitching - look at the serge for confirmation. They often get the tension wrong. I mostly buy from thrift and consignment shops. Buy what you like! Don't mind trends. But most importantly, what is UP with not being able to find jewel-toned clothing in the west? EVERYONE looks good in it, but all the dyes we get are muted. It's more expensive to make and with recession and all, I get it but we've NEVER had it.
@alicew991
@alicew991 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for this video. You were able to perfectly articulate my feelings toward this new quiet luxury trend and the underlining/implied (toxic and demeaning) messages behind it.
@niononion4363
@niononion4363 Жыл бұрын
What the heck happened to STYLE? People have different styles. Some folks like logos, & others don’t -ugh! Outrageous!!! People to focus on personal growth instead of having a “luxurious” exterior & a ROTTEN interior.
@kelseychin1983
@kelseychin1983 Жыл бұрын
love your content, so glad I found your channel!!! subscribed.
@antigoniwoodland
@antigoniwoodland Жыл бұрын
I love your perspective on this and I totally agree! Thanks for sharing.
@heatherdgolden1988
@heatherdgolden1988 Жыл бұрын
Great video. You are absolutely right. Brands were built up and now that more people have access to those items/brands it’s like how can I separate myself from the masses and be more exclusive? Quiet luxury! That’s it. True old money is problematic. New money is money. Those people worked hard it wasn’t passed down or inherited. Isn’t that the American dream? People should dress how they want regardless of your money. As always people will continue to find ways to separate themselves.
@nikki6599
@nikki6599 Жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think you all need to get a freaking grip. Far more problematic than the non-problem of what a social media personality says is the latest best and hottest thing, is anyone who consumes such media and feels personally attacked by a stranger they will never meet saying the it-bag of two years ago is now out and totally passe. That is simply the nature of trends and fashion. What an exercise in utter futility it is to concern ones self with the fact that those who can afford to do so, perpetually seek ways to distinguish themselves from those with less. My blunt advice: get over it and enjoy expressing yourself outwardly in whatever way gives you joy.
@dva5610
@dva5610 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s just your algorithm that thinks affordable quiet luxury is trending when it’s not. The Row, Old Celine, new new Bottega, Khaite and Brunello are trending in mainstream fashion media. That plastic BEIS tote from that influencer most definitely is not quiet luxury since it’s made of plastic, which was her first mistake.
@JoleeSO
@JoleeSO Жыл бұрын
I love this argument because it’s just hilarious to me. Snobism can be practiced at any wealth level. “ old money” doesn’t hold the patent on snobism. 😅
@theaudjob3267
@theaudjob3267 Жыл бұрын
I'm not a BW but I LOVE seeing "soft life" videos. They always have the best vibes
@karehna6202
@karehna6202 Жыл бұрын
I must not be rich because I don't know what "Quiet Luxury" is.
@ImBiasedWithAdovian
@ImBiasedWithAdovian Жыл бұрын
I think a logo less Loewe bag is as dope as my Gucci & Louis bags. Ppl lack actual style on both sides of the coin. 😂😂
@LooksByNaheemah
@LooksByNaheemah Жыл бұрын
I also feel like the “quiet luxury” thing is talked about more than actually put into practice. Which is so ironic and hilarious. Anyways please buy and wear what you want
@SCT11
@SCT11 Жыл бұрын
It’s funny that the people who talk the most about quiet luxury and are being classist about it have no money and are actually desperate to replicate “old money”…just like they were desperate last year trying to get the latest logo mania bag…sheeple…all of them
@VintageSac
@VintageSac Жыл бұрын
You make some really cogent points! New subscriber here 😊I do think the logo mania just caused such a complete saturation that I know I got sick of it. Crime in my area has recently increased, so I also don’t want to broadcast anything when I have to go into the office. I totally do agree with all of your points, but for me it’s just the swing of the fashion pendulum. Big bags give way to micro bags, and back again. Loud bags are shunned in favor of minimalist bags, and I’m sure it will swing back again.
@georgetteconstant9050
@georgetteconstant9050 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, fit is perhaps the most important thing. Lots of people don't understand what fits them. A full length mirror helps, and having a tailor or seamstress you trust is second to none. They can help educate you on what to look for. If one has doubts if a new item of clothing fits, take it to the tailor and ask. Then decide if it fits (keep it) or if it is worth alteration, (pay for that and have a great fitting item) or opt to return it. The item should be of good quality such as a major brand or department store brand, to make it worth alteration. Recognizing fabric content and construction in general, all this apart from the price of the item, is an education that will keep paying. Good fit is the cornerstone to style.
@baileyjones6864
@baileyjones6864 Жыл бұрын
Some of us really just don’t like logos lol like I think logo prints are ugly and I’ve only thought so
@Becoming_Tae_Rochelle
@Becoming_Tae_Rochelle Жыл бұрын
Same
@michellesimmons3150
@michellesimmons3150 Жыл бұрын
To men luxury has always been about fine quality matériels, craftsmanship and experience. The largest fashion houses have taken a nose dive but there are new up and coming fashion houses that have embraced the old luxury ways and the quality is superb and way above that of chanel, Dior and Gucci. If I were to invest in those three brands today, id buy vintage. The quality of vintage is far above the current.
@bernicewise8313
@bernicewise8313 Жыл бұрын
Yes it is.
@prettynpetty8342
@prettynpetty8342 Жыл бұрын
The word "ghetto" or "ratchet" has been racialized. There's certain type of person you think of when these words come up. It's all part of conditioning. "Tacky" is an all-encompassing term that applies to people without taste regardless of race.
@jaks_bag_attack
@jaks_bag_attack Жыл бұрын
So superdacob did a video about quiet luxury where he posted photos and asked his live chat is this bag quiet lux? It was funny because people said that looks like zara, and I was like zara is doing it great.
@isaacmuth7097
@isaacmuth7097 Жыл бұрын
I feel like it’s always had a classist undertone
@XoXoG
@XoXoG Жыл бұрын
But somehow a birkin still qualifies as “quiet” luxury 😂
@ladyfrance3
@ladyfrance3 Жыл бұрын
Big lol 😂
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