The God Emperor, Arafel, and the Ixians | Dune: Prophecy Episode 1 Review

[@boobootittleman7299]

Mother Superior’s vision gave me chills considering what it implies and WHO she sees. As she’s dying, she sees a worm devouring kingdoms, bloodshed & finally two piercing blue eyes staring out of the darkness of space and time. Then the sisters speak of Arafel & judgement by a Tyrant. That isn’t Paul she’s seeing in her visions…it’s Leto II.

[@maciedixon3983]

I liked the episode..

[@maciedixon3983]

Awesome

[@Gene-r7j]

Really I thought leto was the warm but I definitely think the eyes are thinking machines

[@TheManWhoCan-y6u]

"Got Chills" The catchphrase of the undercerning superfan.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

@@Gene-r7jnah it’s Leto. Leto still has a “human” face for a lot of time. He has the blue eyes of melange addiction. It’s him staring from the future. Cause bro is always there.

[@chaost4544]

Quinn's Ideas will be my go-to youtube page after every Dune: Prophecy episode.

[@valeskacanas9187]

this!

[@superdani152003]

Same

[@Gejokono]

Literally same

[@SD80]

He’s the best

[@puccilove6957]

Same and finally!!

[@jaxon6444]

Quinn YOU’RE the God Emperor for getting this video out so fast.

[@luciajaruf2572]

I really love the idea of the Bene Gesserit influence being visible in the aesthetic of the universe in the future. If it's indeed what's going on, it's a great way of *showing* the long fingers of the sisterhood, along with the truth sayers behind most powerful political figures.

[@thisdamnguyagain4450]

Such a great depiction of strong powerful women done right. I hate this women warrior king bullshit and girl boss is op for no damn reason. I appreciate that in dune the women are bad ass and done realistically

[@The_Reality_Filter]

Now break out the neon glow sticks and banging techno we've got a generic club scene to film...PURE FRANK HERBERT STYLE

[@shotarokaneda7525]

​@@The_Reality_Filter I loved the episode...but a club full of youths not even batting an eye to the heir of the universe?😂😂😂

[@The_Reality_Filter]

@@shotarokaneda7525 how long before we get the first LGBTQI+ sex scene? Ol' Franky boy loved a steamy sex scene...

[@ShouPow]

​@@shotarokaneda7525it's likely the club was filled with house elites so they don't give af about the princess. I'm guessing those others wouldn't want the future empress remembering they were the one who told on the empresses escapades. Her subjects would fall in line

[@moriko4134]

Finally I can have an opinion

[@1984-i1w]

same

[@ramie237]

haha

[@The_Com-Mentor]

Well u actually have to undergo the Gom Jabbar test to truly understa...just kidding 😁.

[@bigstunna2049]

Exactly hahaha wasn't sure how to feel about a prequel until I hear the dune expert give their insight

[@sammalla5238]

the only review that matters

[@Vikingyr]

i think the 2 blue eyes we see in the vision might be leto II eyes looking back at the benegeserit from the veil of time and a reference to that thing in the vision where the reverend mothers cannot look.

[@professorerudite]

I was thinking about that too. Leto II could see all

[@matthewrobbins663]

The sounds made led me to think it's a thinking machine. The eyes matched the lizard robot.

[@DeimosDarkness]

Bingo!

[@JohnTorres1987]

It could also be the leader of the thinking machines.

[@joew9690]

@@JohnTorres1987 IT Was Omnius in back ground we could hear robotic sounds kind'a.

[@j.jennings1722]

Perhaps Desmond is a face dancer? Remember, Gholas were unable to recover their memories until Duncan did it at the end of Messiah.

[@professorerudite]

Yes!!! Good call

[@Acadian10]

I second this! That was my gut feeling when I saw the show.

[@noahsmith835]

That was my first theory!

[@StevenHouse1980]

It's way too early for that level of human talent and skill to make anything close to a face dancer. I think he's Erasmus or one of his kind.

[@greg61377]

But that wouldnt seem to expalin his psychic potenial ? but dune has esablished various psyhic power in the past as with LETO and Ganima also Alliah. being pre-born game them both power similar and different from Paul

[@ralph1628]

*"We have just folded space from Ix. Many machines on Ix. New machines. Better than those on Richesse."* Guild Navigator.

[@alanpennie8013]

I will never fail to grateful to David Lynch for that awesome scene. Dune84 began so well and ended so...

[@jamesgornall5731]

Nwah-rah-wah-wargh: the Bene Gesserret witch must leave

[@folkmarvin]

@@jamesgornall5731 Nwah-rah-wargh! I have never watched the OG Dune with subtitles, but I imagine this is exactly how it is spelled.

[@jamesgornall5731]

@@folkmarvin used to be a running joke at work, one guy could absolutely smash that dialogue

[@Deadrum]

@@jamesgornall5731dammit why can’t I work with such legends 😂 My coworkers wouldn’t even get the reference.. Sadge

[@CaptainCanuck68]

"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind" The Butlerian Jihad

[@tewks4458]

The Butlerian Jihad might be my favorite little detail from Dune. If you're just getting into Dune it might feel like some kind of ret-con to explain why there's no robots or computers in Dune since Dune was written in the 1960s. The fact that it's not a ret-con, and Frank Herbert had such insight into this issue all the way back in the 1960s when personal computers didn't even exist really blows my mind.

[@CaptainCanuck68]

@@tewks4458 That's a great point!

[@chaost4544]

@@tewks4458 I'm really happy they're leaning heavily into the AI stuff already and we're seeing some remnants of them. The first episode isn't what I expected which is a good thing.

[@RobtheStampede]

@@tewks4458 Frank's failson deciding it wasn't a philosophical shift, just the arrival of the bad guys from the Matrix, really says a lot about his creative limitations.

[@feartheoldblood]

This is a good point for others to take note of, however it is an eventuality for the created to create for the purpose of likeness. It's not gonna end well.

[@Emanon...]

Emperor: "Will someone please rid me of this marriage predicament!" Desmond Hart: "Hold my beer"

[@alanpennie8013]

I feel The Emp. will be more freaked out than reassured.

[@DataLal]

Reminiscent of: Henry II: "Will no one rid me of this infernal priest [Thomas Beckett, Bishop of Canterbury]?" Some of his soldiers kill Thomas. Henry II: No, I didn't LITERALLY want him dead! Argh!!

[@alanpennie8013]

@@DataLal It was definitely an outcome the king could live with though.

[@phaedrus1117]

My favorite thing about your channel is that I always push play thinking I'm fairly versed about something and realize about 3 minutes in that I know exactly jack about that topic. Thanks for helping us all geek out about things we enjoy.

[@jaiquanezbensafolizodadica3921]

0:24 I cant even express not only how much i enjoy your channel but how happy i am for this show. The whole episode i was saying to myself "stop looking forward so i can look back" and laughing to myself the worm god is already here 😂 oh presiesnt visions how i love the wibble and wobble

[@RullVox]

I agree, no more bar scenes. It's great to hear the god emperor references, I love the GEOD book.

[@maciedixon3983]

I didn’t like those or the scene where she says shit. Everything else I enjoyed

[@zakr1187]

@@maciedixon3983what’s wrong with the shit scene?

[@m-alexandria-g]

I liked the juxtaposition of the nightclub of the past with the austerity of the future. Clichés are only cliché if the trope is used inappropriately… without accepting constantly repeating patterns used for a new purpose, we wouldn’t have a concept of meaningful storytelling at all as a species, we wouldn’t have developed language beyond grunting and indication.

[@aguspuig6615]

@@m-alexandria-g 100% this. honestly impressed to see such a high quality explanation

[@TheBlackAztec3]

What was wrong with the bar scene?

[@michaelwood543]

This is exactly the kind of analysis of the show I wanted to see. Thank you so much for making it. There are a lot of videos on youtube that assume the watcher knows nothing of the Dune books but yours ties it together for a fan of the Duneverse. Its fun to speculate on where the series maybe going. Im joining your Patreon right now out of appreciation.

[@TacticalTypos]

Even for those of us who don't know much at all, it's great to see and hear that there is such depth and interesting ideas there.

[@The_Reality_Filter]

Now break out the neon glow sticks and banging techno we've got a generic club scene to film...PURE FRANK HERBERT STYLE

[@mud4309]

I KNEW I WASNT CRAZY. I heard people saying “The blue eyes, as we obviously know as viewers, are Paul Atreide’s” and I was like “dawg, if they’re having visions of THE prophecy, its about Leto- the ACTUAL great tyrant who brings about the near-annihilation of the BG, saves humanity, and is the Kwizats Haderach of the correct prophecized generation, not the one who specifically has a terrible reign because he’s not actually the right KH” Me and my Pop are so hyped someone else finally brought all this up 🙏🏽🙏🏽

[@timhenley3602]

Paul’s ‘terrible reign’ occurs because the jihad in which Paul’s Feydakin warriors kill 60 billion is actually a necessary component of the golden path. If you read the books, one of details you pick up is that Paul sees no future in which his jihad can be avoided and the alternative futures he saw are actually worse.

[@tirzahgayla]

after seeing that first deep cut reference and then the burning from within at the end i'm so psyched for this show!

[@heinrichkornelius]

What gets me is how things DON'T CHANGE in 10,000 years in the Dune universe. The feeling of stagnation. Remember, our own recorded history is only 6,000 years and we went from the neolithic to the Internet. Whereas they lived in the same imperium with the same technology and the same political structure for 10,000 years, nearly unchanged. Mindboggling.

[@Mk101T]

Yes me too ... Societal and technological evolution seems virtually non existent .

[@namedrop721]

Imagine thinking humanity is merely a constant upward trend. Clearly this series was written as a warning for you people.

[@highplainsgrifter600]

Modern humans have been around for 250,000 years. 5,000 years ago we developed written language. The history of the human race is literally unchanged for 99% of its existence.

[@professorerudite]

I'm so happy about any God Emperor references

[@JungleJetAviation06]

Me too! I was like okay someone knows what they are doing lol.

[@S1ipperyJim]

@10:15 they didnt outlaw 'machines' only machines that think like humans. otherwise fliers, spice harvesters and spaceships etc etc would not be in the dune universe

[@hussainmohd6298]

The cult of Serena did in fact try to ban all machines, and it went horribly wrong for them.

[@georgewilliamgutarracampos6262]

"Thou shalt not make a machine in the likeness of a human mind" that is the kind of machine that is forbbiden.

[@bababaabababababsbsbsbsbsbaaan]

I can’t believe you’re correcting Quinn , (even if it just because you think he misspoke,) who has literally dozens and dozens of hours of content about this series 😂

[@ShirleyTimple]

You're telling this to someone that has made hours of dune videos, he knows and you're being needlessly pedantic😅

[@ShirleyTimple]

​@@bababaabababababsbsbsbsbsbaaanOP is a crybaby pedant, they need to feel superior as a coping mechanism

[@Ghol-a]

Arafel, the Tyrant, and a possible Ghola? Sign me up. Thanks for the update. Looking forward to your live stream. Hopefully I get a chance to watch it tomorrow.

[@CaptainCanuck68]

I can't wait to see Ghola Duncan Idaho.

[@mathiasman]

@@CaptainCanuck68 Yep! Dune is not Dune without a Duncan ghola! We've seen weirder things than time travel gholas in Dune.

[@theangrydweller1002]

The night club scene had me chuckling. I’d never imagined to see night club in dune with a fremen bar tender wile the characters key bump and vape spice

[@LiraeNoir]

I forgot that barmaid. Gosh. Did they have deep discount on interstellar travels?

[@hurgcat]

the fremen barkeep was really strange lol

[@Canesugar7683]

I loved that even in the world of Dune, monotone 4/4 techno music is what they play in clubs lmao

[@notgonnapay]

Sounds about right for an HBO show.

[@ekekekekk]

@theangrydweller1002 she's probably a spice addict not a fremen

[@LovlyHorror]

As usual, you always have the best 'Dune' takes. I'm so happy to be living in a time where we're getting as much of the stuff as possible.

[@whnvr]

yes!! i am SO glad you mentioned the aesthetic details of the benne gesserit's longterm culture creep - it was perhaps my favourite detail of the episode. there was the "i hope you like minimalism" direct nod to it in conversation with the princess, so its clearly a cognisant detail worthy of being in the script. i think the idea that the benne gesserit go on to define a majority aspects of culture during their multi-millennia manoeuvring is hugely compelling!

[@EccleezyAvicii]

24:37 they are setting up the movies. The general public doesn’t have much knowledge of the Dune world, this show I think aims to build up the lore and back story more for a general audience, so when it comes in the theaters it will hit harder.

[@BooksRebound]

I like the Desmond kinda feels like they just transplanted the actors character in Raised by Wolves lol. He was wasted in that show sadly

[@spencers4121]

100% felt the same lol

[@NeilSchnepf]

On a side note, I do miss that crazy little show :)

[@TheManWhoCan-y6u]

HBO ditched that show to produce crap like this instead. Bravo HBO!

[@KabbalahSherry]

Don't get me started on the travesty that is the cancelation of Raised by Wolves. 🤦🏻‍♀️😒 I will NEVER forgive HBO for wasting that potential, and canceling it before it could answer any f*cking questions. Truly pissed off the fandom.

[@BooksRebound]

@TheManWhoCan-y6u I liked season 1 and wanted to like season 2 but I feel like it kinda went off the rails. There were good parts of season 2 but it also kinda fell apart.

[@thx1138thecrane]

As soon as I saw the intro I knew I had to see what Quinn thought of that shit.

[@Diogolindir]

I really liked the episode. The vibe and the aesthetic. I hope it remains solid. I did not like the bar scene either. But I usually don't enjoy those type of scenes in any kind of show. To me its important how a show makes me feel and I feel similar to how I feel while reading Heretics of Dune.

[@admiralsfleet]

I actually enjoyed the bar scene more because we never see that in Dune. Everything is so bleak and grim. It's a refreshing break to see the rich and powerful unwind in the Dune universe.

[@TigerMark2000]

@@admiralsfleetgood point, but they could have done it in a different way that wasn’t a bar

[@admiralsfleet]

@@TigerMark2000 I agree, it felt very cliched. The rebellious young future monarch goes to the underground dive bar with a secret back room has been in so many shows. I think they just wanted a raunchy scene for the sake of it.

[@The_Reality_Filter]

@@admiralsfleet Now break out the neon glow sticks and banging techno we've got a generic club scene to film...PURE FRANK HERBERT STYLE

[@admiralsfleet]

@The_Reality_Filter Frank Herbert described a spice orgy in a desert sietch. I'm sure 10,000 years before Paul arrived there was probably nightclubs and neon lights in the capital of the empire before it became a prison world for training soldiers

[@briandain8432]

Your Voice is Inseperable from my DUNE experience. I've listened to all your DUNE videos Twice. Great Video.

[@test-sc2iy]

we should crowdsource a quin audiobook version of the dune books

[@lynnmcneely5835]

@@test-sc2iy Honestly I'd pay for that. That's a great idea.

[@tomsullivan9668]

My ears also perked up when they mentioned “The Tyrant.” If we get any other references to the God Emperor, either through prescient visions or through foreshadowing, I will cry tears of joy

[@alanpennie8013]

He was the greatest adversary The BG ever encountered, so he would naturally disturb their prescient sense.

[@justinallen2408]

Why would cry tears of joy for a simple mention of one of the characters from the books? This Fandom is so toxic and sad Jesus. Keep coping bud

[@barrycarter9289]

Best scifi and fantasy comentator out there... THANKS

[@josephcolosi9639]

Can we address the lack of security detail in the show? There are several times when people who should have had security were alone. The emporer being alone with Desmond, the princess being able to go to go around wherever without any security, and the scene where Desmond is with Pruitt are the 3 that stand out.

[@RB725GamingHD]

Yeah I thought about that too. Especially them walking around a nightclub alone 😂

[@professorerudite]

​@@RB725GamingHD😂

[@LoveWisdomFreedom]

Literally, I’m yelling out loud, “WHERE ARE THE GUARDS!!!” 😂

[@krpyton7368]

@@SPIKESPIEGEL1969 Gurney is not even born this takes 1000 years before the events of the first book

[@cotillion]

@@krpyton7368 10000

[@solitudessilentgroove]

Quin is so smart. I've read all the books, but he points out things I've missed or forgotten, and ties it all together. This channel is a wonderful companion. Thanks bro.

[@821Crusader821]

Love the shots of your own bookshelf/collection during these reviews. Adds an awesome vibe to each video/review

[@tlgrooms65]

I enjoyed listening to your thoughts about the show. I was dying to discuss it with someone but none of my friends are into Dune. This was a good substitute.

[@IbbyMelbourne]

I really hope it feels like a prestige HBO tv show and not something cheap. Thought provoking themes, intelligent symbolism, inspired cinematography, creative sets and costumes, smart dialogue.

[@w0mblemania]

I thought it was a "HBO-adjacent" show. Kinda cheap looking, lots of cost cutting. e.g. the imperial throne, the quality of the costumes, the lack of people. The lack of guards everywhere... Dodgy looking spaceships.

[@mrTannu666]

​@@w0mblemaniaYeah not quite at a prestige show level.

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

@@w0mblemania looked good enough for me. Not so sure about the writting tho, we'll have to wait on that one

[@LordCommanderVex]

It isn't, it's disappointing

[@alanpennie8013]

I thought that crappy shuttle looked like a flying cybertruck.

[@pcb462]

I don’t frequent this channel a lot. I think Dune is a solid sci-fi show and all….but of I’m going to watch it…I knew I was coming here first before I heard others break down the episode. Great breakdown and I hope it continues to be great. 💜

[@Captain0conrad]

This episode was so sick. At first I wasn’t sure what to think, but it progressively became more and more interesting and I am really anxious to see where this is going to go.

[@Lotus_River]

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills. I thought it was so bad. It's like they took 30% dune and then added 80% generic bland modern fantasy series to it.

[@chrisregimbal2073]

Thanks for this Quinn. Helped me enjoy the show more. Your Dune lore brain is immense.

[@justinstoll4955]

The bar scene just throws the whole aesthetic to the whole show.

[@mikewillis9537]

That didn't bother me so much as the generic EDM bass blasting, should have been something more , I don't know, More instrumental or live music

[@TheIslandDivision]

That's the bar scene for you. In Dune and reality.

[@Quaaludio]

the show has promise, but it definitely has some CW vibes which are concerning

[@Angers98]

Thank you for adding a lot of context! I found the first half of the episoe slow, but by the time we got to the machine toy and especially the people burning up at the end, I was hooked. I agree the club scene wasn't needed, but showing how people were huffing spice was pretty cool. Can't wait to see where they go with this show!

[@MrGlenbw]

True, like most of the books and Dune: Part One, the story can be a bit of a slow burn (and in some cases, a bit preachy) and requires a bit of patience but once we get all the expositions out of the way, it really gets more spicy (no pun intended) and makes more sense as we go along...

[@justinallen2408]

​@@MrGlenbwthat's if they can make this show good lol

[@NameNotGiven766]

I thought the two blue lights were Leto’s eyes, and that voice is his

[@RB725GamingHD]

I thought the same

[@friedkeenan]

I didn't think so, they seemed to be using the blue glowy eyes as a motif for the thinking machines, like in their showcase of the Butlerian jihad and the lizard toy

[@drivingahead1796]

I think that is most likely Erasmus, which is kinda equally mindblowing

[@w0mblemania]

The two blue lights, and the voice, seemed very mechanical or electronic to me. I thought they were the big AI at the end of the world.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

@@w0mblemaniatbf Leto 2 doesn’t speak in a human voice. He basically speaks in The Voice all the time.

[@joegee2815]

I appreciate this channel to keep these stories straight. I've read the Frank Herbert novels but haven't read the others. I may change that one day.

[@DuneSpice]

I’m digging the first episode, looking forward to it. So far so good, way to go HBO

[@ChuckCanada1]

Quinn thanks for all the videos. I don't comment that often but I watch a lot of your videos. Seriously just thanks and keep it up man.

[@CDeruiter5963]

I like the idea that Desmond is a ghola, especially with his display of breaking the lizard bot, it could be a misdirect of "he's the real machine". If he's a face dancer however, I wonder if early versions have some kind of gland that releases an irritant through their pores? That "slip" in the Bene Gesserit practices could lead to them incorporating more physiological training like enhancing senses of smell and sight to identify them. Another thought that I had was that the weapon is nanotech based and that it's the first iteration of a hunter seeker? Then it would only be later on that the flying poison dart versions get created.

[@Doobie603]

You have never spoiled a story for me, you always add a depth to the story I often would not have reached on my own.

[@gtheavyy8543]

I like the theory that Desmond is a ghola, the more I look the more signs I see: - Truthsayer evaluates that "he is speaking the truth... or at least he believes it to be the truth" - alluding that the memory might be artificial - He speaks about being "reborn, different". It's possible that it's not the worm he describes, it's the Axolotl tank - and BT conditioning confused him into believing the memory was the worm - He questions why "only the Great Houses profit from spice". Bene Tleilax is not a house. - Tleilaxu eyes! There's stories that they enslave the user. They also might contain some microwave tech that cooked the boy. Desmond's eyes do appear to be a bit strange, and twitchy during the scene. - He seems religious and believes in forces that extend beyond man. Tleilaxu is the only Dune faction I know that actually was genuinely religious. All of this setup hints towards a Tleilaxu infiltration attempt, with an aim to legitimize their standing in the Imperium. It appears that Great Houses have monopolized control over everything and the other factions are not so happy about it. If we go in this direction, maybe we will even arrive at project Amal in a future season? (or maybe even later in this one)

[@chrisw.5138]

@@gtheavyy8543 underrated comment

[@KarkofNorheim]

Are you kidding me KZbin? Quinn has had videos on this show and you're holding out? I even searched for this kind of thing and it wasn't recommended. Man I'm looking forward to this. Thanks Quinn

[@the_journeyman_project]

“A beginning is the time for taking the most delicate care that the balances are correct. This every sister of the Bene Gesserit knows.”

[@lm1169x]

I just found your channel and I love listening to your deep DEEP analysis. I look forward to listening as we go through the episodes. Thank you, Quinn-tat. 👍👍

[@EccleezyAvicii]

I thought the rise of the Bene Tleilax would happen much later in the time of Paul? I do agree though that a mechanical threat in nature. He called the boy, who was sympathetic to machines, a sacrifice-that’s a big clue.

[@godofbiscuitssf]

The action at a distance part (death of Kasha) was the only concrete part that bothered me. The more abstract parts (the blue lights in the dark, etc.) can still be anything). Seeing the BG as not-yet-the-latter-day-BG was interesting to see. They're emotional, they're uncontrolled, they're far less stoic overall than they are as they appear in Hereitcs and Chapterhouse. It's serving as the main reminder that they're 15,000 years out of time.

[@SacredForest347]

Isn't Spice consumption the eventual main cause of prescient abilities, along with the breeding program and specialized training?? Love your take, Quinn!! ❤️

[@LiraeNoir]

It's also the drive, as cultures and from people in power, t o replace what was lost in the Jyhad. And 10 millennia of drive can do a lot of things to a specie, that's mostly the age of civilization on Earth today.

[@justinallen2408]

Jihad

[@jasonwidegren3211]

You’re my go-to person for sci fi now. Amazing content!

[@PartiesInTheAfterlife]

Thank you for mentioning the not needed bar scene.

[@racheltorres668]

I trust your analysis, Quinn. Everything I haven't learned about Dune, Foundation, 3 Body, etc. that I haven't read and studied myself, I've learned watching your videos for years. Thank you

[@Unionleto]

@Quinn's Ideas : "The costumes and CGI are outdated, but even so, the Dune miniseries is the most faithful to the book and does the best job of portraying Paul as a tragic character. Chani is the most likable and lovable version among all adaptations. You should give the miniseries another chance and then create a series of KZbin videos about it... you owe it to Dune."

[@jamesgornall5731]

Also, Ian McNiece plays such a great Baron.

[@AugustRose]

I am so happy you did this. I've been watching your Dune videos for years.

[@sammalla5238]

I mean, atleast it has us talking, speculate and theory craft on some of those references and it's implication in the rest of the season going forward 8/10 Will definitely tune in next week

[@SD80]

When it comes to DUNE I always need to hear what Quinn is talking about. Excellent content!

[@NerdimusPrimeX]

The bar scene had a seemingly suble sub plot. The bartender had the eyes of Ibad and the weapon master defintely has an alternate motive.

[@agentsculder2451]

I only think it was mentioned once, but the weapons master is an Atreides.

[@barryween4478]

@@agentsculder2451 The bartender with Fremen eyes called him Atreides.

[@The_Reality_Filter]

Now break out the neon glow sticks and banging techno we've got a generic club scene to film...PURE FRANK HERBERT STYLE

[@NerdimusPrimeX]

Right, remember the Brian Herbert works are more standard scifi where the actual Dune Saga is a masterwork.

[@hassanalkhalaf1115]

Probably how the next generation of Atreides is created

[@FlameForgedSoul]

A more detailed, thorough, insightful and overall enjoyable review of the _first episode_ than FT's 5 minute review of the first _four_ episodes. Thank you.

[@spudthepug]

…there’s only been 1 episode.

[@drabglg3930]

I love your voice! This was so beautifully read and spoken! Thank you!

[@LYANHEART]

Great stuff as always Sir Quinn

[@stonedfinn3649]

The Blue Eyes encapsulated in a worms mouth, the dark and ominous voice. I instantly thought it was Leto II.

[@Okkara-q3b]

In Frank Herbert's Dune saga, the technocrats of planet Ix make a significant rise to power and contribute greatly to the technology of the Duniverse. With Denis Villeneuve's adaptation on its way, I've been exploring the characters, organizations and elements that make up this fascinating universe. It is expected that Ixians would not give up their technological superiority and benefits that come from it. The dominance of the Space Guild due to an exaggerated decision to ban even computers, not only AIs, was likely to cause great dissatisfaction. I'd expect a black market to be created to allow computer assisted space travel and independence from the Space Guild. All would work under great risk, off course. It would be great to have a TV series explorer the many facets of the Dune universe. I love this idea so much! The Ixians are such a cool part of the Dune universe, and you’re totally right about their role in pushing tech boundaries, even with the Butlerian Jihad’s strict rules. The idea of a black market for computer-assisted space travel is amazing-like, how long could the Space Guild really keep total control? It makes so much sense that people would risk it to get around the Guild’s monopoly. A TV show about Ix’s secret labs and shady deals for forbidden tech would be awesome! Just think about the tension between the Guild and the Ixians and the big moral questions around tech that could change the Imperium’s power. Quinn... Thanks for sharing this awesome thought-here’s hoping we get more Dune on screen soon!

[@allenhowell5420]

Something is definitely very strange and yet very fascinating about Travis Fimmel's character Desmond Hart, but I have a different theory. We saw the Emperor watch the video footage of the sandworm attack where Hart basically waits to be consumed. Can anyone really survive that? I agree that no, he DIDN'T survive... but he could be replaced. It's way too fast for a Ghola to be grown, but Hart could be a Tleilaxu face dancer. I don't think he used Ixian technology when the Tlielaxu know so much about exotic poisons that could make flesh burn. It's known from the lore that Bene Gesserit Reverend Mothers can detect a face dancer (shapeshifters) by it's pheromones, but what if this is the first face dancer they have encountered? They are mentioned in Children of Dune, but when did they first appear? It would be interesting to see HOW Reverend Mother's learn how to be able to detect them.

[@Jack_Simpson]

Desmond unlocked the sharingan on Dune and hit Pruitt with the Amaterasu without breaking lore, very nice.

[@spudthepug]

Maybe he’s pyrokinetic. Those powers were a part of the Jihad.

[@graphite2786]

Excellent recap Quinn, i really liked your view and theories on the story line. I would have NEVER in my wildest dreams, thought that one day we would see a television adaptation of the Dune Universe; one that was actually very, very, good!

[@mattmmilli8287]

god emperor mentioned 🐛 🙇‍♂️ I hope we get that movie, would be so fun. They need McAvoy back as him 😅

[@professorerudite]

YES

[@Daud-ix4tm]

​@@professoreruditehe would still be great as the fully formed Sand worm

[@joaovictorkelima2551]

My ultimate dream is for Aidan Gallagher to play Leto II

[@johnhall774]

I agree but also like Jason Mamoa going full emo would be so weird.

[@joew9690]

@@johnhall774 We Will see How Danny Mascrate MEssaiah of Dune.

[@CCCoolati]

Quinn, your channel rocks. That is all. Thanks for make this video so fast. You are my sci-fi go to. Never disappoints.

[@StevenOsborne-x6c]

Nice to see you back. I miss the GoT years….

[@MrGlenbw]

My heart broke when you mention GoT; I feel backstabbed by Season 8 and there's no way I'm coming back to Westeros, if ever.

[@TheKarchitect]

This was such a great analysis. Love it! It’s always difficult to explain the Golden Path to the new comers. I’m gonna send them this video from here on out.

[@daniellaszlo1930]

Hope you do a breakdown for every episode!

[@JosephAAmara]

Thanks Quinn! Your content is the Melange that puts all other drugs to shame!

[@StevenOsborne-x6c]

Hey Quinn, what is your friends channel called? The gentleman who wears shades and talks about Asoiaf? My og account was lost and I can’t find it😅

[@S.D._777_]

David Lightbringer, I think. He's always wearing shades.

[@rinehardt6837]

This show was one of the only thing that could make me re-up Max subscription. After doing just the first little bit of your review I turned it off and then went and watched episode one and then came back I loved it. And I think of the wealth of knowledge that I've gained about the Dune universe listening to your channel. I was not a step at all.😊

[@pheniox44]

Despite lots of people on complaining Reddit, I actually really liked this and super excited to see this through

[@kwasiaddae4646]

I think the way the guild navigator says "Richese" in Dune(1984) is the best. "Many machines on IX. New Machines. Better than those on Richese."

[@vlaraa]

To be honest I hard about the show hours before the first episode and after hearing it was based on a Brian Herbert novel my expectations were a tad low, but just wow, even in just this one episode my expectations were totally shattered. Now I will be following this show religiously. In just the first episode there were so many jaw dropping moments that I have high hopes for what is to come.

[@boat1280]

I was really pleasantly surprised as someone who hates Brian’s Dune stuff. I do think he genuinely loves his father’s work, even if he has failed at continuing it imo. But it’s not a crime to be a poorer writer than Frank Herbert so I wanted to give this a chance and so far I’m glad I did I feel like that love of the universe really shines through in this. I feel like it’s being made with respect, whether it’s good or not, and that counts for something for me.

[@mikehall7189]

Hart seemed to be trying to fight some sort of programming when Pruwett Richese was dying,just like Duncan Ghola did successfully, eventually. This adds more weight and credence to the theory of Hart being a Ghola.

[@danielhavens8819]

so far the only thing that bothers me is a lack of subtlety and subtext in the dialog. most of the time characters are just saying very obvious stuff, things other characters should already know, exactly how they feel about the situation, etc. Dune should be as subtle as it gets, nobody ever gives away their true thoughts. but they might just be being a bit more heavy handed for the pilot, to get things set up. other than that I really like the direction they're going in, especially with the visual aspects. if they tighten up the writing it could be great but if it stays like this or gets worse it could fall apart imo

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

Agreed. I fear it will be the later and fall apart, but I'm gonna give it a chance for sure

[@NakulKrishna]

Yeah, they just can’t bring the gravitas that Denis’ vision brings. I expected more but the actors don’t have the weight they should and aren’t interesting enough to feel invested in or even remember, Travis is probably the best in terms of that mysterious aspect and even in his delivery. Valia for me is a very weak protagonist? Not sure who is the main character of this show but it all seems like they aren’t as clear as Denis is with what he’s trying to show. Lore guys might be digging it more but I see a lack of quality overall that I can’t ignore.

[@SuperStella1111]

I love this channel so much. Quinn, thank you so much!! :)

[@Kevin-hq5ne]

I like the idea that the seeking machines would be sentient and prescient hunter seekers that self replicate and just kill off all humans.

[@spudthepug]

Sounds like a gray goo scenario.

[@alanpennie8013]

I don't like it at all, but Quinn has convinced me that this was what Frank had in mind.

[@bender7889]

I haven’t watched your channel in a while. I forgot how much you know about Dune. I will be watching all of your reviews.

[@Izib954]

14:17 - Whoa whoa whoa... I thought the weirding way was a gun with a killer sound system? 🙃

[@cacogenicist]

It waa nice to see Gene Wolfe'a _Book of the New Sun_ up on your bookshelf. Now _that's_ a story full of puzzles and mysteries, that one could make videos about for a very long time. Extremely deep stuff, and probably the greatest work of American speculative fiction.

[@sdpearshaped831]

Are they really calling the Butlerian Jihad the Machine Wars??

[@yllare]

coz western media can't bear to say the word "jihad" hahahaha

[@HermanaSilencio]

The Beast Machine War Cybertron Transformers Electric Boogaloo 2 the ascension of kwisatz haderach prime.

[@gamewh0re]

@@yllare more like the muslims cant hear the western media say it without blowing someone to bits. scuff

[@TheSuperDuperLS]

Yeah, for the same reason why they omitted the word 'Jihad' from the movies.

[@Justanotherconsumer]

Butlerian Struggle would have been a better way to handle it. That’s all jihad means.

[@Aanthanur]

this video made me start watching Dune prophecy and its absolutely amazingly mindblowingly good.

[@tenorenstrom]

This KZbin video is indeed good! The show is sadly terrible. I’m afraid it will sully Dune in normal people’s minds.

[@HoLeeFoc]

As far as prescience, Duke Richese says to the emperor the spacing guild navigator's mantra "the spice must flow" which means that the guild was established (founded by Norma Cenva) and consuming mass quantities to evolve into third stage navigators. The Bene Gesserit would also have availability and access of spice to develop "the seeing eye" and experience the matrilineal ancestral memories.

[@jbryson1]

I'm glad for this video, I think it'll help when I watch the next episodes. It give me good context

[@davidlericain]

Just finished watching Dune 2, just to find this video in my feed. haha

[@theWolfPooh_Ken]

Great review and my favorite Dune youtube channel - Your passion and deep understanding of the Dune universe is clearly on display. I do agree, there is probably a hand behind Desmond Hart"s role in this series. In true Dune form, a plot within a plot within a plot. Having read all of the original Frank and subsequent Brian Herbert books, my initial impressions of episode 1 was not as optimistic nor enjoyable as your experience. I absolutely enjoyed Denis's and David Lynch's on screen adaptions, but there's something "stylistically" different (and not to my favor thus far). The pacing seems to be moving (too) fast, the characters seem closer to caricatures and the show seems to be relying on explicit dialogue rather than mood/scene/story development for its character development. Perhaps this is just EP1 laying out the foundation for less familiar fans, but we'll see what's to come for the season.

[@JohnAquariusPodcast]

Im sorry the fact that the Navigating guild's are not in Both the Movie and the series bugs the heck out of me. They are the key connection to space travel.

[@mattgilbert7347]

Agreed! I love the Guild Navigators

[@Yarblocosifilitico]

@@SPIKESPIEGEL1969 if so, I guess that answers my question: 'will he adapt God Emperor?' xD

[@notgonnapay]

I thought Denis’ navigators were the guys with the big orange helmets.

[@JohnAquariusPodcast]

@@SPIKESPIEGEL1969 that's a bad excuse the whole Dune universe is weird

[@Scimarad]

I wasn't really into this for a good chunk of the episode but It had grown on me a lot by the end. Definitely looking forward to the next episode.

[@bshr1nk3yk1d]

I loved this episode it’s a great sign that they really want to get into the lore

[@agnescas3402]

Your best video ever , the love and interest you have in this universeis contagious

[@JezzaBondiBeach]

‪Great first episode. Really looking forward to seeing where this is going 🐛 🏄🏼‍♂️ ‬

[@Hum0ng0us]

As this video is starting, I'd like to say that I really enjoyed this episode and am looking forward to this series.

[@Duneuniverse]

lowkey interesting how the bar tender had those crazy blue eyes which means shes a fremen, I've never heard of a fremen that got out of arrkis and lived on the emperor planet. great show, wish we had a tv show on how arrkis was made, I'm so happy we got this tv show, I'm a great fan of dune. we need another show just on arrkis

[@CCCoolati]

I think that just means she’s addicted to spice. There are plenty of people that aren’t firemen addicted to spice.

[@spudthepug]

Blue eyes just means heavy spice consumption. Reverend mothers end up with them after enduring The Agony.