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[@mintybadger6905]

My kid came out as non-binary last week - as they were nervously trying to explain their situation, all I could think of were these Insane Parents and I realized that I had one chance to respond the right way the first time. I thanked them for telling me and said I had their back, no matter what. My poor kid had been worried sick that I would freak out and instead, they got a boring Hallmark moment.

[@SewardWriter]

You're a good parent, my dude. 💖

[@AIHumanEquality]

Makes me wonder why they're scared to tell you to begin with though.

[@KaityKat117]

boring hallmark moment >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unhinged religious rant

[@CorwinFound]

My 15 year old recently came out officially as asexual. In the car. My son: I told my friends I'm asexual. Me: Ah. How did they handle it? My son: Everyone was cool about it. Me: That's good. ---End of conversation.--- Not every coming out is even worthy of a Hallmark card. Lol As a little person asexual had been part of my list of orientations when discussing such things and he'd brought up the possibility in the past. So it wasn't a big shock and he knew I'd be supportive. I'd love for every coming out to be this non-event. Even with hyper supportive parents (like yourself), kids and youth see their friends getting crap from their families and the media is so filled with horror stories of horrible parents that it's not unreasonable for any kid to be fearful. Congrats on your NB bean and how well you responded!

[@AIHumanEquality]

@@Wendigoof474 I'm curious what makes someone nervous in that situation is all I was saying.

[@ookamiblade6318]

When ever I hear a parent say they were ‘suddenly’ lgbtq+ I’m reminded of asking my mom if there were any signs I might be gender non conforming as a child and she replied ‘no’ then I went to my bookshelf of childhood favorites and 80% of them involved crossdressing.

[@intercat4907]

Apparently the solution for a clue like that one is to ban books. Yeah, that's gonna work ... but at least you know they did notice.

[@angustheterrible3149]

Honestly, it just goes to show how parents only want to see themselves and their ideas mirrored in their children, rather than seeing them for who they are. The idea that people suddenly become gay is absurd. They always were gay- parents just assume they're straight and never consider the possibility of anything else. Which, again, goes to show how they only look to see their own idea of who their child is mirrored back at them, rather than who their children are. Glad you have found yourself, hope you are doing well :)

[@LilChuunosuke]

My parents were stunned and horrified to find out I was gay. I was obsessed with Prince, David Bowie, and Michael Jackson when I was like 5 years old specifically because they didn't fit the societal standards of how men are supposed to look, sound, and behave. I was drawn to them specifically because they deviated from gender norms! I was also very clearly obsessed with Shego from Kim Possible. 😂 I really wasnt subtle about my gender or romantic attractions as a kid, but they acted like it didnt exist until I started hanging out with gay people

[@ww3196]

Parents just assume their kids are "naturally" cishet because that's "natural" or the expected norm. They force these identities onto their kids from day one because they think they know their kids better than they know themselves. So when their kid finally has the understanding and language to express their identity to their parents, the parents get upset that the identity they put onto their kid was not the child's identity. Parents assume who their kids are, believe their assumptions are right, then force these assumptions onto their kids. And yes, I know not all parents, I am only talking about the r/insaneparents variety - abusive, treats their kids like property that must be controlled and do exactly as they're told, thinks their kids are just miniature versions of themselves, etc., etc.

[@ww3196]

​@@angustheterrible3149EXACTLY!! I just typed a similar comment but you phrased it a lot better lol

[@zwergnase1989]

When I came out as lesbian, my grandma (80) exclaimed: "Now we have a gay..." *points at cousin "...and a lesbian. Now we only need one of these bisexuals and we have a whole set of the LGB!" I felt like a shiny Pokemon and didn't have the heart to tell her that there's more to the set. Baby steps. 😂

[@Trash_panda_arts]

That's so adorable omg😭

[@tacticallemon7518]

there’s a joke here about LG TV’s, but i can’t find it

[@Virtualblueart]

I never met your Grandma and I still love her and her sense of humor. What a great old girl.

[@pencil_chewer]

Adopt me and yall get LGT LMAO

[@addysart5027]

Adopt me and get the B

[@NightItselfSince0000]

I hate when parents are like "I put a roof over your head, I buy you food, I buy you clothes, blah blah blah" like yes that if what you are legally required to do as a parent, and what you chose to sign up for when you had a kid. I didn't ask to be here. I am simply a consequence of your actions that you have to pay for.

[@jasperjazzie]

yeah, like anything less and you aren't a parent lmao. i hate how low the bar is for parents, like a lot of people think as long as you aren't abusive that means you're a good parent, or even if you _are_ abusive it's still fine somehow as long as your kids aren't dying. we really need to raise the standards of what it means to be a parent

[@Virtualblueart]

@@jasperjazzie I may be a bit weird in thinking this, but after hearing how out of their depth my parents were I always thought we should make people take a "Child care" exam. Maybe even with a little diploma or plaque. Nothing too prohibitive, but a free but mandatory course you have to complete to learn the important ins and outs of child caring and what you are getting yourself into. Or just drop the weird prudishness about puberty and have it as part of the education system along with actual sex ed. I think it would improve so many peoples lives.

[@the1-upclub98]

Jesus: Love thy neighbor. "Christian" moms: But what if my son's gay? Jesus: Did I stutter?

[@OneEyeShadow]

"Christian" moms: Well I'm not gonna listen to some brown carpenter. Shave your beard and get a haircut.

[@minestar2247]

@@OneEyeShadow oh my god, this is unironically something they'd do, in what world do we live in

[@bretsheeley4034]

Jesus: Love thy neighbor. "Christian" moms: I'm not going to listen to some dirty Arab. I only follow the word of Jesus Our Savior! Jesus: Oh for my sake.

[@danthealien]

@@bretsheeley4034”Oh for my sake” 😂

[@nesamdoom]

@@minestar2247 Jesus was the furst Merican. And he was the whitest person to ever live.

[@16poetisa]

"Not understanding" postpartum depression is awfully close to "if I haven't experienced it then it can't be real". Believe me, if I could *choose* to stop being depressed and anxious, I would do it in a heartbeat.

[@intercat4907]

Hang in there - you are valuable and valued.

[@lynnalu]

I'd LOVE to stop being stuck in my bed with ADHD overload paralysis. I'd LOVE to have energy and get things done, to cook and clean like "normal" people. I'd LOVE to spend a day not crying, being stressed or overwhelmed, or feeling guilty or useless. Yes, let me just turn this off, since you don't understand it...

[@lisaillust27]

​@lynnalu I can relate ❤ I can't tell you it's gonna get better because that would be a lie. But what I can tell you is to hang in there! I know that sometimes you feel like you don't even have the power over your own life or actions, but if you're not going to try and pick yourself up, next time you fall, there might not be anyone there to pick you up but yourself. so do your best! I'm rooting for you 💜

[@LRM12o8]

It's literally like not understanding why people get colds. _"oh my god, having a cold sucks so bad, why do people decide to get a cold"_ They _literally_ told her that it's a chemical imbalance in the brain that gets triggered by the stresses of child birth. How much closer to a visible disease does depression have to get for those people to understand that mental illnesses aren't choices, they're literal illnesses?! 🤦

[@nathryl03]

@@LRM12o8 You were joking about not understanding why people get colds, but unfortunately those people exist too. I once had a manager tell me that she didn't understand people who got sick, because she never did. We'd just had 3 people call in sick because they had the flu and she couldn't understand how anybody could ever be so sick that they couldn't come to work.

[@nekotori_v_]

Some people thing respect means, treating someone like a person, some people think respect means, treating someone like an authority figure. Those parents say "If you don't respect me I will not respect you" and mean "If you don't treat me like an authority I will not treat you as a person".

[@setster007]

And those are the sorts of authority that are some of the few authorities I struggle with. Because I do not respect a person until they earn it, and so, they treat me poorly from the get go, and they lose any chance of earning my obedience. I will happily treat an authority figure as such if I respect them. And I have never met an authority figure who I liked but didn't respect. (It helps that I'm 16. Keeps me naive enough, not having been through a lot.)

[@amandahugenkiss2310]

I always suspected that there are multiple levels of respect. Like there’s the respect that a decent person has for everyone, and then there’s the respect that you have for someone who is really skilled and/or a really good person.

[@Gormathius]

Respect is a spectrum, and I find pretty consistently that the people demanding to be treated with the higher end of it have the hardest time treating anyone else with the lower end. Not just parents or actual authority figures either; it can be just about anyone.

[@unknowngod8221]

@@Gormathius yeah agree

[@nobody.of.importance]

oh my god, I thought I was the only one that has difficulty typing "thing" when they meant "think" and visa versa. I AM NO LONGER ALONE! (This is meant to be teasing, mind you, not actually harping on ya for a typo. I legit do the same thing ALL THE TIME.)

[@gracen8010]

My mom was one of the parents that called the cops on me over everything. Eventually I got put on probation and then she started telling my probation officer every single thing I did that pissed her off, from getting a bad grade on an assignment to rolling my eyes. My PO quickly figured out that she was just trying to get someone else to do the parenting for her and got me out of the house and into a group home, at which point my mom was suddenly confused as to why the courts were “interfering” with her “parenting”. As it turns out, trying to use the cops to scare your kids straight when they haven’t actually done anything illegal doesn’t usually work out in your favor.

[@illadiel6049]

"You're already perfect the way you are" "So, it's cool I'm bi?" "No! Not like that!"

[@asackboyplush6508]

I know there ain't a way they'll see this, but from one bi to another, I hope you find some place else, you deserve better.

[@John_Weiss]

Yep, that is how they act, isn't it?

[@illadiel6049]

@@asackboyplush6508 I was just sympathizing with the op being subjected to that insane religious screed. My situation is totally fine 😊, but thanks for the fellow-feeling!

[@shreyaspamaraju262]

Bro made a whole DnD campaign 💀

[@Amethystar]

"You're perfect... as long as you fit this specific image of you I have in my head and my this arbitrary list of standards I've set before you."

[@thedevilsadvocate788]

I love these gay camp stories. "Oh sure, just send me to a camp where there is like... 15-16 potential partners I can bond with."

[@lord_xylozdoomsday959]

Gaycation outdoor dating site

[@saintdude6032]

dating sim

[@creeperchan8504]

Gay camp

[@Depressedsimpofthevoid]

Shh. We don't want them finding the truth out.

[@hmnhntr]

Similarly, the old "send them to an all x school" if they thought their kid was being too sexual. You're anti-gay, but you're going to send someone into an environment with only people of the same gender right as they're beginning to discover and explore their sexuality? Ok buddy.

[@Chespingod]

19:47 “Kids shouldn’t be able to learn about lgbtq.” So we shouldn’t teach them about accepting those who are different than the “normals”

[@Ace_AnimationsVR]

If that's the case, they shouldn't learn about straight people either. But they don't want to shelter their kids that much, just enough to try to prevent their child from not becoming a carbon copy of them.

[@Chespingod]

@@Ace_AnimationsVR yeah, I agree.

[@CandiedStyled]

They always say that "learning about them will make the kids gay!" Meanwhile we learn about horrific people in history like H!tler, but no one thinks they would try to do things like that 🤷

[@Virtualblueart]

As someone on the autism spectrum it often files that neurotypical people are really weird about people with differences. It's sad this decades old trend of "Hush we don't talk about the strange people" is still the base situation. I wish it weren't. It's not like your choose your brain structure (and resulting sexual tendencies) yourself, it's just what it is.

[@Virtualblueart]

@@CandiedStyled (Looks around at all of the recent dictators and one certain dictator wannabe) Maaaaybe we also went the wrong way about teaching about those bad guys? (Joke) But seriously, I wish we concentrated more on mental health, sexuality (or even health in general) from an early age to help out anyone with differences or downright problems to get them acceptance (or assistance) early. I would have loved for my autism to be discovered early instead of many decades later now it's far harder to get to grips with for me.

[@midnight8341]

About the "Oh, mammals instincts are just PERFECT when it comes to caring for their babies, so humans just need to trust that EVERYTHING they do is just completely right!" stuff at ~36:00... I am currently lying in bed with my 4yo cat next to me. She's from the first and only litter of my boyfriends moms cat and I was there when she was born. Her mother instinctively knew that she had to bite into the amniotic sac and to get rid of it and the mucus + placenta for the kittens to breath. And that was basically it. She was unable to pick up and relocate the kittens if there was even a 1cm step for her to drag them over; when we relocated them to the clean, warm birthing box we built, she ignored their cries for their mother and sat alone in the blood-stained, messed up scratching box she birthed them in until we threw the damn thing out alltogether. We had to lure her to her babies with treats just so that she would stay with them long enough for them to nurse and keep them warm. She wouldn't nudge them to her teats if they couldn't find them on their own. She wouldn't lick their bellies after they were done nursing to help their digestion. There were 5 kittens in that litter. My cat has a single brother. Her other brother didn't make it through his first night and her two sisters didn't survive their first two days on earth because their mother wouldn't care for them properly and ignored them every chance she got. She and her brother only survived because they were the largest two of their litter and even for them it was a close call during times. Their mother also wouldn't play properly with them, sometimes we had to stay and watch out because she was hunting them more than playing with them. They even tought themselves to use a litter box. They basically only had each other when growing up, so they had no one to learn from that humans were nice. I took an entire week of vacation just to sit next to them on the floor and play with them (they were so young that they thought my hand was its own entity, they never even realized how large I was compared to them. I was more a piece of furniture with two friends attached). It took me just two days for them to fall asleep in my lap and I have to say that I cried when it happened. And now every time I hear these moms rambling on about how a mothers instincts are always right and how a mother can do no wrong, because tHeY jUsT fEeL wHaT's RiGhT... all it takes for me is one long look at my little grey cuddle bug next to me to absolutely disdain them and their hubris.

[@crowdemon_archives]

Mother instincts exist in fish too! Except, uh... Guppies. Will. Eat. Their. Children. 🙃 (only animal I've observed doing a fine job mothering had been literal hens but they're silkies and silkies tend to be very motherly compared to every other chicken I had lol)

[@amandahugenkiss2310]

It’s those parents who are nervous that they might end up being bad parents that are the ones who end up being good parents

[@gasterthemaster6490]

I have a cousin that told me that one of their lesbian friends was sent to therapy to "be straight"... And the person she was sent to was pansexual. *mission failed successfully.*

[@LoremIpsum-dp1li]

It's like that idea in one of Cliccy's earlier videos where either he or a Reddit commenter talks about a camp that is meant to seem like a "pray the gay away" camp but it's actually run by a bunch of queer people and they let all the queer kids experiment and figure out their sexuality and identity.

[@AIHumanEquality]

LGBTQ+ people individually are minorities but together we actually outnumber cis straight people by quite a bit.

[@thenexus8384]

How I imagine it went Therapist: "so tell me, why are you here, Ma'am?" Cousin's lesbian friend: "to be straight" Therapist: "well you've been sent to the wrong person and I'm not letting you be sent to anyone else"

[@minestar2247]

Somehow, jobs that require deep knowlege about queerness is taken by queer people, who would have thonk it

[@juanemarek]

How is humanity the dominant species on earth.

[@ErisIsAnAbomination]

That “advice” about beating your kid in the shower would not only traumatize your child, but likely cause them to develop a severe phobia of showering. My parents were never physically abusive but were emotionally immature, and would scream at me every time we went to the movies because I’d cry (I’m autistic and have pretty bad sensory issues with loud sounds). This led to me being afraid of going to the theater, which persists in my adulthood.

[@sharonoddlyenough]

Aw, if I were there I'd offer concert earplugs and bring a box of tissues

[@AIHumanEquality]

I'm not autistic and still bothered by how loud the theatres are. It's perfectly normal. Not everyone enjoys the same things.

[@LoraLoibu]

@@AIHumanEquality I'm also autistic and bothered by really loud sound, so theatres aren't _the best_ experience for me. I only go watch movies I care about with friends

[@naolucillerandom5280]

​@@LoraLoibu I don't think I'm autistic, but no frequent visits to the theater for me either, it really is too loud.

[@feuerling]

​@@naolucillerandom5280 earplugs are awesome for the cinema. Different types and sizes block out different amounts of sound.

[@trishapellis]

17:12 transphobic mother has no clue that "trans" and "bisexual" are very, *very* different things. Also, Click, gotta recommend you for reading all of that and still actually reading 'ceucified' as it's written with the dyslexia and all. Even for non-dyslexic people this drivel is impossible to read.

[@dragonshadow4145]

I think you meant commend, not recommend, btw

[@UndercoverGCHACPSagent2177]

Fallen flesh club sounds like a dope sandwich

[@Im_CommanderBlackout]

if you really, really, really think about it... Is bisexual trans? stupid thoughts are fun to think about

[@doggo-bn4vg]

13:42 as somone who genuinely struggles with being suicidal, seeing people use it as a threat is terrible. suicide is a depressing answer for when you truly believe that life is no longer worth living. its a last resort that you try as hard as you can to avoid. using it as a threat is an insult to people who are actually struggling with it, and i hope this person learns that.

[@BigDictator5335]

I hope things get better for you.

[@Ashlynn.r]

Please don't do that if you don't have family to support you just know that I support you and want you to live ❤️

[@TheGleeb]

Im in a similar situation and all I can do is hope that you find peace of mind, I strugglw with it myself but at the end of the day, I do believe that things will get better

[@Sophia-go3cs]

Me too

[@lyn6768]

Advice: If you don't know how your family will react to you coming out, don't tell them until 1; you're financially stable, and 2; not living in their home. I've been incredibly blessed by supportive and accepting family. No one needed any convincing or time to "adjust", and the only homophobic auntie got basically disowned from the entire family. It breaks my heart seeing my fellow queers and trans friends getting kicked out of their homes because their parents just don't accept them.

[@foxliasgriffinYT]

yes yes

[@salmonrunsalmon]

If my son is LGBTQ+ I wouldn't care, I would support him every step of the way!

[@foxliasgriffinYT]

@@salmonrunsalmon if i had a child, which i won't, i would do my best to teach them how to be independant and how to live in a shitty ass society

[@AIHumanEquality]

If you have to fear coming out to your parents you should leave ASAP without coming out to them because you're in a toxic home. If you don't feel comfortable coming out to your family it means you don't have a trusting relationship which by definition means you don't have good parents. Edit: Some of you seem to need clarification so ASAP = As soon as possible, which doesn't mean immediately. It means as soon as you're able to/have the means to.

[@GruulAnarch]

Also, make sure that there isn't any way that they could find out. My parents went through my phone, found out I'm trans WAY before I was ready, and now I'm in therapy.

[@whitebaneberry]

My existence as an intersex person makes those uber-Christian, "only two genders made by God," people either shut down or absolutely go rabid. I think it's hilarious. Religiously abusive parents especially make my blood boil.

[@Roadent1241]

Makes me wonder if God then is male some days, female other days and whatever the heck other days and that determines What's born that day. What sort of image is that? What about the disabled babies like me? XD if that's his image why am I the odd one out of like all 5 hearing schools I attended? XD

[@Hyper_Fox06]

I'm sorry you had to go through that. Unfortunately in the last 20 years there's been an organized forced push by certain Christian denominations coordinated with the GOP to push them to the hard right. It was planned and coordinated, in the 1980s the "moral majority" (complete opposite of their true motives) began pushing church beliefs overarching secular law. they're the very same southern groups that were pro school segregation, that message was extremely unpopular and lost them a lot of members/voters their think tanks decided to use a manipulative subject to dupe voters they decided on the right to life anti abortion as their emotional voter trap using psychological manipulation and propaganda. It created a zealot group of right wing extremists that bombed clinics and assassinations of family planning doctors. It worked they overturned Roe V. Wade with the basis by Aleto from a document from a 16th century Witch hunter" now they're back to attacking the LGBTQ community as their manipulative emotional lie to get the support of hatemongers and old bigoted people (oversimplified here). They're what should be an illegal group of theocratic fascists using religion to take political power in direct contradiction of the separation of church and state. All of it is manipulation, lies, and grifting to seize power to force us to follow their views and personal beliefs. It's BS. Hope you are safe and happy, screw those people

[@A2n7tA]

Well, if God created mankind in his "image" and then used part of Adam to create Eve, would that not mean that God is intersex? And if one of the seperated halfs views itself as "male" and the other "female", would that not mean that God is also non-binary? So really, any intersex or non-binary person would be closer to God than any of the uber-Christians who make claims about "Gods will".

[@rebny7801]

As a former christian I struggled a lot with that "you are perfect just the way God made you!" so is it perfect to have genetical diseases? to be born with schizophrenia? or without hands? Did God want these people to be like that?

[@thorstenschons7206]

Also, very odd is it is used as an argument against lgbtq+. Even though you can fully interpret it as lgbtq+ is totally okay. God made me a non binary pansexual mess, so I am that mess ( mess mostly because of other things like adhd and very poor eyesight)

[@jeremysmith3701]

Used to teach at a community college, I'd get calls and emails from parents wanting to know about their children's grades and I'd have to say that I can't disclose that information to anyone but the student themselves. The usual response I got was 'but I pay for the classes', as if that matters. They tried every trick and threat in the world to no avail because legally I was bound and couldn't disclose it, even had one or two 'bet if I come down there you'll give it to me' type implied threats. Out of everyone that ran their mouth about doing something, only one ever attempted to go over my head to a more senior person and they were told exactly the same thing... the college cannot legally release that information.

[@dorykrysz]

*The on who sent that child warrior picture was my last straw, I have to comment about this.* In the times of the christian wars, after the 4th wave of the war (1202-1204) where the christian soldiers took over Konstantin. They thought it would be a good idea to *send CHILDREN into war* for the next wave. *6-10 year old KIDS* because "they are pure while adults are sinners so God will help them on the battle field". This was in *1212* . *APPROXIMATELY 40-60 THOUSAND CHILDREN DIED.* MOST DIDN'T EVEN MAKE IT TO THE ACTUAL BATTLE AND JUST DIED ALONG THE WAY. So if I get any christian ever in my face or through text or through call or through anything talk about CHILDREN being WEAPONIZED. I will show them a side of me that even I don't fully know. And it will *not* be a pretty one.

[@amandahugenkiss2310]

Not to mention child soldiers are not only immoral, but impractical as well. They’re weaker and less able to fight than adults.

[@lina9535]

I just started laughing at the "it's ok to mutilate your kid if you call the kid trans first". Does that mean every circumsised baby is trans?

[@WishGender]

Nah because they didn't call the kid trans they're just admitting they mutilate their kids

[@cryochick9044]

The truth is "it's okay if you say it makes your kid normal" Reminder that many red states are making it required by law to do 'corrective' surgery to intersex births

[@tealkerberus748]

well technically yeah. Every embryo starts out morphologically female. Some of them then change to being morphologically male. Therefore, ever person who is morphologically male has transitioned from being morphologically female. That doesn't make cutting bits off them without their consent or an urgent medical need okay, though.

[@lina9535]

I recall that morph thing (big words at 1am doesn't compute with me lol) from biology in school. We had a section about that, and whatever that fancy term is for people who are born with both (partially or fully, internally or externally), I want to say hermaphrodite but at this early hour I'm most likely confusing things.

[@BlueTressym]

@@lina9535 the term hermaphrodite used to be common but I think most people would just say intersex.

[@_ksm0922]

My mom always threatened to send me to live with my dad as a ‘punishment’ when I did back things. She spent my entire life from age 5 trying to make us terrified of him, so she thought it was a threat. Granted I always hoped she would. When I was a teenager and said I wanted to go live with him, she said “absolutely not. He doesn’t want you and you’re not allowed to make that decision.” Had I know that I legally COULD in fact make that decision, I would have gone with it. It wasn’t until I was an adult that I started talking with my dad more. Turns out that he was constantly trying to fight with my mom to get visitation of us and even trying to get custody several times. But she refused to give in cause she just wanted child support (her alcohol money) and to spite him. My dad would have absolutely taken me in had I been able to reach out to him and talk to him. The man she told me and my sister would kidnap us and hurt us and didn’t actually want us… he was behind the scenes the entire time trying to get help for us. But CPS and the court system refused to listen and she refused to budge.

[@elknothin3403]

had a similar situation with my parents. Whenever i talked with my dad she would always assume he was talking bad about her when it was the exact opposite and him telling me to respect and not cause trouble for her. When i got to college she forbid me from speaking to him or else she wouldn’t help me pay for my tuition and dorm. Now hes gone and shes acting like that never happened

[@CadenceCarter-qx8kf]

I am so, so very sorry for everything that you went through. I hope that your life is better now. The American justice system can just be so messed up.

[@stuff897]

Omg i can hardly believe that a mother would do that to her child

[@swedishwildlife916]

Mothers like that shoud be a test subject for that unit in the Imperial Japans army that did experiments so horrifying that nazi germanys exsperiments lookt humane

[@maestrofeli4259]

​@@stuff897it is extremely common :(

[@waffles3629]

"I choose Satan!" I love how immediately you said that. 😂

[@amandahugenkiss2310]

For “Christian” conservative nuts, Satan is this nerdy kind person who loves D&D, cares for the poor and accepts everyone for who they are. Their “Satan” has more in common with Christ than the actual biblical Satan.

[@curiousnerdkitteh]

"Children belongs in the coal mines, not with rainbows!" 😂 Click is so funny and great with injecting satire and social commentary into his reactions lol.

[@frogoftheweek3358]

Who kicks a 14 y/o out? Considering how "safe" the outside world is nowadays, what lesson was the mother planning to teach her daughter??

[@victory8928]

Less a lesson and more coercion to force the daughter to ‘become straight’. These parents only want to take their children back in once they behave. It is frightening similar to what cults and religious groups like JWs do and it is all about control and manipulation. By isolating someone from social support and in this case financial security they hope to break the person they outcast to make them more obedient. Then they make their actions seem fine by talking about how evil/devilish that thing the outcast did is and how they are now saved or whatnot.

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

That she shouldn't expect a parent to care? I dunno bruh she cray cray

[@RuthBhmand]

Teacher here🙋🏽‍♂️, loads of parents do really unhinged things when children become more self aware in their teenage years. Just being an adult doesn’t make anyone stable or responsible. And a teenager who starts questioning and thinking independently will trigger horrible parent behaviour. Sadly (I cannot give details, because confidential issues)

[@minestar2247]

Yeah, that's pretty horrible and probably illegal

[@naolucillerandom5280]

I was a bit older but I got kicked out as a teen, it was past 10 pm on an area known to have burglars, stray dogs, random alcoholics, and the occasional kidnapper, no phone. It's not a long walk to a close relative's house but dear god it felt like the longest walk ever.

[@VixenBebopIV]

About the kid who was 14: 5:17 In the US I tried vigorously getting away from my abusive mother, I tried everything, calling the cops, I tried running away, I tried telling the school, I tried telling my friends and their parents about it but no matter what I did, they talked to her afterwards, and every single time she would lie to their face, with a smile. I remember After a beating the cops were called, I learned she threw away my Dan brown books and I was furious, I was yelling at her, it led to... Not good things for me. When the cops showed up I talked to them, then they spoke with her. After a little while a police officer walked up to me and told me "You'll get through it. I had to deal with strict mothers too when I was a kid." The look of dread on my face, I must have gone while and started crying before they fucked off. I was 14, my brother had just passed away too, and no matter how hard I tried, nothing. The police officers in a lot of places of the US are like this, they don't believe the child even after they prove what happens because the cops talk to the adults who have some crazy explanation for everything, and because they are over 18, they are always believed, it took me until I was 17 and a half to escape, in the US all most kids can do is wait, it's really REALLY sad to see things get like this in this country, I am glad not everyone in the world has to deal with this

[@intercat4907]

Glad you're here. One of my counselors had a plaque that said, "It's never too late to have a happy childhood." I started mine in my 50's and I'm having a ball. Come on in, the water's fine! (And don't be afraid/embarrassed to get a counselor - some things are just too hard to do alone.)

[@VixenBebopIV]

@@intercat4907 Thank you for the support, I appreciate it friend. I'm only 18, but now that I am away from her in nyc I managed to make friends, we like to smoke weed and game. It really says something about your parenting when the child is happier being homeless than living with you- Moving out of there was the one thing my anxiety didn't fight me with

[@iriswaldenburger2315]

Because in MOST cases the parents ARENT abusing their children

[@LilChuunosuke]

Yeah i didn't even bother trying to run away as a teenager because my local PD not only had known child abusers and wife beaters, but my parents also sent them bribes at least once per year. When I told my doctors I thought my parents were going to literally end my life, I was called a liar and attention seeker. When I told my teachers & school counselor, they literally started blackmailing me and ordering me to do this and that or else they would call my abusers and repeat everything I reported to them.

[@Sandfox07]

and where the hell did you get that from?​@@iriswaldenburger2315

[@enderger5308]

And this is why I’ll never have kids. I have a psychological disorder that often distorts my view of reality, and I would never forgive myself if I let paranoid delusions get between me and innocent children as they have done to my family in the past (the factor that shows it would be inevitable for me). How some people become this paranoid without a disorder is beyond me.

[@LoremIpsum-dp1li]

Ah, some (un)wholesome time with Click to distract me from my country's parliament failing to legalize gay marriage.

[@Moravian_Mf]

Sameeee

[@aetriis]

SAME WHY DOES SOUTH AMERICA SUCK SO MUCHHH

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

U wanna illegally gay kiss? 😈

[@andersondonttalkoutloud]

You're Czech? ( I am)

[@LoremIpsum-dp1li]

@@andersondonttalkoutloud Yes.

[@DarcOne13]

Yo, that "Genderbread Person" is actually really helpful in explaining things. Like, I'm female, gender-fluid, and androgynous/slightly femme, and those all coexist. I'm also asexual and rarely romantically attracted to people, but often aesthetically attracted. My brain is wonk, man.

[@minestar2247]

Must be even more weird to feel it than read about it, is it?

[@LRM12o8]

The fact she posted that between all the anti-queer propaganda memes made me laugh out loud! 10/10 accidental ally moment! 😂

[@willw6504]

I saw this comment before I got through the MASSIVE list of memes. As noted elsewhere, half of them seemed like Accidental Ally memes, but Genderbread? That's a sex positive meme! Why did the crazy person post that in the middle of their rant? And yeah, I've always appreciated it because it helps explain my Sapphic self - sexually attracted to all, romantically attracted to women - and that it supports trans folk by having three different gender related sliders. One of the best gender and sexuality infographics I have ever seen.

[@GretchZ]

Correction: brains are wonk.

[@Sigh_Duck_]

I actually use this when teaching my Child Psychology course and my students found it very helpful!

[@kingparadise87]

I love the Clicks rants about this kind of stuff. 1 because he gets every story pretty much spot on And 2 because all the censoring and stuff while still knowing what he's saying is absolutely ducking hilarious

[@Mister_WeirdCore_]

Every time we go over this subreddit I have to remind myself that these are real people speaking.

[@PaperGuy_]

As a Christian I've never understood homo- or transphobia at all. The most important message of the Bible is literally love the ones around you

[@danielomar9712]

No hate more than Christian love lol "Love thy neighbour" is often pushed aside in favour of all the rhetoric of how "gay people are demons" and "transpeople are destroying christianity"

[@jacquimott386]

I don’t know massive detail in the bible, but from memory and gut feeling any quote that could be used to support homophobia or hate would be from the Old Testament or other areas, like Corinthians. Pretty sure nothing Christ said could be interpreted like this. Of course “Christians” have managed to do violence throughout history (eg. crusades) in the name of someone who didn’t even approve of violence in self defence 🙄

[@creeperchan8504]

I think theres like, GOOD Christians, Christians who follow the Bible but dont use the Bible itself for bad intentions, then there’s bad Christians. They claim they’re Christan but then dont follow the rules of the Bible???? Also sometimes take religion too seriously, and care more about the religion than THEIR OWN FAMILY.

[@UnicornsPoopRainbows]

​@@creeperchan8504 100%. I've had both in my family. My grandma grew up in a Southern Baptist church, very "It's the end of days", and was a certified pastor but never wanted to actually do more than guest sermons. My sister and I are pretty atheistic but she'd just pat our hands and say "That's okay, baby. You'll come to Jesus in your own time." Hell, our church (nondenominational) had a Jewish lesbian as an elder. When they were hunting for new pastors, she's why many didn't stick around. They made a comment about her or her partner and they were told to leave ❤ I'm still not a believer but I miss that church and the members. True Christians ❤❤

[@hmnhntr]

Also, "before God, there is no man or woman" feels pretty straightforward to me. God is a spiritual being without a biological sex who identifies as male. Pretty sure He's fine with identities besides cis and straight.

[@imtryingman]

I know he's Swedish but... "e-boop-pro-fiend" is a wonderful way to say ibuprofen

[@waffles3629]

Yeah. 😂 I called it boo-boo-pof and then boo-boo-profen as a kid. Heck I still call it boo-boo-profen out of habit sometimes.

[@persephonepraelia502]

I'm Swedish and I've never realised that it sounds like that when we say it in Swedish. its so cute. thank you for bringing attention to it

[@vixofthemoss]

Y-you don't say it like that?? I'm not even swedish I've always called it that

[@imtryingman]

@@vixofthemoss Lol no in the States its I-bee-pro-fin

[@BrKeMM]

Timestamp?

[@Marr023]

The way the click says “ibuprofen” had me unintentionally cracking up lol

[@digifreak90]

42:45 The real sad part is, I can almost guarantee that the parents who buy those onesies are the same ones who will go on a vicious tirade if a onesie were to have a rainbow on it.

[@sunshineinspring]

13:00 My mom taught me, that if I ever write or talk with someone on the phone who threatens to unalive themselves I should just ask where they are and pretend like I'm coming to them but instead call the police and send them to the given location. If the person actually meant it, the police can be there way faster than I ever could and help them. If it was just to manipulate me, they learn that I don't take their shit.

[@waffles3629]

I didn't learn it from my parents, but that's my plan as well. You don't joke around with stuff like that.

[@unluckystaravia2352]

I would recommend against that if there is the possibility the person is actually suicidal (If they are simply threatening you that's different obviously and your way shows that you aren't having their shit) since in my experience with police they deal with people with trauma so very poorly and can often escalate very quickly if you don't feed their power trip As a child at 9 I had the police called on me for having an autistic meltdown and then became mute (as in literally unable to speak due to stress) and couldn't respond to the police who kept escalating the situation because I was silent having a panic attack instead of answering them clearly My point is if they aren't suicidal but clearly using that phrase to attempt to manipulate you that could work, but if someone is actually suicidal or may be and you are unsure the cops are the last people who are qualified to get involved

[@unluckystaravia2352]

The person in the video is clearly just manipulation, but I noticed you saying if they actually were suicidal the police could be there faster than you to help but do be careful since police aren't expected to be educated in most places on mental health and can cause more problems than they help

[@rebny7801]

In my country it would probably work because there is not enough place in psyciatric clinics, many peoples with issue are unatended. But if police goes to pick suicidal people up, they bring them to the psychiatric clinic.

[@mad_hatt]

I wish I knew this before! Even when you know someone is saying it just to manipulate you it’s hard to ignore. This should be a more commonly known strategy!

[@glamourchick21]

In the interest of full disclosure, my younger brother was born at home. It was a planned home birth. I was two years old, and I was in the room when he was born, and as far as I can tell, I was not traumatized by the experience. Not that I remember it. I do know that I was jumping on the bed while my mom was in labor, because she has told me so. And that when my grandma announced, "It's a boy!" I got very excited and yelled, "ABOYABOYABOYABOY!" Now, with that being said, my parents also had an obstetrician and a qualified midwife and clean fucking water...

[@jon_j__]

As far as I'm concerned, the only problem with a home birth is that you might be a long way from the hospital, so if anything randomly goes wrong then mother/baby are much more likely to die. If you know you have some kind of issue with your pregnancy, a home birth is probably a bad idea. However, I understand why people accept the risk when their pregnancy is otherwise uncomplicated.

[@glamourchick21]

@@jon_j__ My mom was almost not allowed to give birth at home because it was three weeks before her due date, and as a rule of thumb, the OB didn't like to do home births more than two weeks before the due date. But they could tell my brother was a good healthy size, so they did eventually allow it.

[@lediona3996]

We have well water too and it sure as fuck doesn't look like that! 😂

[@AIHumanEquality]

Home birthing is fine if it's done properly. The problem is many home birthers (especially in America) don't have any medical professionals around.

[@feverishdream]

Help I read that as "ayoby" 😭😭

[@silverflight01]

In regards to the post about a 15 yr old break-up, this mom sounded like she wanted to straight up start the male equivalent of a "witch hunt" over a break-up instead of consoling the daughter. Like imagine you date someone, things don't go out well, you break up with them for fair reasons, and suddenly their mom shows up and starts bullying and harassing you. That's childish!

[@feuerling]

Witch hunt is not gender specific

[@margretrosenberg420]

3:49 She isn't at a friend's house; she took refuge with her "Nannie" after her mom kicked her out. In this context, "Nannie" means "grandmother." In other words, the mother is threatening to have Nannie arrested along with her daughter.

[@felixthesad]

My grandparents were the exact same way about me walking home from school. They'd be pissed if I didn't come home immediately, got pissed if I stopped for snacks to or from school, got pissed if I walked with friends, etc. If I ever deviated from the path they'd immediately start accusing me of doing drugs or having sex with strangers.

[@minestar2247]

Interesting, that's probably how their morality also works then "you should follow the strait path, never deviate from it, as that would lead you to hell"

[@Sly-Moose]

Whenever parents or grandparents accuse that kind of stuff, that means they're projecting out of shame cuz they use to do those exact things and more when they were young, so really they just calling themselves out. 😂

[@minestar2247]

@@Sly-Moose you wouldn't want your children or grand children making the same mistakes you did, would you?

[@luvondarox]

Yikes. I am so sorry. My brother and I were borderline latchkey kids, so trying to imagine a parental unit being so... obsessed? strict? focused? on their kids' exact whereabouts is concerning. Unless they live in a high child-snatching area, in which it would maybe make more sense I guess.

[@felixthesad]

@@minestar2247 oh no trust me that's not the worse thing they did. They raised me and genuinely hated me for it because "we could have been in retirement by now if we hadn't taken you in." And decided to take that frustration out on me. It definitely wasn't about them not wanting me to make the same mistakes as them.

[@eustacia03]

Regarding "put you in a home mom" at the beginning - If the kid got legally taken away from awful mom she wouldn't go into a home. The state will generally place this kids with another family member unless there is no safe option in the family.

[@lemonadewithstrawberries]

I was thinking that while listening to the story. the stuff she's smoking must be crack

[@nicolebacon2747]

I was just going to say the same thing. They might get put into a home temporarily while making arrangements for their care, but usually they try to keep the kids with their family/people they know.

[@fancydeer]

While this is true, the mom was likely using this to scare their kid into minding her. she likely developed the "put you in a home" tactic when the kid was young and made "homes" sound like hell on earth to make her child want to stay in her abusive care and make her seem like a good option. It's a way for her to keep control and to keep her kid from reporting her to a teacher or other family members. Also, parents will be given every chance to get their kids back so if the parent doesn't have a record they'll likely get investigated and the kid will go right back to an abusive parent.

[@kurotsuki7427]

​@fancydeer true, but thats all the more reason to point out shes full of shit, so hopefully kids in the same situation will know better.

[@rcspoore]

Reading the comments on the Reddit post, their grandma doesn't "believe" in the situation and most likely nothing will happen. Even the child's teacher said the situation was "fine"

[@vaszgul736]

Gotta say, about the free birthing section. 1.Dogs are a bad example of this because they are social. More isolated species of mammal have even less support systems and give birth, yes, but those had to evolve to survive and reproduce without community, language or any kind of support system. They are in fact a different species from humans. Even dogs, who as wolves, would usually have the female usually stay underground, in the dark, in a den by herself, would still have a whole pack of wolves at the most and at the very least, a mate that stands guard and feeds her. Humans evolved from extremely social primates that nanny/babysit, take the kids off each others hands and have much more social and hands-on approach to child rearing. Then we developed language and reading and even more ways to use that social need to interact in order to help one another. The fact we have modern medicine now is even more amazing, and a massive advantage over how dangerous childbirth used to be. 2. It is dangerous even for dogs, wolves, especially for non-social mammals, and yes, for people, to give birth. The survival rate of offspring is often quite low if literally anything goes wrong. Many mammals will eat their own offspring when it does go wrong because they have no other options, no modern medicine, no way to ask for help, nothing else that can be done. I don't think looking to 'mammals' as a whole is a great idea for childrearing because we are all different species and the reality is that humans are very much spoiled when it comes to having things like antibiotics, pain meds, emergency c-section and other life saving surgeries we can rely on that just aren't there in nature. Natural is not always better, fam. If your dog could comprehend how much better humans have it, and speak and understand things the way humans do, they'd probably want their offspring born around people who can step in in an emergency. The survival of your offspring is kinda the main goal in that situation. Not the naturalness of it.

[@ellicurus]

Pregnancy hormones are constantly making me feel like I’m the worst parent ever for eating a turkey sandwich and not buying my kid an extra tin of cards at Pokémon league; but then Click and the emotional support demons come and remind me that I’m doing just fine.

[@TheKitKatProject]

but why not buy the tin of cards for yourself? 😈

[@ellicurus]

@@TheKitKatProject I would but the point was to *save* money 😂

[@AmberAmber]

​@@ellicurus I hope you have a safe pregnancy & a super typical & MINIMALLY painful delivery (I was a teen mum & my kids are now grown, but my memories of preg hormones, preg recurrent nightmares, & labour, delivery, & preeclampsia are still FIRMLY implanted in my mind, so I FEEL for you · super hard & very sincerely). Love to you from Toronto ❤

[@mintybadger6905]

Save your strength for the real job of feeling guilty every day after your child is born. 🙂 pick your battles and give yourself some grace.

[@christinaford7021]

22:43 as someone who was disciplined in the shower as a child, I can say that I now hate showers and prefer baths since the rims of the tub can provide protection especially if you wrap yourself in the shower curtain. It also gave me anxiety, i wonder if I did something wrong before washing and would just skip washing altogether if I knew they were mad at me. The beating hurts more with wet skin.

[@kitty79er]

your parents should be in jail

[@Amy-ky5wr]

That's so awful that they did that to you. Straight up abuse, inexcusable abuse. Wishing you well and safe now.

[@Elodie-xi3pp]

Okay so first of all I’m hoping you are safe now second of all your “parents” suck majorly I put it in air quotes because they don’t deserve to be called parents, they deserve to be call all sorts of things but not parents

[@Zi-pz2vn]

This video just made me realize this wasn’t a thing everyone went thru

[@meowshrume]

Same, my mother would do this when no one was around and now when I go into the bathroom I tend to loose time and dissociate.

[@michaeldouglass5143]

Feels bad whenever bad religious people use god to validate their opinions, I've met some really nice Christian and catholic people, and 90% of the time they are supportive of gay, trans, and all that. The other 10% they are either gay or trans themselves, or they don't really care. In both cases, they are some of the kindest and happiest people I've ever met.

[@FriskDrinksBrisk]

If you ever meet me, I'd definitely be in the ten percent!

[@amandahugenkiss2310]

I think religions is like an amplifier of personality like alcohol. A nice religious person is going to be really nice and a religious asshole is gonna be a huge asshole.

[@Rubygal]

4:54 there was a gal who was working for my parents about a year ago (still does) who’s mom did the exact same thing, kicking her out, calling her in as a runaway, etc and she ended up living with us until the end of last July. Fast forward to a month and a half ago and her mom didn’t go to a fourth *mandatory* court hearing in a row. She was taken into state custody and out of her mom’s. My parents went through the process of background checks and fingerprinting and whatnot, and she was placed with us about 2 weeks after she was put in state custody. She has been with us for about a month but thinks that she will get kicked out again or that the state will think she needs mental help and take her back and it’s truly sad to think about. She’s a sweet gal and she has a really hard time seeing that we care.

[@katherinel8661]

"CHILDREN BELONG IN THE COAL MINES, NOT IN RAINBOWS" may be one of my favorite Click out-of-context snippets yet.

[@Sikaz5119]

Where can I se this?

[@dakrabking]

About 19:53 ​@@Sikaz5119

[@anonymous-or3re]

19:52 ​@@Sikaz5119

[@karnavi6172]

Actually, I find calling someone an unstable birch - literally, not as a euphemism - a ver good insult. It's a very pretty and useful tree, but when it falls, it often breaks into quite a few fragments. So an unstable birch is a person on the edge of disaster that will end very badly for them.

[@TheDMan2003]

“It’s a very pretty and useful tree…” Minecraft players: “Yeah, about that…”

[@setster007]

Man whipping out the dendrology over here, and I love it. New phrase acquired.

[@AliaM270]

​@@TheDMan2003 which makes the insult even better

[@Splinkkyy]

What does everyone have against minecraft birch trees 😭

[@TheDMan2003]

@@Splinkkyy I have absolutely no clue.

[@nikovallenius3871]

Just came from Baldur's Gate 3, and you're serving me True Soul vs Yet Another Religious Lunatic. I thought I just finished the last one of them, but apparently Orin wasn't the most mentally unstable one of the lot. Gosh, that is just true supervillain communication.

[@Butterscotch_96]

20:33 Is when my brain gave up trying to understand what the person was saying. Surprised I made it that far.

[@TSSmith]

Fun fact: The Hunger Games bible verse at 18:53 is only three verses after it tells slaves to obey their masters!

[@austinluther5825]

Yeah, Ephesians is definitely not one of the feel good books.

[@vitaliitomas4057]

@@austinluther5825 are there any in old testament?

[@jessicaolson490]

That one's from the New testament

[@AnonymousAnarchist2]

Insane wholesome story Son- Hands me Skittles says "I'm gay I like to taste the rainbow" then runs inside. Me- Laughes for days because I met his boyfriend months ago and made sure to always say somthing supportive and postive to my son eveyday since (We live in a very socially conservitive area)

[@BrickNewton]

That is such a great way to say it!

[@artsyhoodies]

I adore when parents get mad when kids even touch rainbows nowadays because it feels like a joke. When I was little kiddo, I loved rainbows because colors pretty not "I am now G A Y". I think that's how most children were. (And even if I am now bisexual, the rainbow did not make me gay.)

[@BennyDogwasp]

At the Gates are a Swedish death metal band and At War with Reality is one of their albums. The "spooky hands" are the actual album cover. It's a bit strange to see this used as a meme for extremist Christian doctrine!

[@WishGender]

That Genderbread person diagram is actually a very helpful guide to explaining how gender identity and romantic/sexual orientation can present differently

[@inkdd1463]

Every time I hear a Christian or catholic transphobe/homophobe say “God doesn’t make mistakes” or “don’t destroy what God gave you” and whatnot, I always thought: “do you eat bread?” And “Do you wear glasses or know someone who does?”

[@Azziyaisalwaysonline]

Curious - what does the bread one mean?

[@inkdd1463]

@@Azziyaisalwaysonline to make bread you need flour and to make flour you need wheat (and wheat is probably not entirely one of God’s creations, tbh) Essentially what I meant was “why’re you raging at trans people for changing something God gave em when we turn wheat into bread?”

[@Humanresouces]

"Do you ever watch the news? And don't say Fox."

[@robertabarnhart6240]

@@inkdd1463 Even better - the wheat we turn into bread is not the kind that evolved naturally (or was created by God). It was selectively bred by humans into the edible stuff.

[@GrifoStelle]

​@@robertabarnhart6240don't forget the modified yeast we cultivate, propagate then kill to leaven that bread since cooked wheat isn't good enough

[@OceanSidezOnline]

I have my own few family horror stories. My dad once threatened me and my two sisters to shut up or he would “starve us into comas to shut us up” He also has punched holes in our walls and doors, and when he loses it and yells at me and breaks stuff, my mum always blames me and tells me to be nicer (I’m legitimately the embodiment of a good kid) My dad also hates me wearing two piece swimming suits and shaving my arm pits (I’m 15) and once even said that me and my sister were “far too hot” I have far more stories, him yelling In my face and a few minutes later demanding me to get over it. And both of them always threaten to take away things like my extracurricular activities as soon as I show some sort of rebellious nature. I also would always get locked in my room when I got upset so I could “get over it” and would only be let out when I stopped crying. Worst part is I’m really lucky, and my parents do truly love me and give me everything I would need. (We’re upper middle class) Though I’m called a spoilt brat a lot, especially when I was offering suggest for my birthday gifts 😅 Hope everyone is doing ok ❤

[@NightItselfSince0000]

My parents used to have two paddles. One of them had holes drilled into it (so it could move through the air faster and hit harder). They really tried using them on me, but it didn't work. To me, it wasn't "They hit me when I act up, so I should stop acting up so they stop hitting me." In my mind, it was "They're supposed to be taking care of me, but they're hitting me, and I don't like that, so I'm going to act up more." So whenever someone says that I can't take criticism well, this is why.

[@NightItselfSince0000]

My dad broke one of the paddles because he was mad and started slamming it against the wall to scare us. He hits things a lot when he's mad, and I've started to pick up on that. Not only did I start doing it, but now, whenever he's mad, I just kinda tense up so I don't flinch since I'm just expecting it.

[@NightItselfSince0000]

BUT TO CLARIFY, I DON'T THINK THIS COUNTS AS ABUSIVE!

[@bouncyvenus]

sorry mate but thats all levels of abusive

[@Moszan]

Are you sure about that? If those actions weren't abusive, then you wouldn't be tensing up and flinching any time pops start seeing red.

[@thehippydisnerd4887]

​@@NightItselfSince0000 what doesn't? The horrific experience you just described?

[@gene8447]

That 360 life app is so dystopian. I'm in my 30s. When I was a teenager, my mother was incredibly upset and felt violated when she found out my stepfather put a keylogger on her computer to keep track of her. She now uses 360 on her current husband. I have brought this strange hypocrisy up to her, and she says she can't trust him and that it's different. They're in their late 50s. I don't know what has happened in the last 10-20 years. But it feels like technology has rotted out the brains of the older gens. They fear everything and need constant control over their surroundings. Is it the guilt? Is it all of the collective abuse finally coming back to haunt them? I can only assume.

[@Vanderboom97]

And then they turn around and talk about how addicted we are to our technology

[@ShimyV]

360 app is a 50/50 situation. Everytime I hear someone mention it they say they have it against their will, they are being stalked, etc etc. Very bad and serious situations. My mother asked me to download it when I moved away from her. Granted, it was from PR to the USA. I keep my location on ALWAYS. Maybe I'm brainwashed, maybe I'm too cautious, but if something happens to me, at least there's a small clue or hint, or proof about what happened or where I am. Society has not made me feel safe enough as a woman to not be tracked by my family members, much more considering I get home from work at midnight. My mother has told me she only uses it to check if I'm at work before calling me or telling my grandparents if I'm working or not (rotating shifts). 50/50 whether it is a law suit or the only thing that helps a young woman sleep feeling a little safer.

[@sarahblack9333]

If she distrusts him that much... Divorce???

[@sarahblack9333]

​@@ShimyVmy dad has a tracking app he turns on when he goes on long bike rides.

[@Luubelaar]

It's so weird. The boomers are either addicted to technology or they're total Luddites (anti anything technology). You almost never hear of anyone in between.

[@aceofspades1.0]

Ex-Christian here: when they say "fleshly desires", it means that you do whatever you want instead of following "God's plan."

[@amandahugenkiss2310]

I mean, it’s ridiculous that a mere human can ruin the plans of a supposedly omnipotent deity just by living the lifestyle they believe is best fit for them.

[@Luubelaar]

​@@amandahugenkiss2310 right? Either he's all powerful and my choices should mean squat, or he's not and I can do whatever I want. Ya can't have it both ways!!

[@mattisbohm5051]

Didn't he give us free will? Thats so stupid.

[@MegaSwaus918]

I know I'm going to get a lot of hate for this but I don't really care because the true must be told and if you don't like it that's you choice if you feel offended: God did give everyone on this planet free will to do whatever you it your path that you take you could either follow Christ or follow the flesh desires. The fall of humanity began when Adam and Eve ate from the forbidden tree because they chose their own path. God won't try to interfere with your life/lifestyle because you live in sin. Now if blaming God for giving you a disability isn't his fault. You were never intended to have a disability I'm not 100% sure why people are born defects, but that doesn't mean he doesn't care for you he loves everyone, even those who hate him. But all I can say is that one day everyone on this earth will face Judgment and that day he will either say you are going to Heaven or Hell there is no in between but that is up to you to make a change not Jesus. And the day He'll come back will be like a theat in the night so prepare yourself so you be caught of guard. The truth will be told.

[@theunseenseelie3490]

@@mattisbohm5051 Don’t start with that. That leads to Eve eating the Apple, which leads to all woman are bad. Believe me, those people can not be reasoned with.

[@samanthagrace8874]

2nd story - my Nan (who I lived with) kicked me out over and over, then used to threaten to call the police on me for running away. Eventually, I went to a friend’s house and refused to come back. I don’t know if she called the police, I never heard from them, but she then proceeded to stalk the shit out of me for YEARS. Narcissism at its finest

[@Vallyrah]

25:34 "What are with parents and respecting?" As an insane parent my answer would be. . . I do require that my children treat me with respect at all times. They have to treat everyone with respect, including themselves. I believe that how you treat someone says more about you than it does about them. This applies to me as well. I must at all times treat them with respect. Insane right? I also how taught them how to stand-up for themselves and not to tolerate when others don't treat them respect.

[@Moravian_Mf]

I SHALL NOT CURE MY GAYNESS. SUFFER INSANE PARENTS

[@Harpzzi]

PREACH, BROTHER / SISTER / SIBLING

[@feuerling]

Cure, as in salting, seasoning, and drying it like a good ham. Make your gayness the tastiest gayness to ever exist.

[@danielomar9712]

​@@feuerlingMAKE GAYNESS SWEET AND YUMMY !

[@vanillaproductions8596]

@@danielomar9712 MAKE GAYNESS LIKE BBQ OR FISH!!! ANY GAY CAN BE ANY FLAVOR!!!!!

[@creeperchan8504]

@@danielomar9712 my favorite dish, gayness!

[@lucy_sl]

We all honestly need 10 emotional support demons

[@NIITR0NIICEA]

NO 10 THOUSAND EACH 🤬

[@minestar2247]

Sadly they are prohibitively expensive, and probably allergic to prayers

[@RexytheRexy]

Or one gigantic emotional support demon.

[@Grace-ms7un]

​@@RexytheRexy yea an emotional back support demon 😊

[@RexytheRexy]

@@Grace-ms7un I'm definitely getting up there in years, so that would be doubly excellent 😂

[@RainbowFlowerCrow]

@6:32 This is terrible.. that poor 14 year old! I had the same happen to me when I was 15, abused and kicked out of the house, only to have my mother go on a campaign against me. She told my brothers to ignore me at school and not talk to me, and cried to my dad about begging me to go back "home". *She kicked me out!* She scared tf out of me all the time, and everyone involved was complicit in her abuse! I never should have gone back, because of course more things happened.. Im 45 now, and still traumatized by what that woman put me through. I'm in therapy now though, and it's helping; I hope that the kid in this story can get the help and support that they need. Good for them setting boundaries and not falling for their mother's manipulative behaviour!

[@StarlightMischief]

I had a friend who had a helicopter mom. This was before cellphones were mainstream. Calls from the HOUSE PHONE at 12, 1, 2 AM every time they slept over. My dad worked from 5AM to 5PM so once I let him answer the phone. My ex-friend wasn't allowed to sleep over the entire summer because their mom "couldn't be sure" they were safe.

[@arceusinsanity301]

37:23 human birth is also a lot more dangerous due to how big the heads are and how small our hips are in comparison. To the point we evolved to give birth earlier in order to survive, that's why human babies are a lot more helpless when fresh out

[@dragonwolfzero820]

That's a great fact!

[@amandahugenkiss2310]

It’s the combination of bipedalism and big heads that makes human birth so difficult.

[@John_Weiss]

The Straights™, to LGBT+ people: "StOp SeXuAlIzInG ChIlDrEn" Also the Straights™: This crap at 42:27.

[@gur3478]

I’ve never understood straights and their hypersexualization OF BABIES TODDLERS AND KIDS

[@tr-st_me_bro]

“STRAIGHTS TM” IM DYINGGG 😭

[@John_Weiss]

@@tr-st_me_broThat's how we indicate that we're not talking about _all_ heterosexuals.

[@SingingSealRiana]

​@@John_Weissi Love that!

[@Totally.not.Tarkus]

​@@John_Weissok I understand now but a bit of clarification earlier on would be nice

[@ApparentlyINeedAChannel]

My mom and I can track each other. She does get anxiety about driving and sometimes I'll get a text when my dad (divorced but friends) is driving me that says like "why is he taking you that way" (meaning the route he's taking is overly convoluted bc he doesn't know the better way). No insane parenting, just friendly judgement. I track her to see when she's coming home and she does the same for me. I don't understand why people fail so strongly to have the slightest bit of respect

[@soundcheck63]

20:30 meme is an image from Dark Souls and font from what looks like God of War, both games set in a polytheistic world used for a Christian mom meme. I just found that kinda funny.

[@rachelturney6179]

Dear god, the religious parents make me roll my eyes. It’s literally them over compensating for doing shit they regretted when they were young. Acting like an ass isn’t going to make your child to go to church and “repent” it does the opposite effect.

[@JoshSweetvale]

What did Abraham do? Religious people would kill their children if their preacher wanted them to. And their preacher wants to molest their children.

[@jenniferphillippi1715]

Exactly why less and less peaple follow religions

[@AlqhemyA]

EXACTLY. ever since i was forced to come out as gay my parents wont stop talking about god and religion and its only made me lose faith💀

[@jessicaolson490]

It makes me think they live by, love your neighbor as yourself, but they must really really hate themselves. 😮

[@Jeice1010]

So glad I have a religious parent (my dad is religious. my mum is more lukewarm) that is still respectful and doesn’t hate EVEN WHEN THE MAIN RULE OF THE BIBLE IS TO “LOVE THY NEIGHBOR”

[@KenshiImmortalWolf]

the mom who responded to them being bi was clearly having a stroke because there's no way a mind could create a madness of salad there.

[@Auxiliooo]

i have no clue what she’s rambling about. i’m so confused lol

[@Known_ErrorMe]

I sounded like she was chanting a demon spell😂

[@sonia625]

yeah I saw all that wall of text and was like… is this AI? sounds like a buncha jibberish that a hallucinating AI would generate

[@yuukiiiiilover]

bro thinks she’s in an RPG 💀

[@lexwithbub]

The mom clearly thought bisexual meant trans. I'm surprised the daughter didn't block her.

[@vitaaviandhono2506]

I will never forget these stories from my close friend: once when she was little her father asked for tea, he said it wasn't hot enough and poured the tea on her head. He also once threw her older sister in the pool because he was angry at her. Her childhood stories were wild to put it mildly

[@melissabarrett9750]

Lots of the most horrific and disturbing stories are usually true. Unfortunately

[@bellablue5285]

For anyone who goes on deployments - make sure that if you can't do direct deposit/auto pay for whatever reason, you truly absolutely trust whomever has access to your accounts. I know more horror stories than I wish of kids who got home to find everything gone after their partner/parent/whomever stole everything/didn't pay the bills. I'm out of the loop now, so maybe employers (especially military) have put things in place to reduce this, but it can and has happened.

[@Lupis9272]

19:10 fun fact- Eve didn’t exist yet in this genesis scripture. Adam was either nonbinary or intersex. He was “male and female”. Eve was created after this, and so this scripture wouldn’t make sense in a story based point of view if it was referring to Eve. Adam was a “man” but was also “male and female” his gender was male while his sex was both male and female.

[@rosesapling72]

shhhh dont you realize these christians would never actually read the bible? show some cherrypicked verses that support their claim and THEN we'll talk 😭

[@MegaSwaus918]

​@rosesapling72 What more proof do you need it literally says it. ‭‭Genesis 1:27 NIV‬‬ [27] So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. Adam and Eve were made in God's image I don't know what else you want.

[@Flob13]

Eve was also originally created from half of Adam, not just a rib. Wonder why that got changed…

[@MegaSwaus918]

@@Flob13 May be it'd different in other Bibles

[@jessicaolson490]

In Christianity God is three beings too, so doesn't that mean it's not binary but three? 😆 Makes a lot more sense if we're made in his image and there's so many variations in sexuality. Pretty sure God is pan, Jesus is ace. The ghost is ???, but most stand in for some type of femme aspect of "father" and "son" are already taken. I like to point out that God designed creatures like the clownfish too when they like to mention that it's against nature/God to be anything but cis/het and to "look at nature". I'm pretty sure nobody told them that a big percentage of male sheep are gay, etc.

[@FerrumAnulum]

31:18 WELL WATER SHOULD NEVER LOOK LIKE THAT?! If your water is ever that brown it could be a handful of different things and all of them are not good to be GIVING BIRTH IN!

[@feuerling]

Well water, but instead of an actual well it's from a forgotten borehole under their shed that contains 3 different species of alien brain parasites and is probably cursed.

[@LRM12o8]

Oh my goodness, I was wondering what her sitting in the pool had to do with giving birth! 😱🥶🤮 That is disgusting!

[@FerrumAnulum]

@@LRM12o8 water birth is a fairly common method for giving birth. But like I said it shouldn't be in water that looks like it's been dredged from the bottom of a livestock watering hole...

[@LiliannEnder]

It's well water from the bubonic plague lol

[@umyoutuberqualquer6893]

thank god my parents rules are pretty much: don't add to the world population don't subtract from the world population

[@amberg4131]

33:55 lady who’s daughter got broken up with; wanting her footballer son to beat up the ex bf… Lady… who hurt you?!!?

[@sketchiscribblr8285]

37:50 I wonder how this op would react to like, their kid's hamster giving birth, having this similar sort of 'we are mammals, instinctively know how to birth and mother' spiel - and then check in the next day to the hamster having eaten a couple of them

[@suburbanmama0062]

I don't understand how anyone can treat their children this way. These same people wonder why their kids cut ties and get as far away as they possibly can as soon as they can. I will never understand why awful people are able to have kids they mistreat and don't deserve while people who would be amazing parents aren't able to have kids. I hope the kids in these stories have adults in their lives who can be a good support system and help them get away from these awful people.

[@AussieGuy-qb8mh]

It’s like the clown meme where the person looks more and more like a clown Parents: My kid is gay Parents: I know. I will tell him he’s a satanic monster Parents: He wants to run away? I will punish him more while insulting him Parents years later: Why has my kid moved to another state and cut ties with me??

[@darabounds6671]

36:47 she is pushing this idea that being a mother just comes naturally. Even in animals, there can be bad mothers. I had a pair stray cats that I adopted together because they were found together. I found out they were both pregnant. One of the cats was a very good parent, and used a good safe birthing space we had for her. The other one gave birth on the cold kitchen tile and was very neglectful of her kittens. We ended up mixing the litters together because the good mother kept stealing kittens from the other one.

[@SILVER_W0Wz]

I have quite literally 0 freedom at my house Heres a list of things to prove this; I have: never been to any amusement park, never had a sleepover, never been to our citys library, never been to a friend's house, never hung out with a friend out of school, never had a birthday party, most of the time, will not get the gifts i ask foe on birthdays, i have a heavily parented phone whilst being 14 at the moment, my whole family has fancy phones while i do not and i could go on Oh, and i have unmedicated and supported Autism and Adhd.

[@Alexander31290]

"If this is what God indoreses then I choose Satan. " I 💯% agree with this sentiment

[@Maraudermarine0]

I shall now add this to my vocabulary

[@FriskDrinksBrisk]

Personally, I'd rather be a double - agent...

[@pandaplayzgaming5069]

Literally, as a raging homosexual Christian, god doesn’t endorse hate 😭😭😭 like tf - my very strict Christian grandparents don’t see it that way tho, they’re all like “😡😡😡GAY PEOPLE 😡😡😡😡”

[@rebel6301]

@@pandaplayzgaming5069man i wish people stopped trying to hide behind religion to excuse their hatefulness, just gives jesus a bad reputation tbh

[@CROWficial]

I completely agree. There are so many actual normal Christians out there but the bad side of Christianity is what gets most of the unneeded spotlight@@rebel6301

[@laszlodomonkos3941]

To the bunny comment: You don't have to go even that far. People used to have far more babies not 100 years ago. The constervatives love throw around these facts saying "In you granies's times there were BIG families with lots of children." But they tend to forget that thechild mortality rate was way higher than today. I'm not pulling this out of my ass either. A couple years back I was researching my family trees purely out of curiosity. I discovered a lot of interesting things about my family. But I repeatedly came across with these big families, where most of the children would die. One of my great-grandfather's family (they recorded their family tree after WWI) had about 10 children and only 4 of them reached adulthood. My mother's family had 3 children and one of them died during infancy. Today I don't know anyone whose children died, even with my country's shitty health care system (I live in Hungary).

[@amandahugenkiss2310]

Back then people had like 10 kids in the hopes that 3 or four make it to adulthood. In the modern day families only have two or three kids but they also have everything to make sure all two or three of these kids make it to adulthood.

[@jenniferkoenig9814]

Also, the most common cause of death for women, up to about 100 years ago (and still in some countries now) was childbirth. "It's the most natural thing in the world!" sure is.

[@carniethedat7071]

As someone whose grandparents' families consisted of 10 and 13 children respectively, between the two of them, maybe 14 total lived to adulthood. Not a terrible record all things considered, but that's still 9 kids who died before they reached their teenage years, several of them in infancy. That sounds insane to me, who grew up with only one sibling and who never lost a single family member my age. It's honestly the biggest oversight from the people who justify their want for children or grandchildren by turning to historical precedents, and it seems like bringing up the past and actual statistics never helps.

[@ItsJustSeb]

​@EuleGraca Assassinated?! Jeez, I hope her and the family are doing better. That must be horrible!

[@jessicaolson490]

Same most of my grandparents all came from families with 10 to 15 kids. My grandma's family must have been pretty strong because she has four of her siblings still alive in their '80s, and most of them made it to adulthood. But other than that family group you're right you had a terrible chance to make it.

[@emilyschomer6715]

37:42 One time a stray cat had kittens and my neighbors took them in. I adopted the only one that survived

[@GaymerJenn]

I get what you mean, but yeah, the idea of needing a license to have children has eugenics vibes in practice. Pay them to take parenting classes instead. The amount they are paid is based on their participation and grade in the class. Yeah, some people would show up just for the money and ignore all the advice, but it could potentially help a lot of people.

[@rolandhansen812]

The guy in the military whose mother had drained his bank accounts - this happened to my father. When he was in the Army, he would send all his pay home in US Bonds. He figured when he got out, he'd have a nice nest egg to start his life. He got home after his hitch and found his father had cashed in all the bonds and spent the money. This was way back during the Korean War. My grandfather was not a nice person.

[@jessicaolson490]

No kidding. Not only are they stealing from their child but that's money that they earned with their life on the line...😢

[@Jinx661]

I had sepsis years ago, sucked, went into septic shock, and had to be put into a coma for a week and a half, almost died, had 13 drugs while asleep, and was trapped in nightmares until I woke up and the drugs gave me hallucinations which was a living hell. nurses trying to kill me, family dying in front of me and zombies and glowing eyes staring at me from everywhere in the room, etc. yay sepsis. fun times.

[@Sikaz5119]

Jesus Christ I never even heard of this.😮

[@jessicaolson490]

I mean the sepsis itself can cause hallucinations too. I'm glad you made it out, if you get to the point of needing to be putting a coma it's pretty darn bad. 💜

[@redjoker365]

Funny thing is the estranged mother trying to stalk her deployed son's location in a war zone could, depending on how far she pushes things and how much it affects her son's morale, find herself getting threatened with prosecution for violating laws regarding attempting to unlawfully access classified information, as exact troop locations in a war zone is top secret information. COs may even send a couple FBI agents to your stalker's house to put the fear of federal prison into them

[@unknowngod8221]

yeah and also probably the enemy sides MAY kipnap her and get info like military outpost location, HQ or even battle plan/strategic plans all she doing is risking her and her son while making both side benefit or lose

[@redjoker365]

@@unknowngod8221 None of the countries which we're currently at war with would risk pulling that kind of operation on US soil due to the juice not being worth the squeeze. They'd totally disappear a US citizen if they were on foreign territory or their own territory, like what happened to a former VP of Syria back in 2011 in Lebanon, but even in that case that was just petty political revenge and not done for military strategy. US troops move too frequently for Assad to consider it worth kidnapping some random Karen within US borders on the offhand chance she has indicators of where her deployed kid might be, especially since cheap surveillance drones give much better insight into that kind of intel

[@waffles3629]

My partner and I can track each other. We use this all the time, like she gets a ping when I enter the main grocery store we shop at so if she wants to add anything to the list she can. Or I can see when she left work and surprise her with a cup of hot cocoa in the winter (she walks to work, it's pretty close but it can get quite cold at times). We don't use it to stalk each other.

[@brokenprincessofhell4743]

My therapist told me the "honour your parents" has basically nothing to do with "love your parents". Because parents mess up a lot and you basically can't expect children to love their parents in the way of "they are the best and perfect parents". Ofc most children still love their parents nearly no matter what the parents did, it's just kinda in kids brains engraved, but respecting our parents, actually loving them, holding them high is sth different. My therapist basically said sending your parents a card to Christmas and their birthday is enough "honouring your parents" a child has to do. So yea parents, you're not entitled to anything just cause you have kids, be a good parent and you might get a friend in us tho.

[@leonardsusskindswar7258]

The kid with the insanely religious mom should just get her a copy of Dante's Inferno, give it to her, and silently walk off. Also, the run on sentences are ridiculous. Are we sure she isn't possessed?

[@TheDMan2003]

I dunno what type of demon is running around in her head, but one thing’s for sure: she’s got a nasty one.

[@bradleybrown8428]

OH no, demons can write correctly.

[@Kodi_the_human]

Yes. Dante's inferno will do her good.

[@KH-us3rv]

Speaking in tongues, indeed 😅

[@ritsu305-u8g]

36:55 The puppies in this post are lucky enough to have safe and warm environments with enough resources and care from their humans, which I think plays a huge role in how animal parents treat their offspring. The thing is, a lot of mammalian (or other animals, actually) species are naturally “bad parents” by human standards (e.g., harp seals abandon their pups after about two weeks, infanticide is normal among lions, etc.), because their goal is ultimately just to keep their own genes alive. Also a lot of first time mothers in the animal kingdom have no clue what they are doing and eventually kill their babies out of ignorance. And don’t get me started on altruism or r-/K-selection. I can ramble for hours about behavioural biology. Adding my own anecdote: I had hamsters when I was a kid, and when they had babies for the first time, they had no idea what to do with the babies. The mother just went on with life as if nothing happened, didn’t even try to feed or warm up her babies (she probably finally figured it out after they had babies for like the third time, I guess, all the babies also died the second time). Also we should probably stop pushing human standards and ideals to other animals.

[@geoffreyentwistle8176]

I feel like "you don't do anything that makes me question whether or not I should report you to the police myself" is a PERFECTLY REASONABLE condition for love... XP

[@TheLexikitty]

🎶“You are a chILD of light” 🎶 17:24

[@Trickpants]

I'm crossing fingers for a collab between you and Cliccy one day - I need the chaos!

[@charlie8779]

Some of these parents should touch pillow battery amirite

[@leniraoliveira8412]

Lexi, our technology teacher

[@LettiKiss]

OMG Lexikitty under a Cliccykitty video!

[@thegaymer5560]

My 2 favorite people!!!! We need a collab 😂

[@oldgus01]

36:00 Come to think of it, hamsters are a great example. Motherly instinct for a hamster is "oh god, this giant predator that plays with me and feeds me is scary, I will eat all the babies BECAUSE I CAN MAKE MORE IF I SURVIVE!!!"

[@robertabarnhart6240]

Don't let your hamsters have babies. If nothing else, it can extend their lifespan some; since they're not wasting their energy making babies, they can put that energy into living longer.

[@RekiTheRyvian]

"Is the dragon also gay?" Man, I hope so or this is going to be really awkward

[@_the_voices_in_my_head_]

Honestly, the cut up onions really help with a closed nose. They make your eyes water and your nose run a bit, so you can clean your nose better. Really does help with a light cold over night!

[@sadmarcelinexx]

I always think my parents are more sane, then I realize my dad threatened to take me out of uni because I didn't do law (which is why I didn't tell him I got accepted for another course) and now he basically cut me off lmfao

[@BliffleSplick]

Some think respect means "treat like a human being" and some think respect means "treat like an authority". The problem comes from someone feeling they're not being respected as an authority so they refuse to respect the other as a human being.