Race between Jaguar I-Pace and Kia Soul EV

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[@Kryten428]

15:45 I don't mind sitting here and charging for a bit longer because I have a JAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG (in my best Jeremy Clarkson voice).

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

Bjorn and Pawel you guys are great love the video . And seeing you guys together. Lots of view so far. Bjorn great editing to combine the two.

[@skinnytony3029]

Thanks Björn (and Pawel). I have been watching your videos since you started Björn and have been wanting to buy an EV for many years but I didn't really like the look of any until the I-Pace came a long. I went for an hour long test drive last week and was so happy with it (and got 210wh for that hour drive) I just placed an order. Possibly the first guy in Finland with an I-Pace come March. Thanks for all your videos over the years buddy.

[@vedanthanwat7021]

Congrats

[@e-care-books9867]

This is a really fun video. Well done you guyz! Maybe I'm crazy but reminds me of the early days of gas-powered cars, all the crazy races, and rallies.

[@asiliauk]

Great video and fun to watch! Thank you both!

[@singularity70]

super video, awesome race .. thank you for the entertainment

[@vdivanov]

Very nice! Thanks for making it both informative and entertaining :)

[@luisfernandes4145]

Loved the i Pace, when there be super charging for it, it will be awsome! Great video!

[@timryan4518]

Great video y’all. It’s amazing that it was so close again. 2 excellent EV drivers.

[@SteveMorton]

Great work guys, great editing Bjørn a lot of hours of footage to sort out. But the more of these you do the more educating they are for the non-EV owner like myself. Bigger battery isn't always going to get there first!

[@tomooo2637]

To me it is about a "standard" journey where you don't have to charge so you can just drive and charge at home (on my solar panels in preference - the UK is joke with charging and the excess cost and stupid - money not accepted and 15 different cards/apps). The next thing is to charge during a lunch stop on a long journey, so you don't notice the problem of an hour stop. This video does show the importance of efficiency of the cars - and a efficient car can catch up over time as it goes further per kwh. For me then it is 300 miles as this solves the above for the journeys I do, but it comes down to personal lifestyle; in the UK the charging network is a joke due to the cost and multiple companies and lack of fast charging. So UK people have to work against the system.

[@thesmallrougeone]

Thanks Pawel and Bjørn! Always interesting when you compare cars from two different price brackets. 🤘

[@bentleymicah3480]

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[@jayceondean3768]

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[@LowOnCash]

Good Job guys fun to tag along! For us US guys always do the conversion to miles! Thanks

[@macronencer]

I'll be using a Kia Soul EV temporarily for about 3 or 4 months from December (in the UK) - after that my Kona arrives, yay! Slightly annoyed to hear that the Soul doesn't have intermittent wiper setting. Is that really true? WTH! Christmas trips are going to be interesting... Anyway, thank you so much guys, for putting in the massive effort to do these videos, it's really appreciated. It's quite rare for a video this long to hold my attention throughout, but this one (and the other one with Kona vs. Tesla) managed it just fine.

[@slartybartfarst9737]

Real world testing back to back no one else does this so well

[@vdivanov]

The iPace cat looks great with the aggressive winter paws :) So do the wheels on the Soul EV, not the most aerodynamic, but very classy.

[@robinrutschman]

Pawel is such Great companion!!

[@s9juvolzrebuilt984]

Audi E-tron vs. Renault Zoe pls! Will Zoe´s low consumption combined with 43 kW quick charger beat E-tron running on 50 kW CCS ? In 10°C and above for sure... lack of battery heating ruins Zoe´s performance in cold weather though...

[@evcardriver8556]

Good race guys, next one has to be Etron V Eqc !!!

[@tbyte007]

Pavel is true Eastern European - Adidas running suit ftw :)

[@PL-fh8cz]

Very good real world info thanks. I am wondering why you charge the vehicles with lights on? Surely that's draining the battery while charging, so that will increase the charging time. I have noticed the EU sport seats are different from the US sport seats. Also LED matrix lights aren't available?

[@davidsherman4337]

Hey Bjorn what seats do u like more in the Jaguar and which ones are more comfortable??? The sport seats or the regular leather??

[@mcopanzan]

Hey Byorn & Pawel, how about a iPace and a modelX 75, they should be even matched for range. Or a Kona/Niro vs Model3 mid range using CCS only, to see w one has better charge efficiency or are they so close it would just be tactics only?

[@unahaclosp]

Like the races, but maybe race loop around different part of Norway? Do the west coast?

[@LucifersTear]

The Jag I-pace is generally less efficient (power in / movement out) but when racing at night the aerodynamics is way better on the I pace. Interesting competition.

[@manolexing68]

Really fun race! Would love to see you and Powell do a similar race from Bangkok to Phuket. That’s a challenge right?

[@TravelwithPavel]

I would be interesting to see this now, when there are more Ionity chargers.

[@vhaakmat]

Bjorn, what app do you use to track the other guy?

[@FancyaBevMate]

Not relevant to the test but holy sheet this is one of the best reasons if you live in wet countries! Kia (I have owned four before the leaf) has best quietest window wipers period! I really miss my kias :( and kia UK after sale customer support. Nissan is garbage for helping :(

[@patriciadias3078]

Please, when you charge your batteries in the kia, how many kms can you do?

[@ScrapKing73]

I'd love it if you did this one again with a 64 KWh Soul EV! :-)

[@hendrikplumer6814]

Awesome, as usual!

[@FFVoyager]

Great race! I think a simple video to explain charging, range and the effect of vehicle choice to newbies would be very useful Bjorn. I get it, but explaining the concept to others is difficult!

[@paradigm3876]

great and entertaining vid thank you; if I may ...could you provide a summary of kms traveled, and then the electric power consumed by both vehicles; just for those of us looking to switch to the "green" side; just like you would do for say a petrol vehice vs diesel. In this comparison the I-pace seemed it was more like v6 engined car in terms of efficiency vs Kia ..of course Kia has smaller 'tank' but is more efficient. In the end or in the not too distant future free charging [or subsidised] may reduce which means it will be more of a consideration about running costs [payng for power consumed]. It would have been interesting to see how mant kWs each vehicle used for the kms of the journey.. if you have still have those numbers I'd appreciate it.

[@justjc51]

Will be interesting to see how things change when the new Kia Soul EV launches. Considering the great work Kia did on the e-Niro there is no doubt that the e-Soul will be a decent EV with a decent price and range, as well as more cargo capacity than the Kona.

[@Kryten428]

One thing I'm curious about. When you use these chargers do you pay so much per Kwh or is it a flat rate for each use irregardless of how much energy is used? Also how does the cost compare per km to a petrol or diesel car getting 50 mpg?

[@bjornnyland]

+Kryten428 It costs 2.5 NOK/minute. And it's cheaper than fossil fuel.

[@Johnwillbegone]

I am looking to buy my first ev. I'm thinking 2016 Nissan leaf or 2016 Kia Soul. The more I look..the more unsure I become. Any thoughts, opinions would be greatly appreciated. I have to make a decision soon.

[@niph670]

I have a 30kwh Soul ev and I use it for daily commute into London. Like all ev my miles/kwg is very efficienct for city driving. A lot of us 30kwh Soul ev owner are getting are getting around 6 miles/kwh driving normally without using hypermiling techniques. Thanks for showing me how to use the Soul for Motorway/Highway journeys.

[@michaelobermaier3890]

What we learn ? For long distance never mind if you have a small Battery or a large battery - smaller battery is smaller price 👍👍👍 Hope you make also a test with the Sion from Sono Motors end of the year ?

[@kkelroyy]

Do brake lights activate with regen braking/stopping?

[@falconhand]

yeah

[@nadeemahmed324]

I notice the Kia does not have the standard funny looking wheels with the "aerodynamic" plastic add on bits.. how much if any advantage do the standard wheels give the car?

[@idratherberiding3456]

Hey guys, let's collect some money, if we all find some change behind the cushions of our sofas, we will collectively have enough to help Bjorn get a new jacket. Just kidding, I appreciate that you are not a consumerist, actually! Great work guys! I'm ready for the next race.

[@bjornnyland]

+I'd rather be riding What's wrong with my jacket?

[@idratherberiding3456]

Nothing really. Thank you for connecting, love your videos.

[@idratherberiding3456]

"Consumerism is a social and economic order that encourages the acquisition of goods and services in ever-increasing amounts."

[@JohnDoe-vx3z]

10:45 type 2 discharge 😂

You should clearly follow his livestreams :P kzbin.info

[@craigbrown5667]

Bigger battery not so big an advantage then. I love my 30kWh Leaf :)

Not on a 1000km trip with a car that thirsty, no. But I-Pace would be faster if the trip was shorter, and/or there were ultra fast chargers on the route.

[@TheRealChristoffer]

Your leaf would be ALOT slow er in this race because og rapid gate and hot battery

[@travelguy78]

@@TheRealChristoffer 30kwh Leaf? Not so much Rapidgate there

[@TheRealChristoffer]

@@travelguy78 yes there is.

[@larsoleruben]

@@TheRealChristoffer No there isn't

[@strahlberger]

Damn, I wasted my Popcorn already on Harry Potter! :-(

[@TBasianeyes]

eTron videos coming? :)

[@Trades46]

Pawel is able to get the I-Pace down to a staggering 20 kWh/100km. That takes skill. The Jag however less efficient is definitely the car I pick.

[@arenjay3278]

You should do an I-Pace vs E-Tron race.

[@daviddrake7003]

Thanks Bjorn for letting me know that. I do not like a manufacturer telling me how to use my car. For instance when level 2 charging on my 2017 Bolt, i watch movies and video clips. GM has an update for the infotainment system that eliminates that feature. No one told me from Chevy. I found out about it through forums and YT. I have not updated it yet for that reason. So far I see all other newer Bolts have the same infotainment update or higher and no change. I see no other manufacturer of electric cars that allow you to watch movies and video clips on the main screen. Am I right? Kia is out. My Bolt allows me to charge to 100% although very slow above 95%.

[@ekhaat]

Nice race. I think you are wrong about the Kia not having heat scavenging. According to the specialist at Kia Danmark it uses heat from all heat sources to heat up the cabin.

[@DoubleG0475]

Kia Soul can also use the heat waste from engine, ac charger and inverter.

[@zoli57]

Someone should make an app to optimize these longer trips based on the car, distance, possible charging speed, cost of charging, etc.. It would tell the driver how fast to drive and where/how much to charge the car to be the fastest.

[@radosawmoskal324]

www.abetterrouteplanner.com

[@spiritmorin]

Very nice video. Thank you. And good choice for a match. And I also unplugged at 82% (SoulEv 2016 27kwh).😀

[@fergus247]

hey bjørn i enjoy your videos and i am learning alot. but can you give a recap of why you are into electric vehicles? can you make a comparison to fossil fuel cars and perhaps give us your take on why or why not electric cars are going to be future? thanks!

[@gurmeharbajwa6020]

quick question, would you rather have the 2018 BMW i8 or 2018 Soul EV?

[@markjennings2315]

Soul EV. If I had a BMW no one would let me pull out of side roads. I'd be found dead at the wheel, blocking the junction from starvation and being unloved... LOL

[@niph670]

@@markjennings2315 :) Sad but true. I have a 30kw Soul and I wouldn't swap if for a 94ah i3 or the Jag. My weekly commute is 120 miles, and I only have to charge once a week. I average 5.9 miles / kwh and 160miles range in Summer. BMW i3 would need a sail to get that.

[@ucosmonauta4762]

Great work Bjørn. I have an iPace and twice I got tap av fremdrift, did you get some issues concerning this? Have you had a similar problem? The assistance does not have an answer, only towing the car, so I had to wait some minutes, locking and unlocking the car until it was ok to drive. Let me know if you get an answer from them, because they where not very helpful both from car stand and phone assistance. Gratulerer med kanalen på youtube.

[@bjornnyland]

I heard about that. Sounds like software bug.

[@francisgaliegue6645]

@10:42, restroom for "Type 2 discharge"... I had to pause the video due to uncontrollable laughter :p

[@michaelgoode4104]

Should have used a Kona or have I missed that one? A Kona would surely beat the less efficient iPace.

[@TheNick70nick]

Pawel 🤣😂👍🏻 Björn too ...🤙👋

[@RideSmoothTV]

Grabbed my dinner and press play. Btw, Jaguar is owned by Tata, which is an company based in India

[@merzto]

who cares, the car is neither designed nor build in india.

[@frrrtula_]

Awwwww shieeeet Bjørn why at this time.

[@SripalTAD]

Jag ipace vs Kia niro or Kona ev race will be interesting to watch

Kona or Niro will win big time

[@kaigo8463]

Are there no chargers faster than 50kW in Norway? I guess you usually want faster charging with the i-Pace. that is why it has the capability.

[@bjornnyland]

Plenty

[@kaigo8463]

@@bjornnyland OK. Then why didn't Pawel use faster chargers? He could have been easily 1h faster. Was this a rule to only use 50kW chargers to give the Kia a chance? Or were there simply ne faster chargers on the route?

[@mannygee005]

if I can only do Level 2 charging I can't do long trips like this can I? Bjorn inspires me to take longer trip than I normally would do.

[@mannygee005]

I think it's okay to let the Jaguar win this one but the Kia is so much less expensive that it is more accessible to more people.

[@louishenn3028]

Were you only using 50kw chargers? If it was 100kw the I-Pace will have a big advantage

[@bjornnyland]

+Louis Henn Soul also supports 100 kW charging.

[@louishenn3028]

@@bjornnyland yes but as far as I know Soul will only take up to 70kw while Jag will take the full 100kw. Or does Soul also take full 100kw?

[@nikkytheawesome7556]

Wow you compressed the videos a looooooot

[@SM-hc2nz]

no matter what love the Jag I-Pace, it is gonna get so much better after the next update...it is clearly a much better car in the luxury car department especially compared to E-tron

[@rowenagrinsam8261]

For the next race I suggest that both cars carry full load of passengers.

[@hayder.e8812]

Hi everyone, I'm traveling to Europe within two months, due to the gas prices, I'm planning to rent an EV car in Brussels mostly. I don't have any idea about the charging cost or charging stations availability in Belgium specifically or in whole Europe generally.

[@jeremy1548]

Really interested to know how much you pay for standard 50 kW charging in Norway at say Fortnum. Is is a subscription scheme or Pay per kWh. Rapid charging in the UK is 25p to 35p per kWh but some companies charge £1 connection fees which make it prohibitive. Then Polar has a membership scheme of about £100 per year and the rapid cost becomes 10.2p per kWh or free at some locations.

[@elmarjakuszeit2063]

Zwei wie Pech und Schwefel 👍👍👍👍🚘🚘🚘🚘

[@tsogtamar8218]

I'm just wondering why don't you switch off the headlights while you're charging her, that effects badly for the charging efficiency!

[@bjornnyland]

+Tsogt Amar nope

[@ramblerandy2397]

Why do I think that Bjorn wants to say something stronger than 'what the heck?' 😁

[@timryan4518]

Rambler Andy if u haven’t noticed he does cuss sometimes. I think he says what he wants. He states often it isn’t a family channel and he will have language and sexual innuendos. Sorry for long reply figured u may not know

[@ramblerandy2397]

@@timryan4518 Yes. I was being sarcastic. 😁

[@timryan4518]

Rambler Andy sweet

[@jerrypatel6241]

Yes Jaguar Land Rover, part of Tata Motors

[@ramblerandy2397]

I think the burning question is - what is the Tesla charging experience, right now, against the non-Tesla experience, in Europe?

Tesla's network is far superior right now. If you don't have a Tesla, you need to first figure out which networks you need to order RFID's to depending on which countries you're going to. There's no universal paying standard. Furthermore, most locations only have one charger. So you always have to keep in mind backup options. But of course, that largely depends on where in Europe.

[@OLavLUff]

For en lyd ladestasjonan lage!! Jesus🔊🔊🔊

[@quiditvrai6670]

Except for confort , kia Soul give far more for the money considering the price to buy.

[@AWildBard]

That noise is kind of annoying. Is it not so bad in real life? I hope they can fix that.

[@jrnhagen5621]

I want a new run between Jaguar I-pace and the new Kia e-Soul 64 kwh :-)

[@DanielSadjadian]

The Jaguar I-PACE looks so good.

[@Trades46]

I agree. I don't roadtrip often so 350km is more than enough range. Outside of its EV status, it is just a really nice car - Jaguar interior quality/design is absolutely beautiful & sound-deadening even makes Mercedes or Lexus feel loud.

[@kasmopaya2676]

Show me in the video when Pawel was able to drive 350km.(fast charge to fast charge location) I have a much lower range in mind then you.

[@Trades46]

@@kasmopaya2676 they were going mostly highway with little stop and go. A more mixed drive & more agreeable weather/temperature would easily get you 350km.

[@gerbre1]

Bjørn, 94% is not a bug it‘s still a feature.

[@bjornnyland]

Yes, I never claimed it was a bug.

[@kasmopaya2676]

So the Jaaaag has about 200km fast travel range(sweetspot range) and the Kia has about 100+km.

[@bjornnyland]

250 km for I-Pace and 100-120 km on Soul.

[@torqueroll1]

Jeez. That high pitch noise from the Tritium charger is super annoying. 😂

[@reijerkok6136]

Almost no 100 kW+ chargers in Norway, isn't it?

Yep. Only 50 kW chargers on this route

[@reijerkok6136]

That looks strange for me with one of the leading EV countries in the world. In the Netherlands we've already 15-20 locations with 175 kW charging.

[@esunisen3862]

I can haz croissant instead of popcorn ? Pweez ?

[@esunisen3862]

France stronk ! Shiiiieeeeeet, panzer ! Ruuuuun !

[@MrVegasoul]

How the race could be equal with 3 times bigger battery and 3 time more expensive car i-pace? Once the race start at empty energy charge, Soul is going to be the winner. I believe CD factor of i-pace should be much better than Soul, then why the energy efficiency is so poor compared with Soul?

[@merzto]

recap at 1:09:50

[@thomasj2187]

What's the next race? Can you do a Model 3 against something soon?

[@bjornnyland]

+thomasj2187 Model 3 is not out in Europe yet.

[@banepigeon]

Jaguar is British but is owned by Tata (Indian)… Landrover Jaguar group

[@jatinsahoo458]

Yes bro.... JLR ( Jaguar Land Rover) is owned by TATA which is an Indian Company...!!!

[@poplaurentiu4148]

So what ? Owning share holders in a different company is usually banking stuff, stock actions have nothing to do with the machines & workers, those are same only CEO maybe changed but quality of products has not changed..

[@Mafiaboss0088]

Yes the jag are owned by tata motors...... Indian company..... Jag and land rover both

[@loganrossignol]

Wow, those wheels make the ipace look just awful

[@dhakechavishal7178]

Jaguar is India owned company Bjorn.

[@bjornnyland]

I already said that in the video.

[@DanaVastman]

Come on, guys... this is a pretty stupid comparison...then again, pretty amazing the lovely Soul was neck and neck! When they come OUT with the new bigger battery, iPace is gonna look really bad! 3 Souls for the price of 1 iPace? Wow!

[@TayebMC]

Depends if you are buying a battery or a car. I drive a very efficient car but I know people who drive cars with 4 or 5 times as much consumption. It is not just the economy that counts. I prefer the iPace.

[@MrVegasoul]

Soul 2019 model is going to load 40kwh and 64kwh battery.

[@BulletSpoung]

You should have tricked him and swapped your KIA Soul for a gas powered one in the same color. Why do you have your headlights on wile you're charging?

[@harry6668]

If the race gets longer, the Kia will win.

[@MiccaPhone]

what was the race distance here?

[@Kevinchong18]

you should do one with tesla model 3 vs the Chevrolet bolt! you will really show all the fud out there what a tesla killer the bolt really is! not!...lol

[@magnusolert1195]

The more EV-videos I watch the more I get convinced that EVs can't compete with fuel powered cars. With my old Saab 9-3 I often drive more than 700 km before refueling (and then I probably have 100 km margin to empty). And I fill it up in a minute; not in an hour.

[@bjornnyland]

+Magnus Olert You should try Model S 100D.

[@magnusolert1195]

I would love to do that! Also the Model 3 and Jaguar I-pace seems to be amazing cars to drive. But none of them can compete with any fuel powered car when it comes to range and recharge/refuel time.

[@magnusolert1195]

I filled up my car today. It took 85 seconds. That means I get about 7 to 8 km range for each second of refueling. How many km range per second charging do you get with a Tesla Model S100D? Of course, if you don't travel more than the range of your EV each day and have the opportunity to recharge during night where you park than it is no problem. But if that is not the case an EV is not a good choice.

[@kardy12]

Magnus Olert 700km before stopping? Please tell me what roads you drive on so i can avoid them like the plague. The last thing i want is to be on the same road as someone who thinks its sensible to pride himself on ridiculously long drives without any break or rest.

[@wadiwadi8913]

Wow 💋 i like electric car's but im at south Africa

[@snatch2236]

Kia Soul is for sure the coolest and one of the most efficience car on the EV-market! What a shame for Jaguar when you have a 3times bigger Akku and can not go faster

[@reviewerbibhuti5100]

Because kia not use comfy not more gadgets 😁