Tesla Model Y RWD 1000 km challenge

[@geposy]

Great video. I would suggest a column for the number of stops/charge performed during the test for each car.

[@danielstoicamusic]

Great idea!

[@dragospahontu]

It is irrelevant

[@Blasterxp]

Total energy used & price

[@KennethBDone]

I got my Y RWD just this morning. Enjoying your hard work, Bjorn!

[@Blasterxp]

Enjoy, welcome to Tesla

[@UK-Cycling]

Thanks Bjørn, what great value that Y standard range is. Best regards Martin

[@latlak]

Love the dashcam clips with the beautiful sunrise and perfect travelling music. Your videos always make wanna go on a trip myself.

[@byddar]

I've just gotten the "Poor Man's Model Y" aka the RWD myself a week ago :) Nice to know that even though it have the smaller battery, it can do long trips very well (which I do more in the summer, so the hit on range from winter with a LFP battery is not much of an issue)

[@14energy]

Great test, RWD MY looks like a no-brainer amongst this price range

[@FrankNolf]

great result for what is a pretty big car with a relatively small battery. Just shows that you don't need a big battery pack to be a good road tripper.

[@timogronroos4642]

Model Y AWD with around 70kWh BYD Blade battery would be my dream setup. I hope future LR version would be like that

[@Bessunger]

Great package, the MY RWD. Thanks for presenting!

[@StefanHPetkov]

Mine is on the 19" Gemini wheels and caps with Hankook tires and consumes around 190-200wh/km when driven at 110-120 km/h

[@AnthonyWoodruffe]

Had my MY for about 3 weeks now and I am surprised how quiet it is. My 2019 m3 sounded like I was in a wind tunnel on the autobahn. Thus new car is really really quiet

[@rossirvine8998]

Cheers again for the video; always informative while being entertaining

[@thesiperke]

Good video. I'm currently on the fence between RWD and LR. Really going back and forth between the two.

[@johannesdolch]

You driving music is impeccable. Do you have a link to these songs?

[@doctoringdownunder]

I love your consumption, you just hammer it compared to us here in Australia. Everyone sticks to 110kph and very few speed. Thus 110km/h in the MIC MY yields 165wh/km as per 'Twins and Toddler in A Tesla' did in the Australian Range Test

[@mljbz]

Yep all road works and speed cameras in Australia, sad as it is it's grate for range, can get 140wh/km out of M3 RWD on some road trips.

[@ryankassel5691]

Awesome. I’d love to see a summer test with the Model 3 LFP

[@KapitanBombaKopa]

So exciting! I've just ordered the same Standard on 20'

[@v0idgrim]

2023 model got better soundproofing for sure. It has doubled glass all around and also a shelf in the back to minimise the road sound coming from the back axel into the cabin.

[@flowntn1989]

Bjorn, please explain the discrepancy with the 3 SR+. Looking at the opening shots, this has the 20in wheels which could explain at least some if not all the discrepancy (assuming the M3 was on 19in).

[@patrickmcgrail4613]

Good video. Interesting that it can do it quit well and The New SR Y is Even faster in charging.

[@BBKing-yh3gn]

Please do 0% test with this car. Motor’s elbiltest showed that their Model Y RWD only drove 13 km after 0 %. Your test with Model 3 RWD drove around 60km below 0%. Interested in seeing this repeated with this Model Y as the two other mentioned results are so different from each other

[@hardywoodaway9912]

that’s the problem with lfp, the battery management doesn’t know exactly how much is left. you can have very different results with the same car. so the test is kinda irrelevant

[@bilgyno1]

There is little practical relevance in that buffer, because you will always charge up before getting down to 0%. Björn ending up with 0% in this 1000 km challenge is not really how you would drive this car. But anyway, the S3XY app on my car reads 2.7 kWh buffer, which can be as little as 10-15 km (140 km/h) or as much as 30 km (50 km/h country roads very frugal driving).

[@Marki555]

@@bilgyno1 Also the buffer is not constant. When the BMS is not sure about SoC, it will increase the buffer (so that it can guarantee the car will not shut off with few percents still remaining). On my TM3 LFP I have seen buffer as big as 5.5 kWh and then it went down to the usual 2.25 kWh. The buffer is how much capacity the BMS thinks the battery still has. But it can be wrong, so you shouldn't depend on it.

[@AAb-xy6et]

23:09 So the RWD uses more Wh/km then the Performance? Or is that really all because of the temperature?

[@johnjing2551]

Model Y made in Shanghai after January 2023 has the new improved suspension. Maybe that's one reason it's quieter. Also people say it's softer than before.

[@QwertyGuy365]

it is. Got 1 myself.

[@Blasterxp]

Wish to add it to my model 3!

[@nazimulucay3137]

Great video. Can you charging times to the table?

[@zale76]

Great result! How are you calculating balance between consumption and travelling speed or you just try to go 10% over limit? TM3 SR had significantly lower consumption and same time.

[@zale76]

@@Arpedk Well, I had TMYLR for a week and traveled 1400 km. AVG consumption was around 170 Wh/km at speed 110 km/h for the most of the trip. I created calculation for 1000 km challenge in excel where sweet spot for TMY seems to be the 125 km/h (604min @ 120, 598 min @ 125, 601 min @ 130) when charging 10-80%.

[@asaltvik]

I was driving a E-Tron Sportsback recently, and was expecting very low noice levels. But I was surprised that it felt just like my TMYLR '23. It was also more cramped, smaller trunk, ancient infotainment and less power. But on the other hand, the consumption and price was the doubled compared to TMYLR.

[@MrKlawUK]

Good to see more reviews coming for the Y RWD. I'm buying one next week so bad timing I can't wait for a full suite of tests - but Il'l still watch them

[@TheArminOF]

Danke!

[@bjornnyland]

Thank you for the support. You just paid for 20 km of driving 🤣

[@TheArminOF]

@@bjornnyland I thought you would prefer this double hot dog at circle K after so many salads in a row 😀

[@philipperapaccioli2868]

Would be nice to have the price of each car on the excel chart in k NOK. The viewer can divide by 10 and get a rough idea of the price in EUR or USD. As always, great review. Thanks for the great insights.

[@s.kxx1956]

Yes the michelins 20s have foam. Mine does anyway

[@dd4321]

Interesting the Model Y RWD is ‘thirstier’ than LR and Perf 🤔

[@Alex-ek5fb]

Average temperature for those was 17 and 20 C, so almost perfect. In this test it was only 10 C. The Y has a heatpump, but there will still be a difference e.g. the preconditioning of the battery that he was talking about in the video.

[@Scrap-press]

Hey Bjørn is it possible to do some degradation tests of M3 SR with nmc batteries? I suspect a lot of them will hit the market soon because of Highland launch.

[@jussikoskela9850]

Hi Björn, thank you for informative videos. Especially these 1000 km tests are super👍 My question is that could it be possible for you to test Model Y RWD made in Germany. It has the BYD-battery instead of CATL and it charges way better. The 1000 km time for MY RWD MIG could be a lot better than MIC.

[@joraku]

Awesome performance! Nice video, as always!

[@73henny]

12:30 it did hit 170kw. 173 in fact.

[@LePerlashez]

Thanks for sharing this road trip experience. I am bit surprised by your consumption figures, because I am getting 18.8 kWh/100 with my TMY RWD when driving on the highway at speed limits, which is 130 kmh here.

[@robinray692]

Wheels make a huge difference not to mention hills and incline

[@anhpham8577]

Bjorn, what is better in terms of charging costs and speed at Ionity versus Superchargers?

[@bearasta]

@Bjorn, how do you explain the difference of wh/km between TMY RWD and TM3SR+ 2021, with almost the same battery and 09h55 spent in 1000 km test?

[@doctoringdownunder]

Perhaps better charging, such as he ran it deeper and rode the 170kW longer

[@JobBorn86]

Might have something to do with speed as his passport was covering the speed 😆

[@andrefesus1119]

Hi! Without prekondition 3 minits more pro charging, but avg 8kw can save!

[@switchtoelectric]

Great video mate 🎉🎉🎉 best car value for money 💪🏻💪🏻

[@evchargerreviewsnet]

I suspect the noise improvement is mostly down to tires. My 20 inch wheels came with Goodyears from Fremont and i upgraded to Michelin later and noticed a better and less noisy ride.

[@patrickmcgrail4613]

Do you have a Ninja way to test Fisker Ocean? Really looking forward to that test as well.

[@bjornnyland]

No

[@flowntn1989]

You sounded surprised at the consumption figure, 236wh/km as was I given that is 22% down on the Model3 SR+MIC. But then I get significantly better economy on my M3 SR+MIC than you get, around 140-160 wh/km and that’s with AC on 25+c.

[@Blasterxp]

Yeah, but his speed is also high. 205kwh for 110kmh? Or 139kwh at 100kmh for model 3

[@uktechie8013]

Happy with mine also

[@alexsanchoss]

What is the best way to charge the MY LR to prevent degradation? Just follow 20-80%?

[@bjornnyland]

Yes

[@efen88]

Yep. Slower is better. Closes to 50% is better. Only remember that BMS have hard time to know SoC in cycle without 100%. Becouse od that it's recommended to some times hit slow 100% so it can better know SoC. If you don't do this at lease 1 in 6m your SoC can drop fast under 20%. BMC don't know SoC, it od able to know Volt of cell and calculate amount of transfered energy.

[@alexsanchoss]

@@bjornnyland thank you)

[@marcohillenga5068]

Modern BMS know it very exactly, balancing is continuous and won’t need 100%, the old NiMC (Toyota Hybrid) batteries do need it.

[@alexsanchoss]

@@efen88 thank you )

[@frederiekdemeyer4956]

Hi Björn, when your battery is at 100%, can you tap once at the 100% to see what the range (km) is that Tesla indicates at 100%. Would be interesting to compare when you'll do the sunday driving test. Thanks for the video's, you made me have my own Model Y RWD; Kr. F.

[@davidva6126]

Hi, I have a MY RWD with the 20' Wheels. It indicates 389 km at 100%. With the standard 19', that would be 418 km. At 5500km, I now have an average of 147wh /km. Mix of highway (at 120 km/h) and other roads at 50-70 km/h. I just love the car.

[@frederiekdemeyer4956]

Hi David, thank you very much for this answer. Mine had already 11 000 km and the 418 km makes perfectly sense. Ps. I like to ride the Model Y too; a perfect built 👍. Kr. F.

[@babyganga8786]

Why is the usage so high? Were suppose to be getting 150 W/km toget 400km on a 60 kw battery. Thats very high consumption.

[@Korruptor711]

great test and this is what I'd love to buy for early next year. Hopefully it becomes available in the USA by then. I'm planning a 5000 km trip next year and this would make for a great EV road trip.

[@jebes909090]

ev's dont make for great road trips

[@wavesnowaves]

Volvo XC30: Hold my beer.

[@nickieredshaw7835]

Great video as always ! Red one of these or long range is the only replacement for our 3 , tesla’s are great evs !

[@dutchbavarian]

Hey Björn, pretty cool video - thanks! A question, why don't you do the software update before you do a trip? Just to make sure you have the latest, greatest? I noticed you cancelled the update message each time.

[@bjornnyland]

Takes too long time.

[@claeshaglund207]

Would be very interesting to see a 1000 km Challenge with the I4 Drive40 and one with the EQE 300/350 RWD. Should probably end up in the top five or so.

[@geraldsitorus]

He did e40, it is slower than the Model 3 Performance.

[@claeshaglund207]

@@geraldsitorus My bad. To far up the list to be visible in the list in this video. 👍 EQE RWD remains a strong candidate.

[@TheLastMoccasin]

Bjorn, please test Michelin Pilot Sport EV tires head to head vs. other tires for efficency and noise levels!!! Same car, same rims!

[@ora10053]

Why avg consumption is higher than on Y LR and Y Performance? Iirc M3 RWD has the lowest of all 3s.

[@dragospahontu]

Tires make a big difference.

[@donphobos]

Göteborg always delivers with chaos. It is the worst city traffic wise probably even without construction work. But now they have been digging hard, like crazy and you have to take a sightseeing tour anywhere you might fancy.

[@fredrik-wendt]

At least it's been cheap, and the end result is going to blow everyone's mind. Or not. X-)

[@mjmellock]

Would you suggest this car for winter in Norway? Our winters are similar.

[@linnsoltwedel]

I wanted the Model 3 AWD, but I want kids very soon, so would you suggest the Y RWD over the Model 3 AWD? Would be nice with the AWD on the Model 3, but only once the last three years have my Toyota Auris not been able to drive up a road when snowing, and that was because their had been no plowing.

[@bjornnyland]

Yes, with small babies you need lots of cargo space.

[@Marki555]

@@bjornnyland As all my colleagues who have switched to bigger cars due to more babies say - it doesn't matter how big car you have, you will always fill it completely :) With bigger car, you just pack more "just in case" things.

[@05khanha]

Such a difference from consumption in Thailand.

[@noosestroke]

what would be the best App/Charging card for a Tesla owner who visits Norway for Vacation and needs backup charging option for rural areas in Norway where there are fewer Superchargers? (we mainly plan to charge on superchargers)

[@DavidTran-hf3hn]

Can you make a video on how to charge to prevent battery degradation ?

[@bjornnyland]

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[@nakfan]

380,000 DKK is still the poor man's dream - for me at least 😔

[@rampantradio8199]

Can you repeat this test with the factory 19" wheels? They are more efficient so it will probably be even faster.

[@scottmccann4509]

Bjorn have you noticed any significant differences with the newer 4680 batteries vs the old? or it's really down to the motors, as compared to the AWD last year the RWD used more energy to do 1000km when it's supposed to be more efficient. It was 10 degrees colder on average

[@bjornnyland]

These are not 4680 cells.

[@scottmccann4509]

@@bjornnyland Ahhhhh ok sorry my mistake, i look forward to future testing.

[@serhiim534]

Thank!

[@tomascermak9205]

Deep and deeper....

[@lesbendo6363]

A new test for you. Take this RWD Model 3 and do a range test using the same car with different size wheels and different tires to compare range. 🇨🇦

[@GManPT]

@Bjorn, - Heads-up that first map is bugged :/

[@bjornnyland]

Shieeet. A classic edit error.

[@marcsimmonds5483]

Since I bought this car I have stopped looking at videos relating to other cars. Never mind a poor man's Tesla, how many people actually need a bigger battery?

[@dragospahontu]

It's always good to have more battery, but lfp is clearly better. For an extra 100km of range & AWD, I don't think it's worth the price difference.

[@ungallegoenmunich]

Seems like the consumption is too high... altough the 1000km mark is pretty good

[@nshon7]

For us in RHD countries it is the *only* choice

[@MR-hb9xk]

One thing that strikes me about Tesla cars is that you need to be aware of where and when your car is manufactured, in order to get softer suspension or a specific type of battery as examples. This is not the case for other car makers but maybe not something that the average Tesla buyer is concerned with.

[@bjornnyland]

Not really. All latest Teslas have better suspension and soundproofing.

[@tonyt2508]

No more Mister Green

[@bjornnyland]

Korrekt

[@xdellavedova]

which tesla has the new LMFP lifepo4 batteries? and other brands with these new batteries?

[@esaedvik]

At least Ford is building a factory with CATL's tech to produce these as well. BYD also uses them.

[@BadNuunuu]

In my Tesla3 my autopilot have problems to change the speed when it goes up or down. Sometimes it just keep going same speed and i need to turn autopilot on/off or just manully correct the speed. Is it suppose to work like that?

[@doctoringdownunder]

If you start on Autopilot in an 80kph zone, you need to 'authorise' the car to travel faster once you enter a higher speed/100kph zone. You do this by either touching the littel speed sign on the screen or holding down the right stalk for 1-2 seconds.

[@BadNuunuu]

@@doctoringdownunder Hey thanks for this. But how to do it if i start in an 100kph zone and then it drops to 80? It wont change that always by its self. And sometimes it do slow down and after 5sec speed back upto 100 even tho im still in the 80kph zone

[@adamkada8901]

How come it has better consumption than Model Y RWD? It is a bigger car... Is it the new - more efficient drive unit?

[@linnsoltwedel]

Is Ionety cheaper than Tesla?

[@DG-uv3zw]

And a premium sound package that comes as standard! 😱

[@pegefounder]

Since years, I think to purchase a Tesla Y. Now I think this one is really good enough.

[@DeividTT]

I previously owned a Model X 100D, 4 years and almost 100.000km. I trade it with a Model Y RWD last December, and I have to say that this car is amazing... it's more than enough for most of the people, but of course, range anxiety pushes always to go for bigger batteries. IMHO, this battery size is almost perfect. It's light, it charges very quick because it's small and it's safe. I just miss a bit of extra space compared to the Model X and some punch on the 0-50 km/h. I'm sure is a performance software limitation. Once is rolling the acceleration is ok, but starting from 0 km/h it's not that fast. I wish Tesla would launch an update uncorking the Model Y RWD on the 0-100 km/h.

[@pegefounder]

@@DeividTT There are restrictions on the deduction of VAT for companies in Austria. Full input tax deduction only up to € 40,000, no more from € 80,000. This Tesla Y in Austria € 45,870. So 87% of the VAT deductible. I was shocked by the tire prices beyond €200. Currently driving Dacia Lodgy and there a winter tire costs 50 €.

[@rera7701]

Is this the same one that just came to the United States market?

[@DG-uv3zw]

Too bad it wasn`t hotter. It would be maybe even 10min faster... This run was cold for summer test...

[@kutrix2010]

yes, temp, wind and most of all 20 inch rims make it difficult to compare this run to MY LR. Definitely consumption was above what I get from my MY RWD on 19".

[@Halis505]

Hi Bjorn.. I think you have to increase test speed of the cars 120 and 140 km/hr.. We generally don't drive our cars at 90 km/hr at the highways..

[@TheArminOF]

It’s about average speed. Avg on highway between 90 - 120 km/h is very realistic, so this test makes sense imo.

[@dragospahontu]

​@@TheArminOF bro who drives 90km/h on the highway. 110km/h minimum on the highway.

[@bjornnyland]

90 km/h is still going to be tested as it's very realistic.

[@TheArminOF]

@@dragospahontu you understand the word „average“ do you? Try doing 90 km/h average in rush hour in a metropolitan area and then come back again 🙄

[@dragospahontu]

@@TheArminOF i mean most people go schnell on the highway in order to make up for the difference.

[@electriccarstv]

This is the version with an accumulator of 58kWh of usable energy. The BYD battery version is not yet available.

[@wgemini4422]

Wow, that efficiency is horrible. That's only 2.63miles/1kwh? That can't be right. And why so much worse than LR? Just because the temperature differences?

[@tablecraft2426]

With my Model 3 RWD LFP 50 kWh and I get over 100 kW at 50 %, so I feel like the new battery is a step down.

[@tablecraft2426]

You can ask for park distance control 😂

[@pauli2753]

Still waiting for an efficiency test / 1000km challenge with the most efficient VW group SUV, enyaq 60 RWD with the smallest stock rims. You've tested this car already twice and claim that it is the fastest by optimizing the driving to the max.

[@Talaxianer]

Poor Man's Tesla Price: 45 000 €

[@megapet777]

well the model s plaid is like 140k

[@Lascarnn]

@@MrGoogle87 It's not super if you even don't have blind spot indicators in mirrors, and dozen of other features, which most of new cars have nowadays :)

[@garyanderton]

@@Lascarnn You have a camera on screen that shows your blindspot, haven't seen any other brand outside of Audi doing that. You also get corrective steering if you are changing lanes while someone is in your blindspot + chimes.

[@Lascarnn]

@@garyanderton I had blindpot indicators in the mirrors for years (in Kia), I really cannot imagine how nowadays you can have car without it. Screen is much less useful because most often you look in the mirror in this scenario. Chimes is not helpful when you listen to load music or talking. But of course, if someone don't mind, it's their wish. For me it's standard, as many other features like Carplay, light above back seat, ventilated seats, adjustable headrests, physical controls, etc.

[@garyanderton]

@@Lascarnn I have a blind spot indicator in the mirror of my Mustang Mach E, yet I find myself looking at the screen because the blind spot streaming in the Tesla is simply better. More cars should use it, also less cost if you are unlucky enough to mess up your mirror.

[@JustPeaceLoveAndKindness]

Can you consider putting+ together a list of recommendations for various car you’ve done challenges for. Let us know how the best/fastest charging strategies we can use. Thanks!!

[@pavelblaha5243]

Surprisingly high consumption.

[@janm.5031]

Maybe because of the temperature? Especially compared to the tests of the MY LR and MY P.

[@Anonymouslyme1]

20” wheels, my wife has the same car with 19” aero wheels and its great

[@pavelblaha5243]

@@janm.5031 maybe due to inaccurate SoC measurement of the LFP battery (?)

[@janm.5031]

@@pavelblaha5243 sure, that could also be a reason. I was also a bit surprised to see it. However, compared to many other electric cars it is still a very good consumption.

[@maartenvanbavel2673]

maybe because of the preheating?

[@stefanduhovnicu4469]

Great video and content Bjorn. But maybe you consider not naming the base tesla as poor man tesla. I have one and I don't consider myself poor. This is the most efficient tesla, that's another perspective. Think about it!

[@LHNguyens]

LR is more efficient

[@dragospahontu]

​@@LHNguyens how?

[@codrin1041]

120 + VAT 🤣

[@christianurban]

Here in Germany it probably wouldn’t make that much sense to stop so often for charging, because many times the detours from the Autobahn to the chargers are quite long on normal days. So I guess the time difference between the Model Y LR and the RWD would be bigger in normal conditions. Therefore I would always prefer the Long Range over the RWD if you drive long distances regularly.

[@AnotherAmateurCarChannel]

all the superchargers are literally a few minutes of the autobahn... and is 10k euros really worth 80-90 more km of range?

[@dragospahontu]

So lfp is still better

[@KayvonJavid]

What’s your salad recipe?

[@Clearphish]

Rather than trying to figure out whether it's night or morning, we just say that it's 3 AM.

[@bjornnyland]

We don't use AM/PM in Europe.

[@Clearphish]

​@@bjornnyland I think you are translating from Norwegian. In both Britain and North America, it's 3 am or 3 in the morning. 😃 But then again, The English have a hard time believing that they are European.

[@phosisavanhboulom8465]

👍👍👍

[@hmsq82]

Not sure you can call a Tesla a poor man's car...at that price!

[@Elektroauto1984]

The new byd SR from Berlin would be faster than the LR 😮

[@audunskilbrei8279]

Does the BYD battery charge faster?

[@BrunoXarope]

@@audunskilbrei8279 It should, but lets wait for the real world tests!

[@Elektroauto1984]

@@BrunoXarope there is many test already and someone I know got one. it is only 21min to 80% plus much faster to 60%

[@FrankNolf]

@@audunskilbrei8279 yeah, there are some test out there, it is a charging beast if the results are true

[@Bundynational]

9999 !! 😅

[@schunkelndedschunke6914]

Realistic tests should be driven like normal users. That means not down to 0% or 3% SOC. Minimum 10% SOC.

[@bjornnyland]

As if I have never gone deep in other cars before. It's just suddenly now that some people start complaining... lol

[@dalex6641]

I consider myself a normal user and have gone under 10% SOC many times on long trips

[@schunkelndedschunke6914]

@@dalex6641 You are a advanced user. It depends on how big the battery is. On small batteries 10% SOC is next to nothing. On 70kWh+ batteries 10% SOC you can live with it very well.

[@schunkelndedschunke6914]

@@bjornnyland Its your cannel, so its up to you how to deal with your tests but when new BEV drivers start thinking its no big deal to go down to 0% SOC they will see badly what happens even when they are reaching the next 50kW stand alone power station and than its not working.