Race Realism - Destiny Talks with PhD Researcher

[@Haywire5714]

Destiny got destroyed in this friendly low stress discussion about race realism

[@pragersmasher5788]

bait

[@fightfannerd2078]

@@pragersmasher5788 race realism is fact of life

[@amuroray9115]

@@fightfannerd2078 you have no life and nothing else to say. Facts don’t care about your feelings. Keep spamming like a lowlife.

[@pragersmasher5788]

@@fightfannerd2078 usually when someone says something is a fact of life, they have literally no evidence to back it up.

[@IllD.]

@@pragersmasher5788 B8

[@Swishead]

It was good to see this guy break into his stride after a while, he fumbled on his words a bit at the start but he articulated himself well in the end.

[@sprddrss]

Hi, I was the researcher in this discussion. I was pretty nervous! Thank you for your kind comments.

[@shadowzeal]

bob smith debate jf.

[@DaveWard-xc7vd]

He had a lot to unpack and didn't want to come over as the opposition right out of the gate.

[@wibblywobblywomble6147]

Debate got Destinyed in this destroy.

[@DrewsFire]

now this is a meme I can get behind

[@Reglei1]

Destroyed got debated in this destiny

[@emilydagna6793]

This destroy got in destiny

[@morgangreen2526]

Race is as real as you want it to be.

[@MrJohnnyAOA]

This the most profound statement in the comment section I have read.

[@korppi164]

The colour green exists if you want it to exist. Where does green begin and blue end?

[@korppi164]

@COOCHIE-PUNCH 5000 Exactly.

[@xaviercockerton6989]

COOCHIE-PUNCH 5000 It doesn’t mean they don’t exist, it means that the point at which you call something one or the other is arbitrary. Race is similar. What’s the point of these categories?

[@cocopus]

​@@douglas_fir i agree with you in wanting to preserve your culture and heritage and all that. but you have to understand that when you put people in categories of which one is smarter and which one is better or superior in what way or another. it is much MUCH more easier for horrible people to justify their horrible actions and even influence others. and even so limit smart and capable people from reaching their full potential because simply they believed their race wouldn't allow them to.

[@seriousbees]

How Can Races Be Real If Our Eyes Aren't Real

[@xaviercockerton6989]

Based

[@luecifur2051]

Does anyone else realize how often destiny says "sure"? It's all I hear anymore. I wanna make a compilation. Love the videos though. Sure.

[@assuming9735]

Lue Cifur Don't forget "right?"

[@heavyglassglass]

"Hey buddy"

[@MrVIrginiaLUV]

@@heavyglassglass "Hey Buddy, What's up?"

[@TheLacedaemonian300]

This was really helpful for me personally. The PhD might have thought he didn't do that well, but he explained things that I was having difficulty with prior to watching this. It's such a damn complicated field of study.

[@ben_alfred]

tbh it’s not really that complicated at all. ‘experts’ make it appear as such, but that’s just so they don’t have to contend with the corollaries of race existing

[@stephenplekan8919]

@@ben_alfred race doesn’t exist biologically. Get cucked bro.

[@InternetResearch]

Really interesting talk, enjoyed it greatly

[@Napkindog]

enjoyed the entire hour? when its been minutes since its out?

[@GrowlingM1ke]

x20 speed, my dude

[@DrakonXLYR]

Holy SHIT the autism is strong with this one

[@waswat]

It got streamed beforehand, as evidenced by chat.

[@hand__banana]

+drawlingking welcome to the world of livestreams!

[@photonicdog]

in which youtube commenters think they know more about a subject than someone with a phd in it

[@korppi164]

He doesn't have a PHD in genetics.

[@MONSTERKILL2013]

In it? You cannot even say what his PHD is in lmao, he didn't even say it.

[@MONSTERKILL2013]

@Õ_Õ Shy Guy There is no such thing as a phd in stem field, that just tells you which field your phd is in, like saying l am a professional sports player and when someone asks what sport l say one where a ball is involved.

[@sperm8493]

@@korppi164 No he does have one in stem tho

[@sperm8493]

@@MONSTERKILL2013 Destiny put his credentials in the description

[@klm6004]

Destiny got fucking obliterated entirely in all aspects of this debate gg lads

[@JaguarGames1337]

IN AN EPIC BATTLE DESTINY TRIES NOT TO GET SMASHED IN A DEBATE *GONE WRONG*

[@flycakelol]

reminds me of the time when dunkey beat sky in smash

[@DrakonXLYR]

Go home you're drunk

[@mafab666]

Reminds me of the time when Destiny got beat in this debate

[@Hotshotter3000]

This is really, really good. The more I learn about genetics and 'race' the more I realize just how utterly full of shit the 'realists' are. The reason why race isn't discussed anymore in science is A: The concept has been so heavily smashed it isn't funny, B: The sheer political and social ramifications are horrified if the wrong people butcher the data for the wrong reasons (and we've already seen it happen MANY times over the past 130 years). It has nothing to do with Political Correctness trying to hide an inconvenient truth. I wish they had some links that showed what a load of hogwash the Bell Curve is. I understand the racists won't buy it because they're so hell bent on believing that they (or specifically Northern Europeans) were behind every single achievement in human history and seem to think it's an insult that they were behind on anything at one point.

[@damnedifido1062]

Philosophy Beddoe Africa is the most genetically diverse place on the planet. So for someone to claim Africa is in a poor state because of genetics is not only unscientific but is completely bullshit.

[@damnedifido1062]

Sudan Nutella Any google search would prove your claim wrong. But if you still believe that, I need some receipts.

[@mayainverse9429]

@@damnedifido1062 who cares what the fuck it is. does not matter if it is genetics, evironment, their daddy calling them stupid racists who speak another language on the other side of the planet posting racist memes on twitter or a celestial divine entity playing with their fate threads or a witch doctor putting a curse on them. all of these things is simply some way to attempt to explain why but at the end of the day you can not disprove that these populations fail to create or even worse fail to sustain already productive societies even when in times of peace and with outside help they are incapable. also the worst influences blacks have right now at least in western society is not a direct impact in the quality of society but influence the minds of the left making them go completely fucking insane.

[@T1memaster]

@Runic Sage Google? Use your eyes you dumb liberal clown. White have more different hair/eye colors than Blacks. Whites visibily look different than Blacks, get over it.

[@ksilva2848]

@@T1memaster holly shit is this the peak of ignorance? "uSe YoUr EyEs" what are you a fucking flatearther?

[@ultimatedespairgamer6722]

I always love that ppl on the right never speak to experts about their ideas, they find someone who can speak well and nit pick a handful of studies that don’t even say what they think they say and present all experts as being part of a conspiracy against them

[@Adam-bq6ic]

lol, the guy has a phd in "stem" , how is that relevant to the topic? he's by no means an expert. the problem is that any expert in the actual study gets called racist and is defamed by you people. the guy who discovered the double helix was a race realist and his life was ruined for it. think of how many people there are who know it's true but don't want to ruin their lives for admitting it. oh and decades of studies proving iq differences despite environment are a "handful of studies"??

[@ultimatedespairgamer6722]

@@Adam-bq6ic im sorry I didn’t think I needed to dumb it down this much , but expert in a Relevant way how does discovery the double helix make your dumb fuck views about race realism true

[@aljowen]

Not gonna lie, I found this discussion really hard to follow in certain sections. Guess my background in that area of science isn't strong enough to allow me to understand what the guest was stating. Admittedly Destiny's simplifications made night and day difference for me being able to understand it xD. Either way, was certainly interesting to listen to and gather what I could from it.

[@RS-ky4qg]

"Race realism" and "PhD" in the same title. Oof, this oughta be good!

[@skepticmoderate5790]

"I don't know if there's a downtown in Omaha." It really do be like that sometimes. RIP the middle.

[@DaveWard-xc7vd]

45:00 You just contradicted your earlier statement. That being that location is more important than environment.

[@TDragonus]

I don't really like when they both say that "no scientists agree on this thing" and then the researcher proceeds to obfuscate both the real-world application and academic comprehension of 'race' as if its some mysterious entity we'll never truly comprehend. There's no reason it should be that complicated. This is our own selves we're talking about here, not what's in the center of a black hole. This makes the scientific process seem fruitless and impractical. For the record, I'm NOT trashing science as a whole, just the use(or misuse rather) of it here.

[@vicentemoreno4392]

Well is practical in a informal way but in science saying that race is a thing is not correct, is like when people say "you are a heartless", obviously you have a heart.

[@paigejane173]

Damn, Destiny got destroyed in this debate.

[@Spacejam420]

nice try desteny but you got destroyed

[@MrJohnnyAOA]

How, this was not a debate though? It was a very civilized talk. The Race-IQ debate which race realist often deffer was not touched in the conversation; only the logical and practical reason for racial category. Am I missing anything?

[@is4469]

@@MrJohnnyAOA yeah, the joke.

[@franklinvonfrankenstein1137]

@@MrJohnnyAOA went right iver your head hahah

[@disk0__]

>Its hard to say definitively if I actually have Asperger's based on my genetic markers >I can't read twitch chat I'll get too involved I got a good hunch

[@papajohn2288]

disco__ autism is a superpower

[@disk0__]

autismisunstoppable

[@sprddrss]

Hi, I was the researcher in this discussion. I admit it, I cringed when I listened to this part again too! And I regret not following chat in retrospect because they had a number of good comments and criticisms. Concerning Asperger's, my purpose was to discuss how difficult it can be to find a genetic basis of complex traits. In the study I cited, Asperger's has ONE known genetic marker, and that marker is actually present in 78% of the population (whereas 78% of the population definitely does not have Asperger's). I hope this illustrates (to some extent) the difficulty in finding causal genetic variants in modern genetic studies. But we're working on ways to do a better job of it.

[@hjge1012]

Most of this had nothing to do with race and race realism... Just some random facts and opinions loosely strung together.

[@assuming9735]

HJ GE Because race realism was debunked as any form of credible science within the first 10 minutes of the conversation.

[@abysmalgod]

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[@thebrowhodoesntlift9613]

Wait... how did you do that?

[@alexhopwood8]

This PhD genetics researcher sure does have a difficult time explaining rudimentary undergraduate biology concepts. Its fucking scary to think that someone running a university lab propelling articles into the scientific colloquium doesn't understand the distinction between mutation and genetic drift.

[@alexhopwood8]

He's not explaining anything that is extraordinarily complicated. That's why I gave the example of genetic drift, wherein he struggled at giving a completely wrong definition of genetic drift. Keep in mind that if this guy is who he says he is, he should be equipped to teach at a university level and he fucked up AP Bio material.

[@sprddrss]

Hi John Cena, I'm the researcher in the discussion. As Funnyannita says, I do sometimes struggle to explain complicated concepts in a simple way, which is why feedback during and after a conversation is often useful. So it sounds like you think I made some mistakes, could you elaborate a bit? From memory, I believe I talked about how genetic drift is the random accumulation of mutations over time due to random effects rather than natural selection. The wikipedia definition says that it's "the change in the frequency of an allele in a population due to random sampling of organisms". I think most people have difficulty understanding "variation in allele frequencies" so I tried to discuss it in slightly simpler terms (which I think were close to the truth). I also tried to talk about fixation, but I had difficulty explaining it in a simple way. At any rate I'd be happy to hear your suggestions. Thanks for the comments.

[@alexhopwood8]

Here is what was said when defining genetic drift: "...changes in the genetic sequence, genetic code, due to random chance." You should immediately recognize the problem here, where a fairly accurate layman definition of mutation is ascribed to the concept of genetic drift. Genetic drift has no effect on the genetic code. It is an actor on mutations and can be the reason for which they become fixed in a population, but it does not produce mutations as the definition indicates. I think the researcher may have realized this after Destiny derives a more accurate definition (possible prior exposure?) of genetic drift from the original dialogue because he restates the definition as "If there were no reason why a trait might spread it might spread anyway due to random chance." There is still a reason, that being random chance, but this is understood. I hope you can see why I take issue with this when the accolade of a PhD is being touted as why the viewer should trust that the information and arguments presented are coming from a place of authority on the subject matter. Its the same reason why there was such an uproar about Gary Johnson's Aleppo fiasco. This is a guy who wants to be the director of foreign policy for the most powerful country on earth, and he gets tripped up on an integral piece of the United States' current foreign involvement. I don't have any suggestions. I have no way to tell if that is you in the video or not. Maybe the presenter was nervous, maybe he shines at communicating ideas on a different medium because he isn't used to presenting ideas in this format, maybe he had honest misconceptions about these ideas. Who knows? I wouldn't feel comfortable or useful giving suggestions until I could pinpoint the cause of why ideas were misconstrued in the conversation.

[@sprddrss]

Thank you for your comments, I think I get what you're saying. First of all, by all means, please do not take what I say as gospel. That was not my intention. My hope is that introducing broad concepts such as drift and diffusion and discussing how drift might play an important role in in addition to natural selection are topics that people can become aware of and further investigate on their own. If you don't believe I was the speaker that's ok. Second, upon reflection I think I more or less agree with your first two paragraphs. I had difficulty in that part of the discussion because I think the average person has difficulty thinking in terms of frequencies. In the end my attempt at explaining things in a simple way was not terribly accurate on a scientific level. I fumbled a bit and Steven is fortunately quite bright and also gifted with words. I'll try to be more careful in the future. Cheers, and thanks again for the feedback.

[@tigresuave11]

statistics state that 1-2 standard deviations are within the normal range. It has to be 3 deviations or more to be unusual.

[@_WhiteMage]

"Normal" in the sense that it's not particularly rare, but a single deviation's difference between two normal distributions makes for a very clear and obvious difference between groups: Overlap two normal distributions, different by only _one_ standard deviation, and you get half of the higher one being higher than the top 5/6 of the lower one. To put that another way, it takes being in the _top 1/6th_ of blacks to be at least as smart as the _average_ white person.

[@cameronhowe1110]

Amiable Modron who do you classify as “blacks” ?

[@davidmason4244]

​@@cameronhowe1110people of the unique genetic descent of africans.

[@g0stface23]

Race isn't real until you need a blood transfusion

[@steventodd787]

Bait

[@skyrippuh3000]

Wut

[@marcinnieistotne3863]

lol

[@Extramana]

'a phD in STEM' Wow sounds legit to me!

[@morgangreen2526]

ExtraMana He is trying to cover his ass. Seems reasonable for someone who works with genetics.

[@nanidachamman2645]

Morgan Green i dnt fuvking blve it, argue his points moron

[@bflagg94]

That's not even what he said lmao He said "a PhD in a STEM field"

[@mayainverse9429]

when did they make lesbian dance theory a STEM field.

[@ZeroOne01Rus]

You gotta learn how to get rid of those "Um"s from your speach my man.

[@XxMeatShakexX]

ZeroOne it'll just get replaced with another filler noise. The only way to avoid that is have a script or a brain running on maximum overdrive... or you speak about really generic/regurgitated topics you've trained basically into muscle memory

[@littlebigphil]

Do you count silence as a filler noise?

[@ShadowCloaks]

silent pauses are perfectly fine

[@sprddrss]

Hi, I was the researcher in this discussion, thank you for this comment. I listened to it again afterwards and I definitely cringed! It's tough and I'll try to work on it when I give talks in the future. Cheers mate.

[@assuming9735]

bob smith Yo, I was just wondering what you had a PhD in? Destint wasn't very clear in his description and I was very clear what STEM field specifically you study. I'm assuming it's biology of some sort but I just wanted to be sure. Also, sorry for just replying to a comment like this. I figured going straight to you like this would be easier than leaving a comment on the video I'm general.

[@rwatertree]

45:30 Charles Murray went into this in his recent talk with Sam Harris. All the issues with IQ research that Destiny's guest mentions were addressed.

[@seanmcmanus2777]

Can you link it?

[@lastraven7205]

Is this guy really trying to act like Cubans and Haitians are the same thing?

[@fightfannerd2078]

What?

[@lastraven7205]

@@fightfannerd2078 Are you now implying they're of similar admix?

[@siddharthagautama7258]

A discussion! Thank god.

[@megamonstercookies]

What game is this

[@jasonosunkoya]

factorio

[@megamonstercookies]

Thanks!

[@5aturnia]

a phd in uhmm. he is obviously a specialist in uhmmm.

[@vegacareless]

Didn't realize Destiny was on with Carolus Linmaeus...

[@MrRand0mGamer]

Is he not going to mention things like Sickle cell anemia being more present in blacks because of an adaption to fight malaria or how they are are the most likely to be deficient in Vitamin D because dark skin especially in colder weather blocks more sun? There are plenty of genetic differences

[@MrRand0mGamer]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing lol what an interesting reply. I wasn't aiming to cite brain differences with my comment or give the most compelling evidence for race realism. I was just baffled by how even the most common knowledge things were not being discussed. I'd expect about as much out of a high school science class discussion. Here why don't we have a little science class discussion for ourselves, shall we? I am just going to meet you where you are at and we can do a little brainstorming together to figure this out for ourselves. So let me start by asking you this then. Seeing as how climate and diet alone have distinctly evolved and shaped different races and ethnic groups, such as dark skinned Africans being better suited for hotter climates and Asians with slanted eyes to protect them from snow, do you think it not possible that climate and diet could also have possibly had an effect on intelligence, thinking patterns or brain differences between groups?

[@MrRand0mGamer]

@@Thanosdidtherighthing Sure I could prove it, but if you are not going to bother answering my question then why would I bother proving anything to you? You could find this on your own if you really cared and you clearly don't care enough to engage with what I wrote so why I would go to the trouble?

[@lastraven7205]

@@MrRand0mGamer diet doesn't increase your intelligence...

[@MrRand0mGamer]

​@@lastraven7205Hey would you mind using your brain real quick? I am talking about evolution and natural selection here. Absolutely diet played a large role in the increasing of human intelligence. We likely evolved the brains that we do because of our meat diet. Compared to chimpanzees whose diet mostly consists of plants and insects, human diets were more carnivorous in comparison. Brain tissue requires 20 times more energy than muscle tissue and meat is a much higher energy dense source which could support this larger brain size. Later with cooked meat we also got even more nutritional value and faster consumption time. It's also important to add that while diet may not increase your intelligence in the short term, it can definitely decrease it. What you put into your body makes a huge difference. Btw I was only asking this person as a hypothetical if just these two factors played a role because of his first reply to me. There is a lot more I could say about this, but he didn't want to play along as he didn't really care about the truth or have an inquisitive mind. People just want to believe in their presuppositions and never actually put it to the test for fear of what they may find.

[@lif3andthings763]

@@MrRand0mGamer Sickle Cell anemia is only common in some black population due to a high presence in malaria. Sickle cell anemia isn’t only found in Africa as well. Dont get the vitamin D point. Diet, climate, and geography effect skin color.

[@densurevisemand6395]

I have a PhD in life when u over 50 years old and have a big hapitus kids with a PhD under 32 don’t mean shit

[@vicentemoreno4392]

The autism is hard on this one.

[@seanmcmanus2777]

What is your point?

[@ownagemunky]

What's this game?

[@seanmcmanus2777]

Factorio

[@TheAusugn]

ANNIHILATED HOLY

[@4tahlulz4]

Umm, words, umm, so of course, umm, you know, umm.

[@westingtyler1]

sure.

[@pffilms2522]

westingtyler ideas lol

[@morgangreen2526]

This is what happens when a researcher is trying to convert his knowledge into something intelligible to laymen.

[@5aturnia]

Morgan Green lool

[@DaveWard-xc7vd]

28:59 So location plays a more important role in genetics than does environment. WHO KNEW?

[@skewedsound]

Imagine thinking location isn't part of the environment....

[@MichaelNates]

It sucks seeing a guy claim to be a scientist or someone with a "PHD" and completely ignore the scientific field of Anthropology that is the science specifically aimed at studying human Biology ,Race , Culture and behavior. Just because he doesn't like the idea of race does not mean it does not exist.

[@NICHTVONBEDEUTUNG1]

What game is he playing ?

[@dickgoblin]

Factorio

[@cartertalbott5387]

What game is he playing? and Destiny got debate in this destroyed

[@garybaker466]

Stephens 23andme results would come back 100% European.

[@DaveWard-xc7vd]

IQ is the highest correlated psychometric that we have. Jordan Peterson.

[@Neo_Destiny]

Ah, the internet's favorite benzo junkie.

[@garybaker466]

Only someone extremely intelligent can convince themselves race doesn't exist and then talk for 2 hours about why it doesn't.

[@Jrez]

What was the point of this?

[@ServingChrist]

confirmation bias.

[@paulaagam5071]

Is there a genome in this debate?

[@fabianblanco9020]

this sounds deep to the average normie but really what this convo boils down to is that "race shouldn't be a category because its convenient to us"

[@sperm8493]

Ik. I don’t know why destiny invited somebody who is a phd in stem research on for a discussion on RR.

[@sperm8493]

@Racialist Slayer WN don’t cite Jared Taylor as an authority on genetics. They cite the studies that Jared Taylor provides as an authority on genetics. Big difference.

[@davidmason4244]

Exactly. "Theres more genetic diversity in Africa then anywhere else" like a shittier version of Lewtonins fallacy.

[@acrossfields2992]

WHAT GAME IS HE PLAYING?????????????????

[@DrakonXLYR]

*Faxtorio

[@Ahmera]

Factorio

[@BenDover-jy1wy]

"lets not actually debate or debunk anything race realists say, I'll just ramble about things everyone already agrees about for a hour or so, and then when you ask me about stuff race realists say I'll just admit I know nothing about it".

[@rwatertree]

Race as in black, white, yellow, red people is nonsense. Haplogroups and genetic variation between them are absolutely real. If genetic variations are heritable on an individual level then of course they are at a group level. Otherwise there would be no evolution or genetic drift etc.

[@Vinzaf]

It's almost like the race realists don't truly know anything themselves.

[@Mabasei]

but haplogroup variaitonn on the y chromosome is very minimal. And if we used that then many black africans are in entirely different races then due to the wide range of haplogroups they can end up in. not to mention members of the african diaspora.

[@sprddrss]

Hi, I was the researcher in this discussion, and I appreciate your criticism. My purpose in this discussion was to give greater insight into why I don't believe racism stands up from a scientific viewpoint. I feel that the specific arguments that some race-realists happen to be making today or tomorrow is a detail when racism and racially-based ideas come in many forms and are constantly evolving. I hope that discussing some of the fundamentals of population genetics will give people some broader insight into the challenges we face when discussing these issues.

[@BenDover-jy1wy]

Except you know nothing about the "altrights" "racism". We don't argue that race is anything but a social construct, which is something you spent about half this interview discussing. The simply fact is that humans can be broken down into different population groups based on place of ancestral evolution, but those groups are probably too blurry to break down into definitive "races". The altrights sole argument is that evolving in vastly disparate environments for 70,000+ years would produce differences in population groups, and all evidence suggests that those differences wouldn't magically stop at the brain. And don't even come in here saying that you were just trying to give some more info on the subject, you literally stated at the beginning of the interview that the altrights racist use of the information is bothersome to you.

[@lurtz8656]

I fuckin love this guy.

[@fringeelements]

"with a researcher who has a PhD in the STEM field." - Damn that word choice. Reflective of a very unhealthy mentality on knowledge. In the middle ages Destiny would have followed the priesthood.

[@BabylonianHebrew]

Dat Boi You are missing his point, baby-brain.

[@RihannaIsIluminati]

This isn't an argument.

[@Deadpool3E]

So sayeth the guy who has nothing to show for his non-existent expertise.

[@seanmcmanus2777]

Hyperbolic much?

[@fightfannerd2078]

@@RihannaIsIluminati there's no argument on race realism because it's a fact of life

[@DaveWard-xc7vd]

Bodies are not the only things affected by genetics. Brains are also subject to genetic influences. Genes are themselves affected by evolution and different ancestral groups underwent different environmental selection pressures that have caused differences in the way they view and deal with their environment. Race may be a construct, but genes and the traits they express are very real and have their origins in those ancestral groups.

[@FleivaSleiva]

lamo Dostainy

[@genericcereal]

umm

[@kurciqs8355]

look at this factorio GAMR

[@cassiloca]

Idk why he even mentioned genetic drift. That's not much of an issue in large populations lol, it seems like he's just throwing around random facts. And wtf is a "PhD in stem"? Not everyone involved in stem is knowledgeable in genetics.

[@abdullahal-ahmati5030]

Because that's the explanation for why population genetics are determined by the group through which the genes spread (aka by the location where the group lived) instead of by the environment the group lived in. Genetic drift was an "issue" for human populations, which is how you can tell if someone is from Scandinavia or Britain.

[@DoomTheSpaceMarine]

Take a sip for every time he says "umm" or "uhh".

[@workmusic285]

jesus christ I can't understand what he's saying with all the ums

[@nikolailund8351]

Destinygotdestroyedinthisone xD

[@Rachenviel]

#IStandWithDestiny

[@christopherfiorentino6552]

umm...sure...umm...sure umm..sure...umm

[@TheXV22]

holy shit this guy talks way too much to explain simple things. He also doesn't fucking say what his subject is, "PhD in STEM field" doesn't mean much.

[@eaglemach9992]

Uhm, i can't talk like a normal human being, uhm... Uhm, i sound like a stereotypical blonde. Uhm yea, uhm.

[@kkobawski]

Uhm

[@DopeyMcNopy]

uhhm

[@bluntznkuntz3914]

So basically, from a scientist's point of view, we know nothing about anything and there's an impossible number of variables effecting every aspect of life and research from 30 years ago is basically useless because well it's 2017 now... ...and we should continue to invest in academic scientific research because reasons.

[@seriousbees]

right, science is hard so why even try? we should just 420 blaze it erry day

[@hunzukunz]

interesting what some people take away from these discussions.

[@bluntznkuntz3914]

Beleshanel not an argument

[@bluntznkuntz3914]

funnyannita not an argument

[@BumpytheScorpian]

This guy obviously doesn't have a quality understanding of history from what he's saying, while he does have a good basis in what he's saying at some points, the idea that race is arbitrary, and that it's some kind of social construct is massively untrue. People developed from where they were, the europeans, west africans, east africans, mongolians, slavs, britons, celts, all developed differently, even those that were similar in skin color or looks, have connotations to many physical factors, both due to upbringing from culture and selective breeding which was commonplace in history. These things do not apply much if at all in modern society, but we still have signs of the initial racial differences today. This was shown in the past with how scientists would separate races and phenotypes with differences in skull structure as a basis, while this has been muddled with racial supremacy in the years, it still can and should be used as a basis to work off of, as there is a noticeable difference in how races look and how they develop physically, due to the area that this race developed for the past 3000 years.

[@36nuts18]

in the first 10 minutes he literally said that the meaning of race subjective, which you seem not to understand

[@sisterimmaculata1680]

Racial categorization is different from culture to culture thus it's a social construct. Ez.

[@mendez704]

Sorry, but from an historical point of view, it is you who does not have any understanding from where the concept of race comes from. First, it is very recent concept (dating back from the end of the XVIII century) and second, it was based on very loosely and weak concepts. Some arbitrary physiological differences, and some nasty generalizations about the behavior of people classified into those concepts. In a time where nobody even knew DNA and genetics was just in its infancy.

[@fightfannerd2078]

@@mendez704 western civilization vs African civilization is arbitrary ? data arbitrary history arbitrary

[@amuroray9115]

@@fightfannerd2078 they weren’t talking about civilizations themselves, numbnuts