The Joy Taylor Situation Has Gotten Out Of Control.. (A Rant)

[@MrDoit187]

Joy taylor is notorious for blasting men, ridicule them, making fun of them, bashing them, etc. It was pretty obvious she will get the most amount of heat. You reap what you sow

[@lario1030]

🗣️

[@wlane2384]

Exactly. It's not that we don't want to hear from women. We don't want to hear from women like her. Doris Burke, I listen to her all day. She's knowledgeable and doesn't bring all the nonsense.

[@turntuptrojan1085]

This is our major point. She talked about men in such a negative light and would go on these extended rants and talk like she was more holy than thou. It felt like it was coming from a place of disgust for regular, average men. She emasculated me for no reason. She even talked to women, saying, "You have nothing to worry about. Your man has no chance. She was just arrogant and disrespectful. Karma was like, "Hold my beer."

[@williamdaniels4013]

A WALKING MATRESS. 👣👙🍆

[@RetroBigCat75]

Yeah. I'd rather hear women like Doris Burke Candace Parker, Jessica Medonza or someone who has knowledge or play the sport.

[@stephenobisanya]

Correction: Men don’t care to hear what a woman WHO HAS NO DEEP KNOWLEDGE OF SPORTS has to say. Doesn’t matter if you played the game or not. Is your knowledge unparalleled? I watch your show almost everyday because you have the knowledge and actually cover sports issues critically when everyone in sports media focuses their coverage on the woke perspective. We care when the women fed to us are actually great at their job, not just eye candy interrupting valuable sports conversations.

[@manofhustlegta7338]

PREACH

[@n.a.supreme1820]

@steohenobisanya What is the "woke" perspective? Please explain.

[@stephenobisanya]

@ Focusing on everything but basketball (i.e. Identity politics). See mainstream sports media coverage of Caitlin Clark for hundreds of examples.

[@amyk6319]

The problem is an average looking woman with great sports knowledge will never be offered the job. Female commentators are complimented on & acknowledge first & foremost for their looks, not their knowledge. And despite only hiring beautiful female sportscasters, the audiences still find a reason to nitpick their looks & judge their attractiveness. I have yet to hear anyone complain that a man is unworthy of his job in any area of media because he is not attractive enough, but you often hear that very statement made about women in the same job.

[@xavierharris4036]

​@amyk6319 yea that's the main issue. Joy Taylor gives decent insight. No worse than any man tbh

[@ezanderson8834]

Seems like yall worried about joy backlash and not worried about her telling someone who getting abused to shut up about it like a pimp

[@thetrib1]

it's because the alleged addressing has already happened. think about what you focused on....joy said "shut up and take it" but joy wasn't the one trying to sleep with her right? it seems like you're not worried about the man in the situation who is potentially doing the abusing. and that's why it seems she made this video lol. for people like you.

[@ezanderson8834]

@thetrib1 no we are but she is now dealing with them they will get some repercussion but as someone who have cousins and nieces to have something happen to them and not be able to tell someone of course she not going to her husband or family bc speaking as a family member I'm going to jail so she didn't want that she turned to a female and that female told her to shut up wtf is she supposed to do? That's almost just as bad she left her on an island and that's F up so all that Feminist help all women crap was thrown out the window yall as females should be the most mad at joy

[@savlosavage]

Joy did what her boss allowed. Also, people like Charleston white openly admit to rape .... but he always talks this woman accountability nonsense ... how about everyone be accountable because skip and Dixon are skipping on their accountability

[@karlsylvain]

obviously a lie told by the salty hairdresser. stop believing whitlock

[@vanillasky1271]

​@@karlsylvainwhy would we stop believing him when he was there as well as others who have first hand accounts...

[@mattmason7554]

Threatening a false harassment claim. Indefensible

[@traderzone1]

She just bragged about that to a ‘friend’. She never did it. You can’t hold something against someone they never did.

[@jeanfourcade]

The claim was never made. Nothing to defend.

[@henrystreet6152]

Allegedly

[@vanillasky1271]

​@@traderzone1so if someone is waiting with a bat to hit someone in the head but that someone took another turn, no problem with intent, huh... the fact she had that as a plan (premeditated) and shared that information with a friend... wait, so you find out a guy told a friend he was going to kidnap a woman but never had the chance to carry it out, all good huh... must be amazing to be a woman and have zero agency and zero accountability...

[@RudyandNicole]

Bruh girl has guilt all around that peanut butter skin! 😂

[@GOLDKW-bl4gp]

The next woman who takes accountability will be the first I have seen in my 62 years.

[@thetrib1]

men don't take accountability

[@Anthonycheesman2024]

Why are you here

[@Ausnapify]

​@@Anthonycheesman2024after he answers id like to ask you the same Q

[@mattmason7554]

@@Anthonycheesman2024simp

[@IDF_R_HEROES]

@@Anthonycheesman2024Should he be with your mom?

[@nalokitten]

Nah. People out there clowning Skip too. The difference is we've heard of many people doing the type of stuff Skip is alleged. The Joy stuff about women in the office hasn't really come out for high profile women. Also, it unfairly puts the spotlight on Molly and others whether they did it or not.

[@ezanderson8834]

Yes Molly is getting backlash from this and she didn't even do anything

[@Jukuuuuu]

Yea I’m not sure how she came to this consensus

[@ezanderson8834]

@@Jukuuuuu tbh I feel bad for the woman and all them women they thinking men are bad this woman was getting harassed felt like she could go to another woman but the other female told her to shut up ! Dang that's wild and the media is worried about making joy the woman who told her to shut up the victim smh

[@thetrib1]

I haven't seen really any skip mentioning. it's mostly been joy or other females in similar career fields

[@ezanderson8834]

@thetrib1 go look up skip last video with his wife they was on his head and when it happened #MyTurn was trending

[@vincentthuston9110]

What I don’t understand is why no one is talking about the lady who made the accusations! She claimed that she was subjected to bullying and racism! I find that part egregious!

[@vincentthuston9110]

Also lost on this that commenters have yet to discuss is the toll it’s taken on the people that are in Joy Taylor’s orbit! According to the lawsuit she had a husband. He found out about the affair, then they divorced, then the fiancé didn’t know and he suffered emotionally as well! Imagine those two suffering from this mess!

[@conniekungfu206]

It happens on both sides. Some men do harass women at work. But women also falsely accuse men of sexual harassment to get out of their own trouble and make money. Either way, it's disgusting. I was an athlete, so I have no problem with women talking about sports, especially if they played sports and love sports. I talk about sports all the time. The ones I like and play mostly.

[@thetrib1]

it's happening on both sides, but it's happening overwhelmingly against women. it's ok to be like "this side has it worse in these dynamics". trust me it's ok. for individual victims you treat them the same, but when speaking in generalities it's not close, women are the one's taking a large majority of the bs.

[@conniekungfu206]

@thetrib1 And when women make false claims to ruin a man's life and reputation she should go to prison. Because this is not a game. And when that happens only real victims will come forward!

[@johnchristopher3032]

​@@thetrib1No. The dynamic is not worse. It just feels that way to women. You all rally around each other. Skip is getting roasted on Twitter, reddit, KZbin, everywhere. It's not better than what joy is receiving.

[@thetrib1]

@johnchristopher3032 I didn't say the dynamic was worse I said in that dynamic it happens much more to women. "You all rally around eachother" who is the "you" in that statement?🤔. Yes skip is getting roasted and for every skip comment there's like 15 joy comments and maybe point1 Charlie comments

[@cristobalc5425]

Way too much Joy going around Fox, etc... smh

[@Zay-i1l]

😂😂😂

[@markdyess1771]

Joy to the world,,,,,,,,

[@Ravenfanatic5]

​@@markdyess1771ayooo🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ericimi]

You don't seem to think what joy did was wrong.

[@ReignMaker26]

That's not what she's saying. The focus of the lawsuit was the hairdresser being abused by men and Joy being complicit. But the majority of the comments are bashing Joy, and completely ignoring the actual (alleged) abusers. That's weird behavior.

[@johnchristopher3032]

​@ReignMaker26 The famous celebrities are getting attention. Joy, skip, according, Shannon, all of them. The boss isn't well known, so people won't be as interested.

[@ReignMaker26]

@@johnchristopher3032 go look at the comments on her previous video and you tell me who most of the comments are calling out. the allegations are bad for all of them, but Joy was only a small part of the suit. So why is the first inclination to call her out?

[@traderzone1]

I don’t think what she did was legally wrong.

[@MrArrow54]

​@@ReignMaker26 I feel like your forgetting the way people generally think. They may hate a deviant but they despise a traitor. Skip and the other guy are worthy of hate and people will curse them for a moment then move on with their day. But they will actively go out of their way to spit on someone who they feel betrayed them like Joy is accused of doing. Reminds me of the post war accounts where they mention the brutal things the mobs did to people who slept with or conspired with the enemy. People viewed as traitors always get harsh treatment.

[@ohmygonzalez]

“I was not even planning on making another video about this but I’m desperate for clicks so let’s talk about it”

[@StevenEvens7125]

I'm sorry, what was this rant _against exactly?_

[@thetrib1]

against a male dominated culture. it's why she gave what she thinks is the percentage of the convo. saying joy is 90% skip is 10% and charlie is very little. it's to illustrate how she feels that it's kinda unfair. at least that's what it looks like

[@OnHandPro]

@@StevenEvens7125 RAD hates guys apparently.

[@ReignMaker26]

It boils down to this: The focus of the lawsuit was the hairdresser being abused by men and Joy being complicit. But the majority of the comments are bashing Joy, and completely ignoring the actual (alleged) abusers. There's multiple offenders here but the commenters are largely just latching on to what Joy did.

[@glennlyons2178]

​@@ReignMaker26The suit said Joy planned on using her body, and if that didn't work she'd just cry assault to get what she wanted. That and the fact she was married and or engaged while engaging with men at the network will cause her backlash.

[@glennlyons2178]

​@@ReignMaker26The suit said Joy planned on using her body, and if that didn't work she'd just cry assault to get what she wanted. That and the fact she was married and or engaged while engaging with men at the network will cause her backlash.

[@tommy2chips]

I don’t mind women talking about sports as long that they are factual and have substance. It just gets me when a guys talks guy talk and women say it is harrasment or offensive. Example, guys will call an athlete that they don’t like female genitalia ( not talking about a woman) and call it harrasment and sexist .

[@jennadavidson418]

Essentially Rachel is blaming and criticizing men as a collective while saying there should be no criticism of women and that no woman should not be held accountable for their actions.

[@ReignMaker26]

That's not what she's saying. If you read the comments in her last video, the overwhelming majority are assuming that all the negative stuff about Joy Taylor is true and that the accusations against the men involved are either untrue or not worth discussing. That viewpoint is weird, point blank.

[@StephenBurns2413]

Listening is hard

[@simba5734]

That's what I heard as well

[@ThroneOfGames101]

@@ReignMaker26 it’s not weird. Skip had nothing to gain and everything to lose. Joy had nothing to lose and everything to gain. Logically, Joy’s allegations make more sense. And we don’t know wtf Charlie is

[@omotayosatuyi252]

We don't even know what has happened is even true, they are allegations

[@ricodude1]

Why is it all about YOU?

[@times2duel]

Everyone is getting roasted at Fox . SKIP Especially lmao

[@thetrib1]

you go to shows where joy isn't on them...and the comment section is talking about joy.

[@times2duel]

@thetrib1 my group chat is mostly picking on skip for trying to pay to get laid lmao what a dork

[@KAye633]

He barely getting roasted and called out compared to Joy

[@Ace-wy7xr]

I don't think all men assume that women sleep their way up. There are women I enjoy listening to, like Kay Adams, Rachel Nichols (when she was at ESPN), and Mina Kimes (sometimes lol). But that's because they have knowledge about the topics they're discussing. Respect is earned, not given, and sometimes it just doesn't add up with the people you see on TV, whether they are men or women

[@thisiswhatiliketocallzer0b512]

Its too detailed for it be a lie and not holding women accountable for there devious acts is one of the biggest problems in society. There is no deterrent for them destroying a mans career unfairly because too many women and simps defend it. Skip making a creepy comment doesnt compare to what joy did. Trying to ignore Joys actions is almost satanic.

[@thetrib1]

"its too detailed for it be a lie.." uh...not really. it's clearly from her pov...which could be wrong without her "lying". she could absolutely believe everything she's accusing them of and still be wrong. that's how it works. that's why it goes to court to see if the evidence provided matches up with what really happened. we'll see.

[@thisiswhatiliketocallzer0b512]

@@thetrib1 Im not even saying she should face any punishment or anything like that. but she should atleast get public shame. Lets be real, who the fuk would lie about someone else trying to metoo another person. Thats a very specific accusation. Dont be a retard.

[@ReignMaker26]

The problem with your line of reasoning is that it assumes the accusations against Joy are true, and ignores the actual (alleged) abusers here. Joy was only a small part of the lawsuit, and believe it or not, the things she's accused of doing aren't actually illegal. Some of the other stuff is.

[@traderzone1]

What did Joy do that was illegal ? She slept with an executive, that’s all. The one with the power in that dynamic is the executive. So believe me, from an HR / legal perspective, the executive is the most at fault. He’s the one with the power, not Joy.

[@MJKeenan30]

@@traderzone1 She threatened to falsely accuse her boss of SA. She is the one with the power in that case.

[@brentd5324]

It's rare to hear women admit that a false accusation is very wrong and that is damaging but then when your concern is only that other women won't be believed. Yes that is half of it but also a life is ruined there is a direct victim not a hypothetical victim that is a woman. When men abuse women it is terrible it's just as terrible when women falsely accuse men it ruins their lives. A false accusation should be punished as equally as accusation claimed would be. For example there was a boy in my town who punched a man that touched his sister on a city bus. The video evidence showed there there was absolutely no interaction and it was fabricated The man fell hit his head died the boys in jail for a long time and has to live with killing someone for the rest of his life just because he wanted to protect his sister

[@sipitioking7780]

It wouldn't really be a false accusation because he is in a position of power. This is why organization have strict rules against this type of relationships. Your leaving yourself open to s law suit even if it's consensual. Not to mention that he's guilty as hell.

[@LouSeph]

@@sipitioking7780it’s a false accusation- stop making her a child - she jumped from man to man at that company trying to get jobs and said if they turned on her she would claim rape - she isn’t a child at school like you are trying to make it seem.

[@KAye633]

@@LouSephthe funny thing is she’s not even getting sued she’s mentioned but the overall lawsuit is against fFs1 and skip but yall dog piling on her.

[@lincolnward85]

​@@KAye633she's being highlighted because she's at the center of all of it. If it's true she was sleeping with an exec for a position. Then while sleeping with him she started sleeping with a potential cast member to get a spot on another show, and when approached she told the claimant she would claim she was forced if it ever came to it. AND she told that same woman she should be grateful and stop complaining if she was being harassed. The Skip proposition is problematic just not nearly as big an issue as all of that.

[@ggriesenauer]

Having played the game does not always translate to quality media. Cheryl Swoopes was a fantastic player. But she's a total clown when it comes to being a media personality. The bias she has shown for Angel Reese and against Caitlyn Clark was glaringly obvious and lacked professionalism. Locally, Courtney Cronin covers the Chicago Bears and is amazing at her job. She knows what she's talking about and does a great job reporting on the team. But obviously she's never played in the NFL.

[@Mirror_of_the_Soul00]

Excellent Swoopes example. Also, I loved hearing Jackie MacMullan when she used to be on Around the Horn

[@jaybird8192]

Street walking for gratuities is against the law, isn't it??? Only difference is: She was walking the hallways for gratuities at the FS1 studio, then threatens to say: She was forced into sleeping with the boss! So please, stop it and let's not pretend she's a victim!

[@MP-bk5sf]

Joy Taylor never would've told a fellow Black woman to get over it. She and several other Black women in sports commentating showed just how racist, bigoted, and biased they are this year.

[@niko_azul]

I’ve been a lawyer for a while. Never presume to know what a person would or would not do just because you would not. People are dragging Skip too. The thing with Joy though is she talked so much shit about her work to get where she was.

[@williamdaniels4013]

UP UNTIL TODAY RACHEL NICHOLS IS STILL THE TOP OF THE TOPS IN WOMEN'S JOURNALISM & SPORTS COMMENTATING.

[@tonyslater7204]

I'm struggling to see what you object to here. You spend the majority of the video explaining how women should stop making excuses and just do the work, which I agree with. Joy Taylor didn't do that. She used her sexuality to manipulate the system, and publicly slandered on all men as she was doing it.

[@frederickgramcko5758]

Addendum: don't be a hypocrite. If women can talk about any sports, than any man can talk about women's issues, any white person can talk about black issues.. . example: you can't shut down conversation and say, " well, your not black, so shut up!". . ."well, you never played in the NFL, so shut it!". . You can't have it both ways.

[@ReignMaker26]

Not following how that is connected to this convo

[@StephenBurns2413]

Wtf are you talking about

[@MrArrow54]

I assume he means people don't respect the opinion of those they think lack lived experience. Like if you've never played men sports you can't understand men's sports or if you've never lived as a woman you can't speak on women's issues. But that's just gatekeeping anyone can become knowledgeable and speak on any subject they chose. It's up to the audience if their interested in the information.

[@IDF_R_HEROES]

Found the hidden racist

[@johnfink3103]

An authentic love of sport trumps everything else, including whether or not someone was a former player. Lately I prefer listening to women talk sports because they come across as much more authentic opposed to just coming up w/ hot takes for clicks and running w/ it.

[@WorldBeater123]

Well said Rachel. You always bring thoughtful analysis to complicated subjects. As a man, I also think Joy is taking way too much heat. First of all, these are allegations by one side. I don’t ever rush to judgement in these situations. I will await judgment until I hear from Joy’s side. Also, Joy is not being accused of sexual harassment, from all accounts these are consensual encounters, if they took place. Also, as you pointed out, most men are mad at Joy for allegedly “saying something” that she never did, I repeat they are mad about something she allegedly said but never did. Thats silly. Again, I’ll wait for the evidence to come out. If there is no text message or record of her saying that I’m sorry but that’s a bunch of BS. People are overreacting and acting like these allegations are facts. They are not facts until proven so. That’s why we have due process. Keep being awesome Rachel.

[@howarddickersonjr.6994]

Well go listen to Marcellus Wiley and listen to him break down the lawsuit and point out to you which parts of the lawsuit are actually factually correct! It’s a fact that she was smashing Acho and the white dude too. That’s not slander it’s just literally a fact. It’s a fact that her relationship with Acho is what led to her replacing Marcellus Wiley on Speak! These are facts confirmed by Marcellus himself, and that man was speaking as a former employee who recognized how a relationship dynamic changed his job completely

[@WorldBeater123]

@ first of all, Marcellus said he never heard that Joy and Dixon hooked up. So you go back and listen to his podcast. And again, it’s not a crime to hookup with a co-worker, so I don’t care if her and Acho hooked up. You also don’t know when Joy and Acho hooked up, could have been after they started working together. Acho is not in control over whether Marcellus had a job, Acho is not in control to start a new show, he’s just on air talent. Again man, stop believing allegations until all the facts come out. This hairdresser was let go by Fox and she could be wanting a pay day. Let it play out

[@lincolnward85]

Waiting for the evidence to come out, whatever that may be since this will most likely be handled behind closed doors in arbitration, is the smart thing to do. That being said, Joy allegedly saying she'd claim rape or some other form of sexual assault after engaging in a consensual relationship because it no longer suits her is a huge problem, and should be focused on. Because typically women can make allegations and with zero proof and no trial that man's life is ruined. So yes this should be focused on if it was a planned abuse of the system.

[@fastbreakreport]

Skip Bayless is 73 years old, are you sure his magic stick still even works? 😂😂😂

[@Bowmanganie]

That dude it roided out to the gills. Probably has drugs for that part of him too.

[@Jukuuuuu]

So you wanted more people to bash Skip instead of Joy?

[@ReignMaker26]

I think it's more about why is everyone latching on to the Joy part, when she was only a minor part of the lawsuit involving actual (alleged) abusers

[@MJKeenan30]

@@ReignMaker26 Maybe, just maybe Joy is getting more bashing because she threatened to falsely accuse a man of a felony to protect her own career. She is by far the worst actor involved in the suit. And if you can't see it, you are either blind or acting in bad faith.

[@ReignMaker26]

@@MJKeenan30 you just proved my point. that part of the story, just like everything else, is an ACCUSATION. not only have you assumed that it is true, you've treated her as if she actually carried out the thing that she is accused of threatening to do. which we know for sure did NOT happen. to call her the worst part of it is wild, when there are people involved who allegedly actually abused people.

[@azforlifetime]

I believe a joke was made by her to Skip Bayless to which she said, "I cost a million dollars". Skips response was, "I'll raise it to a million and a half dollars!". There is absolutely no way anyone is going to pay that woman a million and a half dollars to sleep with her.

[@templehillsfunk]

I'll be honest. As a guy, I really only listen to women in sports media if they can inform me of news about sports. If a player is injured and the sideline reporter is a woman, she can tell me what the injury is and if the player is returning to the game. BREAKING news, insider type news but to be real, man or woman, 99% of the time they aren't telling me anything about the game or sport, I don't already know.

[@510MyTube]

Unfortunately, I do believe joy accusations is devastating and has set women back. Going forward, whenever I see a woman on a sports show and no one has ever heard of her and all of a sudden she's getting major air time, joy situation is always going to pop into my head. women in the media should be piss at her.

[@ReignMaker26]

But the problem with that thought is that it assumes the accusations against Joy are true and ignores the actual (alleged) abusers. I agree that it's a net negative for all women in her position, if true, but why is everyone just latching on to that part, which is only a small part of the lawsuit?

[@kiroolioneaver8532]

@@ReignMaker26 There was a TV show that came out a decade ago about a politican facing a scandal for an affair and his female campaign manager says "As much as this sucks, you're going to be alright. At the end of the day, you're just a man being a man and at the end of the day she's the one on her knees with you [retracted] in her mouth." It's crass but it's true.

[@thatomon123]

@@ReignMaker26 because most people can put 2 and 2 together. Joy gets a big time position sat along side someone like skip who is a veteran in the sportscasting world. Most had never seen or heard of her before but she happens to be very attractive. Also she didn't really offer anything particularly intriguing or insightful in terms of her contribution to the conversation. its natural to assume she there for other reasons, ie the show needed some 'eye candy' or whatever. Then a lawsuit comes out that appears to prove this, then yeah people will obviously latch on to it.

[@improbuslotus]

I've never met a woman that didn't have an escape plan when going about a matter they weren't entirely sure about.....the, "if crap hits the fan, i'll claim I was forced" - this isnt a rare cop-out, this is a common one, especially in the entertainment industry (that doesnt mean they're isnt genuine cases, it just means those ones get overshadowed by the lies). What makes it worse is when caught its a slap on the wrist punishment, while the actual victim is told to be more careful....

[@ericd1269]

I am a grumpy old man, and in my opinion anyone saying women shouldn't talk about men's sports because they did not play are idiots. Most of the men talking about men's sports also never played. It is just a stupid metric.

[@user-ju1nn3lf3c]

I'm progressing towards being a grumpy old man and I agree with your comments. I have little time for commentators who despite playing at the highest level don't know the rules. When a woman who's never played the game gives the correct commentary in social media, she is ridiculed. I'm referring to the World Series game between Washington Nationals and Houston Astros where Trey Turner was (correctly) called out for not running the lane and interfering with the play at first base. The commentators (MLB players) got it wrong. Kate Upton got it right and was ridiculed on social media. I'd rather listen to Kate Upton than those commentators.

[@FTW-xu1yt]

I think Fs1 is getting exactly what they deserve. They've trashed athletes for similar behavior throughout the years, so if they have to be uncomfortable for awhile so be it. Idk what's true or not just yet but everything comes out in the wash.

[@stanches2329]

When i watch or listen to women talk about sports, I don't want a girl on my TV that just reads from a paper majority of the time. I like them to help me learn what i don't know. I also like a little funny, but right to the point. They gotta know about the sport their talking about. I don't care what they look like. My favorite female hosts in sports are Charissa Thompson (NFL), Lisa Roman (Soccer), Alanna Rizzo (Baseball), Rachel DeMita (Basketball), Amanda Scarborough (Softball) . These Apply to men also.

[@johnrose1401]

You are 100% right about this. How many guys have paid for ppl to be quiet.

[@JakeyChan6]

I think it just comes down to what you said about adding to the conversation. People such as Dorris Burke have respected opinions ,because she adds to the conversation. Joy kinda already was not liked and seemed to butt in and not really give great insight then you add in the fact she possibly only got the job because of what is said in the allegations. I think as long as you can give great insight and maybe get people to learn it doesn’t matter man or woman.

[@thetrib1]

"Joy kinda already was not liked and seemed to butt in...." 🤣 and this is also part of the issue. you do realize that for over a year joy has been, at least by fox sports community, respected as someone who gives an opinion about sports. go look at the comment sections on their show throughout this year...many people agreed with joy or disagreed with joy without the implication of doing the "oh she's a woman so she doesn't know what she's talking about.". go look even further back at her own podcast, it's the same thing there. even if people disagreed with joy, her opinion was respected. she of course isn't doris but that's like saying baker mayfield isn't pat mahomes. baker doesnt' need to be pat to be respected. joy was respected. now...did she sleep her way to the top? maybe. but that doesn't change her performance, that just changed her ability to get the opportunity. joy is rare..mina is rare....and a few others. but most women in positions like joys or right below joy's aren't respected as opinionators.

[@JakeyChan6]

@ Whenever I’ve watched that’s what I’ve gained from it. Everyone is entitled to their own opinions. I personally don’t watch much of the mainstream talking heads besides Shannon and Ocho anymore.

[@henrystreet6152]

Honestly, for me, I do only pay attention to women in sports when I find them attractive. I don’t watch much women sports but definitely sometimes view a volleyball game or gymnastics match or the track and field events. As far as media, same thing. Even men dogging Joy now are the same ones who gladly tune in to gawk at her because she’s attractive and most of us are subscribed and watch this channel because Rachel is beautiful. I personally believe this is the overwhelming truth for most men in regard to women sports/media.

[@ericimi]

they said to there friends "enjoy taylor"

[@josedimasvillalpando-gomez7932]

Rachel, just be knowledgeable and line up your comments on the subject being discussed. It’s that simple. If the subject, for example, is throwing a ball, baseball, football, passing in basketball; just make sure you understand the mechanics involved in throwing and make you comment insightful and informative that fits the topic. We can tell when someone knows what he/she is talking about. I remember all the nonsense being vomited regarding CC being left off the US Olympic team! Clark deserved to go based on her statistics compared to those chosen to go. All the other noise was bs and rejected as bs. They made Smith & Sharp look very knowledgeable and intelligent. You look smarter if you keep your mouth shut if you don’t know the topic. You’re informative on what I’ve heard you address and so I follow you; not just because you’re beautiful. Joy from Fox Sports and the drama going on, I’ve never listen to her but for a minute or two until I figured out she didn’t know much of anything.

[@willemraaths1763]

Unlike other podcasters, I really respect you. You don't sit on the fence or choose sides. You tell it straight up and always look at both sides of every topic. Your honesty is very refreshing in this generational era as truth is very hard to find.

[@WhoTFisthatguy]

I don’t know why I thought this chick would try and hold another woman accountable!!!!!!!🤣🤣🤣

[@Justin_Watson23]

Rachel & Mina Kimes really changed my opinion about women commenting on men's sports. It was never an explicit thought, it was more that I just valued the "in sport experience" more. I played football at the college level for 5 years, interned for a semester, & coached college then HS football for a total of 7 years. I believe that experience is where my subconscious biases came from. I acknowledge that it could be the area I live in, but I hear the "slept her way to the top" allegation/talking point from women far more than I hear it from men. I would guess that's probably atypical, but that's just my experience in the wider Ohio Valley area I've lived, played, & coached in.

[@brucevob]

Keep it going Rachel. You have wisdom ,and intelligence, so for me, in all honesty, your the one that I come to every day. I have two daughters that I am very proud of. If I were your father, I would be very happy observing your journey .Continue to grow. I watched many of your videos ,and I would like to mention one thing. Ill make it short. Im from Brooklyn. In a nutshell, that tall person interview was not your shortcoming in any way. I know him, and he chose not to engage because he has always been rude, and disrespectful. He didn t even deserve to be interviewed by such a wonderful young lady ,doing a serious interview. I hope that isn t too much. Great respect to you.

[@billystage]

I don’t know about the situation … but as a man, you are my go to for W news. I don’t really care if the presenter is a man or a woman, but your videos are very well done and very informational. You do a good job on topics.

[@showmusclegomuscle]

3:10 An OF model had a client that paid over 5 million in one year alone…. For just pictures. It happens and if you disagree… you’re a fool. It’s reality. Look up “Charles” Sophie Rains.

[@At76812]

I don't think most guys think that no man would pay that much money.. but for that particular woman, I really doubt it

[@listen2coach]

@@At76812everyone’s got a different fetish, people pay money to watch people eat! TO EAT!!! There’s likely billions of free ASMR videos of people eating online but there are people on twitch paying to watch people eat Nacho with extra cheese. Just cuz it’s not your thing or mine doesn’t mean it’s not Skips

[@showmusclegomuscle]

@ everyone got a type dude. People pay for just foot pics

[@unarepublic]

Accountability for women...THANK YOU! love you for that.

[@xdscgiefkeef8208]

Say it louder!

[@henrymarkson3758]

This was not a rant, it was a level headed take on the issues involved. Good advice for young women in the workforce.

[@amyk6319]

As a woman who worked in the computer field back in its early days, I was always the only female in my department. Because I was young & the only woman in my department, I constantly heard rumors that I must be sleeping with my co-workers or bosses. In every job there will always be people who want to deflect from their own miserable existence, so they love nothing more than to perpetuate & spread negativity about others. And despite what men say, they gossip just as much, if not more than women, the difference is their gossip is usually always focused on who they think is sleeping with who. To me this largest issue is that all female sportscasters must be very beautiful to be successful. You will never see an average looking women doing sports broadcasting. So all women in the field are immediately treated as eye candy & admired for their beauty vs their abilities & knowledge of the sport. But this isn't just a problem in sports, it exists in all media.

[@theshivelyshow5784]

you earned my respect too. never did i think that the girl on 2k would become one of the realest sports commentators 💯 i never feel like you’re saying anything for a reaction or a clip. always have a measured take

[@petermaguire2632]

I am listening to you because you are professional and you are introducing me to the WNBA in a fair and balanced way, and with compassion. Seeing Caitlin for the first time was amazing. Not because of her 3 pointers, but because of her court vision, leadership and skills (and she's only a rookie). Trying to find out more about her and the WNBA was an interesting journey in itself. There was a smokescreen of AI bots sitting between me and the real commentators. Having finally got to your channel, I've been introduced to the real people behind the hype. There are some electrifying women's basketballers out there who were only the butt of Caitlin memes for me a few months ago or who I didn't see because they didn't warrant a meme. There is something amazing about seeing people at the top of their profession displaying physics-defying skills that has always caught my attention. Thanks for your show. Keep it up.

[@joeAnon796]

I went to HS with a girl who became an Olympian basketball player, if she went on a tv show I'd have no reason not to listen to her. Playing the game does give you a lot of credibility but some women only bring their looks. I do blame men for that, not just the man that's doing the hiring but also the men that tune in to watch. Her saying she would put a false charge on him is just atrocious though, IMO if that's true she should never be allowed on any network.

[@folumb]

This take makes so much sense I fear people will start calling her a pick me. There a trash men out there looking for young pretty women. But women aren’t powerless and they don’t need to be clueless. There are ways of dressing and places you go to where you put yourself in harms way. In the ideal world you could do whatever, wherever and whenever but we don’t live there

[@tonyslater7204]

For the record, Skip Bayless is being actively humiliated across social media. More spin from your side acting like Skip Bayless is getting away with something. The Joy Taylor allegations are just more salacious and connected to powerful figures across the industry, so they're getting a larger share of attention.

[@mem5860]

if a women bring real knowledge of the game, everyone will respect her, just become undeniable.

[@Chris12987]

With how extremely attractive Rachel is I can’t even imagine how many guys were creeps with her. It’s sad and unfortunate.

[@jeanfourcade]

Truth: when it comes to entertainement, men do not look at, let alone listen to, homely women. If you haven't got the looks, forget about having a male audience.

[@maxdimes5719]

Jeff Saturday

[@michaelacuna1523]

I tune into your channel regularly and wanna hear your analysis Rachel. Always liked your coverage style.

[@jonc.189]

Joy to the world FS1 has come.

[@randywallace9428]

This is ,14 minutes of my life that I can't get back 😭

[@Nicklpud]

Our social media must be very different, cause i've seen Skip being dogged on just as much as Joy. NO WAY near 10%

[@raz42071]

I'll be honest it was your looks that first got my attention. But what got me to watch everyday was that it wasn't the typical clickbait I would get so sick of. But the actual subject you listed that you would actually talk about. And then realize you wpuld be aligned with my perspective on like 98% of topics you bring up. Man or woman didn't matter. You have been a breath of fresh hearing your perspectives. Because of this your the one channel I watch consistently whenever a new video will come out. I'll take your videos over any NBA or WNBA pregame show every single time.

[@Mirror_of_the_Soul00]

Yeah, she KNOWS why she has over 300,000 subscribers.... because of her looks. Most of her viewers are men. And while she doesn't show cleavage, she DEFINITELY leans into her looks to give the men what they want to see. Typically, her clothes look like they are about to fall off because she wears oversized clothing with her shoulder naked. Unless it is an interesting topic, I ONLY listen to her for women's basketball conversations. In fact, I only have 2 women I am subbwd to in the sports arena and both focus only on women's basketball.... Adrienne Ross and Quita Loves Sports

[@markng6435]

don't matter if you are White or Black or Genders, as long as you know what you are talking about than it is OK with me. I think there are some that knows more than others and that is Ok as long as you acknowledge it . Don't try to BS your way through it.

[@normanbarrett1307]

I started following you because all the other podcasters were cutting you into their shows, so it made sense to just watch the original. When it comes to eye candy and voice, great visuals and easy audio are just part of the full package.

[@EquidusRamalo]

“I was not planning on making another video about this…then I saw my engagement and decided to keep milking the topic”

[@JS96919]

That's how life goes these days.

[@EquidusRamalo]

@ she pretends we don’t know clicks and views isn’t her livelihood. 😂😂😂.

[@OnHandPro]

EXACTLY!!!! She does the same shit with CC.

[@JS96919]

@EquidusRamalo well she has a life probably more of one than any of her viewers honestly. She has met many famous people and created a lot for others.

[@EquidusRamalo]

@ what does that have to do with the price of tea in China?

[@KGeezy99]

Reading your own comments on KZbin and tictok made you ask a question you will never get a answer to. Trust your journey. Having good looks as a host is a plus, but personality for me makes a show. It’s like having that 1 fun teacher in grade school or high school. Makes learning fun.

[@DavidKnicks]

I don't listen to men talking sports. I only listen to the pretty girls that know what they are talking about. That's the truth

[@romyclips6479]

It's not that NO MAN would pay 1.5 million for box, especially if they're loaded like Skip. It's that NO MAN would pay 1.5 million for an LA 6 whose past her prime. 1.5 million is like Dubai, IG model, porta-potty territory. No one is paying 1.5 for an average looking, middle aged woman, to do standard mish. 🤣

[@frederickgramcko5758]

A followed Catlin Clark from her Jr Season onwards, that's how I came across your channel. Love your hoops takes. . .and YES you played, so it does make a difference. Mucho love ❤️

[@Only1Originals]

Both genders can be good or bad at sports media. I have no issue listening to what women say in sports media, as long as it makes sense, and like she said they are adding to the conversation. Joy Taylor wasn’t bad at her job, but if she really said what the lawsuit is accusing and she actually planned to ‘me-too’ the boss, this is going to get ugly real quick

[@ernestoesquivel1182]

I am almost 80 years old. Been here, there and almost everywhere. The older I've gotten the more I realize I know so little. You have an honest approach to your personal endeavor as host & podcast. I just want to make this very simple comment just to make an analogy. People not by choice are born into different families with different races. There are inherent beliefs and prejudices that are just passed along. Male chauvinism has been around since the beginning of time. It's a fact of life and it's not going away. I have had to deal with majority of society who believes anyone not white is a second class citizen. Women suffer the same bigoted attitude and treatment. It's sad that in 2025 we still have to deal with that. We need to live lives of integrity, honesty and achievement to continue to slay those dissident. I am encouraged that women live longer lives. Perhaps you will live to see the day to see the last male chauvinist buried. LOL. Best regards. The Captain.

[@terri-lynncurrie1261]

I find some woman sports casters make wnba more caddy and not about the game but about about judgements and political views! I care about culture but I would just like to watch the girls play and get excited about the players and their skills and game play sick of all the race baiting!

[@ThroneOfGames101]

Those who live in glass houses should not throw stones….. Joy Taylor lived in a glass house, and she threw A LOT of stones at men 🤷‍♂️

[@sirebellum0]

I'm a man, and I will admit my own shallowness: I definitely come for a pretty face but also only stay for merit (I don't even watch ugly dudes). Attractiveness will catch my intrigue but I do care about analysis and want to hear interesting takes at the end of the day, so I just have better things to do than to watch someone who I don't think knows WTF they're talking about. Whether Joy cheated her way to the top (literally) or not, all the people coming out the woodwork claiming "she knows nothing about sports" is truly some confirmation bias/misogyny

[@Jayjon_official]

Love your energy Rachel and you’re so right with what you’ve said. Keep shining

[@fernandolundy3644]

I believe you, Rachel. I believe you, Adrienne Ross and Geneva in General. I am not saying that there aren't any other honest females who report on sports, neither am I saying that I know all of the others. I am just saying that you three, I believe, I respect and appreciate your work.

[@andycrawford7428]

As a man I do not hold the opinion of a woman as high as I do a man who has coached or played the sport they are commenting on A woman commenting on women’s basketball or volleyball that have played certainly makes them better qualified to opinionated

[@aesirgaming1014]

False allegations need to be punished not just because they ruin the victim's reputation, but also because they cheapen the weight of real complaints. For example, in the Army I served as a SARC (Sexual Assault Response Coordinator). Out of the allegations that made it to my desk in two years, over 75% were false allegations. The majority of these (around 50%, maybe just under) were female Soldiers that slept with a guy when drunk, then woke up the next day, regretted it and decided to cry SA instead of owning their mistake. Another large percentage were female soldiers trying to get back at an NCO or officer (usually an NCO) that had punished them recently. The rest were mostly cases where everyone (alleged victim, alleged perpetrator and witnesses) were too intoxicated to prove reliable witnesses. This is also why I say never take the number of reports to DoD at face value. The vast majority are unsubstantiated or outright false. Punishments need to be strict for false reporting, as each false report takes resources away from real victims.

[@GiantDwarf2718]

I watch you because I appreciate what you have to say. I was pleasantly surprised to find that you are a rare voice of reason, without the obnoxious fanfare, in a sea of clickbait and repetitive noise machines. I was not aware of your past experiences in sports and in media, but it comes through in an authentic, professional yet humble way, and it does add value. A lot of people who like to share their opinions sound like they know what they're talking about. You sound like you talk about what you know. And yes, you are pretty, which doesn't hurt, together with your demeanor, which seems comfortably confident and unassuming. Keep it real!

[@simba5734]

Let me try and understand what you're saying. These are some of the issues mentioned about Taylor in the lawsuit: - Receiving preferential treat for jobs opportunities w/out a lot of experience - Allegedly having a consensual, sexual affair w/ company employee/supervisor while married - Allegedly having a sexual affair w/ co-worker - Allegedly cheating on husband - Allegedly husband divorces her because of affair w/ co-worker/supervisor - Engagement to another man broken due to alleged affair w/ company employee/supervisor being discovered - Allegedly bullying co-worker or under study w/ name calling and making fun of her language barrier - Allegedly ignoring co-worker's plea for help and understanding - Allegedly threatening to falsely accuse company employee/supervisor of SA or R These are a few of the things I read in the lawsuit. I could be wrong but that's what I understood the lawsuit was saying. Please help me understand.

[@beetlejuice8431]

If a woman is not pretty and reports on sports you can be pretty certain that she knows what she's talking about

[@winstonw2020]

Great video Rachel. I do think what allegedly Ms. Taylor did has hurt women in sports. In terms of what I look for? Tbh I actually really don't care if it's a man or woman, as long as they know their stuff and aren't too opinionated about a team or athlete during the broadcast. I enjoy your work cause you do back up your thesis with stats and you don't inject your personal opinions too hard into the content. Have a great week.

[@leonn7763]

oh no, Skip has been getting fried out here, it might just be the algorithms re what you are seeing. Another thing is it relates to sports media which constitutes like 90% men whether employed or an active audience . Other than that you are absolutely killing it with your takes, I'm sure these topics hit different for you being in the industry and what you've probably faced personally but as a viewer I wouldn't be able tell by the way you present, you seem very self-aware, composed , accountable and not jaded by cognitive biases. Hope to see you on the next level.

[@gaylejohnson2211]

Another good Rant Post Rachel ❤ I congratulate you on personally finding a path that has enabled you to be able to survive and then thrive in a male dominated industry 👏 My question is should you have had to? My answer is No! I believe Woman should be given a level playingfield as the men but in reality we know that’s simply NOT the case. I’m so pleased you didn’t take the “easy” way and persevered with great confidence and self worth and strong female belief in yourself and abilities …. I bet your Mum and Dad are very proud of their daughter ❤️

[@Kware56]

I also had a friend who was offered a million dollars for a single night. I asked her how she could possibly know if he was serious and she looked at me like "isn’t it obvious “ 😂

[@YoungRobertRedford]

Charissa Thompson, Elle Duncan and Katie Nolan are the gold standards.

[@sparty837]

If the Taylor stuff is true, then the Dixon stuff is true. I believe it all is true because I have seen women get promotions in corporate world because they are sleeping with senior management. Taylor was terrible at her job which indicates that it is all true. The big problem is HR didn't do anything.

[@tonyslater7204]

8:42 - 8:55 You hit the nail on the head. You can't lecture us into caring. You've been trying for decades now to absolutely no avail. Quit.

[@social_goes_static]

Clicked on the video for the pretty face in the thumbnail, stayed for the fair and engaging insights. This was last year, around the time of the wnba draft. The video was (I want to say) a reaction of the draft or a reaction on something awesome that CC did. Been watching ever since. 👍 First time commenting on any of your videos, btw. 😅

[@TheBestAccEver]

Some people are just sexist, and there's nothing you can really do to change their minds but tune them out and focus on the people who are open minded. Same with any bigoted person.

[@ckono5991]

Thanks for talking about this again even if you didn’t want to. I’m sure I’m not the only one who appreciates hearing your thoughts on the headlines, especially when speaking from experience 🙂

[@Bkshrimpkeeping]

The Eye Candy is a plus, but as a man into sports, I listen whoever is talking when he or she knows what he or she is talking about. That is all that matters, but yes the Eye Candy doesn’t hurt. And as a high level boss with lots of employees, I just stay away. I’m currently on a business trip and every morning people say, “how come you weren’t at dinner last night”.. I just stay away and don’t put myself at risk. However, it’s not that easy for all men, especially if that man is not experienced with women. I’m used to having attention from women, so it’s a lot easier to take control and not get caught up when they throw themselves at me .But for the men who are not used to women’s attention, they are the ones that fail and get caught up in the drama.

[@MrsBStacyBattleBorn]

With all that is being said, wouldn't some of this crap have been caught on security footage inside the building or on someone's phone? There is so much tech in the workplace today that the he said- she said stuff shouldn't be what people have to rely on to determine who is telling the truth.

[@djamellallouti2035]

Legally, this situation is going to turn into " she said, he said", those are hard to prove unless there is some paper trail, like a check to make it believable.

[@tonyslater7204]

9:14 - 9:20 Yes!!! You got it!!! Demonstrate your value through merit and achievement!!! Don't just continually whine about how evil men won't let you be a superstar. Do what men do, and go out and earn it.

[@tonyslater7204]

@@remfan170 I would never defend Dixon. He is the MOST despicable party in all of this. Just don't cap about how evil men are while performing sexual favors for powerful men to get ahead.

[@lando9flo]

Straight up.. you have morales…. You built your brand on your own. This Taylor lady could have done the same thing BUT she didn’t. She played the system… now she’ll NEVER pay for these actions. She’ll only set back women…because #womendontsupportwomen .. they’ll support trans women though!? 🤣🤣

[@PIRATEGAMEING]

Also saying you played “ basketball at a high level “ is really off putting , you played women’s basketball in college in most people only know that because you mention it , not because of your play , don’t just say basketball! Put the women’s on it lol