Rachmaninoff with Special Guest: Cellist Jan Vogler | Tiffany Vlogs #80

[@TiffanyPoonpianist]

P. S. Tickets are on sale now for the recital in Bologna :) bit.ly/2oROIUy

[@Canada4evr]

Like the Steinway version.

[@bereabeard]

I'm sitting here in the middle of the USA, watching an American girl born in Hong Kong playing piano, with a musician playing a cello made in Italy and who was born in East Berlin, on a piece written by a Russian composer, and filmed in Germany. Ain't life grand!?!! Love ya Tiffany! ❤️

[@michaelpark5681]

I'm writing this on a laptop made in China. Am I as cool as you too?

[@lolimintegui5629]

Sweet that is the right word for such sound

[@camilloflaim8933]

I have readed all ; my cell it's Huawei , made on Italy.

[@camilloflaim8933]

Can to be that not play the 3° concerto of Rachmaninov but play some importants compositions of Liszt and Chopin. WOW very long for these.

[@dopesensi]

Yes the Internet is good for entertaining Americans...

[@AnnaKhomichkoPianist]

Amazing collab and it's very kind and open-minded from Jan Vogler to appear in your vlog! Viel Spaß ;)

[@TiffanyPoonpianist]

I know right?? I'm so happy he agreed :)

[@AnnaKhomichkoPianist]

Tiffany Poon totally! :)

[@WhatTheFuckMonkey]

@@TiffanyPoonpianist totally unrelated, but you are the most beautiful person I have ever seen 😍 art is anything that moves you so you, Tiffany, are a work of art ❤️

[@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797]

@@WhatTheFuckMonkey I agress

[@albertweedsteinthethuggeni7797]

@@WhatTheFuckMonkey agree

[@leongatha6]

Aside from the great music, Tiffany you have created and will continue to create a priceless and magnificent record of the life and life works of one of the greatest artists that is unique in the history of music and videos. We've enjoyed hearing you and watching you for over 15 years now; I hope I live long enough to hear you for more years, you just get better and better.

[@just_peachy7344]

I absolutely love the editing! The transitions from video to video have gotten a lot better and smoother and I really enjoyed the whole video !

[@TiffanyPoonpianist]

Haha thank you - editing takes practice too 😅!

[@Joe_Peroni]

My sentiments entirely. I was trying to formulate this in my somewhat hungover head. As it is, sweet, excellently performed music such as this from these two musicians is an great accompaniment to a Panodol. Or two.

[@shiorit4292]

Bluthner and gut strings... sounds so moving. And totally agree that it helps us imagine how the music was concieved those time. So moving...!

[@shiorit4292]

Of course the modern collaboration sounds good too! Very profound video!!! Thank you so much desu.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

I was there, lucky me :) At least in the Frauenkirche. Thank both of you for that performance.

[@michaelgamble296]

Hums - the Dresden AMEN quietly . . . . .

[@Altroante]

Gut strings and Bluthner sounded AMAZING together. WOW!

[@timotot123]

Absolutely agree. It was like a fine wine. Just gets better with age

[@mirmaflute]

It's difficult to compare the two exhibitions due to the different ambient acoustics. However, for this type of romantic music the cello with modern strings sounds probably better.

[@benwong6899]

also just because that's what we've grown accustomed to already

[@s.l5787]

Not just different acoustics but it is mic'd completely differently. Look how much upfront the modern cello sound is, that is not just purely difference in strings.

[@barsorrro]

I concur. I'm not expert and can't judge all the reasons -- clearly, the acoustics of the chamber being a huge factor -- but I liked the "modern" sound much, much better. I do appreciate the variety and "non-linearity", also sometimes a certain "grittiness" of the older instruments, which often yield character, personality and lyricism to a performance. However, I found the clarity, definition and the round, reverby quality of the Steinway+metal strings rendition much more fitting for this dreamy, "stellar" piece of music.

[@jen43072]

I would have wanted the Blutner to have been voiced a little more warm for my taste with that cello with gut strings. I liked the more modern instruments but it may be because my ear is used to it. I liked the warmth of the cello with the gut strings, but felt the modern instruments matched better? I don't know how much sense that makes

[@helgar791]

Jan Vogler played beautifully on the gut strings, but on the steel strings he was sublime. He brought out the inner beauty of the movement without being maudlin or flashy. You had a wonderful touch throughout the piece and a great feel for the colors the piano lends to the this sonata. The Bluthner and gut strings was predictably warmer than the Steinway and steel. The period feel was more intimate and inviting. The modern strings and piano had a nice bell like tone and dynamism that I loved. Both sounded wonderful. Bravo to both of you.

[@mwwilkin]

I enjoy the steinway and steel strings cello. It has a strong rich sound especially the cello I like best. A little bias for being a cellist myself. Amazing performance!!! Hope I get to see you perform someday!

[@lol-ho5qd]

how can you say that hahahah the 1st part especially was much better with the Bluthner and gut strings, i mean maybe, i just like it better idk just my opinion, but even though you're a cellist, you liked the one with the steel strings more. hm :/

[@Jorf88]

I'll chime in as a cellist. Gut strings sound and feel wonderful. They are warm and mellow, they don't have any of the "harshness" that modern metal core strings have. This is especially noticeable for the higher pitched strings (the A string on a cello). The two main "issues" with gut strings is that they don't last anywhere near as long, and they are quieter (Jan touches on this quite a bit). Gut strings are also more sensitive to their environment than metal strings are, so excessive humidity or extreme temperatures cause much more expansion/contraction than you would get with steel strings. Additionally (a more in-depth explanation to their shorter total lifespan), gut strings will keep stretching out. Consequently, you'll have much more tuning to do every time you pick up your instrument. With steel strings that have been on an instrument for at least a month or so, they'll have stretched out as much as they really want to, and you'll often go between playing sessions with minimal amounts of tuning necessary. You'll never get to that point with gut strings, they'll keep stretching . (Obviously there is some oversimplification here, because even metal strings continue to stretch, but the amount is minuscule after some initial amount.) As to the performances... The smaller Blüthner performance was more musical. I find that those finalized practice sessions usually are. It's more of a musical conversation between you and Jan... The other performance is still great, but it has that slight "coldness" that live performances of sonatas often convey.

[@AiMR]

I was wondering, do you just let the gut be gut? Or do you find yourself compensating in your playing to sound more like the steel?

[@murattaner7384]

Hey.... 'the other performance ' was colder because steel is colder than gut . :)))))

[@abrogard142]

yep. I think in the beginning they try to play together... but it's not until they get the confidence that they are together that they feel they can 'play apart' and that's when they really 'play together' - giving us a piece of music like two dancers rather than two soldiers in step.

[@BolivarZoar]

It’s amazing how, even through screen, I can still feel Rachmaninoff's heavy romantic voice that makes your heart sink to the bottom of your chest. It’s absolutely incredible that you continue to spread this music in which is so meaningful in our lives and allows us to see a different side to emotions. Emotions that words can’t merely explain; only music.

[@topturretgunner]

I am quite enamored with the warmth and richness of the Bluthner and the Aloquat tuning. The combination of the Bluthner and the gut stringed cello was very nice and fell pleasantly on the ear. Love ya Tiffany. All the best. God bless and watch over you.

[@just_peachy7344]

Oh my gosh I’m so happy for you this was such a good opportunity for you !!

[@Presalagor]

This is such a treat and a great vlog. Jan Vogler was magnificent in his explanations and playing.

[@TiffanyPoonpianist]

Indeed, he was!

[@timotot123]

@@video1248Maybe when you reach your 1000 subscribers she'll consider your request 😂😂😂. That is a very demanding repertoire there you've listed

[@PeterAJones]

I thought that the transitions in the video between the two setups were seamless, giving the perfect comparison. Normally intonation would be a challenge - different instruments, different locales, temperature, humidity etc.. but it seemed flawless to my ear. My applause to such an editing achievement;

[@leguezennecx]

I Love the blutner. Golden fingers delivering tears to our soul. Rachmaninov unbelievably so powerfull.

[@vivatmusica]

Absolutely stunningly beautiful performance. Loved the intimacy and warmth of the gut strings/Blutner particuarly, but Jan and Tiffany play this wonderful piece so well, it doesn't really matter which setting!

[@ajadrew]

I loved both sounds...& when Jan came in at the beginning my spine tingled bringing tears to my eyes Tiffany. Thank you for your continual inspiration..;-))

[@modernmozart813]

You and him could make many concerts,so so so lovely!

[@victorkhong7654]

The Bluthner with gut strings on the cello at 8:15 to 8:18 was sublime. The Bluthner and gut cello sound more organic and yes intimate as if the soul was singing. The Bluthner lacks the power and the shrill definition of the Steinway. In Jan's intro he said gut strings with period instruments and I think that match is very very pleasing to the ear. Magnificent!

[@bh5606]

The editing looks flawless.

[@dead-prophet]

Your video editing skills are immaculate, I applaud you. And to answer your question, the Blüthner piano and gut strings cello were my favorite pairing. There is something unique and beautiful about the light and fluid sound of the Blüthner 1910 and the textured sound of the gut strings. Thank you for sharing this with your YT community.

[@Trev0r98]

They make beautiful music together.

[@alialloush3579]

HOW BEAUTIFUL!!! this is so extraordinary co-operation between a talented pianist and an open minded expert... thank you

[@meriggiar]

I live in Italy, for being born here, a country that Italians don't deserve, believe me; but we won't have it for much longer. Thank you, miss Tiffany Poon for bringing us this wonderful recital. Personally, I mostly trust the new technologies, which use metals and special materials. However, the small imperfections, the aesthetics and the care that these ancient instruments require, create an acutely romantic atmosphere, which gives birth to falling in love and dreams of all kinds! 🤔 (Emilio Delfio, from facebook)

[@PapaKryptoss]

You are truly blessed with your talents

[@rhamzaful]

Gut string and bluthner sound so warm while the other pair sounds bright. Love them both still! :)

[@serafin1719]

You played your piano part so extremely beautiful - I never heard any pianist bring the voices out in such an intelligent and emotional way !

[@michaelgamble296]

Now THAT is an extremely observant remark. Not every pianist has the ability to show the different voices in a piece of piano music - though I must say my friend Luiza Borac has that ability in 'spades'. She has made her mark with her fellow countryman Georges Enescu's compositions - and how wonderful they are, and how incredibly difficult too!

[@imqqmi]

Loved your performance. Cello is one of my favourite instruments to listen to and hearing you perform with one just made my day. There's something different about you, your eyes sparked when you talked in the video 😊 Seems it brought your music to a new level! Keep up the great work!

[@FolkJazzChannel]

Girl, that piece without a page-turner, ufff... And bravo , these are fantastic performances!

[@ArakakiCC]

Both performances were beautiful in their own way ❤️. The sound of the cello with gut strings was so unique! I love the sweetness of the Bluthner as well. You are amazing, love your vlogs!

[@James_Bowie]

Absolutely beautiful! And you are a superb accompanist.

[@greatfulrippledeadgreatful1024]

I loved the steinway version but only because of the echo of the building. The cello was astonishing. AS are you ... I adore you...

[@timothymcneil577]

I'll just say I'm a sucker for authenticity, and so gut strings always make me happy. So warm 😊

[@atomicdiscobiscuit]

OMG, this piece evoked some deep emotions in me. I totally wanted to cry... Thank you both for this magical performance!!!!

[@zavierfabijan4055]

I really enjoyed the Bluthner version, I think you were right with your description it speaks to your soul more. It sounds more emotive than modern instruments in my opinion. The Steinway sounded crisp and clear and very coherent but the almost smoothness of the Bluthner is much more beautiful.

[@alexismandelias]

I closed my eyes to fully enjoy this beautiful performance. I opened them to find myself in a church

[@winwinnie4905]

i had the same experience! amazing

[@kevinpeet3581]

EXCITING, Tiffany, EXCITING!! I am so happy for you (and for us, too). Again, THANK YOU so much for allowing us to be part of your joy and your journey. For me, the sound in the Kirche was much better, so I enjoyed that more. I loved the wood-y sound of the cello there, it was quite glorious. That would be my preference.

[@dt6653]

The first time I saw you on KZbin was when you played Beethoven's Moonlight sonata and I was hooked. Thank you that performance and all the others that you have played.

[@folkeholmberg3519]

I liked that Blüthner piano and also that cello with organic strings. ❤️❤️

[@clamayaceo]

This was a phenomenal vlog! Enjoyed the Rachmaninoff cello sonata you performed with Jan Vogler. Beautiful. Loved the comparison between the performances on the Blüthner and gut strings on the cello and the Steinway and steel strings on the cello. Loved the history discussed by Jan Vogler on the piano and the cello, as well as the concept of the specific pairing of these instruments. A well-deserved congratulations on your upcoming concert in Moritzburg and this new announcement of your November concert in Bologna, Italy with Jan Vogler again!

[@claudioparrella183]

non sono nato ieri

[@shuanggeng4833]

a satisfaction watching your vLog after a day coming home

[@jakiejan3017]

Can't wait to see you here in Italy Tiffany! I'm so happy for you to come! Thank you ❤️

[@PeterHontaru]

I really appreciate how much work you put into editing, particularly with videos like this one where you record across longer periods of time :)

[@BrickHD05]

Thank both of you for this. It was truly amazing the difference between the two. Both are absolutely beautiful but I do prefer the intimacy of the gut strings and warmth of the Bluthner. I am a lover of music mostly Jazz but classical speaks to me as well. And it is what music make you feel as much as hear that makes it special. If music doesn't touch you then it is more back ground noise to go with watching TV while texting. I thank you both for opening my world to more of what I love.

[@BingDwenDwen]

Considering all these ancient pianos and instruments, shows us that good sounding music is really a relative concept. Because ancient musicians had in comparison to modern days quite limited set of instruments, but they still able to compose the most wonderful pieces with it, and at that time to their ears and the ears of their audience, it sounded wonderful aswell. so good sounding music is really what you are acustomed to and can vary due to personal taste, so there is no absolute.

[@xlorange]

Man, I love how warm the gut strings sound, but I also love the sound of the Steinway so so much

[@georgezheng1279]

Your Vlogs are wonderful and exciting to watch and enjoy!!

[@wayanmitha6165]

Bluthner and got string can take me back to that time... the vibe is so magical

[@jkennis9]

Meister Vogler certainly demonstrates very fine choice in collaborators!

[@JuanCarlosChavezFdez]

Steel strings => strong, short Gut strings => mild, extended Blüthner 1910 => extended, broader Steinway => sharp, defined

[@MrInterestingthings]

The performance spaces in Europe are so resonant of all human history; so beautiful ! So wonderful to hear u and Volker in this music!

[@luhuagang7146]

Brilliant performance and wonderful post processing. The two sets of instruments were interlaced seamlessly.

[@esdrabarreto260]

Your passion is contagious!

[@elizabethmorton6778]

Both interpretations are very different and both are beautiful. No favourites here. Thank you both very much. ❤️

[@Yue117]

It's refreshing to watch talented real people like yourself Tiffany. If I had the money I would definitly go see you at Bologna in November

[@gwynnnelson3084]

Thank you, one of my favorite pieces of music. I can't decide but find the differences fascinating.

[@TheWFamilyMusic]

hard to decide, which setup sounds better, since the rooms are different and clearly influencing the sound a lot. but i almost would go with the "old" setup. The Blüthner has an incerdible warm sound as well as the cello has. Anyway a joy to listen to you both, no matter what. it makes me sad, i did not make it to Dresden...

[@MrChochulchang]

Cello with Steinway in the stone vault, definitely. Loved everything about it. The sound... the sight... the look on the people in the background... I was transported to that vault. Thank you Tiffany for the vlog!! This is probably my favorite one now!

[@LisaRupingCheng]

Wow Amazing Vlog Tiffany. What beautiful Cello sound Jan brought us!

[@onetime5640]

Love your video ! Thank you !

[@rachelpeham4800]

I love Blüthner Pianos. Maybe my Fav

[@guipe43]

We can hear Kinderszenen playing. It is such a beautiful composition! Its Fast zu ernst is absolutely gorgeous, and so tender, so expressive!

[@j_go.]

You make me want to listen to classical music more than I already do. :)

[@petrobepmarktplaats6329]

Thank you for this Tiffany

[@stephenpercy54]

I enjoyed both performances. At a small concert hall I would prefer to listen to the Bluthner and gut strings but my ageing ears would benefit from the modern instruments at any larger venue. Thanks for posting. Stephen

[@rachelpeham4800]

Beautiful cutting of the Rachmaninov piece ❤💕💘💯

[@HR_Racc]

Very nice song. I think I've never had a song that really speaks to someone.

[@joycechahinepiano]

Playing this next week for a concert! Isn’t it absolutely huge for the piano??? Encompasses the entire human experience.

[@MusicistaCSH]

Such a fantastic comparison of sounds!

[@meaningwhat8371]

Your vlog is enjoyable to watch and follow...thanks for the insight to your professional world.

[@Olav3D]

Beautifully played!

[@holypeachy]

I don't listen to a lot of cello, but it was very different i noticed it immediately. It really is something

[@johneyon5257]

i wasn't familiar with the sonata and i enjoyed this achingly romantic piece very much - well done by the both you - there isn't enuf difference between the older & modern instruments to come across the video - and since i'm won't be present - the choice doesn't matter - what matters for me was that this was a wonderful time spent

[@Anna-jl7gy]

I loved gut strings with Bluthner! I agree with what you said. And I personally like the sound of old pianos

[@rjlee818]

We use to play tennis with gut strings. Had a great tactile feel.

[@ericafey8958]

Hahaha I guess that's one way to know

[@crshuby]

I played tennis in the old days with a wood racquet. I loved the feel of that wood racquet. When I switched to an aluminum frame racquet it took me a long time to get used to the feel. I had to switch though to get more power on my strokes because I couldn't complete with the wood racquet anymore.

[@tchaikoffkey]

Funnily enough, a brand of double bass strings started out as tennis strings for that reason lol (Corelli solos)

[@michaelgamble296]

Yes!! And I used to know Fred Perry - who restrung them!! Those were the days!!

[@AMGOSUK]

My Tinnitus and I very much appreciated the tone of the gut strung cello and the older (and less bright) piano -- and of course wonderful playing by you both.

[@vikram785]

Personally, I think the Steinway was better but gut strings on Stradivarius better than steel strings. But both were amazing performances! Lovely piece too!!! :) And I must say - that transition between the two locations was perfect! Well done! :)

[@danielmok3762]

Hey this was uploaded on my birthday!

[@vallanddess]

This is just beautiful, despite the challenging acoustics. Nice Tiffany and Jan. Also, I think I preferred the Steinway.

[@lamegoldfish6736]

I enjoyed your music very much. Very neat to see you two playing together. Thank you.

[@cantante189]

I had no idea what to expect from your playing, as this was the first time I have watched one of your videos, because the Rach is one of my very favorite composers - I was very impressed with the sensitivity of your playing and listening to your collaborator. Great work!

[@adamundaneedge2472]

This gave me a warm feeling in my heart ♥️

[@josephbradley1781]

Wow! Just , wow! I loved the older piano and the new cello with stellar strings. I agree with you that the piano has so much soul. But the steel strings on the Cello has so much more depth. A combo that I would gladly pay for.

[@NikolaosEnmetanoia]

Amazing as always. I would prefer the combination Blüthner piano with steel-stringed cello

[@basspig]

Speaking of old Steinway pianos, the best sounding one I've ever heard is it the Pequot Library in a small town near Fairfield in Connecticut. It's an 1896 vintage and has the quintessential Steinway sound.

[@zjaml]

OMG, your collaboration is so beautifully done! This is definitely one of my favorite vlog of you! Also loved the editing, feels like time travel, but very smooth, the change in scene give me goosebumps.

[@Jcorban08]

Thanks so much for this awesome vlog. What a privilege to see and listen. It was very enjoyable, fascinating and educational! I liked both old and new versions. If I had to choose, I suppose it would be the Steinway/steel strings. Not sure why, maybe because it’s a more familiar sound? What an exquisite piece performed by 2 superbly musical musicians. I wish I was there too!! The editing looks professional! Thanks again....

[@idkman2633]

Omg the sound in the church cellar. Could you upload the full recording of it?

[@charliechang7186]

Very interesting Vlog. Beautiful music....love the switching of scenes, felt as watching a movie...Brilliant, thanks，Tiffany.

[@modernmozart813]

Every single piece sounds heaven !!And you are happy too .🥰🥰

[@ryan.s3992]

The both were beautiful and I prefer the bluthner and gut string it was stunning

[@lorih5915]

Thoroughly enjoyed!❤️

[@einsteindrieu]

Black Steinway and Steel cello strings kick ass sound you two Sound Great !!!!

[@gerardmazzarese9363]

I once owned a straight string 7 foot Broadwood semi grand dated 1880. I also got to see and touch a piano once played by Chopin on his tour through England. This was at a large English estate home built in the gothic style. In my youth I thought it was so special to just touch the keys.

[@nyc0053]

okay. 6:49 Where do I start! Okay, here> This was spectacular!! I awoke to such an Exquisite performance. Also, I've learned via this performance that my second favorite instrument is, Cello. Violin is 3rd. Piano remains number one. Honestly Tiffany, I’m happy to know you through KZbin. You are fantastic! I value the person you are, and, are becoming. I'm actually speechless, though there are a lot of words. Thank you BOTH. By the way, I prefer, Steel Strings & Steinway Piano.

[@murattaner7384]

Very useful video for me. Thank you very very much :)))

[@luky46]

Beautiful performance