Racing Catamaran as a Minimalist Liveaboard? | Sailing Soulianis - Ep. 3

[@bellmichael]

I built NICE PAIR in 1985 as a weekender coastal racer/cruiser and she has had a life...stolen in Florida when new, spotted in the Turks, spotted in the Virgin Islands, found in PR, US Marshals seized in PR, tied up in PR two years in Federal Court, sailed to the DR to work as a day charter boat, sailed to Belize to do day charters, sailed to Florida for a refit, sold to guy in Michigan who broke the original wing mast and bought the mast it has now, sold to Bruce Geffen in Michigan who won more races over 12 years with her than you can count, sold to a collector of famous boats in Reno and raced twice in the Race to Alaska, sold again and now off to a lake in Texas...wow. www.offshorecatamarans.com... check it out

[@bellmichael]

This Cat is like a 911 Porsche and you need a big motor home type RV.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Michael, there is so much to like about Nice Pair. You know that feeling when you step onto a boat for the first time? Ya, we had it. We felt a certain sense of wanting to take care of this boat, this inanimate object. It's crazy isn't it?! We fought long and hard with the seller to try and come to a reasonable agreement. (+6 months of negotiating.) We even agreed on a price at one point and thought the boat was ours! We were over the moon. Most of our sailing experience has been on multi-hulls, and we really liked the concept you had of adding a deckhouse as an eventual option. We're young and don't need much for extended voyaging. A hard-topped dodger and she would of been our dream minimalist Bahamas boat. And the fact we could pop her back on the trailer if we wanted to zip back up to the lakes was icing on the cake. I've been following your 60' build and love the new hulls. Our long-term goal is to build and I really like your design. We''ll be in your neck of the woods this winter, I'd love to sit down and chat with you at some point if you're open to it.

[@1nvisible1]

Nah, the 911 is a perfectly functional daily driver with good visibility.. Nice pair is like a beautiful vintage yet fast ferrari with the pedals offset a foot to the center you almost have to sit sideways in...

[@jaysparc]

You are very lucky not to have bought it, that boat is a nightmare from a structural and maintenance perspective. You'd end up building it over again.

[@ellenorbovay5226]

Good Grief! Its been kidnapped by criminals, good thing you didn't buy that! Who knows what sort of abuse they did to it.

[@john3Lee]

Eleven years together..... You are so nice with each other, I assumed you had only just met. And this is lovely to observe - true love ❤️❤️

[@SailingSoulianis]

Thanks John! We both have a sense of adventure and a passion for the water/ocean. We met on the waterski team in college. Sailing together and traveling by water has been a shared dream of ours ever since!

[@id10tcertified]

Ditto, so many couples out sailing nowadays, doing KZbin (without kids) and there’s no closeness between them at all.. I get some are private and don’t like pdoa but some are just so distant, an arm around a partner who’s a foot away and she/he doesn’t even lean over: maybe it’s the long boring passages over a few years? Eleven years and you both still glow, a good sign the dream won’t destroy that... to say you guys are on the same page would be an understatement and so nice to see. Off topic a bit... I never get the players with multiple partners, one must be the best of however many so how can anyone even think that being with anyone else is fun when fact is it’s second or less best (just my view of that part of life) I wish but at 64? A wealth of health and happiness to you guys: this vid is a bit old now and the first I’ve seen so I’ll be trolling KZbin to sea (pun intended) where you’re at.

[@meestahwah]

The San Juan Islands and the general pacific NW crushing grounds are an amazing place to spend a LOT of time gunkholing. I grew up as a kid sailing these waters and still do today. When you get the opportunity, I strongly suggest you return one day to explore this area. It is incredibly unique and wonderful.

[@1nvisible1]

Maybe my favorite of your videos. Would love to see a brutal b-roll cut of the video on how that thing disassembles. Almost as cool as that multi hull that can crawl on land. Good on ya, good luck, and thanks!

[@ChildrenOfWhistler]

Watched this vid on a whim as i was like " can you live aboard a race boat...?" and now I've subscribed... You 2 seem genuinely happy and chill. I like it. Looking forward to seeing where you end up.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Cheers, thanks so much!

[@SailingBritaly]

Great video Lauren & Kirk! You have a great editing style and the chemistry you have for each other comes across naturally on screen. You two are naturals and will go very far! We're rooting for you... Fair winds! Chris, Rossella & baby Emma 👍

[@SailingSoulianis]

Hey guys, appreciate the compliments! Cheers!

[@SailingBritaly]

👍

[@BillyBob-fq2sr]

Just wanted to let you know how much my wife and I are enjoying your adventure in sailing(and life). We are not sailors. But love the water. Live in the Pacific northwest and found this episode very interesting. Especially your stay on Orcas Island. We were married at the Orcas Hotel and spent our wedding night in the same room you stayed in. We almost fell on the floor. Looking forward to more of your stories and adventures. Good luck and enjoy life.

[@LDMendenhall]

Nice video, you two seem sincerely nice. I have been sailing since 1975, my wife’s favorite of our boats was the last we purchased, a 32 foot Fountaine Pajot catamaran. No heeling thus no anxiety for her. Your trip wasn’t wasted, look at the nice places and people you met. That boat would have been a huge project, and boat reconstruction is fun but sailing is more fun. And the weigh of a bridgedeck house may have made performance suffer too much. Good decision. Now you’ve hooked me, I look forward to what you have done after that adventure.

[@travelwithus750]

Just found you guys. Oddly enough I don’t own a boat nor do I plan to but I love anything nautical and spending all the time I can on the ocean. Can’t wait to watch yalls adventure. Safe travels y’all.

[@atw98]

As a sailor of 40 years starting at 5, giving away my age. As soon as you entered the port hull I had my fingers crossed you didnt buy her. She looked gr8 but soooo many patches cracks and peeling O plus bogged up or what. Its a blessing. Being in the US you have so many boat yards with boats you could sell here in Australia for thousands and they sell there for 100's due to the huge market and shear numberof neglected boats. Look forward to seeing what you get of you haven'talready bought. Hey dont disregard the Wharams they would be the most built boat in the world, cats anyway, and the way the walk over the larve swell and the cost of up keep being peanuts great world cruisers. Best wishes from Australia

[@hughlawson1051]

Kudos to both of you for considering that screamer as a live-aboard. And also congrats for regretfully saying no.

[@artsmith103]

I hope to cruise the San Juans so really liked the scenery. Just found this episode so maybe there are others I missed. Old news now, but that goodness you left that 1 behind.

[@drunkenfoolable]

Boat owner and sailor here. Massive bullet dudged. Do not try to make a boat something it is not. No mater how cheap it is to buy. Making the changes to that boat to make it a liveabord would also kill any acutal vaule of the boat. Hold out for a boat that is 90% of what you want.

[@BruceGeffen]

Hi Hi! Good seeing you again! I am the former owner from here on the Great Lakes and the one who renamed the catamaran "Nice Pair." We sure had tons of fun on her all over the Great Lakes, whether we were racing or cruising or day sailing. I would live aboard her for most of the summer months. "Nice Pair" looks a little different than when I owned her. There was a bit more of a more accommodating set up down below in both hulls, though quite bare. The owner that bought it from me and was trying to sell her to you went through and did a really excellent job of structural upgrades and updates. She is, after all, 32 years old being built in 1985. In the end, I am glad you ended up with the boat you did. "Nice Pair" would have been quite a project, though rewarding. She would have made an excellent cruise/live aboard if you had more time and expendable cash. The most important thing for me was that you did get a good vibe from her, and she made you both feel comfortable and at ease. I am looking forward to your next installment. All the best!

[@SailingSoulianis]

Hey Bruce! Thanks so much for filling in the gaps of Nice Pair's history. Sounds like she was outfitted perfectly for your adventures while you owned her. She is definitely a cool boat (was she not, Kirk wouldn't have pursued the deal for so long! ;). Very much hope she ended up in good hands.

[@BruceGeffen]

magentawave I renamed her "Nice Pair." She was "Whahoo" before that, and originally "El Tigre." Also, I had painted her a dark grey, almost black when I first bought her. She was Corvette blue before that.

[@gilleden3663]

Bruce Geffen you

[@ray_glaze]

Nice to see my neighborhood in your video. I'm glad you had nice weather for your trip.

[@RenegadeADV]

That would have been a cool boat, wish I had known you guys were up here looking at Boats, there is another Spencer 42 like mine up here for sale in Tacoma, great solid boat. Good luck on the search!

[@SV-DEDICATED]

I'm finding this very entertaining (I do like boat search vids) That boat would have been tough to live on.

[@gkarjala]

I could live in a spinach can with a mast stuck in it. Speciayl with that girl. No offense inttended.

[@tinmanrobby]

Great video folks. Nice to watch. And see. And learn.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Thanks so much!

[@jayh732]

You guys have the dopest sound drops

[@brianstevens7241]

Really cool weekend boat.

[@6re66]

So glad you guys passed on that POS. With patience and perseverance you'll find the right boat!

[@BruceGeffen]

Gregg H The boat is far from a POS. Just in need of a bit of TLC once again.

[@Josef_R]

Bruce Geffen Two hulls full of holes and patches everywhere for $60k? Totally a POS.

[@Frindleeguy]

Yeah, 2-3 days of laying glass?? Nah, throw it away. It's definitely a POS.

[@johnanderson1254]

Good job! It takes patience to find a good boat for the right price. I'm a live aboard too and I waited 5 months before I ever found the right boat for me. 👍

[@SailingSoulianis]

Thanks, John! What ended up being the right boat for you?

[@robertgoldbornatyout]

What a great video ! ! You people are fantastic and are a beautiful couple ! I love your videos, your living my dream, all the best From Robert UK London.

[@KawaTony1964]

That catamaran is way too small to live aboard. You shoulda just walked away at first sight. However, I'm super-excited by your idea of what sailing is all about, and I can't wait for your future videos.

[@SailingInconceivable]

Glad you passed. Yes, a fast boat. But, a lot of that is because she's bare bones. A deck, more comfy accommodations and amenities... a lot of weight. Am looking forward to future episodes. ~Hans

[@rhett4027]

Yes, yes yes yes monohull. There is so much more to a monohull!!

[@bobbybaldeagle702]

It might be a fast boat BUT there's no room for living on it from what I see... I personally would pick comfort over speed any day of the week... But I'm sure y'all knew that before you took at long trip to see it... I was so glad to hear that in the end y'all decided to keep on looking. I think that boat would have cost y'all a lot of money to make it livable and then it wouldn't have been as fast any more. I'm praying the God will lead y'all to the boat that's just right for y'all. You'll know the right boat the moment you step on it... Y'all's inter spirit will let you know. It's just that feeling in your gut that most folks get when they've made or about to make the right choice... Have fun hunting... Be blessed... BBE

[@SailingSoulianis]

It would've been pretty rough as is, no doubt. The designer of this cat does have plans you can use to add a deck house, and that's what we would've done -- BIG project, though. Thanks for the kind words!

[@john3Lee]

Well, I really enjoyed watching this... Have to say, I think you were right to walk away from that cat, as a live aboard..... Looking forward to seeing more - and thumbs up from me :)

[@Rico-Suave_]

I was very interested in seeing if a boat like this can be converted,, a lot if not most live aboard size boats are not trail able, i was very interested in seeing if a cat that can be broken down and trailed from home to a dock and then built back with usable deck can be done

[@rhett4027]

Man! two up on a paddle board!..You guys are good.

[@timohan100]

Depending how much Jameson I drank, I could live on that boat for about 32 hours. That is not a liveaboard boat no matter how you redefine the definition. I think you guys are nuts for looking at boats like that, but your videos are fun to watch. Good luck with the search.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Glad you're enjoying them! Yeah, it definitely wouldn't be a conversion project for the faint of heart. We saw it as a blank slate... but, decided for our first boat, it was too blank.

[@mumblic]

I have watched two videos and I'm still confused what you guys are looking for. Is racing your goal?

[@saturnracing6712]

Hi I'd suggest a boat as big and heavy and closest to turn key that you can find. that is if you intend to sail offshore. multi hulls are extra pricey. maybe a tired wood boat like a piver, Cross, or searunner ? British glass boats like Apachee, Comanche solaris, etc are harder to find and probably clapped out by now. old clunky monohulls like westsail are opposite of nice pair but you may come to really like the rugged seaworthiness. keywords strong heavy.

[@slowbikindude]

Enjoying your adventures. Other than sound, your videos are good, too. If you could normalize the sound a bit better...often, I had trouble hearing your comments when I had the music volume at a reasonable level Looking forward to the next one!

[@SailingSoulianis]

Hey Scott, thanks for the comments! Ahh yes, the sound... We were cringing the entire time trying to edit this video because the audio was so terrible, and nothing we did in post could save it (hence all the subtitles). Hang in there -- since shooting this footage, we've upgraded our equipment. Should only get better from here on out!

[@joecoolworld]

Wow I know that boat and have meet the owner .. thanks for posting always wondered what it was all about up close .. never saw it in person ... so thanks ... if you need any leads for sailing vids let me know .. enjoyed your work .. good job, live the dream ...

[@FullLifeCrew]

Watching you guys from the beginning video by video. New subscribers here.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Glad to have ya!

[@reckemroysrc3764]

she does have a nice pair. too bad you didn't travel up I -5. you would have seen many good potential project boats in the Everett dagmiars Marina. keep up the hunt. 😎

[@niceguy2171]

Hi, glad to come across you guys(and yes, by "guys" I mean both of you two ;) A new subscriber as well, as I like your nice easy going style. Am also in the Great Lakes region right now, and no, never remember coming across the 'Nice Pair" although I see a million cats, so could have. Hope to catch up and then follow you on your journey, and hopefully on the water too, although I would rather run into you two on the boat..from SV Easy Daze (yes I know there are many named that, previous name and I'm just to lazy at that to change it ;)

[@SailingSoulianis]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@babuddha]

Something to think about, please: 999 out of 1000 dogs could not be left alone, unchained in the back of a pickup; the dog would go barkin' mad at everyone tries to pass along the sidewalk or down the street. You find the one dog that's chill, peacefully-minding-nobodies-biz-but-his-own... and you go to tryin to mess with him. Dog deserved better. Thanks for considering it.

[@bendixon2898]

Don't forget to have a look in Australia USA to the Aud advantages and some good Schionning home builds around.

[@SailingSoulianis]

The Schionning's do look sweet. I'm a little wary of Home builds. I know it can be done successfully. In fact Wharram designs (almost all home build) are very high on our list as well.

[@johnjanetcourant7517]

The music is loud that it is difficult to hear when you speak.

[@joe4324]

yeah I can't do it

[@StreetTruckinTitan]

Well atleast it was a beautiful trip to go see her. I think youd be better off with a cat that Billy & Sierra bought on Tulas Endless Summer. Plenty of room plus its also fast. 42ft Crowther Spindrift.

[@Ultrawong100]

Do you follow Gone with the Wynns? They have an awsome boat and also i follow sailing vabagabond. As much as you loved that boat i think in the long run on extended trips you would have regretted it maybe. Hope your dreams come true. I will be watching with baited breath to see what you get in the end.

[@1_fishin_magician153]

lol..... on the dog in the back of the truck...prolly watching its owner...good luck ** waves from Lake George, NY....

[@MichaelSTaylor]

Yeah it seems maybe a little too on-the-nose but it still would have been great if you got that boat along with a couple of spirited cats that loved to sail. Then whenever you're in a crowded harbor and someone suggestively shouts out "nice pair!" as they are looking at your girl, you grab the cats with a smile and hold them up and yell back, "thanks!" Almost as much fun would have been if you would have completely lined the Interiors with thin, tough wall- climbable carpet. Add a laser pointer and/or crazy angled sailing conditions and you end up with some genuinely memorable cats on a cat videos. 😁

[@funtosail]

Nice vid. Yep the cat needs work as you found out. I owned a Reynolds 33 high performance cat and love love loved it. Super fast, strong, and durable. I did finally sold it and moved into a small trailer-able monohull with cabin, Hunter 212. The cat had cabins but the 212 still had more liveable room. Love it but the speed is not there, still enjoyable. However I sail Hobie Cats and the UFO (can see on my website at funtosail.com) to get all my speed fix. The UFO is insanely awesome. I run a sailing school and sailboat dealership in Hayden Idaho among the large lakes (we have a navy base on one of the lakes).

[@oceantri]

Check out classic trimaran like a Cross or Brown in the 36-42' size.

[@panther105]

Reminds me a little of an older version of a Sig 45 (le Breton Yachts)

[@SailingSoulianis]

Yes, we love the Sig 45! Never been on one... but we love the concepts behind it. Had we purchased this boat, we were looking at a few improvements along those lines.

[@kidauStrike]

Nice my frend good job.

[@alexanderessle2980]

It really depends on where you would be sailing, but I wouldn't vouch for comfort, especially on passages that are longer than a day or two. Night watches on an open deck with wind and water blowing relentlessly in your face and nowhere to shelter... As someone who grew up sailing racing boats and had the chance to live on a boat for 2 years I would say that comfort over speed is the key for good times! In my opinion there is no point in going fast if you are not going to enjoy it too. Hope this comment helps you guys! Good luck and fair winds

[@sailingserenity469]

Hi, don't know if you realise but the music is prob. 50% louder than your voices....so overtime when the music comes in we get the remote and turn it down, then when you start talking it's back up with the remote..!! you know you can adjust volume (speech) up in the editing programs..!! nice boat though..!

[@SailingSoulianis]

Hey there! Thanks for the comment. Yes, the audio is pretty rough from this footage, and we did the best we could in Audition to improve it, unfortunately that still wasn't great, and that's why we added subtitles. Our audio should only be improving from here on out!

[@sailingserenity469]

Get a mac, great for video, if you see one of my video's I was right next to a sandblaster, now that's noise...but I edited the sound down to 10% and my voice up to about 65% to get the right mix...

[@sailingserenity469]

ps: check out a cheap ENDURANCE 35 a great sailing boat and I believe there a great price in the usa/canada

[@wkw4095]

No freaking way! keep looking and yes...look at mono hull sailboats. A lot more affordable and 1000's of options and....warm feet :)

[@erichaskell]

The only solace in watching you look at poor choices is eventually you bought the right boat. Thank god.

[@venomguysydney]

lucky you passed on the cat, totally wrong kind to cruise on and work full time from, suggest an older Lagoon or FP is far better suited

[@SailingSoulianis]

Ya the older TPI Lagoons, 38 or 42, are fricken sweet -- way ahead of their time.

[@venomguysydney]

you dont need dagger boards to sail upwind on a cat. The hull shape have more impact than dagger vs Keel

[@chrisperrin6585]

Yikes, not much in the way of basic creature comforts. I say buy a mono or cat that you don't have to do a tremendous amount of work on just to get out of the yard and away from the dock. I've sailed and power boated for years part time. Not sure that I could realistically live on something full time any smaller than 40'. Think my favorite was my buddy's 60' Hat Sport-fisherman with enclosed flybridge and all the creature comforts. Hah

[@aldenjohng]

Keep on keeping on. Too bad Imi loa had logistical problems. Looked fixable to me. But then I have a lot of experience with CSK cats. Keep plugging away. Good luck

[@ft6972]

Hahahaha oh man bet this was a wild ride lol....

[@mmanut]

RUN, don’t look back. Trouble written all over it. Vinny 🇺🇸

[@Satorisails77]

Strange you would fly all the way to Orcas and drive to Mexico when there are more boats between San Diego Bay and Marina del Rey than anywhere else in the north Pacific. Looks like you're on a budget, so make life easy for yourselves and invest in a nice monohull.

[@SailingSoulianis]

We're smitten with catamarans (Lauren gets seasick easily -- just one reason we like multihulls) and you're right, we are most definitely on a budget, so we were willing to take a chance on these cats even though both were a trek. However, gas wasn't terribly expensive and we managed to get fairly cheap airline tickets; and like we mentioned in the videos, we love to travel and hadn't been to either mainland Mexico or the PNW, so we figured, why not go.

[@twiper]

If you want a cat buy one there is over 40 foot to be sure it's safe for ocean cruising. One too cheap is not a good idea in the long run.

[@bill4nier]

So are guys still looking for a boat? If so what are you looking for? Thanks, nice video.

[@SailingSoulianis]

We're working on our next episode where we talk about this a bit. This was the last cat we looked at. We've been searching for boats since February and decided we just need to get out on the water, so we're looking at monos and will buy the next boat that looks close to being ready to go.

[@bill4nier]

Hmmm, maybe a dumb question, but is your limiting factor the price of the boat? After watching your video I jumped onto a few site I knew and did some searching. I also assume you want a boat already on the west coast vs having a boat sailed/transported to the west coast. However there's still a fair selēction on the west coast.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Yes, unfortunately we didn't get involved in any major tech startups, didn't buy bitcoin in 2011, nor do we have a trust fund. We're just working hard to see our dreams come true as quickly as we can. We're going to be working while we travel, as we want this lifestyle to be sustainable. So we had a pretty strict boat budget of $35-45k, and needed to leave a little left over for upgrades. We've actually left California for the Midwest to be closer to where we'd like to start our sail. Keep an eye out for our next episode -- we head to the Midwest and look at some classic monos.

[@bill4nier]

Did a little research, here's the website: www.sailboatlistings.com found a few Cats (30'-37') that might be of interest and a ton of monohulls 2 in particular 40' Morgan & 45' Starrett. All the best!

[@SailingTaranto]

Good choice to discard that vessel IMHO. Racing boats tend to have the hardest lives and the biggest streeses put upon them over their lifetime, so an older lighter heavily raced vessel could well have many issues waiting to surprise you both. And no sink?! :-) Cheers and good luck with the search.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Lol, there was previously a sink, the owner had just pulled it out for the R2AK. Simple systems are best in my book. A 5 Gallon jerry can with a foot pump and a sink that drains straight out the side doesn't have a whole lot that can go wrong with it.

[@SailingTaranto]

Totally agree :-)

[@AnthonyPaun]

great video

[@normanhosford2506]

Since you two come from inland scow country, I'd expect you to also consider a fast monohull. You have been vague about your budget but maybe an older boat type with a history of offshore racing like a J120, Olson 40, or Santa Cruz 40 could meet your need for speed and budget. A boat that can recover from a knockdown is far safer than one that can't. Any of those offshore racers will have sister ships with IRC certificates and stability numbers for them. You would like to feel that if you go over 120 degrees or so the boat would come back up again. My feeling is that you should never be just two mistakes from disaster especially when one of them might be believing a weather prediction.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Most of our sailing experience has been multi-hull oriented. That said this is the last cat we looked at... The market is just to slim right now and the only options in our price range are gemini's and catalacs, which I wouldn't consider a true option. So we've decided in an effort to get on the water as fast as possible, we're turning to monos. We're not really looking for a blue-water tank for our first boat. We see this more as a progression. Our first boat just needs to be something that can take us safely through the Caribbean - we'll likely upgrade before crossing the pacific. So while we obviously want something safe, we're going to be spending the next two years doing short passages and will always be less than a couple days away from a safe harbor.

[@normanhosford2506]

I'm glad to read you are in fact considering a mono. A boat that cannot be righted after its mast hits the water is a scary prospect in the middle of the ocean. Years ago I used to race a Hobie 18 but it was easily righted. I hope to enjoy your adventures.

[@SailingSoulianis]

We sailed a Hobie 16 to Catalina and back for a weekend camping trip. Great boats! This was just a giant Hobie! :)

[@fyneyoungstunna]

Ill play devils advocate! As a full time pickup-truck camper, seems that boat had plenty of space. The repairs,?, yeah not optimal but “do-able”. If it was in a lil better condition i would have done it in a heartbeat.

[@pj7484]

Hate to be critical but watching your last video we could barely hear when you both spoke so we had to turn the volume way up which was ok but then you had your music come on and it became SUPER loud, not sure if it was just us but we have run across several youtubers with the same issue.

[@SpearTheSeas]

Dragonfly 1000 is a nice fast comfortable boat, seems out of your price range based on the price of this boat though. good luck Y'all :)

[@dejayrezme8617]

Skip to 7:22 if you want to see the actual catamaran

[@Chris-zo5ze]

You guys have a much more adventurous spirit than me! "Nice pair" looks like it would be fun to sail, but a LIVEABOARD!? Yikes! I can't even imagine having to sail that boat in less than ideal conditions. That's not even taking all the work it needed into consideration. Take your time. Don't settle. You'll end up with the right boat for you.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Haha, thanks! No doubt it would have been a huge project, and building a (kit) boat is still a someday dream of ours... But right now our desire to just get out on the water won over.

[@BruceGeffen]

We sailed her many many miles in less than "ideal conditions," and she took very good care of us who were racing her.

[@Chris-zo5ze]

Bruce Geffen I have no doubt that it's a capable sailboat. I was specifically looking at it from a liveaboard perspective... Doing a big crossing on this boat in my opinion, would be a nightmare. To each their own though. I'm sure people live on and make major crossings on boats less comfortable than this. How fast did you get her when you were racing?

[@BruceGeffen]

No worries, Chris. I was clarifying for all and giving the perspective from owning her for almost 12 years. The fastest we had her was something like 28 or 29 kts., but some on board during one race said they saw 30+.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Wooowee!

[@rhett4027]

run! run run run

[@vaidotasratkus7619]

Jackpot!

[@ryankc3631]

Good gosh, it would be more comfortable living under a bridge!

[@__-pl3jg]

9:09 - Jackpot!

[@Utahfab]

Don't know what you've set for a budget. Possibly consider a Trimaran. That boat would have to have been kept extremely light to keep the performance. As long as your going light, check out an F-boat or Corsair. Something like a Corsair F-31 Ultimate cruiser - Example: www.sailboatlistings.com/view/67554 or a Corsair 37 - Example: www.sailboatlistings.com/view/69858 Good luck with your quest!

[@terencesmith4137]

Think you made the right decision

[@cartmanrlsusall]

get a wharram tiki 38 its minimal with just enogh room to be comfortable and fast for its size

[@SailingSoulianis]

We actually made an offer on "Peace" a few years ago! Wharrams 38 & 46 were on on our short list.

[@cartmanrlsusall]

that's cool have you thought about building your own ?I went to a boat show this summer and the cross lake yacht club had a tiki21 pre cut kit for visitors to assemble and it was optimized for fast building by first timers,and the guys at the sail yes channel are selling their norm cross trimaran for 48 k or best offer.put in another 30 k and you will have a proven world cruiser,anyway its a exciting but stressful,hunt I'm glad you are taking us along for the journey

[@SailingSoulianis]

We have, but we really just wanted to get on the water. We'd love to build our own one day!

[@rhett4027]

Oh, xxxt, any boat up Seattle has been rife with mold. ????????????Clean up and re-up will seldom get rid of it. (heated cabin in cold weather condensation everywhere you can and can't reach)

[@erl1544]

Hell no. Glad you went with something else. This is that last boat you would want to live on. 😀

[@stuartsmith5146]

Awesome racer! NOT your boat. So glad you have what you have now. 👍🏼

[@vproven]

Very smart move.

[@Flyingsailordiver]

Check out an Edel 35 catamaran fast boats , minimalist with decent comfort. Best Value for money on the market.

[@wallywombat164]

For sale. Americans only may apply. London Bridge, Eifel Tower. Highes bidder only.

[@tna2me197]

yeah ... you made the right decision on that one.

[@steveducell2158]

well.............it did have a "seal" of approval ( forgive me )

[@SailingSoulianis]

😂

[@blurtmenow]

Set me straight. Aren't dagger boards supposed to come from outside in and not inside out please excuse my ignorance don't know a lot about cats.

[@SailingSoulianis]

Yes, absolutely... That was one of the peculiarities of this boat we had reservations about. Maybe Mike Bell can chime in on this, he's the builder of Nice Pair.

[@istra70]

Quite few famous catamaran designers place the dagger boards this way. The theory behind is that these will dig in if you are on the slope of the wave ( especially while flying windward hull). Also some use mast for lifting them. In marina - they don't stick out . If the boards angle is from outside in - you would have a skid or a drift downwind - down wave ..(especially when flying windward float). But this is all theory ...... There is a lot of designers who prefer opposite (and me personally too) - I think it is safer. Better to have skid downwind ( downwave sideways) then flip it over in a gust. World best hydrodynamic analysis have Groupe Finot and they have dagger boards from outside in . I found your ideal catamaran ..........kzbin.info/www/bejne/gZ_TqZaop7ymjsk .... just start saving ...and get few sponsors. Good luck....

[@SailingSoulianis]

istra70 we love the sig45. It is a huge inspiration for a lot of discussions we've had about what we wanted in a boat. We'd love to sail one of them one day.

[@thenarrator1984]

i considered that boat as well!

[@stephenbarton9825]

There’s holes everywhere. Yes mate, that’s why they call them cats multiholes.

[@SailingSoulianis]

LOL

[@Scofari]

Lauren is so dang cute

[@larrykramer6057]

Not a liveaboard. At most a lunchaboard and emergency overnight. Are you going to live or play? Both of course, but this is only for play.

[@contentforcoaches]

Go Green! ;)

[@sailingdijan9128]

Awesome video! Have Fun! SV DIJAN Ericson 35

[@1982mako224]

Run away!!!!!

[@jhlewis10]

Good luck! Fast transitions and shaky footage kinda made me dizzy. Audio was a little low also.

[@Rodbod16]

That cat was a racer. I thought it was totally unsuitable for your needs as soon as I saw it. Well done for passing it up. ROD UK

[@JustAskingAndCurios]

Noooooo....unless you just want to race.

[@josephlavigne1495]

Not pine trees...fir and cedar...mostly

[@MrDavcan]

Had to fast forward though the music

[@norml.hugh-mann]

With moorage costs on a cat nobody can call them "minimalist"

[@billybeerman2657]

-"Super-spartan treehouse"-LOL...The "Nice Pair" not so nice, eh?... I would walk away from this one too.

[@BigRedNZ1]

20/20 hindsight. Very cool, and wet race boat. No way this is a cruiser...

[@Jooligan1]

What a huge boat with NO interior space - FORGET IT !!

[@kadven6447]

Your wife needs more comforts than Nice Pair could ever offer. Good move to pass on it.