Racing Our 100+ MPH Land Speed Mini Bike at Bonneville Doesn’t Go as Planned… (Pt. 1)

[@motorcycleman3322]

I'd say that split sprocket is wobbling at the spits and catching the chain in it and breaking it.should try a solid one and see if that works.😊.

[@mr.anonymous3978]

That's where I would start

[@quittessa1409]

My thought would be the split sprocket expanding away under the centrifugal load, putting a bigger gap at the joints and stretching the links under load.

[@MountainEagle77]

Thanks for the insight, guys. After reading your comments, I think you're spot on about the split sprocket being the issue. It sounds like the wobbling or slight misalignment at the splits could be causing the chain to catch and eventually break, especially at high speeds like 100 mph. The idea about the centrifugal load expanding the gaps makes sense too-those forces might be enough to stretch the chain or create more slack, leading to failure.

[@user-neo71665]

This and need to step up chain size. They are using chain rated for 5 maybe 10 HP on a 40+ HP engine. Frankly I'm surprised a chain that small passed inspection.

[@ajaxracing]

Right maybe run a 520 chain I have a dirt bike with about that hp ripping wheelies and doing 80-90 on the highway just hit 5k miles with that chain and it still looks good I'd say keep it simple use what every motorcycle on the road is using solid sprockets and a 520 chain(Id use a oring chain RK or DID don't use cheap chains) that should handle it no problem

[@cb_triumph]

I was watching from the start area waiting to run and saw that chain break, Ike did an awesome job keeping it upright. It looked way sketchier in person than the video conveys. Also, thanks for checking out my CB500 just before my run. Can't believe I made it back for another run and you guys were still there. Great job bringing some of the Bonneville experience to all your viewers.

[@IndianaDipper194]

love your bike! 👍

[@cb_triumph]

@@IndianaDipper194 Thanks!

[@jaredpratt9733]

That CB500 sounds so good

[@cb_triumph]

@@jaredpratt9733 Thank you.

[@dmwi1549]

That bike sounds wicked. Reminds me of similar bikes cruising the Milwaukee Lake Front back in the 80’s. But those wannabe racers had stretch swing arms.

[@sandmanbub]

It's nice to see John's father joining in. You two are lucky to still be able to enjoy time with each other.

[@johninzerillo1510]

It was great to be there together! Thanks all!!

[@kingnull2697]

@@johninzerillo1510 Good to see you hanging out with your son, especially at such a cool event

[@AsswipeGarage]

It's not like John is 55 years old!

[@sandmanbub]

​@@AsswipeGarage I know Johns about a year younger than my son, who turned 30 Aug. 16'th, but wonder why you picked 55?

[@AsswipeGarage]

@@sandmanbub I was 55 when my Dad died.

[@SadPuppySoup]

From the parents garage to Bonneville Salt Flats not too shabby. You'll get the kinks worked out (a chain pun). Happy B-Day Ike.

[@KeepGrindingGarage]

Even though the bike keeps throwing it's demons at Ike he doesn't want to give up and that my friends is the heart of a true warrior. Hang in there buddy you got this.

[@ThirstyFoe00]

Of all the years watching this channel and I've watched basically EVERY video I've never seen ike mad like he was in the intro

[@WyFoster]

Imagine working on something for 2 years. Driving across country with no AC for 30+ hours with a bike strapped to the roof for the chain to explode from all the Johnnie Berry horsepower.

[@ThirstyFoe00]

​@@WyFoster I can see the frustration but after 2 years don't you think you would've taken things like an extra chain with you. In the video you hear ike say it happened before so they knew it could've been an issue. I would've brought a few spares if I knew the chain/sprocket was a failing point

[@WyFoster]

@@ThirstyFoe00 Had like 50 feet of chain easily.

[@jhankins1126]

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[@ThirstyFoe00]

😂 ​@@jhankins1126 very nice

[@paulcooper9135]

Bonneville is all or nothing.. highest of highs, lowest of lows. Personal experience ... split rear sprockets can't take that kind of power. Waiting for Part 2 .. hoping for the best foe you all. Thanks for sharing 🇨🇦

[@DannyNeal-g8y]

Happy birthday, Ike! Two major failures you can walk away from is a pretty good birthday present! I know you're discouraged, but if it was easy, everyone would have a world record! Besides, you don't want a gimme; it'll taste a lot sweeter when you have to work for it. Good luck, guys, and keep swinging!

[@CarsandCameras]

As they say… that’s Bonneville!

[@rocknraptor3195]

Dang it!

[@justinarseneau4450]

I guess 😅

[@John-y6h3r]

if you guys dont know it there is a movie called "Worlds Fastest Indian" you guys should watch

[@KeepGrindingGarage]

@CarsandCameras Hang in there man you got this

[@clintonwoody420]

can you run a 520 chain and sprocket

[@bigunone]

I have lost count of the number of times I have made one pass at the track, and ended up on the trailer because something failed. You are still in there swinging, hopefully you better your goal!

[@danw1955]

#35 chain is your biggest problem. The power pulses of a 50+ hp. motor is enough to rip that chain apart as soon as the clutch locks in (and from the looks of it, that's exactly what's happening). Go to 420 or even 520 motorcycle chain and sprockets, and you'll eliminate your weak link, and most likely, make a spectacular run! Good luck you guys.😉👍👍

[@scubba3133]

Facts big power big speeds means heavy duty parts

[@WyFoster]

The irony of Ike wearing the "I break stuff" shirt lol

[@ziptiejedi5658]

I think it was a combo between the power of the engine, weight, and the split sprocket. I love that you guys didnt give up. Cant wait for the next video.

[@frankno2plus1]

A friend of mine who's now long past, once said that if your running a rear sprocket that's an even number of teeth on a single cyl' bike you should NOT run an even drive sprocket as it sets up strange harmonics that chew things up, He proved it on an other friends KLR 650 which had a problem with chewing up sprockets, as soon as we changed the front cog to an odd number of teeth the carnage all went away, to say that we were surprised was an under statement....

[@MaNNeRz91]

The fact 2strokestuffing was there as well is awesome. One of my favourite channels besides this one

[@goosenotmaverick1156]

I knew I wasn't the only one here! That man has taught me so much about something that was always a little bit magic to me.

[@DavidHall-d8q]

If it was easy...everyone would be doin' it . Chins up be proud of the machine you made ( it's one of a kind ) and look at the mega buck machines that have had the same luck . Keep at it boys ! PK

[@williamstamper442]

Absolutely love this vid and its a whole new level for the channel! I wanna get technical right now...the bully clutch is a decent product but i worry about the Chineseum unfortunately built into the product. That primary sprocket should have never let go. Its not like you're rig is heavy and overpowered. Your team did seem to do your research and you were pretty darn well prepared from what i can tell. What i cant tell you is how proud i am of you fellers pulling this off! Y'all did so well under the circumstances and i couldn't be more happy for the whole gang but especially John and Ike. I mean hey, i got like 7, possibly 8 years of my life invested in watching your vids from the beginning. Thank you for taking us along on this trip...i mean Bonneville but also mean your channel as a whole!

[@dmwi1549]

As someone who has never been there, watching you guys get turned back last year and already get two runs in this year already feels like a win.

[@jdspeed99z]

Stick a camera in the frame pointed at the chain and sprockets, one by the engine and one in the rear by the rear tire. I agree with the comments below on the split sprockets, definitely steel split if they make them and solid steel for sure. From there a bigger chain. The cameras will tell you if it's a chain control issue or a sprocket issue. I can't wait to see the next episode. I looks like a totally amazing experience. Thanks for sharing!

[@wesleypulkka7447]

C+Cs, my near stock XJ 650 Yamaha made 54 HP and used a heavy duty motorcycle chain that 135 is go kart chain not suited for 50 HP! Go bigger on the drive chain + sprockets and you will eliminate most of your issues! Your Bonneville beast with that extra-long chain is not a go kart!

[@desertdenizen6428]

I'm really impressed with your determination and creativity. Bonneville is a strange world. I ran there once in my 1968 Charger and the salt was not in very good condition. It had a very thin crust and crumbly underneath. It was very difficult to apply full power and the wheelspin was always a problem. At 140 MPH it was still slipping and scared the crap out of me. I could not ever get all the power down and kinda bailed. Waltzing around at high speed like a hog on ice convinced me to stop while I still had a car to drive home. I wish you all the best and hope you get home safely. I look forward to more of your creative adventures.

[@AsswipeGarage]

How did ya get ALL the salt out of the car, so it didnt rot away later? I always wonder that. 🤔

[@desertdenizen6428]

@@AsswipeGarage My car was made before the gas mileage restrictions were in place, so it was still open underneath, not having a belly pan or other restrictions. So, I was able to get to pretty much everywhere with a garden hose and spray nozzle. I also sold it a few months later to buy an airplane that was slower. Living in California helped!

[@wesleypulkka7447]

C+Cs, I was with my brother and his business partner at Bonneville in 1972. They set a 125cc record running the 3rd engine, one didn't run the other ate the cylinder. Because of a paperwork glitch on the part of the Speed Week officials their record wasn't official. They were invited back to do a makeover run for no entry fee but couldn't afford to close their Cycle Shop for another week! Bonneville can be a punishing place! Better luck next year!

[@burridge911]

Great video guys. Some of your best yet! Happy birthday Ike ! 🎉

[@edbennett8257]

Speaking from similar experiences at Bonneville, I'd say your issue is the length of the chain run. We were shucking chains, among other problems, on a couple of bikes with similar long runs. The solution for us was nylon sliders above and below both the upper and lower chain runs to keep it from slapping up and down at speed. Once we did that, the chain issues went away.

[@Buck1954]

At least you are experiencing Bonneville and learning what not works. Everybody goes through that process it seems.

[@mikenchico]

Loved seeing Dad again!

[@brytonkenney1507]

You guys are awesome thanks for filming all this

[@jasonwoolard1886]

You guys are living a truly aspiring life!! Total positive enjoyment and seeking the never ending quest of finding it all in never ending spot !! Black hole happiness!! Killer stuff

[@AsswipeGarage]

"inspiring".

[@johnfitzpatrick2469]

G,day from Sydney Australia. Love the big wide brim hats. I raise a cup of coffee and tea to the legacy of New Zealand's late Mr Bert Munroe. So "dang' sorry about the sprocket and chain fail. 🌏🇦🇺

[@jeffkulessa9398]

Hey guys, you are still making some of the best videos out there! Your chain issue is normal for failure its length. The chain tries to be round, centrifugal force becomes incredible. The chain gets pulled apart. That is why drive shafts are used in high speed equipment, and long timing chains have those long channeled guides. I hope this helps, I am certain that this is the problem.

[@trevorfoy6307]

You are certainly incorrect because there are plenty of motorcycles that are running 300+ horsepower with a chain. It’s all about the size and design of the sprocket. It would be fine.

[@jeffkulessa9398]

@@trevorfoy6307 Motorcycles have larger chains and less length between sprockets. Fastest bikes use belts or driveshafts.

[@chrislang7460]

So nice to see great coverage in a broader sense of the event. Too many videos are just narrowed down to individual efforts. I think you found a great balance between covering your own effort and others to really give a feel of the atmosphere at the event. Well played.

[@gordongrimes2797]

Hats off to you all anytime you go out for the first time and come that close to a hundred mph thats a win it's compititon between man and machine anyway you look at it things brake the engine rocks you just need to couple it with stronger componets. keep on rocking.

[@martinlicht1969]

It'll be Fine!.. love the not giving up spirit always!

[@jamesmelton4412]

Great stuff!! You guys are the reason I started buying my kids old mini bikes and go karts several years ago!

[@GH-ci8tc]

A larger single piece rear sprocket will help a lot with the the torque transfer to the rear wheel. Good luck!!! I'm rooting for you

[@thewraith1977]

Dont forget...you arent just breaking stuff....you are breaking stuff AT BONNEVILLE!! That is a major accomplishment in itself. Keep pushing, ill keep watching.

[@joshuabuilds3051]

Man Ike can ride! I saw him catch that initial fishtail and i dont know how many men could. Glad he kept rubber side down.

[@jonathancrissinger2301]

You may not have reached your goal, but what you have done is very respectful and impressive. This is your first attempt, there are always glitches that come with it. Obviously no one saw this coming or they would have made a comment on it during construction of this project. I know I didn't see this coming. I've seen what I consider some good suggestions on the cure for the problem. Solid sprocket on the rear as well as a heavier chain are what I would say. Just by listening to Ike, I'm convinced you can achieve and possibly exceed your goals. Good luck. I will be waiting to hear how you do. Great video regardless. I will be praying for you guys. See you later.

[@pisomojado9192]

You guys are awesome! I just recently found your channel and have watched everything I can get my hands on. To build a land speed bike from the ground up and make it this far is a great accomplishment.

[@gwc_garage]

What a save!!!!!! So glad you made it out of that wheels on the ground.

[@boblazarrss]

Your dad looked so happy to be with you. Working hard to

[@johninzerillo1510]

It''s a blessing to spend time with my son, just as it is with son Joel. The rest of the team are the best. Good people all.

[@stuartclarke3482]

HAPPY BIRTHDAY IKE 🎉

[@shaundonahue4621]

The trial and error is the very essence of racing, just like the 670 dragster, and it makes really good content. Believe me when I say that we all are sharing the frustration and the triumphs right there with the rest of the team. You just didn't have room for all of us in the station wagon.

[@StingyOLanigan]

Before I see the final vid on this adventure, I would like to give you two major props. I've been a subscriber for a long time. Look what y'all done did. Wow 👍👍👏👏🙌 Also, happy belated birthday to you, Isaac.

[@200shotramhemi4]

Great Teamwork! Guys are funny

[@jeeper426]

sacrifices to the gods of speed at Bonneville, shes a ripper boys

[@kevinsellsit5584]

😂Everyone seems so nice and willing to help, but that bird at the very end was actually a spy sent over from the teams that know when you get a chain to stay on this beast you will be the vehicle to beat. Smile Ike, and happy birthday. You got this! With a lack of knowledge on what all the factors are that are involved with the chain issue, I think frame rigidity may be a factor. Check the chain tension with someone bouncing on the seat to see if the frame is flexing. (I know you are already home but just throwing out ideas. Also it might work fine for John, so I'm looking forward to the next episode. Stay safe and THANK YOU for everything you do. P.S. We know exactly what Dad said when you bleeped him out! 🎉

[@PhilipCockram]

Our Boys ...Hitting the Big Time 👍🏼

[@williamstamper442]

Y'all went to Bonneville and did runs. You win. Im 55 and always wanted to do something y'all did and it never happened. Next time can you guys swing up to Detroit and pick me up? I been to Bonneville when i was single digits old. Dad and i used to travel in the old Chevrolet van and i got the poloroid pics to prove i was there, lol. But its not the same to just spectate..

[@themillers4041]

You guys are my inspiration to build my minibikes and gokarts and I would like to thank you guys for the amazing content you out

[@terrysee2021]

Glad you got the salt gremlins behind you and things got better. By the way, I'm the orange ranger that got ya back to the pit, we didn't do near as well as we'd liked but every time you go it's a learning experience, see ya next year

[@RadSalacan]

Glad everyone stayed safe. Have fun, keep those wheels on the grounds fellas.

[@urdooinitrong7753]

its called finding the weakest link for a reason... Dont get frustrated just get better...great job guys!!

[@claymcintyre7515]

Chain harmonics. All chains have a wave while running. Think bull whip! When the harmonic has to abruptly stop to go around the sprocket that’s the end of the bull whip. POW massive force. Cmon guys my name is on that bike lol.

[@ilkoderez601]

Mini bikes at the salt flats, you guys are serious dorks LOL

[@IWatchedWhat]

You guys keep going no matter what the salt throws at you. Thank you for sharing this with us.

[@saulcustomz2480]

Having your pop would be amazing the additional knowledge and wisdom that could added to the content on the channel would be epicccc

[@Grazianosgarage]

Love you taking your dad with you John

[@johninzerillo1510]

Good to be out there though the conditions are harsh. Very proud of John and the team!

[@BevRich-y8u]

Thus the joy of custom build and racing... a very smart person once said don't give up you can do it, lol..

[@smaggies]

Happy Birthday to Ike, Keep it rolling, It'll Be Fine. Darn I should driven over to watch, maybe next time. Been with friends racing dirt oval track and yes we broke down and started over, with a Win.

[@ronwhy4893]

You're walking that chain with all the torque on that split Sprocket

[@rudysrc6652]

Keep your chins up Boys! Y’all are there for the first time. Sensation overload. Guess what? This is what you guys do best!! Get parts and fix these things! You’re in your element now!! Do your thing like you do, get out there and run that thing and give it hell!! GodSpeed… God Bless you all fellas!! You’re gonna do it!! We’re all pulling for you man!!🤘🏽💪🏽💪🏽

[@jimwhite7607]

Best thing I have to say get a book and write everything in the book ,from parts you didn’t bring to how many passes to the time you started you run ,to setting on the carb and the time of day you made your pass

[@kevinching1975]

Hang in there guys when you think about all the trouble Burt Muntoe had this is just a minor set back love the content and look forward to another video

[@hotrodmyk]

Bonneville is a fickle place for sure. You guys are doing great! That's racing, you'll get it de-bugged, I'm sure. What a problem...TOO MUCH power. There's some that would kill for that problem. Hang in, have fun. I see Ike's still breaking stuff 😁

[@justinwaters-w8e]

After burning clutches up on my rig, i read on a Facebook post about Lucas power steering stop leak. My systems 2 years old now, and it’s still mint service it quarterly

[@papatomsthoughts]

John, your dad is awesome. Great spending time together. 😊😊😊😊😊

[@robmanueb.]

Great stuff and awesome challenge. Easy isn't worth squat.

[@KarlDavies-dn3eg]

Toss the split sprocket and go solid or tack weld the two halves together, and some beefier chain. Never seen you guys so beat, but don't give up. Seen plenty of constructive feedback here take note and reassemble to come back stronger.

[@spyder7758]

wooohoooo! superman that rig!

[@lightcapmath2777]

Disappointment leads to innovations. Ones loss is another's gain in knowledge. You both did a tremendous service to all, young and old, demonstrating the tenacity to make it right. Peace and love to all...CC and Go Power Sports. Inspirations makes for better and stronger bonds. DVD:)

[@robtroborty9729]

I say cheer up guys, just be thankful to where you are at this moment, tomorrow is another day, it will all work out 😊❤

[@Mike-u5o5k]

All I need to say is hats off to you guys your so brave

[@Yosser70]

you do know you guys are screwed now! lol Nothing is going to keep you from going back Bonneville every year! Great video, and keep going guys 👍🏻

[@Skiridr22]

Dad is a keeper hope to see more of him on the channel lending his knowledge

[@cskalle1213]

isaac experienced a sudden suprise rearwheel lockup at 60 and just chilling & countersteering while laying down. what a chad

[@DiggingWithKayJay]

Solid sprocket and a 420 chain for the HP and you'll be golden ✨️.

[@shaunmerica]

So far you are safe, and you are learning. Keep racing boys!

[@williamlee1429]

Harley has been running Kevlar belts for over 50 years without any breaking. My 2003 Super glide had over 60,000 miles on it over 10 years, and it produced 80 ft pounds of torque. I never changed a belt.

[@JohnHill-jm7tm]

This Old Man from Washington NC enjoying with my coffee late night ☕☕. So glad to see Doc helping and what a way to start retirement 👍. Really going to miss my appointment every October with him😭. John we spend most of the time during the appt talking about you and Ike🤣. Looking forward to Wednesday and the second part 😍. Love You Guys. 🛵🧔💝💝

[@johninzerillo1510]

News flash, John. Lord willing I'll see you in Oct. My retirement will consist of working Tues, Wed, and Thursday. Too many years of my life invested to just drop it all. As you know I love the people contact and the work.

[@JohnHill-jm7tm]

@@johninzerillo1510 Doc just checked and it's Monday, December 16. I'll be calling getting it changed 👍. I know you are really enjoying hanging out and helping John and Ike❤️. I'm always checking to see if Ike is at his shop. Love stopping by and talking to him. Going to be another HEART added to my signoff for you. Love You Guys. 🛵🧔💝💝💝

[@johninzerillo1510]

@@JohnHill-jm7tm so kind of you to add a heart for me!!

[@ronnyfurst5511]

Guys.... keep your head up:-) Burt Munro would be proud of you... thanks for the oppinion to be with you at bonneville via youtube;-)

[@racebanning6390]

🏁🏁🏁😂🤣🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🤣Ya All Rock!!!! Im a Bonneville longtimer. Seen and understand it All. Wished i would have made it this Summer. Happy Birthday Ike, fully initiated👍👍🔧🛠️🔧🛠️Dehydrated, aching, burnt, the sun reflection ,the wind, storms, LOL. Thats the Bonneville way. So glad to see Pops made it, this experience will last a Lifetime. My Pops went with me in 2011 , it was Epic, he passed in 2021, but my pics amd memories still make me smile. Proud of you all, a Valiant effort, cling to the experience...... So Few Racers and Enthusiasts ever experience what you all have. Hallowed Ground the Salt. Yoo may try a Gates Belt drive... they are vicious. Be blessed ya all🙏🙏🙏🏁🏁🏁🇺🇸🇺🇸

[@Bartskarts]

Hell yeah boys!!!!! Goin fast!

[@hardhead5700]

First time I've seen why this place is popular with some. All the other like minded racers,drivers, designers all in one place at the same time. It looks like a fun experience even for us that don't do it but like it. IKE GOT TO TEST A MINI BIKE THAT HIM AND HIS FRIENDS BUILT AND DROVE ON THE SALT FLATS!! That's got to be awesome

[@NathanSly-x3j]

Your motor builder needs that . To show the proof of his mighty little machine's 🎉🎉🎉🎉.

[@larsnielsen3336]

Hi guys. It's not the 'power' of the engine that is killing your chain. It's the chain-'slapping'. Surprisingly strong forces in that. ( I know a bit about this stuff. I hold two motorcycle records at Bonneville )

[@DetroitMicroSound]

I think I said a long time ago, you guys need a real high hp motorcycle chain, and sprockets. The important thing is, you guys are having a go at it, and taking it seriously. And you are doing it with your dad. You'll learn a lot, no matter what. Bonneville will change ya. You'll be able to use the lessons you learn at Bonneville, throughout your life, both in how you think about building machines, and living your lives. Bonneville is a richly spiritual place. Many of the fastest machines to ever travel the surface of the Earth, did it right under your own bike's very wheels..

[@Wayne3544]

Any day of racing that you can go home from is a good day.

[@rodneyjohnson4881]

Happy birthday buddy without you this channel would not exist thank you cars and cameras for all of your amazing videos keep it up you guys 💯

[@drgti16v]

looks like so much fun boys. I have a great story of traveling through Utah in a U-Haul

[@joshroberts1777]

my birthday is this saturday .u guys went fast with the bike

[@friendlyfire01]

This is one reason thumpers use cush drives on the rear wheel. Tames the impulse from the single cylinder and uses it more efficiently over the entire stroke.

[@GodschildinNC]

Oh man the struggle is real!!! You keep plugging away at it and you will get there. I understand the frustration that Ike had when the second chain broke.

[@whollymindless]

Welcome to the addiction. Burt would understand.

[@josteincarlsen2905]

Offerings to the gods of speed

[@brettmcgee2982]

I would like to see John’s dad more … he getting to be my favorite part of cars and cameras

[@SportbikerNZ]

I have to say, it seemed almost appropriate for the goofy bike at 16:46 to be doing silly things like dropping junk on the track at the cusp of a top speed run.

[@WyFoster]

The guy borrowed an umbrella from the starter. He dropped it on the ground when he took off. Had forgot he left it on the side car.

[@SportbikerNZ]

@@WyFoster 👍 Having such a narrow rear wheel base would be gosh awful dicey at high speed, surely. *edit, maybe it's the camera angle that makes it look so narrow.

[@WyFoster]

@@SportbikerNZ That was an old push rod class bike. Think he topped out around 80 if I recall. Not toooooo wild.

[@calledinsick6572]

hang in there guys . it be fine

[@kompressahdnb]

nice one guys. cant wait for pt.2

[@kendiggy]

Fingers crossed for you guys! Here's a thought - next year try to find a Bonneville wagon to haul your land speed bike to Bonneville! I bet Kevin over at JYD can help you out, if there's nothing in your area!

[@bonecrushercurtis6949]

🏆 John is wearing the best sun hat 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 ! I know because I have one just like it 🏆