Will it lift?? LEGO Technic Liebherr LR 13000 extreme load test, comparison and price evaluation

[@RacingBrick]

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[@kinexxona06]

WHY BREAK LEGOS????????????????????????????

[@GamMngitSssEmoTionaL5953]

hope having great weekend you do great in depth videos of lego and lego technic but being a motorsport fan for 20 odd years now you cant compare the Ferrari set as ferrari have told lego thats fine you can make that but we want this much per sale its ferrari the charge so much for that name being on a product and so lego had to charge a far bit more in order to make it viable and so your comparison for parts to the Liebherr really isnt a good comparison without the ferrari badge on the set they would sell it for far less id say half of what they are charging for it without the ferrari name on it other than that great video thanks again 😎

[@RJ1.]

hello

[@nick.peterson]

“You really have to be careful with your load” more truthful words have never been spoken. Thanks for the great review as always. It’s a shame these cool Lego sets are appearing in a time where there has never been more competition for my disposable income, in my opinion.

[@tubybubi]

That's what she said.😂

[@sitsia3808]

Same

[@soham_and]

@@tubybubi 😂😂

[@deepcanionstudioita3818]

bro💀

[@RCmies]

Ok the price starts to make a bit more sense seeing it next to the bucket wheel excavator which has almost 4000 pieces. It's like double the size. Plus the mechanical and software engineering that went to this is insane for a toy.

[@janos5555]

But they only had to do it once, so the price spreads over thousands of sets. I don't really think that this is a good argument. The design process is always expensive. 500€ and 350€ in the store would have been an ok price. I personally don't even like all these Control+ functions, you no longer have to do any thinking of your own, but it is probably better for most customers.

[@RCmies]

@@janos5555 Yes creating a user friendly experience and a toy of this complexity being able to be put together by most people is not easy, and definitely complicates the design process. I think the 500€ price is fair, but 680€ is way too much. I briefly looked at some model cranes and I think I couldn't find an RC one that worked like this, at least not under 1000 euros, although there were ones that were much more detailed and realistic in scale but they werent RC I think. I didn't do much research though. I think 450€, and dropping the Liebherr name altogether (since it looks far from the source material) this set would be pretty amazing.

[@PrintScreen.]

the price still doesn't make sense lol Mould King has the same crane model for $220 it's also far bigger, it has 4318 bricks while the LEGO one has 2883, a max height of 2.1 meters, fully motorized with RC+app LEGO is just greedy

[@kaibuhler7559]

No bro...air is not payable...and this set is almost only air after the base section

[@arieltrenestrenes1115]

Exacto!

[@evade_me]

An important note is that this set is not available from non-lego stores in a lot of countries. Here in central and northern Europe (especially Denmark) it's easy to find a steal but that's not a possibility for most people.

[@robinmonchgesang1523]

True story This build is exclusive to Lego Branded stores and one other in Australia so there will be no 20% off LOL. TBH there probably is not even 20% margin at RRP.

[@Gin-toki]

On the other hand, many other countries have various forms of cash-backs which we don't have in DK.

[@Metagross555]

They should have gone for the LR 1300, a way more common crane and still has a huge variety of configurations, derrick, floating ballast tray, ballast wagon, jib, etc.

[@kjerins]

Wow, I did not expect the crane to be able to lift that much, even with the added counterweight! Seeing this video, the price definitely starts sounding a lot more reasonable. Still too much for me, and I wouldn't have anywhere to put it if I did buy it, so I'll stick with some of the smaller cranes. Thinking about picking up Big Red and/or the blue crawler crane someday.

[@JoeDirt612]

I highly recommend the 42042 crawler crane. the biggest flaw is the white slipper gear and the turning I've got mine to lift over 3 pounds.but I've also rebuilt my with a few custom parts and a lot of pieces from different sets

[@afluffyplant9970]

I had big red as a kid and loved it so much. I could lift about a pound of beans in a custom lego container I made!

[@soham_and]

but they're retired now, how will you buy them? i've been looking for retired sets too, can't find them anywhere.

[@kjerins]

@@soham_and Have you tried Bricklink? You can find just about any set there.

[@DotADBX]

cranes are not meant for long reaching straight out from the counter weight its only designed to do that for inspection and building the crane/taking it apart no one IRL is going to lift with the boom fully extended forward because its not designed to do that in terms of the counter weight system.

[@stonksrgud7645]

i am just waiting until some crazy builder buys 3 of them and builds the actual crane :D

[@janwijninckx3598]

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[@deltafrost4976]

Man now we need tower crane

[@stevemastbaum]

I used to play with legos over 45 years ago, all I had were basically square, rectangular pieces and wheels. They were my favorite toys to play with I really used my imagination when building things with them.

[@bo-yc1vd]

i can't really find a reason for those new counterweights being so light, since the rear also touches the ground with rolling balls for stable moving when unloaded

[@GamerErman2001]

Might have to deal with shipping costs.

[@bo-yc1vd]

@@GamerErman2001 yeah how lego could afford them

[@Mr.Engine993]

Maybe making them part-metal made it too costly or there were other manufacturing/shipping difficulties. From an engineering standpoint, they should've been at least twice as heavy

[@janverzee9423]

Cranes are all about balance. A real crane has a lifting book with a lot of tables with information on which angle which load can be lifted safely..

[@deltafrost4976]

I hope one day lego will make some kind of big li-po rechargeable battery

[@LievGamesOfficial]

li-ion would be better but would prolly cost like 500$

[@OTOMAGIC]

​@@LievGamesOfficiala good Li-Po battery for RC applications is around 40/50€, i know lego overprices stuff but they can't be that bad.

[@PersonMcFaceFace]

Very well made video, I haven't seen anyone else do a thorough price justification with the weight yet

[@biganguria]

3:46 DAAAAMN the excavator occupies 40% of my room

[@jamespeirce2582]

In terms of appearance, I suspect folks got to have either 1) something closer to the original in appearance with relatively disappointing lifting and balancing capabilities (limitations of material) or 2) something closely inspired by the original with shifts designed to be more capable and playable (what we got here). I’d bet people would be a lot more disappointed in #1 than what we have.

[@robl39]

I loved seeing the bucket wheel excavator in the video! In my opinion, it’s the greatest technic set of all time!

[@Millie_oo0]

I agree and that’s why I’m hoping to make one in a few months!

[@YFDTHEGREAT1]

yes, but mine struggles with its functions alot

[@Millie_oo0]

@@YFDTHEGREAT1 are you using a motor and if so what motor is it (m, l, xl etc)

[@YFDTHEGREAT1]

@@Millie_oo0 using the xl that came with I'm pretty sure

[@Millie_oo0]

@@YFDTHEGREAT1 I think it’s the clutch that may be struggling as I don’t see any other way for it’s functions to not be working. Unless the motor has been damaged

[@cr4sh1]

Closest vs Highest. Closest will be creating the lowest Moment into the crane as the distance from the Red tip of the boom to the Grey base of the boom is the shortest. The Force is at a shorter distance from the Crane in the closest position than it is in the Highest

[@andisteslonoks2011]

Wow that I did not expect that even with the counterweights added

[@joeydegregorio9274]

Its the closed position when straight up cause on a ladus crane which thats what it is. All the weight goes to the pin by base of the machine. So higher the main and luffer more she will pick

[@dr.mayhem277]

Price breakdown was a helpful visual. There are definitely a lot of big pieces. If the whole boom was made like an old boom instead of using the big frames it would have had a lot higher piece count and the build experience would have been sooooo boring 😂

[@jzcapets]

Those repetitive steps are good opportunities for younger builders (read: children) to help out on the tougher technic builds though

[@pedro380085]

Fantastic review! The counterweights experiment was great and really show how powerful this crane is!

[@ferrariforever1]

With 2 of this set combined, I think you can build a model more similar to the real one. Looking forward to that MOC.

[@kentslocum]

Even though I'm not nearly enough of a Technic or Leibherr crane fan to even briefly consider acquiring this set, I must admit that this is the umpteenth video I've watched about this behemoth of a LEGO set. After absorbing so much coverage of this long-rumored, highly-anticipated, and controversial set, I have come to the conclusion that this is actually not a bad LEGO Technic set. In fact, it's more than decent--it's actually rather good! The problem, as you point out, is that it is branded as the Liebherr 13000. Branding this set as a specific make and model of real-world vehicle brings with it certain expectations, which unfortunately were not met by this design. I agree that this set would have been far better received if it lacked the Liebherr branding, or if LEGO had opted for a somewhat more affordable and accurate replica of a smaller Liebherr crane.

[@coffeeinhandproductions3238]

Great comparisons, and pricing break down. Seeing this thing actually able to pick up the bucket Excavator was mighty impressive.

[@astonm1990]

Very impressed by the actual lifting capacity with kettlebell counterweight!

[@liamaston6545]

Super Informative and detailed information about the 'beast" The size is truly mighty! If only it were a little bit cheaper.........

[@PrintScreen.]

get Mould King 17015 if you can afford it, it's around $230 with a lot more pieces

[@litmuscheck]

I preordered it with a ~30% discount. You just have to find the right reseller.

[@michisnet]

I bought it...and i love the crane...it is amazing...i bought it for 450€...this ok! i dont understand why all other youtubers say that it is not good!? i love it!

[@jawjuk]

Thanks for answering our questions! That was an incredible video. The BWE is still my largest LEGO set and to see it lifted here was humbling! Brilliant work.

[@bd-vdwd2139]

Love your detailed review. Still think that liebherr is an awesome set

[@Shorjok]

Really nice to get such an in depth video.

[@VictorP-e1e]

Makes me want to add this theme to my collection. Thanks for the awesome reviews and comparisons!

[@Prestini508]

I love the luffing jib derrick boom combo

[@rezusdanieltudorsLEGOchannel]

Nice set ! I agree with the price comparasion! The load capacity with the extra conterweight is very impressive! Love your videos! I am a subscriber from the very beginig.

[@carterhouston3212]

7:33 If you were to add more sheaves to the load block and run the line from the boom to the block several more times then the motors will be able to lift more weight.

[@TVTim86]

I think the "closest" position is called this because the end of the crane is closest to the superstructure in this position.

[@Mr.Engine993]

Meaning that the "closest" position is actually the one that lifts the most load without tipping over and not the "highest". Makes sense from a physics standpoint

[@shanemichaelduggan4521]

4:30 answer- because that’s where it’s max lift extending lift it will probably tip if you jib down and hoist up max

[@davidwehr9794]

when is lawn mower review coming out?

[@RacingBrick]

Lol, if you really want to see it... it's a great machine btw :)

[@glowpipe]

The price might not be the best for many. But for me, the build, the technology behind the function of the crane etc made it worth it. + my old liebherr needed its brother! That being said. i bought the set from a third party supplied for around ~€590 So im not complaining. Just finished the build now, but haven't been able to lift anything yet, as i was unsure how much would be safe. Gonna play around with a kilo tomorrow

[@pauldocherty8906]

Going to use the CAT D11 as a feeder set for tracks and P boom conversion before Lego release spare boom section parts, need to find longer string to give to the hook block and extended boom sections. Superlift tray on wheels to replace the ball sockets. Should be finished in about 2 years 😁

[@otm646]

Look at braided fishing line, It's incredibly strong and easy to tie. Much nicer to work with than monofilament.

[@AdamThygerson-lm1gt]

I dont have the set with me but one reason that the position is "closest" is that the distance from the red tip where the hook lowers to the cabin of the crane may be shorter than the highest position.

[@JTCF]

42009 is really getting dwarved in comparison, but its will stay in my heart as the coolest crane in lego technic.

[@Icerandomizer]

What they mean by closest is that position is the closest to the center of gravity of the vehicle.

[@legobreakingnews5719]

Thank you for this review. I totally agree that the functions and the app are nice to build and to play with. But in my opinion the build itself isn‘t detailed enough to cost that much. And the solution for the weights and everything else is too rough for me. So probably not my dream- set, since I am totally happy with the red crane, which you don‘t have to steer with an app.

[@ceesvolkers866]

With 2 sets, you could build it faithfully. The arms and jip would already be longer, the house twice as large, with a slightly shifted center. On the back an extra arm, from which an extra heavy counter weight could hang, you have to make these weights yourself, preferably from iron. For the real weight. With of course the roller balls underneath. Look at the mamoet PTC 210

[@chrissbrick4989]

you should build the crane booms to be longer so the set is more realistic

[@stefan_5.7]

Have to say i was impressed by it, its fun to operate amd build, i think if the turntable assembly was more rigid it would help with the lifting capacity as it tends to lean forward quite a bit under load

[@edward3136]

Great video friend. I have seen a lot of folks who don't like this set, but YOU have to find sets that YOU like. I don't have every UCS Star Wars set, but the Millennium Falcon and the Star Destroyer were for me. The Titanic was also for me, but the Eiffel Tower while being very cool, is NOT for me. The Leibherr LR 13000 IS for me. I love cranes and heavy equipment. The functionality and size of this thing is absolutely amazing. I also have the Liebherr excavator and love that one too. Unless you can afford one of everything, we all have to find the sets we like best for whatever reason and stick to the plan.

[@dimi727]

The position: closest refers to the hook position relativ to the body of the liebherr? 🤔 Regarding the counterweights: why did Lego put so little counter weight for that price and not just more of those plastic things? at least that improves the performance of the crane... It hasnt to be too much (like you tried with the extra 6kg weight), because it would stress the parts too much I guess, but this is just sad this way :/

[@radowanos]

I think they say it is 100cm because the hook of the crane can reach only 100 cm

[@butwait]

you need to order the boom parts and extend each boom in order to make it more accurate. double the lower front and rear booms

[@RacingBrick]

Well, considering the practice this year we might need to wait another 3 months to be able to order those parts from LEGO directly. Might appear on Bricklink sooner, but they won't be cheap for sure.

[@aeromoe]

@@RacingBrick As of 2 August at least one Bricklink store in Texas has the yellow boom sections for U.S. $45 for the group of four pieces to make one truss section. Yeah - the Bricklink "scalpers" are going to be asking premium prices for these pieces.

[@soemardi8885]

I know why they are set the limit colour like that, even the hoist can lift up the same weight its because it have tipping point. And the more boom radius you have they are decrease the weught limit. The winch for main hoist still able to lift that, but you need another set up for counterweight and for sure it give a lot off stress to the part. Some operator i know they are more likely work in small radius than a longer one.

[@diatonicdelirium1743]

Compare it to the Mould King 17015 for EUR 160 (at the time of writing)... that one has a proper remote control, more pieces, 2m30 high, double tracks on each side, and as far as I can tell it is made with GoBricks pieces (i.e. at least as good as Lego). Then go out and buy yourself a Liebherr fridge for EUR 400, and stock it up with beer with your final EUR 120.

[@johasthemo7119]

Its probably called the closest because the point at which the hook is swinging from is closest to the centre of mass.

[@johnnytifosi]

I like the price to weight comparison, this should be standards practice for reviewing lego instead of the price to part ratio. Lego includes so many tiny piece nowadays.

[@aeromoe]

@johnnytifosi Absolutely. This set includes over 1,400 pins and axles...pieces that fit through a hole. That's not including some of the pins that have other protrusions on them. So half the part count are pieces that retail on Bricklink at a small fraction of the price-per-piece calculation.

[@mose5823]

Chance missed out for Lego to sell extra Sets with additional Counterweights

[@CubeAtlantic]

These cranes are kind of dope & nicely vast.

[@exactinmidget92]

i dont know how lego determines the price but 700 for 2k is just silly. the excavator and wheel excavator have double the pieces and originally retailed for 350 and 250 respectively. both are old and retired sets and can still be found for under 500 bucks. there is also the Mold King version that has 4k pieces and retails for 200. the only downside about the Mold King version is that its stupid tall at 6 feet.

[@RayLTX956]

I wanna buy one so bad, I can use my 3d printer to get more length on the Luffer, I’m a rigger by trade I worked with this model of crane several times

[@rubenramos-wp4nw]

They call that position the closest because that would be the angle you would be working with in real life YES you can get closer to the crane in the highest position but that is not what gets don in real life

[@tew3]

good price breakdown

[@nathancommissariat3518]

Really Interesting Insights here. Thank you!

[@davidgelencser4269]

You can limit the rotation of the lego by moving the joystick less.

[@Ahelping-hand]

rough terrien crane haveing almost double pices in the corner ''am I a joke to you"

[@carlsoll]

5:43 *Gasp* not everyone is a certified crane operator 🏗️

[@LeeGosniper]

I missed out on a used set for $550AUD twice in my area. Just sourced one tonight for $600AUD so that's this weekend sorted.

[@Caosthereal]

this set is very impressive

[@LimChingLiang]

In Asia we got 11.11 biggest sales of the year. 30% off, that will be the perfect time.

[@Stefan0671]

In Germany we get 40% off nearly every month.

[@justinsimpson886]

It's huge, it's expensive and I don't really have the space for it but I will be saving for it for sure.

[@orcaplays7456]

Bought it and built it definitely worth the price tag very impressive model! I’m enjoying it a lot!

[@guy990]

Excellent tests and video, interesting set from LEGO, really they are in a tough spot between what they can do with the toy and who they can sell it to with the price. A lot of cool technic structures and movement outside of that.

[@DarrenBarlow-e2d]

Would the branding come into the pricing on the Ferrari?

[@RacingBrick]

There's also branding on the Liebherr

[@DarrenBarlow-e2d]

@@RacingBrick thanks for the reply. From Australia 🇦🇺. A little over 1,000 for it here.

[@nadirsalahialasbahi2845]

I don't have any real data but I strongly suspect Ferrari can demand more than Liebherr for branding, thus explaining at least partially the orice difference.

[@ChrisSV98]

The fact you can lift around 7 pounds is impressive!

[@IoRobot_98]

I've recently got back into LEGO, I stopped almost 10 years ago when I was a kid... and to me, this set is the pinnacle of what I've noticed with LEGO's prices, some are almost a steal (Like the €50 Bugatti) others are almost offensive (like this crane)... others have little sense, like the Peugeot 9X8 and the Ford GT... both have a similar amount of piece (a difference of around 15%) but almost a 50% difference in price... now, I get that some sets are "cooler" and better looking, but I think that the biggest problem with the prices of LEGO sets nowadays is the inconsistencies... I see many sets that look like an excellent offer, while others that are extremely similar have prices that are simply unjustifiable... and the new Power Functions or PowerUps or however they're called... they're sad, I remember the creativity one could unleash with Power Function motors and accessories, all at a reasonable price, now? You need a barely decent app to do everything, and they don't even make a "Pack" with a hub, motors and controller like they used to! It's a bit sad all things considered, and it's a pity that LEGO chased "normal" toys losing its creativity aspect... at least for me.

[@TheDethsight]

I would have loved to purchased it from a local dealer. but the only "local" dealer is a lego store 1.5 hours from me. and it will be the same 700 there that it is online. the joys of being in the middle of nowhere!

[@Abirhingorani797]

Good idea for adding more weight

[@backyardSurfer8]

@RacingBrick Where can I find the instructions for the white container?

[@worldfamousgamer9191]

i think they call it the closest means the closest to the ground, idk it's a guess.

[@legomattie3295]

Very good review in both vids. I should pay more attention to your uploads. Thank you.

[@vincentlaramee4808]

Again another great video!

[@JackSawyer-h9u]

Bricklink has quite a few listings under $500 so if I ever buy one I will get it from there

[@kogucior35]

Is the Titanic really only 7.75 kg? It must be heavier than that considering the box with the pieces before assembly was 13kg+ and I'm certain that the cardboard boxes and plastic bags can't weigh more than 4-5kg

[@MCohSnap]

You forgot about the books

[@kogucior35]

@@MCohSnap Yeah.. but still

[@RacingBrick]

I measured it myself and you can find the same value on brickmerge.de

[@ZaluTheBoss]

Solo di manuali saranno almeno 2 chili. Il peso indicato nel video è esatto

[@henribg1]

i think for this ptice there shoud be no stickers and maybe a tech minifigure will be a nice add! can you please tell me if this set is compatable with 51515? maybe some robots can be made from both of them?

[@techni-cmate4746]

Nice Review, just want to ask if it's possible to add more Truss to increase the height like 42042, i hope you will try that next time, tnx

[@RacingBrick]

Those parts are not available yet

[@biganguria]

honestly the 42042 is my favourite (and I dont have it), but the 42082 is the coolest then ofc the others are fine too. the 42146 is too expensive and I may buy it in 2024/25

[@biganguria]

7:05 DAAAMN theres no way this is possible 😱😱

[@RacingBrick]

Well, you just saw it happening :)

[@jeremygorski9801]

Why does the crane not have 1 additional part in at the front to stop him from falling over like on the back?

[@briqtastic]

I think the price is okay because of the electric components. But still, it's a lot of money and many LEGO fans cannot afford is. But the good thing is, there are enough other sets for every budget.

[@AmauryJacquot]

congratulations to whomever at lego came up with this design (Markus Kossmann was involved, no doubt !)

[@Noah-t7q7n]

Brick science made heavy-duty lego motors, maybe with some metal beams, it could make the crane stronger.

[@WizardOfOss]

Impressive to see it lift that BWE! Judged on its own merits, I don't think this is a bad set. Not at all. Not perfect either with a few pretty glaring flaws, but generally pretty good, and easily the best implementation of the dreaded Control+ system so far. But the price and the license don't do it any favors. Had this been just a no-name crawler crane for €450-500, it could have been an instant classic. And maybe Lego should look back at the PF days, where not everything had to be remote controlled but used gearboxes to achieve the same results with less motors. But also, I just saw a similar crane from Mould King.....at a fraction of the price but a lot bigger (even when made from just regular pieces for the booms!) and looking a lot more like the real thing. And that one seems no slouch either when it comes to functionality. And sure, MK is a brand with more than a few issues, but I can't help but feel a bit the same as with the Lego flex-Ferrari vs. the CADA "Italian Sports Car": the commie brands not just being cheaper but actually making a far superior product.

[@kei-origami-lego]

it s massive

[@GamMngitSssEmoTionaL5953]

hope having great weekend you do great in depth videos of lego and lego technic but being a motorsport fan for 20 odd years now you cant compare the Ferrari set as ferrari have told lego thats fine you can make that but we want this much per sale its ferrari the charge so much for that name being on a product and so lego had to charge a far bit more in order to make it viable and so your comparison for parts to the Liebherr really isnt a good comparison without the ferrari badge on the set they would sell it for far less id say half of what they are charging for it without the ferrari name on it other than that great video thanks again

[@berellevy2]

Small piece count but very large pieces. And a lot of thought went in to it.

[@iknowthatdubin4877]

Why not test it against the Moukd king cwaler crane

[@brickXperiments]

Very impressive, indeed - but how long do you think the app will be supported for this set? Even ignoring the price tag, may some collectors/"investors" wake up one day with a fully NOT any more functional giant pile of plastic? 2 years? 5? 10?

[@RacingBrick]

Basic motor control will be available practically "forever", as the protocol is open and there are already 3rd party apps available. Keeping the exact interface with the calibration and other bells and whistles is a different thing.

[@ISAFMobius18]

I wonder if Licensing of official brands also accounts for the cost

[@itz_lexiii_]

TBF, the PU components alone are worth almost $300. Powered Up or Pneumatics is one of the quickest ways to inflate a lego sets price

[@FluffiestWalrus]

The pre-release sales are fairly common in Europe, but basically don’t exist is the US :/

[@Lister373]

I’d love to see a head-to-head with the CAT D11; looks like the Cat has more pieces but less electronics for less money. How do they compare dollar for dollar?