Racism in China vs the US

We had a conversation with a foreigner who has lived in Shanghai, China, for several years to hear her perspective on how black people might experience racism in the United States compared to their experiences in China.
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[@smome7773]

Glad she touched on the colorism aspect. The likelihood of them being nicer to her bc she could potentially be "mixed" is very real.

[@FionaBologna]

I was thinking the same exact thing

[@dsadik666]

Her speaking their language helped the most.

[@magos_0083]

If she didn’t speak the language it would be a diff stiry

[@TheFeederabis]

nah, she def score 100 at hate/ignorance point. in the US "hate" racism is no joke

[@timmychan6282]

@@dsadik666 Her speaking our language does not help her anything here in the US.

[@d626g3]

Her idea of acceptance sounds more like tolerance.

[@yaoxai]

i think thats what shes saying. chinese are ignorant as they are a mostly homogeneous country with many who hold the same values as the CCP, and view foreigners as bad. to them and chinese society it is “acceptance” but compared to more diverse countries with a large history of immigrants, our version of “acceptance” is more of exactly that, acceptance.

[@Shogun1982]

Exactly ..... which is better than the homegrown *intolerance* that she's used to.

[@ytrewq12345]

Yup, tolerance beats hate.... I wonder why...

[@PunditKING]

Any type of racism is bad.. Chinese ppl complain about racism too. Look how most recently they attacked Apple for the add of a woman.. Calling her an ugly Chinese woman and where unhappy that she was used and insulted, there truth. Saying it was racist too Chinese ppl. Come to find out that this real live human being wasn't Chinese not even 0.1% at all, she was Native American and lighter skinned than her. Not one apology for their hate even after THE TRUTH was revealed. Such a sad mob mentality.

[@nikoutoajaisai6310]

But isn't that what living in this world all comes down to, Tolerance.

[@lilithawitch]

As a Chinese I can say whether or not you can speak Chinese has a huge huge influence

[@jovensalabre1792]

and

[@vinnyli3081]

@@jovensalabre1792every other race other than Chinese speaking our language shows our people kind of an affirmation you’re good people. Shows you have a level of respect for our people and culture to learn our language

[@letsomethingshine]

Chinese are a very literate culture, so knowing language is a sure first big step to knowing and following the culture.

[@magiccarpetrider4594]

Nonsense. It’s skin tone. The whiter, you are the more they like you

[@menelmacar0109]

@@jovensalabre1792 Foreigners who speak Chinese are perceived as well-educated and respectful to our culture. Skin colour is really irrelevant if you display signs that you are here for decent reasons.

[@user-eo4vb6fi1j]

Yes, especially, you could speak Chinese. Even a little bit, most of Chinese would be glad to accept you.

[@user-ub5po4ho3p]

not if the person is japanese.

[@Redditor6079]

Yeah that goes for almost anywhere in the world bub. If you take the time to learn the culture and language before visiting you'll be much more accepted by the locals than if you just show up as an English only Westerner. It's called assimilation, people are more open to those who share things they themselves have such as language/culture. Here in America assimilation is oddly frowned upon but that disdain is often from people who have never visited other parts of the world and are therefore more ignorant.

[@asves4536]

@@user-ub5po4ho3pnowadays no one cares anymore unless it’s the older generation

[@upgrademebb7637]

It’s rare that people actually acknowledge colorism

[@lawrencelawrence8553]

Which is ironic because that's a "thing" in most ethnic countries. Even Asians have "light skinned vs dark-skinned" issue. From what I gather researching behind the scenes drama in the K pop and J pop world at least

[@mebtuberhanu]

This is a choice between two evils. She found the chinese colorism more tolerable than the american racism

[@Reituco]

What the hell is that

[@anguineus_vir]

That's because we are an inferior species in the universe

[@ElusiveTy]

​@@ReitucoA new flavour -ism word of the month!

[@Bri-ss1gu]

It’s so refreshing that she acknowledged colorism, because it really does go beyond black-on-black prejudice. Other races will absolutely treat us differently depending on the “type” of black person they think we are, and that even extends beyond colorism to things like how you speak, how you choose to wear/style your hair, etc. Racism is such a multifaceted experience, and just because you are members of the same group doesn't mean you’ll experience it the same way.

[@sjsupa]

how you speak, how you choose to wear/style your hair matters. However, degree of darkness does not. The players of Cuba women's volleyball teams of 1980s and 1990s are well received and respected in China. They are very black and were actually the adversary of the the Chinese team.

[@trophyscene5015]

@@sjsupa I don't think you can compare that situation to walking around in everyday life. Most people respect athletes because they are good at something and they are respected for their physical abilities regardless of who they are. It's no different than when extremely racist people in the South watch the basketball players and are fans of them even though they actually hate black people. It's just because of the fact that they are athletes that they're willing to tolerate and enjoy what they do.

[@sjsupa]

@@trophyscene5015you are wrong on this. Those cuba VB players were not respected for just their physical abilities, but their fighting spirit and good manner. It is not tolerance but actual admiration. In comparison, the Italian Black player Paola Egonu is not well received in China. I am a Chinese living in US for last 20 years and I am big volleyball fan for 40+ years. I know what you are talking about, and I know what I am talking about.

[@andykg7103]

@@sjsupa have you considered that politics and PR play a large role

[@sjsupa]

@@andykg7103 politics and PR play a large role in the Chinese treating the Cuba players? No. They were not well received in China at the beginning either. After all, they were trying to overtook the Chinese team as the top of world. But they won the respect of the Chinese fans when the 2 teams played more and more. Look. USA volleyball player Foluke Akinradewo is very much dark black, and she is very well received in China. However, not everyone USA VB player, white or black, is respected by Chinese fans.

[@benabka]

I am a brown guy. I have lived in china for the last 10 years. In china, it's not about race but cultural social status. Culturally and historically in china, the darker tone people, including chinese, get their tone from working the fields (poor people) , on the opposite, lighter skin tone people are perceived as indoor people with higher social and money status. It comes from their history.

[@EmyN]

That’s not just in China though, although recently a lot of places a tan is a sign of wealth because it means you can go on vacation lolll

[@farhannadeemahmedaiitj5323]

​@@EmyN Yeah that's true in the west

[@annnnxh]

​@@EmyN only In the west. In most of Asia, tan/dark skinned= lower class.

[@ashutoshsingh72476]

​@@EmyNyeah u're saying right..I'm Indian and brownish and went to Miami beach last year but girl's there by their own asking or trying to indulge with me that where I come from and on which countries I have visited or beaches and now tanning is new trend going on their and now they love more brownish skin over white and yeah I made many friends too there😅

[@LibertyIndiaRose]

That’s literally what’s it’s like all around the world though from Europe to india to china 😂

[@davidtomlinson907]

It's more xenophobia than racism

[@nakim1200]

What's the difference?

[@RandomGuy-ghs]

@@nakim1200 the difference is xenophobia can be overcome once you realize we’re both human, and racism refuses to acknowledge that.

[@mekax89]

Wrong. They don’t pet white people from different countries. They literally stare, take pictures of, and attempt to touch parts of our bodies without permission in Asian countries. It’s racism.

[@MrLittletube]

Oh so that’s much better then. Give me a break.

[@maximusasauluk7359]

I mean, to be honest in the states what she described happens more often than other parts of the developed world to everyone, black or otherwise. Americans just seem randomly more violent on average

[@meep2605]

She got me at "Obama black" she is sooo.... aware lol.

[@lukesutton4135]

Bruh if a tenth of what these self proclaimed victims said was true, they'd be billionaires.

[@rarixz]

@@lukesutton4135delete your comment before i find where you work

[@broannoying8765]

​@@lukesutton4135They are victims. The problem is at this point they still think they're the biggest victims when Asians and Brown people suffer more racism in modern day than them, and sometimes BY them.

[@bychen5011]

@@lukesutton4135Your pfp checks out

[@mediocrecorps]

​@@lukesutton4135Unkempt neckbeard detected. Opinion rejected.

[@Razear]

Any foreigner that makes an attempt to speak in a country's native tongue will automatically be perceived more favourably because it kind of lets the guard down. It opens the gateway for a greater sense of connection.

[@jerrymiller9039]

In many cases it also makes no difference. Asia is known for widespread racism between different asean groups and against non aseans. Case in point, Japan occupied Korea for about fifty years ending with their defeat in WWII. I have met Koreans that were not allowed to speak Korean when they were in school. A Japanese tourist saying a few words in Korean is not going to over ride that.

[@nanonano.beepbeep]

It makes no difference.

[@kiki_ci3880]

Yeah until they realise you're not a tourist but actually live there. Then its "go back to your country, cant even speak properly" dont mean to be negative but its what it its....

[@jerrymiller9039]

@@kiki_ci3880 that was not my experience and I have lived in Korea and Germany

[@kiki_ci3880]

@@jerrymiller9039 what? You literally said you saw racism in asia😭

[@nanaomani]

I live in the United States and I have never felt like people hate me or want to kill me or threaten me for being black. I live very comfortably in a predominantly white community. I would say it’s a middle class white suburb.

[@elliewall7621]

Thank you for your comment. Her claim that (light skinned) people in the US hate her and want to kill her because of her skin color is her is simply critical race theory. Separating and fomenting animosity between races is a marxist strategy for gaining social control as the "fixers" of the problems they create.

[@garrepallidanielvivek9329]

Asian Racism is different from American Racial discrimination is bad.. That's very true😅, we respect races. Doesn't mean we look for inclusion...😅

[@slm1163]

She’s sharing her truth and it’s not every black person’s experience.

[@jimjam2024]

I would like to know where these stores are that she's been told to leave from bc she's black.

[@studiohq]

@@jimjam2024 You mean in the US? It does happen and it depends on where you live. There are still sundown towns here.

[@jimjam2024]

@@studiohq name them?

[@jesusisgodislove9912]

​@@jimjam2024 There are thousands of videos of Black/Brown people being profiled & harassed. Google is free. 🙄

[@crunchycountrycatholic]

​@@jimjam2024I lived in an impoverished part of Memphis, Tn for four years and was told 3 separate times while out walking my dog in broad daylight that I needed to leave because white girls didn't belong there. I was just as broke as the black girl next door. But you can't be racist to white people, obviously... 😒

[@OpalStar76]

I’m glad she touched on the fact that her experiences as a lighter skinned person may differ from someone who is darker. A lot of people forget about the colorism aspect and then generalize.

[@gummy5862]

Maybe it could be because she’s a woman too? People do tend to feel more threatened by black men.

[@HailEarendil]

@@gummy5862 Black women in the USA have a higher crime rate than most other demographics, including White and Asian men.

[@lavenderbambi3501]

​@@gummy5862but ppl r also misogynystic

[@Roma-SRyan]

racism is still racism. focusing on how lighter skin get less racism doesn't solve the issue of racism.

[@gummy5862]

@@lavenderbambi3501 Women have the upper hand when it comes to people feeling genuinely threatened/uncomfortable. Women aren’t expected to be as aggressive or scary. Women get to be a little more handsy with other people than men.

[@a.w.3772]

Who is threatening Black people with violent, racist hatred in tne USA??????

[@sarhan5568]

The stereotypes has a reason behind them. You can't just ignore that or overlook it. Loot at Walmart closing their business in certain neighborhoods.

[@ChikeCheeke]

I lived in a rural village in China that had never or rarely seen a black man. Truth is, most had never seen a black man and many didn't know of Africa or Nigeria. The locals where super fascinated by me and i couldn't even speak the language. Every night the head of the community and a few older men would bring local made spirit to me with a pack of cigarettes (they always offered me cigarettes everywhere i went, they called it hospitality. Reminds me of how we offer visitors kolanut in my village in Nigeria). So most nights i would sit with these men and drink until after mid night. The grannies always gave me fruit from their garden when i walked by. I don't know if it was because i was taller than everyone in the village or if it was the long dreadlocks. The younger ones would show me pictures of bob Marley on their phones and shout "one love". Haha. Such a simple life that was.

[@qianmo_main]

This is good to hear in a comment sectipn like this!! I always love these simple people, many dont think about this as much as others do they are really just more open.

[@angrymaniac53]

No I don't think it's because you are taller. It's pretty common in Asia to give other people (people they know) some fruits, vegetables,etc

[@-_-meh69]

Damn😢 you are so lucky.

[@-_-meh69]

I want to learn Chinese 😢

[@hangsthemighty912]

Ahhh man that really does sound so sweet. Rural communities tend to be so sweet. Happy to see you had such a good experience ❤

[@CelestialAgony829]

No one should have to "prefer" a type of racism. People should stop being racist.

[@devarient]

Black people should stop killing one another and looting from other black store owners in the name of blm. Until then sorry but I'm going to call a square a square

[@GuardTower]

American racism is different than other countries... In my country "Racism" are jokes or being a descriptor for an individual instead of hate and discrimination.

[@JoeeyTheeKangaroo]

Well they won't so grow up

[@unom8]

Of course :)

[@nebunezz_r]

But your racism are a brand of its own, racism here means you're a meme subject, but the thing is even the supermajor ethnicity here has became meme longer than the minority. Your brand of racism consists of literal slavery.

[@rajsrivastav6940]

stores in usa push black people out ? what is she talking about ?

[@charnewyngaard9598]

Absolutely so spot on. I’m South African and the racism I experienced when I first moved to Asia (only in the beginning, due to lack of knowledge on their part) is just different. Felt different.

[@jwp-yh8wh]

South African blacks were racist as f***** in SA.

[@ukbakrol]

Ok good now make sure you guys dont treat other when they come to ur neighbourhood. Be the change u want to see in others.

[@SeudXe]

Shes very open minded to not assume all blacks are treated like her. If it hasn’t happened to you that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.

[@funnystranger3380]

People need to understand that people in the us see blacks looting the burning building and having the crime rates of most of the crime... so the us looks at people differently (US as the people) In other countries, they don't have that issue they see them as black people who they don't like. They have no ideal reason to hate them.

[@ElusiveTy]

Exactly. This mindset should be applied to everything, like when people claim men are never the victims of women.

[@g3toutth3way]

But not so open minded to act like in the United States Black people get constantly threatened with violence. Are you joking me?

[@catenjoyer76]

​@@g3toutth3way She didn't say that... It is true that in the USA there's a lot of racism and black people have been treated with violence just because their skin is black, that's what she said. Obviously, not everyone is racist and not everyone in the USA treats black people like this, she never implied that.

[@ahn3980]

​@@g3toutth3way I mean, I am assuming she's speaking on her personal experience...

[@catnior]

The fact that you have to choose a racism to prefer is still sad within itself

[@dustbuster]

You don’t. There is almost no racism in the US, in terms of normal everyday life. Sure there are some things here and there but it’s not nearly as bad as people make it out to be

[@catnior]

@@dustbuster I’m sorry to be that guy but. How do you know?

[@ConfusedBackgammon-ix7ey]

@@dustbusteryeah, system racism left the chat there…yk the US is THE NUMBER ONE COUNTRY where black people are at an economic disadvantage FORCED upon them. And it also HIGHLY depends on the area you live in. In bigger cities near the coasts, obviously little racism, but then there are more conservative states etc…

[@tairaabolade6189]

@@dustbusterdude… there are still sundown towns in the US. if you dont know what that means, I’d suggest maybe not to offer anyone your impeccably educated views of racism in america

[@blackachilles8745]

​@@tairaabolade6189 but why would you choose to live there, where people are more discriminative? You can live in LA or NYC where there is litteraly no hate.

[@StephanyFeliciano-qg3to]

I feel like Asian people love me 😂😂😂😂 i went to Chinatown they was waving hello to me

[@franzzhou917]

Let me tell u as a Chinese 3 reason why she is treated nicely, because like she said she is not black black, second she kinda charming, last she speaks Chinese.

[@user-cj9rh9ub7j]

Where do you live

[@Zeno_Perceus]

​@@user-cj9rh9ub7jChina, probably

[@christainmarks106]

She had me at “Obama Black” …lol that comment let me know immediately, shes very much aware of colorism and is under no disillusions whatsoever. Lightskin blk ppl like her and my own complexion for that matter…according to where we are, we are sometimes treated differently than another blk person whos skin is darker.

[@manovrsb]

Us dark skin black treat other dark skin black people like crap that it creates a low self esteem environment that we're not surprised others don't treat us well.

[@krazyxki]

​@@manovrsb People should speak for THEMSELVES and ONLY themselves 😂 dont try to spread that misery to others. When someone is not bitter and insecure, they don't need to live their life that way. I never have 🤷‍♀️

[@aj6365]

She meant culturally she's not from the hood :/ she's not acting ratchet

[@manovrsb]

@krazyxki it's not misery , it's systematic foundation based on preference in society. Indians and other South East Asians have been struggling with this problem for thousands of years before us black people.

[@krazyxki]

@@manovrsb No, personal responsibility comes into play. I've never treated any darkskins badly bc of their complexion, that's a personal decision. Never made any colorist jokes. I have seen BM makes colorist jokes against BW often, ADULT MEN, those are personal decisions. You're right there is colorism in those other communities too, and that is also a personal decision. We are complex beings capable of our own thoughts and feelings, and choosing to treat your own cruelly is a personal decision. Of course oppression has a part in that, I will give some leeway to children (like the many BM who have picked on me as a BW in the YT suburbs) but that's no excuse as an adult that knows better to continue it. They said they are insecure, and I agree, when you treat badly someone with your own complexion, that's massive insecurity. But don't project and ASSume everyone has that mindset. I have never felt the need to be like that and I love my complexion.

[@lolal-t2027]

I saw a video once on a man speaking on the LGBTQ community in japan, and he described at « tolerance, not acceptance » and from what I am hearing, this fits perfectly in this scenario as well

[@gudetama403]

I think you are talking about worldofxtra, his name is stan! He was interviewed by another youtube about it.

[@525sixhundredMinutes]

in Asia colorism is a huge thing. So many whitening products being sold.

[@LowTierSHiFT]

still bad honestly

[@FunnyParadox]

@@LowTierSHiFT Yup but better than being hate crimed lmao also acceptance is getting better and better in Japan (for this exemple)

[@tar9088]

@@FunnyParadoxDo you think asians don't intentionally harm black people due to race?

[@happinessinheart5340]

This girl has not seen the videos of the Chinese men beating up the Africans, especially the men. It is horrible.

[@victoriatran7646]

I'm Vietnamese and I love black people!!! You guys are fierce, strong, so beautiful, smart, resilient, and amazingly cool.

[@prettygorgeous7989]

THANK YOU

[@Adolf_yasser]

​​@@prettygorgeous7989 he was liying get back to work !!!

[@chimpo131]

they don't mind because they are more of a novelty in China vs becoming a non minority😂😂😂

[@weirdmyst7963]

I saw a Viet/Black girl say "I'm Vietnamese and black, Vietnamese ppl are the black ppl of Asians!" And I'll never forget it😂

[@carol6563]

Thank you very much! 😊❤

[@shendelzarescathach1674]

If you speak the language you will get a better experience period.

[@timmychan6282]

But Black people speak the English language and they are still getting the worse experience in the US.

[@kongowetu9648]

that's not true

[@timmychan6282]

@gilfhound69 ummmmm?? I always assume, in China, everyone IS expected to speak Chinese.

[@noripee8278]

If you speak the language you will recognize more racism.

[@6Euphoria6]

​@timmychan6282 that is definitely not true. They dont even exoect ABCs to speak Chinese much less foreigners

[@faucon.t]

"obama black" im dead 😂🤣

[@kawaiipotatoes7888]

First time I heard that term dafuq is that???

[@eldritchbeauty]

@@kawaiipotatoes7888 Perhaps meaning that Obama is biracial, not black. Though because the shadow of the one drop rule is still very prominent in places like America, he's known as being fully black. I'm not sure if she is biracial as well, but she has more "acceptable" features for a black person. Like she said, if she were darker/had less acceptable features, her experience might be different. Hence, she's Obama black.

[@keepgoingfwd]

I wasn't prepared for that either, but I understood her point and I'm glad she touched on it.

[@caspermac]

She didn't make this word up. I've heard Obama Black alot in China. That and Curry Black lol

[@kawaiipotatoes7888]

@@eldritchbeauty I dont think so it maybe non hood black like lebron james son will smith son etc.

[@lady2550]

In the states its imaginary. Unless we wanna talk about all racism.

[@greywaren6034]

People always touch on racism in Asian but never in Europe. My dream was to go to Italy bc everyone thinks it’s so aesthetic but when I got there I was shocked by the outright racism ppl display there. I never experienced that anywhere else

[@dakotastephen2651]

Well when colored people in their country disproportionately commit more crime than their own people can you blame them

[@junkycable3]

a wake up call 😂😂

[@g9n646]

Europe is overrated. Africans should follow suit Asians and Arabs. Remove any Western elements in your countries, let them treat you as partners, not as off world colonies.

[@jackmac436]

Really people never touch on racism in Europe... What rock you been living under

[@florivalentina3400]

What happened

[@trulytart3534]

I spent 3 weeks in China during the summer. I am much darker than she is in the winter time and when I visited I had a very clear tan. I was constantly regarded with disgust. Many thought I was dirty, the tan lines and my palms being my "clean" skin. One of my host mothers consistently checked the bath water in the outdoor barrell after I finished my shower to the point where I am now convinced that she was trying to shame me into washing better. Another host family rubbed the back of my hands before dinner because they thought it was dirt and, later, paint/makeup. No one wanted to sit next to me. I was never barred from anywhere or denied service but I swear I can still feel their stares. I was made fun of for the shape of my nose, the fullness of my lips, and the size and shape of my butt.

[@tiffanybrown1001]

I’m sorry you had this experience. That’s a lot.

[@EbirdOnline]

I lived in China for a few months and I had an extremely similar experience. A woman rubbed my cheek to see if the colour would come off.

[@dryb3301]

That sounds exactly like ignorance rather than hate

[@onegirlmusic]

​@@EbirdOnlinewhat century do they live in 😭

[@JacquelineUnderwood]

This is a lot of what my ex experienced when we were in China. Plus the shaking hands then wiping them or checking if they were dirty and the like. We’re both foreigners but there was a decidedly different way were both treated. L I was kinda treated like a dog - everyone wants to talk to you particularly if they know English, offered help and treats quite often, also treated like I’m dumb quite a bit. He was treated kinda like a rat - ie very few people were treating him how they treated me, most were just tolerating him and keeping an eye on him to make sure he didn’t ruin anything with his existence. It hit him pretty hard some days, because he taught football to some local kids and sometimes they treated him really badly.

[@xelkim9666]

The first black person I met was my math teacher from Nigeria, and he opened up my world. Thank you Mr. M'Pierri🙌

[@lalalopsy5966]

That's not Nigerian name though, lol

[@linkly9272]

@@lalalopsy5966French, English, Portuguese and German names (or just European names in general) are still used somewhat commonly in Africa, with them being introduced primarily due to colonialism.

[@lalalopsy5966]

@@linkly9272 somewhat commonly??? You're saying this bs to a Nigerian who has lived in Nigeria her whole life, in places like Lagos, Ibadan, Anambra, Uyo, and abia state??? Lmfao, I can assure you, other than English names which are VERY common here, you'll hardly see names from other places. I haven't seen ONE. The closest I've come to a different sounding name was a Ghanaian girl so she doesn't even count. Not even on social media, lol😂

[@linkly9272]

@@lalalopsy5966 I don't see how that invalidates what I'm saying, though, considering I'm talking about the continent as a whole. Just because it's a very uncommon surname doesn't mean that a Nigerian person can't have it.

[@lalalopsy5966]

@@linkly9272 you're very confused. Continent? Since when was Nigeria a continent, do you research! 🤦🏽‍♀️ It's the way you're trying to tell a born and bred Nigerian how things are in Nigeria. The ignorance and audacity. Kindly shift 🙄 English is also a problem for you, because I don't remember where I said other culture names don't exist here. Look up the word 'hardly'. It'll do you some good, smh.

[@bobbykite8705]

Way different than my experience in the states. Idk where people get this hate everyone talks about as a black person. Personally never had to deal with it.

[@alikasaranghae]

True I agree hate racism is harsh

[@Citus13]

As a Eastern Coastal Chinese, I can very confidently say most of us are incredibly racist, we’re just equally racist to all.

[@NiRo_90125]

So, prejudice equality?

[@Joao-de9gl]

You're equally racist between a french a vietnamese? I doubt that 😂

[@Yungbull999]

Lol chinese can never be racist to whites yall literally worship them in china .. I’ve been here 5years now

[@hahamasala]

Unless the person is white, I'm sure.

[@Jianju69]

@@Joao-de9gl It's really more about the idea of the Han people being clearly superior to everyone else is basically the air you breathe growing up in China.

[@hal7469]

I once worked with a man from Nigeria who is much darker than her. One day we passed by some Sudanese people on the street and he said they were too black and that their hands had too much contrast between their skin color and palms. That moment made me realize colorism exists within every race.

[@leggyReid4c]

My younger brother who is a shade darker than me hates his complexion but I love it and I tell him all the time. He looks a little Sudanese. I wonder where he got that from.The rest of my siblings don’t have this issue.

[@PoorMansInvesting]

I worked as a bartender. We had a local celebrity (black) and his best friend hang out all the time. One day they started a conversation with a much darker guy and started joking about how dark he was. I could tell the guy was very uncomfortable and unable to really say anything back.

[@saraswatkin9226]

Beauty is in the eye of the Beholder and the intelligence is more important than looks of any colour.

[@Cardistan001]

Yeah, i don’t understand this “i may be dark but at least i aint that dark” mentality

[@edwardjohnson4172]

So so your a colorist

[@kamikiafifmikazuki7020]

Welp as a Japanese it's hell to live there, they literally have sign on the restaurant saying "NO JAPANESE" or along those line

[@gemhunter616]

Well, survivors of WW2 may have operated those stores. Not sure how you would react now.

[@ericbochardt2989]

No blacks also, the racism is not hidden at all

[@XK-1101]

Because of what your countrymen have done during the Pacific War (WW2).

[@pyroneutral]

I mean- can you blame them?

[@kamikiafifmikazuki7020]

@@pyroneutral fair point

[@ernestmoney7800]

There is no large-scale black crime in China. If there were, her experience would be different.

[@natalias5898]

This is exactly the experience my french teacher (from Gabon) told me about. She is darker black and she felt that there wasn't racism in China, just curiosity and ignorance. She met so many people who did not know what was offensive so they asked to make sure she's comfortable, asking like what kind of foods she eats or general questions about her culture. They also asked what her religion was or why her skin was so dark (because they just didn't know!

[@theinvisiblewoman5709]

Asking cultural questions (food, religion, etc etc) isn’t racists though. Asking someone if they wash their skin because it’s black is. What happened is they get a pass because they are perceived as ignorant. I’m sorry but grown ass adults shouldn’t be asking another adult about the concept of melanin… not with the internet at our finger tips… even you are giving them a pass on not being able to think a dark skin person could exist like they never seen a tv show, news broadcast, or could look up people with brown skin. Also if they know who Obama or Beyoncé is then they should have been able to ask the internet why is Beyoncé brown… makes more sense to me. I’ve never asked an adult why they were white or black because it’s one not important and two common sense.

[@u4iadreams]

This is what framing does. The USA is one of the *least* racist and xenophobic countries that has ever existed in the history of the planet. The vast majority of Asiatic countries, especially China, are incredibly racist. It's just not perceived as bad because foreigners don't understand the culture.

[@theinvisiblewoman5709]

@@u4iadreams lol didn’t the Supreme Court in the US have to tell Alabama and Louisiana and Wisconsin that their voting maps are too gerrymandered to the point that black voters won’t get a fair voice? The Supreme Court asked them to redraw the maps fairly. Then the states said “nah we good” 😂🤣 this just happened these last fee months. It’s 2023 and you have openly racist people elected into positions where they actively and openly discriminate. But sure the US is the least racist. Please get off the internet and pick up a book or two. Read the newspaper or something

[@Palicel]

​@@u4iadreamsI totally disagree tho, do u know how many Americans took in black ppl to be slaves ? They didn't allow black and white ppl to ride same bus , cars or live in same house or things, u day that's not much racist?weird.

[@bishop51807]

​​@@theinvisiblewoman5709 I don't think you've read anything they said. I think you just pick the parts that got triggered and responded with your own bias.

[@sugarrrfree]

“Obama black” is something I’ve never heard before.

[@LadyALCO]

right like just say you light skin lol 😂

[@saltyboylecture1267]

I like how it sounds.

[@lemir3559]

She's trying to be privileged and victimized at the same time.

[@b-neil]

from what I was getting, she's trying to say Educated vs Uncivilized

[@treacherousjslither6920]

Obama Black aka Will Smith Black aka Safe Black aka Harmless Black Something about dark skin makes some people unreasonably afraid apparently.

[@UnsungGoat]

I’m a dark skinned black man and once lived and worked in China for almost 3 years. Mostly major cities. My experience was good. I spoke a little of the language as well and in those years was younger, quite fit and handsome. I mostly dressed well as it was a requirement of my job there. Now I’m Wesley Snipes black and didn’t experience any blatant or subtle racism. I’m sure I may have missed some but overall it was a good experience.

[@tomijaya4863]

WOAW THATS IT!!! She speaks the truth… very good point❤❤❤❤

[@bearswithglasses]

But they won't hire her. This is a very tourist/ student experience. Once you start working locally, and it affects your ability to get a job or get paid for that job, the hate vs ignorance starts to matter less and less when the outcomes are similar. I've lived here for 17 years. This isn't representative of the stories I've heard over and over.

[@catenjoyer76]

By "here" do you mean China? Is it hard to get a job as a foreigner?

[@Potato-bv8bx]

Getting a job overseas is hard everywhere

[@bendover9620]

​@catenjoyer76 Real jobs are reserved for the locals. If a foreigner accepts being paid less and is fluent in the dialects, then you might have a chance. It is only the westerners, black or white, that think this is a race issue because they're too privileged to think of anything else.

[@FUnzzies1]

The US doesn't have real racism so...

[@namekiz3199]

because you are a foreigner, this is not America where there are many jobs available. Chinese struggle a lot within their own country so others will never be the first to be looked into

[@ashleyjones312]

I’m glad she pointed out colorism because being darker and not even by much changes treatment lighter skin seems to be more palatable to many racists it’s scary

[@mohammadislam2324]

It’s the other way around in other countries, I’ve know some African countries target albino people because of their skin color and red eyes. Lesson is the majority of the world regardless of race are full of POS

[@deviousj5868]

I get that in the town I live in. Everyone is cooler with a lighter skin friend of mine, and he has higher status and respect while I get things a lot harsher. I get looked down on because out of the two of us who work in bars, I do cleaning, but he bartends. So yeah colorism.

[@blackestknightx8881]

@@deviousj5868 why don't you move to an area where there are more people that look like you??

[@bernarddavis4379]

Darker skinned black folks are treated bad by other black people.

[@johnjungkook2721]

@@blackestknightx8881 who wants to move to the ghetto, lol

[@user-hn3gi8ng2p]

Because she is in Shanghai. Any colors in New York are never discriminated.

[@MrAwombat]

"I assume people have good intentions in China and i assume they have bad intentions in the US "

[@MeowMixatious]

What I heard exactly.

[@pigeonlove]

The other guy said they rubbed his skin to get the "dirt" off.

[@TheTrendkillerx]

Did it work?

[@mehlanie13]

Why does that sound kinda cute?

[@hudamn2297]

And that I wouldn't class as racism. Just absolute pure ignorance from extremely little exposure.

[@robezy0]

They've seen too many laundry detergent commercials

[@pigeonlove]

@@hudamn2297 you must be extremely naïve

[@ZebstrikaGirl]

Koreans were nicer to me because they percieved me as being half korean. When i got a tan in busan that perspective shifted and i had more racist/colorist comments and even behaviors of not wanting to acknowledge the korean i spoke even though they understood me. Ngl it was heart breaking to experience that especially when i dedicated 10 years to learning the language and then attend a korean university, but to those who treated me with such kindness made living in seoul for the time i did worth it.

[@he4rt5]

girl, as a 100% korean raised in full california sun lemme just say that i can 100% confirm it's literally a skin color thing (i mean if i say outright that i'm korean, that's one thing, but they don't know till i explicitly say it, and you can tell the treatment is SO different, it's shameful and embarrassing)

[@qwandary]

@@he4rt5 Sadly colourism is a thing in most of our cultures. :( My sisters Chinese friend would get racism from other Chinese people for allowing herself to tan. They'd think she was a Pilipino servant!

[@forte609]

White skin color is HIGHLY coveted in Korea. There's a reason they are one of the countries that has the most active cosmetic industries.

[@flounder2760]

Say it with me people.. racism is racism no matter your color. You use the word colorism in a serious tone I already know you done drank the stupid juice.

[@R41ph3a7b6]

Yikers, how sad

[@jmonie02]

im black and rarely get this racism these people are taking about.

[@hindurashtra63]

What about Racism by Black People against Asians and White People ? Why don't we talk about that ?

[@Tengri_hallaan]

I actually faced racism in China when I applied for a part time job as an English teacher and I contacted the agent and said I’m from Russia and had my photo as a profile picture where he could see I’m Asian but when we met for a trial class with other applicants for that job and the agent, he was so disappointed in me that I was not white and was sooo rude he literally grabbed my clothes and pushed me away and didn’t let me go to trial class ofc… that was the worst experience of racism in my life. From another Asian. Which is ridiculous and sad.

[@Kpop96]

You must be bad in History class,lolol. You must know even when you also Asian, but Russia and China are always in love-hate neighborhood relationship, also their Government always brainwash their people with lots of untruth stories. So of course, they especially racist to you. To be honest, in China, they mostly racist with Russian, Japanese, Taiwanese, Vietnamese, American, Mongolian (Mongolian and Taiwanese, they still always want these 2 nations belong to their China) For eg, in Vietnam, people tend to cautious about China because they are our neighbor, while still less cautious about USA, eventhough USA also was invader in the past like China. So that, people in Vietnam still have prejudice and extreme cautious for Chinese if they visit VN.

[@thrillking7228]

So I'm guessing these Asian nations more so are looking for "foreigners" to teach English for the aesthetic rather than someone that knows English regardless of what they look like.

[@Shtickyaight]

Wow.

[@user-pq8lz3ip3q]

Language schools in China often have some of the worst managers. They just are unkind to any people they regard as 'inferior' to them, regardless of Chinese or foreigners. Besides, language schools do expect white people as their foreign tutors, cuz market likes white ppl.

[@abigaild7304]

I worked in Korea and they made us brunettes stand in the back and brought the blondes to the front because us brunettes apparently weren't white enough.

[@DrSlipperyFist]

Facts. I spent 3 months in China and the racism i experienced was more people stopping me on the street and wanting to take my picture. Or, if i played basketball outside, a huge crowd would gather. Definitely never felt unsafe. Nothing like Alabama or Mississippi racism.

[@androidnandroid9974]

Is like you're a novelty for them. In my city when new people thia happen sometimes. But later you are the new neighbor and all is almost normal in some time. The same with asian people (I'm in south America).

[@psd.3144]

Mississippi and Alabama don’t feel unsafe at all and people leave you alone…

[@DrSlipperyFist]

@@psd.3144 i definitely didn't miss seeing confederate flags or being called the N-word.

[@techallday8168]

The basketball part is funny 😂

[@flyszx]

That is because you can‘t speak Chinese at all。 if you can read in Chinese， go to any Chinese website or app now， and you will see a comment like “ get those N** out of China。 or Any black guy got arrested video， you will see lots of comments like “Good， that's what they belong”，“ that is the only thing I like about Americans” and “ I wish our police were like American police”

[@ezezcompany]

As long as you can speak the Chinese language, even influentially, your skin color doesn’t matter that much, if not being completely ignored. Essentially, Chinese is a people of culture and language, not appearance.

[@maitreyajambhulkar]

I am lighter in skin to the girl in the video. I look mostly like a Sourhern Greek or Italian or Arab/Hispanic. I don't think Chinese people would have any problem with me. Btw, there is a chinese guy who is my brother-in-law as an extended family member and I am Indian by nationality. We have racism in my country too. All of my ancestors look like Africans but some also look like Arabs and middle wasteners as I have a little bit of Iranian ancestry in me. The girl 's opinions are subjective but I don't think racist people are in high numbers in any country. If there will be, I would be either avoiding them or I would direct confront them for their viewpoint.

[@biellaspointofview2054]

Glad she mentioned the last part. She’s the lighter kind that won’t experience as much as darker kind. I won’t forget how China treated the Africans during COVID, kicked them out the apartments and wouldn’t allow a pregnant woman to the hospital due to a potential outbreak they felt was around the African community. Meanwhile COVID started in their country.

[@CyberMachine]

@@AKu-xs5vg This isn't correct. I was in Kunming, China before it was announced. Police/Military were EVERYWHERE. They were dealing with something but I didn't know what. Then videos started going around on WeChat. There were rumors but those videos would become deleted. It started in China and you're speaking on an inaccurate conspiracy theory.

[@bes03c]

​@@AKu-xs5vgexcept white south Africans, though profiled, were treated quite differently than their darker skinned compatriots. SerpentZA made videos about it.

[@AKu-xs5vg]

@@CyberMachine COVID was in the west as early as June 2019. Greenspring retirement outbreak. The spike protein DNA sequences are also in patents from the year 2016 It's a western bioweapon, everyone knows this

[@HavianEla]

@@AKu-xs5vg*coughCCPPropagandistcough*

[@HavianEla]

@@AKu-xs5vgI’d be curious to know where you learned such blatantly false info, but considering it sounds like you’re trying to defend China - I could care less. The CCP can drop dead, for all I care, and the Chinese people would be all the better for it.

[@xyz7572]

She’s literally the only black person I’ve ever heard who says this. The open racism in China is accepted and brutal.

[@resurgingflame]

So what? How many black people u've seen & met said the opposite? Did u meet ALL of them(like prob more than a million of them who has gone to China)? & it's not like she's travelled to the entirety of China. She literally said "at least in places I've been SO FAR" so her experience is limited as well. I hate when people like u just straight up trying to invalidate someone else experience for the sake of trying to make them wrong by using ur own limited experience. Bcus what's the purpose of this comment? Like yes not all black people experienced the same thing(which she pointed already) but this is her experience & therefore her truth?

[@lakshmikrithika2521]

Yea she also says it’s because she is Obama-black. And also said she doesn’t know what people with darker shades of skin go through.

[@raw5889]

​@@resurgingflamebecause dumbass racism isn't a trivial thing. She doesn't want people to be misled thinking they are safe somewhere they are not.

[@WangYibosElbow]

Because the people saying that are mostly Sinophobic white people lol

[@emmyluvsvbread]

@@resurgingflamethis essay was a bit unwarranted because you both are saying the same thing. She has a limited experience, so does op. I don’t think it’s invalidating her experience, I think they’re just sharing their perspective.

[@Dorothi1267]

Honestly same, racism is bad anyway but I'd rather have someone be racist to me in an uneducated way rather than racist in a hatred way. Im Egyptian, i really love black people ❤ they are kind and strong💗

[@parkwoojin1875]

Having been out east it truly is a perspective thing. Some people prefer that the US is familiar with the concept. Its less jarring in the US and people of different tones dont get stared at.

[@SingularityAdvent]

They will never accept you, just tolerate you, for the convenience of knowing someone different. Get into any trouble and you'll see how fast the back turns.

[@rishikabhardwaj8768]

Exactly lol

[@doggoswampu1450]

You can say the same about any minority in any country lmao. If you saw an Asian person in America whos family has been there for generations vs a French person who has just immigrated, who would you think is more American based on appearances?

[@nvmoondevotee28yrsago48]

@@doggoswampu1450 I’d think someone who looks Indigenous American looks the most “American” 😅

[@doggoswampu1450]

@@nvmoondevotee28yrsago48 And how are the "Most American" individuals treated in America lmao

[@xgamermudkip7154]

Equally, outside maybe 1/100 people who's a shitbag. In China it's 100/100 people will stare. Insult. And exclude you. 🤡🤦

[@oenrob98000]

There's a spectrum of racism everywhere 😢

[@pigeonlove]

Exactly, people are so surprised to realise blacks, Chinese, Arabs all have racists too. Mohammed, for example, said pigs were nonbelievers and Jews that he, himself changed into pigs.

[@ErikPT]

It’s colorism which is wayyy worse

[@sylarrogueII]

White people in the US are discriminated against all the time. Why didn't we have affirmative action in the NBA? I think there are too many black people in the NBA. Lmao. Affirmative action is racist. People can be racist against white people in public, and it's just going to cause those people to become racist. I could go on and on. But what's the point.

[@hulahula6182]

US black folks loot so frequently, of course people are weary

[@enriccabezacapellan]

The most racist people nowadays are the black american people.

[@frostyalaska6371]

Yeah cause china didn't have to deal them and never saw how the majority of them act

[@khaoula2394]

Finally someone talk about it more clearly. Now i understand the difference

[@edwingross9778]

She is keeping it real, l served in the Military and visited on 35 Countries , Racism stands out in the USA mainly because our own Politicians be gaslighting the Race issues in the USA.

[@curtisthomas3598]

The borders are open and the doors work both ways.

[@jasonblizzard9635]

Racism is profitable in the US

[@LA_HA]

​@@curtisthomas3598And so is the issue of tolerance and hate. There are far too many Black Americans that spew hatred towards others out of envy and revenge under the banner of Perceived "hatred" and "intolerance" towards them when people either don't care at all or or don't like them for other reasons. I've seen it. My suggestion is to use that freedom they keep saying they don't have to pack up and leave America. Not just Black people. Anyone of any color. Leave and drop off that signed Citizenship Abandoned form on the way out. Go find a better place elsewhere because all being Here does is make Them And the rest of Us unhappy and unhealthy. Like the movie title says: Get Out. Why stay Anywhere you believe everyone hates you? That's ridiculous. Especially when you're free to leave and find a different place, mindset, and feelings elsewhere. Stop complaining and Leave for a better life

[@nothanks8368]

​@curtisthomas3598 no one should ever have to leave the country they were born in due to prejudice

[@LA_HA]

@@nothanks8368 Who said a Citizen will "have to"?

[@shayscott7498]

I'm American dark skin black and when I was in Beijing in 2017 I was treated like a celebrity. They were very nice to me and all wanted to take pictures. All in all they were intensely curious. I also met alot of people from Asia on various trips and they were also very welcoming. Treated me better than in the US.

[@syruscoy1244]

Sounds like a bot

[@brooklyn560]

🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 bot detected

[@kimmieutsunomiya1457]

@@daggers101I mean it depends. Most of the time it’s not meant to be disrespectful; people are just curious. Especially the children. I believe them when they say that people were eager to help out. Sometimes people in China can be blunt and overstep boundaries when it comes to the photos thing, and that’s obviously not okay. But to say that they’re treating black people like circus freaks is just incorrect. I’d say that’s more telling of what you think of yourself if anything.

[@KanjiEngKorean]

​@@kimmieutsunomiya1457sadly not every American steps out of America to explore different countries

[@shayscott7498]

@@brooklyn560 I was there, not you! I am educated enough, and smart enough to come up with my own conclusion. People like you are always so negative and hateful. Go away troll!

[@gragalakaisel1477]

I'm not even chinese. But all I know is Chinese tend to open up to people as long as you speak their language

[@worksonweekends]

She just defined Curiosity 😂

[@alexiadaniel2443]

Hey, I’m a fellow international student here in Wuhan, China 🇨🇳. I experienced far worse because i’m very dark skinned. Whereas my other friends with more lighter features are treated at the same level as the girl in the video.

[@georgeinjapan6583]

Be aware of this commercial in China that no one there protested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/fXXGc3l5pJ2agbc

[@Kevinthegreaty]

Hey, Daniel. I feel sorry for that as a Chinese. Recently Chinese people are not so friendly to dark skinned people, due to several terrible crimes over young girls committed by Africans who were receiving high-quality living funds in Guangzhou by our gov. Maybe things will be better after some time, after all we used to be very kind to black people. Chinese people do not hate black people in their culture, I think it is some temporary reaction to recent issues. We Chinese are treated badly because of COVID-19, it is the same, right?😂

[@schnozz4301]

​@@Kevinthegreaty Bad treatment against dark skinned people isn't just against black people and didn't start with that issue, my friend is a dark skinned chinese and she faced a lot of bullying because the beauty standard is light skin.

[@Kevinthegreaty]

@@schnozz4301 the beauty standard is light skin, that is right, which is also the beauty standard of most East Asians, but that has nothing to do with discrimination. Chinese people used to treat black people quite well, until recent times.

[@Kevinthegreaty]

@@schnozz4301 And the treatment you said is not because of racism, Chinese people are not polite to even Chinese people who are not their friends. Modern Chinese people are somewhat hostile to others because of the extreme dress from the gov and society, and foreigners may consider it to be racism. But if you are Chinese, you will find you be treated even worse. If you are Chinese, you”ll understand what I am talking about. Chinese people don’t care about race, manu of them only care about whether you are rich, beautiful and competent, and may lack respect to someone who is not, no matter whether he is Chinese or foreigner. This is a big problem in our society, and the most discriminated people are the poor rural Chinese people.

[@aribright2390]

I was in a small city in China with a Ghanaian in the elevator. The school girls inside started gagging and pretending to climb the walls “to escape” from him. Many parents would also refuse their kids being educated by a black man.

[@souldancersbyjennifer]

I'm sorry your friend had that kind of experience

[@izziestevens5835]

@@freeottisExactly that’s just ABSURD! They have their own troubles though, karma will get them with their one child policy effects.

[@justinstewart4889]

Cue the 100 people who will call this "ignorance" and not hate

[@souldancersbyjennifer]

@@izziestevens5835 they are facing their karma with that as we speak

[@huiwang2957]

​@@izziestevens5835你永远不会了解中国的政治成功。比如非洲国家布隆迪，土地很少生育率5.5 最简单的办法就是强制生育率3.0以下，直到生育率2.0再让他们随便生孩子

[@Zalazaar]

Nice propaganda there

[@ellesee3255]

It’s so true, they’re just more curious in Asia vs states it’s “I think I’m better than you”

[@Morcheeseplz1]

In high school I dated a boy who moved to the us from China when he was a young teenager and he said his mom was really racist and wouldn’t like me (I’m a bit darker than the girl I’m the video with much curlier hair). When we met she was quiet but nice to me. Long story short and through many mental health issues that I was the main support for I think she did come around to me in the end and she continued to call me yearrrss after I broke up with her son to talk about her life, personal struggles, family issues, and to ask me to get back with her son. I think she came around but I always think about how strongly he said she was a racist and would be nice to me to my face but deep down would never like me. I think she truly liked me though which makes me think maybe it is more ignorance than straight up hatred like in the us. It’s still a very fine line between the two though imo

[@octane7047]

I think racism is a broad umbrella term to mean "judge someone based on their race". Someone may be racist but not necessarily hate the group of people because it depends on the "judgement" formed. If it's like "this colour = smart/rich" then people generally don't mind too much since the implications are not too bad. If it's like "this colour = physically dirty" (like in this video), then it will be annoying since they come and "clean" others. If it's "this group = dangerous/enemy/robbers/etc." then it's worst since the implications is removal (or at least desire to remove). Also, how strong the judgment is also important. Sometimes it's just a guess based on popular media but can be changed with direct interactions. Sometimes it's dead fixed no matter what they see with their own eyes. So in the case of the old lady, the son may be true in the sense that she has some perceptions about you based on your skin tone. However, the perceptions are probably not that harmful or not very fixed.

[@qwandary]

I dunno, racist people can like people of groups they hate, it's not always as simple as their hatred being equal for every person. My school friend was dating a guy who supported the KKK and her and her family were ok with it. Her family were racist and didn't like 'mixed breed people' aka, people like me. But when I was at their house they were really nice to me. They thought I was polite and a good influence on her. The only sign of awkwardness was her big brother who would just stare at me. I only found out they were racist and supportive of her KKK bf after staying over their house overnight multiple times. And she never understood why it broke my heart because 'they like you, they're nice to your face!' Taught me a strong lesson that these people will sit and have a cup of tea with you and laugh at your jokes. Maybe even genuinely enjoy your time, but would still watch you get murdered, if it came to it.

[@qwandary]

@@octane7047 Sounds like you're talking about discrimination. I'd say discrimination doesn't have to be from hate, but racism is pretty inherently dehumanising and hateful. Discrimination is more likely to be from ignorance imo.

[@ikaru5089]

Maybe she just wasn't racist but ignorant.

[@nmitch5883]

​@@qwandaryMy sister had a similar experience. It's so strange.

[@kerstiny4698]

I could say as Chinese that we most likely are not embracing all races equally at this moment. But you got to understand one thing, many of us haven't seen many non-Asians wandering around anyway. My grandma probably never encountered any black or white people in real life. If she stares at you with her soul, she is not racious. She is just CURIOUS😂

[@MaryamKhan-vf3zo]

Haha... makes sense 😅

[@Amii-dw7jd]

This excuse is getting old. What about the younger people who are still nasty but have seen darker skinned people and have access to the internet. Ignorance is no longer an excuse. It is a choice.

[@angiepang.ie98]

@@Amii-dw7jd we're talking about elderly people who barely know how to use the Internet, let alone access a VPN to receive information outside the controlled Chinese govt media, let's have some perspective here

[@CrisisHipHop]

That's just bs and that excuse is old. Most people's grandparents and parents came from places that didn't have outsiders but when they came to America or anywhere else they didn't run around staring and touching people's hair and saying and asking ignorant things just because they didnt have other kinds of people back home. Let's stop with that very weak excuse.

[@kerstiny4698]

@@Amii-dw7jd Young people do have access to internet and most likely learn about foreigners from TV series, movies, news story and all kinds of media...Do you think that equates to knowing real black/white people in real life? Limited exposure to foreigners is a legit thing in China, it's not like in the US where you get to see all races almost everywhere. We are by and large Asians in bulks😂

[@Luv_julia]

Why would anyone hate such a beautiful human being?! Is having a different skin colour really justifies being rude to someone?

[@shawny4400]

In China, they are less likely to say what they actually think to your face. What they will do is call the company you work for and tell them to not send you back to school because of your skin color. Or your neighbors will call your landlord and tell them they don't want you to live in the building because of your skin color. They do have a class issue with skin color but they also have an issue with stereotypes. You could also watch adverts such as the laundry one in China that would never be allowed in the USA. They literally put a dark man into the washing machine and he comes out white Chinese. It's terrible.

[@jamtaylor1992]

The least racist is still racist

[@PDVism]

sure, but isn't it sad that although viewed differently than locals she doesn't experience the hate and outright racism that she experiences in her OWN ever so Christian country? You know what they call a black citizen in the UK? A Brit. You know what they call a black citizen in Belgium? A Belgian. Only in America does a Black citizen become an African-American. WHY the need to divide in sub groups if not to make an us and them situation.

[@75ur15]

​@@PDVismI would ask you to ask the people that say that why, not all of us, as many times they are using that as a self descriptor. Racism isn't half so bad as people male it iut to be, and until we are honest about what and where it is and actually how bad ...it will never get bettee

[@JoonieJun-nv4yf]

#CaseClosed

[@PDVism]

@@75ur15 To quote you :"Racism isn't half so bad as people male it" In other words you have no clue how bad racism in the USA is in comparison with other countries? Do you have a clue when the last lynching happened and KKK members got convicted for it? Do you have a clue when the last time was that it got publicly known that a blackman was tied to a car and dragged to his death? Do you have a clue how long it took for a duly elected black man in 2020 to be able to do his job as mayor in Alabama? Educate yourself, it will prevent you sounding like a dunce.

[@jaredf6205]

Then you go to Europe and realize their racism is far worse than the US which is full of people who actually work towards ending racism.

[@otimmo]

Dominate on your own land, instead of kowtowing in someone else's.

[@scottmadramenxu]

Very true, Chinese are polite racists😅

[@gbp287]

Yeah right. I am a foreigner in China. I’m guessing her Chinese ain’t that good. Or she doesn’t spend too much time on the Chinese internet. There is plenty of hate. Especially in recent years. Majority of people in big cities like Shanghai know better. But many people, especially older and less educated Chinese people barely see foreigners as human. Especially black foreigners. Wait till you are dating their son. Then see how they react….. Also, I would argue that most racism, no matter the country is born out of ignorance and lack of education.

[@bigmviperplayz253]

Tbf the states aren't that better considering their treatment of "Asians" , immigrants and especially "terrorists".

[@aww7056]

at least racism in china never gets violent. you get a sneer or get ignored at most . they dont throw you in front of a metro, or fiercly push you to the ground or punch you in the face...for no reason ...

[@misshoneynevercame4832]

She's just speaking from her experiences from IRL encounters not what's written online. Keyboard warriors are different IRL. You should know that by now.

[@carlbloch1786]

​@misshoneynevercame4832 you both are right.as a Chinese iwanttosay this land's people have compromised feeling about foreigners. It's not like xenophile or xenophobic. Mostly we don't accept this strange guy .it's just ignorance. But sure in douyin there are many hate blackpeople and jews videoes it's hard to explain why this phenomenon or propaganda happens. I look it as chauvinistic or stupidly extremely patriotic action.

[@anubizz3]

Really? Maybe you should read some KZbin comment abot China... And you will learn how nasty here.... How about this if you want to be respected show some respect to other first, they will change their attitude fast...

[@ziyu8061]

I'm a Chinese. Because of the good security, there is extremely low possibility that you'd receive violence or even stealing from random people in urban areas of China(political oppression is another thing). So they would not do anything terrible just because of your race. But in China people don't feel guilty being racism and there's no law forbidding racism hate speech. If you are a black person and can read Chinese, you might be triggered everyday on internet. it's horrible and I feel really sorry about it. I've lived in Taiwan for 4 years. I think it's quite the same, they won't really do bad things on Thai or Vietnamese but they clearly discriminate against them.

[@kaideee8731]

Same here. Feel sorry for that Internet racism😢😢😢

[@user-rt6ip4kb1i]

tell me a country that is different!

[@ziyu8061]

@@user-rt6ip4kb1i lol repeat calling a black person the N word in public in the US or UK or Canada and see what will happen

[@user-rt6ip4kb1i]

@@ziyu8061 nothing. rappers do that all the times.

[@ziyu8061]

@@user-rt6ip4kb1i they're black

[@flochforster22]

Racism is quite common all over Asia. East Asians even look down on their darker skinned counterparts since a person who may be from Korea would have lighter skin compared to a person from the Philippines. Same in India, where fair skinned Indians look down on dark skinned Indians. East Asia, South Asia, Middle East….most of these places are incredibly xenophobic and racist. The racism doesn’t originate from hatred, they just look down on darker toned people. Asian culture is very hierarchical so everyone wants to look down on others here.

[@bb4251]

I'm an Asian American and the xenophobia and racism on asian social media is appalling. Even as an Asian in the US, most of my East Asian friends tended to look down on south asians (Indians) and other races. Whenever I'm on the Southeast Asian, East Asian side of the internet (in Asia), people say slurs after slurs to people from other countries. In the case of Thailand and Cambodia, racism primarily originates over hatred. The countries hate each other over petty conflicts over culture (who invented what first) and a bunch of stupid nationalism.

[@eklim2034]

Uighur: "hmmmm"

[@terrencemilton5088]

I knew chinese Vietnamese and Koreans. They're not racist in a sense where they try to do things to you. They racist in a sense when they just talk s***. Like some of them think we are lazy. Some of them believe all the stereotypes. And now I know filipino people know. For the most part they're cool. I get along with them the ones from thier original country. Understand

[@aeoligarlic4024]

Even worse, singaporeans

[@LordBathtub]

Tell that to the numerous different instances of ethnic cleansing happening in Asia (Uyghers in China and the Rohinga in Myanmar for a start) and then come back and tell me Asians arent racist 😂

[@qiurami5208]

​@@LordBathtubyou are nuts

[@misiek_xp4886]

​@@LordBathtub It isn't foult of Asia, but communism/ totalitarism.

[@user-nq1ll6yw4q]

Not like the blacks in America, they always try to hurt people. I had the same experience in Asia, nice people.

[@einzelganger5290]

When she said that they won't follow her around in the store and see if she's trying to steal something, all I could think of is "Hurry up and buy!" 😂😂😂 If you know, you know.

[@Astronomica999]

The movie with the Wayans Brothers?😂

[@kobiecamp1134]

Reminds me of "Menace 2 Society" when Caine, and O-Dog were in that store getting into it with the Asian store employees.

[@nitrocatofficial6939]

I thought exact same thing!!

[@classicghostrider2715]

I thought of the family guy bit where the Asian dude is doing stand up.😂 All of you stay out my store, I remember you face!

[@dewaynerichardson5895]

​@@Astronomica999 something they actually say on the regular

[@blacksnapper7684]

L country L views on racism

[@Crusader20000]

When was the last time you heard anyone threaten a black person....who wasn't black.

[@ucheogwude2516]

This is so sad. No version of racism is "okay".

[@spectre9340]

Ngl it's kind of like a "yeah it's still bad but not _as bad_ as the other kind" Like, as an Asian person, being called a "ch*nk" or "dog-eater" is the least of my troubles when I know it could be way worse, especially with how people treated Asian folks during COVID. Plus, I got my own corrupt government to deal with so I can't be too bothered with other people's racism towards me 😂

[@Shosholegbt]

*huh annoying. Get a life. Hate will never stop and it will always be okay. If people hates on you, do better. I experience so much racism and I still know it’s because I’m not doing enough. I don’t blame others. I take it from granted ? No no, I try my best.*

[@gypsygypsy2551]

No, its very much considered okay to be racist to whites

[@ForteFaiey]

​@@ShosholegbtHow evil...

[@ForteFaiey]

​@@ShosholegbtWhat did you even mean...

[@mimi123b]

I’m black and dated a born and raised chinese guy who was not racist. We had conversations about our differences and he listened when i expressed to him what I go through as a black woman. You can not generalize a whole race of people.

[@pumpkinwarrior7138]

I mean tbh sometimes you gotta generalize but it never means every single person of that group

[@Mahdiya_.]

She didnt generalise tho. She said that this is her experience and that other peoples experience will be different

[@gostavoadolfos2023]

Fun fact Aladin story is Chinese and not arabic, it was added by the french to book arabic nights (the name is not accurate though) in the story the evil sorcerer kidnaps the princess and run to Africa! In Chinese imagination Africa is so distant and foreign which explains not justify the racism there. Also the french edited out the anti heavy and extrem anti black racism from the same book! As an Arab I was shocked when I read the book for the 1st time when I was a kid, also I realized that my ancestors were haunted by cheating wives 😂 which is the most common theme in the stories.

[@HelloPpl831]

Aren't you generalizing too

[@rulie]

She didn’t generalise tho lol. Sounds like you just wanted to share your experience - which is fine - but the last sentence wasn’t necessary because, again, she didn’t generalise. All she did was talk about her experience, where she literally mentioned isn’t even a shared experience. Also, on the topic of generalisation, your experience does not necessarily mirror everyone else’s. It’s not a generalisation when it’s your experience, but when it’s her experience - it is? 😂

[@DDD20001]

It's sad to hear a black person telling and comparing which racism is tolerable in two different countries, and she seems to have acquiescently accepted and put up with it when both countries shouldn't have made her experience that in the first place.

[@patriciaboateng9675]

This comment perfectly sums up the heartbreak I felt while listening to her response.☝🏾🙇🏾‍♀️

[@Fx_Explains]

​@@patriciaboateng9675 it's impossible for everyone to love, deal with it. Not everyone likes Asian or whites in Africa too, or other places. Find those who are whiling to respect you and respect them back and be their friends and those who don't want to respect you, respectful leave them be and enjoy your life.

[@sharissaw.]

Your comment exactly racism =racism no matter where you are in the world 🇺🇸💯💅🏿💃🏽 Atlanta

[@jerrygraves6531]

​@patriciaboateng9675 she's a bedwench for Asians what do you expect?😅

[@jerrygraves6531]

​@@Fx_Explainsshut up

[@alisondorantes-garcia5751]

There is racism everywhere in the world, unfortunately. Even within similar "ethnic" groups. Like, when I went to college I had no idea how biased against Koreans my Chinese roommates were, and how Taiwanese people were biased against Chinese, etc etc. I think it manifests differently when there is a perceived competition for resources/ financial dominance. I'm sure if she tried to buy a house in China or date in China, her experience would be different and maybe more negative.

[@leggyReid4c]

Exactly, that’s what racism is really about. Competition for resources and financial dominance 💯

[@uiop2520]

So true

[@chillchinna4164]

To be fair, the Taiwanese folks have solid ongoing reasons to be biased towards west Taiwanese people.

[@alisondorantes-garcia5751]

@@chillchinna4164 True, I realized I came across as ignorant. China's history of imperialism should be taken into account.

[@Naldito15]

For sure the Chinese take into account that she appreciates the language and culture so much that she actually learned a complicated language in order to interact with the Chinese..

[@JACpotatos]

Pretty sure she's getting paid or something to say this stuff. A lot of Chinese are extremely rude to anyone that's not Chinese, and the Chinese people are pretty racist if we're being honest.

[@sirllamaiii9708]

"Chinese is the hardest language to learn according to normies who have never tried to learn it. In reality, Chinese is really easy. It has literally no complex morphology: no tense, plurals, gender. It doesn't have irregular verbs or nouns because it has no verb and noun endings whatsoever. It's almost difficult to explain how easy Chinese is." - Luke Smith

[@spFOX-pz3fx]

I’m sure they appreciate that, but it’s not gonna change their personal bias.

[@Andreas-gh6is]

@@sirllamaiii9708 all of that simplicity actually makes it hard. You can't even tell if a word is a verb, noun or anything else, except if you not only recognize the verb and recognized all preceding words in a sentence. The isolating structure combined with lack of redundancy makes listening comprehension tough as nails. And especially for specialized vocabulary, you have to learn at least one new character for every term you need...

[@rinnzu]

@@Andreas-gh6is and thqats exactly why mandarin is the toughest language in the world

[@LazyboyZZZyobyzaL]

i mean what area in the states do they live in? no normal person would see a black person and want to kill or harm them. in fact i would argue that there are more people afraid of black than the other way round.

[@becurious2000]

I have a black friend who was very dark. He moved to Cambodia as a missionary and learned their language. He said the racism there was worse than in the states because of a superstition there that evil spirits are dark. I don’t know if this is true but that’s what he says was his experience. I wonder if anyone else had a similar experience. I never been to Cambodia but I have been to Vietnam. I know I saw many Vietnamese be prejudice to the Cambodians. 😢

[@user-783hhss7w2oifhe]

That's literally what she said. Asian racism is mostly because of ignorance. In the US is purely based on hatred for anyone that's not white. That's why the US racism is technically worse

[@matthieulagardere3886]

Thai , Laos and Viet hate Cambodians, from the khmer empire to the Pol Pot era they mess up all the area. And they are a bit like English or Aussies , where there are Cambodians in a party , you can be pretty sure that it will finish with drunken fighting guys

[@ZON3.]

This isn’t true at all. My dad is khmer and his whole family is just called ah kmao cuz they were farmers and there skin is darker. Theres a lot of Cambodians with really dark skin. They probably didn’t like him because he was coming in a bhudist area trying to convert people to Christianity.

[@matthieulagardere3886]

@@ZON3. How much I hate monothéist religion, trying to convert all the world because they think they know the truth better than anyone else, polytheists don't try to convert others and respect all religions because "truth" doesn't exist, it's just your only own private perception of the world.

[@Drownedinblood]

In the us black people get shot or beaten up by cops...

[@himehime1629]

Love how people in the comments take this as fact when it’s just her experience

[@AKu-xs5vg]

It's my experience too, and I've heard the same from many Black/dark skinned people

[@johnjungkook2721]

it's my experience as well, though. It's usually darker-skinned black people trying to control the narrative and say she's lying, just because she's treated better than them and they can't accept it.

[@Lunxrrr]

I’ve never been to China before, but as an African American I totally get what she’s saying. I’ve experienced my fair share of racism, and it really is scary to know that there are people out there that hate you to the point that they want you harmed/killed, just because of your looks. I’d much rather prefer the ignorance she describes.

[@carlojamelle3431]

It's quite rare to experience hate in China (in my experience anyway)--I can only recall two overt experiences over the past 20 years). I just got back from a 2 mouth trip. The only 2 things that irritated (aside from the air pollution and cigarette smoke), was people saying that I couldn't be from America because of my skin color (some people didn't even know what the letters USA stood for!) and or trying to school me in regards to something concerning Chinese culture in a way I found condescending. Other than that, people generally rolled out the red carpet. I was taken out to dinner, given free stuff, one guy even paid for my hotel room after I missed train chatting with him. At a wine ship, the lady always insisted on giving me a higher quality wine for the price of the cheaper one. I could go on and on. I was walking down a dark street in the the middle of the night and the police didn't even bat an eye. They normally just wave. That's kind of unreal for black Americans. Same in Taiwan. I even told some cops to keep the nice down when they were chatting on the metro. They were like, "Sure!" Felt like a video game character unlocking new powers. 😄

[@uuuuuiiioo]

I’m Korean who live in the US, and based on my experience living in the two opposite sides of the world, I can kinda relate to what she said. This can apply to Korea and Japan as well. East Asian countries are still homogenous with more than 90% of the people there being ethnically the same. The concept of racism is relatively new in these countries, and there are tons of other (older) problems in the society that date back to ancient times before they knew that different races even existed. They have heard that there was racial slavery in the West, but it’s not something they had a first-hand experience with. Hence the less hate. Also the culture is very different. In East Asia they generally care more about how other people perceive them or what affects their reputation in the community. These are hyper-surveillance societies, both literally and metaphorically, and therefore there is less public violence/hate. China especially is under the strict control of the socialist regime, which deters people from acting without thinking about the consequences. The fact that she can speak the language could also help though… Plus she is very pretty. China and Korea are both kinda lookist countries.

[@sarang-archer]

Also korean-american, can agree that I'm intimidated by the idea of visiting SK and not actually knowing korean 🥲 I look fully korean but I'm scared I will be harassed for not knowing my mother language

[@Sarah_Moon]

​@sarang-archer you might get questions in Korean because they assume you speak Korean. But they'll soon realize you don't speak Korean natively, and if they can speak in English! it'll be okay😊 I'm Korean and although I've seen my foreign friends go through interesting situations, in most situations it wasn't from a place of hate

[@damackabet.4611]

Their wasnt racial slavery in usa, it just happened to be majority black slaves because blacks in africa were full of slavers, who sold other blacks for cheap to europeans. Their were a few non black slaves, and if you count indentured servitude their was tons of whites. Their were also around 10% of blacks who were free when the civil war occurred with them being in both north and south. Their was also black slave owners in usa, it wasnt impossible to be a free black with slaves in south it was just rare.

[@rhoneawilliams5019]

Please watch the video from JustNolu. She’s an African KZbinr and she was a kindergarten teacher in China. Her boss in China punched her, shoved her, and chased her. Of course, not all Chinese people are like her manager and there are some non-Black foreigners who are also mistreated in China. But Nolu’s mistreatment seems to be most prevalent among darker skinned more ethnic-looking Blacks. Nolu’s horrific experience doesn’t sound much better than racism suffered by Blacks in America. Worse is that the school she worked for covered it up.

[@jchan9761]

She is one anecdote but I would not be surprised that lighter skinned Black people are treated better in China. It’s the same in the US.

[@BoHorn]

No no no, we must hate our country and others are better. American ppl either feed on their pride or shame themselves without reason, its insane.

[@MNcoquicoqui]

I just saw a video of a white male Chinese youtuber brought his black female "friend " and his father (again all on video) treated that girl like 💩. Then the poor girl is taken to the airport due to the bad experience. Girl says "please hug me" and he (youtuber) kept saying "bye, go". Again....all on video. She's lucky the girl interviewed hasn't had a bad experience. The fact she can understand and speak the language IS HER ADVANTAGE. If she didn't, she would have been treated like dirt. She will change her tune once she has a very negative and traumatic experience.

[@sk8ermGs]

@@MNcoquicoquiit’s hilarious how dumb people are to really think Americans are more racist than the Chinese, it’s actually tooo funny

[@justinwinterstein]

racism is the dark part of human nature. It exists everywhere. Unfortunately.

[@aeiou5136]

Racism in East Asia rarely gets physical. Talk about how unsafe my Indian friend felt in the States versus when she took a trip to Korea. Sure they could have talked behind the friend about her skin color and looks, but she was never in-the-face assaulted.