Radio Westeros E37 War of the Five Kings, pt 3

[@ASlapOfAFish]

I've read all the books up to ADWD like 10 times, and yet your podcast always teaches me something new about the books. Whether it was something I overlooked or something i missed completely or even not being smart enough to pick up on some of the finer details, you's always have my back. And for that i thank you. I have been listening to your podcast since the beginning and i haven't regretted it since....

[@RadioWesteros]

Thank you so much! We're so glad to have you listening and engaging all this time :)

[@crystalmitchell4770]

That “battle of fire” episode is the BEST ASOIAF podcast/KZbin ever made by anyone! Go listen to it now! Absolutely thrilling! Love your work radio Westeros I wish you all the credit you deserve as a team

[@RadioWesteros]

Thanks for the kind words Crystal ;)

[@Reptilia222]

Radio Westeros patiently awaiting a Battle of Ice vid after the hype from this one!

[@vanessabogaert2104]

I think Jamie’s attitude towards Sybell Westerling is more disgust, not indifference. He feels they got what they deserved for their deception.

[@RileySH]

Found your channel accidentally...now I became a great fan :) Keep up the great work! :)

[@brandonblackfyre5783]

Can't wait for the winds of winter primer !!! Really looking forward to it

[@UAPReportingCenter]

Amazing series!! Always!

[@jimmybones4299]

Superb as always. Well done guys.

[@marky1846]

ive listened to all 3 episodes today... what have i become?

[@RadioWesteros]

That's great to hear! We hope you enjoyed the triple-bill!

[@marky1846]

@@RadioWesteros sure did! amazing work.. feel like i just read the books again.

[@agwooding1]

Another great video guys and I love the sound of your video setting us up for The Winds of Winter ;)

[@RadioWesteros]

thanks, expect the series later in the year -yb

[@ViolentMessiah666]

Yes! Always a good day when Radio Westeros drops a new episode, still the best radio station this side of Asshai. Really enjoyed this mini-series on WoT5K, just re-listened to part 2 a coupla days ago. Keep up the amazing work 😀

[@RadioWesteros]

Thanks! Hope you enjoy part 3 :)

[@Reptilia222]

So much Stannis hype!

[@jackkellyattorneyatlaw8921]

Absolutely pumped for that Feast review

[@kevinmoore4237]

Great idea on TWoW Primer!

[@RadioWesteros]

Thank you! We're looking forward to it :)

[@doktorcool3740]

Yes!! It's been a while and it will help a lot (short of re-reading these books :-) to get a reminder of where everybody is and what happened to them lately.

[@whereuwannabe7796]

Great work! Thank you!

[@osirisgem]

It ate at me for too damn long before I was able to make the time for this... DAMN YOU LIFE!!!!! Thanks again you guys. PS if you guys need a toil grunt to help out with anything I am always super happy to help. Let me know and I can give you an idea of my skill set and abilities, all free of charge, naturally.

[@UAPReportingCenter]

You guys rock!

[@guineveregreenstones9977]

Thanks

[@alysaneblackwood]

Made my day guys been looking forward to this one for weeks!

[@RadioWesteros]

hope you enjoy it!

[@alysaneblackwood]

Radio Westeros always! I adore your format originality, fandom inclusions and deep focused analysis on topics. I've reffered my daughter as a first time Thrones reader, to help her understand characters and events more clearly.

[@RadioWesteros]

I hope your daughter likes the podcast and thanks for spreading the word -yb

[@undacoval3rotha]

Yeeeessss this is exactly what i needed!

[@RadioWesteros]

enjoy!

[@jasonbourne1218]

Man.....it's about time....the only bad thing is....I'll have to wait another month for analysis :(

[@baronessvondengler]

Excellent episode, though I miss the fake advertisements.

[@RadioWesteros]

they will be back!

[@curtiscrowe5718]

KZbin is slipping, I didn't get a notification?

[@jasonbourne1218]

Is the War of the Five Kings series done or will there be one more episode?

[@RadioWesteros]

it's done ... but we'll be doing a twow primer to continue with some aspects going forward.

[@the_amazing_jedi4734]

Still searching for part one^^ did you upload it with a different name?

[@RadioWesteros]

kzbin.info?o=U&video_id=nkUlfY4x3kU

[@lorenzomedicci8470]

The over simplification of the Freys actions is not fair. Walder Frey agreed to terms and Robb accepted giving him his word as a king. Walder lost his eldest son fighting for Robb, thousands of soldiers in the war, went against the sitting king (treason), lots of gold from his war chest and risked destroying his family since Freys fought on both sides of the war. Then all of a sudden this boy king breaks his word and honor to save the honor of a girl born to a house which he is fighting against. The boy king makes things worse by losing the war e.g battle of Duskendale where he lost 1/3 of his army & the Greyjoys took his Castle (Winterfell). What options did Walder have when Tywin & Roose approached him? Was he going to go against them for the liar king who can't keep his word? IMO the Freys had a valid reason for what they did in that context. If Robb can't keep his word then why should Walder? The Starks aren't the good guys they are just the main POV characters.

[@RadioWesteros]

Interestingly, the examples you cite were the result of other acts of treachery (Bolton & Greyjoy) and not directly attributable to Robb's leadership. Over the series we made the case that the roots of Bolton's treachery stretch as far back as the engagement at the Green Fork and are motivated by personal ambition and a history of conflict between House Stark and House Bolton. At the same time, the breach of contract with House Frey does not excuse the breaking of guest right, which is a sacred law that is one of the foundations of Westerosi culture. As we said in the episode failures of leadership in Robb's reign and military campaign in no way accounted for the complete abandonment of honor and rules of military engagement by the principal actors in the Red Wedding (that is House Bolton and Frey) both of whom were sworn to House Stark and had no legitimate justification for the extremes to which they sunk. Sure Walder Frey would have been justified in withdrawing his support, and refusing to negotiate the Crossing. The Lannisters would have had to be content with Robb trapped in the Riverlands where they could encircle him and finish him off in honorable battle. There are shades of gray everywhere in this series, but the dishonor of Walder Frey's "ugly chicken" as Tyrion calls it, is his alone to own. -LG