The Surprising Factors in Nate Singer’s Recovery from ME/CFS

[@Joan-COYI]

Raelan. Thanks for your bravery, your persistence, and for your care for the very best reasons. You are appreciated.

[@becoming_a_betty]

What a great, inspiring interview 😊 Thank you both so much. Nate is such a joy, i could listen to him speak all day! xx

[@AnrupB]

I just had the SAME THOUGHT watching “Friends” haha! Social connection is so important for health though, we just don’t talk about it enough! ❤ IFS is awesome too! Just did a session recently and my mind is blown!! Awesome interview.

[@jelenaniess4201]

Thank you for this beautiful and profound interiew ❤

[@Gina-jb3cg]

Another very enjoyable and thoughtful provoking recovery story. It seems to me that a lot of recovery interviews are with people without children. I have seen a few here and there but not many.That makes sense as child rearing can be an assault on the nervous system! I'd love to hear some stories from people who have the primary, or very significant care of children. Thanks Raelan for all you've done to encourage me through your beautiful open attitude which you bring every time. 🙏🏼

[@beingvandoan]

Very helpful and makes sense. Thank you. My friend and I have been experiencing this for a while and both of us came out of narcissistic abuse and so we’re always hyper vigilant even when we’ve gotten out of it. So now we’re going to figure out ways to feel safer within ourselves.

[@spruceysarah]

What a wonderful interview. It was such a relief to hear you say you've been sick a lot since recovering and everything has worked out okay. The biggest fear I've been working on in recovery is getting sick again; illness has set me back a few times so I'm happy to hear that it can get better over time. Also, I sort of accidentally happened upon a similar music strategy! When I had very severe symptoms I listened to "comfort music" -- i.e., some of my favorite songs -- as much as I could tolerate. I found when I started feeling better and tried to listen to those songs again I had an aversion to them, which was really dissapointing. In my most recent setback I realized I could reverse the same concept to help -- I picked new music that I wouldn't normally listen to but liked well enough and played it when I did relaxing activities. Then when I worked on challanges to increase resilience I would listen to the same music and it definitely helped me tune into a sense of calm. Over time I didn't need the new comfort music anymore and now I can just leave those songs in the past with gratitude so I don't need to be reminded of those struggles all the time.

[@NateSinger39]

So interesting and cool that you stumbled on the musical effect too! I think with each setback I had the hole was shallower and I felt like I had more tools to get myself outta there. Good luck with your recovery :)

[@spruceysarah]

@@NateSinger39 Thank you 💚

[@mirandaandrea8215]

What a great guy! Loved listening to him!!!! He nailed it our systems are freaked out!!! He put it into perspective!!

[@mellow8969]

So good. Thanks to both of you!

[@saralewismurre2134]

Great job, both of you! Very inspiring!

[@heilam1954]

Thanks again for another great interview ❤

[@nolamayer4101]

Brilliant interview, so much to take in ,I’m sure I will listen to it several times. Time and time again we hear people talking about fear and I think our body gets so used to living in a state of fear that it becomes the “norm”. It’s only when one really looks at all of your life do you come to a better understanding of the why and how of this condition. Wishing you much happiness Nate, thank you for sharing your story and being so honest 🥰

[@hanspeter5372]

thank you so much for sharing these interviews with the world!

[@elsdon8256]

"having the flu without having the flu" that was my line for 4 years long covid. Fortunately not so much now :) well done raelans channel :)

[@northernflicker1111]

What has helped the most?

[@Smilingeyes523]

There are KZbin videos on trauma release exercises/tension release exercise exercises.

[@NateSinger39]

Yes! Plenty of instructional videos and then the creator of TRE - David Berceli - has a youtube channel with lots of filmed sessions that are fascinating to watch

[@LiseBenson]

Raelan’s course explains it so, so well. Amazing listening to Nate right now, loving this…

[@lydiabydia2001]

Fantastic interview. So many gems in this one. Thank you so much!!

[@donnaodonoghue6058]

This I totally feel and understand.

[@Cindyscrossstitch]

This information needs to get out to the masses✨️🌻love these success stories😊

[@RaelanAgle]

Yes! Thank you, Cindy ❤️ ❤️

[@ellemeno0]

I enjoyed listening to this. It is interesting what stars align for people as far as life circumstance to be able to resource their healing or have supportive people in their lives. My financial and social reality has been very stagnant for a long while now I'm not seeing much possibility but I am coping ok. Do you have interviews of people who are heds (hypermobile elhers danlos) and what recovery turns out to look like for them as far as co-morids and symptoms such as fatigue and pem?

[@damiantow]

Worth looking into Jessica Eccles work at University of Sussex on hyper mobility and link to anxiety CFS long Covid

[@Lozzy-h6m]

Junior used to try confuse his subconscious too, like if he felt dizzy he would spin to try teach his brain he wasn’t scared

[@kim-ys2fs]

to date, i have found IRL socialising makes me worse for the most part. I was bullied alot from age 4 (1986) until i was isolated in 2014, I rejected alot incl by family and thus have alot of negative connotations. Instead, the first time i felt i truly blossomed re socialising, was playing a world of warcraft copy-cat game in my 20's So what im doing is using VR to desensitize myself to those old fears and triggers and hopefully ill recreate my own sense of community again n regain my social confidence (i had to quit gaming at the start of the MECFS experience as i couldnt understand language alot of the time)

[@NateSinger39]

Sorry that happened to you Kim. It's so so challenging when we don't feel safe with other people but need other people to feel safe. I'm glad you're aware of it and moving forward :)

[@kim-ys2fs]

@@NateSinger39 thanks, its a stepping stone between where ive been n where im going, whereby since xmas, iv noticed im becoming less rigid, serious, and defensive, more playful and joyous n i swear i havent laughed so much in years. i found this vid of yours insightful re the socialising/community, (esp as iv never felt i truly 'belonged'), i didnt realise its what we need for us and our systems to feel safer -gave me more inspiration n dedication to overcome this aspect, thankyou!

[@donnaodonoghue6058]

I've been asking people around me to just be nice. I'm extremely triggered by the tiniest bit of anger, loudness or nastiness. I've been trying not to let this bother me. I've not hit the spot yet.

[@tanyawieczorek6603]

I'm the same way.. but I'm Asperger's.. Any chance you're on the spectrum/ASD?

[@donnaodonoghue6058]

@@tanyawieczorek6603 yes adhd probably asd.

[@rupinderh01]

Same ❤

[@kim-ys2fs]

it's not just enough to ask people to be nice, they need to have the understanding of why they need to be nicer, so you can have that healing environment thats needed. If they fail to understand, or refuse to be considerate, you need to be 'selfish', this is one of the ways which is meant by 'prioritise your healing' and you may have to remove them from your life at least until you have recovered. It maybe that like me, you've been surrounded by toxic people (i didnt realise until last winter, year 9 of MECFS journey, aged 41), who iv now cut out of my life for good. I did a quick deep-dive into dr ramani's 9 different types of narcissism vid that sent me down the rabbit-hole -might be of use if you have doubts about the people around you, 'victims' get gaslit into thinking they are at fault, selfish etc. It's a good idea to be educated about narcs regardless (fore-warned, fore-armed) People who dont/wont stop being angry, loud or nasty around you are the ones being selfish and self-absorbed. If they cant/wont adapt to your needs (these are not wants, but needs), you cant have them around you for now and you'll need to do the hard task of communicating that to them, not easy, but oh my universe it is so worth it. 1st eliminate triggers, minimise symptoms (inc exposure to such people) 2nd calm n repair nervous system, learn boundries, assertiveness etc if like me youve had a lack of them. 3rd social desensitising/reintegration, bringing back people you couldnt cope with, who were genuinely unable to understand. 4th navigate new/better responses to toxic people you will meet in realworld with full reintegration and full remission. Some folk cant change overnight, like my mum, so i kept her at a 1/month+ distance vrs every week n spoke more to step-dad who didnt trigger me. Mum rushes around ALOT and 'time stress' is one of my other big triggers XD Im also thinking about your (telling) word choices; "ive been ASKING people.." nah, you need to be TELLING/INFORMING them 'i need 'x', or we cannot interact until i recover fully, because 'y'' -you arent asking permission, you are stating a need, a boundary of yours, which they need to respect and you need to protect. These are lessons it took me years to learn and im sorry if the way ive written ruffles your feathers in some way. PLEASE look beyond my writing style to the content. I had self-respect issues, saying no, no boundries, permission-seeking, lack of assertiveness etc and i saw potential reflections of this in your comment

[@alexandrecouture2462]

Have a great 2025!

[@TimMurphy41]

Spoiler: His program costs $600/mn. These guests have the cure, but only for the 1% lucky enough to have money without being able to work.

[@davemack2456]

they are not all $600 per month

[@AnneAlready]

These guests don't necessarily have "the cure" because their own recoveries came about from a mix of modalities including many available for free (to you too!) online. What they are offering is support or coaching in small groups for those who want to pay for that, but in many or most cases they did not actually have small group coaching themselves. Claim your power....and best of good management (not luck!) to you. :)

[@idasje]

A question for Nate: am really wondering why would you move from the safe community in Panama and now living in Mexico. Knowing and learning this is what you missed and needed al your life…

[@NateSinger39]

Thanks for that question; it's a really thoughtful one. Two families were the backbone of my lil community that I enjoyed so much and both moved away over the course of a couple of months and then Panama just didn't feel like home anymore. There's a quote that I really like that goes "We live in houses made of each other."

[@roonbooks3227]

Vitamin D?

[@Joan-COYI]

We live in houses made of each other. That’s so true. Thank you 💕

[@dommccaffry3802]

Possibly very good. But several months at 600 dollars a month not even vaguely possible

[@RaelanAgle]

There are over 200 free recovery stories on this channel, plus more on KZbin to listen to and learn from, along with free books, free courses, and welcoming, supportive communities-an abundance of help, kindness, and support. All of this can make a significant difference in any recovery journey. Thank you for pointing that out.

[@NateSinger39]

Hey Don - I totally hear that and for most of us the medical expenses have piled up quite a bit as well. The good news, as Raelan mentions here also, is that there is a tremendous amount of free resources out there. And in so many recovery stories, people go through lots of stuff that is expensive and doesn't help a whole lot and then find a resource or practice that helps a lot and is either free or pretty inexpensive. One great place to look is the Polyvagal Institute, who do lots of free group classes that include both nervous system education and practices that help to regulate. Good luck :)

[@dommccaffry3802]

​@@NateSinger39thanks nate for your kind reply, im 66 now and have tried practically everything over the last 45 years. It was interesting what you said re meditation ; i have done a shitload of meditation over the years , and i have to be honest, its really not helped. I am very interested in TRE berceli, i tried to learn it from his book 10 years ago but had some extremely scary stuff come , and without somebody to advise me , i stopped. In retrospect it was obviously trauma . Maybe i'll just go back to smoking a little weed. At least it improves the quality of my life in a tangible way. Wishing you a happy new year.

[@dommccaffry3802]

​@@NateSinger39thanks nate. I have tried almost everything in the last 45 years including all free resources. It was interesting your comments re meditation , which mirrors my own experience exactly. I did try TRE 10 years ago which i tried to learn from david bercelis book, i also at the same time had a terrifying psychological and physical breakdown. In retrospect, i now think it was trauma coming up, but without guidance i did not know that at the time, and went back into freeze again. I am at the point now where i may go back to smoking a little weed again ; as it at least gives a tangible improvement in my quality of life. Wishing you a happy new year.

[@dommccaffry3802]

​​@@NateSinger39thanks nate. I am 66 now, and got ill when i was 20, so as you can imagine i have tried most things, free or otherwise. Meditation does not work for me either. I tried TRE 10 years ago from the book and had a complete and terrifying breakdown, which in hindsight was trauma coming up; so i am interested in it. Failing that i may go back to smoking a little weed, as at least i get a bit of relief. Happy new year. .

[@laurencem6448]

Cela ressemble à de l autohypnose.