OSMO POLYX OIL Vs OLI NATURA - Which Is The Best?

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Rag 'n' Bone Brown

Rag 'n' Bone Brown

2 жыл бұрын

In this video I put two hard wax oil wood finishes to the test - Osmo Polyx-Oil Vs Oli Natura Hard Wax Oil from Germany - which happens to be the cheapest hard wax oil available on Amazon. I test out their appearance, ease of application, drying and cure time, stain resistance and value for money.
Oli Natura Hard Wax Oil Clear Satin 1l geni.us/nAdR
Osmo Polyx-Oil Clear Matt 750ml geni.us/k0sqawA 2.5l geni.us/L3mP
Osmo Polyx-Oil Clear Semi-Matt 750ml geni.us/CP5E8 2.5l geni.us/CBDy
Osmo Polyx-Oil Clear Satin 750ml geni.us/Y5di 2.5l geni.us/Yz4m6oN
Osmo Polyx-Oil Clear Gloss 750ml geni.us/3abh6rs 2.5l geni.us/tJBA5V
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1. Price per litre source: camelcamelcamel.com - average product prices on Amazon over the past year
2. It came to my attention after shooting this video that there is also a product by Osmo called Osmo Polyx-Oil Rapid which has a slightly faster drying time of 4-5 hours under good ventiliation. However, this product still takes 2-3 weeks to fully cure
3. The Osmo Polyx-Oil featured in this video was gifted for the purposes of these tests, the Oli Natura was purchased with my own money
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@patmos72
@patmos72 Жыл бұрын
Very useful test. Appreciate your work on that. I happen to have both and about to oil kitchen doors, started with Oli Natura, quite happy with the results.
@andymarriott8150
@andymarriott8150 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Keith and very fairly presented points of view. Merry Christmas and a Happy new year to both you and Rhea (apologies if I've used the wrong spelling)
@JaceTLittle
@JaceTLittle 2 жыл бұрын
Nice test. Real world and applicable. Keep up the good work
@awantamta
@awantamta 2 жыл бұрын
Very useful. Merry Christmas and a happy new year
@essentialhandyman
@essentialhandyman 2 жыл бұрын
Really helpful and useful video Keith. Thanks for posting.
@David.M.
@David.M. 2 жыл бұрын
I have been enjoying your new podcast, thanks.
@Amped-JDS
@Amped-JDS 2 жыл бұрын
Useful video this as i have never been able to justify OSMO prices and this just confirms that i don't seem to be missing out on anything by not using it. Thanks for this and have a Great Xmas.
@mikehewitt6484
@mikehewitt6484 2 жыл бұрын
I found this video really helpful and informative. Thank you for posting it and spending the time and effort to do the testing 😉👍🏻
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@bullwinkle69
@bullwinkle69 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing your tests, I’ve never heard of hard wax before👍
@honeybee2919
@honeybee2919 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much! I need to restore some furniture your channel has been a godsend :-) i'll be going for the Oli Natura
@captainsawdust1
@captainsawdust1 2 жыл бұрын
Well done. Unscientific but realistic stain tests. Good job!
@jay_behr
@jay_behr 9 ай бұрын
Another outstanding video, thank you ... I'm still a couple of weeks away from needing my first finishing oil or wax but I know now what I'm going to purchase :) Bonus brownie points to you for not finding a way to cheat the "sent for free" wax into 1st place - that tales genuine integrity.
@briansworkshop01
@briansworkshop01 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and test thanks for sharing your time 🍺🍺👍👍
@newmmusic
@newmmusic 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been using Osmo for years and it’s actually fine to continue to use worktops, floors etc after the initial 8-12 hrs drying time. Never had any problems with it apart from it being quite expensive. Nice comparison vid thanks for the content 👍
@hannahswann747
@hannahswann747 Жыл бұрын
SO HELPFUL!! Thanks a lot xox
@joroyle8108
@joroyle8108 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas to you both have a good one
@maxstemmer8788
@maxstemmer8788 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are fun and merry Christmas and how is Dylan getting on and I love when he is the videos
@smallspacecreation5768
@smallspacecreation5768 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Keith really interesting l use osmo quite a bit didn’t know there was a cheaper alternative will give it a try 👍👍
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Mark
@frankslittleworkshop
@frankslittleworkshop 2 жыл бұрын
😁 Excellent video Keith 👍. Loved the testing format. I have been using Osmo for all the oak doors I fitted upstairs (only one left to go). The finish is great, but as you say... its a bit pricey. But the biggest issue I had was indeed the cure time ☹. My little workshop is integral with the house so some dust "always" escapes... and you guessed it... it sticks to Soft Osmo a treat 😒. Thanks for the video 😁👍... and have a great Christmas 🎅👍
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Frank happy Christmas!
@robsonwoodwork
@robsonwoodwork 2 жыл бұрын
Great timing, Keith! Planning on sending the current nasty finish off my computer desktop over Christmas - and had been planning on getting some Osmo to finish it with. Seeing this and how very close the two products are, I've just ordered a tin of tje Oli Natura as it's such a better price! Cheers! 👍
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Glad I saved you some cash 👌
@robsonwoodwork
@robsonwoodwork 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown Oh for sure! Excellent videos as ever sir!
@BischBaschBosch
@BischBaschBosch 2 жыл бұрын
Hadn't heard of the Oli. Will give it a test just in case. For my furniture I use 2 products to try achieve as natural, untreated look as possible. Osmo for the tops, Bona Mega for legs and frames. Neither are cheap but the combination works. I tend to sand to 320, apply 2 coats of osmo, 1 per day with a brush as you did. 2 days later, sand with 400 and apply a final osmo coat with a soft cloth. Buff 2 days later at which point the pieces are taken inside to condition for a month. After which, water will bead on the top of it. The conditioning is for wood movement before sending to customer rather than waiting for the osmo but same, same. If the Oli can do the same for less, bonus!
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
That's really interesting, three coats in total then? I'll have to try out your method on my next project as I'll be using hard wax oil (now I have so much of it!!) Haven't heard of the Bona Mega, will give it a look!
@BischBaschBosch
@BischBaschBosch 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown Yeah, 3 coats. The first just grain lifts. Second seals and 3rd finishes. Not the recommended process but it's what works for me. Bona Mega isn't a hard wax oil as such, just a natural finish. The closest I've found that leaves wood looking untreated (the "natural" variant, not matt or satin etc). Made for floors so quite durable. The Bona Traffic is more durable still.👍
@claudiabordalo4907
@claudiabordalo4907 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown yes, three coats for me as well. I know they only recommend two on their instructions, but three coats is a better finish than two. I use it on all my furniture, but have been looking for another product that does the same as Osmo, but cheaper. Prices are spiralling out of control, so thanks for this video.
@claudiabordalo4907
@claudiabordalo4907 2 жыл бұрын
@@BischBaschBosch it’s interesting you say you sand up to 320. Osmo and everyone else I’ve listened/read as said 240 max, anything over seals the grain. Have you tried anything lower than 320, and not liked it? Or do you find that you get a better finish with 320? Interested to know as we can always learn from others 😊 thanks
@BischBaschBosch
@BischBaschBosch 2 жыл бұрын
@@claudiabordalo4907 They do recommend sanding to 240 and that is generally accepted wisdom. I used to. I just get better results from a 320 sand. I've been doing that about 4 years now and my tops are great. There's clearly absorption at 320. At 240, there's too much grain lift for my liking. Even if you wet the grain before a 240 sand. The lift with oil will still mean you effectively sand everything away to correct. So yeah, 320 works for me despite what's commonly accepted.
@leehenderson8488
@leehenderson8488 2 жыл бұрын
I use Osmo Polyx fairly often so always good info to see how others compare. Id be interested to see if theres much difference in the top oil in terms of durability, drying times and application.
@jpkalishek4586
@jpkalishek4586 2 жыл бұрын
The place I work at was exploring a product line and one of our lab techs had to do essentially exactly this, but with ceramic and clay floor tiles. She'd make what ever the sealer was she was using, coat the tiles in various solutions and then go with the staining agents.Ink and wine as well as ketchup, and artificially colored fruit flavored drinks were among the hardest to keep from getting into the works for her. To maintain the lie they were trying to find a new lab and not letting go all of our Texas R&D and testing folks, they had her doing this until the day they closed the doors. Of all the items she was working with, only one is something we sell, now, because the customer knows full well where we get it, but the maker won't add the biocide to it to prevent it going bad before it gets to Turkey from the USA.
@bigmonkey999888
@bigmonkey999888 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas and a new year to you all from Steve, Beeston, Leeds
@philipwilliams8114
@philipwilliams8114 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing as I have a project for this. Cheers Keith! Cheaper oil purchased via link. Cheers
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers and good luck with it
@whomadethatsaltysoup
@whomadethatsaltysoup 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to share your experience with both these products. You are absolutely on the money when you say nobody is going to wait for weeks before using their worktops. As a rule, I tend to avoid the cheaper products, as I'd rather save time than money. However, on the strength of your test, I'll give the Oli Natura a bash! The ink my seem like like rhino testing, but in my experience, the worst offenders are cleaning products, bottles of bleach and the like.
@maxstemmer8788
@maxstemmer8788 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great 👍
@RobinhoodarrowsRHA
@RobinhoodarrowsRHA 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Ive been using the Oli Natura fir a couple of years now and though Ive personally been very happy with it its nice to hear positive feedback from someone like yourself too 😊 Can I ask, what Rode mic is that youre using in the vid? Looks very interesting
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yeah it's the Rode wireless go
@darrenpaulgreen
@darrenpaulgreen 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this review Keith. Osmo has been my go to finish for a number of years, but think I’ll give the Oli Natura a go on project t see how it compares. For worktops, I tend to use Osmo’s Top Oil which I think had a quicker dry time, though I always advise customers to use their newly refinished worktops sparingly for the first few days.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers Darren
@marklince3433
@marklince3433 2 жыл бұрын
excellent vid thanks
@theduftmeister
@theduftmeister 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith. Great video!! Not heard of Oli Natura before, looks good! Although it's not Polyx-Oil, I do have, (unopened) some Osmo 'Top Oil' 3068 Matt which is also a wax oil. I also have unopened a tin of Rubio Monocoat Oil Plus 2C ( Pure ) and a jar of Odie's Oil. I'm hoping to use them in projects in the near future. I can record a test between the 3 if that would be of any interest to you or other viewers? Thanks for the great vids!👍
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
I'd watch it for sure 👍
@onlyme7939
@onlyme7939 2 жыл бұрын
I was literally just about to buy the osmo to treat my oak doors so this came at exactly the right time, needless to say no osmo was purchased, thanks R&B
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Cheers, back in stock on Amazon now 👍
@MatzeMaulwurf
@MatzeMaulwurf 21 күн бұрын
Hi, I am using Oli Natura since ~10 years and I realy love their products. For Floor I use the "HS Profiöl" and for furniture, toys, tools and gadgets I use the "Hartwachsöl". The Screw-On-Cap is superb for long term storage.
@damesframes748
@damesframes748 2 жыл бұрын
Great video big fan of the the channel, did you consider the environmental impact of each product?
@jimbenge9649
@jimbenge9649 2 жыл бұрын
Merry Christmas.
@rolandkeys8297
@rolandkeys8297 2 жыл бұрын
Only uses Osmo once and was disappointed by the finish. It was Osmo door oil and it left white stains on the doors, I used it as I couldn't get my usual oil. Both oils were used in the same way but in two different houses on the same building site. The Osmo did polish out easily but it was another step that cost me time. Used a couple of other hard wax oil finishes now and found everyone as good, easier to use and all but 2 cheaper. I also use a grain filler on open grain woods such as oak as all the open pores suck up stains like a sponge and maybe why the stains were left on the wood as well.
@johannes.f.r.
@johannes.f.r. 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure india ink is a test of protection after a long wait. The ink will be fully dry by then and not soluble in water anymore. What remains are just particles and is more a test of smoothness of the wood or the finish. Would be interesting to see if the finishes can take removing all stains completely with whatever it takes/is recommended.
@norakasa
@norakasa 2 жыл бұрын
I've found fiddes hardwax oil also a lot cheaper, faster to dry and to me seems just as good tho I have not gone into trouble of testing. I also do not wipe oil off after application. Seems to achieve better results. Lastly if I do something like a kitchen or table top I also always finish with waxing as that really helps sealing and protecting against stains.
@BrainFizz
@BrainFizz 2 жыл бұрын
Ive used the liber on HWO too and liked it.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Hi all, so this is a video that I actually shot 4 months ago, but as soon as I finished it the Oli Natura oil went out of stock 🤦‍♂ so there seemed little point in posting it... But now it's finally available again!! Oli Natura Hard Wax Oil Clear Satin 1l geni.us/nAdR Osmo Polyx-Oil Clear Matt 750ml geni.us/k0sqawA 2.5l geni.us/L3mP Osmo Polyx-Oil Clear Semi-Matt 750ml geni.us/CP5E8 2.5l geni.us/CBDy Osmo Polyx-Oil Clear Satin 750ml geni.us/Y5di 2.5l geni.us/Yz4m6oN Osmo Polyx-Oil Clear Gloss 750ml geni.us/3abh6rs 2.5l geni.us/tJBA5V PLEASE READ: 1. Price per litre source: camelcamelcamel.com - average product prices on Amazon over the past year 2. It came to my attention after shooting this video that there is also a product by Osmo called Osmo Polyx-Oil Rapid which has a slightly faster drying time of 4-5 hours under good ventiliation. However, this product still takes 2-3 weeks to fully cure 3. The Osmo Polyx-Oil featured in this video was gifted for the purposes of these tests, the Oli Natura was purchased with my own money #hardwaxoil #osmopolyx #olinatura Thanks for watching! Please subscribe, click like if you like, and hit the bell icon for future video notifications HELP SUPPORT THE CHANNEL: Support with KZbin channel membership: kzbin.info/door/VyE... Support with Patreon: www.patreon.com/ragnbonebrown Support with PayPal paypal.me/ragnbonebrown MY TOOLS: For links to the tools I use, plus some of my favourite consumables, finishes and more see links below. As an Amazon Associate I may earn a small commission from qualifying purchases: UK affiliate store: www.amazon.co.uk/shop/ragnbon... US affiliate store: www.amazon.com/shop/ragnboneb... SHOP: Etsy: www.etsy.com/uk/shop/KeithBro... teespring.com/stores/rag-n-bone-brown...
@johannes.f.r.
@johannes.f.r. 2 жыл бұрын
That's actually a big selling point for me, whatever finish I use has to be available and still around for quite a few years. Of course there are no guarantees, but I try to avoid obscure (re)brands.
@runninngman9802
@runninngman9802 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do testing or similar video for EXTERNAL products to seal outdoor furniture? Not painting, but oiling/wax sealing. Thnx
@andymarriott8150
@andymarriott8150 2 жыл бұрын
I did wonder about the shorts in one of your clips and was thinking he's either really brave to wear shorts in December or he's only gone and turned his workshop into a sauna 😂
@SteveStrassburg
@SteveStrassburg 2 жыл бұрын
It isn't available on Amazon US. Not coming up with the search link you posted above.
@stephenbozzone1116
@stephenbozzone1116 2 жыл бұрын
@@SteveStrassburg it shipped for free from the Amazon UK site. It took around a week arrive to Indiana . For $31/liter it’s worth the wait and it’s half the cost of Osmo.
@DocteGaby
@DocteGaby 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith, can this finish be applied to painted wood? Btw the oli natura seems to be back in stock.
@mikedeman5351
@mikedeman5351 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting comparison. Liberon Hard Wax Oil might also be worth considering. £14.40 a litre from Screwfix and the second coat is dry in 24 hours.
@paulrichards6189
@paulrichards6189 2 жыл бұрын
Did you consider trying the test on stained timber, or on softwood? (Or on stained softwood?!)
@tonyworkswood
@tonyworkswood 2 жыл бұрын
Good fair test Keith. I think the price will be the main swaying factor for the majority of users these days. Tony
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Certainly works for me! 👍
@nicktsatsaronis173
@nicktsatsaronis173 2 жыл бұрын
have been using Osmo on eucalyptus (here in Australia) and have achieved very pleasing results applying it with a scotch-bright pad. It leaves a very smooth almost burnished surface. Has any one else been using this method?
@paperyakuk
@paperyakuk 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really useful video, thank you! I’ve only ever used WOCA Worktop oil on my kitchen counter tops before which sounds similar to the OSMO in that it comes in a range of colours and finishes. The WOCA is a pain because it always goes on too thick and you have to buff the life out of it otherwise it can go sticky. From your tests do you think the OSMO would need to be buffed in the same way? I had a look at the Oil Natura and it looks like that’s a buffing one too. Thanks again for a really useful video!
@alexcyoung
@alexcyoung 2 жыл бұрын
Having used woca in the past I'd really recommend making your life easier with either of these oils. They are very easy to apply
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
There's no need to buff the hard wax oil, unless desired for more sheen
@paperyakuk
@paperyakuk 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown Well that will certainly make my life easier! I was under the impression that it needed pushing into the grain, a bit like burnishing but with a buffing tool I suppose, but I’ve always preferred the semi-matte finish anyway. Very good to know! Thank you!
@sbi3234
@sbi3234 2 жыл бұрын
Hi keith was hoping you could help. Just watched your review on a 14inch charnwood bandsaw. Safe to say it ain't £500 anymore, more like €1000 in Ireland 🤦‍♂️. I havent ever seen this tool In your vids that I can remember. I'm looking at buying a bandsaw for wood turning. Did this end up being a good buy or should I look back at the record power ones. Many thanks for reading this
@kz.irudimen
@kz.irudimen Жыл бұрын
Do you still use the Oli Natura ? Are you still happy with it 2 years later ? Thanks!
@williamavery9185
@williamavery9185 2 жыл бұрын
I need you help. Ilive in the carribean my front door faces west and gets full sun p.m. its made of very thick pine. All i tried so far are stains and varnish, which is a mess in 5 weeks. Im thinking linseed oil after i get back to bare wood. Surely another coat every 4 weeks is bereable ? Thankyou.
@chrishartle1326
@chrishartle1326 2 жыл бұрын
Nice Harry Hill reference
@hythewoodworkdesigns
@hythewoodworkdesigns 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith, This is an interesting video. My test was between Osmo & Liberon HWO's on oak & cherry. The Liberon produced a similar result to the Oli Natura, so I'm curious to know your thoughts on Liberon, assuming you've tried it. Thanks G
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Gary, I've not tried the Liberon as yet...
@kanedNunable
@kanedNunable 2 жыл бұрын
i do a lot of work with scaff boards (seems the cheapest way to make chunky rustic stuff in UK). but its very light. is there an osmo with stain in? would save me a lot of time....
@alasdairmackenzie515
@alasdairmackenzie515 2 жыл бұрын
Like you, I prefer the Oli Natura on price grounds alone. I've found that the gloss Osmo is more like a satin finish and I've always been happy with it on various woods. The fact that there is no variety of the Oli is not an issue for me. I haven't done any tests but I wonder how the finishes would have fared on other, less open grained woods...? I've used the Oli on a game board made of Oak, Ash, Elm, Sycamore and Purpleheart and I was very happy with it.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good point. I'd like to do more tests in future
@paultay23
@paultay23 2 жыл бұрын
Seems like a fair test Keith and will mean a load of sales for the Oli products... I am sure Karl Pope uses this product and is also pleased with it. I have used Osmo but was less than pleased with it. Cheers Paul
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah I think it was Karl who first recommended it to me. Great product
@suespanton9403
@suespanton9403 2 жыл бұрын
I use Treatex hardwax oil - is that the same type of thing as the Oli?
@northernhelix4480
@northernhelix4480 2 жыл бұрын
anyone able to help with the removal of dried hard wood oil overspill/spills. managed to get some on the tiles and drops on kitchen cabinets and cant find anything on how to remove it without causing damage. any help appreciated if anyone has any ideas or tips. thanks
@frederickwood9116
@frederickwood9116 Жыл бұрын
Anyone know where to get the Oli Natura hard wax oil currently? Amazon says it’s unavailable. Also, any update on its durability? Thanks for the material.
@nathanlucas6465
@nathanlucas6465 2 жыл бұрын
How do you think these 2 compare to the fiddes hard wax oil that you've used in earlier vids? I did our kitchen worktops in the fiddes and it's holding up way better than the Danish oil that was the previous finish
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Although I've not tested Fiddes, I suspect they compare much the same. I've used Fiddes, Osmo and now the Oli Natura and all seem great to me, so from now on I'll buy whichever is cheapest!
@maxstemmer8788
@maxstemmer8788 2 жыл бұрын
Keith when was your first ever woodworking project and how old is Dylan
@howardbecdove9780
@howardbecdove9780 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video. I have a house in Australia, and every door frame, door (glass paneled like the one in your background) window, window frame, is cedar. Not only that but there are many meters of cedar cladding, front and back - thats 24 window and frames, I double door and frame and 4 single doors and 6 door frames ( 2 solid regular doors). That’s kind of x 2, because there’s inside and outside. It’s taken more than 2 years to sand back and apply Osmo in my spare time. Osmo comes in a number of sheens, has many tints and also a UV version for outdoor surfaces. Recommended preparation is up to 240grit for indoor oil and no more than 120 grit for outdoor oil. Beyond the scope of your comparison is how durable one oil is over the other. Does the 3 week fully cure time mean greater strength and durability? It would also be interesting to know how much oil is taken up per meter. Osmo is applied super thinly. I used only about 4 liters for two Coates for all of the above, inside frames and outside frames. Is one more economical than the other? Incidentally, in the beginning I also started the wipe method with lint free cloth and later gave that up. A better, and more economical result was achieved by coming back over the work with same brush, after I’d coated each frame, feathering and any excess went back into use. Osmo states that only two initial coats required on bare timber. When surfaces needs to be oiled after some years, no re-sanding required, only cleaning and one coat. Does same apply? Thanks again.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Osmo certainly has a better range of products, but Oli Natura is comparable in almost every way, also needs to be applied thin and goes just as far as Osmo does.
@BraxFilm
@BraxFilm 2 жыл бұрын
Ive used Osmo for a lot of my furniture projects and been surprised every time for how good of a finish it is. for tables and countertops I have only used Osmo top oil though, that comes in a screw top lid as well. Here in Norway its not particularly more expensive than other brands, but might be in other parts of the world.
@droioad
@droioad 2 жыл бұрын
How about the longevity of the Osmo oil? I plan to use it on my hardwood floor but i am still not sure how long i need to reoil it in the future comparing to normal Polyurethane.
@BraxFilm
@BraxFilm 2 жыл бұрын
@@droioad you cant really compare an hardwax oil finish to a polyurethane/laquer finish, the sheen, life and wear on it is completely different. normally on floors, i learned that it should be maintained regularly, special soap, if you even need water for cleaning, and then oiling it again every 1-3 years depending on the product and the wear. like a Bedroom floor will last longer than a living room floor etc.
@paulbanks8583
@paulbanks8583 2 жыл бұрын
I'd call that a fair test. Does the cheaper smell as strong as Osmo? Also what happened to that can. Did the courier kick it down your drive?
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Not much difference in terms of smell. And yeah I think the courier must have thrown in about a bit!!
@mtait4008
@mtait4008 Жыл бұрын
Do they last the same time?
@Defender_DIY
@Defender_DIY 2 жыл бұрын
Not relevant to this video but does anyone know if there’s a Mac Book version of Sketchup?
@paulwheatley5711
@paulwheatley5711 2 жыл бұрын
Hi,I have 4 thresholds to replace they are oak,would either of these products be suitable or do you know of anything better.regards Paul
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Yes either would be suitable. OLI is back in stock now on Amazon
@zeroy
@zeroy 2 жыл бұрын
I might well of base here but to me the main differences between varnishes and waxes in terms of price comes from durability? Something not tested here of course.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
I tested durability for stains, but not scratches, dents etc. It'd be difficult to do that in a fair way, I'd just get loads of people telling me that my tests aren't scientific enough judging by past experiences. I'd be surprised if Osmo is any more durable as they both cure to a very hard finish after the curing time is complete
@gergemall
@gergemall 10 ай бұрын
Super ❤
@karlpopewoodcraft
@karlpopewoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
It's a no brainer for me Keith I always use the OLI lovely stuff and at a reasonable price as well. I've never actually tried Osmo but it's just like buying Heinze Spaghetti when Tescos brand is actually nicer 😂
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Haha, yeah I couldn't agree more. There are some things in life where the more you spend the better product you get (Birdseye frozen peas, Fairy washing up liquid...) where buying anything else is a false economy. But then there are those occasions when the cheap stuff works just as well or better, and I love that!
@karlpopewoodcraft
@karlpopewoodcraft 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown definitely peas 😂 can't stand cheap tinned peas 🤣
@konamanstudio2447
@konamanstudio2447 2 жыл бұрын
Hope you and your family has a wonderful freaking Christmas🤙🏼🎄🎁🤣🍻🍺
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks you too
@PatrickHills
@PatrickHills 2 жыл бұрын
Tried Osmo a bit ago on a lamp I was working on and fell in love with it and used it on everything, though the price is brutal. I'd love to try the Oli Natura (for cure time) but it doesn't look like it's available in the U.S.? 🤔
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Oh really? It may just be out of stock at this time, did you try my link in the description? It's made in Germany I believe, but not sure what countries they supply.
@barryirby8609
@barryirby8609 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown I just tried your link and could not find it. Lots of stuff came up, some of it weird and wonderful, but no Oli Natura.
@keefykeef
@keefykeef 2 жыл бұрын
@@barryirby8609 sold out again
@keefykeef
@keefykeef 2 жыл бұрын
@@barryirby8609 now back in stock!!
@ashleyberry1116
@ashleyberry1116 2 жыл бұрын
Why have you not posted any new vids recently, Keith?
@Karaon
@Karaon 2 жыл бұрын
I must say that Osmo Oilwax and probably more stuff like this out there requires at least a week or two to fully cure. It is cured to be sanded next day or two, but it's full protection is reached after an oxydation process which lasts. Material shouldn't be covered during this process. This is why each table I sell to my clients, I give them instructions on using just a dry cloth to clean it for the first two weeks. If you wet the surface that will extend the full curing process.
@frandy1774
@frandy1774 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Keith I was just wondering why Did wipe away the excess?
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, hard wax oil needs to be applied very thinly in order to cure properly, and wiping the excess away is a great method in my experience
@haroon420
@haroon420 2 жыл бұрын
How do you clean brushes after using them with these oils?
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Mineral spirits / white spirit
@SirBenJamin_
@SirBenJamin_ 2 жыл бұрын
Thats quite the difference in curing times. Makes you wonder if it's actually accurate.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Yep, perhaps another good idea for a test...
@DuceDesigns
@DuceDesigns 2 жыл бұрын
I use the Oli natura, love the stuff. The can I got from Amazon came with the exact same dents too 🤣
@TonyAFC85
@TonyAFC85 4 ай бұрын
Silly question, but what are you doing with your rags/clothes once you’ve finished with them? I worry about causing a fire and that’s putting me off purchasing some wood finishes
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 4 ай бұрын
Putting them in a metal tin
@TonyAFC85
@TonyAFC85 4 ай бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown a biscuit tin for example? And when they’re dry where do you dispose of them?
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 4 ай бұрын
Yes that should be fine. Once the oil has fully cured there is no risk of combustion and they can just be thrown away
@TonyAFC85
@TonyAFC85 4 ай бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown Thank you. Love your channel and your no nonsense approach to providing people with knowledge it’s been really helpful to me personally 👍
@alistairbiggar6830
@alistairbiggar6830 2 жыл бұрын
I've never tried Osmo as I, personally, can't justify the cost of it. This Oli Natura looks great...would you say they cover a similar amount per litre? Reason for asking is that Osmo fans always revert to the coverage when justifying the cost.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Alistair, that's a great point and probably something I should have thought about including in there video. Coverage is exactly the same with all hard wax oils, the same principle applies, a little goes a long way no matter what brand you go for 👍
@rjcvintage1027
@rjcvintage1027 2 жыл бұрын
A vote here for Fiddes Hard Wax oil, which I use, as well as Osmo. It is an excellent product, if you are looking for an alternative. I use it on most of my restoration jobs if needed.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
I've used Fiddes for years, in my experience it works just as well as these two products but with a bit more of an amber colour
@rjcvintage1027
@rjcvintage1027 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown yeah, I don't mind that when called for, nice to have a few choices on the shelf. Good video, thank you.
@Gman4633
@Gman4633 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the ink for Oli Natura says it is unavailable and unknown if it will be available. May have to find it else where but that doesn’t help you sorry. Great video thanks for doing the test.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, terrible timing on my part then!! 🤦🏻‍♂️
@Gman4633
@Gman4633 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown or maybe good timing as now I may have to go Osmo 😀
@jamierftighe
@jamierftighe 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve used osmo door oil but its expensive will the oli be ok on oak veneered doors?
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah works well on veneer
@bc3024
@bc3024 2 жыл бұрын
Good Vid as usual. You hoping you get some red wine sent free too?
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
I can't actually drink the stuff since having a bad night on it during my early twenties! But I'm sure Ria would accept it!
@mikeporter59
@mikeporter59 2 жыл бұрын
How does your oil wax that you sell stand up to these products?
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
It is not as hard-wearing as hard wax oil, it's more of an ornamental finish
@ChrisFranklyn
@ChrisFranklyn 2 жыл бұрын
I'm wondering how the ink test would have faired if you'd not left it. If that beading up that Osmo was doing would have rescued it. It seemed with both, the problem was when it got into the low grain. Good test, and I certainly think the dry time of the Natura has it for me. I'll get some to try on my guitars.
@MrHighflyingclive
@MrHighflyingclive 2 жыл бұрын
A very interesting comparison. I usually use Polyx, but have just ordered a can of Oli Natura. From the comments, it seems that I am not alone - Oli should put you on commission :-). I'm wondering if the cost comparison is fair. Osmo costs more, but a very, very little goes a very, very long way. Osmo should be applied very thinly - almost molecule thin. Matt Eastlea has published a video showing just how far it can go. I apply Osmo with a white non-abrasive pad. Applying Osmo Polyx by brush is not recommended by the manufacturer as a thick coat will not penetrate the wood properly. Oli, on the other hand suggest applying their product by brush or roller, which will obviously result in a heavier application. It is a fine balancing act - Osmo costs more, but will, I suspect, have far greater coverage than Oli Natura, when applied according to the manufacturers instructions. On the other hand, Oli is half the price of Osmo. Thank you for introducing Oli Natura. I have run out of Osmo, so look forward to trying the Oli product.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Good luck with it. Both Oli and Osmo need to be applied very thinly. The method of application really doesn't matter as long as you remove the excess. I've used the pad method before but it cripples my hand for some reason, I find brush more comfortable
@norakasa
@norakasa 2 жыл бұрын
Also another point. Osmo is thicker than other brands of hardwax oils and therefore harder to apply. An important point if this is your job and not a hobby.
@MicroFourThirdsCorner
@MicroFourThirdsCorner 2 жыл бұрын
I've used OSMO on many projects. Yes, it seems expensive but goes a very long way if applied correctly. I usually apply with the non-abrasive pads rather than a brush, making sure to go in circles to get it in to every grain pore, then finish with a wipe in the general grain direction. Doing it this way means there is usually every little excess to wipe off. Re-cost in 8-10 hours, then leave for a couple of days. The only one I've had any trouble with is a bench I leave outside because it got wet after only 36 hours of applying. I'll be stripping back and re-coating this winter. I've only ever bought the smaller tins because it goes such a long way.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Have you tried the Oli Natura? It goes just as far as the Osmo and at half the price....
@MicroFourThirdsCorner
@MicroFourThirdsCorner 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown Not that particular brand, no. I have so many oils and finishes from Tung Oil to Danish Oil to Wax Oils that while interesting to compare, I don't think I need another one :)
@cjcheshire
@cjcheshire 2 ай бұрын
So glad I just bought a tin of osmo 😂
@thord9055
@thord9055 2 жыл бұрын
Bloody hell Keith. It starting to get expensive watching you videos 🙃
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
It was meant to save you money 😄👍
@davipip
@davipip 2 жыл бұрын
Osmo seems more eco friendly and oli natura VOC level is very high witch is very bad for your health
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Not sure where you got your information but Oli Natura is... "Allergy-friendly (ECARF seal) Food safe ((EG) No: 1935/2004) DIN 71-3 (Safety of children's toys) DIN 53160 (saliva- and sweat-proof) DIN 68861, 1 B (selected media) FREE of formaldehyde, aromatics, biocides, preservatives, cobalt and oximes Z-157.10- 18 (emission-tested construction product according to DIBt principles) EU-Decopaint compliant"
@davipip
@davipip 2 жыл бұрын
@@RagnBoneBrown Label states nearly 500g/l VOC 250g/l is considered very high Osmo contains more likely less than 50g/l These values can also be found in the safety datasheets of the products (technical datasheets are hiding these details)
@PabloBD
@PabloBD 2 жыл бұрын
Osmo is not gonna send you products any more xD Anyway it was very fun
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
Haha that's probably true. That big tin should last a while though 😄
@grahamjonathan762
@grahamjonathan762 7 ай бұрын
Osmo rapid cures the waiting time Excuse the pun😂
@matthewvanduker3847
@matthewvanduker3847 Жыл бұрын
They sent it to you for free, and you didn't even follow the instructions. 🤦‍♂️
@noseyfuker
@noseyfuker 2 жыл бұрын
Unfair test for the wine, what a waste
@mikedarby4872
@mikedarby4872 2 жыл бұрын
Oli Natura Hard Wax Oil, Out of stock again!
@OOAK-Ireland
@OOAK-Ireland 2 жыл бұрын
wow, i did like the tests, however i do not agree with all your findings. especially not the stain ones. I can not see any water stain on the osmo, but i can on the other. I can not see any wine on either. As i said i like the tests but do not like the conclusions this video blogger has derived from the tests.
@RagnBoneBrown
@RagnBoneBrown 2 жыл бұрын
I did say in the video that the water stain was more prominent on the Oli than the osmo. So I'm not sure what you're on about, maybe you misheard me
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