Finding a definitive cause to an elusive electrical fault is a level of satisfaction that is beyond words. Nice work!
@bloodbull1234 ай бұрын
If it's a Chrysler and it seems too weird to be true, throw a computer at it. Had one that wasn't sending a crank signal to 2/4 cylinders (similar to the truck ray did a few weeks ago), and one that would die every time the horn was pressed or went over the right bump while turning. Threw a computer in both and they ran fine for years....
@PSUK3 ай бұрын
An intermittent fault. Engineer’s worse nightmare
@DL-vm5ox3 ай бұрын
@@bloodbull123free ee3
@JM3OFW2 ай бұрын
Seriously, that was better than the best suspenseful movie I have ever seen.
@philipershler4204 ай бұрын
Quite early on in diagnosis process, I said to myself, some wires are melted together somewhere. Once again Ray’s knowledge of how to find such melted wires has been for the win! 🏆
@michaelpressman72034 ай бұрын
I wonder what caused the melted wire...overload? or maybe sitting near the exhaust?
@philipershler4204 ай бұрын
@@michaelpressman7203 My guess is the exhaust.
@ShouldersMoondog5494 ай бұрын
Being an electrician for over 50 years, finding electrical problems can be a "head scratcher" you did a wonderful job of T/S getting to the really problem. That is not going to be a easy repair!! Stay safe during the upcoming storm!! I'll be praying for you all as well as ALL of the people in the storm track!
@Theywereright24-74 ай бұрын
I’ve been working on mechanical and electrical for about 50 years too. I’ve installed many complete wiring harnesses. I hate when a bundle of wires melt together under the dash or behind the engine. That seems to be a favorite place. He did a good job on this one considering his diagram was not correct.
@meeksywampus4 ай бұрын
Just getting into a line of work with lots of electrical/mechanical work, I'm learning that wiring issues is like tracking down a needle in a haystack sometimes.
@nickmalone31434 ай бұрын
Only criticism i have is should check major grounds under a load with test light as continuity alone can be misleading. This method should not be used on grounds to ecm ...need very low amperage test light .. so you dont blow out ecm drivers.
@randybeard60404 ай бұрын
My son that works for AR. Power and LIght-Entergy Co. is on his way to Florida right now to Assist in any Electrical Issues brought on by that Hurricane. Ray, hope all your Property escapes any Damage...
@DocZoidberg5494 ай бұрын
Tell Him thanks. I live in Panama City.
@JohnFromTennesse14 ай бұрын
Hope you will be safe during the upcoming storm.
@phatcowboy764 ай бұрын
The money shot. Nice one Ray. All melted into one big glob. I hope the ECM survived that. Have a part 2 pleeeease.
@john_thorpe4 ай бұрын
One big question is why did they melt in the first place.... along with the connector at the CPS.
@Valentine987662 ай бұрын
It was the Florida heat and humidity certainly nothing else💃
@nathanhale64774 ай бұрын
You know the last guy was a stellar mechanic when the first thing you see are all the old parts from the last parts cannon load!😢
@shermanikk4 ай бұрын
You should get a scope, even if it's just one of those cheap little handheld ones they're good enough for diagnosing stuff like this. Super handy!
@stevewhite34244 ай бұрын
Yup Eric O uses one pretty regularly. I think he's got it listed on his website.
@Streamer6874 ай бұрын
Scope's expensive i bet... Ray just proved that having ALL the Gear car manufacturers say you need to diagnose is not the end all to a problem, its the know how and experience that counts in solving problems. (Would be nice for any Garage to have a complete set of 'Bells and Whistles" thos?)
@nickmalone31434 ай бұрын
YT CENSORING HERE
@kassemadam30054 ай бұрын
@@Streamer687 A scope is such an important electrical diagnosis tool to get. You can get a 2 channel picoscope for only $150. Its a cheap picoscope that can do what any other expensive scope can do. If you want to use it for automotive purposes such as testing injector and ignition pulses, you would need an attenuator addon tho, but thats only an additional $15.
@rickkcir99594 ай бұрын
I agree. I would hate to bring my car to a tech that charged me for his time but didn't have basic diagnostic tools. Simple scopes are cheap. Nice-ish scopes are cheap.
@CedroCron4 ай бұрын
Chryslers are really fussy on non OEM Crank position sensors. South Main Auto and Pine Hallow Auto Diagnostics have a bunch of videos on it. The reason for the long crank is the PCM eventually gives up and starts using a Cam position sensor instead for engine timing. I wish you and the family all the best during the Hurricane. Hopefully it misses you guys completely.
@jimmckean71124 ай бұрын
Good morning to you from way up here in NE Minnesota's Iron Range . Love the Chanel, wishing you the best with gmthis storm. We hit one morning low of 29. Lol. Keep up the good work, I'm a semi retired mechanic with 58 yrs of experience so I've seen all the changes, I give you credit for the things you tackle. I built a home shop one hoist, just doing suspension, brakes, etc. At 78 I still can help people with their needs. Jim
@ctbale14 ай бұрын
Have you ever heard of Oliver Iron Mining Company?
@earlribaudo48074 ай бұрын
Great job on finding the problem. Never give up, there is always something causing the problem and you did a great job even with all the color and connector problems. Can't wait for the next one and stay out of the rain.
@markvl114 ай бұрын
also sounds like a trip to pull n' go (Fl version of Wilberts u-pull-it)
@Taillighttim264 ай бұрын
Eric O favorite place for parts that he can't get or too expensive for new
@stanbrow4 ай бұрын
WOW, not a failure I would expect to see. Great diagnostics.
@dustinshadle7324 ай бұрын
Same thing happened to my friends Dakota with the 4.7. He saw how common electrical problems were with dodge, and fixed it, replaced the ecm and sold the truck. Now he's driving a 2016 gmc 2500.
@shadowopsairman15834 ай бұрын
Same with transmissions, major oil leaks with pentastar 3.6, they are on life support with stellantis, if anything they should be allowed to fail and not bail.
@peasantpoet4 ай бұрын
I'm truly sorry for your friend. He went from one puddle of liquified feces to a steaming pile of crap.
@kennethbowry15214 ай бұрын
What a nightmare, well done Ray.
@SOMETIMEINTHEFUTURE4 ай бұрын
Another deep dive into the merky depths, you really love exploring rabbit holes hey😝 Experience and patience for the win, excellent work sir👍👍👍
@bearing_aficionado4 ай бұрын
Feels weird that we are not seeing the F150. Now we have a new vehicle to work on!
@lakashii4 ай бұрын
He finished that in an earlier video. "First Start! Total VVT Timing System Rebuild! Ford 5.4 Triton 3 Valve"
@bearing_aficionado4 ай бұрын
@@lakashii I am aware of that. I watched the entire series.🙄🤦♂️
@lakashii4 ай бұрын
@@bearing_aficionado oops, I thought you meant it feels weird to interrupt the F150 with a new car. My bad. 🫠
@emmettturner94524 ай бұрын
I’m confused. If you are aware, what’s “weird” about it?
@bearing_aficionado4 ай бұрын
@emmettturner9452 what's there to be confused about? It's been the last four videos. Now it's on to something new.
@campy97124 ай бұрын
Great job finding the problem, making a great video. Teaching us about persistence and logic, only the Rainman can do all that !
@DumbGoogle-yz9cr4 ай бұрын
Super job Ray, I recently had a electrical diagnosis to do on an old ford transit (1985) it's my grandads and he recently had it come back from a garage from a failed washer pump repair (I forgot this key detail later) the camper came back with the indicator relay permanently going. I opened up the fuse box and pulled the relay checked it and everything seemed fine with the relay then I pulled each wire from the relay one at a time (no diagram to work off) and when I connected the wire responsible for the bulbs it started up and stuck on, we double checked all the bulbs and it wasnt shorted to ground it had resistance and the bulbs were ok I then seperated out the wires for the bulbs and found the bulb in the dash was responsible for the issue, I temporarily disconnected the wire and the next time I looked at it we pulled the dash it had a single sided flexible circuit board which I traced and found no problems until I traced the opposite side of the bulbs back through to the fuse box and to a blown washer pump fuse and what was happening the dash bulbs were acting as wires linking the relay to ground instead of 12v+
@peterparsons71414 ай бұрын
Impressive problem determination and diagnostic work.
@joseleysa51374 ай бұрын
Excellent work Ray. keep up the good work.
@elrobo35684 ай бұрын
Points, plugs and condenser. That's what I deal with now on classic cars. I am so glad I retired before computers in cars.Great job!
@randybeard60404 ай бұрын
I had rather Deal with Points, Plugs and Condenser any day over these Modern Computer Driven Vehicles, the Old Ones ran down the Hwy. just as good as these Newer ones with much less trouble...Too Much Technology-not Good...
@michaelpressman72034 ай бұрын
I remember when maybe a dozen wires or less ran from the motors
@ineedapharmists4 ай бұрын
@@randybeard6040If those cars drove forever we would still be driving them. Everything will eventually break.
@barto65774 ай бұрын
@@ineedapharmists Most problems can be repaired. Too much rust is the killer.
@70dodgedemon3 күн бұрын
i miss those days!
@Travis1411234 ай бұрын
Loved my Dodge's back in the day, but the electrical gremlins continue to this day.
@cw33394 ай бұрын
Another great Rainman video!
@awesomusmaximus37664 ай бұрын
Ouch what a pain
@ronsloan76622 күн бұрын
Hey Ray, that was quite the diagnosis that you were able to complete even though your reference material was wrong. My hat's off to you for sticking with it despite the challenge. Your patience is becoming legendary. Cheers!
@johnthreefifteen4 ай бұрын
I am feeling your frustration.
@jamesmoore71064 ай бұрын
As always, your electrical tracing skills are awesome
@CbroWe4 ай бұрын
Superb electrical troubleshooting skills Ray! I’m learning through your videos.
@parabolamadness4 ай бұрын
Love these videos. My man Ray's got the patience of a saint, never gives up.
@jesseb37584 ай бұрын
Wow you did that buddy, much respect and great job
@jenncox26424 ай бұрын
I got seasick watching you use the scan tool. Usually nice and still. Love your content and stay safe in the storm
@TheOnespeedbiker4 ай бұрын
Eric Os first rule, never trust colored/redrawn wiring diagrams, always compare to OEM. Prior to the use of cam position sensors, a bad or shorted crank sensor would leave an engine non op. The addition of a cam sensor gives the ECM a redundant signal, which is why the engine will start, but it will run in a limp mode.
@jimchambers60614 ай бұрын
And that's why I hate electrical, especially on newer cars. Requires way more patience than I have lol.
@crispybaconmatters71604 ай бұрын
The duck taped dipstick tube had me dying..ngl...
@Mega1andy23 ай бұрын
oh ray you never cease to amaze us @30:38 lol, i love what you said there drop the meter on the ground :P
@barryoverson49884 ай бұрын
you are saving cars every day no one had the patience to fix this this is why i love watching and learning stay safe man hurry cane haha
@douglasphillips12034 ай бұрын
That is insanely impressive that the truck was still running (albeit badly). Also impressive that the ECM wasn't toast.
@goodtimejohnny89724 ай бұрын
I think when you were grounding yourself I heard a Morse code message. "Get the @#$* out of Dodge!" Pretty sure that's what it was saying.😅
@jessecain16464 ай бұрын
Good Diag you figured it out . Signs of a really good macanic
@phr3dmcc0y4 ай бұрын
man, you are just too good at this shit. Even with wrong diagrams you had enough information to trace it to a bad harness.
@scraft12224 ай бұрын
oh cool got off work 130 am, gave a ride to a buddy down by college in SD Cali. opened my beer can and yessssss now I'm watching this premier video life is good
@itsroseactually4 ай бұрын
Guess I have to have a beer in LA, to balance things out over here.
@bryanballard79134 ай бұрын
Same here, off at 600 am in Tennessee. I just got home and am drinking a beer. Morning drinking normal when you work night shift?
@scraft12224 ай бұрын
@@bryanballard7913 I'm an occasional drinker, gotta buy my brew early bcause stop selling at 2am so can be kinda warm by the time I'm off work, but no problem I'm used to it
@richarddouchkov94534 ай бұрын
What a treat. An early evening Rainman Ray in Aus. Thanks Ray
@JamesTrigg4 ай бұрын
Too right mate!
@brianmckenna34404 ай бұрын
Great video Ray Man very interesting
@kurtisstutzman70564 ай бұрын
Those Dakota 4.7s were fairly peppy when new... I got a brand new 02 Dakota, 4.7, 4x4, 4 door as a work truck in my land surveying days and before we loaded all the equipment, it scooted pretty nicely...! Even with all the equipment, it was decent, but it only lasted a year... Then, by choice, I went back to my old work truck, a 98 1500 Ram with the venerable 318cid...! Thanks for sharing... Keep up your awesomeness...!
@zerocool2784 ай бұрын
And down the rabbit hole we go so so many times, Well done in chasing that rabbit sometimes we get defeated but you came up on top, Well done Ray! Hope the storm passes you all by and just fizzles out at sea.
@Ed310034 ай бұрын
Ray you guys PLZ be safe in the coming storms
@Ed310034 ай бұрын
it will come right by us too but hopeful will be downgraded some
@stevewhite34244 ай бұрын
We are about an hour South from ray but far closer to the coast.But so far so good.If the storm stays going the way it's going, we'll be fine.They are calling for up to 4 inches of rain in the next forty eight hours But not much storm surge which is what we really care about.
@zerkfitting4 ай бұрын
Mechanics like Ray are enough to make me want to move to Florida. Nice work!
@vanpunk4 ай бұрын
As a fan, living in a camper van with solar panels ratchet strapped to the top my roof up here in Ocala, I'll be thinking of y'all during this hurricane😂 hope y'all are safe, love the channel!
@jacobwingett13594 ай бұрын
Ray your wiring diagrams are the nuts, the all data my garage uses doesn’t have wiring diagrams like this. Is it a special subscription.
@donaldhalls21894 ай бұрын
That was one of the most in-depth diagnosis, 😮 and very useful, thanks for sharing, all the best to you and your loved ones
@DoingGoodWorkAllDay3 ай бұрын
Great tenacity in the face of confusing wiring readings and you found the problem! Nicely done!
@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee4 ай бұрын
I spent my career troubleshooting electronics and can really appreciate your way of thinking this through. It's enough to scramble most brains. You are the exception my man.
@tylersanderson404 ай бұрын
Check out for 5 volt reference or bad ground, I've seen a bunch of these with bad 5 volt references from wires being exposed from oil leaks. Had a ram 1500 with the 4.7 that had literally all of the wires exposed on the cam position sensor, crank position sensor, and every wire on the transmission connector. All rubbing together
@clintonmakela55113 ай бұрын
Wow! That wiring is toast! glad you found it!
@anthonyfreeman58584 ай бұрын
Hey Rainman Ray, you do an excellent job of tracking down Wiring problems. You’re very careful which wires you “pull” in order to find wires in a mess like this one. Great Work Rainman.
@paulpierce48184 ай бұрын
Outstanding. Your troubleshooting of wiring and circuit problems fascinates me. Excellent job as always on these maters.
@joejones7114 ай бұрын
Great learning video Ray. Love how you stuck with it until you found the problem.
@robeverly64874 ай бұрын
My swear jar would be overflowing figuring that out. Kudos to Ray.
@tapper19954 ай бұрын
Ray ,Fantastic work figuring this one out.Youre process and expertise on this type of electrical work is amazing to watch! Very interesting Thanks for the videos,
@larryboyd18724 ай бұрын
What struck me immediately at time index 19:52, as well as being confirmed at a few other points, its pretty clear that there is an exhaust pipe and catalytic converter about an inch away from that wiring harness, and I was dead sure at that point that it was a melted wires problem.
@davidworsley79694 ай бұрын
Why did the wires melt together?
@hypocriticalharambe82744 ай бұрын
Mopar cheaping out on the wires or part failing completely short and not having a fuse blow touching the exhaust.
@ricanderson57174 ай бұрын
You can smell the frustration in that engine bay. To quote VehCor, "Somebody's been here..."
@oojimmyflip3 ай бұрын
Mechanics like you Ray are becoming a rare breed these days, Ive just been to see my Citroen Specialist 50 miles round trip for a UK MOT test and worth the trip with both cars every year. He is a mix of old skool knowledge and New skool Knowledge and he doesnt mind you being in the workshop or helping out occasionally if you can. you get to learn a lot from him as we do watching you, chances are slim ill ever get to work on an American car but its definately interesting work, watching you practice your craft. Thanks for taking us along for the ride.
@adairwilkinson69163 ай бұрын
Your patience Ray, is amazing. Given the high mileage of this truck, I wouldn’t have been surprised, if you recommended “burial at sea!!!’, but, PLEASE , do a Part 2. I was stuck to my iPad for the whole vid. Very Best Wishes Roy W UK
@edwardrobb46823 ай бұрын
Hi guys , not the first time I have seen this exact problem of melted wires . I have repaired melted wires on some vehicles similar . While watching I thought this plug was going to lead to the exact problem . But , you have to test before that can be determined . Ray did a good job of testing .
@EdwinDominguez-l9p4 ай бұрын
Great work Ray. Be safe bro
@irishmal14 ай бұрын
Everything seems so wrong but amazing how it never fazed you. You’re a legend/genius. Well done. Great work
@g.gordon81174 ай бұрын
Jax is starting storm prep up here. The bases are sending aircraft away.
@JohnD-JohnD4 ай бұрын
Hey now!! My engine is a 5.7 in my Ram.
@martylandry7514 ай бұрын
Ray what a good job on finding the issue.
@raymondebert1804 ай бұрын
Stay safe Ray , family and crew
@TXCherokee4 ай бұрын
What a mess. Glad you found it. Wire shorts are the worst. You are “the man” Ray
@kiviech62144 ай бұрын
Yay nother good video and happy to be here so early have a good day ray you are the best
@paulmuff988318 күн бұрын
Excellent diagnosis 👍👍👍
@HenryOtten-s6x4 ай бұрын
Mr Ray, too many junk cars are being dropped off at your shop. Please reject these type of customers. Your shop has too much class. That is a compliment Ray 👍
@erikg.26664 ай бұрын
Yes, this truck is definitely a piece of junk.
@docducttape92702 ай бұрын
Yeah, fck those poor people. What a snob.
@RonRussell-sj1zf4 ай бұрын
Once again, RAY WINS! Nice troubleshooting as usual. I would be so lost on a problem like that, I'd have to have it towed all the way to Florida to your shop!
@sparksalot49504 ай бұрын
Good find Ray, electrical diagnostics make the best videos!!!
@VWMANCA4 ай бұрын
DUDE GREAT WORK MAN. DETERMINATION PAYS OFF. MOST SHOPS WOULD'VE GIVEN UP OR JUST THROW MORE OFF THE PARTS CANNON. ONE OF THE THINGS OF LIKE ABOUT U IS WHEN U CAN'T FIGURE OUT THE ISSUE OR IF IT'S ABOVE YOUR KNOWLEDGE U ADMITT IT SO YOUR CLIENT DOESN'T WASTE MORE MONEY AND U SENT IT TO THE APPROPRIATE PLACE. UR HONESTY RAY IS HARD TO FIND ESPECIALLY IN YOUR PROFESSION. ANYHOW GREAT JOB!
@LOUISIANAMAN19844 ай бұрын
Praying for you and your family may God be with everyone in this storm love your channel bro thank you so much for everything you do
@briansoutherland74654 ай бұрын
Nice, you have more patience than I could ever muster up
@JoeQuiroz-q3f4 ай бұрын
as an electrician, you have to be tenacious in getting the win. you are beyond that Ray. Great find.
@Wakeupandsniffthecoffee4 ай бұрын
In the process of replacing my AC compressor, accumulator and orifice tube. It's almost done, but even though the kit came with an orifice tube, the 4.7l I have uses a tube with the orifice built in. So now I'm waiting for a new cable with an orifice. My 2004 SLT I bought brand new in 2004 in Hawaii. In 2013 I moved it with me to Oregon and it was still under 100 k miles. It toured the US a couple times and then I packed it up and moved to Virginia. So it's 20 years old and It's getting a new AC. It lasted pretty long.
@braaaptechtv35494 ай бұрын
if i was an apprentice again id want ray to train me. not just for diag but also the enthusiasm he's got is just wild 👍
@ADScar4 ай бұрын
That was crazy. Good job finding the cause...
@Valentine987662 ай бұрын
Wild how that meter tucks perfect into the lift arms🤸
@ivari754 ай бұрын
This diag is on a whole new level. i would have given up before the culprit showed up, great job Ray!
@jynxclover4 ай бұрын
I guess I got lucky with the 3.7 in my Raider. Sitting at 242000 miles. Just replaced a 3.9 in my 01 Dakota, not too hard. I definitely want to see a part 2 on this. I'm crazy about a Dakota
@gerhardschneider75064 ай бұрын
Ray's diagnostic videos are the best!
@Ethos_Unset4 ай бұрын
Extremely thorough TPS report.
@johnmarino40854 ай бұрын
Nicely done Ray !
@patrickchavez38484 ай бұрын
Imagine for a second, that Ray wasn't a thorough mechanic, he wouldn't have found the problem! You completely and TOTALLY ROCK Mr. Ray!!
@kkhemp26393 ай бұрын
I love your troubleshooting skills
@petermccoll4694 ай бұрын
Nice diagnoses! Great video, thanks
@1DarkStorm4 ай бұрын
Welcoming back!
@ginobragoli14484 ай бұрын
Very well done, you persisted when others would have given up!👍
@michaellafleur20774 ай бұрын
Ray what a pain in the ass that was, great diagnosis. Love the long videos Ray. Stay safe with that hurrican.
@denkn4 ай бұрын
My frustration was growing with yours Ray. I held on the the upcoming gratification of the Eureka moment that I knew was in the works... Good job...
@MattTZew4 ай бұрын
Great job Ray!
@dcee28994 ай бұрын
Nice work! Chasing bad wiring inside a harness is a total pain. People often spend a bunch of $$$'s changing the parts at the ends of the wires and don't check that the wires themselves are the problem.