$4000 Timing Chain Rebuild! Ford 5.4 3 Valve Triton

[@AJwoodway]

My first 15 years of auto repair education was holding the flashlight for my dad while he muttered in a Klingon type language. Ive learned more in two years watching Ray (and a couple of other good ones) then all the years prior.

[@johngoslin3001]

😂😂😂😂😂😂👍💯

[@danielzook6618]

Oh the PTSD I have from the verbal beating I got for not holding the light straight, in the correct spot, or didn't catch the 6 inch long ash from the cigarette that fell😂😂😂

[@CraigGrant-sh3in]

By seven I knew how to set points and timing. I was the starter bumper to get it TDC but, my father also showed me how things were done. I also held the flashlight and would hear "can you see alright?" .Yep lol

[@johnschmid7785]

Klingon swear words, I bet 😁

[@mtebaldi1]

LMAO, I remember those days. I could never hold the light correctly for Dad.

[@ushosers222]

Hey Ray, I'm so glad that I found this channel. I always look forward to your cheery disposition...you're a great inspiration and I look forward to all your videos. Thanks for all you do.

[@Dan-tq8py]

I use to work at Romeo Engine where we built the 4.6 . This 5.4 looks very similar. Great job Ray😊

[@bearing_aficionado]

Man, I'm loving this series. I know you did one before a couple of years ago at the independent shop. That's how long I've been subscribed to your channel, Ray!

[@jsh6952]

He's done one at this shop, the warranty repair on a customer's crate rebuilt motor(Jasper?).

[@bearing_aficionado]

@jsh6952 yeah, remember that one but meh on it.

[@charleskadletc2431]

Beautiful video Ray. I work at a shop, not a tech (hate greasey dirty hands) but I understand tech talk.

[@shannonharris]

Wouldn't a "couple of years ago" been at the stealership?

[@bearing_aficionado]

@@shannonharris yes but then he went to an independent shop before opening his own business.

[@tomdixon1213]

This is one of your best series Ray. All the gifted powers of the Rainman were in these videos. Thanks. You have helped my Friday more than you know.

[@WilliamLaakkonen]

Almost like a real shop Ray! You've come a long way since the dealership days. It's been fun riding along with you and the family. Cheers from North Florida.

[@johnaclark1]

Almost? That's as real of a shop as there is. I'm still amazed at how quickly he ramped it up to this level.

[@rjb6327]

Almost?

[@stevenbelsky1652]

That's why I love the old school pushrod V8s so much simpler and less to go wrong

[@Blue68Camaro]

I paid $5K on a 2019 Ford F150 with 80K miles for a drive shaft, seals, gears etc, a rear end rebuild. All I had was a wining noise coming from the rear caused by a bad pinion bearing and crush sleeve. Well Ford changed parts in the middle of production and the older parts were no longer available. The newer parts could not mate with the older parts, they beefed up'ed the rear in mid production. This was not at a Ford dealer but a well known reputable shop that specializes in this area. Contacted Ford before authorizing repairs and they said have a nice day, said the same thing with the catalytic converter 5K out of warranty. Next truck WILL NOT BE a Ford, not cause of there vehicles but because of their lack of taking some ownership of my issues.

[@omardevonlittle3817]

😂 beefed up or went to cheaper materials to save money?

[@thk7513]

It does not matter any more, the manufactures have forgotten what customer good will is. Today, they are more concerned about hanging on to their dollars.

[@adotintheshark4848]

80k and all those problems? Inexcusable, was it just a driver or did you work it hard?

[@KevinFairchild-l1p]

My son bought a 2010 f150. Made the timing chain noise but we were going to give it shot. Had one dead cylinder. But to our surprise was timing chain was fine. It had a broken valve spring. That was all. Shop had quoted previous owner 8000. For a new motor. Cost is about 20 bucks and our labor. Not to shabby for a 1100 dollars. Love your posts!!!!

[@davidrobertson606]

You are amazing. Most shope would have just told the ower he needs to scrap the truck or sold him a new engine. We can see why your shop has expanded and you are doing well.

[@kendiggy]

This morning when I started watching this, I saw your little tin man oiler and thought to myself, "that would be handy to have!", and placed an order for one 😂 Watching you has cost me hundreds of dollar over the past couple years, because I see a cool tool or something you have, and just have to add them to my collection!

[@Tinvaak]

You can buy silicone plugs to plug the holes in engies while you clean the surface. The rounds ones look like sewing thimbles. You can wash the silicone plugs with regular dish soap.

[@kevincurry4735]

Happy Friday Ray. Woohoo part 3. Just sit right back and enjoy!

[@rayshutsa6690]

I enjoy watching all your video's with my morning coffee. Your shop is looking awesome and organized. I enjoy your professionalism also your attention to detail. Always waiting for the next video. You always make my day. 😃

[@rudyschurmann6211]

Good day to you too

[@frankenstein70]

Rainman Ray, your one of the best mechanics I've ever seen. I have really enjoyed this series on this Ford engine overhaul. Keep em coming. You deserve a beer or something after all you did for that truck.

[@RMartin631]

Cloyes parts are fine. I've been using their parts for decades.

[@william-bassman]

I'm liking this series so my compliments to you sir. Folks don't realize all the behind the scenes work you also do Ray. -SALUTE-

[@russelbaird3342]

While I enjoy this series, I hate how Ford once again has made working on their motor harder than needed . Space and position Ford . This maybe why people avoid going to a dealer for repairs . Time is money and dealers do charge a fortune . You are earning your pay with this rebuild Ray . Stay safe , have fun .

[@johneary8874]

Amen, that is my favorite part of watching this. Knowing that I don't have to fight this job. Still interesting to watch though. I do have a 3.6 Camaro that growls a little at startup. Heaven forbid, I might get a taste someday.

[@buckhorncortez]

Nothing like creating a strawman problem so you can sound like an automotive expert...

[@jessebanrulz5508]

Ray my suggestion is before you start to tear down an engine that requires this much work or not , POWER WASH THE ENTIRE ENGINE . This would reduce any contamination from dirt sand dust liquids . I know I wouldn’t have a problem paying for this extra charge besides I get a clean engine compartment as well .

[@TremaineLea]

I'm with you on this one because I'm seriously risk averse. Not knowing where I can take risks about the dirt and grime makes me want to avoid it completely! And being the kind of person who hates getting their hands dirty, I just prefer it 😂 For repairs I can't/won't do myself, I'll take the time before dropping a vehicle off.

[@BROCK_WARHAMMER]

I wouldn’t take the risk of inducing any electrical issues or corrosion. Compressed air blowdown would get rid of the majority of the loose dirt and grime

[@thk7513]

We would wash every engine bay for every repair. Customers, especially the guys, would open the hood and not only see a repaired engine but the entire bay cleaned. Showed we cared about our work quality and respected their car.

[@Theywereright24-7]

@@BROCK_WARHAMMER We would blow out the entire engine bay, the we sprayed WD40 on the connectors, and used mild water pressure. Works great.

[@michaelpressman7203]

It never hurts to clean any machines before tear down 😅

[@atlas869]

I used cloyes for more then forty years never had any problems !

[@stevenbelsky1652]

I guarantee all these auto manufacturers are using parts made buy other manufacturers. This way they can make more money off the consumer

[@border411]

I got to tell you, I am blown away on how entertaining and informative all of your videos are. You are amazing to watch. Thank you for all that you do to teach us little tips and tricks!

[@StormsparkPegasus]

I know engines have phasers now, but do they have photon torpedoes too? I can't help but think Star Trek whenever someone mentions phasers, haha.

[@adotintheshark4848]

" Keptin keptin Romulans have entered Federation space!"

[@michaelpressman7203]

Beam me up Scotty... there's no intelligent life here 😮

[@CajunShrek]

These are some strong workhorse engines long as you maintain them!

[@randybeard6040]

Yes they are, I have this same engine in my 2008 xlt-4x4, I went to 10-30 full synth. oil and engine runs smoother..,

[@startrek133]

No one cant ever say that Ray doesn't take pride in his work ... wish he was my mechanic

[@patrickdiehl6813]

So funny, I was wondering "What's Dave working on making all that noise?" A minute later your showing us the Mazda truck..🤣 I like the fact the Ford owner said replace it all. See you on #4 Ray, have yourself a great day!

[@treehuggermc]

And to think i was considering doing this to my f150. Glad i sold it honestly..... but i miss my truck.. /sadface. Good stuff man, much love from Texas!

[@capt.graybeard]

Once again Ray, don't pay attention to these internet carryings or keyboard carryings or trolls or whatever you call them myself included. You do your work your way others do with work their way if they don't like it they can get over and can't they. Over 50 years in the business, now I'm retired but I don't think of other than rods and mains I would have done anything any different. Still enjoying your videos, and my coffee!

[@mtn.homeforge351]

I think you need to own that whole building you're in. Have a great day and a blessed weekend!

[@opendstudio7141]

I expect Ray and Dave will expand towards an industrial complex and legacy like Dave’s Auto Center has in Utah. 👍

[@Jusaguy000]

Just had this done to my 2010 expedition . She’s ready for another 150k. 4k job with third party parts is crazy !

[@gryfandjane]

Looking good! Nice to see an engine coming back together. Just a nitpick, but I would have coated the cam caps with oil before installing. Looking forward to the next episode, and waiting for the first startup! 😊

[@hdfxrs9121]

I'm trying to tell you not to forget the rockers. You must have heard me at the last minute. I'm glad I have the 2V version of this engine. 182K so far with no issues. The only thing it needs is that oil filter/water outlet gasket replaced on the side of the block. I'll keep it until it or myself dies, whichever comes first.

[@matthewwiddows6319]

enjoying these ones, as a diy'er, just doing a HG on a volvo d5 engine with all wheel drive, lots of stuff to come off, engine bay looks like bomb has gone off, never done a hg before, reassuring to watch these series vids.

[@ragnarironspear1791]

Looking forward to this one Ray 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻🇬🇧

[@CedroCron]

Ray, you should do a "Clear flood mode" on the engine before starting it for real to prime the system with oil after such an overhaul. Either with the gas pedal to the floor, or for the models that don't support that, pulling the ECM fuse so the engine can't start. Crank over for at least 60 seconds. Let the starter rest to cool, then prime with fuel and start. As for always using OEM parts setting off the comments section, it might be good to mention that OEM's use multiple suppliers that make parts for them under the Motorcraft etc. brand names so even though you can have all sorts of parts stamped "Motorcraft" they can actually be from multiple different suppliers. OE's do this all the time, so it's quite possible the brand of Phasers you are using are in-fact a supplier to Ford under the Motorcraft name usually along with selling their own house brand of the exact same part.

[@michaelharvey3306]

Very real shop your doing so amazing don’t stop reach for the moon my friend

[@clbcl5]

The auto companies does not MAKE anything, They only design and assemble. So somebody else has to MAKE the OEM parts.

[@shakerman55]

Cloyes probably makes the ones for Motorcraft. Added: I know Denso makes the coil packs.

[@KatKawa87]

Gonna say it. While I love that Ray has his own setup now, I do kinda miss the old phone ringing antics at that old shop.

[@daveboscher1047]

Ray this is a brilliant engineering achievement also I love your channel. So informative.

[@peterrenstrom5444]

I wish that I had a guy like you here, that I could trust 😊

[@brianmckenna3440]

Great video Ray Man

[@jeramyshumaker398]

When you get some time it would be nice to see a video recap of when you started there. The building has changed alot

[@ryulee458]

Good morning Ray 🌄 okay okay get that hot cup of java today ☕ now let's get into part 3 lol 😂😂😂

[@fern222]

Thanks Ray! Ive learned a lot from you! Alwats praying for you and your beautiful family!

[@Papieck37]

What a great video Ray.... Been enjoying the series a lot... Gives a very good perspective on why a Job like this is expensive. Despite the high mileage, that engine seems to have had frequent oil changes.... Please do a follow up on the Mazda!!

[@johnmarino4085]

Nicely done Ray !

[@Seawizz203]

Nice job Ray. I check YT every morning for a new RRR new video. It’s nice to see your shop coming along. You’ve had a real shop from day one with the two stalls, unpainted walls, the hidden kitchen behind wall number three and the office AC glued into a hole in the wall with foam. It’s the people who make it a shop and you, the wife unit, Dave and……Justin? (Sorry for not being sure) are good people who make it real.

[@Floofie_boi]

Hey, at least it doesn't have an oil soaked belt.

[@CrimeVid]

Well, it's not supposed to ...

[@Floofie_boi]

@@CrimeVid on certain models Ford uses a timing belt that is soaked in oil. Oil greatly decreases lifespan of a belt.

[@TheMechanicalKoopa]

hey Ray! when you were wiping out the cam journals and found that piece of debris I seriously for a moment thought you were going to say what Mo said in Wall-E "Foreign Contaminant" LOL 🤣

[@brerobsym]

Wall looks great, and that old Mazda sounds awesome! Little bit of TLC goes a looooonnnnggg way.

[@pyro323]

Take a 🥃 every time Ray says "bolt hole"

[@opendstudio7141]

Wall of lubricious visual appeal. All labels oriented properly and caps aligned in rows. 😁 As crowded as engine bays are, I reflect back on the tangled nightmare when all systems were vacuum driven.

[@williampope3531]

Only one minor critique, Ray: I would have made sure the journals in each of the cam caps were oiled just because the cam cap journals are more prone to wear from the pressure from the valve springs. It's a minor thing, and I have been accused of being a perfectionist. I know there is NO truth to that rumor because I have screwed up plenty over these last 70 years....😳

[@dnixon8767]

The shop is looking good!

[@Doodler-JL]

A thought I had years ago while working on a machine that was difficult to service because of the design. I would love to have the engineer in the shop for a month working on these things, and maybe they would take a second look at their designs before they put them into production. Of course, I also used to dream about always having an indoor, air-conditioned/heated environment whenever I knew I would have to work outside in terrible conditions.

[@thomashopkins2609]

It IS almost like a real shop! Keep up the good work!

[@bearing_aficionado]

To really get the trolls going, you should have Jiffy Lube torque those cam cap bolts down!😂

[@JohnBjerregaard]

Dear son , when your left hand was shaking, it shows you have the proper respect for the situation you are in! Love your work , a lot

[@jonclark8155]

Good job on the rebuild

[@charlesslack8090]

26:27 Oh oh, I'm missing one rocker! 😂😂😂 26:36 Ya I found it. It was found, off camera, tapping another lifter, with another brand of oil! 😮😮😮 Once it was brought back into line, it rocked and rolled with the other great rockers of the day! 😊😊😊😊😊

[@paulocarvalho6480]

I know parts and labour aren't cheap anymore, but I wonder if it would be cheaper to buy a new engine rather than repair this one. Whatever the answer might be, I always enjoy watching Ray doing the repairs and explaining every step of said repairs.

[@omardevonlittle3817]

Buying the unknown for more than this cost... not like they make this motor anymore so you're getting a used one... that you know nothing about vs this pristine engine you've meticulously maintained.. a 5k rebuild after 20 years is acceptable in my book.

[@TonicofSonic]

​@omardevonlittle3817 This is not a rebuild this is a timing job. They rebuild these engines in mass with all new parts. I personally agree with the post. You either put 5k into a 200k engine or you put 10k-13k into a zero mileage engine. Given the situation Iwould have ran 10w40 with motorkote and this engine would have run another 10-25k easy then swapped it with a rebuild.

[@catherinemorgan2741]

Good day Ray and hi to Dave and new guy

[@barryoverson4988]

good reminder to do my one job thanks it worked

[@russellstyles5381]

Finally a good use for that 0W ... stuff. I imagine that you'd use the thinnest oil you can find. Tempted to suggest ATF, but 0w-8 should be thin enough.

[@clbcl5]

Rays seems to have the same 4 day a week schedule as the late night talk show hosts.😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁😁

[@eddieMurphy11111]

those are big clicks from a small wrench ,thanks for the video

[@jonmack5359]

putting the lifters & rockers in the second bank would have been a perfect time for the super fast light speed filming

[@donaldmiller3064]

looking good...

[@Tinvaak]

Those new timing gears tend to have burrs on them. It's not erally a problem either as they need to be very snug so they leave a bit of a lip to act as a kind of alighment seal. Makes sense if you think about it.

[@russellstyles5381]

I suspect that a similar high volume oil pump is the solution for the Chrysler hemi's that don't tolerate idling. On this engine, the high volume pump will allow it to tolerate some wear on the bearings.

[@nonotthatoneguy]

Cloyes is pretty much all I hear of anyone using for aftermarket, short of store-brand and OEM parts. I'm surprised you've never heard of them.

[@Kil7witch84]

Cloyes are the OEM supplier for the Ford timing components... :) - The only thing it's missing is the Ford QA/QC and Motorcraft PN.

[@johnblanton5983]

Good morning sir keep up the good work sir

[@delantel6689]

Excellent series Ray. The naysayers can piss off. 👏🏻

[@midniteoyl8913]

Cloyes makes great timing sets and have for many years. Not one thing wrong with buying Cloyes..

[@RichardBly-c7i]

Ray great video. Keep them coming. Thanks

[@lawrencecavens5760]

They're called Roller Followers and Lash adjusters - Words - as you say

[@steveg8337]

Yes those aren't lifters😂

[@susanl3702]

Had fun watching

[@mattbrown5511]

Ray, you killed it. And it has even run yet. I had to be a troll at least once.

[@DerrickDavis-h9b]

It is a real shop Brutha!!

[@MrJones-vi3jd]

Hi Ray, when you blow oil out of the engine try to avoid breathing the vapour very bad. Greetings from UK

[@NoName-yr1jv]

Well done 👍

[@deanowens5539]

Love the wall Ray. Great series too. Man I keep thinking of my Avalanche regarding the dod and eventually new cam and lifters. Hopefully you’ll consider that job. Hey Lauren.

[@erikg.2666]

Ray, you might want to advise the customer to change the oil a little more frequently on this engine. This will prevent varnish build up and help keep the timing components in good shape. Oil is cheap, repairs aren't.

[@stanSnider]

Good morning Ray

[@MarkKuehnel]

Are you supposed to turn the phaser bolts another 90° After Torquring and thank you for making this video I've seen enough to know i would never get all of that back together great job. You are the the only other mechanic outside Brian from Ford tech make you local to do such a detailed timing job 👏

[@Richardmccool-pf3hx]

Suggest putting camshaft in first then the lifters

[@aib0160]

The owner must love this car as the cost of the work must surely exceed the value of the vehicle?

[@Seawizz203]

It’s cheaper than buying a new or even a used truck these days. Myself and many of my friends are fixing our trucks now as opposed to the past where we’d trade them in for a new, or newer ones. It’s the time we live in. It’s cheaper to keep them running, within reason of course.

[@7700jessie]

You can damn near replace the engine for about the same price but these days it is easier and more beneficial to repair than buy newer cars and trucks. Hell I still have a mid 80's sedan I keep throwing $$ at,...... it is pretty reliable and easier to work on.

[@jonmack5359]

but a lot less than 70k for a new truck.

[@aib0160]

@@Seawizz203 Ahh, is this the result of net stupid in all it's glory trying to rid the world of ICE engines by getting the poor to subsidise the purchase of EV's for the wealthy that can afford them?

[@Theywereright24-7]

No assembly lube on the cam caps. Reeeeeeeeeee.😱

[@1964Mooney]

We have the exact same claw hammer! 🙂

[@Yurindeep]

The fact that you have administrative duties is a good thing. It means you're in control of the direction your brand is going. On an unrelated note, I am looking forward to the new lift being installed. Whether you make a video or not, it will be an exciting time for everyone involved!

[@crasher88]

not sure who's big snap on cart that was near the middle lift but I like it. I have been wanting one exactly like that with that specific draw lay out

[@stevenweiss2148]

Now i know what a 'long' block is...

[@EllaThompson-f9e9e]

Your videos always bring so much joy and smiles! Thank you for your talented sense of humor and your bright, infectious performances!🐇❔😵‍

[@Dudemieser]

I must be seeing things. I was in my ford account and I found the 5.4 long block for my 08 expedition and it was 4500 plus minus and the core money

[@stevejohnson8850]

Im going to ask a ? Based on what little I know. In a situation like this, why isn't there any assembly lube used on the caps? Is it because the cams and caps aren't new? Or could you use a little lube on those parts and still be ok?

[@dantesinfernopurgatory7826]

Triton jabbing the owner in the wallet with the 🔱

[@lawrencereddick5929]

Not to be a crazy critic here, but those engines do not have "lifters"...they have lash adjusters, and they do not have "rockers", they have roller cam followers...in spite of what seems to be common terminology. I also thought the phaser bolt tightening sequence was 30 ft lbs followed by an additional 90 degrees...maybe that's 90 ft lbs ??? Also, hoping you put in the newer style followers for better oiling. Good choice on the Melling HV pump. Maybe it's coming in the next video, but it would be great to show a detail of a bad follower. Don't forget the crank trigger wheel...ask me how I know...Most of us have no idea how hard you work, and how difficult it is to lean over the front of a truck for many hours where everything is hard to reach. It's gonna run like a new one soon. Greatly enjoy your videos!

[@orasmiller1273]

Ford is the best truck I ever had. A 99. Flipped it 3 times and still drove it for a year until the wife told me to get rid of that hideous looking thing. 😂

[@coolimpala71]

great job sofar. parts is parts same metal different companies