Rainn Wilson: "I was so unhappy during The Office!" (Dwight Schrute)

From a childhood in the jungle to Dunder Mifflin and fame, this is the Rainn Wilson you don’t know.
00:00 Intro
01:35 Growing up around missionaries in the jungle
03:12 I was filled with depression & anxiety
05:33 What have you learned from childhood trauma?
10:06 Family dramas: “I had 0 tools to navigate my emotions"
15:08 How did acting find you?
18:24 What triggered your mental health to spiral?
25:41 The impact of your dad's passing
32:39 The big lesson I learned from the passing of my best friend
40:08 Why should people try spirituality?
44:46 The birth of my son changed my life
47:47 The Office
54:45 What would be the cure for chronic dissatisfaction?
57:00 Does being grateful stop you from having a drive?
59:52 Ads
01:02:11 What do you struggle with?
01:05:59 The 12-step program that helped me & millions
01:12:20 What does your wife mean to you?
01:16:56 The last guest's question
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[@TheDiaryOfACEO]

What an honour to host Rainn Wilson on the show! If you enjoyed this conversation, please do me a little favour and subscribe to the channel - it really helps the channel and allows us to keep having these amazing conversations. Thank you so much 🙏

[@chrisd7733]

Something about the audio... Rainn is mostly much louder than the host here.

[@fraukebodinus9492]

well done. Thank you so much for your work!

[@thewhiterabbituk]

Please may we have some disabled people on the show?

[@poppinc8145]

Great interview. Why did you stop putting up the episode number on your video titles though? It started 3 months ago and hasn't been fixed since.

[@FirstdegreeProfessor]

What an incredible guest! And even better, what an amazing host! Your charisma, tone of voice, and genuine sincerity have turned binge-watching your episodes (remember when you said you didn't want anyone to watch?) into an absolute necessity. It's honestly a delightful guilty pleasure to witness how you connect with all your guests and delve into their thoughts and ideas.

[@deer105]

The Office is just so much more than a TV show to me and to many other people. It would never have been the same without Rainn.

[@fin183]

And wouldn’t even exist without Ricky Gervais

[@jameskelly9243]

I tried for years to watch this show. Is our intellect so low we consider this comedy? I don't wish ill will to any of the cast, BUT this show was low. Same low level as family man, Simpsons. I refused to allow my kids to watch these participation trophy shows and they're better person's for it.

[@sciencelabvideosl7558]

It was humorous in the sense that it showed the absurdity of working with surreal characters as you might do in real life. if you ever worked for a Michael Scott (especially the first season Micheal Scott) you’d understand it.

[@deer105]

@@jameskelly9243 You can't possibly have ever worked in an Office, which was the reason for its popularity. The brilliant satire and absurdity of Diversity Day or Fire Drill (both episodes) will go over your head.

[@usualsuspects42]

and why they let Steve go, I'll never understand.

[@RetroCrisis]

"Whenever I'm about to do something, I think, 'Would an idiot do that?' And if they would, I do not do that thing." - Something to live by

[@kaye.2574]

Don't shit, breathe and eat then :)

[@joannerossi8941]

I do something similar. With my diet. I ask would a fit person sit and watch tv all day? And would a metabolically healthy person eat this food? And then I try and do what they would do. Mostly. Or I binge breaking bad and eat sugar. Lol

[@erika33648]

Best Dwight quote ehvah!!!

[@skepticusmaximus184]

Just before I posted this comment I thought the same thing, but then I realised WAIT! An idiot wouldn't know the difference, so here we are. 🤪

[@usualsuspects42]

@@skepticusmaximus184 😄

[@slattisreal]

Dwight Schrute : “Thank you for acknowledging you owe everything to me”😎😂

[@sbhm1108]

Perfect ending !!!

[@supcharmica]

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[@LukasLife01]

The Office and its viewers are a one of a kind phenomenon. The show has probably saved lives

[@nellanellaperched6767]

100% mine. 31, I've seen it over 30 times. It's a familiar and really nice show. That's all I'll say 😂

[@topseykretts7608]

Well, he's certainly a product of "being rich for a decade" and years of high priced psychotherapy teaching him that he is a "victim" and his parents were "abusers". What a narcissist. His parents were working class people struggling to pay the bills while raising a child.....something he'll never have to experience....because he won the lottery with one successful audition.

[@pearlejam7115]

Yes. I definitely identified and just fully realized I have been rewatching my favorite comedies over and over bc for me the last 2 years have been so traumatic

[@KatieBeanz4eva]

It LITERALLY has. The "stress relief" CPR training for sure has. Jen Celotta (writer) said she wouldn't put anything in the show that wasn't true, and because of this - many have been saved. It's a wonderful thing. Never unfunny.

[@clovrmay3104]

Overrated. Everyone I've met that lives the office is an asshole

[@sebastiaanrothman7667]

I'm surprised Rainn isn't more buff -- after single-handedly carrying The Office Seasons 7 through 9...

[@Bforthepeace]

I was about to fight you but then I read seasons 7 - 9…. You right. 😅😂🤷🏿‍♀️

[@rowen0fstrata]

Overrated show and overrated character. You thought you did something

[@sebastiaanrothman7667]

@@rowen0fstrata False.

[@usualsuspects42]

I don't know what season it was in, but that scene where Dwight makes Jim go first through the door coming into someplace and goes on about how most attacks come from behind and Jim slaps him in the face before going through the door - I die everytime.

[@sebastiaanrothman7667]

@@usualsuspects42 7 out of 10 attacks :D Season 3 - Travelling Salesman

[@davidbohm271]

I don't want to sound dramatic, but I was in an almost psychotically poor state of mind when I started to watch this interview and just by listening to Rainn talk about his experiences in this beautifully eloquent and insightful way my spirits were lifted, I felt inspired and it cut off the pain I had been tortured by for the last few days. Thank you both for this.

[@pipthecat2389]

Me too I’ve shared this with everyone I love 💕

[@will4486]

That’s beautiful David! Be gentle with yourself and keep finding the things that nurture your spirit

[@user-gx6td8le7v]

❤

[@hilarykyekinder2038]

Thats lovely ❤

[@thepilgrimofinfinity4830]

Thanks for sharing, man. Take care.

[@erindennis9881]

I love how Steven always gives the guest time to form their thoughts and answer the question. He does not interrupt. He lets them take their time and fully complete their thought. This is one of the best qualities a person can have.

[@lightningscott5624]

Refreshing

[@user-md5be2mp8h]

He is a very good host and at that age!

[@ironside915]

"I am ready to face any challenges that might be foolish enough to face me." Thank you Rainn for bringing this extraordinarily and deeply fun character to us.

[@AlexanderBuck1973]

I love how his mum framed her question "Rainn you seem tightly wound up, what is going on in your heart?". Rainn has some great observations about the trauma of childhood and how parents don't always have the tools to be able to talk about emotions. I relate to him a lot and his lived experience. You can see how important his background is to his character development of Dwight in The Office.

[@NaomiVictorias]

I love Rainn in the Office but I have so much more respect for him now as a person too - he seems to have such great wisdom and insight. I could listen to him for hours!

[@TheRealJuseBeats]

I dunno. I thought so too but then someone said he had TDS?

[@jeanshelbybooks4154]

Rainn’s explanation of when his dad passed and seeing his body as a vessel is how I felt when I was with my dad when he died in June. Thank you for putting words to this feeling and experience.

[@kimbogal]

I know so many people who reflected this exact same perspective after seeing their loved one in a post life state. That they're no longer in there. The spirit has moved onto the next world.

[@timporter]

Couldn't agree more. My Dad passed way back in 2003 and when I saw him my first thought was that he wasn't there, it was just his shell.

[@jeanshelbybooks4154]

It’s a difficult thing to go through and I’m sorry for your loss. It something we all have to deal with in life and anything to help us through is good.

[@cillamoke]

The body is a cloak for the soul. I’d seen my Dad leave and only his body remained. That’s why I don’t visit his grave. He’s not there

[@timporter]

Couldn't agree more @@cillamoke

[@motiversity]

What an exceptional interview! 🔥 This is precisely the kind of dialogue that holds immense value for everyone. Thanks for shedding light on these important topics! 🙏

[@topseykretts7608]

Well, he's certainly a product of "being rich for a decade" and years of high priced psychotherapy teaching him that he is a "victim" and his parents were "abusers". What a narcissist. His parents were working class people struggling to pay the bills while raising a child.....something he'll never have to experience....because he won the lottery with one successful audition.

[@tahirisaid2693]

The Transamerica Center for Retirement Studies estimates that the average Baby Boomer has $202k saved up for retirement. According to the 4% Rule, this would result in a $8k annual retirement income. Judging by this I feel under pressure to get the most out of my $424k in savings. In order to increase my yields, I am in desperate need of guidance.

[@anastasiayurishcheva3692]

Absolutely blew my mind. So many things I’ve been thinking about in the recent years. What an insightful person ❤️‍🔥

[@AGoat1971]

He is a privileged man-baby.

[@Antinatalists_Unite]

It's easy to say you're glad terrible things happened to you when those times are finally over, and you're lucky to still be alive, without permanent damage. Lots of others aren't so lucky. Child abuse/bad parenting needs to be addressed so much more. It's probably society's #1 problem.

[@botanictradingcompany]

Through this pod I have decided to forgive my father.

[@eshamerita5970]

This comment is the prove that the pain and trauma distilled by love is turned into a powerful and precise medicine. May your forgiveness add to the light of the world and facilitate for others an easier and faster healing process. ... And, just so you know, through your words I have recovered the strength I thought I had lost since my father passed, five months ago. Thank you for that. May you, your father, Rainn, his father, Steven and the whole DCEO team be always blessed and protected.

[@kayladangelo2306]

I forgave my father a few years ago-I have no idea what you’ve been through but I’m proud of you. It’s really really fucking hard to process childhood trauma and come out the other side with forgiveness. It’s a journey that takes a looonnggg ass time, but it’s worth it.

[@Magani79]

that's amazing

[@usualsuspects42]

@@kayladangelo2306 We can forgive once we've been through the grieving process and really realize how and why they turned out as they did and weren't able to parent well. It doesn't invalidate the effect, the damage they caused and facilitated, but you start to see how it happened. You start to see how unfortunate it was that you were their child, and how unfortunate it was for them and you that they had the parenting and circumstances they did. It's the ability to stand back from it and observe it and understand it - separate from the damage it caused and still causes you - while also not invalidating what effect it had on you.

[@kahyui2486]

How do u do that

[@kpag3030]

I know exactly what he is saying talking about watching his father pass. I had the same feeling watching my niece get taken off of life support. It’s exactly like he said… it’s like they just leave and go somewhere else. Like… the body is just vacated and the being goes on. You feel it as they go. You feel the absence. It’s a very powerful experience. Terribly tragic and sad, but profound and weirdly comforting at the same time

[@amynazza]

That’s exactly what death is-just a passing of spirit. We all get to experience it someday. It’s all good but super difficult for those left behind.

[@Denversportsfan1]

Thank you for saying this, it’s a great reminder and somehow reminds me to keep hope that there’s something more to life than this dumb body. I’m sorry about your niece ❤

[@kpag3030]

@@Denversportsfan1 thank you. And yes… there is more. When we’re all done here, there is another adventure waiting. I truly believe this.

[@isabelles9205]

If there's only one thing that I learned by listening to this podcast, it's "Your past does not define who you are. The present and future are the only ones that matter, and the power is fully in your hands."

[@astrolab-333]

When the love of my life died from Cancer or actually a broken health care system I wanted to die also, if it wasn’t for the Office I might not be here. The power of that show’s ability to heal is beyond belief. ❤ Thanks you

[@DonTrump-sv1si]

The medical field is the number three leading cause of death in the USA

[@mehmeh_]

I suppose it's like Tetris in that regards, it helps people separate the trauma and then help them articulate in a sense. (Yes tetris supposedly helps with trauma)

[@aboutsharks]

Apart from my Christian faith, The Office has been a constant source of joy to me throughout my loneliest and most challenging times. I discovered it when I left home at 18 and had no friends. I’m still watching it 9 years on and have found friends for whom its also been a source of comfort and joy. It’s honestly one of the most wholesome and wonderful things created this century. And Dwight is my favourite character ❤️

[@rocketta.chique5761]

Same here. I work at a church and 90% of the staff loves it. Except for some of the older women LOL

[@zedwpd]

The entire show does? Or just a character or two? Isn't that like life? We may not like everything everyone does, but wouldn't Jesus want us to love anyway? Should I give up on life because some characters in my irl world do not represent my values and don't honor those things that I do? Doesn't Jesus say we are all sinners? It is not for us to decide which sins are worse than others. @@cocoa88

[@crystaltharrell]

I resonated with his story so much! 🥺 The childhood trauma, years of disassociation, panic attacks, etc.!! Instead of acting, I poured myself into academics and eventually "made it" as a student when I was accepted into an Ivy League doctoral program. However, I still wasn't happy. Spirituality later saved me at my lowest time, which is why I dedicated my research to helping people realize that their greatest wealth and health are internal. 💫

[@visi7891]

[real] spirituality is the real savior for everyone. you really get down to the nitty gritty of WHAT are YOU; and you answer that question... meet your maker. and you have no more deeper questions after that

[@malovina]

Bravo,keep on shining

[@victoriamacgregor9280]

Amazing ❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@Jess-xd7el]

Do you have any pointers on how someone can get started on this kind of spiritual journey? I’ve really struggled for years and spent 3 months inpatient this year because of my eating disorder & I think spirituality would really help me

[@Elfyja]

@@Jess-xd7el I would say, start by meditating. Know that whenever you search up spirituality, you will face a lot of guru's, but know that every single answer you need is inside you. They will simply remind you of what you already know deep down, that is why meditation, stillness and look within is where you can find all the answers, but we need a nudge from the external world sometimes, also as you cant seperate the two internal and external. That said it is nice to have a guide every now and then. Your spiritual journey will so to speak happen by itself, not by chasing it, but by being open and going towards what calls to you within. Its difficult to say with words and is something that must be experienced, and will differ also from person to person. Spirituality can be a way of connecting with your soul and disconnecting with the external wants and needs to make you happy, then coming back where you started but conscious in your ways. Simply seeing you are already rich in experiences, and the point is simply here and now. A great philosopher I would recommend that can maybe open your eyes is Alan Watts. There is several videos on youtube you can check out. There is also many nice audio books on audible you can check out. Some books ive been recommended in the " spiritual and self-help community": breaking the habit of being yourself, atomic habits, the surrender experiment, becoming supernatural, the seven spiritual laws of success. However you do not need a book, know simply you have the power to make the changes and be the best version of yourself within by simply being aware, observe, accept and make new choices from here on out. Ask yourself is this what the best version of myself would do? and dont be hard on yourself, get back into it, you got this ♥

[@LimitlessThinker]

The Office will always be iconic. The tension & competition between Jim and Dwight was always hilarious. Rainn is an incredible person and his honest & open conversation about the trials in his life, is amazing and inspiring!

[@pm5418]

I watch The Office back to back... Have been doing it for the past 4 years now. Rainn is hands down the best actor ever. Now knowing your story, I'm going to appreciate it even more. Thank you for fighting through all that trauma and giving the world this gift.

[@caitlynm.9413]

I do too! For the past 3 years. It's my safe and happy place, for sure.

[@Josh-py2pq]

Same. It’s my night routine before bed.

[@MarinerLain56]

The last week or so, the Office is what my husband and I go to sleep to. I love that it's just talking and no background music.

[@dwayneturner9395]

Yeah I can watch a marathon anytime it's on. That said, "best actor ever" and favorite actor ever are very different. Not sure Rainne could pull off Michael Corleone....js

[@karensimons9260]

It is no mystery to me that Rainn has suffered with much pain for so long. The intense loneliness and lack of nurturing causes a swiss cheese sort of foundation.

[@jameskelly9243]

Trama only makes u stronger if u survive

[@everlast4719]

Mmmmmm swiss cheese ❤🧡💛💚💙💜💟

[@usualsuspects42]

@@jameskelly9243 and most don't survive it.

[@DamianSzajnowski]

​@@jameskelly9243That's sadly blindly positive bs. Enough physical trauma, body will break. Enough psychological trauma, your mind will "break". Develop deep issues, problemsn coping mechanism to deal with that becoming maladaptive. Most of the trauma is unnecessary, from an utilitarian point of view but yes, if you already went through it, might as well try to get better and resolve it.

[@gingerindian1141]

He had no secure base.

[@MamaK1978]

The office is like comfort food. I have it on just as background noise bc it just makes my heart happy. Thank you Rainn!!!! You were the source of SO MUCH LAUGHTER for me AND my children. We love you!!!!!!

[@lucasbezerracruz9409]

YES! I put the office almost everyday before I sleep for the past 12 years.

[@Dhyatt61]

This is why Rainn has always been my hero. He is so down to earth, real, and honest. What an amazing human being!

[@FionnMcGinley]

Watched this after finishing the Office again on Prime, intersting to hear Rainn talk about his life, when he was talking about the office and being unhappy I couldnt help but think of Andy in one of the final episodes: "I wish there was a way of knowing your in the good old days when you are there"

[@dramirezs123]

So true.

[@mastershakelock]

Rainn is one of a kind. Takes a very unique individual to be this open and vulnerable with the world. Sharing his life long struggles with the human condition is a reminder were not alone in this. We're all experiencing and healing from very similar trauma's.. so thankful for you.

[@seame3795]

Amen

[@RaisingMyWildflowers]

Dwight is my absolute favorite television character ever. The character is like a combination of my mom's and dad's side of the family. When my son was given crappy prognosis, my family adopted a golden retriever and named him after Dwight. I'm so sad to hear that Rainn has had such a struggle - even if he's done well since.

[@Lily-hy1xu]

Thank you for having Rainn as a guest. I experienced the same with religion growing up, the hypocrisy and didn't want anything to do with the church, in my late 40's wanting God in my life and started my journey back.

[@blueberryhome8158]

I hope you find your way to Him!

[@Lily-hy1xu]

@@blueberryhome8158 Thank you ❤ Yes I have and I pursue him on a daily basis :)

[@kimjay7730]

I didn't expect to get so much out of this interview. I didnt know a lot about Rainn outside The Office. But truly this was one of my favourite interviews you have done. So much resonated with me, and of course you are the most consummate interviewer who really gets to the heart of all your guests with the most insightful questions

[@topseykretts7608]

Well, he's certainly a product of "being rich for a decade" and years of high priced psychotherapy teaching him that he is a "victim" and his parents were "abusers". What a narcissist. His parents were working class people struggling to pay the bills while raising a child.....something he'll never have to experience....because he won the lottery with one successful audition.

[@thcbdude]

Yeah me neither.. Abuse, addiction and all that. Then again, it is common for comedians, just like he said, to have a history of trauma

[@brockpifer9929]

It sounded like Rainn just didn’t wanna be tied down to just The Office. He wanted to have more roles than just Dwight. I understand the frustration as an actor of being tied down to one thing, when you feel that your job as an actor is to be versatile as you can. I totally understand it

[@humpy322]

I recognize myself in so much when you talk about your upbringing, this was healing to hear - if you are reading this Rainn, thanks so much for this interview and thank you for your stellar performance in The Office. Come by any time!

[@thewhiterabbituk]

I often wonder about the particular problems and challenges that come with being raised in the Bahá’í Faith.

[@MeadowDay]

Rainn,s eloquence is overwhelming, I could listen to him talk forever, he keeps the conversation riveting . Thank you so much for this, it’s helped me tremendously to see clearer

[@douglasrodriguez9762]

Pure, unadulterated arrogance! He thinks and acts like he's the king of the hill, and he's not. He's extremely talented, yes. No one would disagree, but arrogant to a fault.

[@segapc1994]

Wow that monologue on spiritual beings really hit me

[@RealityCheckTime]

I always watch The Office when I'm feeling down or depressed or anxious.

[@Guus115]

Same for Chandler Bing. He was near well suicidal during filming friends. Its always the funniest one that is in the most pain

[@faffinoodle]

This was a profound podcast. I have been searching for some kind of spiritual awakening since hitting 40 and Rainn's talk has given me a lot to think about.

[@JakobIsOkay]

Turn to Jesus and repent from sin

[@nahal999]

Rainn is actually a Baha'i and that is where he gets his inspiration. Check it out! 😊

[@faffinoodle]

@@nahal999 I’ve been researching since the podcast! It’s really interesting to read about ☺️

[@nahal999]

@@faffinoodle I'd be feeling pretty hopeless about the world and where it's going without it. Happy exploring!

[@chrismullin8304]

Either your mid-life crisis or peri-menopause, can help you find your spiritual awakening, whether you like it or not!

[@michellestuart5411]

Oh gosh. My soul needed this. I am in a bad place and this episode offered a light in the darkness. Thank you 🙏 so grateful ❤

[@seame3795]

SAME 🙏🏻❤️

[@aryabastani]

Currently binge watching The Office. This interview gave me a fascinating insight into what makes this great actor tick. Much respect.

[@Chef__AB]

enjoy arya!

[@nadia12398]

Rainn is absolute love

[@fraukebodinus9492]

this is so touching and relatable... thank you so much, Rainn...

[@melissaloves2draw]

This was such a heartfelt interview… I love getting to see actors in their own real skin… what an amazing and honest man. Thank you for getting him on your show.

[@jasonpyett7114]

There has not been a guest I could relate to more than Rainn. This was incredibly powerful for me. Thank you, Steven, and team for arranging this and thank you, Rainn, for your unvarnished candor.

[@Josephinejefferies]

I concur

[@ellastar6356]

As a mother to a young boy for me Rainn's share is also very valued and valuable. He sheds the light for me on the world as seen by a boy, young man, man of his disposition. He is so articulate and kind. I agree this is powerful. Thank You to all involved!

[@5uper5kill3rz]

I love anyone who didn't achieve success until they were older than I currently am, going from 21 just before Covid, full of optimism to now being 25, having achieved nothing of note since then is hard to face, I also watch The Office on repeat lol

[@KrimsonKracker]

I really love how Rainn talked about meditating on gratitude, and how it got him through some of the tough times. Gratitude is an excellent frame of mind to experience the world.

[@dannyt564]

I can relate with Rain so much and being on the other side of it along with him makes me that much more proud and glad we are both still here. Thank you for everything you did during the office btw. Truly one of my favorite characters in show history.

[@masudaghiasy949]

I could have listened for another 2-3 hours to Rainn speak. WOW - what an incredibly evolved human being. I will be listening to this talk again.

[@kamilaalimak]

absolutely eye-opening, compassionate and cuddling my soul conversation. One of my top 5 conversations you had.

[@angelanorsworthythomas3874]

This was such a beautiful interview and I’m so thankful that this conversation was shared with us. Rainn’s account of growing up in a sort of “religious gaslighting” household resonated so much. Almost 4 years into breaking down and working through the same things he mentioned, the religious and childhood traumas, and I’m finally starting to experience some healing and appreciation for this lifelong journey I’ve been on for 34yrs. Rainn’s insight and perspective on life is such a beautiful and inspiring thing. Again, thank you both sharing this!

[@JackoHooperMusic]

Don't often comment on KZbin videos but wow - What a treat. You articulated your admiration for his work at the end in such an earnest way. Felt like two people in an incredibly safe environment who were able to discuss things at a depth that people like Rainn need to showcase how brightly they shine. Wonderful work.

[@billhaney8160]

Another great guest by my favorite interviewer. The genius of this show is really the hard work that he puts in before hand. He reads their books, watches their interviews and does his homework so that he can take the interview to the next level.

[@sbddreamatrix7891]

Never knew Rainn Wilson was so aware of his own spirituality. I really enjoyed listening to his experience and his wisdom. I have a new appreciation for that man. Thanks again Steven, for another great video.

[@DocJeanneDagna]

What an incredible interview. Having taught many different students who came from traumatic/difficult/unstable/frightening family backgrounds, I can feel his resilience and growth just watching and listening to him. I love that he is so open talking about his depression and anxiety. Thank you for being such a wonderful actor and role model for so many.

[@MB-gv3zs]

This was a meaningful interview. It was an honor to learn so much about who Rainn is. I deeply appreciate his transparency.

[@patmc2916]

I fell in love with Rain Wilson's acting range when I saw the 2017 movie PERMANENT with Patricia Arquette, it's a beautiful movie. Rain is the father of the family and his acting is brilliant.

[@gypsyfree905]

That is amazing how he describes watching it, and that being the only thing he watched to help him heal. When I was in a six-year, narcissistic abusive relationship, and finally got the courage to leave, the only thing that got me through the next couple years, was watching the office I know every single episode. I’ve watched the whole series multiple times and still, of course watch it and that was eight years ago when that happened. Thank you!

[@SarahTalmadge]

Oh, my God...when Rainn was talking about his son, holding him for this first time... I don't have words to describe how touching that was.

[@janillingsworth7478]

I am addicted to your podcasts. I feel in love with everyone you interview at the end of each session. Thank you so much for the work you do Stephen.

[@lindakarner1430]

I grew up in a similar "christian" home, and as I grew I began to think, "If Christianity is true, it should work." Which is true. It turned out that my parents were "churchians" rather than true believers, and Jesus found me in my jr. year of college, and it does work! It's not a panacea, it's a relationship, and the goal of life isn't to be happy, but to know the truth that will set you free . . .

[@chalky_white]

The true power of God is so real when he reaches out to you like that! God Bless! 🙏🏼

[@graerindley6312]

"to know the truth" -- what is the "truth" you refer to? 😀

[@anaherajohnson1752]

Amen! 🙏

[@donnamoon8769]

I like that term “Churchians”. I live by the famous Saddleback Church. I attended for a while. I noticed so much hypocrisy. I was raised Catholic but often questioned that religion. The Priest scandals bothered me a lot. I realized that for me, my relationship with God is private. I work for a retirement community. I believe we are here to serve others. Unfortunately people like to boast and sometimes behave as religious posers. In the end, we have to figure it out for ourselves. Being kind and grateful is important.

[@danashaw2578]

So very well said. Thank you

[@krzysztofkrupowicz7145]

Thank you for recording this episode Steve. Amazing speaker and I learnt a lot about myself and found the right answers at the right time of my life. Appreciate it!

[@manib.]

I cannot explain how much I enjoyed listening to Rainn! It’s very refreshing to see someone else who illuminates such kindness, humility, and compassion. ❤

[@user-tr6zq6fp3i]

Rainn, It breaks my heart to hear you talk about your early childhood. I am so happy you found your way back to the Faith. Your willingness to be honest and open in sharing your story gives others HOPE.

[@TurdFerguson1234]

What an amazing interview, I had no idea that Rainn was so spiritual. It was balm for my soul to listen to these two men. Thank you ❤🙏

[@douglasrodriguez9762]

Pure, unadulterated arrogance! He thinks and acts like he's the king of the hill, and he's not. He's extremely talented, yes. No one would disagree, but arrogant to a fault.

[@mcedwards]

He's such an interesting person. He reminds me of Russel Brand in his pursuit and curiosity with spirituality and faith. I love conversations like this.

[@barometerbanner212]

Brand the grifting creep?

[@seame3795]

Nooooo not the same 2 souls. Russel is a facade. Rainn is the real deal.

[@GFmanaic]

Being exactly in the process of understanding my childhood traumas, it's very inspiring to see someone having gone through this at their pace and come out so successful.

[@LuzGuillen-nz8sn]

This made me cry. Rainn is such an intelligent and loving human. The way he spoke about death gave me such a different perspective on spirituality and death. I also admire his story. Great interview!!!!

[@lenasobe-mach1548]

This is the first episode of this podcast I have heard. English is my second language so sometimes I do not understand everything. But this episode, this guest...wow. amazing. This is absolutely marvelous that Rainn helped me just talking about his mental health. Thank you. I wrote down the quote about our spirits. I am so grateful and full of power.

[@stephenmcewan9995]

Without doubt, the most impactful piece I’ve ever watched!! What an absolute baller Rainn is. His words resonated so much with me and where I am in my life - as did your sharing of the profound impact that he had on your life Steve. Keep the great content coming 👏🏻❤️

[@FlowertheSpaceAlien]

Rain describing his last moments with his dad, sep by step, reminded me of my own experience.... including that last revelation about his Dad's light not being in the shell of a body in the end. Thank you for verbalizing what I relate to so deep inside my heart.

[@anabellafl9742]

I love how I listen to Rainn mostly. The interviewer leads but he never interrumps or adds phrases. Amazing work!!!!! 👏👏👏👏

[@starlingswallow]

Rainn, I'm so grateful that you came on here to share and be vulnerable ❤ It makes me like you even MORE!!

[@barborasebelova3118]

Steven and whole DOAC team, thank you for your work.

[@carolinagrasso4052]

I would never have imagined that I would hear the story of my life coming from Rainn Wilson's mouth. I guess coming from wherever we all come, we all are still so similar. Thank you Rainn Wilson for making me and my family laugh like crazy. We all love you for your art. In my particular case, thank you for speaking about you. I cannot believe the similarities! These exceptional occurrences help us see how others have endured... and if others have survived, we can too! right? THANK YOU!!!!!

[@3176sue]

Rainn, your story is so inspirational. Thank you for sharing. So many of us are also broken and it really gives hope listening to your story. 👍🏻❤️

[@bisondacierr]

Inspiring, probably a lot of people feel this at some point in their lives: you make it to where you dreamed to go but you never dreamed past those goals so you find yourself expecting joy and sense of achievement, the ultimate tranquility and peace of mind... but you fall into a crisis deeper than anything you experienced. Then you have to understand what really matters, learning to let those things go and what gives you purpose.

[@jessicamilliken1787]

This happened after I graduated from college. Thank you for putting this experience into these particular words.

[@liamhawkins6848]

His words on spituality to be heard, so beautiful.

[@theodorac2218]

One of the best interviews. Like a breath of fresh air. Thank you both for this amazing outcome and for sharing your experiences and thoughts.

[@sofiaaseff6511]

what an amazing interview. it filled my heart with spiritual wisdom. I have no words.

[@8VDSL8]

This is one of the best articulations of how I see life and I find so much comfort in knowing that other people get it and not everyone is completely closed off to the idea. Death as a finality is so simple. It's a misunderstanding of the intricacies that substantiate life.

[@AlisaDylan]

Oh my gosh! Such a great interview. Thank you for this incredible and iconic guest. ❤

[@billiehobbs5308]

I love the way rain describes grief and spirituality, so beautiful!!

[@ellastar6356]

I love how you listen, reflect back & the questions you pose.

[@Josephinejefferies]

My two favourite people come together to talk a whole lot of sense. Thank you

[@Fiona-sg9wh]

I'm a former ICU nurse who is now a hospice nurse. I'd say my thoughts are very similar to Rainn"s. I have had a similar journey in many ways. This very thought that we are spiritual beings having a human experience is what allows me to be okay with witnessing what I see in my daily life. The witnessing of death and the human drama. I call it the game of life which many do as well. I am not a religious person but I did grow up both with the Lutheran and Catholic religions. They never resonated with me as my truth but as a human belief. I also see the divine in my kids, nature, trees, my pond, and death. It is what brings me joy, but there is fear at times that creeps in which I guess is just part of the human experience. The connectedness to everything is what also brings me joy. Thanks for sharing this interview. I love your channel.

[@barbaralee9845]

It's difficult to measure in this current world how important it is to have two men conversing on subjects of so much profundity, allowing themselves to be openly vulnerable and not sidestepping anything painful. This is a beautiful interview. Thank you

[@KiLovely]

Wow that interview was absolutely amazing!!! I've watched every minute of it. I love Rainn even more!!!💛

[@trystandavies2469]

only started the office this year, it's now my favourite sitcom. Thank you Rainn, Dwight was a genius of a character

[@Avaaaw]

I mentally broke down around the same age as Rainn - I come from the same environment. I’m 29 yo now and I literally feel like life has brought me to my knees. It was so helpful to hear him say that this suffering has a purpose and that it gets better. Thank you for this interview!

[@giulianapetrolitod9430]

I love this interview so much. thank you for having such a wonderful and wise soul 🩵

[@missybelmont9830]

What an amazing interview! Stunning insight into this wonderful man's soul. Thank you both for this deep and thoughtful exchange. Much love to you both! God bless ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤big fan of Rainn, now I love him even more...

[@98265]

I needed to hear this today ❤, especially with my father's recent passing.

[@TheFaithfulColumnPodcast]

I was not expecting the value this video would end up providing. Thank you both.

[@patrickconway.ENDELOS]

Thank you Rainn for this interview, sharing your story and your inspiring words! 🙏

[@juliesherbondy482]

That surprised me. I am so happy he found joy. He was beyond spectacular in the office.

[@abbyblueco]

"It's all just static" Fantastic analogy. Thank you for being vulnerable and open with the world, Rainn. 💙

[@marniebrimhall986]

Beautiful conversation with such concise and clear points. Thank you both very much.❤

[@fssstyuniaf]

Thank you very much for this wonderful conversation. Genuinely one of the best podcast episodes I've ever seen.

[@andrewah15]

I can completely relate to what he said about his dad passing. I felt exactly the same way when my mother passed away 5 years ago, from cancer.

[@petite__cata]

Rainn says “stick around we’re going to talk about the office” as I EVEN CARE ABOUT THAT. I love the office but I love much more Rainn. It’s such an inspiring thing listening him talking about life and spirituality.

[@eej1983able]

I love hearing him talk about anything. He could read the newsletter aloud

[@henrybarrientos3373]

Thank you so much for this interview 🙏 ❤️. Rainn Wilson, thank you so much for sharing all of this really learn alot watching this.

[@mrich9654]

I’ve watched the office over and over again, what a special show and Rainn brought sooooo much joy to everyone. What a gift !

[@followthebradleysfun]

I appreciate Rainn coming on the show and engaging in this discussion. Thank you.