Raising Baby Discus: Preventing the 30 Day Syndrome

How do you stop the infamous 30-day syndrome when raising baby discus fish? We use potassium permanganate. In our hatchery we have a 200-gallon system and based on my measurements, we use two grams for the entire system. We're going to show you how we do it in our system but remember one thing - this is for the professionals and your measurements will be different.
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[@nikhilparab07]

I haven't seen such a genuine person sharing his knowledge with all the hobbyist

[@nikhilparab07]

How long does a discus pair breed in its lifetime...does it breed for 1-3 yr or like 10-20 times in life???plz ans...

[@ow8792]

@@nikhilparab07 15 weeks a year for lifetime of 10 yearspan

[@braveheartreefer525]

The best information on KZbin or anywhere for that matter on how to successfully keep and breed Discus thanks for sharing your knowledge Gabe

[@Roon282]

Thankyou. Sir kindly make a video of treating planted discus tanks with potassium permanganate, and tell us the proper dosage of PP which will not damage the boilogical filters🙏

[@anuradhakasunpremathilaka9608]

He is the best person in KZbin for the fish keepers

[@Nj-pk]

Always appreciate your honesty and support Gabe, thanks alot.

[@rajadey4919]

So according to the video footage..for 100 gallon = 1 gram of Potassium permanganate. For 150 gallon = 1.5 grams. For 50 gallons = 0.5 grams. And if we canister filter and not sump, then directly in the tank?. And how much hydrogen peroxide per 100 gallons of water. Your footage is always reliable and compact with knowledge based information. Thank you sir.

[@lucifermorningstar-lk9ow]

Thanks sir...your video is very helpful it teaches stuffs which no one says and that too in such a simplified manner 🙏🙏 from INDIA.

[@professorm4171]

For home hobbyists, you can just use hydrogen peroxide. It is an oxidizer like PP but a bit safer and doesn't stain. I dose 5ml/10 gallons. You can kill fish if you dose too much.

[@tilozoru1255]

Hi Gabe! Incredible! Already did the math for a 75 gallon tank... thanks so much. Love your channel and your facility! Oh yeah, especially your fish!

[@rmmc5554]

Hi, how many grams then? TIA

[@kernalbert4939]

@@rmmc5554 That's not the issue. One gram per 100 gallons equals .75 grams for 75 gallons. The issue is Permanganate kills everything including your nitrifying bacteria. Commercial guys can use the stuff because they do MASSIVE water changes CONSTANTLY.

[@amysweetfood3033]

do you sell potassium G?

[@Bigpoecilia]

Thanks Gabe. You are doing a lot for the hobby.

[@kennyfol]

Thanks gabe! You are amazing my friend!

[@dr.geonigermansoundaram6405]

Waiting for your new video, english version gabe..... make videos regarding fry attaching to albino discus. Thx for ur genuine vidos

[@pgm521]

Thank you GABRIEL POSADA at Jack Wattley for sharing this. I have been using this system and my Discus do not have 4 week syndrome anymore. It took forever to learn this step by step from friends and the little i found to read about it, hence why I appreciate hearing it from you. Hardly any info about this magical treatment out there especially neutralizing with hydrogen peroxide.. Very much appreciated

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

No secrets any more. I am here to promote the hobby not bury it.

[@pgm521]

@@JackWattleyDiscus That is correct and I know this as all your videos including metro, lowering PH and lots more you have shared is some of the hardest things i have hard to learn in this hobby over the years, hearing you explain so well instills the confidence to go ahead with what I do and correct, perfect, what I am doing. Really wish I met you a few years back :) Thank you kindly

[@josemontalvo4532]

Excellent tutorial on the medicine! I enjoyed watching! Thank you for sharing! Gracias!

[@valeriekucharski7603]

This guy is great

[@bike5200]

Gabes the best !!

[@BC-uu6iz]

your expertise is off the charts, do pls keep up the great work and knowledge cause no one i can find to share this on the net!!!! tk you Gabriel

[@Holger-ki2cc]

No.1 on KZbin! Thank you for your Videos.

[@robertmorales125]

Best discus guy ever

[@huanly7517]

Hi Gabriel.thank you for your information. I m from Vietnam

[@gunnerneikoify]

It is awesome that you share your knowledge with us. Most places like yours keep all their knowledge, tips and tricks to themselves. Definitely a top quality place you have their Gabe and your videos are deeply appreciated!!!!

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

My pleasure. Sharing makes the hobby grow. Also more enjoyable.

[@gunnerneikoify]

@@JackWattleyDiscus You are 100% why I've recently gotten into the Discus hobby 4 months ago!!

[@shamalnandana1728]

Love the work you do. Such a humble and great personality

[@johnbrand1893]

Fascinating insight that’s crucial for the baby Discus survival rates. 👏👍

[@spencerh.5830]

Thank you so much Gabe. God bless.

[@ychsing12]

Thank you so much for your generous posting, wish you and your team have a great holiday and brilliant 2022.👍👏

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Thank you for your time.

[@abinasht.7061]

Here's a dosage. 2gm for 200 gallon = 10mg for gallon. Use in your own risk.

[@thani9826]

how much hydrogen peroxide ?

[@P4hko]

@@thani9826 8-35 ml of 3% solution of hydrogen peroxide per 50 liters of water seems to be the safe range when doing a little bit of research (but problebebly not enough). But doing it in a bare tank whit no algae and whit sensetive fishes like discuss I would assume you would have to be on the lower side of the scale. Seem to be a fair bit to take into consideration for getting a fair answer

[@adjustergirl]

Thanks Gabe!! You're a straight up good dude.

[@adhiwiratama6972]

Thx mate.. u r an angel on this aquatic world..

[@CaptainBarbers]

Lovely Gabe. Thanks mate

[@SuperMan-xy8ui]

Thank you for these videos!!! It should be mentioned that potassium permanganate will also kill beneficial (nitrifying) bacteria.

[@peetventer4744]

I was thinking the same thing and assumed that it would not be recommend for a planted community tank.

[@andrehunter1295]

With so much water change for baby fish, don't need any cycled filter.

[@ManuelMartinez-pq3un]

Buenas noches, soy un principiante de discos y la verdad me parece muy buenos vídeos y bien explicados. El único inconveniente que no entiendo inglés y me cuesta mucho intuir lo que explicas. Tienes vídeos en Español y son buenísimos, por favor hazlos en los dos idiomas. Gracias y un saludo desde España

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

El mismo en Español sale en tres días. Estamos haciendo todos lo vídeos en los dos lenguajes

[@kidtuber3407]

Love every single one of your videos. you are truly a savior Gabe

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Wish I had more time to make more. Soon.

[@bigpickles]

@@JackWattleyDiscus I wish I could work there and free up your time for more content ;)

[@yasinpasta1247]

Thank-you for sharing this!!! Awesome video!!

[@aldrintumbiga4413]

Thanks Gabe

[@ankushkaul6909]

I must thank you from bottom of my heart for sharing valuable knowledge.

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

It's not a hobby if you cannot enjoy it.

[@ankushkaul6909]

@@JackWattleyDiscus true ✌

[@deb12345able]

Thank you for sharing this information.

[@gabesaquatics8495]

Well done Gabe! ure a Legend, mate!

[@AsifArain15]

With love from Pakistan. I appreciate your work and specially for the secrets you share to grow our discus in home systems.

[@michellegibson3899]

Wow thanks sunshine.

[@unlowyer]

You are an amazing Man gabriel. İm addicted discus for many years. Im so sory to know you very late. Im very excited to see Your new video

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Thanks

[@sujoysaha8542]

Nice video posada!

[@alexandrevicopulos6909]

Thank’s very much for that very important information! What ‘s the percentage of the peroxide? Thank’s once more, master!

[@ErikLarsson136]

Crystal clear

[@minisplitsuperstore]

...you are the man bro... / ...tu eres un caballo hermano...

[@dayankkumarasinghe]

Thank you so much Gabriel (Y)

[@asatryankaren1707]

Thanks Gabe for detailed description. Like Your channel👍

[@estebanvalencia2989]

Hola Gabriel, por favor realiza este video en español, es muy importante aprender este tratamiento para la comunidad disquera de habla hispana, muchas gracias.

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Paciencia!

[@ManuelMartinez-pq3un]

Muchas gracias. Los disfrutaré mucho y aprenderé lo bonito del mundo del pez disco.

[@miladyspadillaferrer5717]

Excelente encontrar los vídeos en español e inglés

[@raulruela8510]

Me podría pasar el link en español

[@cicco1838]

Awesome work you guys thank you for video...

[@richardrobles3880]

am really new to this hobby and your topic is really informative to us newbies. I actually had a flowerhorn but died few months ago due to fluke. I used liquid treatment like Prazi Gold but found no positive result from it and he got weaker and weaker as day went by and i feel so helpless about it. Ill gonna treat my whole tank including my canister filter with PP to kill those nasty parasites before I set it up again. Thank you Sir :)

[@Toxxxic_]

crystal clear

[@gezeb8323]

Hi and thank you for your video from France :)

[@luisperez-ruiz1173]

Tremendo!!!! Sabes más de medicina que yo!!!!

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Oye no es para tanto.🤣🤣

[@beverlyballard2882]

Thank you....would LOVE to retire in a hatchery!!!

[@aquaadamsale]

Hello sir ur videos are very informative I have a 120 litre tank at my place And have 9 discuss in there around 2.5 inches Few of them fins are clamped and 2 of them have turned black in color also i saw today one or two scratching there body and shaking their head

[@BC-uu6iz]

Tk you for the wealth of info you are giving us, may I ask how we can do it at home and if I can use it to clean bio media, driftwood, etc. asking cause I'm setting 1k gal tank and I'm using same media from my old tank. Tks again

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

No need to desinfect if you're setting up new.

[@rodrigoscarface4586]

Estaría de lujo que hicieras los videos también en español...🙏🙏🙏saludos desde la ciudad de México....

[@joaquincaamano3528]

somos 2! jajaja

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Todos los estamos doblando. El mismo video sale en dos días.

[@joaquincaamano3528]

@@JackWattleyDiscus Genial! Saludos desde Chile!

[@rodrigoscarface4586]

@@JackWattleyDiscus muchísimas gracias🙏🙏🙏realmente admiro tu canal y gracias a el he aprendido mucho sobre los discos....

[@milagrosvalcarcelcordoba7376]

Muchas gracias, por su trabajo, y gracias a usted podemos tener la suerte de poder disfrutar de estos peces.un saludo desde España 😘😘😘

[@Joricano]

I like how you guys are not hiding trade secrets from everyone. Doesn’t PP kill the beneficial bacteria?

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Not if used correctly. Listen to what I say in the video.

[@Joricano]

I’ve used this but will never use it in a system. Nice video

[@antoniosalazar6011]

wow.... U r the Boss ...!!!!

[@DrivingDynamix]

Thanks Gabe !👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌

[@mudassirmm6110]

Very informative.

[@mypraveer]

That was good knowledge .

[@MrMayurahire]

Amazing

[@arupmukherjee4110]

hats off man

[@juanitodecastro2444]

Great teacher @gabriel posada

[@user-ke5jy1od2w]

Thanks

[@luckyaquaticworld1144]

Very helpful video sir Thankyou

[@jaybui7506]

Very interesting.

[@joop6045]

Hello everyone! Hope someone can help. I have a 90 liter aquarium with discus fry. How can I calculate, in European standards how much pp I should use and how much I have to add to the 1 liter bottle and how many ml I should add to the aquarium? Hope somebody can help me out. 1 fry is already dead.. 😭

[@halestormdoeverything5933]

I had bunch breeding pairs n got the 30 day syndrome n all my babies died basically gave up kept happening great info

[@darnellfisher4148]

Hello Gabe. I know I'm coming in late. You said each week but for how .any weeks? I'll check the other questions to see if my question has been answered.

[@jeraldrice3583]

Your very smart and informative

[@vikrampatil6087]

GREAT..........

[@aprilgopidolstvwonder6076]

Tnk u for sharing this info sir gabe..

[@juanmafishdiscuscanarias5889]

Don Gabriel cuando usted, nos lo traduce en la lengua de Cervantes. Gracias y saludo

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Subscribete al canal y verás el mismo vídeo en Castellano.

[@swissworld36]

Thanks a lot Gab

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

My pleasure.

[@todortodorov1710]

Hi Gabe, greetings from London. Thanks for the great videos you giving to us! Can I use this method in tank with grown up discus? Thank you!

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Yes you can

[@todortodorov1710]

Thank you!

[@howtoaquarium7990]

Good morning everyone 15 babies die a day Baby’s One month old Ph = 5.5-6 TDS= 07 KH = 53-107 Cl. =. 0 Gh = 53 No2 = 0 No3 = 25 Food = baby’s brine shrimp (live food) and Chen’s beef heart Temperature 30.5 😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😭

[@richardluke7050]

Hi Gabe thanks for the share good info of video. Just a quick one u said once a week and how long need to carry on to do. And would it affect for good beneficial (nitrifying) bacteria.Many thanks

[@benaqua10]

When should i do first pp treatment for discus fry...

[@souvikghosh3369]

Please give a vedio with details information how to treatment a discus fish suffering from "Swime bladder disease"

[@sureshpoojari180]

Thank you sir

[@vishvadharmadasa8272]

it's awesome,,,,, superb

[@aquamanaquafishes3931]

Superb well explained informative 🔥👍🙏

[@mhbirdfd]

I had successfully got to the free swimmers stage and suddenly lost all of them in one night. Ammonia spike because I did the PP treatment and it killed my nitrogen cycle. Tough lesson but take the foam sponge filter and anything your using for biomedia out during the treatment.

[@vovw8459]

Gracias por el contenido, saludos desde España. Estaría de madre si lo recopilases todo en un libro. Te forrarías.

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Estamos entre tantas cosas con esa misma idea. Gracias

[@vovw8459]

@@JackWattleyDiscus Gracias a usted , me encantan sus videos. De los mejores caneles de youtube de acuariofilia, me han resuelto muschas dudas. Sigan así y que vaya todo muy bien.

[@elpile]

Me encantaría este video en español

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Dame dos o tres días para subirlo

[@DAMITH250]

Well explained thanks 🙏 Is it safe to use PP with catfish/scaleless fish to treat flukes.

[@scientific1603]

your so geniuses , I'm from sri lanka thank you

[@muhammadumairali2243]

Thank you Gabe. You are amazing. BTW how much concentrated is hydrogen peroxide u used?

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

3% is fine

[@muhammadumairali2243]

@@JackWattleyDiscus Thank you. Is it really necessary Hydrogen Peroxide or we can just change the water ? I recently got successful with my breeding pair, and literally was afraid to give babies pp bath. btw they are 4 weeks old now

[@muhammadumairali2243]

@@JackWattleyDiscus one more question? wont pp kill all the beneficial bacteria in the sump ? So, would it be good practice to do in stable tank ?

[@irfanmoosani7771]

Gabe, thanks for sharing this information. My Flowerhorn fish is behaving very lethargic and keeps sitting at bottom or at top. He is not eating since last 10 days. I added about 1 mg of PP in a 1 gallon bucket and kept the fish in it for 20 minutes with good airation. The water was still purple but I removed the fish. Is it the right way? How often should I repeat this process and for how long? Please guide.

[@rogermoody2660]

Irfan Moosani it’s for the experts not the home guy!

[@drpabloricardo1695]

Very good video, but the potassium permanganate don't kill your sump benefical bacteria?

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

Not if you use it like I did. This way the reaction takes place in the aquarium and what goes down the overflow is already mostly deactivated

[@normanrobitaille8520]

First of all I just wanted to say I absolutely love your channel I have a question how old do the baby discus need to be before I can give them a PP bath

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

From the time they're laid. I don't stop my cycle at the hatchery it is done on a regular basis regardless of how old the fry are. Thanks.

[@aruns9835]

How to treat single 50 liter capacity tank with pottasium permaganate

[@sheshtapsi3409]

Use a pinch of pp in a jug of aquarium water. Stir it well. Try pouring the mixture in your tank bit by bit. Until the water turns purple.

[@brucesyvertsen2147]

Great Info. When using Hydrogen Peroxide, do you use the 3% or 12% solution? Hopefully you put this and all the other great tips and info in a book one day! I would be the first in line to buy it! 🙂

[@rjv2395]

Thank you for the great video and great info exchange. if possible, can you pls be a little more specific about the ppm concentrations you are using for both the KMnO₄ and the H2O2. It would help to make sure viewers get the dosages right. Also, what is the concentration of H2O2 you are using, (food grade 30%?) Thank you again for your professional tours.

[@JackWattleyDiscus]

3% H2O2 use 28 grams per liter of pp for stock solution and 5ccs per 100 liters.

[@rjv2395]

thank you so much for the fast reply. just found your channel and really enjoying the videos. I was really into breeding discus about 25yrs ago and Mr. Wattley's handbook of discus was the go to source before the internet. maybe I need to get crazy again. thank you again for your fast response and great info.

[@nadeemshah5613]

Love from India

[@NotAsTraceable]

I raised discus for years and gill flukes are a true menace.

[@nishanthafonseka6191]

Hi Gabe. Congratulations for the service you do for discus enthusiasts. I would like some advice please. I am a discus rearer and new to the hobby. I have 2 40 gallon tanks that I have 6 checker boards and 7 powder blues in seperately in each one. I wanted to age my water which comes fr9m a dug well. I have a 500litre plastishell tank. In the process of aging can, and should i use your method of pp + hydrogen peroxide to disinfect the water I age a tankful at a time?