Raising of the New South African Flag

[@ReinhardtHamman]

Thank you so much for this. The guy taking down the old flag and putting up the new flag is my dad.

[@antoniocoppola7833]

Great pleasure! Wow, that’s great!

[@IntenseGamer17]

Cool

[@AI-hx3fx]

Your family must be very proud to have him be part of history. Literally, an era changed in his hands.

[@almos-bendeguzarany9274]

What a honor to be a part of history!

[@AGirlNamedVan]

Die stem is actually beautiful... Just considering the Afrikaans language. Not apartheid or oppression.., just the words thereof🇿🇦❤️

[@makedonas_ellhnas]

Both melody and lyricwise it is one of the most beautiful anthems ever adopted by a country in the history of mankind , I have no connection to South Africa at all but every time I hear it I get emotions

[@AGirlNamedVan]

@@makedonas_ellhnas yeah the melody too. It's beautiful

[@makedonas_ellhnas]

@@AGirlNamedVan What I say might sound crazy but I wish I was the pm of my country to adopt this melody as our anthem

[@ATIMELINEOFAVIATION]

Agree, it’s peaceful and beautiful 🇿🇦

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

@@AGirlNamedVan Die Stem made me learn Afrikaans despite me not needing it to understand (I'm Dutch)

[@hermandormehl8827]

Ek was 15 jaar oud. Ek was vasgenael voor die televisie, en het snot en trane gehuil.

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

Don't speak afrikaans a.k.a. racist language here!!! Go away you racist

[@blood5096]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis fuck off. Your the one in the wrong. Afrikaans is a beautiful poetic language.

[@Helgardt6189]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis It takes one racist to notice another one,just very strange that Afrikaans is spoken by black and coloured people as well.Think before you speak.

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis discrimination is an interesting thing

[@lol-iv1ft]

@@Helgardt6189 English is the most spoken language in the world and the brits were imperialists and racists yet no one cares today. English is spoken by Black,whites and coloureds and no one cares even though it was the language of racists and imperialists. That same principle goes for Spanish,Russia,Chinese etc who all did the same thing. What makes Afrikaans special?

[@rizaradri316]

While apartheid is bad, I do think South Africa is better back then. I wish South Africa will have a competent leader in the future.

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

And Afrikaans as a uniting language rather then the unpatriotic English

[@adorabasilwinterpock6035]

Black gold and green are the colours of the ANC

[@rk-pv2hl]

Same thing I thought

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

​@StarOfDavid444 yes. Afrikaans is easy to learn and something of South Africa (and Namibia). English doesn't work as a uniting language because not all South Africans have English ancestry unlike the US, UK, Australia etc. Afrikaans is only Southern Africa. Afrikaans is also a language that is sproken throughout the country. Not only in one place unlike for example Zulu. Which is basically only in Kwazulu-Natal

[@joseenriquejoson1994]

Hope so. Ngl, I respect South Africa for their reputation in Rugby

[@matthewdooley9046]

I love the detail in the new flag how they mixed the red from the Union Jack and the orange from the old flag, so it incorporates both Britain and Holland. Lovely little touch.

[@theminista4499]

Not lovely, its a huge compromise

[@hanoiboy9839]

Afrikaans is a beautiful and rich language !!

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

How can you said it's beautiful when it was use for fascist apartheid?

[@hanoiboy9839]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis The lexicon of Afrikaans is excellent and the vocabulary is more vivid and modern than the Dutch language. I like the syntax too of Afrikaans. All of that has nothing to do with Apartheid. Afrikaners are not fascists. The ANC was a terrorist organization and Mandela was also a terrorist that is why he was sentenced to jail in the trials. So in your view Zulu, Tswana etc. are all terrorist languages?

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis ah so German is also outlawed because it was nazist, it was imperialist, it was communist, it was Eurosceptic, it was Pro-Europe etc. All bullshit. Mandela himself was able to speak Afrikaans. And it's a beautiful language.

[@BMan78]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis English was imposed on many colonialized nations around the world, much more than the Dutch lol

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

@@BMan78 That doesnt mean it can't be beautiful. Honestly, I love my language. And to see someone call it ugly because a handful of racists use it is just strange. Remember that is were the Afrikaners who abolished apartheid in a referendum. Afrikaans sal nooit doodgaan nie! Afrikaans sal bly!

[@karabotsotetsi8471]

After reading the comments I have come to conclude that south Africans who were born in the 20th century will never be in peace with each other as long as that era is engraved in their memories,those who wished for the era to end...and those who wished for the era not to end will never form the dream of a United nation...those who were born in the 21st century, Those who only know the history from the history books are the only ones who will create the ideal nation.

[@jl63023]

This is a double edged sword as there are many edgy people here who certainly weren't alive for apartheid blindly supporting it despite knowing full well how oppressive it was. Imagine people believing that "security and prosperity" is worth depriving a whole people civil rights and basic standards of living, and seeing nothing wrong with that

[@GabrielZuc]

​@@jl63023You are describing the ANC government. People who support that time are not because of racial segregation. but rather because of the prosperity and sovereignty that existed at that time, and since the rainbow flag was raised, there has never been again.

[@jl63023]

@GabrielZuc There was "security and prosperity" for some because the black majority was never entitled to it. The first time many had the chance to have running current was probably after that same ANC government you despise came into power

[@Brecconable]

@@jl63023 Apartheid didn't destroy SA, the Afro-Nazi Commies did.

[@AI-hx3fx]

Electrifying. Alongside the change of flag, it's also interesting to see how the present anthem evolved from the parts the choir presented.

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

Both the modern flag and the anthem are combinations of the ANC and existing RSA/NP.

[@SkrawnCPT]

The green of the new flag is from the South African republic flag, together with the red white and blue which also represents the British. They might have tried to make the old flag illegal but most of the old colours live on in the majority of the new flag. Just using different shapes has disguised how much of the old colours are still in the new flag, and not alot of people who were against the british and boere have taken notice. I'm actually quite surprised that this flag has not also been banned for the majority of colours it still represents. I guess the boere and British live on.

[@gerritkruger4014]

not really, everybody attributes to the flag what they like, if you look hard enough youll probably find the ANC, Transvaal, Vrystaat, British, New dutch, you name it flag, but its because of the amount of colours, you can even say the amount of colours simbolises diversity. But thats just it, speculation. We officially do not have a strict meaning behind the colours, and im actually glad. Still you can make what you want with it

[@AlbertvWyk]

When looking at the representation in the work place, the choir, the podium and even the crowd, etc. in this video, it is clear to see that what is being said about 25 years ago, is not completely what the reality was... Thank you for sharing this with us.

[@antoniocoppola7833]

Albert van Wyk Great pleasure! Good observations!

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

Afrikaners started it all with apartheid. So enjoy your karma ;)

[@AlbertvWyk]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis ag jou poes man!

[@AlbertvWyk]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis 😂😂

[@thesmithersy]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis No need to go after all white people in a poor attempt at petty revenge.

[@southafricandominion]

the commentators should have done their homework. The flag from 1910 to 1928 was a red ensign not a union jack

[@eduardo-ku8iq]

Die Stem van Suid Afrika was a great national anthem and reflected the heritage of those who brought civilization to South Africa

[@bubbedebub]

And infact modern SA still uses it as a part of the whole anthem

[@darjuz96]

Two stanzas of actual sa anthem is from old sa anthem

[@cantillanovictor]

Respect from Chile.

[@Hans1871_AndSchnitzel]

aww man i miss this :( i hope it will go back

[@Shujaa24]

I recommend the Netherlands then

[@Hans1871_AndSchnitzel]

@@Shujaa24 not a bad choice... But flag or no flag of the old south africa, i still love my country!

[@Shujaa24]

@@Hans1871_AndSchnitzel I agree that South Africa is currently going down the shitter under the ANC it's just that I can't stand when folks are nostalgic about a regime that deprived a majority of basic civil rights just cause of their skin color...like you built a country in Africa why are you mad about the Africans living there?

[@emirvmendoza]

1:48 the current President?

[@YuusukeOnodera]

Yes, Ramaphosa was a negotiator back then.

[@graemetm8109]

We were a first world country and military strong under the old flag.

[@lazer_kiw1]

Lol no you weren't, the majority of the population was treated like dog shit. First world my ass.

[@AA-ek5kz]

@The Jurassian lies

[@lazer_kiw1]

@The Jurassian No shit, the Boers owned all the farms.

[@virginiansupremacy]

The Jurassian it was from gold mining and other mining industries in general

[@graemetm8109]

@Nandadulal Das and now it is destroyed....

[@rocksandforestquiver959]

The South African Red Ensign was nice, I know not everyone's into those but I liked the old Union of South Africa coat of arms that showed the arms of the 4 united colonies - in the same style as Canada had used following its confederation 40 years earlier.

[@randiekay4994]

I liked the flag where the black hand and white hand shook hands.

[@drbruh3567]

The old ZA flag looks so much better, not because I’m a racist or anything, but because the current South African flag looks like something straight out of a 5 year old’s colouring book.

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

I think you should be able to sing Die Stem and love the old flag without shame. Those two are no symbols of racism.

[@spheleleNgubane-wf4de]

Well the old flag was made and designed on racism itself.So not changing it would have looked very bad,and in my opinion the new and current flag is very beautiful.

[@Snowflame512]

@@dutchafrikaner1204I absolutely agree!

[@Snowflame512]

@@spheleleNgubane-wf4deboo

[@Snowflame512]

@@spheleleNgubane-wf4deboo ANC sucks

[@carlinkag2525]

I love our new anthem and new flag. I'm so proud of all the South Africans who fought for democracy and freedom of all citizens.

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

@Daniel Salvador democracy is great. Corruption isnt. If South Africa followed De Klerk and Mandela's ideas, there would be fewer problems and maybe load shedding wouldnt be as worse as it is now

[@phillipleboa5251]

GO HAVE YOU HEAD EXAMINED. YOUR'E REALLY SICK.

[@MadGames2007]

Rest in peace... Og S.A

[@SABOMBTECH]

En nou is dit n fokken grap! Goeie werk! Alles is in sy moer!

[@xmanykl4400]

South African girls are very good looking. God bless them all.

[@ctoid]

It's been 30 years. I wonder if those who cheered when the flag was being lowered regrets now.

[@yacvm]

I think they do

[@thesmithersy]

I am sure that they do

[@vincenta_2]

God was not pleased. Notice how the Union of South Africa flag waved with the wind quite strongly, compared to the new flag, which was completely static.

[@matthewdooley9046]

Yeah because the wind speed changes?

[@jonnathan1869]

May I ask? Did you record this?

[@alternated122]

he didnt dude thats from some clips he downloaded then uploaded

[@antoniocoppola7833]

Yes I recorded it myself on VHS.

[@marcox2937]

The beginning of the end of South Africa

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

Shut up you racist afrikaner!

[@marcox2937]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis I ain’t an Afrikaner u donkey

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

@@marcox2937 then why do you think that South Africa ended when they changed the flag? Apartheid era is a horrible era and only racist afrikaners want it back

[@liampetersen7548]

Tsek

[@alternated122]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis not all people who wanted the old south africa are racists i do like the old south africa but i dont like the apartheid

[@allanwebb2541]

WHY IS EVERYIONE AGENST APARTYD

[@geno8774]

Apartheid was better everything was working in south africa and there was jobs for everyone , there was no loadshedding and the country was need and clean back then , now its a disgrase nothing is working and so dirty

[@supmodel]

Because the people here are idiots.

[@jl63023]

​@@geno8774 Better for everyone except black people... seems you forgot that part

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

​@@jl63023fun fact: apartheid was BETTER for the regular black man. Why? There were jobs, aside from the townships there was good housing for the blacks. Blacks could live in their own nation state protected by South Africa. Yes the system wasn't perfect. Far from it. But sadly better then modern apartheid, so called black empowerment. Which racially prefers blacks over Coloureds and whites. Coloureds also had voting rights later and the same would likely have happened to blacks had apartheid worked as originally intended by Verwoerd. The system was never build to oppress. Only to 'civilize' the tribal Bantu's

[@gabrielcalaca3208]

Incrível essa transformação 👏👏👏🇧🇷🇿🇦 10/03/2023 11:48

[@lucaschiantodipepe2015]

What's the logic behind the change of orange with red? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🇱🇺🇿🇦

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

Green-red-white-blue were the colours of the South African Republic (Transvaal)

[@hugocheung3833]

It is the mixture between the old Dutch orange and the red on the England/UK flag

[@YuusukeOnodera]

It is actually a hue named "chili red", an orangish hue of red, which was used in order to not alienate the Anglo-South Africans (whose colour was red) and the Afrikaners (whose colour was orange)

[@marionisaacs]

Hi there Antonio, I'd love to use this clip. Any idea where it comes from? SABC?

[@antoniocoppola7833]

Hi Marion, great to hear. I made the recording myself from the old TV1.

[@krommekachelpijp1]

Dit had nooit mogen gebeuren!!!😡🇳🇱🌷🧀 Ons Sal offer wat jy vra! Neil de Beer 2024

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

I hope you and your boers family and friends will root to hell for causing such a tragedy like apartheid

[@flemishnationalist-prayfor9809]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis imagine wishing an entire ethnicity goes to hell...

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

Neil de Beer 2024 twenty thousand times.

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

@@yodathedivorcedone South Africa can use nationalism. Maybe then Europe wont laugh at you for being a shitty bucket of waste that in 1994 was a nation we looked as equals to.

[@yodathedivorcedone]

@@dutchafrikaner1204 I was wrong about this. Our country is shit

[@Mjwara]

Apparently, it was meant to be temporary.

[@daveybozo]

Everything went downhill from here! 😳

[@VoidUnderTheSun]

Hearing the crowd's excitement as the speech ends and the choir starts up makes me so proud and wondering what it must have been like standing their on that day caught up in the spirit of hope that a regime was finally ended and a better future was about to begin.

[@thesmithersy]

Hardly better though is it?

[@Warmaster_24]

@@thesmithersy Exactly, to think my Grandma died in this shit hole makes me resent the ANC forever.

[@catherinedavy1022]

This flag was not meant to be the new flag. It was meant to fly until a new flag was designed. This one was commonly known as Winnie Mandela's G-string. What happened to the design of a New Flag every person could agree on?

[@catherinedavy1022]

This should have been a Military Task not Civilian

[@kobusriekert306]

Because the Communists have spoken!!!!

[@Goony69]

🇿🇦I am a South African if you don't know

[@photosbyjb007]

❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@AGirlNamedVan]

Was this a different version of the anthem though?

[@NormanF62]

The anthems were combined in 1997 in a new hybrid national anthem. As for the flag, it had the virtue of offending no one. Afrikaners resented the Union Jack in the old flag and it had little to do with their national feelings. There were continuous attempts to get rid of it but they never succeeded because no one could agree on what a new flag should look like. All that changed in 1994.

[@ayodontkys]

I like how the flag blows when it reached the top of the pole.

[@revcanon5744]

Replace the red with orange and it will look better.

[@Warmaster_24]

Yep then remove the green crossing the white and place the 3 flags in the middle OR Remove the green in the middle crossing the white and put in ALL the in the history of South Africa into it OR Just replace orange with the red.

[@alexsandrodesouzagoncalves3373]

Exatamente.

[@FlipKotze]

Dit is toe Suid Afrika begrawe was.

[@Helgardt6189]

Die begin van die einde vir Suid-Afrika.

[@emmerentiagroenewald3694]

And flag that the"proud new people " are holding, is UPSIDE DOWN!!! The blue should be at the bottom!🇿🇦🇿🇦 At 15.30

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

Guess they already thought it was a sinking ship before it was well established.

[@emmerentiagroenewald3694]

5.10 The croud does not look very " happy".....😥😥😥😥😥

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

They fear genocide is at their doorstep

[@cesaradorable4668]

6:07 10:58

[@alandia764]

I cried

[@angelaziegler7153]

Aw, why?

[@MattiavonSigmund]

@@angelaziegler7153 Because this was the end of the real, peaceful and powerful South Africa we all used to knew...

[@MattiavonSigmund]

@Henri Panapa Every country has its potential, i should not leave on the basis of current events

[@MattiavonSigmund]

@Henri Panapa Mate, im not from South africa i was just arguing on how drastic was the situation there, since SA still remains one of my favourite nations, sorry if i confused

[@Warmaster_24]

Power navy, powerful Airforce, powerful army. We were the best but now I bet u even an African country can take over our once powerful nation. Look at Afghanistan for example.

[@DM-ly6bl]

South Africa 🇿🇦

[@krommekachelpijp1]

Suid Afrika 🇳🇱

[@IronSharpensIronOfficial]

Serbia Africa 🇷🇸

[@photosbyjb007]

Today is my 80th birthday

[@borisgamer9566]

The old flag is better :)

[@AA-ek5kz]

For the relics it is better but for the victors it is beautiful.

[@veronicalake4140]

Nah

[@ЛюбовьщенокЛюбовьщенок]

@@veronicalake4140 fuck you yes it is

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

Shut up you racist afrikaner!!!

[@angelaziegler7153]

@@kalem_tapi_kritisWow, just because he (or she) prefers the old flag, does not mean they are racist.

[@the.with.man.inside]

Det was a good flag

[@japievisagie6231]

After the new flack; downward spiral in our country.

[@SoloTheStaticHater2810]

So u hate the new flag?

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

Only the racist afrikaners want the old flag

[@blood5096]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis stfu kid.you have no idea what your talking about.

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

@@blood5096 shut up you racist pro-apartheid

[@blood5096]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis afrikaaners today are a minority fighting for their very existence. They are oppressed by the system that supposedly promises universal suffrage.

[@veronicalake4140]

6:03 Die stem

[@AGirlNamedVan]

I wish I wasn't a kid in 1994.... I wish I was of an understanding age to witness the transition to the new republic ❤️

[@phillipleboa5251]

What did you want to experience ??? See assholes taking over and ruining a country ??? YOU MISSED NOTHING.

[@liampetersen7548]

Cape republic

[@forlegalreasonsthatwasajok7608]

Is this a real thing recognized by the government? Like is there an afrikaner nationalist type movement? Sorry im not from SA haha 😅

[@Warmaster_24]

@@forlegalreasonsthatwasajok7608 No but there was a protest to make the western cape an independent State / country. (Because if ur not aware not everyone is a fan of the ANC government and prefer the DA and the Cape is where the DA (Democratic Alliance) gets most of its vote. The DA is not an Afrikaner movement it also has black and white in its party.)

[@AGirlNamedVan]

What a scab in our history hey.

[@wicusjansenvanvuuren2614]

The day South Africa died.

[@ovs8691]

South *Africa* damn its almost like you expect Black people to be there

[@vuyanitheo971]

That's when the New South Africa was formed United in our diversity

[@vuyanitheo971]

I love all People regardless of Skin Colour Gender and Sexual preference

[@vuyanitheo971]

Join us in promoting love for all People (I refuse to be racist)

[@TireekELane]

A United, Prosperous and Independent South Africa is Born, thanks to the African National Congress, it's Allies who helped the people gain their independence from the evil apartheid fascist regime, and to give thanks to our Divine Liberator, Comrade Nelson Mandela: The Man who have United the True People of his motherland, the Unifier who he, the Springboks and his allies and supporters won at the 1995 Rugby World Cup in his own home country, and that even though his passing was tragic indeed, the legacy of Madiba and all those glorious liberators who came before him and after him will always continue on for the next generation to take his place after another. One who can do the same as Comrade Madiba once did for his people, but turn South Africa into a Continental Superpower, Similar to the U.S., Russia, China, Britain, France, and other Secondary Superpower Nations.

[@무현노-h3e]

1:46 현재 남아공 대통령

[@lewhall9264]

No number of new FLAGS can wipe out what has happened in South Africa then and now. South Africa has gone from a first world economic powerhouse to 3rd world disaster. Trust everyone is very happy.

[@jl63023]

And black people have gone from 2nd class citizens to legal equals

[@emmerentiagroenewald3694]

That poor new flag,just crying in a limp bundle! Sign of the future??? Even the wind did not want to send a little breeze.....😥😥😥

[@aylmerwhiliem3873]

예지력😂😂

[@XCzarXtm]

Sudáfrica existe gracias a la colonización neerlandesa, no debieron cambiar su bandera solo por hacer lo políticamente correcto.

[@betssteyn-vd9sq]

Ek is soooo trots op my kleur my taal my vlag en my land SA mag GOD SA seen ❤

[@georgev9170]

Civilised rule being laid to rest. All thanks to Botha and de Klerk😡

[@alexanderfooy723]

Authoritarian repression is hardly civilized, and de Klerk realized that it wasn’t a sustainable position. There would have been no future for Afrikaners and other White South Africans had that continued.

[@alexanderfooy723]

@Daan Schlüter But is it? A small percentage of people likely had it better, true, but at what was already a tremendous cost. The situation now would be 100x worse if Apartheid had continued in my opinion.

[@alexanderfooy723]

@Daan Schlüter Hardly, and accelerationism is a highway to hell. Also, Zimbabwe is an exceptionally bad example of a country (and yes, Smith>Mugabe).

[@alexanderfooy723]

@Daan Schlüter And you wouldn’t have a chance of preserving shit. On one end you had all the groups like the AWB, MK (ANC-SACP), the IFP, you’d also have to deal with the SADF, SAP, and all the Bantustans. And on the other end, you’d be able to count on very little support from anyone else. You’d be less than 10% of the population this whole time, and it wouldn’t be like Rhodesia. South Africa is larger, and with a more spread out and massive population.

[@alexanderfooy723]

@Daan Schlüter I mean, rather everything going to a full-scale war than whatever’s happening now is textbook accelerationism. Most (not all) African countries seem better off than Zimbabwe and have not had similar politics, so I’ll call it exceptionally bad. What made apartheid unsustainable was the increasing international isolation South Africa was faced with, which was leading to the devaluation of the Rand and little trade. It’s also frankly hard to run such a large country when you’re committed to keeping large amounts of people separated, which places quite the burden on the economy. The 10% aren’t enough for South Africa on its own. Also, South Africa spent basically the last decade/decade and a half of the Apartheid era in a state of emergency due to the levels of violence of the time. It was a horrid state of affairs. The Union died in 1961 with the end of British rule, btw. That was the other major change that took place at the time. None of this is an endorsement of the present state of affairs, by the way (and I see the concerns), but just saying that an attempt to continue apartheid would have landed South Africa in an even worse state (alongside my own disagreements with the policies themselves).

[@gernimeyer2562]

No thanks

[@Bonczek53]

It is now fail State

[@OceanChannelProductions]

While I don’t hate the old one and I think it looks good, you new one is much better

[@dantheman4807]

7:11 14:12

[@nikrose5229]

I'd rather like the new South African flag. It fits so many colors and has a unique design.🇿🇦

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

The old one did too. But it's better now. Green, red white and blue to represent the Afrikaners (Transvaal to be exact) and the ANC colours. Going together in one country.

[@Inescapeium]

Far better than the old flag, which was just flags mushed into a flag.

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

@@Inescapeium I disagree with 'far' I love for example how the Van Riebeeckvlag represents the struggle the Afrikaners and natives had with the British, with Free State being the peacekeeper between Transvaal and Great Britain.

[@sikhumbulembaxa8562]

there is no sizulu in this Nkosi sikelela

[@mbusomthimkhulu8136]

Yizwa imithandazo yethu is Zulu

[@mbusomthimkhulu8136]

In Xhosa it, Yiva imithandazo yethu

[@HughvanZyl]

The beginning of the downfall of South Africa.

[@lucashemsworth6708]

Is this some sort of a joke? The beginning of the end for South Africa started when idiot boertjies voted for the NP, and then voted to go it alone.

[@Warmaster_24]

@@lucashemsworth6708 I dunno if u South Africa but over here is a crime land shit hole and a ANC gov that doesn’t understand how to keep promises

[@rizaradri316]

While apartheid is bad, I agree with you. ANC is utterly incompetent.

[@theminista4499]

The beginning was when van Riebeek came here

[@christobosman5710]

The beginning of the down fall of South Africa , a shame full day .

[@redcar9949]

that in my opinoin was the day that mandela's presidency ended. i think thats when things really started to go downhill

[@christobosman5710]

@@redcar9949 even in mandela's days , where do you think the money's came from that ended in mandela and his family's hands ? The pot of money was still full when he dug his hands in it , his hands couldn't reach the bottom , the ones that came after him were not so lucky ,they had to scrape the bottom empty and that is the reason today that this country is bankrupt .

[@adro3828]

Honestly, the current South African flag is absolutely one of my favorite flags of all time. 🇿🇦

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

For me it's the old South African flag, I agree it should not be the symbol to unite all South Africans, as it only contains Dutch and British symbolism. That's where the new flag is better. But the oranje blanje blou does represent the history of South Africa and it's van is just crazy, it's undemocratic, it's discrimination against Afrikaners and it's an abomination for Pieter Botha and especially F.W. de Klerk whom abolished Apartheid

[@phiwesharestheword]

A great day in history

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

for some, but sadly not for many. At least there was hope on that day. Lets hope we can end the ANC regime one day.

[@reinhardtwiegand8020]

The new south afrika flag are 👎. The old south afrikan flag are 👍💖👌. I just love Old-school! Old school so Cool! The sweet 80's, the best time off your live!

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

Okay racist... so the apartheid era is very sweet to you, huh? Damn why are the whites are so racist???

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis The Van Riebeeckflag was there before Apartheid. Should I call a a Zulu racist because the Zulu Kingdom murdered Boers a few ages ago and he is proud of the Zulu Kingdom's flag? No. This flag was not implented by Apartheid but before. Far before Apartheid.

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis Nelson Mandela himself respected Die Stem. Because there is no racism in the song, the only thing coming close to racism in Die Stem is that it calls Afrikaners the 'Children of South Africa' in the third verse. Die Stem is more about South Africa then Nkosi Sikelel iAfrika, which is about Africa in general.

[@mihlesobekwa1648]

I hate the old s...t flag 😮

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

I love the old beautiful flag, as I do the modern flag. I would love to debate you about the oranje blanje blou @dutchafrikaner

[@CobusDerrenberg]

Time for the real flag to be raised again..

[@SmithMemorabilia]

Lol

[@petelosuaniu]

The old flag was fokken ugly. Who the hell puts three mini flags inside another flag? Breaks all the rules of flag design.

[@blood5096]

It was beautiful

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

Right? Only racist white people who think the old flag was beautiful

[@dutchafrikaner1204]

​@@kalem_tapi_kritis then in God's name im racist. I happen to be white but im sure many blacks and coloureds would love the flag too. In fact, this guy was curious about what blacks thought of the flag nowadays kzbin.info/www/bejne/qqe4eZ1tf8ucnbc

[@manicmaggie]

It worked.

[@BrainWashed-ww]

😂 the confederate flag looks like a washed up old lady underwear dipped in bleach... there's no flavour😂 whatsoever

[@manicmaggie]

This is the new South African flag. 🇹🇷

[@IronSharpensIronOfficial]

No this is 🇬🇷

[@cantillanovictor]

​@@IronSharpensIronOfficialIs 🇮🇱

[@dawiebenjamin3249]

ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AHA

[@tkeysmusic768]

What an ugly anthem.

[@FreedomLovingLoyalist]

the new one was more ugly.

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

Die stem? Yeah it's very ugly and racist!

[@alternated122]

i both like the anthems i can memorize the modern tho

[@hopebuhali3887]

The new anthem is so beautiful

[@Warmaster_24]

@@hopebuhali3887 Lol the English sounds like it was written by a 4 year old

[@josephpalau897]

The day communism won and democracy died in South Africa 😢

[@FreedomLovingLoyalist]

The day South Africa died.

[@Mike_RMCF]

L

[@darjuz96]

Read your account name...

[@kalem_tapi_kritis]

There's "freedom" in your account's name, but you seem like supported apartheid era. So ironic...

[@vincenta_2]

@@kalem_tapi_kritis You seem to have been causing a lot of trouble in this comment section. Your closed minded attitude makes you look utterly dumb. Harbouring hate in your heart won’t solve anything. You’re just being petty and rude to those who respect history regardless of how good or bad it was.

[@Warmaster_24]

@@vincenta_2 How much u wanna bet it’s some stupid kid without education or experience typing to get attention