Rally Stage Notes and Pace Notes Explained

[@Teamoneilrally]

Hi and thanks for tuning in! Our KZbin channel was recently switched to a brand account from a personal one and some past comments were lost as a result. Please ask any questions you have and we’ll get to them as quickly as possible, thanks again for watching and please don’t forget to hit like, subscribe, and enjoy!

[@dominicwadkins8639]

Is there a place where I can get an old note book that was used for any race just to have a book to study and get a format for making my own. Thanks for the video.

[@stupidrainbo]

@@martzy7536 WTF you telling him what to do and break the law?

[@chagorith]

welp, now I know what those mean in Colin McRae Rally

[@chagorith]

also, thinking about it R4 into L1 or vice versa, would be a TERRIBLE combination for a track

[@boringpolitician]

What does "maybe" mean in the notes? "straight 100 in to left 4 maybe"?

[@rowland0thekurgan769]

I can feel my dirt rally skills increasing :D

[@SheetFiber]

same, lol

[@codygoodbread550]

That’s the only reason I watched this

[@Foxhound94]

WRC7 for me

[@smurfkillerX]

just bought dirt rally 2.0 and youre spot on lol

[@tntfreddan3138]

I don't play Dirt but I play WRC.

[@rouuuk]

Dirt rally should include this tutorial

[@Foxhound94]

All rally games should have this, bought WRC7 and was confused about my co-driver screaming at me with numbers. Now I know what he's taking about..kinda.. Still learning.

[@drverano1918]

same with Dirt Rallye 2.0 its was so confusing...

[@ryanpaps3781]

They teach you in dirt 4 but not very well

[@PaulAndresVariedadyJuegos23]

Lol they should literally put a link straight to this video

[@PaulAndresVariedadyJuegos23]

What I recommend for everyone learning is that you disable the codriver calls, go around a track (preferably a short one, think El Rodeo, Argentina [DiRT Rally 2.0]) and try to note your own notes and then compare it to the game calls, you will become a lot more aware of how the game interprets turns, this helped me achieve my first WR

[@3dy97]

*SAMIR, YOU ARE BREAKING THE CAR*

[@Curratum]

TRIPLE CAUTION, TRIPLE CAUTION!

[@TheFlyingPLiner]

LISTEN TO MY CALLS!

[@AdityaSharma001]

Shut up! Don't teach me how to drive!! xDxD

[@aniruddhamazumdar7876]

Shadap yar!

[@misterrandom888]

HAHAHA why do i understand this XDD

[@MediHusky]

According to Colin McRae, you're supposed to cut every corner especially the "don't cut" corners. According to Nicky Grist, that's the easiest way to roll your car. Either way you should still finish the stage.

[@liamholcroft7212]

If in doubt, flat out!

[@NathanMcCabe88]

Great comment!! 👍

[@agustin8160]

if in doubt, do a barrel roll

[@MediHusky]

@@agustin8160 Just land wheels down 👌

[@xing0318]

TRIPLE CAUTION SAMI, TRIPLE CAUTION!!!

[@JohannesKonow]

So Random you mean Samir? ;) "you're breaking the car Samir, you need to listen to me"

[@staibybaby7289]

That’s all I could hear in my mind when he brought up the cautions.

[@daivikj7051]

Shut up, don't tell me how to drive

[@lazarmilenkovic6772]

Samir is actually good driver.He won several rally championships in Asia,but that rally was first since he had huge crash.So one guy from India wanted to make fun on him so he made that video.I will drop link from some news about this

[@woodyy2125]

STAY CENTER. STAY CENTER

[@Zulfburht]

When you skipped the tutorial in Rallying games.

[@livonianmapping3221]

Rally games dont even have tutorials sadly

[@davecarsley8773]

@@livonianmapping3221 That's rediculous--of course they do. The latest one I bought (Dirt 4) has an entire rally driving school.

[@tuningsnow]

Last one that had rally school was RBR

[@merlebump5328]

@@davecarsley8773 I got Dirt 2.0 with my ps subscription. Are Dirt rally and Dirt 4 better?

[@LJT9393]

Except the tutorials just show you how to drive the car and the objective of the game. They don’t teach you all this, but they should!

[@heredownunder]

I always liked “Jump Maybe”, because it sounds like Jump Baby!

[@smac919]

" I don't like jumps, baby. " - Walter Rohrl

[@aldenzhao7046]

You jump, I jump.

[@tntfreddan3138]

R3 into L2 ! over cr into L2 onto R3 ! cr into L3 into R2 ! for cr 200 ! onto R4 onto L3 ! cr into L2. The first 600 meters down our road at home. I live beside an old, discontinued rally stage from "The Rally to the Midnight Sun". It was one of the summer stages. It's around 7km through the forest with both trees, jumps, cliffs that you can fall off of, fields, asphalt, gravel, sick straights, crests and a lot of dangerous corners.

[@garyindiana2127]

😁

[@merlebump5328]

Awesome. seems like a fun trip to the grocery store

[@yncsNt]

* jealous noises *

[@plague46]

Midnattssolsrallyt!

[@iDeLaYeD_o]

I thought you were just recreating Rally game calls which still do the same thing still

[@metaomicron72]

*"Quick short video"* (I check the time...30 min)

[@RedJLP]

In comparison to actual lessons, he may have a point.

[@davecarsley8773]

The age of the universe is about 14 billion years... 30 minutes is unbelievably quick.

[@AriIskanderKrohnBerle]

@@davecarsley8773 Haha! Love it...

[@uketone]

Get on with it

[@oaz8]

its short dude for detailed lessons

[@salado1944]

Gotta love how dirt rally and DR 2.0 made me have to learn things that an actual rally driver should know to actually play the game

[@TairnKA]

That's the clearest explanation I've heard about pace notes, Thank-you. There's two things I feel are important, "Consistency" and "Trust". The driver and co-driver must understand every term that's used. The driver must trust (without question, unless upside down in a tree) what the co-driver is telling him/her and co-driver trust that the driver will follow the notes (assuming the notes are written correctly). ;-)

[@sivas5823]

Its 3am... I dont even own my first car yet..... I was watching it with all vigor... almost going to fall asleep n then it comes 26:10 "6 Left 5 Right 2 Left becaaauseee"..... N I went, 'Yeaaaaa thats exaactly what am talking about !! Degree of the turn first makes more sense!' Shit... need some sleeping pills man !

[@NerdyCatCoffeeee]

you do have a point. Degree of the turn makes more sence coming before the direction

[@Thomas_Bergel]

@@NerdyCatCoffeeee I actually prefer the direction first, then the degree

[@NerdyCatCoffeeee]

@@Thomas_Bergel wel, if you hear left 2 and if you hear 2 left, you will react to the second option faster. Because does it really matter which way it is if it's a 2?

[@imanuelhizkia819]

you forgot the "YOU ARE BREAKING THE CAR" call, it's an indication for you to quit rallying XD

[@TorAndreBrresen]

Having the number before the direction makes most sense, more important to get the number out first because usually you can see the direction. I struggle with that in Dirt Rally 1

[@hashrulsubzero]

I think having the number come out first before the direction works for you because you're comfortable with it. For me, I also like to have the number come out first before the direction on my pacenotes but I can also use the directions come out first before the number as they both are the same thing (especially when I'm playing DiRT Rally). It's what works for you is all that matters :) I do hope if Codemasters or some other video game developers creates a rally game that you can make your own pacenotes. From simple to complex pacenotes and from degree to a simple 1-6 or 6-1 pacenotes. If someone did, I would play that game :)

[@iPtrck]

In dirt rally there's an option

[@trykozmaksym]

yeah, own pacenotes would be great. I think it's for PS they have co-driver mode

[@edmundfung]

I wouldn’t like that for blind corners at all...

[@RedJLP]

@@edmundfung Then maybe add a note of !Blind

[@apophisstr6719]

Just implement the code "Samir" into the pace note then no one will ever break their car in a rally stage ever again.

[@SheetFiber]

thanks, my Dirt Rally skill increased.

[@laurenbina4188]

Pace notes sounded like overwhelming jargon before this video. THANK YOU for taking the time to explain the basics and how someone could customize their notes. 👍👍👍

[@jakeritzman1720]

I've always had a really casual appreciation for rallying on the level of "cars going down windy dirt courses is pretty cool", I just started getting into it more and wanted to understand the more technical side, it all makes sense after watching this. It really isn't as complicated as it seems (despite there sometimes being a lot of information like the R4+/lgsmcr into L3-

[@hashrulsubzero]

Thank you for sharing this video. Nice and clear lecturing! 0:56 - 1:37 As a Malaysian, I find it quite strange after I learned about the Jemba Inertia Notes System. Not many national rally use that system especially here in Malaysia where we write our own pacenotes during the recce.

[@taufiqutomo]

I still remembered actually writing pacenotes for my collegemate who played WRC 4 on PS2 during levels in which the game provided no navigator.

[@chriswinter5765]

Not every day I sot through a 30 min KZbin video. GREAT stuff. Clear. Simple. Easy to understand. Are you OK with me using this as an example of good educational video?

[@Dontgowide]

Thanks for mentioning us at 20:56 ;)

[@itzsir5418]

:)

[@Weeble_Warbles]

I knew nothing about rally racing until I found this channel. You're an excellent mentor.

[@clouds5]

First thing I learned the hard way is listening to the word "tightens". If you don't listen, turns that start as a 4 and then tighten into a 2 or even 1 are guaranteed to throw you off the road :D

[@wingman8314]

This was actually a huge help. Like I have been driving blind till now. Thanks man!

[@justintimbersaw3934]

Why do I have to watch this at 2AM ? I'm not even a rally driver

[@evanoeab9118]

I remember the first time i watched this i was in like 7th or 8th grade and i made my own custom stage with pace notes on a piece of paper and i got my friend to be my "driver" as i read the notes out, just our desk, a pencil case steering wheel, water bottle shifter and my trusty notes...we had more fun than i thought we would LUL

[@10rafael32jesus]

who else came here because of Dirt Rally? XDD Btw, thanks for the introduction, it helps me a lot, not only with Dirt Rally

[@Bob-Jenkins]

I recently found my original Colin McRae rally discs and cases. The booklet (remember when games were sold with instructions) has 3-5 pages describing what everything means complete with diagrams. Now, all we get are day one DLC and updates.

[@Alpaslann]

Collin mcrae PS1😎

[@ricardoteix]

guilty \o_

[@UKEDNHAT7]

@@Alpaslann hell yeah dude

[@Alpaslann]

@@UKEDNHAT7 good ol days

[@lauramulrooney5476]

This is wicked. Here in Ireland we usually say 3 Left or a 5 Right, the principal is the same. Fantastic to watch guys!

[@frankovercrest2317]

What about Jesus Christ Kris? What does that note means?

[@rashidvanpoppel8630]

FrankOverCrest Raly mexico right?

[@metaomicron72]

Ahah I would say about the same as Terry Harryman's "oh Dear God"

[@frankovercrest2317]

hashrulsubzero where does that one comes from?

[@drasleona6216]

i think it was one of the rallys where spectators put flamingos on the edge of a open hairpin. and the driver took them all out.

[@JohannesKonow]

rashid van poppel watch his onboards. It is (was) like almost every rally at least one "Jesus christ Kris" or just a "Jesus christ".

[@harrisonrawlinson5650]

Watching this makes me even more in awe of rally drivers, I wouldn’t be able to process this information whilst sat still, they can do it whilst driving 100mph on gravel in between trees and spectators

[@minbari73]

I find it hard enough to keep this stuff in my head as it's about to happen (and remember it) just in a rally sim, let alone hanging on to a actual car with gravity and real physics making things difficult.

[@faysoufox]

I've started to play wrc9 on PC recently and didn't understand what the copilot was saying although I started to get it over time. Your video makes it much clearer. Thank you

[@AmirFaridGani]

this explanation makes me love the art of rallying

[@kogagreg]

This is excellent. I’ve always wondered and now I know. Years ago I saw there was a co-driving school in England I think. I’m going to start using this as I navigate our 3rd world roads here in NYC.

[@siimu111]

My notes are different. Imagine an analog clock. 0 means straight, 1 and 2 are fast corners, 3 is a right angle, 4 is a sharp angle and 5 is hairpin. 6 corners are almost non-existent. Here in Europe we use both methods - clock (0, 1, 2, 3, 4 ,5) and gears (6, 5, 4, 3, 2, 1). It depends, what you prefer.

[@inquizition9672]

First started playing dirt rally 2.0 and was confused why my co-driver kept saying "titan", when he was really saying "tighten". I was all, "what do ancient greek mythological creatures have to do with rallying?". Makes way more sense.

[@tariq1318]

Better than me when I heard "Don't Cut" as "Donut".

[@tobiaszjabonski6889]

Nobody asked for this, but everyone needed.

[@merlebump5328]

Perfect. Well explained. I had about a 70% understanding of what the co pilot was saying just by going through a few races, but this confirmed and cleared everything up for me.

[@wiz601]

Thank you! I'm a big Rally fan and drive my SIM regularly. I have always been impressed by the skills, focus and stamina demanded of Rally drivers, but I am also very impressed by the amount of concentration required of the co-pilots, which I feel have been underrated for far too long. I have learned to follow instinctively, verbatim, what my co-piilot dictates, but honestly never understood how they can do it for so long, especially on complex routes and not blow a gasket. Co-pilots deserve more praise. Thank you for this very well presented explanation.

[@jamescampisi7716]

Informative content! I had always wondered what these things meant.

[@manspeej]

I know what the corner numbers mean like right 4 or left 5 but the number in between like 80 or 150 or 200 I never knew what that meant but now I know thank you

[@dokotadunn8138]

I appreciate this video more than you could imagine.

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

For obstruction notes ("Tree inside" or "Rocks Outside) I prefer to have the note start differently. It would be "STAY tight" and "GO wide". That way, you don't get confused or mishear. Stay is always tight and Go is always wide. Works for me anyways. Biggest tip in my mind: You might think you want the driver to drive and co-driver to note but really you want both to know both well. I need my driver to know that my tail goes really light after a crest so he knows to adjust the notes to better fit the vehicle. Similarly, as the driver, I want to know what note scheme works for me and to work with my driver on tweaking the notes. Also very important if you're not always having the same people.

[@photographybyliamanderson1659]

this was so helpful for watching others..

[@hochiminrodriguez5908]

Bro this is so amazing like I actually love all this information 💪🏽

[@oponamikwe5011]

Bro, just learnt a new language. Im proud of myself. Great concise and clear instructions. You know your stuff brew. Tanx

[@iqbalnakhas]

That's really help for newbie like me, thank you 👍

[@laserworkstv]

27 dislikes from angry co pilots who are afraid of us knowing their secrets 😈

[@FactFlare370]

Not all hero wear capes. Thank you good sir.

[@vinaymanjunath8430]

Beautifully explained, wow! Ur a super instructor

[@richharr]

Rally co driving is a good read too! Can you do a video on co-driving? How to get started, training, equipment etc? Its kind of a topic not as covered or coveted as driving but equally important.

[@codewithnacho]

I came here wondering what "titans" meant in Dirt 2.0. Left feeling like Carlos Sainz.

[@raptor747-8]

Absolutely brilliant video, so practical. 👏 👏

[@joelallonen5501]

This was the video I was looking for! I just got my rally sim set up and I'm off to my 1st VR rally experience :D

[@albertpapikyants]

Dude thanks so much! I understand now. It’ll just take time for my brain to get used to processing all of it.

[@andreevemsmarquez9420]

Wow! This is clearly explained! :D You've earned yourselves a sub ;)

[@VisceralDisgust]

What does "maybe" mean in rally. I think it means "maybe" flat out. E.g jump maybe = definitely a jump, possibly flat out.

[@drasleona6216]

yeah, its basically saying if you're going flat out you will get a jump, but if you hold off it will lighten the vehicle but not send you airborne. so jump maybe is useful when you got damage or had a bad exit from previous corner, so if you're going 50mph its not a jump, if you're going faster than 60mph its going to send your airborne.

[@VisceralDisgust]

Thanks :)

[@autumnphenixarts]

Gab on Dirt "maybe" can also be a code for a spot where conditions could differ from the co-drivers stage notes.

[@Kosmologiikka]

Exactly the question I was thinking during the whole video. Thanks for clarifying.

[@Ashalmawia]

"jump maybe" means you'll only jump if you're going fast enough

[@clasherface7227]

Very educational!! I am 16 looking to get into rally racing, this helped me out a BUNCH, great video!

[@ronh8126]

OK, I just started with DR2.0 so forgive me if I sound like a noob. That English bloke as a co-driver, although helpful at times, messes with my brain. He's either so early that I've forgotten what he said by the time we get to the turn (usually because it was so long) or were already through the turn & I don't know which turn he is talking about. I did learn (the hard way) to listen for the no cut phrase (they really mean it) because I caught the corner of a brick building doing almost 60. If computers could cuss I am sure he would have been. Thanks for this. Maybe it will help me throttle the car & not the co-driver.

[@66barreto]

Hi and thanks for tuning in

[@jericosha2842]

Wow this was very well presented, thanks

[@TheAAron1830]

Really helpful for someone who wants to start rallying.... thank you Team O'Neil...

[@boi1996]

been playing dirt rally 4 so i came here to understand ehat the co-driver is saying 😀 so thank you very much :) :) :)

[@jacksongatens2419]

Dirt rally 4, missed the other 3 Dirt Rally games?

[@quarrena280c7]

Jackson Gatens obviously he means dirt 4 smart ass

[@AzraelFPV]

@@jacksongatens2419 ahem, 2 games

[@neokoga]

What a phenomenal breakdown for beginners. Well done.

[@abhishekbanerjee9425]

Really loved the part at 20:45 where you explain the "robot" mode. So accurate

[@GardenGuy1942]

It isn’t though, we are NOT robots…

[@TheArunVincent]

Thanks a lot brother.. Lot of usefull information for a beginner. Always following you. 👍🏻👍🏻❤️

[@skyrockit8271]

This is so helpful,, really well explained,, great video ~

[@ahru1000]

Note to WRC 8, I'm switching from regular controller to a steering wheel after watching this tutorial.

[@Bluedevil82nd]

This is really good! I'm considering getting into this with my son. Very clearly explained and super informative.

[@jvepps]

Great explanation. Very easy to understand.

[@henrymaier9607]

17:24 TRIPLE CAUTION SAMIR!!

[@bbomberz8151]

"We just wanted to do a quick short video today" Proceeds to be 30 mins long!!

[@rowlandseals5197]

Wow thank you! I have learned so much.

[@TheXalos]

he looks like Man of Steel... great video!

[@persianhotshot]

IMO the reverse numerical system with the degree coming first and sometimes using the old system is the best and makes the most sense. But that would be too much work for the co driver! So I'll try to get used to what my DiRT co-drivers use. :D

[@thorwrigglesworth5116]

Excellent video

[@MrROTD]

I thought the numbers were suggested gears in the gearbox, lol I did well in video games using the recommended "gears"

[@thomasvleminckx]

For some drivers, the numbers ARE recommended gears. Colin for example used this system. Different drivers prefer different systems. Some drivers have systems where higher numbers indicate tighter corners, the opposite of what's explained here.

[@RallyDriva]

I always get excited at these new videos. Wyatt is so well versed and at home in front of a camera!

[@evergreen8509]

9:59 8...9...10..11...12 pieces of information........for two corners! good stuff

[@anas.g]

This is the only math i can handle

[@metaomicron72]

I need to share this a lot, such good information and very well explained! He does a great job and he is a great instructor as well!

[@Curratum]

Oh, man, what a great video! Thank you!

[@EvilPinkPony]

This is simply amazing. Great explanations, fine examples, including differencies in how people brain might process information during high speeds. Helped me a lot, gave a perspective and next time maybe i won't strangle my welsh co driver in DR 2.0 to death. Dude has an awful tendency to keep rambling about unimportant nuances during those action packed corners. Sometimes switching him to japanese helps 😂

[@AqsaJaved_]

I am commenting this from hospital ward after I tried to follow these pacenotes with my Honda Civic in hometown hilly roads.

[@LJT9393]

I am 9 Years Old Hashir that’s what you get when you try driving fast in a car at 9yrs of age!

[@AqsaJaved_]

LJ it is god gifted talent😜

[@SHUSSBAR]

Loved it . Thanks. Did some rallies as co-driver in France in the 90s + assistance/logistics planning for Rallye Monte Carlo Group N winner in 1987 (Bertrand Balas, Lancia Gr.N). Makes me want to do some again. Where do I start in USA?

[@TonyMarinou82]

All this time I thought it was Titans over a crest. I was like 'wtf does that even mean!!" 😅🤌

[@ry4bfggfd]

Same here lmfao!

[@DN_13]

Thank you. I had no idea what my co pilot was telling me in DiRT Rally 2.0. Lol. With the accent, I thought he was saying Titans. 😂

[@coolguybronzedave]

Same

[@flandrekagamine5296]

So informative. Thank you so much

[@private_cruise]

Meanwhile, Samir: SHADDAP

[@DctrBread]

I always thought + and - were about road camber/road lift. notating good camber and road dips increases entry speed and safety of a given corner a lot.

[@bikersoncall]

I would never want to do any of this, but love watching WRC, and this guy explains things as if he genuinely wants you to learn it, and does it very well, way better than most.

[@vindicatedrascal]

beautifully explained. well done sir

[@kasiitaali]

🗿I feel high after watching this. dirty rally 2.0 am coming

[@MillenniumEarl014]

I'm becoming a better Dirt Rally drivee thanks to this

[@dufferdude1205]

If that’s how it works in the USA then it’s very easy to rig the system. Believe me I’m no Euro fan, but in this instance I agree with them. Travis Pastrana.

[@adrielle1i23]

Just bought dirt rally in steam. Wish me luck! 😂

[@theodorsonfors1391]

Sunshine right into lollipop left, caution rainbows. Keep left over hugs and kisses. Someone needs to implement this.

[@kimchikidbear]

Super helpful!

[@MrTomatensenf]

I noticed in a full onboard footage the codriver said: very slippery exit (after corner that was). So if you are on slippery ground, are you going to give throttle a kick or carefully lower your foot. As too much torque increases the slipping and slowly increasing accelleration increases chances of finding the 'grip spot'. ?