Rally Stage Notes and Pace Notes Explained

An introduction to stage notes, the shorthand language that you would need to learn and use to compete in American rally racing events. Stage notes are computer generated, whereas pace notes (more common internationally) are made personally by each team.
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[@Teamoneilrally]

Hi and thanks for tuning in! Our KZbin channel was recently switched to a brand account from a personal one and some past comments were lost as a result. Please ask any questions you have and we’ll get to them as quickly as possible, thanks again for watching and please don’t forget to hit like, subscribe, and enjoy!

[@dominicwadkins8639]

Is there a place where I can get an old note book that was used for any race just to have a book to study and get a format for making my own. Thanks for the video.

[@stupidrainbo]

@@martzy7536 WTF you telling him what to do and break the law?

[@chagorith]

welp, now I know what those mean in Colin McRae Rally

[@chagorith]

also, thinking about it R4 into L1 or vice versa, would be a TERRIBLE combination for a track

[@boringpolitician]

What does "maybe" mean in the notes? "straight 100 in to left 4 maybe"?

[@rowland0thekurgan769]

I can feel my dirt rally skills increasing :D

[@SheetFiber]

same, lol

[@codygoodbread550]

That’s the only reason I watched this

[@Foxhound94]

WRC7 for me

[@smurfkillerX]

just bought dirt rally 2.0 and youre spot on lol

[@tntfreddan3138]

I don't play Dirt but I play WRC.

[@rouuuk]

Dirt rally should include this tutorial

[@Foxhound94]

All rally games should have this, bought WRC7 and was confused about my co-driver screaming at me with numbers. Now I know what he's taking about..kinda.. Still learning.

[@drverano1918]

same with Dirt Rallye 2.0 its was so confusing...

[@ryanpaps3781]

They teach you in dirt 4 but not very well

[@PaulAndresVariedadyJuegos23]

Lol they should literally put a link straight to this video

[@PaulAndresVariedadyJuegos23]

What I recommend for everyone learning is that you disable the codriver calls, go around a track (preferably a short one, think El Rodeo, Argentina [DiRT Rally 2.0]) and try to note your own notes and then compare it to the game calls, you will become a lot more aware of how the game interprets turns, this helped me achieve my first WR

[@MediHusky]

According to Colin McRae, you're supposed to cut every corner especially the "don't cut" corners. According to Nicky Grist, that's the easiest way to roll your car. Either way you should still finish the stage.

[@liamholcroft7212]

If in doubt, flat out!

[@NathanMcCabe88]

Great comment!! 👍

[@agustin8160]

if in doubt, do a barrel roll

[@MediHusky]

@@agustin8160 Just land wheels down 👌

[@xing0318]

TRIPLE CAUTION SAMI, TRIPLE CAUTION!!!

[@JohannesKonow]

So Random you mean Samir? ;) "you're breaking the car Samir, you need to listen to me"

[@staibybaby7289]

That’s all I could hear in my mind when he brought up the cautions.

[@daivikj7051]

Shut up, don't tell me how to drive

[@lazarmilenkovic6772]

Samir is actually good driver.He won several rally championships in Asia,but that rally was first since he had huge crash.So one guy from India wanted to make fun on him so he made that video.I will drop link from some news about this

[@woodyy2125]

STAY CENTER. STAY CENTER

[@tntfreddan3138]

R3 into L2 ! over cr into L2 onto R3 ! cr into L3 into R2 ! for cr 200 ! onto R4 onto L3 ! cr into L2. The first 600 meters down our road at home. I live beside an old, discontinued rally stage from "The Rally to the Midnight Sun". It was one of the summer stages. It's around 7km through the forest with both trees, jumps, cliffs that you can fall off of, fields, asphalt, gravel, sick straights, crests and a lot of dangerous corners.

[@garyindiana2127]

😁

[@baiaili80]

Awesome. seems like a fun trip to the grocery store

[@yncsNt]

* jealous noises *

[@plague46]

Midnattssolsrallyt!

[@iDeLaYeD_o]

I thought you were just recreating Rally game calls which still do the same thing still

[@salado1944]

Gotta love how dirt rally and DR 2.0 made me have to learn things that an actual rally driver should know to actually play the game

[@3dy97]

*SAMIR, YOU ARE BREAKING THE CAR*

[@Curratum]

TRIPLE CAUTION, TRIPLE CAUTION!

[@TheFlyingPLiner]

LISTEN TO MY CALLS!

[@AdityaSharma001]

Shut up! Don't teach me how to drive!! xDxD

[@aniruddhamazumdar7876]

Shadap yar!

[@misterrandom888]

HAHAHA why do i understand this XDD

[@TairnKA]

That's the clearest explanation I've heard about pace notes, Thank-you. There's two things I feel are important, "Consistency" and "Trust". The driver and co-driver must understand every term that's used. The driver must trust (without question, unless upside down in a tree) what the co-driver is telling him/her and co-driver trust that the driver will follow the notes (assuming the notes are written correctly). ;-)

[@heredownunder]

I always liked “Jump Maybe”, because it sounds like Jump Baby!

[@MachtPlays]

" I don't like jumps, baby. " - Walter Rohrl

[@aldenzhao7046]

You jump, I jump.

[@N3onDr1v3]

I swear maybe is the worst pacenote

[@Weeble_Warbles]

I knew nothing about rally racing until I found this channel. You're an excellent mentor.

[@laurenbina4188]

Pace notes sounded like overwhelming jargon before this video. THANK YOU for taking the time to explain the basics and how someone could customize their notes. 👍👍👍

[@Dontgowide]

Thanks for mentioning us at 20:56 ;)

[@itzsir5418]

:)

[@oponamikwe5011]

Bro, just learnt a new language. Im proud of myself. Great concise and clear instructions. You know your stuff brew. Tanx

[@TorAndreBrresen]

Having the number before the direction makes most sense, more important to get the number out first because usually you can see the direction. I struggle with that in Dirt Rally 1

[@hashrulsubzero]

I think having the number come out first before the direction works for you because you're comfortable with it. For me, I also like to have the number come out first before the direction on my pacenotes but I can also use the directions come out first before the number as they both are the same thing (especially when I'm playing DiRT Rally). It's what works for you is all that matters :) I do hope if Codemasters or some other video game developers creates a rally game that you can make your own pacenotes. From simple to complex pacenotes and from degree to a simple 1-6 or 6-1 pacenotes. If someone did, I would play that game :)

[@iPtrck]

In dirt rally there's an option

[@trykozmaksym]

yeah, own pacenotes would be great. I think it's for PS they have co-driver mode

[@edmundfung]

I wouldn’t like that for blind corners at all...

[@RedJLP]

@@edmundfung Then maybe add a note of !Blind

[@wiz601]

Thank you! I'm a big Rally fan and drive my SIM regularly. I have always been impressed by the skills, focus and stamina demanded of Rally drivers, but I am also very impressed by the amount of concentration required of the co-pilots, which I feel have been underrated for far too long. I have learned to follow instinctively, verbatim, what my co-piilot dictates, but honestly never understood how they can do it for so long, especially on complex routes and not blow a gasket. Co-pilots deserve more praise. Thank you for this very well presented explanation.

[@chriswinter5765]

Not every day I sot through a 30 min KZbin video. GREAT stuff. Clear. Simple. Easy to understand. Are you OK with me using this as an example of good educational video?

[@abhishekbanerjee9425]

Really loved the part at 20:45 where you explain the "robot" mode. So accurate

[@GardenGuy1942]

It isn’t though, we are NOT robots…

[@bikersoncall]

I would never want to do any of this, but love watching WRC, and this guy explains things as if he genuinely wants you to learn it, and does it very well, way better than most.

[@AmirFaridGani]

this explanation makes me love the art of rallying

[@goncalomarques251]

Wyatt Knox, just found your video out of the blue and I must congratulate you for going for 30 min straight, non-stop delivering quality info. Thanks bro, highly appreciated!

[@TheAAron1830]

Really helpful for someone who wants to start rallying.... thank you Team O'Neil...

[@SheetFiber]

thanks, my Dirt Rally skill increased.

[@RallyDriva]

I always get excited at these new videos. Wyatt is so well versed and at home in front of a camera!

[@neokoga]

What a phenomenal breakdown for beginners. Well done.

[@jakeritzman1720]

I've always had a really casual appreciation for rallying on the level of "cars going down windy dirt courses is pretty cool", I just started getting into it more and wanted to understand the more technical side, it all makes sense after watching this. It really isn't as complicated as it seems (despite there sometimes being a lot of information like the R4+/lgsmcr into L3-

[@marianpyter5948]

you absolutely nailed it sir!!! great, informative video!! no fucking around, product palcements, subscription bullshit etc; just pure content and I love it!

[@metaomicron72]

*"Quick short video"* (I check the time...30 min)

[@RedJLP]

In comparison to actual lessons, he may have a point.

[@davecarsley8773]

The age of the universe is about 14 billion years... 30 minutes is unbelievably quick.

[@AriIskanderKrohnBerle]

@@davecarsley8773 Haha! Love it...

[@uketone]

Get on with it

[@oaz8]

its short dude for detailed lessons

[@wingman8314]

This was actually a huge help. Like I have been driving blind till now. Thanks man!

[@Officeninja428]

This is by far one of the best pace notes explanations that I’ve ever seen thanks so much!

[@Bluedevil82nd]

This is really good! I'm considering getting into this with my son. Very clearly explained and super informative.

[@phil73805]

By far the best video on this topic I've come across, and I've watched quite a few. Thanks!

[@davidremdog9184]

Thanks Team O'Neal for the excellent class on notes.

[@Zulfburht]

When you skipped the tutorial in Rallying games.

[@livonianmapping3221]

Rally games dont even have tutorials sadly

[@davecarsley8773]

@@livonianmapping3221 That's rediculous--of course they do. The latest one I bought (Dirt 4) has an entire rally driving school.

[@tuningsnow]

Last one that had rally school was RBR

[@baiaili80]

@@davecarsley8773 I got Dirt 2.0 with my ps subscription. Are Dirt rally and Dirt 4 better?

[@LJT9393]

Except the tutorials just show you how to drive the car and the objective of the game. They don’t teach you all this, but they should!

[@SR-sr3fh]

Can’t believe content like this is free

[@hashrulsubzero]

Thank you for sharing this video. Nice and clear lecturing! 0:56 - 1:37 As a Malaysian, I find it quite strange after I learned about the Jemba Inertia Notes System. Not many national rally use that system especially here in Malaysia where we write our own pacenotes during the recce.

[@ARPerez]

What a great video! I've always watched rally videos and have been completely lost on what the co-driver was saying. Now I'm paying attention!!! I still think the hardest challenge is understanding the co-driver over the radio system! However, you have a great way of explaining things! Much much appreciated!

[@evergreen8509]

9:59 8...9...10..11...12 pieces of information........for two corners! good stuff

[@thaizzz]

It's impressing how interesting and well-paced this explanation was... Really felt like I attended to a class and suddenly it ended without noticing

[@BeatByATaLi]

I had a dencent understanding of pace notes before this video but I've been enlightened so much after watching this. I had a lot of issues and was frustrated at many of the pace notes in dirt rally to the point where I just drive hillclimbs and focus on the visual side to keep me going. I've never really tried this before BUT with this newfound confidence, I will actually try and make my own pace notes on gravel pikes peak and have a friend read them out and see how much time I can shed. Thank you for the valuable info. This video is amazing.

[@ritzcracka411]

The only clear explanation I have found on KZbin. Thank you.

[@metaomicron72]

I need to share this a lot, such good information and very well explained! He does a great job and he is a great instructor as well!

[@faysoufox]

I've started to play wrc9 on PC recently and didn't understand what the copilot was saying although I started to get it over time. Your video makes it much clearer. Thank you

[@CenobiteBeldar]

The way pace notes are spoken is really cool.

[@lauramulrooney5476]

This is wicked. Here in Ireland we usually say 3 Left or a 5 Right, the principal is the same. Fantastic to watch guys!

[@sivas5823]

Its 3am... I dont even own my first car yet..... I was watching it with all vigor... almost going to fall asleep n then it comes 26:10 "6 Left 5 Right 2 Left becaaauseee"..... N I went, 'Yeaaaaa thats exaactly what am talking about !! Degree of the turn first makes more sense!' Shit... need some sleeping pills man !

[@NerdyCatCoffeeee]

you do have a point. Degree of the turn makes more sence coming before the direction

[@Thomas_Bergel]

@@NerdyCatCoffeeee I actually prefer the direction first, then the degree

[@NerdyCatCoffeeee]

@@Thomas_Bergel wel, if you hear left 2 and if you hear 2 left, you will react to the second option faster. Because does it really matter which way it is if it's a 2?

[@felipeferreira00]

Dude thanks, I started playing Colin McRae Rally 3 yesterday and now I know what every board in the game means, helping me A LOT

[@darkkxzerox3422]

Give this man a raise!!! He always workin an popin up on the feed

[@taufiqutomo]

I still remembered actually writing pacenotes for my collegemate who played WRC 4 on PS2 during levels in which the game provided no navigator.

[@bobedwards8896]

Fantastic Info, we need more Rally stuff!! Thanks for putting in the time making all these videos

[@IvelLeCog]

Very very fluid explanation

[@richharr]

Rally co driving is a good read too! Can you do a video on co-driving? How to get started, training, equipment etc? Its kind of a topic not as covered or coveted as driving but equally important.

[@hoseinhadi2050]

This video was ACTUALLY really helpful. Thank you.

[@boi1996]

been playing dirt rally 4 so i came here to understand ehat the co-driver is saying 😀 so thank you very much :) :) :)

[@jacksongatens2419]

Dirt rally 4, missed the other 3 Dirt Rally games?

[@quarrena280c7]

Jackson Gatens obviously he means dirt 4 smart ass

[@AzraelFPV]

@@jacksongatens2419 ahem, 2 games

[@EaastonCams]

I love intelligent humans, gives me hope, amazing video.

[@pastydavie]

this is so awesome! such a simple yet depthy system depending on the battery of both drivers! thankyou for explaining it for beginners like me :)

[@andreevemsmarquez9420]

Wow! This is clearly explained! :D You've earned yourselves a sub ;)

[@jonmassey8124]

Very good tutorial 👍 also liked how you left all the 6 degrees of corner up so you can cross reference with all the stuff you were writing on the left.

[@raptor747-8]

Absolutely brilliant video, so practical. 👏 👏

[@hochiminrodriguez5908]

Bro this is so amazing like I actually love all this information 💪🏽

[@dokotadunn8138]

I appreciate this video more than you could imagine.

[@woodyy2125]

Very useful for dirt rally 2.0

[@jvepps]

Great explanation. Very easy to understand.

[@ProntoBinotto]

Thanks for explaining all of those information as simple as possible, also my Dirt Rally 2.0 skills are increased too

[@marcinsznn]

This video is awesome. The pacenotes finally magically became a thing I can understand and it's not black magic! Really fantastic. Subscribed.

[@the_spade32]

I don't have anything to do with rally except playing a Colin McRae Rally like 15 years ago, but that was a very interesting and coherent video, thank you.

[@teagamer187]

It's very important to simplify pace notes . Got it 👍 .

[@Cory_Springer]

Been watching a lot a rally vids, this video clears it up a lot. I was always thinking the numbers were the desired gear, but the copilots are hard to track if you don't know the lingo. Thanks for the descriptive video!

[@harrisonrawlinson5650]

Watching this makes me even more in awe of rally drivers, I wouldn’t be able to process this information whilst sat still, they can do it whilst driving 100mph on gravel in between trees and spectators

[@minbari73]

I find it hard enough to keep this stuff in my head as it's about to happen (and remember it) just in a rally sim, let alone hanging on to a actual car with gravity and real physics making things difficult.

[@clouds5]

First thing I learned the hard way is listening to the word "tightens". If you don't listen, turns that start as a 4 and then tighten into a 2 or even 1 are guaranteed to throw you off the road :D

[@newtagwhodis4535]

This content is gold! Thank you so much!!!!

[@jamescampisi7716]

Informative content! I had always wondered what these things meant.

[@jethrylfritzalarde4689]

Soo much learnings in just one video. Thanks!

[@66barreto]

Hi and thanks for tuning in

[@Wavecheckfoo]

Thank you guys! This video helped me understand rally notes so much!

[@Teamoneilrally]

Glad it helped!

[@kogagreg]

This is excellent. I’ve always wondered and now I know. Years ago I saw there was a co-driving school in England I think. I’m going to start using this as I navigate our 3rd world roads here in NYC.

[@iFoxtrotEcho]

i dont know any shit about rally but everytime i watch rally videos, im always wondering what the co-driver is saying. now im really starting to like rally. great explanation!

[@jakubsetkowski]

Thank you sir, that was best explanation I witnessed in my life, finally I can play dirt and make some progress.

[@surethebest]

That was just enlightening! Didn’t have clue before. Thank you, Wyatt

[@evanoeab9118]

I remember the first time i watched this i was in like 7th or 8th grade and i made my own custom stage with pace notes on a piece of paper and i got my friend to be my "driver" as i read the notes out, just our desk, a pencil case steering wheel, water bottle shifter and my trusty notes...we had more fun than i thought we would LUL

[@georgimonev3445]

Awesome video!!! Continue with your videos guys, I can't stop watching them!

[@baiaili80]

Perfect. Well explained. I had about a 70% understanding of what the co pilot was saying just by going through a few races, but this confirmed and cleared everything up for me.

[@KonanTheBarbarian]

I and some others do it slightly different in Ireland. My set of notes are differentiating in tightness of the road. So 1 right is basically flat out, 2 is nearly the same, 3 you slow down a bit, then 4, 5, 6, a square right and finally a hairpin

[@anthonywarwick5710]

These robo stage notes would be burned as heresy in Europe. :D Brilliant video and easily the most thorough presentation to the intricacies of the world's best motor sport.

[@DctrBread]

I always thought + and - were about road camber/road lift. notating good camber and road dips increases entry speed and safety of a given corner a lot.

[@bobby3849]

Thanks a million for this clip. I already feel and smell the winning trophy 🏆 Awesome 👏 video Thank you 🙏😍🏆😘

[@SROairsoft]

Rally games need a whole class tutorial like this.

[@eldiablo-ej7pt]

Omg, thank you so much. I begin my rally career (but in game), i dont know what the hell co driver saying. Its really helping me. Thanks man god bless you 🙏

[@inquizition9672]

First started playing dirt rally 2.0 and was confused why my co-driver kept saying "titan", when he was really saying "tighten". I was all, "what do ancient greek mythological creatures have to do with rallying?". Makes way more sense.

[@tariq1318]

Better than me when I heard "Don't Cut" as "Donut".

[@levelwithme8535]

Degrees could be helpful for some people. R90 being right square. You could have a simplified system (30, 60, 90), or you could be more specific (If 30 was 5, 25 would be 5+). I think I’d respond better to this system, because I can mentally picture an angle after hearing the degrees. I only recently got into Rally after buying Dirt 2.0, and this video really makes me wish you could change pace notes. Not only what is said but the tone. Hearing a monotone “right 1” doesn’t always register as the danger it presents. Great video. Coming up with pace notes is an art, and just one more element that makes rally so enticing.

[@tobiaszjabonski6889]

Nobody asked for this, but everyone needed.

[@photographybyliamanderson1659]

this was so helpful for watching others..

[@vinaymanjunath8430]

Beautifully explained, wow! Ur a super instructor

[@TheXalos]

he looks like Man of Steel... great video!

[@FattyDomes]

Wish learning in school was this easy

[@dieselmiro7241]

This guy should be classified as the same degree as the Drift King from the Drift Bible u know? Respect dude!!

[@CarsandComments]

Can't wait to come up and drive in the 3 day rally class in July! Great channel guys!

[@frankovercrest2317]

What about Jesus Christ Kris? What does that note means?

[@rashidvanpoppel8630]

FrankOverCrest Raly mexico right?

[@metaomicron72]

Ahah I would say about the same as Terry Harryman's "oh Dear God"

[@frankovercrest2317]

hashrulsubzero where does that one comes from?

[@drasleona6216]

i think it was one of the rallys where spectators put flamingos on the edge of a open hairpin. and the driver took them all out.

[@JohannesKonow]

rashid van poppel watch his onboards. It is (was) like almost every rally at least one "Jesus christ Kris" or just a "Jesus christ".

[@Sharpened_Spoon]

Cool to explore the psychology of absorbing the notes while driving. From driving rally sims, I can see how changing some descriptors would be really handy at points. Even sometimes the numbers get lost on long sets of instructions. "Easy" would stick better than "5" as I'd think about the shape of the corner or my intention, rather than building the image from a numerical reference.

[@TheArunVincent]

Thanks a lot brother.. Lot of usefull information for a beginner. Always following you. 👍🏻👍🏻❤️