RAM 2500 UPDATED 6.7L Cummins Diesel Engine (Details Released) | Diesel Mechanic Review

[@oherroprease207]

Two initial thoughts: I liked the non-high ouput on the 2500 because I thought of it as a de-tuned more reliable cummins. Then the big issue… cant sell trucks, so they come out with a more expensive truck. Genius!

[@Steve-yu5pf]

I wouldn’t go near it, will likely have numerous bugs to work out.

[@VvZ009]

The only reason for different output options is because of the transmission. Chrysler cant build a trans to save themselves. Look how long they kept using the 727, same design all the way to the 48re. And anyone that thinks its not the same think again, they use practically the same rebuild kit, one has and over drive and the other does not. With the ZF8 they have a trans that can handle the power and dont need to use different power tuning to try and keep the trans alive.

[@donhyatt8034]

I bought the High output 3500 to get the Aisin transmission after rebuilding the 1996 Dodge 2500 a few times before installing Bully Dogs version

[@Jay-me7gw]

Yeah but its also a different engine. Its not like they took the same exact engine and turned down the fueling to make less power. The compression ratio is higher on the non-HO which means there are internal differences which might also mean its just not as stout to begin with.

[@Baconswingriftergone]

I have a 2024 ram Laramie 2500... I've not had any problems... I got some upgrades from the dealership with different wheels and tires.. extended warranty... I don't use mine for work and so many people frown on it but who gives a turkey... If you drive it hard, service it regularly and don't abuse it... It'll last you 400k... My 2006 Cummins had 585k when traded in... Of course there was maintenance and repairs.. I live in Bellingham Washington so it doesn't really get freezing here... So no issues starting...

[@ALMX5DP]

Going back to a traditional iron block just seems like a straight cost cutting measure.

[@SONbird5112]

And it sounds like the right call too...

[@CritJ]

What’s wrong with the 6.7? Shits unkillable

[@joseeduardo4327]

Cut cost and increase price. Sounds like every oem these days

[@0HOON0]

If they can't build a durable CGI block then I guess it's an improvement.

[@Troy-y5g]

No it’s a reliability issue. Read reviews

[@robedmund9948]

Higher prices! Yeah!! JUST what John Q. Public wants and needs!!

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Well tell it to these clowns like this guy and especially jb reviews who are the loudest about wanting more more more everything

[@briancavanaugh7604]

@@wizard_of_poz4413 Then watch the channels that have weekly reviews of tradesmans...oh that's right those channels don't exist for a reason. I hear you about more and more and more, but these guys produce content and they have to produce content people will continue to watch and endless reviews of work trucks will not cut it. Ram has the lowest prices for new trucks right now nationwide, don't believe me go shop cargurus with nationwide on the distance filters and see 10-25K off msrp for 1500, 2500, and 3500. Then do the same for GM and Ford, you will be lucky to see a couple grand off from them two.

[@SouthernFarmingTV]

As long as mo fkrs are paying they won't change .

[@hank976]

There are a ton of 2024 Ram HD trucks sitting on dealer lots. They are going to need huge discounts on them!

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Because they jumped the shark on marketing

[@machaf]

who wants that 68rfe slush box?

[@marckimbrell4645]

The 6.4L has its place. Especially for someone like me who only pulls a heavy load 8-10 time a year and not very far; 25-50 miles. I just can't justify the cost of the diesel. Good review. Thanks

[@briancavanaugh7604]

Hell yes. I would love for them to make it even better as I am looking for a reason NOT to buy a diesel in the next month or so and I already like the 6.4. Test drove it, the godzilla and the L8T. The GM was an absolute dog and I want NOTHING to do with their "allison" transmission and I don't particularly care for the ford 10 speed either, and considering I'm dealing with a 2017 F350 that has fooking doors that won't close when it's cold I think I am done with Ford(I also hate the new look of the SD.) New Ram here we come.

[@RiggyRonnie]

@@briancavanaugh7604Idk bro these new trucks all the same. My 6.7 paid off not going with a new truck unless it’s truly better but these ain’t it.

[@Zenvo_ZTR]

I don't understand gassers, 100 dollars on diesel every week tho

[@UTBanjo]

Increase the Hemi displacement to 7.0-7.2L and fix the lifter issue so we can roll these things for a quarter million miles or more.

[@user-zu2bw7ig5v]

​@@briancavanaugh7604 brooo my 2019 also has doors that won't latch when it's cold I thought it was only me! I took the rubber plug out on the edge of the door the other day and ran my soldering torch in there for about 30 seconds to thaw it out. So frustrating lol

[@aarons307]

Guess we'll find out in about 6 days. Had a 2014 6.4L hemi 2500 with 4.10's and traded it off on a new 24 ford F250 with 6.8L and 4.30's. Gotta say the powertrain is a smooth unit, the programming is great, and so far with 3200 miles is more efficient than than the hemi was.

[@BryanRichardson-s3v]

Ford jumps into too try in 2025 most recalls for 2025 , just a popping start first day in 2025 January 1 2025

[@windzer]

hope u have better luck with your f250 than me mines an absolute pos so many issues im looking to trade it for a ram or chevy idk wat i want yet

[@aarons307]

@@BryanRichardson-s3v All brands have their fair share of recalls. In the 11 yrs I had the 2014 RAM I had 14 recalls & updates performed on the truck. Half of those were for programming. Its guaranteed, on any of these new computer controlled vehicles, your going to have constant recalls and updates.

[@hank976]

@@aarons307 If I would’ve had so many problems with my 2016 Ford F-150 there would be a F-350 7.3 gas truck sitting in my driveway. I need a heavy duty truck and I’m having trouble deciding which one to purchase.

[@briancavanaugh7604]

@@hank976 Just bought a used 2017 F350 and we LOVED IT! That is until it rained and then dropped below freezing and now the fooking doors won't close on passenger side without using a hair dryer on them for 10 minutes, eating the lose and getting a Ram. Fooking ford. The new fords felt like garbage on the inside when we tested them, just cheap everything and I don't like them on the outside either, those headlights are trash IMO, thats why we went used I actually like the 2017, no I LOVE it but I cant trust the truck. It's our family tow vehicle and there is no way I trust this thing anymore, done with Ford. Guess we will have three mopar in the driveway soon.

[@Timfield.42]

Seems like cummins went smart and addressed reliability issues over adding more power. Which is good, the average Joe doesn't need 1200+ ft lbs! At this point they are all just in a D measuring game, I'm happy with my 24 6.7 SO, it does what I need it to do in terms of powertrain.

[@joepiker]

Very good explanation of the changes to Cummins 6.7...even I could understand it!

[@GettysGarage]

I tried to make it as simple as possible!

[@joepiker]

@@GettysGarage Yes, you did a good job. You are a very good presenter. I went back and watched your video on the Ford w/ 7.3 being dyno-ed. That truck is just like my 97 F350. Good luck to you in 2025!

[@georgedoolittle9015]

People are simply going to have to get used to 6 figure pickup trucks that are pure play ICE platforms as this is a Wall Street thing has been for some time. Having said that those selling these still need to find a buyer so asking for the maximum amount for the price might see a Dealer throw in all that and more to close a sale yes, yes? Tesla Cybertruck will be powering ahead for 2025 as will the Chevy Silverado EV so pays to shop around at the moment as those prices in particular for Tesla which is an entirely new automotive company *THAT DOES WANT YOUR BUSINESS* I think those that shop around will be surprised at the deals that will be available for 2025 for those willing to wait. Verdict: how about a massive actual boat for all that money instead?😊😊

[@andyharman3022]

Cummins probably went back to conventional gray iron to reduce machining cost. CGI is considerably harder than gray iron. If they had a stress problem with the CGI block, it would have been an easy revision to the casting to eliminate stress concentrations with hardly any impact on weight.

[@GettysGarage]

I would agree with that.

[@wethepeople3670]

Thanks you for the info. Happy New Year! Why would they go back to glow plugs instead of just fixing the grid heater. 🙄That's mind blowing for me.

[@gordonfamilyforge134]

good opportunity for a glowplug delete kit and monster ram with resistive heater.

[@20team73]

Worth a lot coming from you! Thanks again man!

[@jacobcornelius1278]

Running a “glow plug” style plug in my 2012 6.7 in a banks monster ram, never had an issue with it starting. The oil filter being relocated sounds great cause getting to them now is a pain in the ass.

[@davidsmith3623]

I just got a 2018 2500 Ram back in September with the Cummins. Regular cab. Only had 45000 on it. So far so good. Love this truck. Paid 38k for It. They gave me 15K for my 2018 Regular cab Chevy Silverado W/T with 90k on it.

[@SterlingClark-f7h]

It’s gonna run great because it has the flat tappet lifter. Don’t trade it in for a 19-24 ram Cummins there shit. Hydraulic lifters fail all the time I’ve got one in the shop right now getting a motor put in it for a drop valve a 2019 cabin chassis 3500 truck.

[@keithfowler66]

I would strongly suggest a Banks Monster Ram upgrade and get rid of the grid heater. Also service your transmission at 30-50k mi with deeper pan, ATS thermal bypass and billet screw on filter upgrade. Those few upgrades will substantially increase the life of your truck.

[@kcwkembm]

My ram has 550k. I dont do any of what you said and truck is running great

[@OrionTheOwtlaw]

Additional 10hp will be canceled out with weight of iron block/glow plugs and slightly heavier manifold and turbo.

[@garreysellars5525]

And emissions shit Causeing more fuel burn 😮 Diesel fitter Australia 🌏

[@GettysGarage]

lol this is a solid point

[@garreysellars5525]

​@@GettysGarage Have an 08 ram Cummins in Australia Won't be buying anything new Have got this to 9.8 litre per 100 Ks 10.3sec over 200meter Smoking tyres through to 3gear😮

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Dude glow plugs don't weigh anything

[@OrionTheOwtlaw]

@wizard_of_poz4413 I understand that as technically false. But please, don't make my post something that you interpret so as-a-matter-of-fact-ly. Geeze, aren't you dorks tired of arguing negligible points about stuff online. The main point is the block is heavier and now has more parts. Let it be that.

[@Lq32332]

Oil filters should always be on top. My VW Tiguan has one and it is the easiest filter change. Meanwhile my Ram 1500 Hemi placed the oil filter in the worst location they could think of to make sure you pour oil over everything.

[@darkglide24]

Ram has the worst locations but the Cummins r worse having to go through the passenger wheel well then turn it sideways and dump it to get it out.

[@Cloud30000]

Oil filters on top increase convenience but decrease reliability, as the oil now needs to be pumped up to get to the filter which is less effective with a cold engine vs a filter that the oil naturally settles to and is assisted by gravity even when ice cold.

[@dashcam5398]

@Cloud30000 Jeep and Chrysler v6 also has a top filter and they are known for bad lifters after extensive miles due to the top filter that gives you a dry start every time,.

[@35057]

i’m not hating the top load cartridge oil filter. i’m glad to see they’re at least updating this platform, other than the lifter failure.

[@kristenwitchey5167]

Never had an issue with the old grid heaters starting in cold weather. 100% agree with Travis!

[@GettysGarage]

lol Traviss was not a fan

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Its not the grid heater, cummins just naturally start easier even when they don't have a grid like mine

[@sounboy4498]

The CGI blocks are used by many other manufacturers and hold up to the task. The issue with the cummins CGI block design they used had weak points at the mains and cam journals.

[@Youngmechanical]

Where you get this information? More interested to hear about the Cam Journals.. that doesn't have very much pressure on it beside valve spring pressure. Not sure why they would find a weakness there.. how many cummins engines have you rebuilt?

[@sounboy4498]

@Youngmechanical I work for Cummins seen enough failures and core returns, primarily the main bearing area cheaped out on material

[@sounboy4498]

@Youngmechanical BTW I do infrrames and full overhauls routinely.

[@Youngmechanical]

@@sounboy4498 good to hear someone with some experience. From my understanding the CGI was going to be more rigid of a block but if they removed material to compensate I understand. I am also an industrial engine guy but large Nat. Gas. Stuff

[@sounboy4498]

@Youngmechanical the CGI material can stand up to the task once done rite.

[@toddjones7595]

Electric drive train with a diesel generator to charge batteries and allow the consumer to pick the size of the fuel tank, the potential for a 1,000 mile range is there. Check out Edison Motors, they are building semi logging trucks and Ram is coming out with the Ramcharger very soon, but that is still a plug in, which I don't get.

[@ruggedindsoup2135]

I’m glad that they are going to try to improve the 6.4 Hemi too. I like that engine. It just needs a few tweaks for more reliability and efficiency. Hopefully that works.

[@lloydswartz7354]

For sure. Just a reasonable bump in power, lifters and exhaust manifold/ coolant passage issue and they would be a hell of an engine

[@gen1c8rs88]

Should be 6.8L as well.

[@williamhsteele]

Yeah the engine doesn’t need to have more HP & TQ, it needs to be reliable. Go back to cast iron and OG roller/lifter setup from the early 6.7 design. I wouldn’t care if the thing only made 350 hp as long as it doesn’t have catastrophic failures like they do now.

[@ruggedindsoup2135]

Agreed. It seems like all the manufacturers want it all. They want the most HP, most torque, best payload, best towing… Maybe concentrating on being best at one of two things would be a good plan. I’m much more interested in good power and reliability. Easier, more convenient maintenance would be nice too. I think their reliability numbers would increase if it were cheaper and easier to do oil changes and fuel filter changes.

[@williamhsteele]

@ im with ya on that.

[@LindsayPeters987]

Love the cummins content. Great vid! Happy new year

[@AZFarmFun-hp1cu]

3:45 So a 75 pound weight reduction is “significant” on a 8,000 pound truck? I suppose if less than 1% is significant.

[@JBidensucks]

Yea that was clearly just dont to save costs as its MOST LIKLY the same block the commercial engine is using. But hey, atleast you can have problematic glow plugs, an experimental IP based off a known POS IP pump, and an experimental Turbo to compliment your awesome ZF transmission......and ALLLLL at a HIGHER price tag 😂😂🎉🎉🎉 im sure this will work out great

[@jfitz9624]

@@AZFarmFun-hp1cu and that’s why they ditched CGI. It cost a lot more money than iron for just 75lbs.

[@seanb2897]

75lbs is significant when he's only talking about engine and not the entire truck. it's about 8% weight reduction of the entire engine. Overall, for the truck, you're right. especially for a diesel. take 75lbs out of my Camaro, whole other game.

[@Jay-me7gw]

I personnally think the ZF8 speed is going to be a bigger deal than the power bump, at least for the 2500.

[@doublej963]

It'll be a interesting watch to see how they do. Thanks for the video brother 🤝

[@SALTYDATTO]

Thank you for this breakdown! I just hope they didnt take too many shortcuts trying to save a penny for each engine. But I'll keep my 04 CR 5.9 as long as I can!

[@jjhughesracing]

According to a major aftermarket engine rebuilder, when they get a 2019 CGI 6.7L (because it is out of warranty) core, 5 of 8 have a cracked crankshaft and a rod out the side. The block flexes so bad that the crankshaft cracks and chaos ensues. Blocks are unavailable because there is only one source and they are all going to RAM.

[@kylecooper4508]

Nice video once again! With the mention of the grid heater bolt failure, did you ever experience that with the school bus fleet or any of your personal vehicles/friends vehicles?

[@DY22HW]

As so many trucks (both half-ton and HD models) now have turbo chargers can you do a video about the different types, which vehicles are more reliable and how to look after the turbo chargers to make them last as they are very expensive to replace.

[@DanielPerryRally]

As a 12v owner, hearing about glowplugs in a cummins makes my head hurt. As goofy as the old grid heater and fuel heater delete ends up, ive never had issues with this truck starting. Im so out of the loop with these new trucks.

[@michaelpincavitch5245]

I've seen 2019s and up with the CGI block with well over 300k and no issues and even undeleted

[@jimf1450]

Yeah nobody ever states when the bad blocks were made, like everything else during the covid era maybe there's a period of really bad quality.

[@deanster3435]

Seems like a pretty big improvement with a few caveats, just kinda wished they had a cheaper S.O. variant bc not everyone's gonna need over 1000lbs of torque in a diesel nor can afford it for 12k+

[@richarddevito7711]

It seems like everyone is having trouble with the roller lifter valve trains, is this the best we can do?

[@billsmotrilla6215]

All Stallantis cares about is maximizing profit. They save costs with the cast iron block and can raise price with the higher output that has no added cost to produce.

[@mikethetoolman8776]

should have dropped bosch and gone to Denso system like duramax did !

[@SatanKarma1]

Stelantis is the one pulling the strings with the requirements

[@techs1smh13]

@@mikethetoolman8776 💯

[@JoelDean-f9n]

Excited about the revised Hemi that will be interesting

[@2wheelAdv]

Man I miss the old school, last forever diesel motors. FYI, I see the KLIM logo. What you ride?

[@Jassman3536]

more interested in the improved 6.4 vs the diesel. Gas makes more sense when you break it down for the average person towing twice a week. I tow daily, and heavy 15-17k with our 7.3 and the savings in maintenance and fuel is about 1700.00 per year. Hopefully the 6.4 will be competitive. The 7.3 has been great and the 6.6 gas is just as good but a lil weak when towing heavy up hills.

[@0HOON0]

@@Jassman3536 +1 The current 6.4 is junk IMO.

[@garreysellars5525]

Gasoline is tooooo thirsty 😮

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Gas hogs never make sense unless you want a disposable toy

[@Jassman3536]

@@wizard_of_poz4413 163k on our 2021 7.3 hot shot truck and 90k on my personal 2020 7.3 makes a lot of sense. No issues to date other than battery's. Every Cummins, powerstroke or Duramax has given us issues with fuel system, injector failures, fuel contamination, and pump malfunctions. They don't pull like diesel but get the job done with less maintenace and fuel costs.

[@brian2359]

@@garreysellars5525 It is, but you can buy a lot of gas for the $12,000 diesel!

[@skitzo4215]

So now even the base models will be out of reach for a lot of us

[@GettysGarage]

Yes sir

[@jeffs2809]

I def don’t have any love for price increases, but if $3k is putting a $55-60k truck “out of reach”, it was too expensive for you anyway. Also, my opinion, a base model truck is just that…BASE. Starting with the gas engine that’s $12k cheaper.

[@2010drive]

Yes, not everyone can afford to buy a new truck boo hoo

[@dylanbailey2812]

@@jeffs2809 I wonder if the overall prices will go up, though. Streamlining the manufacturing to just 1 engine will be cheaper for Ram. How much cheaper, who knows?

[@jeffs2809]

@ I have little doubt that they’ll find some way to raise prices.

[@kenmunozatmmrrailroad6853]

RELIABILITY!!! That’s what we want.

[@ProbeGT2]

Were they doing cgi blocks only for the ram trucks? If so, it might explain why they went back to cast iron. Only 1 block production line for all applications.

[@roadglide1142]

They can keep it! Lol 😂 My 2023 2500 6.4 Hemi is paid for !

[@jamesj5130]

I was waiting to see if they make another 7.0 Hemi (426) but for the 2500 it would be cool as hell to get an updated one that can compete with ford's 7.3 godizilla so what if it gets 10-12 mpg put it behind an 8 speed ZF and make it put out 500hp and 525ft lbs of torque if you design it right it could be competitive and if they redesign a next gen hemi with a better oiling system they'll be better than everything else in terms of reliability that was the only flaw was a weak oil pump and that can be fixed for a few hundred dollars.

[@stephaneracicot791]

note to self when crossing a frozen creek and u encounter thick ice and realy need to cross it remember this.....turn around use the rear of the vehicle to break the ice not the front youl blow your radiator,,,,then turn around once u cross it in reverse .and proceed with your trip or going to your mine site or logging operation.....

[@S.T.F.U.19084]

I'd rather change a glow plug than the grid heater. And their sales is suffering because they're charging 100K plus for a 50k truck

[@mikevaughan7681]

Long time Cummins … the grid was way better then glow plugs reliability and cold starting… till recently.. everything going to💩in modern Cummins diesel engines as far as reliability

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

​@mikevaughan7681 has nothing to do with the grid and they're leaps better than the v8s

[@jeffs2809]

Never had a grid heater go bad in 20+ years & the grid heater bolt “issue” was practically unheard of until a certain company needed to market their aftermarket intake horn.

[@itruck96]

​@jeffs2809 That old timer always puts too much mustard on the hot dog.

[@destinhook3826]

@@jeffs2809nail on the head!

[@Foofrarf23]

Jesus Christ that grille AND the headlights are absolutely huge...

[@TheWookie_USN]

Yea I dont care what kind of revisions Bosch made to the CP4, it’s a nonstarter for me. And today in the news ford recalled 300K F250/350 diesels for fuel pumps. They finally got around to dealing with their own cp4’s.

[@anthonyremley1575]

Ford only recalled the 2020 and newer powerstrokes even though all 6.7 powerstrokes 11-current use the cp4 🤣🤣 makes sense

[@rambleon2838]

Watch Dave's Auto Center tear down on the 900,000 mile Ford diesel with the original CP4. In the first video the owner talks about the maintenance on his rig.

[@techs1smh13]

@TheWookie_USN ford is now blaming covid. Today on JB reviews channel

[@TheWookie_USN]

@ yep

[@AZFarmFun-hp1cu]

1:53 , Eh not to put too fine a point on it, but my 2018 Ram 2500 was/is rated at 370 hp and 800 ft-lbs torque from the factory. So the new 2025 keeps the same hp and gains 50 ft-lbs of torque.

[@alanwilson4208]

One thing to consider is that here in Australia we have these engines in buses, and they are detuned to 320hp and have no problems pushing a bus that weights 20 tonnes.

[@handleymacdonald5760]

What bus weighs 20 tons?

[@Lexlugr]

​@@handleymacdonald5760 pretty much all metro transit types and coach buses, though admittedly that high of a GVW would typically run 9-12L engines

[@RMC2021]

20 tons???? What the hell kind of bus are you talking about?

[@alanwilson4208]

Uh yeah, school buses in Australia weigh 20 tonnes when fully loaded. There are a lot of corrugated dirt roads out here that the buses use to get to school.

[@RMC2021]

@@alanwilson4208 I can’t see anything more than 25-30 tons but okay. Either way it doesn’t matter what HP you are running as long as it’s geared low enough it’ll be sufficient.

[@VMac822]

Love the outtro 😂

[@harryniedecken5321]

Would really like to see the Cummins octane engine in the 3500 megacab

[@LaurieNCooper]

Great info!! 👍👍

[@DyingCatalyst]

Maybe I'm just dumb which I could be, but a 3k increase for the diesel engine in an already super expensive market is gonna be insane. Like I may not need a diesel but I want a diesel cause they're cool and sound cool, but they're getting so expensive it's kinda never gonna be worth getting a diesel unless you use it for business. idk I feel like I'll never be able to afford one just cause maintenance and the fact that if one thing goes wrong it's over for you. Also I get that the cp4 puts out more power but I feel like that's gonna be a bite in the ass. Love the content Alex keep it up!

[@GettysGarage]

These trucks are now luxury items. either you have money to burn or you actually need to tow 15,000+ lbs. the average guy just can't afford these trucks anymore unfortunately.

[@sunnyvalejedi]

How about an upgraded cab?

[@TheWookie_USN]

Speaking of the 6.7 roller lifters, can you explore in a video the solid lifter conversions that are out there?? What do you think. Just curious.

[@robertjohnson2465]

What about the Cab & Chassis trucks? Wonder if Ram will still make the Cab & Chassis owners put up with a lower power Cummins engine? I really hate that they don't make the HO available for the C&C truck owners.

[@aaronphillips2728]

I dont understand whats wrong with glow plugs. Never had cold start issues with any of our 6.7l powerstrokes or 6.6 duramax

[@thinkfirst6431]

It used to be that a Ford truck with a Cummins engine and an Allison trans would have been the hot ticket. Times change the new Ford 10 speed auto trans is probably better than the Allison and there were too many failures with the Cummins injectors among other things to make it reliable.

[@MaineOutdoorsChannel]

cast iron block a move in the right direction

[@jameshamm7911]

Have you noticed more torquing failures on the composite block on the HO vs SO engines? I have a 2022 SO 3500 and am curious if I can expect a failure coming.

[@richardmoeller3143]

I heard the reason for cast iron block is they had more failures with the CGI blocks and also the roller lifters have been strengthened

[@Cobruhh93]

They had way too much material removed around the main bearings with the CGI block. If they would have had more material it would have been even stronger than gray iron

[@sounboy4498]

@@Cobruhh93 preach it

[@sounboy4498]

Cummins uses roller lifters in other engines and for the most part they held up,

[@vicgeier3482]

Cast iron will flex better if necessary and the valvetrain is improved

[@KDL54]

Is the heater grid bolt and issue on the commercial Cummins? I currently have 5 new busses in my fleet, all with Cummins And I've yet to find the answer to this question

[@Cloud30000]

This change will help boost the aftermarket grid heater field

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Do what

[@vicgeier3482]

​@@wizard_of_poz4413what grid heater

[@firedtradesman]

Wonder what will go in the 4500 & 5500 if the standard output engine is going away. Seems the medium duty commercial trucks always have reduced HP & TQ. Maybe they'll just detune it.

[@sounboy4498]

@firedtradesman generally, that's what is done indeed. Am assuming both 4500 and 5500 trucks will be detuned as well thats what's generally done

[@vicgeier3482]

All diesels are the same

[@dreadedtred]

I got a question. If you don’t pull something heavy with a diesel will it cause problems with the diesel truck? I ask this because that’s what my local dodge told me. I owned a 3500 4X4 dually and didn’t have any problems not pulling something heavy. Let me know.

[@truman4853]

Hint “local dodge” they might be wanting you to come in yk$ however I think you don’t need to pull anything

[@philhyde983]

Any more info about the ZF 8 speed?

[@alexlindekugel8727]

ive never had issuse with glow plugs. i dont really get the hate on them.

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Lots of them break off in powerstrokes

[@alexlindekugel8727]

@@wizard_of_poz4413 that would do it.

[@rufushusky]

7.3 and 6.0 used Beru (11v, not 12v) glow plugs. When properly functioning they were ok. However as they age or if the GPR(7.3) got tired their performance suffered considerably. Also the 11v ceiling on the plugs was a pain if you ran a high amp alternator, the ECM either cut the GPs early or you brunt them out. Hence why the 7.3 only came with 110 amp alternators, even the duals where a pair of 110amps in the fords. The 6.7 PSD uses glow plugs and they work great. No issues starting below zero unassisted. I wouldn't worry about them IMHO. The gps in my 6.7 PSD start much better than the grid heater I had in my 5.9 CR Cummins.

[@jordanficek4805]

I use my exhaust brake all the time it gets turned on when I fire the truck up and Iv had zero issues with my actuator 🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️🤷🏼‍♂️

[@garyschulz9216]

I changed mine out to a banks inlet elbow and have no problem. Bring back the manifold heater that was on the 5.9. Gees should’ve kept it, no def, no cat no problem never smoked. Hind sight……

[@landscapingspecialist]

Time will tell. Not jumping headlong into a new iteration. Have 2 2018 5500 CC’s and 2 2019 3500 SRW’s. So I’m good for about 4 more years. Wanna see how these do before I buy another 90-100k truck.

[@RTrevino16]

Dang!!! What the heck do you do for a living!!?

[@James-lp5]

I've been looking for a new 2500HD diesel truck but I've been leaning more towards GM only because I want a practical single cab truck which are obviously priced less than the extra cab but I know Cummins has a good reputation for longevity and durability but 3 things keeping me away from Dodge are 1: Their auto transmissions didn't hold up well under heavy towing (excluding the ZF trans. that hasn't been in a lot of Dodge trucks so it has yet to be known) 2: Very hard to find a Dodge single cab 2500HD with a Cummins platform and 3: Price is too high, so far the GM Duramax 2500HD 4x4 single pro model is the only truck that's close to my price range and seems to check off all the right boxes. 🤷‍♂

[@eugenex.p.3430]

Great freaking video

[@jefflamb2900]

I wonder if with the new transmission will the shifter be on the steering column like before or will it be that shifter knob that the 1500s have

[@notme3184]

It will have an electronic shifter like a dial. The ZF transmissions don’t have mechanical linkage.

[@loveracing1988]

It will keep a collum shifter. It may just be an electronic version but it won't be the dial.

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Its column shift

[@jeffs2809]

Could be column, dial or even buttons.

[@notme3184]

@@wizard_of_poz4413 How would you know it’s a column shift when zero vehicles with a ZF have a column shift

[@Treesusb]

Are they gonna fix the lifters?

[@badopinion]

Nice filter locations. Our family car has it that way and it’s great while My Nissan pisses all over!

[@bryonricketts385]

Bosch CP4 fuel pump = disaster when they implode themselves. Very big repair bills. Hopefully they have redesigned or improved this pump!!

[@rock-uu7qr]

Think dodge is gonna have to start putting L5ps in them at this point

[@DaleKalk]

I understood the horsepower was going to 440 and the torque to 1100.

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

I find glow plugs work better than grid heaters

[@sinfulcoin]

I was really hoping for a displacement bump on this new engine 😢

[@samstahl9510]

The graphite iron blocks were a flop that’s why Cummins went back to cast iron blocks

[@FarmStrong88]

As a midwest farmer, i know 4 local guys that have shredded cgi blocks in less than 70k miles and no one buys Rams that use their trucks for work so thats saying something.

[@melissasmess2773]

Weird, my 1995 Ram Cummins 12 valve is still perfect. 😗

[@bmclemore8203]

As a diesel mechanic, I can say I've seen farmers tear up just as many ford's and chevy's. Hell, farmers can tear up a steel ball in a rubber room. I'm not sure who is worse for maintenance, farmers or loggers. Seems like a race to the bottom with their ideas of maintenance.

[@FarmStrong88]

@ you must be where all the rich farmers are that can afford to break stuff an pay someone to fix it.

[@kcwkembm]

My 2018 ram has 550k. Used for work and play. Ive had to put in new injectors...thats it. Sounds like those farm boys are abusing the trucks

[@FarmStrong88]

@ yes we do abuse trucks, thats why we buy Fords…every harvest i come across the scales over 45k lbs pulling grain wagons in my 500k mile F250 6.0 thats had nothing but injectors and one or two sensors. Hell ive seen guys pull 2000 gallon water tanks with chevy colorados. Never buy a used farmers truck, we actually use them and wayy passed the mfr rated limits.

[@drewbond1]

Commercial engines use solid roller lifters.

[@pc5569]

Interesting to hear they are going away from the CGI block. Probably a reason. The heater grid nut was a real bummer for those that lost an engine because of it. I would have thought a redesigned or repositioned grid heater might have worked but there isn't anything wrong with glow plugs.

[@mini2nut67]

I’m glad to see that Ram avoided the never ending HP and torque war with the other big 2. They focused on improving the existing inline 6 Cummins diesel and installed a better transmission.

[@777theright88]

Can you test midsize trucks?

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Do what

[@jameseroh6544]

The ZF 8-speed transmission is a big deal with the 3.73 or 4.10 rear ratio. The 3.42 ratio is for the speed demon 90mph cruisers. With the ZF 8-speed, 4.10 ratio, the 4cyl ISB engine would be the ticket. Since 35 or 37" tires are a popular upgrade on 4wd. The 10k GVW is the threshold for having a medical card in many commercial uses. Plus, clearance lights are required above 10k gvw. These are usually harassment tickets but are legitimate in the law.

[@rickkennedy9501]

There were pieces of the CGI block were showing up in the oil in multiple trucks.

[@acs66562]

Lifter issue is well known? Wtf. My next new truck is going to be a gas motor. Haven’t had one since 1998.

[@rigon63]

Just remember the relationship between stellantis and cummins. Many of the design characteristics are specified by stellantis at their own detriment. Just wait until everyone finds out about how bad the new aftertreatment systems are. This model year was designed by a skeleton crew during covid and its going to be rough for a while from an engine standpoint From what I've seen so far, the chassis cab version is going to be a better engine

[@darylhannon4723]

Maybe you need a 6.7 v8 Cummins.

[@cactuscanuck6802]

IF Ram is smart with the 6.4 Hemi, they'll source a RELIABLE cam and lifter maker, ditch the MDS, and dump any oil pump that is not Hi-volume and Hi-pressure even at low idle RPM. Just go straight to Melling. If Ram does that, they will very soon own the HD gasser market.

[@Anonymous..VQ3.5Lg35]

New duramax doesn't have the cp4 they went with a denso pump

Ford should drop the Godzilla the 5.4 and make a 7L coyoteXL and they would make everyone happy except the competition.

[@AK_Ray]

You sir just won. Congratulations dumbest comment in the comment section award goes to you.

[@GroovesAndLands]

Sounds like a monstrosity that would solve a problem that doesn't exist. The whole point of the 7.3L gas engine is it packs a lot of cubic inches into a compact package. Undoubtedly, OHC creates much better valvetrain action... But that's only helpful for high rpm use. The OHV configuration doesn't tend to become a problem until more than 6000*rpm; where the 7.3L doesn't operate.

[@ppump24valve53]

Honestly, I was a Cummins fan, but I’m definitely turning more n more towards a new Ford powerstroke for a diesel. Simply because the 6.7 powerstroke is overbuilt, has steel pistons from the factory, and made in the USA! That would be reason enough for me to buy 1. If Rams were USA designed and built, and the Cummins weren’t cheapened to crap, like hydraulic lifters, and cgi weakened blocks, Absolutely 100% would stay with Cummins.

[@dafiro03]

How about transmission ?????

[@Bigtuna-jh9uq]

If it's a completely new pump design why not call it a CP-5 or similar?

[@wizard_of_poz4413]

Its the cp8

[@perryreasch1209]

THE HEAT IS TOO HOT THAT IS WHY THE BOLT FALLS BUT THEY HAVE A RESISTER TO LOWER THE VOLTAGE it burns off that is the problem

[@osrr6422]

Its really getting to the point where if you want an HD truck, and only tow a couple times a year (if that, lets be honest). Just get the gas motor, my L8T does everything I ask of it. The diesels are getting to damn complicated, never mind the extra expense on regular maintenance and emissions (DEF, etc). Some of us would've been fine with a half ton (including me), didn't want to deal with the MPG gimmicks the V8s get. Someone will probably still argue with me cause DiEsEL BETTTTERRRRR. 😑