Ram Power Wagon Vs. Cummins 2500 Full Size Comparison

The age old question we get asked ALL THE TIME! Which Ram 2500 is the better choice, the Power Wagon or the Cummins? We go into what we think is better and why along with showing you some never before seen footage of the Death Valley run we did while filming our Amazon Prime series "Brotherhood of Brew".
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[@JkRubicon]

I just went through a 2 month research on trucks for hunting/camping needs. Test drove a bunch and ended up ordering 75th anniversary edition PW. Both have their place, but an all-inclusive package that PW offers - couldn’t beat it.

[@dave410791]

Love my 75th AE!

[@RogueElement]

It really is hard to beat! It’s a great rig!!

[@jmiller3v]

You are going to love your 75th! Build #0158

[@ananasv10]

ha ha I did exactly same 75 anniversary

[@Barefoot-Bob]

i have the 2020 on thuren suspension and 37 toyos . in green pearl we named her OLIVE !! love my PW!

[@johnfitzgerald5158]

Owner of a '13 PW here. I can tell you that you didn't even come near to challenging the PW on that trail. You are spot on about the hidden winch. Not much else out there has the approach angle that he PW has with a 12,000 warn winch on it. With sliders, aftermarket high clearance bumpers and diff guards you would be amazed what it can do. The articulation in combo with the lockers keeps it planted and in control on some pretty crazy terrain. It takes a lot to lift a wheel.

[@RogueElement]

Yeah, Death Valley doesn't offer a lot of technical spots. We've taken these rigs on much worse, this was just a small example and Christian's first real test in his PW but we were obviously let down a tad thinking we'd have more difficult trails. Was still a lot of fun.

[@dannymagana5328]

2022 PW owner here.. I also chose the PW over a Cummins due to not having much to tow. Also not ready for the turbo lag on the highway. Going to ride with the PW for a while until I can't take the MPG anymore and make the switch over to diesel. Other than that I absolutely love the PW it is a great truck and the new Level 3 package gives you lots of new tech goodies!

[@RogueElement]

So far the only grip for us now that we have two power wagons is the gas mileage and they can’t tow as much as the diesel but that’s a fair trade off for the Offroad capabilities and smaller price tag

[@huasohvac]

I have a 2022 2500 with a Cummins and I dont notice any turbo lag when i floor it on the freeway to pass someone. Actually the throttle is very responsive and I was actually suprised by how fast it accelerated for a almost 7k lbs truck

[@whackityschmackitydo]

Your annual fuel costs will be the same or slightly higher if you go from around 13-14 mpg combined on 87 octane to 19ish mpg combined on diesel. Not to mention the higher cost of the truck and higher maintenance costs (DEF included).

[@Sinsofcarolina]

@@huasohvac was about to comment the same. The Cummins lives for the highway speeds and accelerates very fast in this rpm range. Off the line is where it’s pretty slow. Picked up a Banks pedal monster and this helps some with the response at all rpm ranges

[@djw5415]

I appreciate your true honesty on the topic 👍🏻

[@RogueElement]

Always!

[@RhinoRam]

Are you sure they both have the same payload? I am 99% sure that with the PW's different suspension that it was closer to a 1500's Payload.

[@RogueElement]

Nope...talking about tow capacity, not payload

[@mckinneyguy]

You are correct. PW has soft rear springs reducing payload. PW also has lower tow rating of about 10k vs 14k on a reg 2500

[@CoryTheCanadian]

Yes your correct, in the vid he said the same payload, it’s not even close. Power wagon is the same as a Honda Ridgeline around 1300lbs Towing also not even close , power wagon is 10,000lbs give or take a couple hundred lbs and the Cummins you can get it optioned to toe close to 20,000lbs. My 2500 non power wagon was good for towing up to 17,000 lbs with the same gas 6.4 same 4.10 gears and same transmission

[@pickledcottoncandy]

I'd love to be able to have the power wagon with the cummins. All of the lockers and sway bar disconnect goodies that comes with the wagon. Everything the same but the engine.

[@RogueElement]

Stay patient…it’s coming soon

[@georgederocher8202]

Maybe consider a Cummins with the factory off road package. Most of the goodies as the Power Wagon, can't recall off hand what is left off. I think TFL did a test on one. I currently have a 2014 SLT stock (pretty much a Tradesman with a few more goodies, most SLT's were fleet rentals, as was mine.), I'm pleasantly surprised where I can actually go with sensible driving. No lift planned (reasons) but I do want to upgrade shocks and bumpers, add a winch, perhaps a Truelock and sway disconnect. As I'm sure you know, the biggest limitation is the sheer size of the truck.

[@Outlaw1125]

It’s the sound… big facts

[@lifeisgoodoutdoors8915]

I’m torn between both sides. I like the off road amenities that the power wagon offers but the Cummins is just one kick ass motor. Awesome video and thanks for sharing!

[@RogueElement]

It’s quite the dichotomy! They are both basically equal! Comes down to those damn motors! Haha

[@Sdukes001]

Get a Cummins and a Carli suspension perfect👌🏼

[@precisionmarksmanshiphq773]

I ordered a 2022 PW...I ordered everything on it except for the Backup Alarm... It's in D1 Status now...I'd say 8-12 week wait...I already ordered a Carli Suspension (Backcountry) and some wheels with 37s for it...(I'll sell the factory wheels and tires)...Only reason I went with the 2022 over the 75AE is that I wanted the upgraded electronics and the only thing I can't get is brown interior which I don't care either way...All other options are available (except the 75th AE Badge) in the Level 3 Package.....Great video comparison, If I had a lot of weight to tow or haul, a diesel rig would be my choice, but since my trailer is less than 2k lbs loaded, I won't even notice....Stay blessed...

[@RogueElement]

Good luck with it all! You’ll love it and worth the wait

[@SFZM]

Thanks for the honest review, and solid footage What Tyre/ wheel combo are you running ? Any upgrade to the undercarriage/ suspension? Under armour ? I’ve heard running 37” and doing a lot of wheeling you’re gonna pay the price having to replace ball joints etc .. any thoughts experience ?

[@RogueElement]

Which rig are you referring to? the Cummins?

[@aaronalvarez2646]

@@RogueElement yes Cummins. I’m interested too

[@RogueElement]

@@aaronalvarez2646 I was running Method NV305 17” wheels on Yokohama Geolandar 37x12.5 tires. The wheels were a 0 offset and not ideal for this setup. You really need a +12 offset or bigger to clear the fenders better and get better articulation. It will also throw less mud and dirt onto the side of the truck. We are running that same wheel/tire setup on our white 2018 PW but switching to a better offset. Our new 2021 Power Wagon you can see in our latest vids has Vision 17” +12 wheels on BFG KM3 37’s with almost no rub on a Thuren level.

[@RogueElement]

The gray Cummins was just a cheap 2.5” level. We recommend getting a better Thuren level or lift. We just upgraded both power wagons to Stage 5 Thuren’s with King shocks…game changer! Worth all the money! No under armor, no ball joint issues so far with any of our rams and we’ve probably accumalitively put close to 200k miles on them all.

[@aaronalvarez2646]

@@RogueElement I have a 4th gen mega cab 6.7 and looking at just a basic/next level up from stock suspension (shocks) from thuren just don’t know what to get and don’t need the top of the line. I do have a 2.5” level on her

[@BradandDad_Adventures]

I kinda regret not getting a 2500 but I'm totally happy with my 1500.

[@RogueElement]

Can't go wrong with those either!

[@starmc26]

My '16 ram 1500 drove like a sports car compared to my new '21 power wagon.

[@abubaqir3]

Hi Guys what is that blues tune from 11:48 until to finish?

[@RogueElement]

It’s just a royalty free track we purchase a license for use from a company for filmmakers

[@brandonjjarvis]

What is your options ok ride quality between the two? Since these $50-80k+ trucks have to get us and our family back and forth from work and events I'm finding my Cummins factory suspension starting to be to harsh. Yes I can tow 25000lbs, but most of us don't anymore.

[@RogueElement]

The synergy level is great for the diesel but you really need 2.5 shocks or bigger when you lift the power wagon since it’s so much softer of a suspension. Depends on your budget. We are firm believers in Thuren fabrication if you can afford it

[@tawaitai]

@@RogueElement which is more expensive Thuren or Carli?

[@RogueElement]

@@tawaitai Carli

[@Tacvet07]

Has he had any issues with the trans on the pw I have the 2018 and mines getting a new one at 43k

[@RogueElement]

Zero issues with the whole truck

[@RogueElement]

Update: he blew his tranny out on our last trip at 48k 🤦‍♂️

[@deejay540000]

I also got a 6.7 but she's fully locked front and rear now I noticed one of your issues you are having that you mentioned the front bumper with a winch has bad approach angle check out mercenary offroad bumpers gain more clearance and approach angle and have a Warn 16.5 stuffed in it that's what I'm running works great

[@RogueElement]

Any issues with your front locker in the diesel yet?

[@deejay540000]

@@RogueElement it's only been in for a few months I went with a detroit locker in the rear the 37x13.50s overwhelmed the factory lsd and in the front im running the power wagon locker I haven't even needed to use it yet i made sure it was locking when I wired it up to a switch and that's about it but I've talked to a few people that have had the pw locker up front for a few years with no issues

[@RogueElement]

@@deejay540000 everyone we know running a front locker in the diesel has issues. Bold move on the 13.5 wide…..I hear rubbing in your future haha

[@deejay540000]

@@RogueElement I'll keep an eye on it the guys that installed it are the ones that take care of a Arizona 4x4 offroad recovery rigs which they got two rigs running the same set up i got so they had some experience with pw locker but as for as the 37x13.50s go the only thing I rub on is the radius arm and it's just enough to remove the paint doesn't limit turning or anything I'm running a +18 wheel offset and I've had this wheel/tire set up for about 2 years now I did cut and fold the pinch weld so I can stuff that tire all the way up with max turn into the wheel well with no issues as for the radius arm I'll be doing thurens new radius arms soon which will give it that extra tire clearance

[@keithreinert5835]

Kinda regret not getting the cummins. But I love my new 75th power wagon.

[@RogueElement]

It’s such a toss up! It’s really a win win situation!

[@starmc26]

The only downside is you'll have those dudes that kniw nothing about trucks making fun of you for the 6.4 hemi vs the diesel.

[@tawaitai]

I think people don’t know enough about the differences between the PW 2500 and the Diesel 2500 two totally different platforms and what they’re designed for.

[@Mike.restelli]

I went from a 2nd gen raptor to a Laramie LongHorn Cummins. I will admit, the lazy side of me likes the raptor more because it is pretty great out of the box. However, the long-term side of me sees the perks of having a 2500 diesel with some suspension mods (thorn/carli). The raptor is damn good looking but after almost any trip, there was some type of issue that would come up, it was a 2017 though. Ford actually sent me a letter of apology for it being in the shop so much. Nothing crazy like cam phasers, but random leaks all the time. The offered me 4 free oil changes though haha.

[@RogueElement]

I went the opposite and regret it! The Ram is so much more capable!

[@Mike.restelli]

@@RogueElement still hard to beat that raptor look though IMO haha.

[@RogueElement]

Yeah it looks awesome! If it were only reliable!

[@marcusreisdorf3155]

What front bumper is on the Cummins?

[@RogueElement]

Warn Elite

[@peke2283]

What about the maintance between the two?

[@RogueElement]

Less maintenance on the power wagon

[@OffroadTreks]

Need to go do that trail at 9:22

[@RogueElement]

That’s the one I tried to take you on with the wash out! We absolutely need to do that soon!

[@jasongardner1910]

What swing out tire carrier is that on the white Power Wagon

[@RogueElement]

Was a Wilco hitch tire carrier. Would not recommend

[@jasongardner1910]

@@RogueElementever found any you would recommend?

[@RogueElement]

@@jasongardner1910 they are all garbage. I’d recommend a bumper that has one built in like the chassis unlimited

[@amolinari9]

What fuel range did your 2015 2500 Cummins get and what’s the PW getting? I know the tank sizes are different. Let’s start with avg city/highway mpg and then offroad on your typical overland trip? Not towing because that’s obvious. Just with your fully loaded gear hauling. If the Cummins is only getting like 3mpg more than the PW then my decision can be made quite easily.

[@RogueElement]

I was getting between 13-15 in town with the Cummins because it doesn’t like low boost but got 16-20 highway/freeway depending on my speed. I would get around 400-500 per fill up. The PW is. Where near either of those lol. It’s a gas hog in every sense. 15mpg downhill with a back wind lol

[@amolinari9]

@@RogueElement 😂 appreciate it mate. Another reason I love my 1500 cz atleast the 5.7L hemi gets me 17 mpg avg for city/hwy = 440 miles a tank. I’m only running 33s now though. Let’s see what happens when I add 35s. I think with the 3.92s it’ll do better on highway but worse on city. Worth it though for added traction and ground clearance.

[@RogueElement]

@@amolinari9 Yeah but these rigs are also around 10,000 pounds. You start getting around 8-9k on a 1500 on 35's and you will be right there! haha. Best part about the Cummins is that it didn't lose any power with that weight. 1100lbft of torque is fun to have around! Can't wait to get another one!

[@amolinari9]

@@RogueElement touché 😎

[@maddawgnoll]

@@amolinari9 running 35's on my gen3 wagon. I get at least 400 per tank (35g). Every time she passes a gas station there's a funny slurping sound though lol thirsty truck. I love my 5.7. Of course I'm pushing better numbers than the 6.4 now. Few bolt on upgrades and built up motor done in 2017.

[@rd4501]

In the meaning of reliability which one is been the best so far??

[@RogueElement]

Been about the same to be honest. Neither have had any issues, really. The Raptor on the other hand...lol

[@rd4501]

@@RogueElement thanks for your answer here deciding between one of those 2 to make it the family vehicle 👍

[@RogueElement]

@@rd4501 it comes down to what you need in a truck. If you want superior off-road capability out of the box, 100% go with the PW. If you want longevity, pulling power and gas mileage, go with the Cummins. The Cummins will keep up with the PW Offroad but you’ll need to add a rear locker, it’s heavier and once you add a winch, your approach angle is not as good as the PW. It’s such a tough decision lol. Also, maintenance on the Cummins is about $500 give or take, more than the PW because of DEF and multiple fuel filters that need replaced about two times a year.

[@rd4501]

@@RogueElement thanks for the information very appreciated 👍

[@nate7828]

Which gets better mpg?

[@RogueElement]

Cummins by quite a bit

[@mixflip]

I keep hearing people complain about all the emission equipment on the new diesels that actually reduce the reliability of the cummins. Is there any truth to this in your opinion?

[@RogueElement]

Nope! Not a single one of our friends have had issues either.

[@maddawgnoll]

Give them time. They have to be put through the miles before problem arise. Nothing is better that the 5.9 12V Cummins. Most reliable motor dodge has ever produced.

[@SPHINX144]

@@maddawgnoll and when that happens, it's time for a delete if you don't want to do it as soon as possible.

[@maddawgnoll]

@@SPHINX144 I keep telling my dad we need to do that to his truck. 94 Cummins with only 120k on the motor. He did just do the injectors and injector pump. Thing's a beast

[@PreparedOverlander]

I wish Ram would make a Power Wagon with the Cummins, minus the winch. I am not sure why that concept would be hard for the engineers at Ram.

[@RogueElement]

From what we’ve been told by Ram engineers is there’s no way to have the hidden winch with the turbo and trans intercooler up front. I’m sure they can figure it out but I know that the Cummins has a lot less room in the engine bay to play with than the Hemi.

[@mitchellpalacio5069]

I have a 2004 dodge ram 2500 2500 with the 5.9 and a 2008 dodge ram 3500 with a 6.7 and I'm not too sure what to use !

[@mitchellpalacio5069]

Do u have a recommendation?

[@RogueElement]

Can't go wrong with either!

[@mitchellpalacio5069]

@@RogueElement Ahahah, guess 2004 5.9 HO it is !!!

[@dugefresh7063]

What roof rack is on the Ram Crew Cab?

[@RogueElement]

Rhino Rack Backbone system

[@dugefresh7063]

Did you have to make any modifications as when I was on their site and typed in my vehicle info it kept pointing me to the Pioneer which is more of a flat tray rack, I am looking for a roof rack for my 2012 Crew Cab 2500@@RogueElement

[@RogueElement]

@@dugefresh7063 no, it’s just the backbone and a pioneer platform attached to it. 54x56 I believe

[@dugefresh7063]

Thank You! @@RogueElement

[@djw5415]

I feel they need to add a larger gas tank to the power wagon. Just to increase range

[@RogueElement]

They really should offer an aux tank. Titan tanks makes awesome ones for the Diesel but with it getting over 400 miles per tank, it's hard to justify adding more weight you don't need but that Hemi gets garbage mileage!

[@djw5415]

@@RogueElement ya I don’t mind bad MPG, I care about range and it sucks. Titan and other manufacturers don’t make an aux tank unfortunately for the PW

[@tawaitai]

@@RogueElement is there any mods to get better gas mileage?

[@jasongardner1910]

@@tawaitai buy a Cummins and delete all that shit

[@jmiller3v]

Does the PW have a Z Automotive Taser?

[@RogueElement]

No it does not

[@RogueElement]

I actually had to Google what it was haha. I can’t believe I ha Ent heard of those before. Might have to try it out. Especially since we are dropping a 6.4 Hemi into our 1979 Scout II!

[@jmiller3v]

@@RogueElement I’m looking for someone to give me pros/cons on it. I reprogrammed my Rubicon, and really want to tweak the PW such as lights, mirrors and most importantly the lockers n sway.

[@jmiller3v]

@@RogueElement International Scout! Always could spot them miles off... hood up, letting the engine cool off.

[@RogueElement]

@@jmiller3v hahaha! I’ve been lucky with the two I’ve had before we spun a rod in the 455 big block. That’s what inspired moving to modern tech

[@SeguroOffroad]

haha, all comes down to driver. Really for every vehicle it is driver. Knowing your limitations and weak spots. Hands down, if I wanted to tow, I would not go with a power wagon. It's a no brainer for me. I pick on Cummins guys cause they always pop up on my feeds talking mumble rap! Both are dope options and there are some killer diesel rams out there!

[@RogueElement]

It’s honestly a coin toss. I don’t tow enough to justify the maintenance costs of a diesel these days so I went with the PW and happy with that decision so far.

[@N0M4D_22]

Man I still can’t decide between a power wagon or a Cummins... I really like the mega cab but they don’t have a MC in a PW...

[@RogueElement]

The mega cab has a longer wheelbase too which is not as good as the crew cab Offroad

[@N0M4D_22]

@@RogueElement I see so mega cabs are not suitable for off-roading at all?

[@RogueElement]

I wouldn't say that at all but that longer wheelbase can be a burden compared to the 2500. It's not enough to fully discount it but something to look for when buying a rig you'd like to be as capable offroad as possible.

[@mitchellpalacio5069]

Is that a sonora hat brotha?!?!?

[@RogueElement]

Goorin Bros hat...if you're referring to the Chicken hat

[@SLICKW1993]

Once you go diesel it’s hard to go back to gas. Cummins 👍

[@RogueElement]

It really is! Hahaha

[@RogueElement]

Especially with these gas prices

[@SLICKW1993]

RAM should do like Ford and give you the diesel or gas option in the PW. I keep hearing the same excuse, the diesel is too heavy. Yeah but it has double the torque LOL

[@RogueElement]

@@SLICKW1993 it’s not because the diesel is too heavy. Other factors in it. Only between 7-900 pound difference at most

[@leonlew1386]

I so wish Toyota made a 3/4 ton with a Cummins. Nissan tried with their Titan I’ll likely get a 4th Gen Ram as well

[@RogueElement]

This is the way!

[@DaddyPhatSnack]

I wanna do this in my 2500 cummins

[@RogueElement]

Dooo iiiiit!

[@skyline040]

Hard to choose there amazing trucks love the show

[@RogueElement]

Super hard choice! They’ll both do the job and look good doing it!

[@HighSpinSwingSpeed]

Why a Dodge over a super duty?

[@RogueElement]

Not a fan of both Ford or the Super Duty. Just prefer the overall feel and drive of the Ram.

[@starmc26]

Because Fords suck.

[@nate7828]

Wouldn’t it be a dream if they just threw some lockers and sway bar disconnects in a off-road package for a cummins

[@RogueElement]

We wish!!!

[@user-lz7wb7tg4g]

This is technically problematic. almost 700 pounds of extra weight and too much torque for lockups in those axles. Need another engine. With less weight and torque. Or an axle from a tractor. Then it would be possible to get off-road capabilities with an expeditionary range with good towing capabilities. But in this case, marketers will hit a horse price tag, otherwise other versions simply will not buy.

[@RogueElement]

I mean, it’s been done before and works but front lockers in the Cummins is an issue with the torque for sure. But a rear locker in a Cummins works great

[@djlee3276]

I can settle which is better. I have a Power Wagon so the Power Wagon is clearly better. I’m glad I could settle the debate.

[@billwaterhouse5894]

Hey bud, excellent review. My two cents for what it's worth and if anyone gives a s&*^. I'm a diesel guy through and through, been driving them since the late 80's in my early 20's. Since covid killed my business and I sold all my equipment, heavy trailer etc. I had a choice to go with a gas job since I no longer had heavy ish towing requirements. With that said, I don't think I would have swapped if it wasn't for all the EPA mandated fkn garbage killing our diesels today, along with low sulfer fuel/low lubricity (yes I know I could have deleted it with some risk). So I made a choice to order a 2021 Powerwagon. So the takeaway here is this...from a 100% diesel guy... if you don't have towing requirements where you truly need a diesel, get the wagon. I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS TRUCK. Can't belive I'm saying it, but I think my all time favorite.

[@RogueElement]

Exactly why we ended up getting a 2021 PW too! Killer trucks! Thanks for watching dude!

[@Anthelionhelicopters]

Thanks for the reply Bill, that actually helps a lot. Am going between the 2022 PW and the 2500 Cummins. My only gripe is i wanted the Mega Cab which i couldn't get with the PW - What's your real world experience with MPG and Mx costs between the two motors if you don't mind me asking as paying 10k extra for the diesel, if i don't need to tow over 10k, it ,seems it would take a while to get those fuel savings realized if you did between 10-15k miles per year. Thanks, Alex

[@billwaterhouse5894]

@@Anthelionhelicopters personally, if I was towing over 7500lb. On a regular basis, meaning decent distances and frequently...I'd still go diesel. Not so much for savings but for the power. Also, modern diesels that are not deleted seem to do fine as long as they are worked...and that's the key to it...must be worked to keep all the systems clean and functioning properly. The PW of course is a very specific vehicle for a specific purpose in my humble opinion. My better half and I are planning cross country off road trips, towing an off road specific trailer, weighing a max of 3500lb. So perfect fit for us. Sounds like you need the larger cab, so back to gas vs. Diesel. In terms of mpg, I get 10-11 in town and 13-15 on the hwy (6.4). My latest diesel, 2017 power stroke, 13.5 in town, 16-17 hwy (empty), 9-11 towing depending on weight (I hear the 2020 and up Ford with 10 speed is much better). Can't help you with the cummins as as my last one of those was a 2006.

[@RogueElement]

@@Anthelionhelicopters gas mileage isn’t even a fair comparison between the two. The diesel destroys the PW for MPG’s in literally every category but it’s cost of maintenance is higher per year plus DEF costs

[@billwaterhouse5894]

PS diesel maint. Cost 75% more than gas truck. Gas truck using 87 octane, much lower cost than diesel fuel, and that nullifies and savings you would with the diesel in terms of increased miles per gallon.

[@chrisbryan6493]

I’ve wanted a PW for years.. ended up getting the Cummins because of possible towing needs in the future.. and i couldn’t resist a diesel.. plus i don’t wheel enough to justify a PW.. just install a front locker, front AEV bumper and a winch and bam you’ve got a diesel PW 😂.. it’s a toss up..

[@RogueElement]

Also need a disconnect front sway and softer suspension but it’s not hard to make a Cummins close to the PW. I mugs having a Cummins though

[@chrisbryan6493]

@@RogueElementtrue.. or get a carli or Thuren sway to give you some more articulation.. PW is the ultimate off road truck.. basically it’s a solid axle 1/2 ton on a 3/4 ton frame due to its lighter spring weight for off road.. it’s a Rubicon on steroids

[@RogueElement]

@@chrisbryan6493 that’s why we have two! Haha…we’ll we just traded the 2018 in this video for a Rubicon Gladiator

[@chrisbryan6493]

@@RogueElementwow you got rid of the PW 😢 that’s sad but a gladiator is bad ass as well.. gunna have to travel a little bit lighter

[@RogueElement]

@@chrisbryan6493 we still have our fifth gen PW though

[@juancortes5876]

Cummins 2500 any day

[@amolinari9]

Awesome video! My biggest dilemma in life lol: Ram 2500 PW vs Ram 2500 Cummins 4x4. So I settled for a brand new blacked Ram 1500 4x4 😎🤷🏻‍♂️

[@RogueElement]

Damn! That’s like being offered the Olsen Twins and settling with Bob Sagat! Haha! We used to have a 2012 Ram 1500 Sport and loved it! Any plans for yours?

[@amolinari9]

@@RogueElement yeah well I drive 1000-2k miles a month and I don’t tow anything and wanted a powerful and reliable motor with plenty of haul. Comfort, light luxury and exterior aesthetics was what I wanted all for a good price. A blacked out hemi (non etorque - don’t like that fake hybrid sh*t) 1500 4x4 with ram boxes and equipment group 2 for $50k and no money down and a payment I liked. My plan is to keep the stock black 20x9 wheels until it’s paid off and run 35x12.5R20 Kenda klever RTs on a 2” mopar lift for now. When it’s paid off I’m not sure if I wana go 2.5” icon stage 5 and keep 35s or go 4-6” BDS to fit 37s (with 17” wheels). The latter will look better but I’ll have to upgrade the cv axles and steering components which isn’t a big deal, but depending on how I wheel the truck idk if it’s necessary. I can go almost anywhere I want on 35s and maintain street manners with acceptable fuel economy and won’t have to regear as I have 3.92s. If I keep the truck as long as my 2006 then it’ll constantly experience upgrades for its life anyway 😎

[@SLICKW1993]

@@RogueElement 😂

[@mr_longhorn6000]

Come on back to the good sad! And snag you a Longhorn Cummins and we’ll be twins lol 😂

[@RogueElement]

It’ll happen eventually!

[@jeffreybalandra8891]

Look man, I’m always been a ram man, because it’s easier to work on and it’s very reliable to me that’s my opinion. I have an 2011 ram1500 4x2, that I bought in South Carolina when I was stationed there. I never had a problem, it’s been there to Texas several times, to fort Campbell to Texas and South Carolina back to fort Campbell. From Georgia fort Benning to Texas, back to Georgia. Then I retired from the military back to Texas from Georgia. From Texas to Orlando Disney, back to Texas, from Texas to fort Carson Colorado back to Texas. Then to Texas back to Orlando again back to Texas without an issue.

[@RogueElement]

We’ve never had issues with our Mopar rigs since 1995!

[@dakotahensen5759]

It's too bad that the can't just make a new pw with the cummings in it so one could literally have both trucks in the same truck.

[@RogueElement]

It’s long overdue! They continue to say they can’t fit everything in and it’s partially because of the intercooler but I’m sure they could manage but then the question that’s raises is how ungodly expensive would it be?

[@gfinnstrom]

no one has been able to respond to this question why are most of the trucks are rams and not the other brands, 8 out of ten are rams 1500 up

[@RogueElement]

The biggest reason is the availability of aftermarket parts. More Offroad/overland parts available for Ram than all other brands combined. Also, the Ram 2500 and up are standard straight axle which is desired more than IFS on others. Plus the Ram is a wheeling beast and has a better price point

[@gfinnstrom]

@@RogueElement thanks have a great week

[@RogueElement]

@@gfinnstrom you bet! Thank you so much for watching

[@edwardcote1331]

all this talk on the net about how a powerwagon can't tow.mine pulls my 30' travel trailer,or my 22 ft. boat,or my trailered side by side without any drama whatsoever.plus it's waaaaay more comfortable to drive than my old 2500 slt.in my humble opinion,i'd skip the cummins and sink the huge savings into a fully optioned level 3 powerwagon.

[@RogueElement]

We ended up buying the 2021 Power Wagon but after having both, the Cummins is WAY more comfortable on the road if I’m comparing stock suspensions. The PW has plenty pulling power but it’s no Cummins. We are buying a 29’ travel trailer in January too that I’ll pull after I put my Thuren stage 5 on but will probably add removable air bags to help with the payload and sagging

[@RogueElement]

@Bryan Goode right around 6k I think…dry

[@jasongardner1910]

Just buy a Tradesman used Cummins do a lift re-gear and do lockers 10 times better than a PW I have had both.

[@RogueElement]

It's definitely not 10 times better and my cummins had a locker and removable sway bar and still isn't better offroad than my new PW. I do miss the fuel mileage and torque but the PW is just better offroad, especially with the softer suspension.

[@lightspeedgallery]

Power wagon all day.. new diesel suck with the dif system

[@RogueElement]

DEF does suck!

[@lightspeedgallery]

@@RogueElement I watched a heavy diesel mechanic talk about all the problems they have. It can leave you stranded in the middle of nowhere for a dif sensor error 💀 . I just got a new 23 PW I’m pinching myself lol..

[@jesusm2159]

They gotta make the 2500 more off road capable and have 5000 payload capacity n towing 20000 pounds

[@RogueElement]

lol...ok

[@The92renegade]

Actually the power wagon only has a payload of around 1,000lbs and towing capacity of 7,000. About as much as a jeep. Way smaller springs made for articulating are the reason.

[@RogueElement]

What? No it doesn’t. Where in the he did you get those numbers? lol

[@SHITBOX316]

I know how fuel mileage works but How did you get gas mileage in a diesel truck? You didn't put gas in a Cummins Truck did you? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RogueElement]

🤔

[@garrettyzf]

pointless video

[@RogueElement]

Pointless comment