Ramanujan Integral

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Dr Peyam

Dr Peyam

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@blackpenredpen
@blackpenredpen 5 жыл бұрын
Whoa!!! (To be honest, I haven’t watched the entire video. I just woke up not long ago. But it would have been a whoa anyway)
@shivimish9962
@shivimish9962 5 жыл бұрын
Can you please make a video on the same integral in a simpler manner? I'm not able to get the higher level of maths here
@Sitanshu_Chaudhary
@Sitanshu_Chaudhary 5 жыл бұрын
@@shivimish9962 bro first to understand milenium transform
@rrr1304
@rrr1304 5 жыл бұрын
Fan
@anish3084
@anish3084 4 жыл бұрын
Understanding ramanujans mathematics is not your cup of tea blackpen
@MaksymCzech
@MaksymCzech 5 жыл бұрын
Bruh, this is some hardcore math. I've taken complex analysis class and I think we solved something similar by going from real numbers to complex plane. Can't be 100% sure though. Thanks for your video!
@googleuser3481
@googleuser3481 5 жыл бұрын
Proud to belong to S. Ramanujan's country. Love ur contents sir. BTW a fun fact, Ramanujan figured out most of his mathematical formulae & identities in his dreams(his "belief" was some Hindu Goddess provided him with all these stuffs). He used to sleep with a pen & paper beside him and developed a habit of 'sleep writing'. And, most of his discovery papers are now lost which had some of the best mathematical stuffs, whose proofs & derivations are still to be found.
@jake_runs_the_world
@jake_runs_the_world 5 жыл бұрын
Google User 🙄🙄
@sherlockjunior8612
@sherlockjunior8612 5 жыл бұрын
Jake believe it or not, it's true! Ramanujan actually did dream of these formulae and others called it "intuition"... Because Ramanujan wrote complex formulas etc. Without any proof. He just wrote them down and since he didn't "derive" them, people disliked him.
@Rishi-he7hs
@Rishi-he7hs 5 жыл бұрын
@@sherlockjunior8612 No!!! Sir I am also an Indian and please recognize his intuition.... Then why did not Devi appear in dreams of priests or why did not Jesus or Allah appear in any other people's dreams??
@Swybryd-Nation
@Swybryd-Nation 5 жыл бұрын
Great application Dr. Peyam Yes Ramanujans MASTER FORMULA. He used it quite often and prof. Moll et al and I wrote a paper about it. Berndt gives a formal proof using finite difference operator E.
@Jaeghead
@Jaeghead 5 жыл бұрын
At around 7:35, how do you know that this is the correct choice for phi(N)? If you had chosen a different third root for 1-i you would have gotten a different answer in the end, right?
@imgayasheck595
@imgayasheck595 5 жыл бұрын
"Srinivasa Ramanujan credits his mathematical findings to the Goddess of Namagiri. According to Ramanujan, she appeared to him in visions, proposing mathematical formulas that he would then have to verify." I believe that he had dreams of proofs, I have had the same where my brain thinks of beautiful mathematical equations when allowed to freely wander such as in a dream
@darkseid856
@darkseid856 5 жыл бұрын
Exactly . Sometimes when I do hardcore study , formulas and equations starts to appear in my head very randomly . The only thing is that I am still stupid at maths.
@emanuelmartinez3585
@emanuelmartinez3585 5 жыл бұрын
I really love when calculus and number theory meet! 🥰
@guyguy1811
@guyguy1811 5 жыл бұрын
This integal never gets old
@Handelsbilanzdefizit
@Handelsbilanzdefizit 5 жыл бұрын
When I was younger, ramanujan woke my interest in continued fractions :-)
@evangelosnikitopoulos9623
@evangelosnikitopoulos9623 5 жыл бұрын
The fact stated at the beginning of the video (the one on which this whole calculation is based) is totally false as stated because the sequence (φ(n))_n does not uniquely determine φ on the rest of the real line (or complex plane), no matter how nice φ is. What are the actual assumptions on f and/or φ? Or rather, what is the actual statement of this Ramanujan Theorem that is cited?
@theoleblanc9761
@theoleblanc9761 5 жыл бұрын
Totally what I think! I wrote a comment the video roughly like you and Peyam don't answer me...
@sergioh5515
@sergioh5515 5 жыл бұрын
I've been away from mathematics for a while due to other classes so I found this really refreshing and AMAZING!!!!!!!!! Thank you Dr Peyam for always presenting awesome results :)
@atrath
@atrath 5 жыл бұрын
I am a simple math guy. I see Dr Peyam, I hit like! :D
@andygregory2390
@andygregory2390 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. The Indian Clerk lives!!
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 5 жыл бұрын
Andy!!! Hope you’re doing well :)
@MooImABunny
@MooImABunny 5 жыл бұрын
Ramanujan's master theorem has some hidden assumptions that you did not take into account. To demonstrate, consider this: take a function phi(x) which generates f(x) by the definition given. Now let phi2(x) = phi(x) + sin(pi*x). Obviously, at integer x, the values are the same. Since f needs the integer only, the function generated from phi2 is identical to f(x) According to the formula, you can reconstruct phi by integrating f(x)x^(s-1). Since the f is the same, the integral is the same, which means the reconstructed phi"s are the same. That's not good, remember, they differ by sin(pi*x). Same goes for any difference that vanishes at integer values of s. We can even ignore the negative integers!! As you can see, that's an issue with reconstructions. When you try to reconstruct a function from limited information, you must know what are the conditions and restrictions on the function, or else your reconstructions can only be approximately true. (This is very similar to Nyquist stuff)
@theoleblanc9761
@theoleblanc9761 5 жыл бұрын
I don't understand the theorem at all...in the hypothesis of the theorem (incomplete to me: for which s..? conditions on f to ensure the integral converges..?), there is Φ (in the power series) but Φ is only define (known) for integers greater or equal than 0, so in the conclusion, if -s is not an integer greater or equal than 0, what is the good value for Φ(-s) ? Indeed, even if there is a good explicit formula for Φ(n) (eg n^2+1), nothing, really nothing states that Φ(z)=z^2+1 for all complex z. More, if there is no nice formula, maybe Φ is some "random/chaotic" function (eg Φ(n)=p_n, the nth prime number) then, what is Φ(-1/3) ?
@theoleblanc9761
@theoleblanc9761 5 жыл бұрын
@Arsene1412 yes but to evaluate the integral we need to understand the theorem to apply it. By the way there no "Φ converge for all s", Φ is a function not an integral or a series and to evaluate the integral we need to have compute Φ on inputs (-1/3) where Φ is not initially defined in the hypothesis, that is why it makes no sense (to me). Why on earth Φ(-1/3) should be the value given in the video, it seems arbitrary. Indeed, you are just given f, so Φ(0), Φ(1), Φ(2),... are naturally introduced by uniqueness of power series but Φ(-1/3) is completely off-topic and relates to nothing with f, our only start point. In fact for me it seems more "moral" to define Φ on every complex input by the by the formula (a way of extending Φ).
@robertmeadows4852
@robertmeadows4852 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been learning about contour integration and complex integrals but I can’t get my head around Analytic Continuation, Riemann Surface and Conformal Mappings. There aren’t many helpful videos, especially on Riemann Surfaces. Wondering if anyone can help?
@CHRISTIANZEGARRA2018
@CHRISTIANZEGARRA2018 5 жыл бұрын
There are great videos about those topics. I took complex analysis last semester
@HilbertXVI
@HilbertXVI 5 жыл бұрын
I'd recommend getting a good textbook on complex analysis instead, videos only get you so far
@siddharthpandya7763
@siddharthpandya7763 5 жыл бұрын
@@HilbertXVI videoed are distracting as well , very few info and takes too much time
@CHRISTIANZEGARRA2018
@CHRISTIANZEGARRA2018 5 жыл бұрын
@@HilbertXVI actually videos sometimes help the reader visualize the material in a different way. When I read the Laurent series I was confused and when I found a video it made it more clearly and definitely made me more conformable
@ricbisa6092
@ricbisa6092 4 жыл бұрын
What a nice result!!!! Keep doing awesome integrals
@awez_mehtab
@awez_mehtab 4 жыл бұрын
Got an ad in which jimin was singing "life goes on".. 💜 First time I saw a whole ad of 3 minutes
@robertmeadows4852
@robertmeadows4852 5 жыл бұрын
The second he said Mellin Transform I panicked but it seems you don’t need to know about it to understand the video. Really cool way of solving such a crazy integral.
@immasoxfanbaby
@immasoxfanbaby 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks my daughter is taking calculus and she needs help. I'm gonna share this with her to learn solutions of calculus
@googleuser3481
@googleuser3481 5 жыл бұрын
Ramanujan's Biopic, "THE MAN WHO KNEW INFINITY" gives us some glances of some of his similar mathematical discoveries.
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 5 жыл бұрын
Love that movie!!!
@Handelsbilanzdefizit
@Handelsbilanzdefizit 5 жыл бұрын
Yesterday I figured out, when you write: ln(Gamma(x)) = ln(x-1) + ln(x-2) + ln(x-3) + ... You can derive both sides, and you'll get a simple sum for the gamma derivative. But I still don't know, what's the inverse of the gammafunction :-(
@ArsentyKambalin
@ArsentyKambalin 5 жыл бұрын
Thnx for an advance content! Could you make much more advanced video? (about method of steepest descent or something else)
@shahinjahanlu2199
@shahinjahanlu2199 3 жыл бұрын
Hi . I only see your old videos in KZbin. Where is your new videos?
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 3 жыл бұрын
Check my channel and click on videos
@michelkhoury1470
@michelkhoury1470 5 жыл бұрын
Nice solution ! It can also be computed by using differential equations or complex analysis or Laplace transform...
@soumyadipsarkar5078
@soumyadipsarkar5078 5 жыл бұрын
And another thing,phi(N) is not that chunk,it is except that N! 8:54
@mathranger3586
@mathranger3586 5 жыл бұрын
Can you integrate (x^2+3)/x^6(x^2+1)
@عمرانآلعمران-و7خ
@عمرانآلعمران-و7خ 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Dr Peyam ,it is amazing integral .Could you verify the Mellin transform given in this video.
@ivanlazaro7444
@ivanlazaro7444 5 жыл бұрын
I think he used the "Ramanujan's Master Theorem". U can find the prove in some books
@silasrodrigues1446
@silasrodrigues1446 5 жыл бұрын
I just want to see a closed form for the solutions from this kind of problems. I know that they can't be expressed in terms of elementary functions... But would you leave me dream alone?
@holyshit922
@holyshit922 5 жыл бұрын
I think that Laplace transform will be faster
@federicopagano6590
@federicopagano6590 5 жыл бұрын
Notice when we arrive that integral= 1/3 Im(junk) we could introduce inside the factor e^(-sx) apply the laplace transform and then finally take the limit as s goes to zero we get exactlty the same result (i tried it wothout watching the final result and then checked it was the same!! I feel like ramanjuan-oid lol
@akkumar8768
@akkumar8768 5 жыл бұрын
Proud to be an INDIAN🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳🇮🇳😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@Anonymous-lw4nq
@Anonymous-lw4nq 4 жыл бұрын
Don't be so proud, no Scientists or mathematicians like to be recognized by their country first.
@akkumar8768
@akkumar8768 4 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-lw4nq make your concepts clear...u don't know the INDIANS ...Country comes first for every Indian. And your comment literally makes no sense at all.
@Anonymous-lw4nq
@Anonymous-lw4nq 4 жыл бұрын
@@akkumar8768 Don't be over nationalist, it's good to be so, but "too much" can become harmful for their own deeds, example? Germany (pre WW2), and I'm Indian btw, and I hate over patriotism, country is just a made up thing, imagination, but an individual is self made. You aren't the reason for Ramanujan's genius mind nor anyone else except his parents, he was born poor and that time no one helped him except one of his clerk friend in Madras and his mentors GH Hardy and Littlewood in Trinity, Oxford. So don't take fake pride.
@akkumar8768
@akkumar8768 4 жыл бұрын
@@Anonymous-lw4nq PROUD TO BE INDIAN. I WILL SAY 10000 OF TIMES... did i tell u that i taught him????And i know about him so dont say here. I WAS SAYING THAT HE WAS AN INDIAN AND I M TOOOOO THATS IT ..HE MADE OUR COUNTRY PROUD ..dont know y are U so much jealous of comment.... LAST LINE FOR U======DONT BE ANTI NATIONALIST!!!!!!.....
@Anonymous-lw4nq
@Anonymous-lw4nq 4 жыл бұрын
@@akkumar8768 Lol Anti Nationalist? I just said don't be over nationalist, taking pride is good, but take pride for the man first then the country, after all whole field of mathematics is proud of him, not just India. You don't need to show everywhere, it itself gets visible.
@sanjaycosmos9679
@sanjaycosmos9679 5 жыл бұрын
plz sir make more vedios on ramanujuan what he invented in mathematics... i am very fasonited on ramanujuan mathematics.. i am totaly inspired of his mathematics
@ahmadkalaoun3473
@ahmadkalaoun3473 5 жыл бұрын
That's amazing :-) And please in next videos change the position of tge camera because what's on the right side of the board isn't very clear... And thank you ;-)
@drpeyam
@drpeyam 5 жыл бұрын
It’s an old video, the angle has been fixed
@andygregory2390
@andygregory2390 5 жыл бұрын
It's fine in HD
@shanwil474
@shanwil474 5 жыл бұрын
I don’t think I’m here yet, I’ll be back in the future when I learn more
@sadface7457
@sadface7457 5 жыл бұрын
Sorry to be late. This problem looked similar enough to fourier transform. That you might be able solve it if you introduction j \omega then take the limit as omega approaches -j (so it becomes one), you can split the exponential to get the right power and use the euler form of the trig function. So I tried.
@researchersworld4718
@researchersworld4718 3 жыл бұрын
"Master Theorem" it's proof is based on "mathematical analysis" not as "Applied Proof ". It's used to prove differential equations whose solution are in the form of infinite series of algebraic terms.
@soumyadipsarkar5078
@soumyadipsarkar5078 5 жыл бұрын
you missed one thing,that angle is -pi/4 not -pi/2 7:06
@reetanshukumar1865
@reetanshukumar1865 5 жыл бұрын
I have better proof, just using gamma function on the complex plane and answer matches with yours but as youtube has no option for the photo as a comment, I can't upload here. but I have a different question to asked, how to integrate (x)e^ix dx. if I used Ramanujan theorem, the outcome is ridiculous
@Galileosays
@Galileosays 5 жыл бұрын
This is really an amazing technique. Thanks a lot. Might be useful in radial distribution functions to calculate potential energy of a radial field.
@eduardodanielfarfanduran6346
@eduardodanielfarfanduran6346 4 жыл бұрын
Alguien que pueda explicarme el porque de sinx=e^ix??...
@artificialresearching4437
@artificialresearching4437 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't it easier to get another expression of this integral using integration by parts and then deal with simple integrals of exp? But thanks for the video, I didn't even think of trick like that. Should learn more about that)
@SKARTHIKSELVAN
@SKARTHIKSELVAN 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your efforts in making these videos.
@maxsch.6555
@maxsch.6555 5 жыл бұрын
Great video as always! :)
@dgrandlapinblanc
@dgrandlapinblanc 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent ! Thank you very much.
@nchoosekmath
@nchoosekmath 5 жыл бұрын
1:58 "I am not gonna prove it" "I don't quite know the proof" lol
@shapirogensichwa
@shapirogensichwa 5 жыл бұрын
What are you expressing through this comment ?
@nchoosekmath
@nchoosekmath 5 жыл бұрын
@@shapirogensichwa Nothing offensive actually. Just that when a professor says "I am not gonna prove it", I always think that it is tedious and irrelevant, so the audience should prove it themselves as an exercise. Turn out that it's hard and Dr Peyam did not know how to prove that.
@Sitanshu_Chaudhary
@Sitanshu_Chaudhary 5 жыл бұрын
Why you make your video in the corner side of camera is someone is there to understand what you are doing however you are also fan of ramanujan
@98danielray
@98danielray 5 жыл бұрын
5:57 is that 2 references at the same time :v
@shankarrahi2067
@shankarrahi2067 4 жыл бұрын
Ramanujan sir ka unsolved problem ka solution mere pass hai and pi ka correct man bhi mere pass hai.
@harikishan5690
@harikishan5690 11 күн бұрын
nicee🎉
@motmot2694
@motmot2694 5 жыл бұрын
pi/2 became pi/4 magically 🤔?
@motmot2694
@motmot2694 5 жыл бұрын
I think you meant pi/4. Great video nevertheless
@98danielray
@98danielray 5 жыл бұрын
wher
@motmot2694
@motmot2694 5 жыл бұрын
Fractal 7:07
@98danielray
@98danielray 5 жыл бұрын
@@motmot2694 oh yes
@nik_semperlotti1062
@nik_semperlotti1062 4 жыл бұрын
I would say it's nice, but I need the demonstration to believe you.
@akshatahuja2523
@akshatahuja2523 5 жыл бұрын
Proud to be indian
@jackrubin6303
@jackrubin6303 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand how in the step 2 part of the video for Ramanujan Integral you went from sinx to e^ix without considering the e^-ix component and 1/(2i) component. Sinx = 1/(2i)(e^(ix) - e^(-ix)). Also when I used WolframAlpha it gave a different answer to you. Respectfully Jack Rubin
@shaochen5821
@shaochen5821 5 жыл бұрын
This is a hard integral... Or is it?? *VSauce music plays*
@erfanmohagheghian707
@erfanmohagheghian707 5 жыл бұрын
We didn't need Ramanujan at all. J is simply Laplace transform of t^(-2/3) for s=1-i. As simple!
@Sitanshu_Chaudhary
@Sitanshu_Chaudhary 5 жыл бұрын
Hee
@Gamma_Digamma
@Gamma_Digamma 5 жыл бұрын
Wowie
@Santoshkumar-qg4il
@Santoshkumar-qg4il 2 жыл бұрын
Are भाई हिंदी मे बोलते तो अच्छा होता
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