iPhone 13 Pro LiDAR vs. Survey Total Station Accuracy

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Rami Tamimi

Rami Tamimi

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@dronecapuk
@dronecapuk 3 жыл бұрын
For a hands free mapping those are huge results, really good data.
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, the results are fascinating for something like this!
@michaelkaliski7651
@michaelkaliski7651 3 жыл бұрын
For ball park measurements calculating building materials required, this is accurate enough. For scanning between known fixed points, it is also good enough to generate a profile. Given that the maximum range is only 5 metres, you are pushing against the accuracy limits anyway. Pretty impressive performance from the iPhone given it is not mounted on a tripod with a fixed remote reference point.
@0xmedia
@0xmedia 2 жыл бұрын
💯
@chrislutes2882
@chrislutes2882 2 жыл бұрын
We tried it and we're off by 8.6 inches over a paltry 61 feet. Worst part was that if we hadn't checked our work with a laser scanner, we wouldn't have known that we were that far off. If that's "in the ballpark", that's an awfully big ballpark.
@MrTuts4life
@MrTuts4life 2 жыл бұрын
@@chrislutes2882 as was said, it’s accuracy is 5m, not 61ft 😂 This is ideal for indoor mapping more than anything, scanning small rooms etc, not for large scale work, that’s not what it’s designed for.
@dbackscott
@dbackscott 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty impressive accuracy for a tiny sensor in consumer hardware. I’m a Geotech engineer. I can think of a few cases where that could be handy.
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
There is always a great application for every tool. Glad to see more engineers are finding value in this one!
@piwiee
@piwiee 3 жыл бұрын
I believe lidar is being considered by nasa for mars exploration
@OSkarSS20
@OSkarSS20 3 жыл бұрын
@@RamiTamimi I drive lorries and I sometimes double check the height of a lorry before going under bridge or trough narrow gate and so far have not been dissapointed using measuring tool built in iphone 12 pro max
@Dovachin
@Dovachin 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been making some crazy architectural diagrams with the LiDAR feature. Had it first on my iPad a year or 2 ago and blew some of my tutors minds back on my degree.
@stefanf6495
@stefanf6495 2 жыл бұрын
Me, too. Wish I had this thing 20 years ago when we were measuring a route for a new sewage pipe - 10km long, 2m wide, doing it with just a total station and no GPS. That LiDAR thing accuracy would have been way enough and time spent on measuring a fracture of what we took.
@tjf2939
@tjf2939 3 жыл бұрын
This is exactly what I searched! A comparison between a professional and the new iPhone LiDAR sensor.
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome, hope you liked it and learned from it~!
@christopherpardell4418
@christopherpardell4418 3 жыл бұрын
I once had to set a bunch of stakes on a property line for my girlfriend…. It was a pretty complicated property line, with odd arcs and angles and set on a steep hillside. I took a plat map of the property and used my iPhone for bearings and a laser ruler to measure starting from a boundary marker. I used a construction app to correct for elevation based upon measured angles to each stake as it went up the hill and calculating the base off the hypotenuse. And double checked with the GPS receiver on the phone for elevation changes. For arcs I set a stake at the center of radius and just measured off the stake to mark out the curves. The neighbor decided to hire a surveyor to check the property line and the surveyor found every one of my stakes to be within an inch of the true property line. He asked me how I did it and was astonished that I could figure it out with nothing but an iPhone and a laser ruler. iPhones are essentially tricorders.
@peanutbutterpadre1519
@peanutbutterpadre1519 3 жыл бұрын
please make a video
@christopherpardell4418
@christopherpardell4418 3 жыл бұрын
@@peanutbutterpadre1519 That was 7 years ago. And I’m not with her anymore…. But even 7 years ago, you could use an iPhone to ascertain bearings and read GPS elevations. I used an app called Theodolite. If you have one known point in the form of a boundary marker, you just measure distances and bearings as listed on the map. The only hard part is correcting for elevation as the plat map is a flat projection. But the property map had topographic lines and numerous bench marks noted for verifying elevation. By averaging the GPS elevation measure with the nearest benchmarked elevation, I could derive a hypotenuse length based upon the plat map distance and measure up the hill that distance ( when you’re doing it on your own, you need a bright surface to target the laser ruler on and you need a laser ruler that can handle the 200 plus feet you’ll need to measure. So you plant a target at a known point and walk the bearing until you get the distance you’re looking for. ) You can double check your elevation estimate by measuring the angle to the prior known target with the iPhone’s inclinometer and deriving how much higher than the target you are with the same Pythagorean calculation. Then you go back down and fetch your target and relocate it to the new known point. My target was literally a length of galvanized electrical conduit with a piece of stiff white board on it with an X at exactly my eye height above a hole with a bolt thru it drilled perpendicular thru the pipe about 18” up the conduit and I would drive the thing into the ground with a short length of larger water pipe slid over the conduit until the bolt I was banging against was at grade- using the iPhone to make sure it was plumb. This way I am measuring from my eye height thru the iPhone to a target that is my eye height above grade. I literally used an improvised plumb bob to transfer the position of the iPhone to the ground. ( holding the upper end of the string in my left hand just below the lens of the iPhone ) As you compile points, If something is significantly off, you run a do over. Over plotting a whole bunch of points, you can tell if you’re on track by the cumulative error. It took a lot of traipsing up and down the hill, resetting stakes and target to correct for cumulative error… but overall errors over and under true measure tended to average out. For example, I would stake maybe 6 points along what the map showed as a straight line… and then sight back along them and correct to the mean line of sight that was on the correct bearing. I knew I was on track when my plotting placed me within a few inches of a corner marker hidden under a bush that I didn’t even know was there. All in all, it gave me profound respect for the guys who had surveyed the first ‘accurate’ height of Everest, by starting at sea level in India and working their way across hundreds of miles using nothing but a theodolite and slide rule. I would not use this technique to survey unknown ground, But with the backup of a plat and topographical map with known points you can cross reference, you can plot a property line reasonably well.
@calebwallace9589
@calebwallace9589 3 жыл бұрын
This guy is great. A true nerd, but I think we can all relate.
@peanutbutterpadre1519
@peanutbutterpadre1519 3 жыл бұрын
@@calebwallace9589 right?! I just appreciate videos to see their method in action to see if I can find good ideas to apply to my projects.
@andrewgregor3692
@andrewgregor3692 3 жыл бұрын
@@christopherpardell4418 thanks for taking the time to detail and share this, well done mate!
@pbrglez
@pbrglez 3 жыл бұрын
Just wondering, would having the phone attached to a gimbal like the Osmo help with accuracy? I can imagine a certain % of error could be due to shaky hands.
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
Great video idea!!!
@picupiee161
@picupiee161 3 жыл бұрын
i was thinking the same thing while watching this video.
@vivalapapa6657
@vivalapapa6657 3 жыл бұрын
Buen punto
@maxwfk
@maxwfk 3 жыл бұрын
It might help a little bit but the pull rate of the sensors (gyro, compass, accelerometer) in the phone seem to be high enough to easily calculate out pretty much any shaking in processing. It’s really impressive for such a small device and I wouldn’t have thought that it would actually be that accurate before watching the video
@Cad1900
@Cad1900 2 жыл бұрын
Short answer is no.
@martintech2012
@martintech2012 3 жыл бұрын
I am impressed with the accuracy of the iPhone-generated point cloud, especially considering the phone was not positioned or moved in a controlled manner. To take it to the next level, the LIDAR app could recognize objects placed on several KNOWN precise control points (as done in the video), the known exact locations of those (2 or more) control points would then be loaded into the app, and the app would apply corrections to all the data based on knowing several exact actual positions within the data. Probably could be worded better. End result would be quite accurate surface data using the iPhone sensor in conjunction with the total station or an RTK system.
@twistedyogert
@twistedyogert 2 жыл бұрын
It might be possible to use GPS for that.
@erikjohnson5608
@erikjohnson5608 2 жыл бұрын
I’m genuinely impressed how many ways you tested this within a 30’ long area of sidewalk and gutter.
@kennyrobertson4673
@kennyrobertson4673 3 жыл бұрын
I greatly appreciate your videos, very informative and delivered in a way a layman can understand! I’ve been in the heavy equipment grading side of construction for over twenty years. The company I work for recently invested into gps technology, I’m the sole operator, I hope to train more, of the gps grader, rover, and I make our maps via Trimble business center. My previous experience with grading was laser with a grade rod. You have helped me tremendously with filling gaps of knowledge I was missing. It’s hard sometimes to ask a question when you don’t even know how ask it, much less even know your missing key knowledge lol. I look at brochures and promotional videos of the equipment we have to grow questions to look up. There’s not much info on KZbin for this line of work. I really hope your channel gets traction and gains in popularity, I know it’s a big time suck to make these informative videos but please keep up the great work!
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kenny. I love making these videos, and having this be my full time job would be a pleasure!
@skaramicke
@skaramicke 3 жыл бұрын
Surely you need three alignment points for a 3D dataset, or your elevations will be off for all but the two alignment points and anything directly between them.
@ewanmacgregor6186
@ewanmacgregor6186 2 жыл бұрын
.9 of a foot 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂. gotta love continuing US dedication to ft & inches
@PWN_Nation
@PWN_Nation 2 жыл бұрын
As a new real-estate agent in AZ, where so-called "mustang subdivisions" are scattered all over the place, having a strong understanding of surveying only helps our potential buyers to identify risks and possibilities BEFORE they sign a contract... Also, would love to see same comparison, but using the Matterport Pro2 camera system.
@mazzonijacopo
@mazzonijacopo 2 жыл бұрын
Use the metric system and convert to imperial if you want accuracy, not the other way around.
@samuelenblom
@samuelenblom 3 жыл бұрын
Great content, as other surveyors already pointed out you should transform with minimum 3 points, preferably with a helmert transformation / smallest square method. Thanks for taking the time making this comparison and thanks for using mm. Regards, a Swedish Surveyor
@Spaisi_coyc
@Spaisi_coyc 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am a surveyor from Russia. Can you tell us how a typical surveyor's day goes in Sweden?
@my_key
@my_key 2 жыл бұрын
I’m a real estate lawyer and actually had an appointed expert-surveyor in a case take a LiDAR scan with his iPad Pro, to scribble notes on and take rudimentary measurements from. And all the (many) parties asked about the app and how he did it. It was so funny.
@IzziedeD
@IzziedeD 3 жыл бұрын
Rami, this is the first video I’ve seen of yours and i found it to be fantastic. I’m not a surveyor, nor even in the construction industry. However, I do watch a lot of home building, construction, excavation, and concrete videos, so thats probably why your video came into my feed. This was so well explained I was able to follow and understand the whole process despite never having used either the survey tools nor an iPhone 13. Here are some thoughts I had. 1.) The Total Station obviously has a lot of advantages afforded to it, for example, it’s fixed position. The biggest advantage, however, I think would be the prism. 2.) While there will be movement induced inaccuracies from the LiDAR sensor and accelerometers in the iPhone, I think there may be resolution and backscatter inaccuracies in the point cloud. 3.) A set of inexpensive markers could be made with a bubble level and some object the LiDAR could accurately key off of (a small orange ping-pong ball, steel ball bearing, 6-sided die? obv. testing needed). 4.) With an effective marker in place, the survey points in the point cloud would jump out and we can subtract the marker’s height from the measured elevation. In theory, i think this would reduce the prism’s advantages, and some other’s suggestions like using a gimbal or a weighted steady-cam could help reduce motion induced error. Thanks for the great video! definitely sub’d. 👍🏻
@Andertheil
@Andertheil 3 жыл бұрын
Diddo.
@yuvaann5260
@yuvaann5260 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate your hard work behind the video
@Khnvlogs
@Khnvlogs 2 жыл бұрын
You are a genius, literally did not get any knowledge but watched the whole video.
@GAZZZA19790
@GAZZZA19790 3 жыл бұрын
good video. Remember that good survey practice is to have your backsight as the furthest point away from your detail survey.... if possible to avoid angle error. Also you had high vertical angle readings, so RL error would be higher. Would be good to see your next video on this.
@slednecksxbox
@slednecksxbox 2 жыл бұрын
I've been surveying since 2005 and have looked various times for a KZbin channel to show my friends what I do. They are usually so dry tho and it bores everyone lol. Not thus channel tho. Can't wait to share this with my friends and family! Great video and I will watch some more of yours now. Thank you sir,
@trizvfx
@trizvfx 2 жыл бұрын
Really nice comparison. This portability and accuracy for visual effects is amazing.
@StuartBreland
@StuartBreland 2 жыл бұрын
I helped my dad do Survey work for our family's construction company back in the late 90s. How I wish we had a little robotic adjustment like that between the rod and station.
@superqaxclub
@superqaxclub 2 жыл бұрын
I see a lot of these outside but don't know how they work, thanks for the video, and learning about iPhone LiDAR as well
@redcabinstudios7248
@redcabinstudios7248 2 жыл бұрын
Very good analysis. It was helpful, since I have been thinking to buy leica BLK 360, I see for generating rough existing plans with +/- 100mm accuracy this is great. Thanks man.
@stephen83546
@stephen83546 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration. You really did put a lot into this video and it shows and for someone like me that hasn't Really seen a lot of this, it was a very good video and it taught me a lot thank you
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, that means a lot!!!!
@brandonloibrandonloi6632
@brandonloibrandonloi6632 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video before I study in a college or in a university next year.
@slhurtt
@slhurtt 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect intro for a layman. Good analysis between accuracy and precision. Impressed that the IPhone software was able to stitch the cloud together. Fine for estimations; not suitable for a design survey. Additional control might aid in accuracy. Keep the land surveyor over the IPhone. But I'm biased.
@farn1991
@farn1991 3 жыл бұрын
Wonder how would the error fare on large area. IMU sensor [which phone use to detect its movement] has inherit errors which would accumulate under prolong use.
@arturofernandez6592
@arturofernandez6592 3 жыл бұрын
The most precise and technologically advanced device to measure distances that is set to measure in... feet.
@kcgunesq
@kcgunesq 3 жыл бұрын
it is decimalized, so no more or less accurate than smoots, rods, chains, hectares, or meters.
@christiangrigorov5749
@christiangrigorov5749 3 жыл бұрын
As a surveyor myself I really liked how you did the comparison. This is the exact method i would use too. Great work buddy! As for the idea of the video - to be honest I am really impressed with the accuracy of the phone. I expected a significant difference in both elevation and positioning!
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
Yea it is quite incredible what a cell phone sensor can do. With the proper adjustments, we can really make use of these sensors for certain surveying projects.
@MorsDengse
@MorsDengse 3 жыл бұрын
Impressive work : ) I will not nitpick, but the correct way to position the point cloud, is not to align two points. The correct way would be to align for lowest overall distance to reference points. Because of that, the result was actually a bit better than what you ended up with, and sorry if you mentioned this, but I missed it.
@ALFAOURI-92
@ALFAOURI-92 Жыл бұрын
Best video, i adore your content. Keep feeding us with ( technology, new equipments of Surveying and process of work for whole your 10 years experience ) much thanks bro
@neilf4889
@neilf4889 Ай бұрын
Excellent analysis. iPhone very good for quick “sketch” of building interiors for costing and planning
@LiDAR3D
@LiDAR3D 3 жыл бұрын
Another great one Rami! Thanks for sharing your hard work and for adding mm in there 😃🙏 We have some videos about how we use Apple lidar to map interiors for construction, interior design and more on our channel if anyone's interested in that.
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support. Yes everyone go check out LiDAR3D's channel they have some amazing LiDAR content!
@LiDAR3D
@LiDAR3D 3 жыл бұрын
@@RamiTamimi Thank you very much!
@blakel4595
@blakel4595 2 жыл бұрын
As a surveyor and civil engineer I'm pretty impressed with the results. I think a place it would shine is in determining how much material was dug out or filled in, I remember a water tower site perhaps 75ft diameter taking hundreds of shots trying to get the detailed shape of excavating to bedrock which varied wildly. Also I never had that sensor for the top of my prism! That's cheating 🤣
@Lakesideforge
@Lakesideforge 3 жыл бұрын
Great work! I would love to see the efficacy of this on a larger scale. As a landscape architect this could be extremely useful
@jab1982
@jab1982 2 жыл бұрын
I have no idea why KZbin recommended this channel and video but I really liked the content. In the end, I watched the whole video and I have nothing to do with this field. Congrats! :D
@charlessoh
@charlessoh 3 жыл бұрын
I'm a newb to this topic, so very appreciative of the time and effort put into this video. 💥💥💥
@SkyGizmmo
@SkyGizmmo 2 жыл бұрын
Very interested in world of drone survey. I did not know after months of also having an iPhone 13 pro max, still use my familiar Android. Thanx for the content...Good job!
@NoHarmDunn
@NoHarmDunn 2 жыл бұрын
Starting to use ArcGIS heavy for work and this is exactly the content I was looking for. Subbing for sure.
@alexandersepp9131
@alexandersepp9131 2 жыл бұрын
Perfect for a hyper detailed field note. Not for every situation but wow.
@andrewlhunt1
@andrewlhunt1 2 жыл бұрын
I have been phone shopping and came across your video. I do accident reconstruction with a total station. Pretty sure I will need to get the iPhone 13 Pro and give this a try. Great Video!
@sandwichtan
@sandwichtan 2 жыл бұрын
I won't build a bridge with it... but definitely impressive for a phone!! I think it has a lot of applications; excellent video. Thank you so much!
@psyfusion
@psyfusion 2 жыл бұрын
My first video and very impressive breakdown. LiDAR feature moved me from the TOF galaxy to iPhone
@Unknown_Ooh
@Unknown_Ooh 2 жыл бұрын
I don't own any iphones but as someone who always sees surveyors working it's cool to see some insight into what exactly they are doing. Great video.
@markshepherd9702
@markshepherd9702 2 жыл бұрын
Rami, this is an excellent video, I'm glad I've found your channel.
@barnmaddo
@barnmaddo 2 жыл бұрын
I think adding some more 3d features would help improve the height accuracy. Like by leaving some concrete blocks in a grid every 2m. The software likely struggles to tell if mostly flat ground is flat or slightly curving otherwise (when it's stitching together the various 5m sized frames from the video feed to model an area much larger than 5m).
@jasont721
@jasont721 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. I'm a surveyor from Australia and was intrigued by the LIDAR on these phones. I'd be curious to see the results if you did scale the point cloud to the surveyed points. The errors look a similar order of magnitude the further from the base point. The error on the elevation though is a bit strange. Thanks for the metric much appreciated. If you want the table to look neater you can use whole numbers for mm. Only use decimals for super high accuracy surveys.
@westcoastaerialimagery4690
@westcoastaerialimagery4690 3 жыл бұрын
Jason I’ve found hard stand to be within 50mm and up to 200mm on “grassed” areas, there’s a bit more testing to do and a better methodology to follow but it’s getting there. I’m a surveyor in WA if you want to ask some questions or look at the point cloud
@adriandrozdowski293
@adriandrozdowski293 3 жыл бұрын
The elevation error could be caused by the AutoCAD align command. When 2 points are used for the ALIGN, the command asks for the scale option. You can also align using 3 points. With 2 points, the point cloud can be slightly skewed from its original horizontal plane, and it is aligned to a line rather than to the plane. A better way would be to average X,Y,Z coordinates for the control points, then do the same for the total station points. This would establish a center of gravity for both datasets. Then you could place them on top of each other using this centre of gravity. Similarly you could calculate average angles for the pairs of points to obtain an average azimuth for both data sets and rotate the point cloud accordingly. Then you could mitigate some of the total station error by taking measurements of all points from various foresight points. This would create an overconstrained network of points, which would allow you to average the errors using Truncated Taylor Series (long story how this is done, but it works magic). This way you would see each control point as 3-dimensional probability ellipsoid with a range of errors, as well as the center of this ellipsoid. Then you would be able to mathematically prove the accuracy of your control point and the point cloud error. Sorry for the long-winded and academic explanation of this problem. It would make a great project for an advances surveying class. Great video, very informative and the methods shown were sufficiently accurate! Thanks!
@jean-claudegoy3463
@jean-claudegoy3463 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video, Jean-Claude, a french surveyor
@steelboss337
@steelboss337 2 жыл бұрын
For the uninitiated, 0.01’ is about 1/8”, so I gather that the iPhone has about a 1”-2” accuracy for this scan. Probably good enough for estimating take-offs for materials and construction boundaries, but we will probably have to wait for the iPhone 16 before we’re aligning machinery with it. 🤓
@smoke2275
@smoke2275 2 жыл бұрын
Who would have thought that even 15 years ago we would be comparing a $20000-$60000 precision instrument to a phone and have the results that close! I switched from android to a 13 pro max several months ago and do not regret it one bit! It’s amazing what such a small, relatively cheap device is capable of!
@AFTERSHOCK-bh7hh
@AFTERSHOCK-bh7hh 2 жыл бұрын
Right. It's more than a phone now, it's a tool. A flashlight, a speaker, a camera... etc etc
@Nostalgicinquisitor
@Nostalgicinquisitor 2 жыл бұрын
Why did you bring Android in this conversation? 😳💀
@geol3d142
@geol3d142 3 жыл бұрын
It's a very good video! Congrat's Rami! We listent a lot of think about the lidar of the iphone and your comparaison is exactly what and landsurveyor search! Thanks a lot and keep going, you do a very good job!
@aliamir949
@aliamir949 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool video. Thanks for your explanation. Im geodetic enginner from indonesia. Nice to meet you 🙂🤝
@NikcxzXOX
@NikcxzXOX 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely remember searching for this.
@westcoastaerialimagery4690
@westcoastaerialimagery4690 3 жыл бұрын
That table reflects my current test data comparison to both total station and photogrammetry pickup. More testing to go too but it’s a promising start
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the data is matching on your end as well. More testing needed indeed.
@AmazingPhilippines1
@AmazingPhilippines1 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting project and discussion. Watching from the Philippines.
@cfrankfly
@cfrankfly 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing and can site exclamation an example thank you!
@nothingelsematters8217
@nothingelsematters8217 2 жыл бұрын
I'm saving your channel .in my folder. Beautiful minds ☝
@ihabyamen2129
@ihabyamen2129 Жыл бұрын
تجربه حلوة يا رامي التميمي .. تحياتي
@LeonydaCruz
@LeonydaCruz 2 жыл бұрын
i have absolutely ZERO idea of whats going on here, but i LOVE IT
@ptb2007
@ptb2007 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, I found it very interesting
@dekada7044
@dekada7044 3 жыл бұрын
helpful tutorial videos for surveyors.. keep it up.
@AlexKall
@AlexKall 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the metric values!
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
No problem!
@acinad4605
@acinad4605 3 жыл бұрын
Sir, can you make more tutorials on surveying instruments and methods like leveling, traverse, etc please. :((( thank you
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
Here you go! Introduction to Land Surveying kzbin.info/aero/PLH4lR7bcTmFmwqaikJkpoQjrPp4tpA7j6
@mistersir8342
@mistersir8342 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Rami, you are an educator.
@Iraqvision
@Iraqvision 2 жыл бұрын
Great, thanks for sharing this comparison,
@williamhegman9779
@williamhegman9779 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done. Really helpful to see the lidar accuracy. Thanks.
@ryanmcgowan3061
@ryanmcgowan3061 3 жыл бұрын
It appears the local accuracy is better than you have concluded. The errors you are showing in Z are mostly from the registration process being a 2-point method. You will get much higher accuracies if you do a 3-point registration. i.e. the phone's "level" was off from the total station level, which is expected given it's coming from an accelerometer and not a 10" bubble. This put points that lie near the line extension of your two registration points in high accuracy (105, 106, 113, and 114), and points to the upper left in a negative Z error (101, 102), and the points to the lower right with a positive Z error (107-111). I took your points and did a 3-point registration without scaling, shifted the points for best fit by the average NEZ for all three control points, and then got the standard deviations: 0.10' E, 0.10' N, 0.04' Z, and max absolute errors of 0.19' E, 0.16' N, 0.06' Z. The remaining error was clearly a scaling error as the error directions all radiated from the center. The fact that the Z had less deviation is because the camera was facing down, perpendicular to the scan surface. If you want better scaling, I think some targets with vertical surfaces placed every 30' would give you that. Maybe try it with some lath stakes at the ends. Ping pong balls also make good photogrammetry targets, and would probably work with lidar as well. Another good test would be a route between two points and see what the real absolute error looks like. This test really only gets you local errors. That being said, it's looks like it would be a good tool for some applications.
@StreetComp
@StreetComp 2 жыл бұрын
Take a drink every time he says point 😜 but was an interesting experiment and good science - about as thorough as could be and still keep our attention
@janplexy
@janplexy 2 жыл бұрын
That's thorough !!
@tysondeal4369
@tysondeal4369 3 жыл бұрын
Cool video! Thanks for sharing! I can’t unsee the crooked globe on the light above the dining room table. :)
@RobinsonDuenas
@RobinsonDuenas 3 жыл бұрын
Man! Incredibly good!! Thanks for doing this video with such a great quality on edition and all the effort you put on this is awesome. Congratulations and thanks for sharing, I'm civil engineer from Colombia and videos like this help people around the whole world to understand better how this new technology is going into the game! Keep up the great job!
@WirableCrown1
@WirableCrown1 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling the LIDAR sensor is being used alongside the camera sensors with some crazy cool software to give such good results. Either way very impressive.
@brandonlively112
@brandonlively112 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Very detailed.
@leomessi1
@leomessi1 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for your efforts..
@Chriss2370
@Chriss2370 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, yes very well done indeed. Very emotional!.
@oldmaninthemirror
@oldmaninthemirror Жыл бұрын
Good stuff as a recently retired land surveyor I just enjoyed watching. I was impressed with the iPhone point cloud accuracy really. I am not a point cloud guru but I wonder is a few more register points could "tilt" the vertical and perhaps improve the elevation difference? I recognize that this is a small sample area so perhaps this doesn't matter.
@deedsquared7291
@deedsquared7291 Жыл бұрын
Surveyor here. I’d love to see if the accuracy improved if you used 3 points to align the scan. You could do this completely in the office without redoing the field work; just use a topo point for the 3rd alignment point (though technically the 3rd should also be a control point). This will likely introduce a little more horizontal error which you COULD adjust for, but I would at least hold the elevation. At least 3 points should always be used when aligning a 3D scan. Imagine a capital letter “ T “. The 2 control points would be at each end of the E/W line segment at the top of the T. By holding only those two points, the N/S line segment of the T can freely rotate, or twist so to speak, around the axis of the E/W segment if the S end of the N/S segment is not controlled. In fact, I’m curious as to how the scan came in even remotely close to being level and not rotated around the axis between your 2 CPs to some crazy extent such as the ground being nearly vertical for example?
@rubensleite5838
@rubensleite5838 3 жыл бұрын
Really good video, congratulations.
@stuartkorte1642
@stuartkorte1642 Жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly, human process and consistency is first error source of any survey. A second run with the total station will have different values. To your point, sensor and software technology has advanced tremendously in the last 20-25 yrs.
@conanrockwell4254
@conanrockwell4254 2 жыл бұрын
The iPhone and other cellular phone positioning systems are pseudo-GNSS systems that receive signals from cellular phone antennas, so they can only be used in urban areas with relatively large numbers of antennas installed. Since cellular phones cannot be used in areas far from urban areas, they cannot be used to build vacation homes or mountain huts, of course.
@suhyura
@suhyura 3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome review, thanks for sharing!
@calebwallace9589
@calebwallace9589 3 жыл бұрын
This is a wonderful video. Very thorough. Tom marks dear sir.
@ricardocruz-geosupport1809
@ricardocruz-geosupport1809 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats. That's a very good presentation you made here. Keep up the good work. Thank you
@topografiit
@topografiit 2 жыл бұрын
Congrats for this video
@MohammadMohammadiAref
@MohammadMohammadiAref 3 жыл бұрын
Great work and really impressive that you addressed many technical issues and gave many clues about how to make a good measurement. I understand that you compared iPhone against the ground thruth. However, what you are comparing here is not LiDAR error but LiDAR + mapping error.
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 3 жыл бұрын
yea the objective here is to see the accuracy of the points in relation to themselves. Other people may test the resolution accuracy to the object they are scanning.
@walterdale3308
@walterdale3308 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for keeping it simple Rami! All of the comments about feet, inches and metric show the ignorance of the commentors about surveying in the United States. Unit conversion is a daily process. Could have went GLO and showed chains and links to really get the "huh" Factor😊. Nice video
@joeglennaz
@joeglennaz 2 жыл бұрын
I have an iPhone 12 pro. I would love to just know how to use my LiDAR scanner when I can do with it for every day uses. I tried watching this and I understood what you were doing with the 3-D app on the iPhone but other than that I didn’t understand anything. Especially when you get into the software I had no idea what you were doing. Maybe you can make a separate video and every day uses of the LiDAR scanner. Thank you I found you by your drone videos I am very interested in serving the drones. And my part 1 07.
@abdelhakmansouri5925
@abdelhakmansouri5925 2 жыл бұрын
Thank tamimi your name is like the great geodisien tamimi 🙏
@oranatek
@oranatek 3 жыл бұрын
i used most of lidar scanner in ipad pro it pretty handy to do quick servay and design ..
@Oli.je_xx
@Oli.je_xx 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see the Lidar sensor with a gimbal and how much it will effect the accuracy
@davidwatkins622
@davidwatkins622 2 жыл бұрын
Accuracy vs precision... Battle of the Millennium... Team Accuracy for the win.
@cyberflow3391
@cyberflow3391 2 жыл бұрын
Thanx for this !
@TopografiaRodriguezSC
@TopografiaRodriguezSC 3 жыл бұрын
I have seen the whole process and it seems very appropriate, they are from Costa Rica, the precision obtained is very interesting
@VagifZeynalov
@VagifZeynalov 2 жыл бұрын
Great experiment! Thanks!
@RamiTamimi
@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@muhammadkhan8606
@muhammadkhan8606 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!!!
@cf453
@cf453 3 жыл бұрын
Solid analysis. I've surveyed many miles of city streets, and this is nowhere near ready, when 0.02' vert can make or break a design. Even if there was a good way to least-squares fit the point cloud to regular conventional check shots, it still wouldn't be enough or worth the additional effort. For reference, I typically survey BSW to BSW with a max of 30' linear interval, with an average of about 1 point per LF of street, and can do about 1000 LF a day. Not to mention working around parked cars and such, where there's no way to get a visually contiguous scan.
@jensmith8248
@jensmith8248 2 жыл бұрын
Such a good video !!!
@lamersolutions9840
@lamersolutions9840 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video, explained in a pretty good way so that everyone can understand!! Sure, there will be a level difference, as scanning with a constant height is not possible!
@omegagavin
@omegagavin 2 жыл бұрын
I was so focused on his extraneous hand movement to pay attention to what he was saying
@polystyrene_gangster
@polystyrene_gangster 3 жыл бұрын
Incredibly valuable information! thanks
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