Random Number Generator Car Reviews #3 - Carmudgeon Show with Jason Cammisa & Derek Tam-Scott Ep 109

Back by popular(-ish) demand, and because the Carmudgeons were at Monterey Car Week instead of podcasting live, we have another episode where Jason and Derek dig into their vast spreadsheets of automotive reviews.
The boys use Random Number Generator to call up cells in their spreadsheets of automotive nerdery, forcing Jason and Derek to take a trip down memory lane - and then read aloud their sometimes-embarrassing commentary on cars they've driven in the past.
Cars that they'd often forgotten about it.
In this episode, we hear about some of the following cars:
Alfa Romeo GTV6
Mercedes 300SL Roadster (W196)
2009 BMW E92 M3 Coupe DCT in a Hypermiling challenge
2023 BMW 760i xDrive
2001 Dodge Viper
2007 Mercedes CLK 550 Cabriolet
Lancia Fulvia HF
2009 Jetta TDI (Mk5)
2009 Honda CR-V Diesel Bosch Prototype
1991 BMW 318is convertible (E30)
1994 Porsche Speedster
2011 Audi A8
2015 Volkswagen Golf Mk7
Suzuki XL7
1961 Jaguar E-Type
2017 Aston Martin V12 Vantage S 7-speed Dogleg Manual
2024 Aston Martin Valour
1985 Ferrari Testarossa Monospecchio
BMW 850i (E31)
Bentley Continental W12
2008 Mercedes C300 Sport 6-speed
…and more!
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The Carmudgeon Show is a part of the Hagerty Podcast Network

[@philarends7555]

"I made a clap". DTS's command of the English language is beyond reproach.

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

About as impressive as his command on anything else, which is to say… completely nonexistent.

[@gustavoflorio5383]

Stanford material.

[@lvhdmya4807]

Aww, give him a break, he's 97 years old.

[@sanxi34]

@@lvhdmya4807 Us people born after WWII do not understand the proper way to express in the English language

[@shravanav993]

I thought there's not going to have any carmudgeoning this week. Thank you Jason " Discount Sandler" Cammisa and Derek Tam Hyphen Scott

[@Poorschedriver]

I'd like to take credit for recommending this during your Q&A and also say that there are plenty of us 'mudgeons that would surely watch 4 days straight of this. It really gives us perspective on what it takes to be a world class automotive journalists.

[@joekavalauskas8767]

Derek Clapton!

[@ahmadjavedaj]

Thank you, for gracing us merely mortals with your presence this week. I was actually sad thinking that I wouldn't hear you two putting down BMW this week!

[@johnmac609]

Derrick Clapton. Love it.

[@turbocurlybolt9546]

Random number generator car reviews are goated. Period. Could watch this every day

[@johnsandow2751]

I always enjoy these episodes where we get more of insight into your feelings on a wide variety of cars.

[@racermaniak]

Jason, there is an actual San Francisco in Mexico. The town's full name is San Francisco De Asís, in the state of Jalisco. I have family there, it's a tiny town and mostly old people there

[@ClinicalDecisionYikesYT]

So in English, St. Francis of Assisi.

[@Trendyflute]

Do they complain about a madman from California driving at insane speeds? 😅

[@n3v3rgunn45]

I would love a 4 hour RNG episode and watch every second! These episodes are great!

[@Petrospect]

Missed you guys. Can't wait for the C36 swap impressions on Derek's 124! Saw a Bornite Metallic 200E recently and it made me think about just how cool the color looked in the flesh. Also, random test drive impression from me: Up! GTi. Went to look at a red 3 door which I fell completely in love with....until I interacted with it and sat in it and drove it. Felt like nothing, had no room for anything, did not live up to the R53 I went to go look at before this. Total disillusionment. And that's coming from someone who *wants* a small hot hatch to replace my Mk5 Golf TSI. *Man* did it feel good to get back in ol' faithful and drive away from that bucket of disappointment. A joke for 15k.

[@alexgiannousis9688]

I remember that hypermiling story!! Still one of the most entertaining things I’ve read in a car magazine. At some point the third row seats from the Yukon were put into the trunks of the other two cars to “even things out” lol.

[@Trendyflute]

23:15 watch the coffee cup 👀

[@Kalepsis]

Unironically love the RNG episodes. Jason, it's funny you mentioned the Vantage review. That video is what convinced me to get my manual V8 Vantage. Which, unfortunately, got totaled last month. I have a sad. Time for a Vanquish!

[@stooplimitee5596]

M110 is a very underrated engine. Maybe do an episode about good engines in bad cars or the opposite. Most swappable motors?

[@joecutro7318]

Love, love, love these episodes! ❤❤❤

[@kylelanger8611]

You all joke but I and many others would happily watch a 4 hour episode :) Metrics be damned

[@pascutia]

Speaking of the 7 series, drove the previous generation last week. A 2016 750i x-drive. I loved the engine and transmission calibration, and it’s absolutely very fast. The interior was very nice as it was an individual spec. I didn’t like how weak the brakes felt. The part I didn’t like the most was the ride quality. Lots and lots of float in the suspension, but then it has the low profile run-flat tires and big wheels. The worst combination possible. You think it’s gonna be a really smooth ride and then you hit a minor pothole and you feel the bump in your spine. I miss the days of E39, E38, E34, E32, E65, and E60 where the suspension was tuned very well and the wheels weren’t oversized. Very comfortable and absorbed 99% of road imperfections but it didn’t make you nauseous when you went through a light corner or when you accelerated/decelerated.

[@Zangan]

If Jason published these car journal entries into a book, I would buy it in a heartbeat!

[@betteroffdeadd]

Did you hear about Ferdinand Piech?

[@urbanstrencan]

Love this episodes , make one on European cars that you don't get in US, brands like Škoda, Dacia, Seat, Cupra, Renault,.. Guys keep up with great work 😊😊😊

[@pascutia]

I was laughing at the 200s story. I drove one a few years ago and I couldn’t leave a stop light without squealing the tires if I stepped harder than 20% on the gas😂

[@air-headedaviator1805]

I can’t believe Jason has me curious about Chrysler 200’s now

[@dforgash]

Day check… it’s Thursday. Can’t wait for the car week recap episode!! They’re classics!

[@michaelking6596]

I'm not sure to be angry or happy.... It's 2am Friday morning here and you drop an episode.. to sleep or not to sleep before 7am work....that is the question

[@horatiul117]

My previous shitbox was an 320Ci E46 with the M54 engine and it was an absolute joy to drive because of that engine. The 4cyl petrol engines on the E46 were miserable, in Europe the entry level was a 1.9 SOHC with an output of 105 PS and the “best” one was a 2.0 with 140 PS plagued with valvetronic issues. The 2.0 diesel engines from BMW were always great in terms of power and numbers, better than their petrol 4 cyl ones, but from the E90 onwards they had horrible timing chain issues and they could not hold a candle to the 6cyl diesels anyway. Given the fact that the default choice of an engine in 00s - 10s Europe was a 2.0 diesel, the M54 was an absolute jewel amongst them: a regular car with cheap maintenance and great fuel economy that felt special in a sea of uninteresting motors. Sadly, rust does not forgive any E46.

[@jameswhitehead6758]

I drove the Diesel CRV by Bosch when I interned at Car and Driver. What a spectacular vehicle. Pulled hard to almost 5k. Manual. Tons of torque.

[@mx01pdx]

I was I little surprised that the BMW M10 chat didn't go off on a tangent. DTS simply saying that they can be spiced up was a charming exercise in understatement. Those tiny motors ultimate end point was the late 80s Megatron: a 1400hp turbo lunatic that was almost certainly the most powerful F1 engine of its era and possibly of all time.

[@waynesinterested7902]

nice shirt, Jason! TÜV sagt: Ja!

[@NO3V]

Took me 43 minutes to notice the "ohne Mängel" Shirt. 😅 Don't think I've even once had a TÜV inspection without any issues.. 😆 Liebe Grüße!

[@tonyclewes8]

At last - the week is redeemed!

[@steven44799]

Making a clap is better than having the clap.

[@lawrencebmarshall]

2001 is 2nd Gen Viper with updated interior (came in 99), cast pistons which means no 708 cam (2000), and abs (came in 2001). Gen 1 92-95 have more dodge dakota suspension than gen 2, have removable side windows, no exterior door handles, and a much more kit car like interior. These only 400hp, but are considered twitchier. Gen 1.5 is 96 rt/10 only. They have a gen 1 motor with a gen 2 ecu. They have a gen 2 suspension, but retained their side exhausts. The still used the gen 1 interior. Only year to get fang stripes. GTS Coupe came out in 96, but debuted as a full gen 2.

[@bobgnarley1]

It's another episode with my favourite car dudes, Justin & David!

[@wilpeachy9749]

Thanks for the tip about the w204 manual bolting up to the m104! Keeping in mind for the day reverse goes out.

[@Dtamscott]

I made an error, you want the w203 6-speed manual!

[@wilpeachy9749]

@@Dtamscott Good to know. Thanks Derek! Can't wait to hear how you like the 3.6 swap!

[@nickzhang7862]

Can we submit cars we want to hear reviews on? Like a QnA but for entries in your spreadsheet. Thank you!

[@6rimR3ap3r]

When I see Jason's shirt the first meme that comes to my mind is "TÜV sagt: nein" :-D

[@leotam3372]

Have either of you driven front engine Porsche sports cars? Would like to know your thoughts on the 928

[@NuMezmerize]

rocking the m539 shirt 👍

[@murdoch9106]

Just what I need! 😍

[@James-pl2oy]

You guys should do that 200 experiment in downtown SF lol

[@911_dan2]

High praise for the aston 🤩

[@Diecastclassicist]

When you come to Baltimore for lunch, I think Derek might appreciate my diecast car collection….

[@landononeal8493]

As a mk7 wagon owner I can agree the car is near enough the perfect small luxury car. 80000 miles later and I still can’t stop thinking I bought the right car! Thanks for making another person buy a golf Jason! lol

[@darksideemt]

So we bought a 2015 200s v6 that was ceramic blue (a special blue/gray color). If I'm honest I absolutely loved that car......mostly. It was fast! It was very comfortable and the seats held you great. Great sound system and it drove and handled great. The bad though was sadly unbearable bad, the 9sp transmission. In less than 20k miles it ended up with a new transmission and that didn't fix the issue. We actually had a great dealership and head of service actually told us nothing they could do would fix it because it was a very poorly designed transmission and to just lemon law it. I will honestly say that if it wasn't for the transmission I would totally have kept that car for a long time and I still remember how much I did love driving it when the transmission wasn't causing problems.

[@akshaysankarshana2405]

I'm desperately waiting for the digital copy of that Hypermiling Story they mentioned in this... Pls, if someone finds it, Discount Sandler or Paulo (who certainly was barking, wetting himself and making lots of other noises in the background as always), or anybody else, pls link it in here and also Paulo should pin that comment. I really wanna read it, and I believe many others want to as well.

[@californiacanyonsandbackro2109]

I suspect that the 964 RS America would be my sweet spot when it comes to 911s. It has the coil-spring suspension, and reasonable power, but it’s still small and relatively light and analog.

[@Iamthestig42069]

Jason, you have a shop and a lift and the skills. You can do long term projects! Buy a regular v8 vantage and tear the drivetrain out, build it how you want over a year or two. A salvage v-12 and 7 speed manual might take a while to find but they aren’t new cars so the parts are out there

[@dj_laundry_list]

I would be great to have some guests on. I know Cammisa isn't a people pleasa but maybe Tam-tam can hold their hand

[@BilalTQ990]

What is Jason’s Philz order?

[@jamesbaggaley1460]

Those 2.2 diesel CR-Vs are all over Europe still going strong. The only things that fail are the dual mass flywheels - bombproof engines, especially the early iCTDi engines with no DPF. This was the peak of Honda in Europe, hence no automatic option. They spend millions developing this engine themselves, planning to manufacture it at HUM in the U.K. before, at massive expense, scrapping the engine plant and moving it to Japan… Only the common rail and injectors were Bosch, but knowing Honda with intellectual property, it was probably done mostly be themselves at much higher expense.

[@sanxi34]

Derek, when you don't have the number that Paolo says, why don't you just "delete" the first number? It is highly unlikely that with a Random Number Generator that same termination will come up again haha PS; are you all "tracking" whether or not you have already talked about any of these cars? It would be funny to have you speak about one car multiple times in these episodes

[@alexbarry2497]

Love these episodes. But how is the camera consistently out of focus

[@pirkkaruuska5766]

F*ck... I was just about to go to sleep. Gotta see this and finish Sretens video also.

[@stevemartegani]

LATE! Late late late! Since when is Thursday Monday? :P jk

[@Fpvpilot928]

After extolling the virtue of driving at wide open throttle for achieving the best MPG, you think that a Prius would get worse MPG at full throttle than an M3 cruising following it. Being the Prius is a more economical car to begin with, wouldn't doing full throttle make it "more efficient"?

[@tyanaichigovera7308]

18 Mercedes 300 SLs. 😮😱

[@PeppigUndBillig]

Jason is "Ohne Mängel"? I doubt this... 🙂

[@emmanuellehuu8818]

Tell Palo to manually focus, cause the focus is on the console... again

[@crispychickenraider2139]

AWWW YEAH

[@Baimobile7]

Love you guys, but you’re a bit late if this was suppose to go out BEFORE car week 😅

[@saifabdalkader9512]

Damn you Paolo, you made me hate Italians! Next time make it 2 hrs episode or i will put pineapple on pizza!! 😡

[@JAKMAN32]

Algorithm engagement comment

[@momchilmarinov7815]

There are no 318is convertible produced by BMW and compare to m20b20/23, m42b18 (in the e30 and in the early e36) is much better engine... the b20 and b23 is the embodiment of lots of sounds and no power..

[@kurtofer7988]

Can you please stop teasing us about the bikes, and do a review of the bicycles? Then will finally be getting somewhere. Thank you.

[@LeoVillacorte]

What was this episode about? It seemed rather pointless

[@BEGGARWOOD1]

Yawn . Unsubscribe