Should You Spend Twice as Much? Fanatec V3 vs CSL Loadcell

[@randomcallsign]

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[@filipruml]

Sure, why not.

[@DouglasThompson]

Lol, we don't agree about the damper on the brake. I do my best to replicate the car I dirt race, so the damper on the brake pedal helps alot for brake feel with the V3's. I still like the V3's a lot but they will be given to my father very soon! Aside from my disagreement, nice video!

[@akpanjennings]

Did you stare at your phone with 1 eye and snap when you finished writing this comment? Lolz

[@DouglasThompson]

@@akpanjennings lol ya there are some grammatical issues. Let me fix it.

[@akpanjennings]

@@DouglasThompson that was a reference to how you end your videos. It’s hilarious lol

[@DouglasThompson]

@@akpanjennings oh damn...I'm an idiot. I re-read my post and I was like...damn that's hard to read without being in my head probably. Thanks man!

[@Christian_Bagger]

If you're not on loadcell at all, just getting it will make a massive impact and probably the single equipment that will give you the most in terms of pace. If you don't have a budget to use on expendables, but it does allow you to save some for some equipment down the line, I think Thrustmaster t-lcm are some of the cheapest and you do get penny for your buck on 'em. Ofc. if you do have the budget for it, you can be more nitpicky about it, but point being; get loadcell if you're into simracing, it's worth it.

[@r1ckyy-]

I've ordered the CSL LC Pedals so I can use them with my G29 and I can't wait for it! I didn't have enough money for a wheelbase, which isn't in stock anyways, but I've also bought the F1 Esports V2 steering wheel. I can't wait to see that wheelbase in stock so I can experience the full fanatec sim racer experience.

[@rakimaje8433]

​@@r1ckyy- was it worth it?

[@Skat3Juan]

@@r1ckyy- do the CSL LC pedals are compatible with G29 on Playstation ?

[@ianconklinmusic]

@@r1ckyy- I know this was two years ago, but I found when I got my LC pedals, that the lc brake was like a wall, especially for a floor setup. I plan to get a spring that will give me more travel and will be better for a floor setup. the spring replaces the black rubber pieces in the existing brake so it's easy to replace.

[@ark14700]

Word of warning: If you play with a wheel stand + office chair and get the CSL LC pedals, most likely you'll want to mod it to be less stiff

[@Archbuild-rt]

LCs with an office chair is absolute madlad anyway xD

[@alexalexandru6192]

Just put two shoes 👟 in wheels chair and the chair won't move anymore 🤣🤣

[@MXNLYKE8]

Or you could just take the wheels off

[@AKK5I]

Office chair LC chads rise up

[@chaddicusthegreat]

@@AKK5I LETS GOOO

[@kowalski3892]

Had these csl pedals for couple of days now. After little customizations I'm very happy with the purchase. Throttle was too light, so I use harder brake as accelerator not as clutch as suggested, with clutch I use that polyurethane stopper thing to add some resistance to it. Also replaced one of the rubber elastomer with custom die spring and everything is perfect now ;) Good value for the money. Obviously... if You've got money can go v3's or just go straight to Heusinkveld and be done with the pedals for the rest of your life :D

[@randomcallsign]

Kowalski Nice analysis

[@tonynittoli4792]

Heusinkveld is definitely the direction I want to go. Being new to this hobby and trying not to piss off my wife because I’m all in when I new hobby crosses my path. I had a Logitech wheel about 8 years ago but instantly returned and gave up on the hobby. Still played all gt games but with controller. Keeping my ear to the ground over the years I’ve known of fanatec but never pulled the trigger. Seeing the gt dd pro I knew instantly this was gonna be mine. Ordered a chassis from trak racer and the fanatec set up. I don’t have the load cell or the 8nm for that matter. Yet, this set up is beyond what i could’ve imagined. I’m having a blast with ACC, gt7 and dirt 2.0. The breaks though, need to upgrade and not sure which direction to go yet. Still don’t have a ps5 because I refuse to pay 3 hundred more than what it should cost. Looking at my pc day by day but I require a monitor stand if I go that route. Gotta give fanatec credit for an entry level set up for a direct drive. My wife thinks the hobby won’t last long. Right now though, I can’t see doing anything else.

[@benbunch4159]

I am using the softest red in mine and a piece of the foam I cut and it feels great. I do find I miss the vibration when I accidentially have it off somehow. It’s this great bit of extra info.

[@lukefisher8417]

I was curious out that feed back… I feel like they would be a nice addition, but not many people talk about them, so I wasn’t sure how they are appreciate your insight.

[@lewisgordon1490]

@7:10 Karl Gosling did a vid on how to mod the V3’s vibrators on the throttle & brake so it’s much easier to tell if U R spinning the wheels or locking the brakes, especially w/ shoes on.

[@RaphpowerSGSUModding]

I still use my CSR Elite today with their loadcell, they look like the V3 but full aluminium and they rock! Got them for 20 bucks

[@RaphpowerSGSUModding]

Nvm the loadcell broke lmao

[@kloijhi]

in 8:29 how can you push so far LC pedal? Mine is so stiff that travels some 8mm only

[@randomcallsign]

I brake with my thighs, not with my foot. The foot only gives the minute control

[@kloijhi]

@@randomcallsign what things?

[@randomcallsign]

Thighs, not things. From the legs

[@mrmidnight32]

What about the people who already have the CSL DD 2 pedals? Is it worth investing in the CSL brake pedal for $100… or selling the 2 pedal set and getting the V3 for $400-$500

[@CMDR_Rrah]

I've been using v3's with the performance kit and 2 dampers. The pedals that came with my gt dd pro have never even been unboxed. I drive road cars not formula cars so i prefer a brake pedal that doesnt feel like im stepping on a brick. I use 2 red from the performance kit and the brake damper set around 2.5-3. I also run them with the least pre-load possible so i get a good amount of brake pedal travel. Personally i do feel the difference the damper makes on the brake pedal with these settings, it gives a nice realistic hydraulic feel.

[@erikgonzalez2486]

I used to think that but now I prefer really hard to get that f1 and lmp feel

[@kaankuruuzumcu3867]

Do you think I should get the performance kit to get the softest feeling and longest travel out of the brake?

[@randomcallsign]

@kaankuruuzumcu3867 performance kit is recommended

[@iamzuesthisisthetruth8864]

Hey ACC on PS5 is vibrating the Throttle pedal now!! Amazing feels like engine in the floorboard!!!!!! What a time to be alive!!!!

[@AndrewTSq]

I went from a Logitech FFGT wheel to the CSL DD with the CSL Pedals.. and first impression was that the brake pedal is super stiff.

[@blueferrari397]

The problem you will have with any Fanatec product is its reliability. My CSL Elite pedals have failed twice now. I have the DD1 Podium wheel base and it has already failed and been replaced. Not only that, Fanatec don't supply many parts, so kind of want you to return it for repair. In doing so they charge around $60 AUD an hour, plus parts to repair. My personal opinion from experience with many Fanatec products now is to look at other brands first. There are so many new options available, which are of better quality. In terms of my recommendations for pedals, if you can afford it, go for the Heusinkveld Sprint pedals. They're awesome.

[@philip_21]

Do the Heusinkveld Sprints work with PS5 ?

[@darg682]

Bought the csl LC to go with my csl DD, but it's way too stiff and the exact opposite of what I'm used to (T3PA). I pretty much get like no travel on brake, so I bought the 3DRap elastomers which are supposed to increase the travel a good amount, but it's still way too stiff and not how I like. So, I'm going to sell it and buy the clutch kit.

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

maybe try tlcm if you like t3pa but want a loadcell?

[@darg682]

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j the csl pedals I have now are fine except the load cell. It's really the only issue. I bought the load cell because I thought I'd be more "realistic," but not for my case. I only drift so the lc is a hindrance if anything.

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

@@darg682 try the brake without loadcell (with the normal sponge thing). if that's fine enough you can sell the loadcell, if not for higher then for the same price as you bought it (at least that was the case just a month ago). but doesn't the loadcell have way to decrease stiffness? anyways the "realism" part of it is dependent on what type (and specific) car that you compare to. Not how most road cars are no, but closer to some race cars.

[@darg682]

@@user-wq9mw2xz3j that's just the case. I tried the brake with the included sponge insert and it felt good, just enough resistance and not like the T3PA with basically no resistance. I would've been fine if the 3drap mod worked how I thought it would, but it is still way too stiff for more liking. Definitely gonna sell the lc because I really dislike how stiff it is.

[@martinwobbly9230]

I felt the same when I got my V3s - try to stick with them for a couple of months and you might get used to them and actual love the feel - I did!

[@giogamer4825]

I did not doubt and decide to go right away with the V3 together with my DD Pro. Happy with my choice. I am only thinking of detaching the Clutch pedal, as I dont use that with F1 and ACC

[@notorioz810]

No drifting bro?

[@giogamer4825]

@@notorioz810 Nop

[@notorioz810]

@@giogamer4825 why?

[@giogamer4825]

@@notorioz810 drifting I will use a Ps5 controller as i only play F1 game, ACC and GT7 and for all of that i do not need a round wheel. The V2 5 wheel works 👍

[@NikoKyunKyun]

no classic f1 car?

[@aarongreen121]

I'm going to go out on a limb here, loadcells (to me) make no difference laptime wise. I know folks talk about consistency, but to me, once I've got the distance of how far to press on my brake pedal hardwired into my head then I don't tend to get it wrong. I used to race in a league and people were obsessed with LC pedals and I bought into the hype, and bought a set of fanatec LC's and weirdly nothing changed - no faster, no slower! It did give me a sore big toe from heel and toe'ing due to how much pressure you have to put down with LC's. But I know I'm probably in the minority - it just made no difference to me!

[@flyingphoenix113]

It's not just the load cell, but the springs and elastomers used. The idea is to transition a braking pedal from a distance-based application (usually measured by a potentiometer) to a force-based application (as measured by a force measurement sensor). The Thurstmaster "load cell" pedals are also garbage without the right aftermarket elastomer.

[@aarongreen121]

@@flyingphoenix113 yeah I understand the concept, I just didn't get any benefit out of it laptime wise, which is why we're all spending the big bucks.

[@saintsalieri]

Also, foam blocks indirectly measure pressure anyway. It takes x amount of pressure to depress the pedal the same distance consistently. You don't need to directly measure pressure for your brain to have a memory of pressure application. The other issue is that in real cars (race or otherwise) there is a significant amount of movement in a brake pedal, but sim racers seem obsessed with incredibly stiff pedals. With a stiff rig you can apply quite a bit of force, but why is this supposed to be immersive?

[@hnielsen123]

@@saintsalieri because what you're saying isn't true haha. Lots of racecars have

[@saintsalieri]

@@hnielsen123 except it is true. It's very east to find footage of brake pedals with travel, from F1 to WRC to any other series.

[@JTheraos]

If you think a 2 stage clutch isn't realistic, you've only used horrible burnt out clutches. There is a distinct second stage in a new clutch. It's a light loose pedal for a small amount of movement, and then you hit a wall of resistance and more pressure needed.

[@woolf9035]

The only thing that sucks about the v3s is you can’t use them with only 2 pedals out the box

[@atrain132]

V3 pedals 100% over the CSL. Overall they are really good pedals for any application. Definitely the best pedals for a console. I would suggest getting the damper kits, and brake performance kit. Personally, I like the damper kit on the gas pedal. It's a nice strong smooth feel, and gives me more control over throttle. Especially exiting corners. 7:15 for console use, they get pretty strong on Assetto Corsa Competizione PS5 version.

[@moes2168]

I'm not sure where the confusion would come from as they are products at completely different price points. We're talking $200 CSL LC set or a $500 V3 with it's "required" upgrades. IF I'm spending $500+ dollars on pedals alone, V3s wouldn't be my first choice anyways. I was NEVER confused about my decision to purchase a CSL DD PRO over the DD1, I simply couldn't spend 2-3x the price. Nor was I confused when I purchased our Honda over the Porsche.

[@TonyLamb]

The Load cell on the v3 has issues on reading zero, this is getting worse and worse on my set. It can be tuned out on the software but it's just annoying. They also squeak I hit it a few times with silicone spray and it stopped. Also just annoying, I wish they attached the shaft with a bearing instead of a bush, mine have started to wobble from wear after a year.

[@Mr_Battlefield]

11:32 What's going on with the accelerator pedal with the CSL Petals? You didn't explain in the video.

[@randomcallsign]

Stops working

[@kymosabetsl3684]

The throttle on my CSL Pedals was DoA. Still in the process of an RMA. Fanatec customer service is not up to par at the moment. It never worked. The load cell works fine. I ended up ordering replacement CSL Pedals through a 3rd party website. They arrived, and no problems so far. Might be a QC issue.

[@pedrosilvaproductions]

I'm divided since the CSL Loadcell with taxes is 242 for me and I have a deal with a guy to get the clubsport V3s (Still with warranty) and brake kit for 250 used. For what I understand the V3s are a better choice, but the price difference is not justified. However, in my case I think i'll go for the V3s

[@randomcallsign]

go v3 if they are good condition

[@michaelmak866]

Very informative review as usual, honest and straight to the point, exactly what I need!

[@Greatbatch87]

No idea how you get the brake on the csl to move that much with loadcell. Mine moves like 3-4cm if that

[@Darklord_tK]

Same it seems like his traveled quite easily i have my break force set to 10 on the wheel and have to push pretty hard for the wheels to lock on the games

[@martinsimracing1255]

Same

[@martinsimracing1255]

Since writing this mine has broken in more and feels much better . I get decent travel with the load cell now.

[@Bulldawg7]

Is it possible to move the brake to the far left for comfort. I don’t use clutch in sim racing

[@randomcallsign]

with the csl, yes

[@mrtopramen]

I got the csl with a plan on getting the loadcell (and the fanatec shifter) on Black Friday.

[@johnbaker705]

I bought the v3 a few months ago- work very well, very well made and built solid. dropped seconds on road course from g920 just by being able to brake and not lose control- I highly recommend the V3 pedals !!!

[@taylorchaotix6748]

Exactly dude, i also upgraded from T500RS to dd pro and v3 Pedals and the Brakes were really a game changer.

[@tonynittoli4792]

You two just sold me. Fanatec needs to hire you in their marketing department.

[@MukendiMedia]

Hi:) Great video! Im thinking of changing pedals and wheel, maybe even base… What I have: Base: CSL Elite (2021) Wheel: F1 Esport (2021) Pedals: CRS Elite w. loadcell (2010) What would you recomend: Pedals, CSL Elite or higher? Wheel, I would like an all around Clubsport wheel, for GT and Road cars? Base, Im not sure if Its too much to go CSL DD, or just stay on the CSL Elite? I play PS5 (GT7, F1 2022 and Assetto Corsa), sometimes also PC (Assetto Corsa +Comp., Raceroom, Project Cars 2…) And I do not have an unlimited budget :) Have a great day, and thanks again!

[@abeidiot]

if you can manage to put a squash ball somewhere on brakes it turns uniform resistance into load cell like

[@gavancorrigan8813]

Why ignore the inverted pedals? They are the set that I’m aiming for. I imagine that they feel more immersive. Plus they always come with the brake damper so it brings the cost closer to the v2 as I’d probably buy the camper for the throttle. Every review of the inverted that I’ve seen says they’re great?

[@DouglasThompson]

Yo

[@gavancorrigan8813]

@@DouglasThompson yo yo

[@DouglasThompson]

@@gavancorrigan8813 Yo ×3

[@single_cam9199]

Please do a video on the standard clubsport v3’s inverted on the trakracer inverted mount

[@SpeedyManCharles]

I went form the Thrustmaster TLCM on the TGT to the the DD Pro with the load cell kit for the CSL pedals that come with that bundle. The stock setup is WAY stiffer than the TLCM pedals I was using before. It's where I want it to be out of the box. Never got enough brake pedal stiffness out of the TLCM pedals that I wanted.

[@tomchamberlain4329]

I have big feet and heavy, strong legs so I find I probably need the stronger springs with more resistance in almost all applications, to prevent the weight and strength of my legs accidentally nudging the pedals. It's the same with drumming, I need a pedal setup with very stiff spring. So I think I'm gonna go with the CSL over the TLCM. However I'm still not sure if they are fully compatible with a t300rs wheel base....do you know?

[@kaankuruuzumcu3867]

I want a brake feel closer to the tlcm do you think I can get that from the V3?

[@R4ZORLIGHT]

Issue with Fanatec, the Wheelbases aren't available at all for months.

[@jessejames1999]

They are now

[@MrKrampyHands]

The G3’s look amazing

[@casefc3s]

I just got the GT DD Pro kit, accessories, and inverted V3 pedals after having been on an old T500RS w/ inverted pedals for years. Comparatively, the inverted V3's form factor, positioning, throw/swing, pedal feel, and the dumb-ass floor-mounted gas pedal (WHY?!) were all horrible. Considering the cost (inverted V3 pedals alone cost as much as the entire T500RS kit), there are way better options out there. Any option. Unfortunately not an option to continue using the T500RS on PS5 tho, and that's where a lot of friends play these days. Even the DD wheel feel wasn't an improvement, just has the advantage of not binding the way my old wheel did. All in all, it's up there with the worst $3k I've spent.

[@SonGoku-ev3nb]

Is it normal that The load cell is so hard ? Movement feels like only 1 cm ? 😅

[@randomcallsign]

yes, as they use elastomers

[@BABOp593]

People might think I’m crazy but I use the normal csl brake pedal (with the sponge) as my throttle and throttle as the clutch. Load cell for brake obviously lol

[@iamzuesthisisthetruth8864]

Have to Mention the vibration.. I genuinely couldn’t live without it now that I’m used to it. Dialing in the Locking points is So much easier. Not Mandatory of course. Truly feel many KZbin People downplay the Vibration A-LOT! When I feel for a new player it would be Invaluable at learning Breaking behavior.

[@davidcupra4913]

Would u buy the v3s now in 2023?

[@moncimoov]

i am, 200$ black friday❤

[@jimkika]

I have the CSL Load cell. I really love it, can anyone here advise me if upgrading to V3 is something that worth? Which benefits do I get?

[@allffrommars6019]

Why is your cell kit so soft? I cant compress my brake... maybe 5mm 🤪

[@randomcallsign]

Brake from the thighs not form the ankle

[@allffrommars6019]

@@randomcallsign works better 🙂

[@watt6281]

I agree with this. Even when applying full force from my hip etc, the pedal does not have this range of motion on my rig. It genuinely moves ~5mm then it does not move any further no matter what. I ordered a softer rubber from etsy and it improved the experience a ton--there just was NOT enough range of motion.

[@jessejames1999]

Ok I was a logitech g29 user and wanted fanatec but out of stock , so upgraded only thing I could was brake load cell type upgrade , it made brake extremely hard to brake but got used to it . Ffwd I just bought dd pro and find the lack of force on csl brake really hard now to trail brake , ordered the load cell it turns up tomorrow. Hoping it feels like it did when I upgraded the old favourite g29

[@S7natra]

I needed this video to make my decision, thanks mate. Little side note, I have the same mouse, same monitor and same ikea coasters xD

[@Pawrcawddeo]

The V3 Inverted is not recommended only for a price matter?

[@brettcananzi4375]

I've used both pedal sets. Tbh you can't go wrong with the CSL's and the 3dRap full progressive brake mod, feels great.

[@duximus01]

Hi, is a full progressive mode make LC a softer than standard ? Thanks

[@martinsimracing1255]

I am wondering the same thing the csl load cell has very little travel and makes trail braking difficult to me. I am willing to buy V3’s if it will make trail braking easier

[@duximus01]

@@martinsimracing1255 I drive only F1 and for me is well. Loadcell is all about brake force not by travel, i use 3drap mode and give a more travel and full progressive mod is softer than standard

[@RALISTAS123]

@@martinsimracing1255 is more different V3 from CSL pedals? I have CSL pedals but looking to forward to buy V3

[@martinsimracing1255]

@@duximus01 I know it’s been awhile since my comment but since then the csl load cell has developed more travel or broken in more, now I run it 100% force and it’s has pretty good travel so my trail braking is much better but my racing IQ is still below average lol.

[@raikkusaatana]

But what now when you can (if you are fast I guess...) buy CSP v3's at 299€ on (B)Friday, if same price, is Elite LC v2 still more wise option? Of course in look department CSP's look better etc but inability to move pedals side to side etc is big minus in them compared to Elite LC v2's. Of course if you buy v3's, you also buy brake performance kit(19.95€).

[@randomcallsign]

wait a few hours and come back. ive just uploaded a video that goes out at 1600 UK time

[@MarineCity90]

I am from Korea. I have a v3 pedal, but it is inconvenient because of the brake position, so I am thinking about buying a cls pedal and cls load cell kit. What do you think?

[@husssrc]

i had csl lc pedals but break pedal had no distance i had no control on breaking tw bought v3, they are like white and black compared to csl lc. if u have money dont ruin it by buying csl lc pedals, just go for v3 they are amazing with break performance kit

[@shorty808100]

Damn right brotha set you preload to about 2.5 or 3 and you gtg you gotta use preload at 0 at least, that’s what the manual said anyway I’m using a Green 14 and a red 15 elastomer springs for a medium feel to my breaks ppl who buy V3’s and don’t get the performance kit are crazy I gotta get one of those hydraulic pistons that are like $89 for the V3’s for my gas pedal the spring is starting to wear

[@ccramit]

I have a Formula V2.5 wheel with the APM's so I don't even have my clutch pedal attached anymore. I don't drift and I dont do rally racing. Nor do I race classic cars so it's not really necessary.

[@WilburWalsh15]

This vibration motors will be running with Csl Elite wheelbase? on PlayStation ?

[@Toutvids]

No, I got CSL Elite pedals for $100, not spending 4x that for a set of pedals. I am not a professional esport racer, I drive trucks in ETS2 most of the time and play Wreckfest and WRC for some offroad or crashing fun.

[@-Dominix-]

OMG I'm just about to buy VR for F1 22 and wanted V3 as well, but not sure are CSL LC enough for me. Thank you for this vid!

[@trd4life302]

Need your help. I use the G29 wheel with shifter and pedals for my PS5 for Gran Turismo 7. I wAnt to use the clubsport pedals v3 with the G29 wheel. How do I set it up for my ps5? No one seems to know online :(

[@randomcallsign]

You need a drivehub

[@VodkaRob]

I got a set of V3s but I wanted a damper on my throttle pedal for F1. Also the CSL pedals weren't out when I got mine. Very happy with the V3s though.

[@nielshupje6681]

Can i get rid of the clutch pedal on the v3's?

[@jermainehendriks5360]

Hey great video....what kind of shoes or socks are those and where can I get a pair?

[@kevinm3751]

Would love for Fanatec to make HOTAS systems! The quality of their hardware is second to none and would love to get a system for my space games from them!

[@Daisudori]

Virpil or VKBsim

[@nodekapunk]

Winwing is pretty awesome. I was nervous about dropping over 1k on a Chinese site but worked out great and the f18 rig I got is spectacular

[@church493]

May i ask, what footwear you use? And how are they? Do feet get sweaty in them?

[@randomcallsign]

sure. I use watershoes. simhound sent these after I started joking about simracing watershoes. Check this video out ofor a generic reccomendation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipaXp2WJjK6bj9k

[@biturboi6]

What socks/shoes are those?

[@ChessSerbia-t6z]

Why there is no CSL Loadcell V1 vs CSL Elite V2 comparison ? :)

[@randomcallsign]

maybe ill do it in the future

[@ChessSerbia-t6z]

@@randomcallsign For me its not important if you answer me :) Is V2 Elite better in every way then standard CSL Loadcell ? Or there is something that CSL V1 do better ? I am thinking to buy Fanatec next week for my PS5 Console , Gran Turismo DD PRO 8nm bundle (Base + Gran Turismo Wheel + Basic Pedals),so should i buy the load cell pedal only for the basic CSL or CSL Elite V2 is the way ?

[@tomchamberlain4329]

Yooooo, thank for the video. Can anyone answer my question with experience.....how compatible are these pedal sets with a Thrustmaster t300rs wheel base? Does one function better than the other, or is there an issue with compatiility with either?

[@ikt32]

How do you reviewers manage to compress the load cell rubbers that much? I have the new CSL Load cell, but I think it's basically solid and really just feels like trying to compress a stone. I ended up modding a spring into the brake stack to get *some* travel before it gets stiff.

[@randomcallsign]

Film it. You'll see it compresses quite a lot.

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

Also use it on a rig. if you sit properly and have a solid rig, much easier to brake.

[@amped96]

I know I’m replying to a year old post, but I feel like Fanatec sent reviewers different versions than they sold to the public. Everyone complains the CSL load cell has no travel but when I see these reviewers talking about them being soft and you can see how much it travels for them… something doesn’t add up!

[@stephencheung4361]

Hi its the motor on the v3 pedal compatible wof ps5 games?

[@SvenGM-j8h]

Im looking to upgrade my gear. I have the fanatec csl elite. what do u recommend? Im looking to buy the v3 pedals and maybe looking to buy the h pattern to can I connect it to my wheel base?

[@pingu4396]

Can I ask what your keyboard is called?

[@rodgadala]

Would the CS with out loadcell be the best bet for an office chair?

[@randomcallsign]

Yes

[@s1lfyh14]

interesting that CSL pedal looks just like my moza srp pedals..

[@amigoz3201]

Damper on throttle is absolutely useless it makes laggy throttle feeling! On pedal it make more hydraulic feeling and i liked it for sure!

[@JimmyZ408]

Why didn't you reference the V2 pedals?

[@randomcallsign]

Because... At that time... They didn't exist...

[@JimmyZ408]

@@randomcallsign Good Answer, Lol. Are the V2's worth the upgrade over the CSL pedals with upgraded load cell?

[@randomcallsign]

Not really. They are better, but a bigger jump is needed.

[@simracingbob6802]

U changed to stiffer spring for the throttle on the CSL? If so how?

[@randomcallsign]

Swap the throttle with the clutch

[@B1G_UN1T]

@@randomcallsign awesome I'll do that also

[@chrismccombe6961]

Personally I don't see the point in buying the cheaper csl if you're going get the load cell break you might as well spend the little extra and get the v3s the build is much better and they have more customizable

[@doifeellucky]

Apart from being double the price.

[@randomcallsign]

There are many budget driven users.

[@chrismccombe6961]

@@doifeellucky well I've had both sets and the extra is well worth it for the build quality and the extra adjustments you can have and if you race in shoes the v3 seem stand up to beating better

[@doifeellucky]

@@chrismccombe6961 Ah OK, thanks for the feedback. I’m currently considering a DD wheel and pedal upgrade over my old T500RS so anything will be an improvement. Stock issues seem to be very common at the moment at Fanatec so considering an alternative.

[@chrismccombe6961]

@@doifeellucky yah I got the DD pro wheel base it's, definitely worth it as long as you have a proper rig for it and there nothing wrong with cheaper pedals but I think you end up upgrading them in time like I did

[@MRacer001]

could you compare the fanatec V3 and/or the CSL LC to the Heusinkveld Sprint Pedals?

[@randomcallsign]

I dont have the sprints

[@XavierGoncalves89]

I had the v3s and now have the sprints, in my opinion, for a first pedal set get the csls, if/when you decide to upgrade, get the sprints

[@josemiguels7688]

Desconhecia o canal. Grande comparação. parabéns

[@randomcallsign]

Obrigado, mas hás de ver os outros vídeos. São ainda melhores 😁

[@josemiguels7688]

@@randomcallsign ei de ver. Ainda não tenho um sim mas ando a pensar nisso

[@easyvideott7505]

If I buy Fanatec DD Pro for PS5 and Fanatec V3 pedals, is that compatible with one another?

[@randomcallsign]

Yes

[@Ors180717]

Will the new load cell kit fit the old csl elite pedals (the all black ones)? Or will it only fit the new csl pedals?

[@randomcallsign]

Only fir the new ones

[@Ors180717]

@@randomcallsign thanx! I’m screwed then haha I’ll have to buy the new pedals and get rid of my csl elite ones just to get the clucth lol

[@vytbbb7146]

what about elite v2 vs loadcell? are the extra 100€ worth it?

[@randomcallsign]

yep

[@vytbbb7146]

@@randomcallsign can you tell the difference between them out of the box?

[@randomcallsign]

Oh yeah. Night and day

[@vytbbb7146]

@@randomcallsign what are those differences?

[@randomcallsign]

The brake pedal has much better progression and control. The V2 brake pedal is extremely good. The 90kg Loadcell vs 60 helps so much.

[@akpanjennings]

I’m not noticing any changes on the website. Does the affiliate link offer a discount?

[@randomcallsign]

It doesn't

[@jeff666p]

How would the csl lc compare to tm lcm

[@randomcallsign]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/rpzCmGCCm9Z0itk

[@ComissaireGibert]

I have question about mounting CSL pedals. Can i mount them on 2 M6 screws, because my rig have only one line of hardmount, or i bend pedals with this type of mounting?

[@randomcallsign]

yes. theres 2 m6 screw patterns at the front. at the back you can use m6s as well with washers

[@ComissaireGibert]

@@randomcallsign and they won`t bend if i mount them only on 2 screws at the front?

[@randomcallsign]

they will move

[@burgerbait]

I got the v3 pedals cos they looked the coolest

[@omarliew1164]

I got the csl's after i used the v3's from a friend and did not like the feeling of the pedals at all. So the csl's looked like a better deal to me. Have them about 4 years now and still doing great. Only one question though. You say you use the full 90kg from the load cell? While i don't even use the max of the csl. Compared to real world driving i need to put way more pressure on the csl to achieve the maximum pressure. In a racecar you have your weight helping alot when pushing the pedal. While sitting in a stationary seat there's only your leg pushing. 90kg's sounds about right for real world driving (hard braking) but a bit overkill though for simracing? Not sure if you drive i.r.l. yourself but i wonder how you think about this.

[@akpanjennings]

4 years? The CSL he is comparing only been out 1 year

[@omarliew1164]

@@akpanjennings so? Same product line but newer generation. I only meant i liked the csl better then the v3's at the time. So for the price it was a better deal. Would probably be the same for me with the new csl's since they should only be improved right?

[@Sam_pah]

Im still using my Clubsport v1

[@hockey161616]

What keyboard is that?

[@randomcallsign]

tecware phantom rgb with blue switches, EPOMAKER Dawn XDA keycaps

[@chuckwallagaming]

Wow… I recently bought the CSL load cell pedal and I thought it felt really stiff. He has way more brake pedal travel with the load cell than I do… I wonder if I got a defective one

[@heikoheinlein9318]

Thats normal. These are stiff

[@chuckwallagaming]

@@heikoheinlein9318 I’ve gotten used to it

[@Unknownmanufacturer]

You want stiffer, you gain better modulation.

[@luisalves4793]

ora boas que sapatos usas ?

[@oktc68]

The V3's look great but aren't that great, specially the brake pedal. The CSL Elite V2's would be the obvious choice for those who demand a superior brake pedal that punches well above it's weight.

[@MrQuitoso]

Obrigado camarada! Bora la encomendar os clubsport!

[@weijiadeng8012]

CSL pedals look cheap, although their performance is way better than thurstmaster's better looking ones. I think this is fanatec's businesses statics that make the CSL pedal look cheap.

[@worstenbroodje6832]

I gotta say, that's a sexy looking keyboard.

[@nflisrigged1395]

Love vibration on my V3 It's like a cheating device, to know if you're spinning or over braking. Luv mine.

[@MarcTravis-z9r]

Stoltenberg Corner

[@one2actual890]

Clutches should be hard to press as in real life high HP cars need a strong pressure plate. The bite point is needed because after getting used to the feel it makes launching a lot easier.

[@tuff77777]

So which pedal set do you prefer?

[@one2actual890]

V3s@@tuff77777

[@AnotherBangaTV]

looks like the socks have rubber grip on the bottom! duh

[@gregglasscock7470]

Spoiler. The v3 pedals won’t do much for you compared to the csl ones. I’ve had both. As someone else has mentioned in comments lots of race cars have travel in pedals anyway. If you’re bugging out over force vs travel put some foam inserts in the csl’s. I honestly performed better with them.

[@akpanjennings]

The V3 don’t feel noticeably different? I’m thinking about upgrading if it’s worth it.

[@gregglasscock7470]

@@akpanjennings they feel different. They are nice. Would I upgrade looking back? Probably not but that’s just me. Tons of people spend way on these pedals than I think they are worth. If you want to have them go for it.

[@bpcuaie]

Save your money for a bit longer and get the Heusinkveld sprints. Yes, they are 200ish € more expensive for the two pedal set but it's absolutely worth it and will retain value way better than anything fanatec has to offer. If you're set on fanatec then don't go for the CSL. I haven't had a chance to use them for a long time but they are 100% a downgrade from the previous model. They really cheaped out with these pedals.

[@MrJr1976]

I want to use these on consoles as well so any Heusinkveld pedals are not an option

[@PhantomBuster]

Those V3s look amazing! Great video

[@woolf9035]

Answer yes

[@PhilDiasPJD]

I had the original csl elites. There were fantastic. The new ones just look cheap and nasty especially with the plastic faces. And as for the v3s, aside from playstation compatibility, the Heusinkveld Sprints are in a different league in comparison. Frustrating how Fanatec has to upsell everything instead of making a better, more complete product in the first place.

[@randomcallsign]

Sprints are 760euro with baseplate.

[@krmx37]

the original csl elites looked like plastik. this one is out of metal, just the caps are plastik. what are u talking about?

[@CJ-uh8bk]

The new CSL’s are built way better then the elite’s, better sensors, better prices and the plastic pedal faces are perfectly fine

[@Sideways_Singh]

U can get metal plates for like 20 bucks from fanatec

[@PhilDiasPJD]

@@Sideways_Singh that's my point. After 20 bucks plus more shipping the add vat. Just not worth the hassle getting the inadequate product in the first place.