Rings of Power Season 2 is Not Very Good - Part 8: Shadow and Flame

[@OtoEbe]

I am proud to say that I did not watch a single frame of Rings of Power season 2, but followed the entire season on this channel. Thank you for providing detailed and humourous reviews.

[@theother1281]

I only watched it to enrich this channel.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

Same. Gotten dozens of hours of entertainment from this show without watching a single second.

[@matusporubsky5477]

Same

[@adi525]

@@OtoEbe i stopped mid 1st season and have only been following the events from here

[@sirburscur1788]

ssame hahaha

[@poissonsumac7922]

When Sauron killed Glug, I was shaken! A grand tragedy, the magnitude of which has been unseen since the days of Shakespeare! Tears washed over my cheek like a spring rain over the bones of a spoiled carcass as I desperately tried to sweep them away like salt from a table. In the end, I had to drown my sorrows in a gallon of ice cream. Salted caramel flavored, of course, because the sea is always right.

[@gorrarz5760]

you son of a ... why did you have to remember me of glug?! im still shaking. i dunno how i can live without him 😢 poor orcs are jsut misunderstood.

[@SquallLionhart409]

Glug did not choose the glug life, the glug life chose him. There shall surely be a tempest within viewers upon viewing such a thing.

[@mere7583]

Alas, poor glug, I knew him

[@insensitive919]

Who knew orcs had so much blood in them

[@jamesdreads7828]

Flippin spoilers man, shit

[@dardobartoli]

The show that launched a thousand youtube channels and this is the cream of the crop

[@Lostjayyhawk]

I think Disney started this trend. Last Jedi started a rebellion

[@Emanon...]

It started with Force Awakens after most of us realised we had just paid for a beat-for-beat remake of "A New Hope". We never realised how lucky we all were with Peter Jackson.

[@dardobartoli]

Guess I never loved those franchisees quite like LOTR....

[@molletre9606]

This. And theres a very own hypochrisy going on with all these new channels. Copy each other, watching something they dont like, just to get the clicks because its the new shit (for a short time). Random is a pleasant exception to this, he is way longer around that this RoP Shitshow and has his own unique take for criticism. Because he explicity dont dive into the lore/canon problems, its more about how utterly bad the writing, the whole craft of this crapshow really is.

[@The_shady_puffer]

Thus dies Glug the brave, Never to be forgotten, Joining Waldreg in his eternal state, Where nothing is misbegotten, Leaving the glugling and glug-wife alone, With only his spadle to not be forgotten, - Rest In Peace Glug 2024-2024

[@abzolute.]

We knew him so well too. Not since harambe has a tragedy struck me so deep in my soul. I was literally shaking after that scene, RIP in piece.

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

We shall form bands of men and run around yelling Glug in his name

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

Raise your mugs to Glug, boys. May his surviving son know rage and strength, that he may avenge his proud father 🍻

[@Mitsoxfan]

Glugling will avenge him, in the name of his father, Glug. And his father, Glug Sr., and his father before him. Jim.

[@bondagebritney3124]

We can look forward to Glugmom continuing his legacy, fighting for Military Widow's Pensions in Season 3, and Femorc Liberation season 4 culminating with all the wives leaving their Orcs at Sauron's defeat leaving the men to reproduce via mud slime, and why Saruman had to tell them to bring Merry and Pippin unspoilt.

[@martinpetersen9558]

I just love the "take the fucking ring off" it really cracks me up.

[@Jonjon13Jonjon13]

º*~^ Take the fucking ring OFF ^~*º

[@saudade369]

“ Just step away from the donut “ ……

[@brennatargaryen]

My favorite recurring gag in this series! I absolutely lose it every time

[@keegan4854]

4:34

[@Duke_of_Lorraine]

"Gandalf already arrived one age too early, how can we top that ?" "make Saruman already plot to overthrow Sauron, one and a half age too early !"

[@Frankje01]

and there are people who actually enjoy this show. I really am just dumbfounded.

[@dragonmaster1360]

@Frankje01 The ones that unironically enjoy this show are ideologically captured, have never read nor understand ANYTHING about Tolkien's work, or both. They are, quite literally, masses of sheep, following along and bleating at the lights and sounds.

[@christophertheriault3308]

@@Duke_of_Lorraine as Gary from Nerdrotic said, I half expected one of the Stoors to say "what a sour man" after he leaves...

[@RunesandReapers]

@Duke_of_Lorraine no such thing as Canon hence no such thing as timeline hence no such thing as ages. Okay okay maybe a few hundred years

[@djb9267]

Correct me if i am wrong, but there was a time where saruman and sauron were in middle earth as enemies, right? So, Saruman's Job was to stop sauron, before joining his side, meaning it isn't wrong for saruman to want to destroy sauron in the Show. In fellowship of the ring, gandalf is very suprised by the dact that saruman joined sauron. So it isn't a contradiction for saruman to want to destroy sauron before his fall to his side.

[@AT-il4xl]

Can't wait for "The Dark Wizard destroyed your city? That's so mean! He sounds like such a *Sour Man*"

[@Sornemus]

This had me cracking :DDD

[@TheLewisDawg]

I can't even laugh at this. You KNOW they're just itching to do it.

[@silviuvisan505]

Lol

[@AT-il4xl]

Reminds me of the meme people made about the Minecraft movie: "You were supposed to be the Hero Brian", but that was obviously a joke. Rings of Power genuinely did the same thing thinking it was great writing

[@raycon921]

yeah, and Halbrand is the Sour one 🤣

[@The_Laughing_Cavalier]

"Waldreg... yes, Waldreg the Grey, that was my name. I am Waldreg the White, and I come back to you now, at the turn of the tide... no literally the tide is turning, I switched off the sea with my latest contraption and now it's coming back!" - Rings of Power, Season 3

[@aurex8937]

The sea is always left!

[@Horvath_Gabor]

Oh my god! It wasn't Eru Ilúvatar who sank Númenor! It was Waldreg! It was Waldreg all along!

[@GeordieSwordsman]

@@Horvath_Gabor He can't keep getting away with this!

[@ThomasStevensontutor]

And thus it was Waldreg who drowned Numenor, along with the very man he worshipped, Sauron. Truly the most tragic character of the age.

[@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954]

​@Horvath_Gabor I'm laughing, but they probably will honest to Morgoth do something like that lol

[@username901000]

I was hoping Adar was Celeborn so Galadriel could become Glug's evil step mother

[@knicknevin9975]

Can't wait for the end of the series where Saruman is like 'Yeah, sorry about all that. Water under the bridge? I hear Galadriel wants to make a council of all the most powerful people in the land. I volunteer as leader. It's the obvious choice."

[@XraynPR]

"I have a great skin care routine, I heard Galadriel might be interested in that"

[@RachederBanane]

Glug and his unexpected demise, though tragic, opens up intriguing possibilities for exploring his family. How will they cope with the loss of such a central figure in their lives? First, there’s Glugina, Glug's formidable yet tender-hearted partner. She's known for her strength in battle but also for the quiet moments she shared with Glug, away from the chaos of war. Now, without him, will she seek solace in someone else? Or will the void left by Glug harden her heart, turning her into a fearsome leader in her own right? The potential for new alliances, perhaps even romance with another Orc or an unexpected ally, offers rich storytelling potential. Then there’s Little Glugling, their child. Born into a world of darkness and conflict, Glugling faces the pressure of living up to his father’s legacy. Will he follow in Glug’s footsteps and join Sauron’s forces, eager to prove his worth and avenge his father’s death? Or might he take a different path, one that questions the very nature of Orc loyalty to the dark forces? Glugling’s journey could be one of self-discovery, torn between his father’s shadow and his own destiny.

[@roccondil5]

You just wrote an infinitely superior script to what this series gave us

[@nathanmorgan3647]

@@RachederBanane I am thinking Glugina and Guyladrial join forces in revenge against Incelron, and perhaps find a little modernity-approved love in one another's arms along the way. Let's ship 'em! Oh god, I just made myzelf throw up.

[@cosmicmuffin322]

I ship it! 🤮

[@nisonatic]

I think the Glug show could really capture the spirit of ROP. Don Lemonlass should meet the Glugs by a ridiculous contrivance. Stirred by the Glugs' pain and grief, he finds Glug's corpse and makes it into a skinsuit. The show can have hilarious comedy where Don wearing the Glug skinsuit tries to pretend to be Glug and is rejected repeatedly by the Glugs. Despite this, he lectures the Glugs about Elven morality like respecting trees and rejecting unga bunga, and that it's very rude to say he's obviously an elf wearing Glug as a skinsuit. Then Pharazon tells the Glugs, "hey, you know that's just an elf in a skinsuit." The Glugs, stirred by disinformation and hate, unga bunga Don.

[@Mangaka-ml6xo]

At the end of season 5, she will kick Sauron in the balls then go duel with Galadriel!

[@Joanna_smith]

I should actually study but this, this has my highest priority

[@chrisbolland5634]

I've got a paper due in 4 hours that I have only a page written for. It's either this or write....

[@raycon921]

when Sauron became Galadriel, I thought it's gonna be a big reveal that somehow the real Galadriel was locked in somewhere from the beginning of the show. That would've explained everything 🤣

[@saudade369]

Maybe she is actually just a good looking Orc ,who can manage to get away with things all her life because she has pretty or privilege ? There were levels one and It explains that twitchy nose sneer and such a bad temper for an “ ethereal “ elf . The big reveal is that she is Glugs trans orc son magicked by Sauron into minds to get revenge on the elves by humiliating them and reducing them all to simps and nicking their jewelry before eating them . ………Maybe …..

[@Xemi129]

I had a similar „hope“ in season 1 when she touched the Palantir I hoped that she’s gonna see where her dufus actions are gonna lead and decides from now on to be the wise and fair elv we know….

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Or that Sauron had Galadriel trapped in an illusion, and has been manipulating/replacing her since the boat.

[@raycon921]

@@Kyle-sr6jm exactly, there could be done soo much more with this story that it's so painful to watch seeing the lack of imagination of the writers 🙄

[@nero8278]

The son of Bronwin stuff was probably the most unintentionally funny thing in the two seasons....

[@wangusbeef86]

@@nero8278 Played out like a Monty Python skit, I swear lol

[@Batmarkman]

Yes!!

[@GeraltofRivia22]

​@@wangusbeef86exactly what I was thinking. Parts of this show would be amazing in a Monty Python movie. I particularly enjoyed the scene of one guy chanting Pharazon.

[@Lurker_Z]

The Son of Bronwin making him Lord because Bronwin was the only one in _the whole damned Southlands_ who could pull herself together and give orders was so cringe and peak _RoP_ logic.

[@BlackCatBritt]

@@wangusbeef86 seriously. The part where Disa is holding Durin back from trying to save his father from the Balrog, then the other dwarf grabbing onto his other side, then the THIRD dwarf ALSO randomly appearing and grabbing onto HIM...I busted out laughing. It was so Monty Python-like, and the fact it was supposed to be a genuine serious moment is just the cherry on top. (the moment I mean is at 14:51 in this video)

[@sebastianlea6362]

It is a crime against humanity this channel isn’t much much bigger. Thank you for excellent content

[@steffanhymer1285]

If it helps i first found his content when he had i think about 2.3k subscribers. And since has grown to over 60k in less than a year if I'm remembering correctly. He's doing quite well and hopefully manages to keep pace on his growth. Luckily he has Season 2 of Arcane coming up to give him more solid content for a bit.

[@Klickor]

​@@steffanhymer1285I remember watching one of his early season 1 videos right after it had come out and remembering how surprised I was at his low number of subscribers. I thought I had missed a couple of numbers. It was single digit thousands at the most and I am sure it is just a matter of time before it is in the multiple hundreds of thousands m.

[@GeraltofRivia22]

​@@steffanhymer1285 I hopped on around 20k subs. This channel definitely is going places.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

Random pointing out how ridiculous it is that the Balrog attacks the dwarves, then waits for them to have an emotional goodbye before doing so again, is hilarious to me. Like the idea that the fuck mothering Balrog, one of the most evil entities of Middle Earth, halted his unholy fury and attacks because he overheard a father and son work some shit out, and *decided to let them do so* “Okay, ya done? Patch things over with your son? Say goodbye? Good, good. You’ve just spared him a lot of trauma, Mister King Dwarf. Good for you. Now where were we, oh yeah BLAAAAAAAARGH 🔥 🔥 🔥”

[@jessjess23brooks89]

You don't remember when in Fellowship the same Balrog let Gandalf give all the hobbits kissies before ripping him into shadow and flame? I member. Such a gentle-demon.

[@andreeacrisan8233]

5 minutes of fame for Balrog and goodbye for the dwarves is enough for the “ancient evil” bla bla bla to go back to sleep until another Durin needs to apologize to his son 🤔

[@fandommaniax9179]

Not to mention the Balrog woke up early. It wakes up when durin the 6th is king

[@QuillStroke]

"Now that Adar is highly fuckable." This made me laugh harder than it should have. 😂😂😂

[@Roei18]

I burst out laughing

[@Haus_360]

Sauron: Die for me Orcs: Nooo! Adar: Die for your kin Orcs: Hmm, maybe, no Sauron: Die for me Orcs: Fuck yes!

[@s3.14dervision]

My favourite part of that last episode was when Adar stood up amidst the orcs and inspired them with his rousing speech saying, "they may take our lives, but they'll never take our Glugglings!!!". 🫡🥹😢 So stunning and brave! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Sornemus]

And then he Glugged all over the place

[@vassago1223]

1:56:03 galadriel: "This is how were going to win. Not by killing those we hate but by saving those we love."

[@Kyle-sr6jm]

Galadriel is more of a "Killing everything we hate, not saving what we love" kind of gal.

[@MrZetsu1995]

I have to say, seeing how much time and effort you put into your analysis videos, this channel is criminally under rated. I found your channel because of these Rings of Power analysis videos and have since binged almost your whole catalog. So while The Rings of Power is a shitshow and a half, it has given me something to look forward to. Cheers to the great work you do and here's to hoping for 100k subs sooner rather than later.

[@BadNessie]

Nooo! Adar can't be dead! I was gonna bet that he would return the ring to Galadriel, they fall in love because he once was Celeborn and then they kiss while Galadriel is wearing the ring, so he turns back into smooth for good, as her kiss is now beauty-and-the-beast-ing him back into his original form. What a loss.

[@Jonjon13Jonjon13]

In Season1 I expected Halbrand to be the King of the Dead, the leader of the ghosts that help Aragorn... Like, he's a bad guy, he's gonna do bad things, he's a king of men, but kinda wants to redeem himself... imagine if the actually joined the good guys and seemed to genuinely be on their side, only to at the final moment be tempted by Sauron or something else makes him and his men fail to help their allies, making them cursed for eternity until Aragorn calls on them to give them redemption. It could've been an incredible story, but instead we got "oh, the CLEARLY shady guy is the big bad, surprise". What a loss...

[@havvagokce1441]

... Damn, orcs would be galadriels adopted/inlaw kids.....

[@CJAmara]

This would have been a far better story than the tripe Amazon has put out for two seasons

[@theother1281]

They need to build up the Elrong/Galadull romance angle and then have Celeborn return from Valinor, a la Glorfindel, and a heartbroken Elrong then marries their daughter who matures incredibly quickly because Celeborn turns out to be the one who fought the balrog and created all the mithril in the first place.

[@Klickor]

They forgot that Adar killed Arondir in-between episodes 7 and 8 so the writers might forget that they killed Adar between season 2 and 3 so I wouldn't give up hope just yet. It is RoP after all

[@nebby9751]

There's three things I can praise in this episode. 1. Galadriel finally got something that vaguely resembled a humbling. 2. Gil galad made me laugh twice. Patiently waiting by a coma patient just to berate them the very second they awoke, and the absolute insane Frank Reynolds energy when he yelled 'Dwarves!'. I'm not sure the latter was meant to be funny, but it had me howling. 3. My nightmare did not come to pass. When Galadriel asked Adar what his name once was, he didn't respond with 'Celeborn'. Even the sentient potatoes writing this script did not dare go that far. That's it. This episode was a dumpster fire, and I'm eagerly awaiting watching Random tear into this bloated mess of no payoff, time-wasting plotlines. I'm also expecting a giant trampoline joke or two about Galadriels ability to ignore the consequences of gravity 😂

[@aurex8937]

I think they would have done the Celeborn thing but they likely thought Celeborn was Celebrimbor because they kinda sound alike. The Gil-galad thing made me howl. It was like: "Sup girl, forgot to tell you I can't stand you, lol" and it was unintentionally hilarious.

[@sparkspl]

YES! That 'Dwarves!' sounded and looked like worst/best outtake ever, they left it on purpose, cos they don't care and they despise Tolkien fans. I was like: this is actor making fun on set. Funny but sad.

[@drivingpancake8137]

I have to thank you for putting so much work into your videos so we don't have to watch the show. You 100% put more effort and thought into your videos than the writers for rings of power did into the show. You definitely deserve your time off. Have a nice one🙏

[@bondagebritney3124]

Amazon will reveal new lore that Galadriel is made of Galadrinium which reacts with hot air and hot headedness to create anti-gravity tempests in her.

[@Mangaka-ml6xo]

Regarding your third point, I think it wasn't by choice but rather that the writers forgot about the character of Celeborn XD

[@neilgedalla3599]

Isildur saying the dagger had already stabbed him so the damage had been done, reminded me of Baldrick writing his name on a bullet because "there's a bullet out there with your name on it" and he was unlikely to shoot himself. I don't think the writers want me to think Isildur is on the same intellectual level as Baldrick, but at this point anything is possible.

[@joshuapotter3326]

Brilliantly put, couldn’t agree more

[@Marjax]

Shame, but that's not the only thing about this show that is 'very small indeed ' The writers collective brains, for example, couldn't fill a small seafood tin

[@nisonatic]

"My lord Adar, are you sure an unga bung is wise? We've already unga bungaed the elves 66 times." "Ah, but you see, that's the brilliance of it. They'll never expect us to unga bunga them a 67th time!"

[@Popepaladin]

Isildur might have been merely joking, speaking in jest if you will.

[@reginaldwooster235]

​@@Marjax Everything about this show is small. You see the balrog in LOTR and you imagine it's escape was a mining operation of immense proportions that turned into a cataclysmic society ending event. But here it's just released by one dude who dies in a rock slide. Heck, the ruin of the stoors village was more dramatic.

[@semicharmedlife311]

"The Balrog has seen the Fellowship of the Ring." With its feet up, from a comfy chair, popcorn in hand.

[@BIGESTblade]

It would've been hilarious if everyone in Pelagir just decided to gaslight Kemen into thinking that Bronwyn is someone very important.

[@insensitive919]

Aw man, why can't this show be a parody

[@cosmicmuffin322]

​​@@insensitive919with all the male characters trying to out-gaslight girlboss each other. Sauron with his gaslighting skills, frequent crying, and sleek hair bows will probably win

[@Batmarkman]

Hahhahah

[@TheNoonish]

The writers gaslit the audience into thinking Bronwyn was someone very important.

[@BIGESTblade]

@@TheNoonish I mean... no they didn't. She was always so irrelevant that you kept wondering why she's in the show. Her absence is one of the few improvements since the first season.

[@trowf10d]

When Galadriel says "The door is shut", I was instantly reminded of this (much better quote): "“The way is shut. It was made by those who are Dead, and the Dead keep it, until the time comes. The way is shut.”" Definitely splitting hairs here, but I don't think this was a coincidence. The dialogue in Rings of Power is carefully constructed to evoke the same tone and gravitas (but the entire fight sequence between Sauron and Galadriel is hollow and vapid).

[@DiggerPat]

Nah, it's an uninspired call back to her line in the Fellowship book where she talks about understanding Sauron's purpose concerning the elves and him wanting to perceive hers but can't.

[@HNCS2006]

oh they definitely knew they were copying. it's what they do. badly imitate.

[@TravioliRavioli]

Ok now thats a bit of stretch bro

[@GrudgeyCable]

The only good rings of power has brought this world is this man’s reviews and breakdowns. Thanks you for your service sir!

[@obikenobi9851]

Someone wrote that Grand elf line and was very proud of themselves.

[@Simon-PierreChaplain-Corriveau]

Suffering the pain of having a world I love not only betray but destroyed week to week by incompetence, your work has given me the peace of understanding better the trauma. Receiving your diagnosis helped looking forward. And since you dissected virtuously, you brought us together offering us the grace of feeling less alone in this deception. So for all this, thank you

[@TheNoonish]

Two seasons in and Gandalf has learned his name and acquired a staff. The plot is a colossal waste of time and is utterly disconnected from everything else going on. We can’t even pretend like it’s developing character because Gandalf is trying to unlock his memories and nothing he’s doing is representative of who he really is. Every second spent with this plot is time that could have spent giving other plots time to breathe, like Durin III’s corruption. Think of what a great character Boromir is. Now imagine we got multiple seasons of telling the story about a great hero who experiences a tragic end. And then you have Isildur, who will go on to ultimately defeat Sauron after Gilgalad and Elendil and his off-screen brother are slain, but fails to destroy the ring. What a great, tragic character he could be. And look at what the show does with him, having him kidnapped by Shelob off screen only to spend time chilling with Theo and cucking a wild man.

[@multi-florum]

Inceldur

[@peytonmacdonald6295]

2 Season in and they turned two long beloved characters into a weird bromance with super gay undertones, oh wait they already started that with elrond and durin i forgot thats just what we do to masculine characters now... FUCK YOU SHOW

[@cappinjocj9316]

Also, Gandalf has just found Radagast the Brown’s staff, which becomes Gandalfs staff when Radagast gives it to him in the Hobbit movies… oh no I’ve gone cross eyed.

[@Seomus]

we also found out that Gandalf is Good.

[@TheNoonish]

@@cappinjocj9316 it looked to me like the staff Gandalf had after his resurrection, which he presumably got in Lothlórien. But I haven’t looked that closely.

[@jjww30]

In season 3, I’m awaiting the plot line of Glug being granted passage into Valinor and resurrected.

[@exantiuse497]

Not after how he betrayed his papa. I say Adar is resurrected and comes back as Celeborn

[@solarsailer4166]

Writers of this show(and every ruined IP) sound just like the worst newbie writers in workshops I’ve led. They think their first draft is gold, lack self awareness therefore don’t realise the immorality of their heroes, and are insufferably defensive. It is shameful to see talentless people given opportunities when thousands of talented writers working and honing their craft cannot get their foot in the door. Yes, I know that ‘it is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose’. I can deal with that. However it’s disheartening to see people failing up over and over again.

[@jooglebob]

@@solarsailer4166 Yup, hence why the show runners weren’t even good enough for Bad Robot. Hard to believe they spent a billion bucks over two seasons, yet hired some of the lowest quality people to put it together.

[@Emanon...]

Their interviews are quite revealing: They never speak of their characters' motivations, background and thoughts, but instead reference other shows that had "cool" moments in them that these overrated morons try to recreate. "Slo-mo" Snyder. "Ctrl+C" Abrams. D&D. These talentless fucks. Failing upwards is the norm, not the exception...

[@disbeafakename167]

Have you tried going trans or becoming a POC?

[@advogadododiabo6940]

Have you considered the writers usually have little to no say in productions this big in comparison to the money people and their representatives (the showrunners in this case)?

[@SpecterVonBaren]

I think I've realized why these guys were put on this project over people more competent. BECAUSE they are incompetent. They are weak and talentless. They owe their entire position to the favor of someone else, which makes them supremely easy to control. Bezos, much like say, Joseph Stalin, does not WANT someone competent, he wants someone easy to manipulate because someone that is competent has leverage they can use against their leaders.

[@Oxnate]

Someone else pointed out that it's possible/likely that there are multiple writers, each writing their own parts of the story. Which is why the dwarf parts have the closest thing to good writing but nothing else does. It's also why none of the storylines interact at all.

[@Sornemus]

Eeeehm, to be fair - they do interact. In both seasons. Very extensively, actually. Only Nori-Gandalf storyline is very isolated from everything else.

[@HarrDarr]

@@Sornemus they really don't interact in any consequential way, they exist to trade macguffins to each other and nothing more until the last 2 episodes of s2

[@Lurker_Z]

My headcanon is that the dwarf parts as not so bad because you just can't write bad dwarf fiction.

[@Angrenost02]

Nori distrusting Rasputin because he killed Skeletor is pretty nonsensical considering she was fine with Not-Gandalf pulverizing the Androginites into moth clouds last season. My this sentence is pretty funny without context.

[@Spiderfisch]

Durin having a brother out of absolute nowhere was the final straw

[@jooglebob]

Sure, but man there have been a whole lot of final straws before this.

[@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954]

The final hay bale.

[@reginaldwooster235]

What type of paint thinner have you been sniffing for THIS to be the final straw?

[@christophertheriault3308]

The size of your hay bale was much larger than mine

[@GILGAMESH069]

Galadriel getting kicked in the face is oddly satisfying

[@Faktor13]

So the Orcs KNOW the secret tunnel into the city, but choose to kill a mountain to make a dam instead

[@nathanmorgan3647]

@@Faktor13 they worked damn hard on those trebuches and dammit they are going to use them!!

[@XraynPR]

@@nathanmorgan3647 If I had a railgun trebuchet, you better be damn sure I will use it

[@anonymussicarius8899]

The Celebrimbor torture scene is a bastardized memberberry to the lore, where after capturing Ost-in-ethil and therefore Celebrimbor, Sauron tortures him in order to find out who has the three rings Celebrimbor had crafted without the help of Sauron. But since Celebrimbor stands in defiance and refuses to tell Sauron anything (please note: the 7 and the 9 are at this point in the posession of Sauron, but not the 3!) in his rage Sauron fastens Celebrimbor onto a pole, odrers his Orcs to turn him into an arrow cushion, and then wields the body as a gruesome standard during the following battles.

[@Popepaladin]

So it is lore accurate that Sauron would choose "just shoot arrows at him" as a torture method?

[@anonymussicarius8899]

@@Popepaladin No. Because this was the choosen method of execution, after it had become clear that Celebrimbor in his a final act of defiance had withstood many other, and may I add way more refined, forms of torture and refused to tell Suaron who the three rings were given. The execution was meant to be humiliating, beeing turned into a target for the Orcs, and the use as a standard a frigthening reminder to all his foes not to mess with him.

[@reginaldwooster235]

Also, wasn't that after Sauron forged the one?

[@anonymussicarius8899]

@@reginaldwooster235 Yes it is. The whole war started only after Sauron had forged The One. But for the question "Why dose show Sauron put arrows in Celebrimbor?" I deembed this to be irrelevant, since even ppl only knowing the Jackson films know from the prolouge that the show is destroying the order in which the rings are created.

[@reginaldwooster235]

@@anonymussicarius8899 That's fair enough. I need to read the silmarillion again, the last time I read it was probably ten years ago.

[@PhattyBolger]

I love that they're doing the Disney Star Wars trope of characters surviving after being run through with a sword.

[@Barnesofthenorth]

And so it was revealed that Sauron is the Christmas Child of bad guys, he just hopes really hard that everything will work out for him, and because of a Christmas miracle it does. Next season Santa brings him his present of the one ring.

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

The way Sauron words his command to Glug “Kill every elf and bring me their leaders” I expect the orcs to just bring him the very dead bodies of all the Elven leaders

[@lordofthepizzapie9319]

This is why syntax is important, boys and girls. It'll make all the difference in your stint as a dark overlord.

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

@@lordofthepizzapie9319reminds me Of what happens in the film the 51st state

[@kaltaron1284]

That would be the logical fullfilment of that command. But we've learned in this show that Sauron isn't actually that bright.

[@nathanmorgan3647]

​@@kaltaron1284It is vecause Galadriel would,t let him in her pants. Dude has had blue balls since Morgoth went to the void. Hard to think straight.

[@djb9267]

​@@lordofthepizzapie9319What exactly is "syntax"?

[@jinks6005]

Best ROP commentary period. Complete and utter failure of story telling. Change Galadriel to Celebrian and you might have a decent story but I have no doubt they would have found a way to mess up that. I desperately hope this show is never cancelled so that I might continue to enjoy these reviews. Well done sir.

[@jessjess23brooks89]

I would have loved to see an Elrond and Celebrian love story 😭 they could have picked a fanfic written by twelve year olds with their eyes closed and somehow summon their only good storyline.

[@jinks6005]

@@jessjess23brooks89 Substituting Celebrian for her mother would be too logical for the ROP show runners. The script’s requisite Orc hatred is far better served by Celebrian as her motivation is easy to understand by all audiences from the fanatical to the casual. The show’s writers would probably be confused as to how they created a likeable female character and would quickly undermine her by having her go full Stockholm Syndrome and fall in love with an angry, well muscled but ultimately misunderstood young Orc who gives sweets to the human child prisoners out of kindness and not to fatten them up for dinner. Their forbidden love would of course be put to the test when Galadriel sets up Celebrian on a date with a handsome evil young metal worker named Halbrand in the hope that her daughter would come to her senses and dump her Orc boyfriend Splub, in favour of the way cool upwardly mobile evil lost evil King of the evil Southlands, Halbrand And hey presto, no sooner than ROP has a ship-tastic love triangle, who arrives on the scene fresh from his recent break up with Prince Durin? Why it’s dreamy Elrond

[@exantiuse497]

Galadriel being Celebrian would have solved so many issues with that character, from lore perspective at least. She would be a relatively young elf instead of an incredibly ancient one (explaining why she is so rash and lacking of wisdom); she wouldn't have the obscene magical powers Galadriel has in the books so her being overpowered would be more plausible; she wouldn't me married so her falling for hot men would be more appropriate, and the romance between herself and Elrond the writers clearly want to push would actually make sense and be lore accurate. Her motive for hunting Sauron could be that she thinks her _parents_ rather than brother are dead (they wouldn't really be, just missing, and they'd appear in a later season, or maybe they'd be dead and return from Valinor which is lore-plausible even if not accurate for those specific characters). It's pretty sad that random KZbin comments make so much more sense than the actual show

[@MajorSmurf]

The only reason they don't want to do that is because she is not a character in LOTR (Movies) and possibly that Celeborn would have to be an actual character. Can't have the daughter without the father being more relative. Hell seeing as how they gave Cirdan negative screen time, they could have Celeborn instead. Honestly seeing Galadriel being an actual leader would be nice, as she is in no way close to being wise. A hamster knows more than she does.

[@jinks6005]

@@MajorSmurf They could easily include Celeborn in a Celebrian centred story because the writers would no longer be shipping Galadriel with Sauron. The writers would still mess it all up and I can think of a number of ways they could do it but suffice it to say that they would probably turn Celebrian into a sort of a Pattiy Hearst- type figure who joins the Orcs in their war against the people of the Southlands in order to rebel against her Aristocratic parents as she falls under the sway of the handsome young rebel leader Che Halbrand. You'll never guess who he really is.

[@andrewsteelman59]

I understand the reasoning for why one would think Sauron can manipulate time due to the way the story is presented, but honestly I don’t think that was even remotely the intent of the writers. They simply don’t understand how the passage of time works or how to write a story, period.

[@advogadododiabo6940]

Yep, it was simply an illusion where some details were imperfect, like candles not being spent. The same time that is passing in the illusion is passing outside. But the looping rat makes it more convoluted than necessary which may mislead the interpretation.

[@petriew2018]

i think it's worse than them not understanding, it's that they frankly don't care enough about their own story to even think about how the hell it actually works. They wanted a payoff, they took the shortest route to that payoff, how they got there is just 'nerd shit' to them They would honestly say is doesn't matter if it's a illusion, time manipulation, whatever, it's all the same. Even though this kind of has massive ramifications on the power levels of their characters going forward. This is fundamental incompetence.

[@kahinaloren]

@@petriew2018 I do not entirely disagree. Though, to me these were just glitches in the matrix as it were, and no time dilation involved.

[@petriew2018]

@@kahinaloren but then you'd have to have some idea of what 'the matrix' is within this universe, and how much power Sauron actually has over it. Otherwise his power really is just limitless, and it completely ruins any possible tension scenes like him fighting galadriel actually have because the rules so far established are that he can magic anything out of his ass at any given moment This is the problem with vague yet overpowered abilities. If you don;t give your audience some idea of where the floor is, they have no point of reference for what characters can and can't do, and immersion is just gone. So yeah, what the fuck that actually was IS important in defining what Sauron can and can't do. But these hacks never ever considered that.

[@kahinaloren]

@@petriew2018 Yes. I think the only solid example out of canon is Gorlim the unhappy from Beren and Luthien/Ley of Leithian were Sauron lures in Gorlim by creating an illusion of his wife in their cabin or something like that. So he can make visual illusions for sure, but trap a man in a sort of false reality/matrix entirely is another matter. Personally as I said I did not mind these scenes all that much, though as a general tendency I would have preferred everything toned down.

[@moshtradamus92]

I'm so thankful for your videos. You break down every single issue I have with this show/why everything feels so wrong in such a meticulous and well thought out way. These autoposy videos have been 100x more entertaining than the show itself and I genuinely looked forward to each and every one. If only the writers put half as much thought as you did into their billion dollar show maybe we would all be enjoying a golden age of Tolkein. I can only imagine how much work goes into each one of your videos and I want to thank you for your service. You are extremely talented and it pains me to see that your talent isn't being put to use on a much larger scale while these so called "writers" (hacks) are making massive amounts of money in roles they have no right in having. I hope they spend an immeasurable amount of time watching your entire series because they obviously didn't for season one, which I cannot fathom because what kind of professional doesn't want genuine feedback as to how their work can be improved?! This entire critique series was done in good faith and judging the show on it's own merits which is so commendable. It is so much easier to critque it in comparison to the Jackson trilogy and Tolkein's work, but you did it the correct (and much more difficult) way. Again, thank you. You deserve the time off as to not become your retarded alter ego as you mourn the loss of Glug; you have my thoughts and prayers ♥ As for feedback on your critique, I honestly don't have much. The Balrog just going back to sleep after killing the king is absolutely comical and one of the laziest excuses of writing I have ever seen. The amount of added mystery boxes to desperately persuade the greenlighting of season 3 in this episode alone is astounding (Durin's brother? Elendil's second son? Cemen teleporting to Pelagir to tell the men of Wilde they must pay in timber alone because Ents? Adar's name and Elven history? The letter the 100% proves Miriel's collusion with Sauron that was definitely not forged by Lord Buggernutz minutes prior; what did it say? Sauron in possession of the 9 rings for men that he will now have to personally deceive the best of Men has to offer? The Sword or the Shield? The Elven sanctuary of definitely-not-Rivendell? Raputin's attonement to Gandalf to regain his trust as an extremely close ally? Glug wife and Glugling now a broken family?) Sorry my brain is frying as I try to think of all of them. Also, I think they wanted the audience to believe that the trees helped slow Galadriels' fall as they made an effort to show her hit them on the way down? And conveinetly land on a pile of brush? Also, the FACT that Aarondir is somehow alive and the show just forgets that it gave us the edit WITH him getting stabbed not once, but twice, only to act as if it never happened whatsoever is honestly mind-boggling. Imagine being the actor and seeing that and not being like "hey, guys? what was that?" - I imagine we will start season 3 with Theo burning another wrapped up body in Pelagir (it's like poetry, it rhymes). You know what it is? I bet it is because they totally forgot he ties into the Ent plot and need him for season 3 AFTER the fact. Unbelievable. IF season 3 is a thing, they DESPERATELY need to just write out the Nori, Poppy, and Gandalf plot. This show just tries to do too much with too many characters; they even made new, ORIGINAL characters in a story that already has too many in the source material. While I still believe the Numenor plot should have been it's own entire show, rotating between the Elves, Dwarves, and Numenor would alleviate SO many issues (not nearly enough to salvage this, but it's a good start). Now excuse me while I go and watch the Jackson triology in their extended editions as a pallete cleanser. See you in December!

[@clairelucy5667]

Regarding world building costuming is so important. In good media costuming is an immediate way of telling you about a character. It can indicate culture, social class, financial status, lifestyle, a characters values and personality. For instance a high quality but dirty cloak vs a poor cloak in prestine condition tells you a lot about them, even small details like a sleeve being damaged where a character picks at it with anxiety. A person's clothing is important. Rop fails so often. Sometimes cheap cuts are the problem such as the printed on fabric mail for the numenorians (and what's with the moob armour), sometimes it's immersion breaking such as the numenorians randomly having perfect elven armour of perfect size for galadriel in season 1 as well as lending her an oiutfit whilst shes there wgich doesnt match what the numenorians wear, the limited changes in outfits meaning time doesnt seem to pass which also adds to the feelinh they are teliporting, sometimes it makes no logical sense such as the lack of basic armour, even chain mail when elronds led quest from Lindon to erigone in season 2 when they know there may be enemies and even choose the group for their fighting skills, galadriels final white dress also makes no sense as she couldn't be wearing it under her outfit the wsy it was in eregione and it is highly unlikely that the fleeing elves took the time to pack extra clothes and energy to carry them and the ones we are shown definitely don't, the armour too is illogical, the most obvious is the horses in the cavalry charge where the armour does not protect their chest but only protects where the rider is sitting, again poor quality is a problem with clearly not metal breast plates even in close up shots (most obvious when elronde and gilgalade are prodded whilst on their backs), illogical is the rusted armour of the guards/soldiers of erigone during the height of its glory which is also immersion breaking as it doesn't make sense, for me one of the most frustrating is the fabric choice of poor quality rough looking of anatars white outfit, to fit his character as one of the valar the fabric should be sumptuous and rich, it aggrevates me so much each time. Tom bombidle is also one of the biggest offenders. There are many more examples over both seasons. And god the props, worst one i think is rasputins staff, just look ay it! World building is such a key aspect to telling us a story and when things jar for one reason or another it truly does impact the viewer and costuming is really important in that (you've said it yourself with the lack of costume changes increasing the feeling that they are teleporting). I would love it random if uou could include a small section on this in your final autopsy

[@LandotheDrummer1]

1:49:29 As soon as they started calling him "Grand Elf", I yelled "NO, SHOW! NO. DON'T DO THIS" at the TV multiple times through when he told Tom Bombadil what his name was.

[@TheDefectiveAI]

If it turns out Rasputin is Saruman which would make sense from a producers standpoint since they seem to want to put in every identifiable thing they can think of from the lord of the rings. However if they did it would throw a wrench in the setup from fellowship as Gandalf trusted Saruman to be good and was surprised that he sided with Sauron. Here though, he’s given up the ghost that he’s ambitious as all hell and manipulative of those he would call friends. So Gandalf trusting him afterwards is laughable. I’m leaning towards it being Saruman because the writers like name dropping identifiable shit and they’re banking on their audience being film watchers more so than book readers. So the chances of them namedropping any of the other wizards is unlikely. Then again they might NameDrop someone else purely to spite the people guessing it’s Saruman even if they don’t have anything to properly set it up.

[@Lurker_Z]

Canon Saruman had also been corrupted maybe a few years before the destruction of the One Ring by the Palantir. And from what I remember, his motive wasn't even to rule, but to survive under Sauron, who he believed would take the world anyway and he'd rather not be tortured by his mad brother for eternity.

[@BryanJohnson4891]

I have waited for this video anxiously 8pm every day. I’m so damn happy it’s finally aririved

[@FredCunha-mk6nw]

As Théoden said "Rest now. Rest now! Rest!! Rest for you and the mind's mending!". I don't know how any of us have been able to reach this point in time, having watched the 2 seasons of this.... errr... show wholly, as still somewhat functional beings. But for you, I would hope there to be room in Valinor. Your work is tremendous and mind-shattering. I appreciate everything you've done. Petition to play 'November has come' by Gorillaz so you have a proper vacation send-off.

[@m1a8o2]

I'm sooo happy! I CANNOT WAIT! I'll be preparing the popcorn again.

[@wavetactics13]

And so passes Glug, father of Glugling.

[@thetubaman66]

So I believe they want you to believe that galadriel's fall was broken by a tree and that stopped her from any injuries 😅

[@emileelynette3158]

Anyone remember when the show set up how Earendil foresaw that Celebrimbor's fate would one day be in his son's (Elrond's) hands? What was that all about?

[@BrendanCoulter-cb4uq]

Remeber when the stranger said "no one can give you a name" earlier in the season and then the harfoots give him the name grand-elf and he just goes with it.

[@TravioliRavioli]

Grand-Elf reminded him of his name cause it sounds similiar - still stupid, but he didnt „just go with it“

[@madamefluffy4788]

You really got to hope that this Rasputin twit isn't Saruman; because how much of an idiot would Gandalf be to ever think he was a trusted ally by the time the events of Lord of the Rings happen if he witnessed Rasputin trying to kill his friends? But then, this is the same series that had Elrond kiss Galadriel and Galadriel - even briefly - fall in love with a disguised Sauron; so I wouldn't put it past the show runners to have Gandalf conveniently forget Saruman trying to kill the halflings (if they don't forget about the scene themselves).

[@Ragitsu]

Amnesia.

[@MartainnMacaBhaillidh]

Note reads: Miriel and Sauron up a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g

[@louissamson4609]

Hats off for the amount of work for theses videos. I'm a lotr book fan and I did not watched RoP s2 and wont watch it. Having said that, I couldnt wait for your weekly episode about it and had been a highlight of my week for me and my gf. Well done!

[@introvertedrobot3681]

The way they "give" Gandalf his name is on par with how they ruined Nick Fury by saying his eye patch is because of a space cat scratching him.

[@rdchristley]

Dude I am so HYPE for your upcoming content! Also please take time off as needed and wanted, don’t burn out we need you around dunking on Gilgadaddy and the crew

[@recapnerd2657]

There was a line where Calebrimbor said that Elron was supposed to save his life, and as we can see, that was a wasted line.

[@ioanamoiceanu9533]

If that is Saruman I am sueing! There is no way they can fuck up a character more than Galadriel! Saruman was supposed to be trustworthy and good before he gets corrupted by the palantir. Why on earth would Gandalf go to him with information about the one ring if he was shady from day 1? Also, can these guys stop with the "I'm going to heal the world" bs from Sauron already! There is nothing wrong with the world except him! Sauron just wants to rule. Tolkien is as good vs evil as they get, expecially on the evil side. The good side has some very gray or even dark characters, but evil is evil. Orcs are barely cognitive and always need a master. Tolkien is not WoW Also, really? We're doing Hodor with Gandalf? Really?!?

[@jaroslavstepan6084]

Thank you RFT for your hard work. I can't imagine more professional and at the same time entertaining way to teach basics of storytelling and storywriting. Enjoy your well earned days off!

[@TheMadmatt7]

Just know, Random, that all your hard work (and self-torture) in watching ROP for us is eternally appreciated. May you reach a million subscribers soon!

[@j3i2i2yl7]

It was very generous to assume that Sauron created a time loop to give time for the rings to be forged in a show with so many continuity errors. Perhaps he also used this power to allow time for the walls of Eregeon to be built and for Eronder to heal.

[@Jonjon13Jonjon13]

Yeah, Sauron having "time bending" abilities is clearly never meant to be the case, nor intended by the authors. Of course there's time continuity errors and it doesn't make sense that somehow Celebrimbor makes the rings in a day or two all by himself but alas...

[@kaltaron1284]

We have no idea how long it took the Orcs to besiege Eregion. It feels very short like a few days at most but it seems like the authors think many weeks have passed. Which would then again raise questions with the bloody dam.

[@exantiuse497]

The siege lasting for weeks is not at all unrealistic to be fair. Medieval sieges often lasted for weeks or even months or years, in fact the most common tactic was to sit outside the settlement until it runs out of food and surrenders The orcs don't have a way into the city since it's surrounded by the river and attacking via the bridge is suicide, they only get in once they block the river (the way they do it in the show is ridiculous, I'm not even trying to explain that) Meanwhile the elves are outnumbered ten to one so they can't sally out, and the river+mountain prevent them from escaping (except the tunnel... for argument's sake let's say Celebrimbor and Galadriel were the only ones who knew about it), so all they can do is wait and hope help comes before they run out of food (or the orcs somehow dry up the river and attack) My assessment is that the writers intended the magical world to be an illusion and not a time loop, and Celebrimbor saying he had been working for weeks was intended to convey that the siege had indeed lasted for weeks, however the way the scenes were shown made it look like the orcs attacked immediately after laying siege which made it sound contradictory. It doesn't help that the show had played it very fast and loose with the passage of time before

[@Jonjon13Jonjon13]

@@exantiuse497 you got it perfectly right IMO, its all just so inconsistent as a whole that it bears mocking ^^U its impossible to tell id the siege has been a day or two, or actual weeks. And why would there be random people still running like headless chickens on the street if the siege has been going on for weeks? One would assume civilians would just seek refuge and stay put, not keep running in circles lol just another nonsensical part in the equation

[@kaltaron1284]

@@exantiuse497 You already noted some of the things why this doesn't make sense but here's another: The damming of the river occured very early on and the orcs have either incredible luck or incredible precision (not to mention range) with their siege engines so opening the doors or breaching the walls should have been quick and easy.

[@roflcopter4273]

"Well done on your quest, let's sing a song about meee!", lol.

[@bellaschnella1602]

The fact that Adar decided to chill in the woods instead of entering the fallen city to look for his arch-enemy, who is the sole reason he came, when he finally has the means to kill him (so he thinks), and who he knows is a manipulative power-hungry nigh-immortal being *deep breath* is the single most incredible, stupid and incomprehensible decision I've seen a character make in this season. It rivals Galadriel's decision to sweep Sauron's existence under the rug at the end of S1. Only this time it destroys a semi-decently written character 😖

[@StevenStorm1]

Man ... the amount of time they take in the first half of those seasons to explain exactly nothing to us but drag it out like it's some epic story ... just to rush everything in the 2nd part, so we don't notice that none of this makes sense. And how they try to be clever with the Sauron being killed by Ardar/Orcs inversion scene ... WOW they did absolutely nothing to make us understand this characters and why they come to the conclusion to do this. It's just a "clever thing, a clever writer would do, look at the symbolism". When in reality it's actually the only reason that the Orcs betray Adar is that the Orcs have betrayed Sauron before. Clever. The dwarfes ... I don't know what to make of this. So the Balrog is no longer a problem because ... a paperthin wall has been established between them and the fire demon. Yeah okay. And we're teasing more Game of Thrones bullshit now with the dwarfes because remember that show? Also I feel like we haven't heard anything of this brother of Durin. Who is he? Why is he not the Prince? Durins mother died giving birth to Durin if I remember correctly, so he should be the younger brother. Is the true heir therefore the brother? Where was he all the time? Did Eddy Stark have him as hostage in Winterfell? How does he even know that daddy Durin is dead? I must say I really love that you don't reason that the show is bad because it doesn't follow some irrelevant source material, but that it's bad because it makes no sense 🙂 Have a great November-vacation ^-^

[@michaelnewswanger2409]

Technically Pharazon does not need to believe that Miriel is working with Sauron. He can simply be using that as an excuse. I don't know how he can convince everyone of the accusation without admitting that he looked in that super scary elf stone that everyone hated. The entire secret tunnel escape with the orcs already knowing about it is stupid for many reasons. I hate everything about it. It really says something about the writer's intellect when that is the only way they can contort events so that Galadriel faces of against Sauron. Why did Sauron need to beg the orcs to follow him in the first episode if he can mind control them in the last episode.

[@harrow9389]

My two favorite ringtones from this channel are "Take the fucking ring off" and "Stop it women, you know what happened last time."

[@tansangirlie]

I'm glad you complimented the actor for Celebrimbor because I felt so sad for this man giving his all in this pile of garbage. Most of the actors did pretty well, it's just crappy writing and nothing makes sense.

[@colbunkmust]

**Ahem** Well, you see, the reason why the guards unquestionably follow Pharazon's orders is quite simple: Big Birb. 🦅

[@TheNoonish]

One more thing I would ask the writers about is the Celebrimbor/Elrond prophecy. "One day my life will be in your hands." That should mean there's a moment Elrond faces a choice or an option, and either fails to act or chooses wrongly. What moment would they say Elrond dooms Celebrimbor? If you ask me, it's in episode 2 when he went to pout in the Grey Havens instead of heading back to Eregion to warn Celebrimbor. But that decision happens entirely off-screen so the writers did not focus on it. Would they choose the moment Elrond halted the charge to save Galadriel? They don't really let that moment have the weight it should since they again have important things happen off screen, which is Elrond entering the orc encampment to parley. It's a setup with a payoff somewhat missing.

[@MajorSmurf]

Balrog like "Boo bitch, killed ya daddy!" Balrog than got very sleepy and curled into a little ball and took a nap. "Killing daddies is very hard work," mumbled the sleepy Mr Balrog. "Oh! Just tell me about it!" replied Gilga-daddy. "Who the fck are you?" Mr Balrog screamed in shock. "I'm your Gilga-daddy." Gilga-daddy replied smugly, licking his lips. "Come here, big boi." Mr Balrog didn't have a good time. He now suffers nightmares about all daddies and promises his revenge on all daddies. Meanwhile, Prince Dwarf and all the other dwarves didn't care about dead daddy dwarf and forgot all about Mr Balrog living beneath them... as in some twist of fate a brother sprung up out of nowhere. Mr Balrog will have his revenge.

[@Vio1380]

That's better than the actual show and most wattpads fanfics😂

[@harbl99]

See this man? See him? Only he understands what JRRT really intended when he wrote of the duel on the ramparts of Gondolin between Glorfindaddy the golden-haired and Gothmog, lord of Buckbrokerogs in the tale of the _Fall of The Lords of the Locker-Room of Gondolin_ . (That tale was later bowdlerized into its better-known published form by Christopher Tolkien, who did not comprehend his father's authorial intent so closely as does OP!)

[@dogewanderlust4359]

Everything needed to advance the plot is conceived not in advance or too late but EXACTLY when it's needed hehehe .

[@Behatted]

The time loop problem is solvable by basic competency in writing. All they needed to do was show Celebrimbor exhausted on some previous occasion such as when Sauron was claiming he was stretching himself thin, show us a few cues for "oh, Celebrimbor is exhausted overworking himself," and then have that be what tips him off to the fact that he's in an illusion several episodes later. Not because Sauron, The Deceiver, was too stupid to not have a looping CGI mouse, but because he's exhausted despite sleeping and realizes it's because whenever he tries to sleep, Sauron is giving him the illusion of sleeping and waking up but actually he's not sleeping at all. We can then have him think he's been there for weeks because any free time and sleep he's had has actually not happened, he is having fake memories inserted into his head to skip past anything but him working on the rings, and has been there for drastically less time but has also done nothing besides work. I can't even begin to talk about my other problems with this show and episode because I have too many at this point to narrow it down. But that one is, once again, completely explainable... by doing five minutes of thinking, which is more minutes than were spent by the writers thinking about all the plot points of this show combined.

[@SallinKari]

One thing I find interesting is that no one seemed to pick up on the thing that... well... Skeletor's people use to be kings... and we are in desperate need of kings of men. I bet you Sauron is going to approach them, tell them these rings will clear up their skin conditions, and boom... ring wraiths.

[@nathanmorgan3647]

Cant have a skin condition if you dont have any skin!!

[@SallinKari]

@@nathanmorgan3647 SUCH CLEVER WRITING!

[@TheMorgwhhlshilth]

As currently battling the plague (or equivalent) this is the best news I have gotten all week.

[@nisonatic]

Hope you get better soon!

[@TheMorgwhhlshilth]

​@@nisonatic Thank you, much appreciated!

[@hard_at_work]

I have checked in at least thrice for the final edition and now the premier rises and is soon upon us

[@TheEnergeticPanda]

Im so glad you started making these and became an active youtuber. I eagerly await each one of your videos

[@GeoffTrowbridge]

Given that the seven rings clearly are capable of corrupting the wearers to the point where they will do Sauron's bidding without any further persuasion... Why does Sauron even need to make the One Ring?!

[@slaapt]

Where did they do Sauron's bidding? I'm reasonably sure no orders were given.

[@dominic150]

The dwarf lords in no way did any of Saurons bidding. Where did this comment come from?

[@advogadododiabo6940]

King Durin went as far as refusing Anattar more mithril

[@petriew2018]

he read the script....

[@leighsimmons2663]

I’ve never seen such horrific writing. How has no one questioned this script? It breaks every tried and tested literacy device. I’m constantly confused watching this show without realizing exactly why. Thanks for putting into words why I’m finding it so hard to emotionally and logically follow this mess.

[@benjnorris57]

9:23 I took that line as meaning the mountain isn’t a thing that can be owned. They did establish that the stone singers have a connection to the mountain in a somewhat coherent relationship of equals. So maybe it’s an entity of its own in their eyes? I realize I’m stretching but that is what we have to do to make this show make sense.

[@kaltaron1284]

It could also be a reference to Aule but we're giving them too much credit I think.

[@kahinaloren]

I took it the same way. Seemed fairly obvious?

[@COI-O3]

Calling it now the death of glug kicks off glug-wife's girlboss arc

[@jjww30]

I’ve heard a lot about some sort of elven army, but I never saw more than an elven platoon on screen at any given time.

[@christophertheriault3308]

Note that we care more about losing Glug than we do the nameless elf lady who had to steal Boromir's death to try and make us care about her...

[@Mornings]

having a character say we wuz kangs and then get killed is hilarious lmao

[@MotanuClujean]

This was the best showing of Alter Ego. You Sir, are a master of your craft !!!

[@clairelucy5667]

Miranders fall face down landing face up gets me every time. The physics in that sequence of shots is fully absent... but gotta get that sweet money shot of her face before she dies

[@moshtradamus92]

doesn't the orc flip her over?

[@brendanryan3354]

Were this in theaters and in 2000ish, I would be camped out for tix to this premier as we speak.

[@multi-florum]

My best friends and i camped out for Return of the King. They aired Fellowship, Towers, and Return back-to-back in the same theater. Good memories. :)

[@m1a8o2]

I feel the same!!! This made my entire week a hell of a lot better!!!

[@kaltaron1284]

@@multi-florum Did the same with some friends minus the camping. But the many endings were torture as the last break had been some while ago and we drank quite a bit of soda if you understand.

[@Mangaka-ml6xo]

I recall when The Two Towers came out, me and my buddy went to the first screening at midnight, I had to take an important math exam first thing in the morning at school, great memories. Also school took all of us to the theater to see that movie, one of the best school trip I've had. Damn high school was great back then. right before all the BS with social media, cellphones and things of the kind, back when games and movies were awesome!

[@multi-florum]

@@kaltaron1284 It was our own journey to Mount Doom, though. We suffered along with Sam and Frodo. XD

[@bryanttownsend381]

I am so fucking PUMPED for that final autopsy video. Its going to be glorious! Until the season 3 autopsy, of course.

[@miss_viridia]

I found myself watching every episode of Rings of Power just so I could watch these videos properly. It was almost worth the rage I felt at things like Tom Bombadill quoting my favorite Gandalf line out of context. Still your videos are like the light at the end of the dark tunnel that is ROP and every week I can't wait for the next one to come out. Thank you for that.

[@askarsfan2011]

I think because the writers tried to conclude all the storylines in the final episode, they probably ended up with a 2 1/2 hour episode, which Amazon absolutely refused to air. Then they had to do so much editing and cutting of important information that the episode turned into a collection of plotholes. Arondir's miraculous recovery is probably the most egregious because there is no explanation for it at all. Personally, I think Adar healed him. Adar took the Ring from Elrond, put it on, rediscovered his love for fellow Elf, and healed Arondir. Unfortunately, we don't get to see it because there is no time for this scene in the episode. Also Sauron convincing all the Orcs to follow him instead of Adar is probably another cut scene. Gandalf fiding a dried up stick under his feet and deciding that was his magic staff is probably the lamest origin story the show ever did. The writers have no time to develop anything interesting or creative because they have too many subplots, so all of these character developments are lame and banal. They should have done the stories in consecutive order -- the way that Tolkien actually wrote them -- instead of trying to cramp them all into a single soap opera.

[@funkydiscogod]

Even good shows don't survive a grand finale being cut down into an any% speedrun to end credits.

[@xLionsxxSmithyx]

The only reason I'm looking forward to season 3 is because we'll get more videos like this. 😅

[@squirrelsyrup1921]

Why did Mirdania suffer bone-crushing injuries from a 25 metre drop when it's established in The Hobbit trilogy that Legolas in full battle armour and carrying a bow only weighs 4.1 kilograms? She could have used her own dress as a parachute.

[@krachnicka]

Gil-go-away and Gilgabandage had me howling 😂😂😂 i live for your commentary videos, dear Random.

[@trowf10d]

Random here thinking about Sauron's plan and motivation more than the writers ever did

[@ZagXcIv]

1:35:42 “The offer to rule together as King and C&$t”. Too funny. 😂 I was giggling throughout this whole video. Excellent commentary. So glad I found this channel.

[@marymaza2187]

I can't believe the writers killed off Glug 😢 I was actually rooting for him to go back to Mrs. Glug and Glug Jr.

[@ComradeCommissarYuri]

Thank you for making these random Was also good to see you on EFAP for the breakdowns of this season there