Randy Orton on why young guys NEED to develop a relationship with Vince McMahon

[@ccrz77]

“all you gotta do is knock on vince’s door poke your head in and develop a relationship with him” every other wrestler: i have to wait outside his office for hours before i could find out if he’s actually even in there

[@KHVNEKI]

it took me 2 decades.. new wwe stars like wtf 👀

[@sangan3202]

yep, the boss should also care enough to know his own fucking employees lmao

[@Reapehify]

@@sangan3202 you work at the top of a corporation with 100's of employees, in all areas, and a considerable turnover, and he should care enough to know everyone? Lol. He works with the people who matter; it's their job to make themselves matter. If you don't matter, you're excess waste and you get turned over. That's corporate. He's the man, and you're not. You have to make time for his schedule, not the other way around.

[@GothamBat100]

I think Shawn Michaels told a story saying they were people waiting in Vince is office and he said fuck that I’m not waiting and he walked in and Vince was impressed

[@exquisitelemonade3039]

@@GothamBat100 If people don't like that business way of doing things they should either adapt or leave, simple. And I think the way Vince is, he's probably thinking "if you can't get my attention and keep getting it until I look for your attention, how can you bring in a fan?" He's a salesman first and foremost, impress him, and he knows you can impress people.

[@mikethaysenjr6653]

I don't think the writers are intentionally trying to bury anyone, they just arent qualified to book wrestling and shouldn't have been hired in the first place.

[@ay613]

yep take that comedian who wwe actually hired.

[@yosefvargasx]

Good point

[@thatboyaintright]

Lol they hired a rom com actor in Freddie Prince Jr. WWE needs a better hiring process for writers.

[@ay613]

@@thatboyaintright ffs.

[@rafaelmonteiro2299]

@T West Russo did a lot of great storylines when supervised, Mantell is a gold writer too

[@BlueAmerican26]

Randy is so well spoken. Oozes experience and wisdom now.

[@parasiteprem]

U mean ooozes venom

[@JpocalypseHD]

The voices in his head talk to him.

[@Dakatari]

In order to move up in any company knowing the owner definitely doesn't hurt.

[@Dakatari]

@Bourg Productions Randy and a lot others are doing it

[@alonfizi4213]

Knowing the owner doesnt mean kiss the ass

[@kodokumusic7602]

@Bourg Productions it is the opposite , randy has always been one of the WWE favorites , ever since a young age till this day he is still a mainevent wrestler . This is why they gave him a 10 year contract back in 2010 , and even now that he's 41 the gave him a 5 Year deal with a 5millions salary , if they are not kissing his ass , they fear seeing him somewhere else.

[@DranimX]

@Bourg Productions being nice to the boss, and gaining his trust..eventually getting air time, and more money? Ass kissing seems worth it tbh haha

[@dennisjr77]

@Bourg Productions…… if you want that push and 💰…… put your ego aside and go for it!

[@VictorNewman201]

This is good advice for many different situations. Even if things don't work out, you will know you tried to create good relationships and outcomes.

[@LuizEMachadoMusic]

Me, a guy who will never persue wrestling as a profession: write that down, write that down!

[@epicmusiccocktail3724]

Same bro

[@samortega8586]

lmaoo same

[@davidmills1349]

Kurt got his logo looking like the NBA Logo

[@amritjir4925]

We got eyes lmao

[@abnuridd24]

Business oddly enough is more about relationships than merit. You can't just go into a corner and train and come out and expect opportunities. That goes for a lot of professions.

[@wastedimperium777]

Randy giving away the sauce, it's gonna make Vince think these relationship attempts not genuine. 😭Then again, it's a business.

[@Padge112]

I wonder how it felt for Vince to work up. He had to build that with his own dad. He's a different cut of Human. Imagine being in his head for a day. I'd probably slip into a coma.

[@nwaarmalek6242]

im pretty sure as long the relationship gives him a lot of money, in his head.... probably genuine enough.

[@Adontheimperfectionist]

"It's a business" is such a bail out statement now, overused...

[@mkhanman12345]

you don't know what it will make vince think because you aren't him, lol. You can post that you are assuming it, etc.

[@wastedimperium777]

@@Adontheimperfectionist yeah I can see how the truth can be overused

[@Padge112]

Austin dropped a line on Tough enough years ago that fits here. I've used it in my life and it works. "Don't be meek and don't be weak." Especially with your boss building a work relationship pays off dividends. And if people call you an ass kisser it's because they can't or won't play the game. But why should you and your families success be hampered by jealous people, your own fears and apprehensions. Just bite the bit and do it.

[@Bouts12]

This is not a WWE thing. It applies to any job. Develop a good relationship with your superiors. It’s not about “ass kissing”. People in those positions are often job and results oriented. Developing that relationship means showing them what you can offer and that they can trust you because you have the ability and you’re committed. If you don’t do that you may have the ability, but they have no way of differentiating you from the other 10, 20, 50 people who do the same job as you.

[@kayskreed]

Building a relationship with Vince McMahon = Giving him a Stone Cold Stunner every week, on and off the air. :D

[@TramRide]

"took me 2 decades to get to the point I'm at now" -is the youngest heavyweight champ of all time-

[@johnangelle5975]

That quote was specifically about his relationship with Vince not his career

[@tommyettinger1353]

in fairness his world title push was also cut short due to immaturity he floundered for a little while until his feud with Undertaker really cemented his spot, people blame Triple H but it was a move that in the long run better'd Randy, similarly a few years later formed Rated RKO with Edge and got back in the main event picture so he had some bumps along the way didn't just Hogan the belt his whole career lol

[@tatergillespie8173]

Also was to strip brock Lesnar of holding that title. He won the same year brock basically said fu to the wwe

[@jqiro_]

Who did he beat??🤨

[@TheKhaosDemon]

In a job in life; if you don’t have a good connection with your Boss, you’re never gonna go as far as you would if you’re in your Boss’ mind and good side.

[@stevie3424]

Networking is important in ANY company. Build a good relationship with as many co workers as you can and sooner or later you'll be moving on up

[@kukunase1686]

yep

[@brandonwhite4992]

Damn this is great advice for everyone in general too.

[@Vickmeister]

Does Kurt Angle ever ask any questions? I feel like he’s kinda just there lol

[@whatsthisaboveme6064]

I mean he's a wrestling veteran like randy. He most likely know randy and understand everything he knows about the business

[@chriscostanza8873]

Randy orton out here teaching life lessons

[@ocsjc13]

Who else remembers way back when randy was so immature and he would get so mad so easily Irl. But it looks like the dude has grown snd has gotten some wisdom

[@full6330name]

This counts for everything.

[@dougripley861]

I wanted to hear that damn Bruce Prichard story 😂

[@yosefvargasx]

Hell yeah lol

[@CristianGomez-x1g]

Can you find it on Bruce Prichard podcast

[@phenompy]

Randy was smooking weed, Bruce smelled it and told on him. That's it.

[@jamesmason7979]

I'm distracted by that Thanos doll Orton has in the background.

[@dirvdevenecia9053]

2018 Statue of The Year hahahah

[@snyjnz]

I'm so fucking proud of RKO

[@Dantezim1]

Did anyone noticed Randy's TOOL pictures hanging on his wall? That's freaking cool.

[@Johnnie999]

Only Brock Lesnar can have the privilege of not having a good relationship with his boss

[@BenRover2961]

he can, but he chooses not, he like vince more than he liked dana white

[@alexmonro1711]

Lesnar F5ed Vince off a bridge

[@unbiasedguy8636]

@M Billa and on pat's show vince and brock both appreciated each other brock also told that vince is a father figure to him.

[@theonlygoodonehere2259]

brock and vince does have good relationship

[@RICHIE_RICH89]

It takes time to gain respect.

[@yosefvargasx]

Is that a thanos statue?

[@krishnavashishtha]

RANDY Orton is the best wrestler in the world

[@gregoryfuller9736]

I agree

[@SnipingIsFun]

I would say one of the best but probably not THE best. When you say stuff like that you are comparing that wrestler to wrestlers from all companies, all countries, and all decades. That is a lot of wrestlers to sort out to find "the best".

[@mijaroprime9509]

@@SnipingIsFun stfu people have their opinions

[@theonlygoodonehere2259]

randy orton is only a great sports entertainer guy, he is not a wrestler guy

[@lukejamieson1267]

why edit out the bruce story.

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

I think randy tension with Bruce maybe about marijuana or suspension cause of drugs

[@jaymuscleup2582]

I like randy he vs anybody dose not matter what match his in he will do it if your a low level wrestler or high level remind me of the undertaker and he will bring the best out of you

[@KayfabeGames]

The two guys that Randy is referring to is probably The Viking Raiders.

[@aerosmith7217]

retribution?

[@williammccormick2802]

Wrestling is like ANY other job. You have to get along with your boss and show consistent improvement and work. You have to have a dynamic with your boss so they will work with you through your mistakes and they're more willing to teach you. Everyone feels weird in first conversations with new people. Vince McMahon is a dude like anyone else. You gotta get in there so he gets to know the performer you want to be and then he can write better for that performer.

[@funkadelicrailroad1714]

He's talking about Dio Madden and the other dude I can't remember his name I'm sure of it from retribution

[@phenompy]

Why him specifically tho?

[@funkadelicrailroad1714]

@@phenompy nothing specifically I just thought when Kurt said two guys who were getting TV time and then stop getting TV time the two guys that came to mind wer the two main guys from retribution which is Dio Madden and Dominic Dijakovic Dio Madden's look is money if you gave him something good I think he would be great, he's the only one I don't think looked absolutely ridiculous with the retribution mask and the long badass hair and I don't remember him being terrible on commentary when he did that for a while until Brock Lesnar destroyed him

[@felipefont4838]

Kurt is in this podcast as active as a chair. He does nothing but contribute his name.

[@MrCookN7]

He was letting randy speak...

[@kukunase1686]

tbf he was alllowing him to speak

[@kidgrim1902]

Well Randy is the guest so usually when you have a guest on your podcast you let them speak most the time….

[@LouieV6]

Maybe try watching a full episode instead of jumping to that conclusion based on a 6-minute clip?

[@splash8429]

While I agree with what Randy said, I think same thing should happen from the lther side as well. Vince should also try get himself closer to his roster

[@shrikrishna19993]

He has so much business to handle and especially at his age, I don't expect Vince to suddenly change and make consistent efforts to create a relationship with his talent.

[@Mati_diazb]

I completely agree with you, but Vince must be someone really really really but really busy. It wouldn't be surprising if the problem with that is basically that Vince doesn't have time to do it.

[@splash8429]

I don't mean like Vince going to wrestlers locker room to say hi or calling them once a week to say hi type of relationship. I have seen many people's interview and a lot of them bring up the story of how they take an idea to Vince and try to talk to him but he always responds in such a weird way (good or bad). Maybe he just should be a little straight forward and casual so any conversation doesn't seem awkward

[@botchjones1130]

Perked up Kurt that guy is like a stone, doesn’t move or blink

[@mgawsmestevan23]

Sammy Guevara literally did this twice, the first time Road Dogg was the one who answered the door and the second time he did it HHH and Vince were both in there. He just wanted to introduce himself, he didn't hear anything for a few weeks. But Vince invited him back for a WWE tryout, so it kind of worked. Only he didn't like the vibe at Tryout.

[@pinkdiablo4448]

This Locker Room Orton guy is a strange fellow. I kind of like him.

[@bagelfart8985]

I agree.

[@mikgawaran1313]

totoly agree with randy... see and be seen! show your presence... same thing in a corporate world!

[@ghostspectre1861]

The fact that they have writers in the room is the fucking problem. From bell to bell, when mostly everything was improvised (minus a few bullet points), was the greatest time to be a wrestling fan.

[@Bigelite094]

What did he say about Bruce Prichard?

[@randomnerd3402]

I wish I could tell ya

[@jimkays1]

Something they didn't want us to hear 😕

[@smoogles.5534]

bet he's talking about TBAR and MACE

[@dend1]

He's probably talking about Cedric Alexander and Sheldon Benjamin

[@TheLionheartSM]

Shelton is just as much of a vet as Randy, i doubt it

[@Thelight46]

Great advice 💪💪

[@TheLastRamen]

Thanos in the background!! lol

[@spongedudeZ]

That's great advise for anyone, not just those in the pro wrestling business.

[@TF-Prime72]

is that thanos statue behind randy

[@virgo4200]

I Think the problem with young talent is there to busy stuck up there own asses with social media,instagram and shit like that to even start a relationship with vince

[@Trollbane96]

And they're too busy trying to get a 5 star rating from Meltzer lol. They're too busy trying to "Get my shit in" during their matches and don't care about developing mic skill or character. These modern wrestlers and much of the remaining fanbase tend to ignore this. They think just as long as they are "Good in the ring" that makes them a good wrestler.

[@dantegaines124]

Keith Lee and karrion kross

[@baileyryan96]

I mean he's right. Vince is more of a personal booker. He likes having a relationship with his talent. If you have a relationship with him he's gonna push you to the moon. That's why I believe people like ec3, kieth Lee, hell even dom (t-bar) aren't/ weren't doing so good on the main roster. You can't be a wallflower towards vince. I know a lot of people don't like that vince took over nxt but like if he shows up to a show these nxt guys can finally grow that relationship quicker then growing that relationship then finally growing it 3 years in. It's why I believe priest and riddle are doing good on the main roster. They are growing that relationship with vince.

[@seanyshepfit]

"Johnny is a guy you either love him or hate him." Cornette certainly follows the latter 😂

[@HOUSEMDSB7]

that is great advice for people in general

[@michaelrodriguez-qv9sh]

I love watching these

[@JR-he6fn]

Seems like Vince thinks getting to know him and giving him ideas is being a problem and hard to work with. So why would anyone even try to when he only pushes Orton, Flair, and anyone related to The Rock

[@isaiahjones7492]

I wonder what wasn't aired about Bruce pichard lol

[@scorpa106]

How is it not enough time to feature other superstars? They repeat the same matches each week

[@davidstevens9245]

If change is really going to happen in 2022 for the wrestling business then that's going to be great for me to have better writers in the business. Then I have been waiting for the last decade for something good to happen because nothing really has been enticing me to watch wrestling. It's been the same kind of content for the last 10 years

[@vikinghammer87]

I hate to say it but Kurt IS NOT cut out to be a podcast host. No no no. You can see why Conrad is there to hold his hand. Kurt is one of the goats but this isn’t it

[@tiphotisted]

2:20 - 2:26 HAHAHAHAHAHA. Well vinny o mac is though. Triple haitch likely was doing some of that too.

[@Richnba1990]

Hes definitely talking about Keith Lee

[@manl15_89]

why do i feel like hes talking about the street profits

[@tyrelbass]

well according to interviews from past superstars that did develop a relationship with Vince. they said the were meant with nothing but broken promises after long conversations

[@Chief24.7]

It helps when your dads cowboy Bob Orton

[@lukem8420]

cmon..I need to know that Bruce pritchard story

[@richard6200]

when he said couple of guys, i guess they're a tag team and the only guys that comes to my mind are the street profits

[@aerosmith7217]

they r on sd tho, i think they are retribution

[@fredrickadebayo2434]

Dropping Gems

[@botchjones1130]

I wish I could have a relationship with Mr. McMahon 👉🏻👈🏻🥺

[@ShubhamMishrabro]

.......

[@whatsthisaboveme6064]

Honestly if I was a fresh wrestlers I would've visited him very often. Act like he's a 2nd father to me and ask him for stories about his life

[@slashandbones13]

I love Randy Orton but how was he "that guy"?

[@RiruKrypto_]

When he started WWE, he wasn't really doing much before Evolution.

[@tommyettinger1353]

@@RiruKrypto_ well to be fair he was injured before Evolution they had him doing those RNN update promos so he was already transitioning into a cocky heel the groundwork was laid down and they were still looking for that final piece which ended up being Batista but during the Triple H/Kevin Nash feud Orton was already sort of their Protegee it wasn't until the Goldberg feud that the stable was finalized, in fact they almost went with Mark Jindrak but Triple H couldn't stand him

[@davidberko9379]

Keith Lee has to be one of the people he's talking about, he just vanished

[@richard6200]

he's injured soo nahh

[@SumitSharmaHOTT]

maybe andrade and black

[@Rocky-w5r]

Adrande def

[@trashcleaner]

Keith who? I forgot about him.

[@_Wade_]

Randal keith randal randal keith

[@_Wade_]

Yea i liked my own comment whatcha gonna do brother.?

[@djmeduna2009]

Wow

[@Thatlayzeeone]

Conrad doesn’t even know what the fuck is going on. He can’t relate to anything Randy’s talking about, Conrad just sits there and marks out 💯

[@latinoizanami]

Alright noted

[@MTSpade]

cuz they get screwed otherwise, actually dont think it matters he will anyway, look at wyatt

[@rondoughhowell6442]

Well some modern day are only there to work and try to avoid Vince as possible especially burying talent

[@knowheregamerschronicles1]

I don't think the suits are trying to bury some one,they just aren't good at their jobs,I mean WWE wants a tiktok guy to ring announce.

[@Meracog]

I'd also imagine doing so would also make for better pay too.

[@sangan3202]

havent wrestlers said they wait HOURS just to even talk with their boss? lol i dont think many even get the chance to talk to him

[@aerosmith7217]

he just said you have to stay in sight

[@georgemunro9640]

You know what I've actually been told the same thing about where I work that I need to talk to the bosses and managers and build a bit of a relationship with the managers which I don't agree with. why? all Im interested in is showing up doing m my work getting paid and going home of course you I'd talk with a lot of the other workers but if they wanna talk to me they can come talk to me I have no reason to wanna talk and be buddy buddy with the bosses just because they're the bosses fuck that I'm there strictly for business I don't need a deep personal connection with them I'm there for my bank account

[@sephron17]

no disrespect at all to Randy because he's a legend but that shouldn't have to be the case. That's such an old-school thing to do where u basically gotta market yourself to Vince. What's the point to get signed to the company if Vince can't figure out what to do with you. Your body of work should speak for yourself, yes u should always have a great relationship with your boss is important but they should know the abilities of the talent they sign.

[@georgemunro9640]

Randy Orton makes a lot of sense but like you said business is business weather you like the guy or dislike him your personal opinion on a person is your personal opinion. Business and Personal don't go together Personal opinions should be irrelevant in a Business setting because letting a personal opinion influence a business decision it doesn't end well you can love someone to death but if they're the absolute shits at the job are you gonna put him in charge of running an entire area now the other guy you may think he's the biggest cunt on the planet but if he's the best one you put him in charge of running the area

[@zackmorris334]

Keith Lee I betcha

[@blamegamemaster551]

Randy always been in the incrowd so this is if Vince and most of the top people like yah ofcourse it's cuzz ya have a relationship ship wit them Randy is one of HHH buddy's and stephanie so ain't I trying 2 her all that peek ya head in the door shit

[@castle_novelist]

"It took me 2 decades." Yeah. When you botch and went off script and not suffer any consequence then you know you made it in WWE

[@bl00dkillz]

When you can say almost whatever you want cause you know they ain't getting rid of you

[@ShikiDuh]

is the Pat McAfee show but it's Kurt's....OH ITS TRUE ITS DAMN TRURE

[@gregtheodis7472]

T Bar and the other fella..?

[@abh1jeet708]

He is basically saying to you should kiss vince's ass

[@orphenkirylancello6315]

Vince should be retired already. He's gotta pass over the company to stephanie, shane or triple H for a better future.

[@xjoellmarkellx]

Strowman had a relationship...look what happened to him...

[@mijaroprime9509]

No he didn't. And strowman sucked

[@joshsilva4953]

Yo is Randy a TOOL fan of so that’s awesome

[@djhedden8770]

I really wanna know what he said about Brice Prichard lol

[@mistermahn1977]

great job sitting there nodding, connie

[@botchjones1130]

Haha this aged well

[@DocYAYAYA]

Wrestling is just too watered down now... 2021 you cant say and do the same shit without protests and companies dropping you

[@DickyCox]

develop a relationship with the wrestling business not the reality show that is wwe, develop a relationship with anyone not named vince mcmahon and you'll do fine in wrestling instead of acting like a wrestler which wwe prefers.

[@OMGWhoAreYou3773]

There’s no “true” wrestling business. Everyone’s acting. WWE, AEW, ROH, Impact. All these are scripted wrestling shows. TF you talkin’ about.

[@jmd11185]

Kurt, your tan is ridiculous lol

[@ZxFuZeXz1]

My boys kurts bronze ,but his medal is 🥇

[@RunDaChansey]

If Vince knows what to do with you then yes.. if Vince can't figure you out then you're screwed. And it's not like you suck necessarily if Vince can't figure you out, plenty of examples show otherwise

[@brianthomas3451]

If you want to get a push, the young guys need a relationship with pat Patterson.

[@AtifB18]

Pat Patterson has been dead for 7 months...

[@tomtaylor1178]

lol that was a ill informed comment

[@jonathancoleman9266]

You know he dead right?

[@orldn_gtf]

So they need to die?

[@asiatic999]

Lmao I think this joke went over everyone’s head

[@manuellemus8691]

Sounds like every other job