Range Rover NIGHTMARE: The Worst?!

[@MarshalRaelynn]

Range rovers are the prettiest cars in the junkyard.

[@mrpanama1977]

100% Facts

[@VenturiLife]

lol

[@issavibez394]

British just cant make good cars im sorry. Also ford used to own rover back in the days Modern junkk cars these days id rather drive a 2012 land cruiser and have no issues

[@jimbovb2130]

Love that statement. Sums up Rangies

[@daewooparts]

Draguar Jaguar, hold my Bud Light 🍺

[@keikokenziesirasta7086]

In Australia, we have a saying. If you want to get to the outback, get a Land Rover. If you want to come back, get a Toyota.

[@kentaningu6572]

😂😂😂😂

[@Reptilianoverlord-jc8mt]

but the new Toyotas are also rubbish. Engine failures on the new landcruisers

[@michaellegg9381]

Exactly what us Tasmanians say 2 😂

[@SkinPeeleR]

​@@Reptilianoverlord-jc8mt A rubbish Toyota is stil better then a new Range rover.

[@antoncarmoducchi6057]

I'm Australian, i drive a LandCruiser. I don't stop for broken down Nissan's or Rangerovers. I never get home if I did.

[@ryancrumley8616]

Range Rovers explore the depths of your wallet

[@Baard2000]

With 4wd ......they can crawl really DEEP in your wallet....

[@CHRnorton]

And their resale value sinks faster than the Titanic. After a few years the money you lose in value alone, means you could have brought a Toyota and after 5 years A Camry would sell for more than the Range Rover.

[@SmittySmithsonite]

The WALLET Rover, LOL!! 🤣

[@ValveCoverGasket]

The irony of this not being a Land Rover problem...😂

[@nihonkokusai]

​@@CHRnorton a land cruiser is more reliable than this

[@robertremkes5588]

The most comfortable seat you'll ever sit in while you're waiting for a tow truck.

[@nicholaswicks3077]

This issue affects most diesel cars not just Range Rover 🤦‍♀️

[@Bort11]

😂😂😂guy also bought it used. Those cars ment for the rich to buy it new and pass it off to the sucker before it gets a decent amount of miles

[@emoryzakin2576]

As a burnt out retired LR tech I can't express enough how happy I am to have gotten out before the diesels came ! God bless yall and happy new year!

[@Spartansrule118]

If you had to pick one, which year and model would you pick?

[@emoryzakin2576]

@ if I could have any rover and do anything with it with zero limits? Honestly, last year disco 2 with the driveline and every single wire/computer removed. I'm a ford/import guy but 100% go LS/4L80 with aftermarket body control and custom harness slightly lifted with slightly over sized tires. More room and comfort than a defender yet more off road ish than full size or sport. Any rover stock, 5.0 full size I still have a love and appreciation for them but like all European autos if they're not leaking oil/coolant or have any electric problems it means they are completely dead

[@SmittySmithsonite]

@@Spartansrule118 I picked a '93 W250 with a 5-speed and a Cummins. 😁

[@johncbr650re]

What's wrong with them ? Ist the company ask the engineers to make cars that fail to keep it in shop longer to charge more ? Or ist engineering philosophy that's just made cars to fail ? You can't compare LR to japanese suvs

[@fteoOpty64]

It seems that only Isuzu knows how to make real reliable diesel engines!. 😅

[@joskd8491]

in general, diesel engines are way too complicated these days, due to all the environmental demands. In the old days they were superreliable and cheap to run.

[@gkarapeev]

Yeah I was thinking the same. Diesel engines are more reliable than petrol, but only the old and dirty ones. If you have to make it as clean as a petrol engine, you have to make very brittle systems that are inherently unreliable.

[@hamishfullerton7309]

I think there not worth the hassle seem very complex and touchy,for a bit of torque and little better fuel economy ,unless on big commercial truck marine applications ect, I would stick with capable gas/petrol engines

[@kyletaylor6058]

This for sure stands out to me lately. Bought my first diesel in 2019 after starting my electrical contracting business and it is a 2014 6.7 cummins, a few months ago my neighbor gave me his old 1992 F450 with a non turbo 7.3 idi and I got that thing back up and running in a week replacing glow plugs fuel lines and everything but my Cummins took me a whole day just to remove and replace my whole egr and dpf system but at least it’s still going strong at 256k miles.

[@jimmiller5600]

Back when we had 4 billion people on the planet we could get away with being dirty. 50 years later with 8 billion we just can't fart out krap 24/7.

[@adogmcdizzle]

They are being regulated out of existence.

[@ncjsgrki]

Rule #1 of Range Rovers, do not buy a Range Rover

[@kwhite145]

Rule #2 see rule #1!

[@miguelvega7769]

Speak for yourself my 2010 doing just fine, 270k miles and still gojng, it’s called MAINTENANCE for a reason especially PREVENTIVE at that, folks wait until shit is about dead then complain

[@DaveBigDawg]

Or buy 2

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

​@@miguelvega7769That's BS, they're absolute junk.

[@rogerwhiting9310]

Ever

[@victorrosario4109]

Like how the guys ask each other questions for their opinion. I like how David explains everything to his customer's and I love the tools they have.

[@markeh1971]

Hi, I loved the cutter for the fuel filter. Side order of diesel with metal in please - Not! Take care M.

[@tesladiesel2420]

Not into diesels and definitely not into Range / Land Rovers but, I ended up watching g the entire video bc I loved the way you guys troubleshot this issue. Awesome job, guys!

[@offroadnut]

I had a friend that started at a Range Rover dealership right out of tech school and he used to tell me that they would have to push some of the brand new Rovers off the car carrier because they wouldn't start. Even with ZERO miles on them.

[@aluisious]

I work for a different British manufacturer, and I believe it. They'll ship anything that looks like it might work, let the people in the field figure it out.

[@hellswindstaff91]

Lolol I remember doing the same in early 2000s when I was a tech for Acura. Trans failures on brand new cars right off the carrier into the shop

[@Edz2023]

You have to admire both the buyers and the manufacturer. The brand consistently ranks in last in quality and reliability, but there have been good amount of people paying top $$$ to buy them

[@annyer262]

The best part of the Land Rover are the Connolly Leather Seats for waiting for a town truck!

[@keepgrindingup7661]

Rear window defrosters all come standard on Range Rover. So when it breaks down in the winter, Your hands don't get cold pushing it down the roadway.

[@annyer262]

@keepgrindingup7661 and remember the Lucas electrics. In Lucas electrics the wires are full of smoke which conducts the electricity. When the smoke gets out your car does not run any more!

[@samspace81]

wouldn't know but I do love my Connolly leather, massage seats, 3 feet of wading ability, etc I haven't been stranded in my Rover

[@duancoviero9759]

😂😂😂😂

[@mrpanama1977]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@alp3781]

A good bud of mine, wealthy guy, bought a new one, Sport. Absolutely beautiful ride. I think, they are the most comfortable SUV on the planet. One year later, nothing but electrical issues. I mean, more running to the dealer than enjoying it. Sold it after 18 months and will NEVER OWN ONE! You can’t even bring up the name Range Rover.

[@normanjulian5537]

I'm not saying that Rover don't have issues, but a good portion of problems with them and other brands is lack of maintenance.

[@alp3781]

@@normanjulian5537 That is a whole different bible, we are talking about. That is with any car/truck.

[@roaddog7542]

18g for a fuel system issue.....😳 No more making fun of Chevettes, Pintos, Vegas, yada yada. Today's rides are worse than ever.

[@donaldnye2890]

LOL Pintos and Vegas were really good cars; the big problem was a cheap car never receives routine maintenance.

[@ozzierabbit587]

@@donaldnye2890 This is the first time I've ever heard someone claim "Pintos and Vegas were really good cars".

[@coloradomountainman8659]

@@donaldnye2890 Sure. The Pinto's would explode and catch fire in a slow rear end collision. The Vega had a sand casted engine that would break apart and destroy the engine. Yup, really good cars.

[@Richey24]

Most of the time labor is like 2/3 the cost of anything

[@Heist1000]

@@coloradomountainman8659 The chance that your engine would fail or being involved in a forceful enough rear-end collision that would set the tank on fire is some number less than N%. Neither would cost $18K to repair / replace even when inflation adjusted. The chance that your CP4 is constantly trying to and will eventually shit the bed is almost 100% , and when it does - your car is becomes an immediate mechanical salvage job and will not be covered by insurance or even a factory recall. I think that was his point.

[@lawotschkin]

75% of Land Rovers sold are still on the road !! The other 25% made it home safely.

[@rapalaron6348]

Range Rovers have always been a nightmare.

[@terrygarvin1392]

Not the very early models, they were reliable as mules and simply workhorses. When the yups started loving them they tried to make them nice and complicated them to the point of no repair.

[@terrygarvin1392]

😊

[@rapalaron6348]

@@terrygarvin1392 Agree buddy but my HZJ78 with 1HZ engine is unbeatable.

[@Nick210]

Which ones have you owned? Or are you just regurgitating what you’ve seen on the internet

[@scdevon]

It boggles the mind how they sell any new vehicles at all with the poor reputation they have. I get it that most are probably new leases, but still...... I'd add Mercedes Benz, VW and maybe BMW to that too.

[@TreatsOnTheStreets]

One thing I have learned watching Dave is stay away from anything with a cp4 pump. Even the most reliable engines get toasted by em.

[@destinhook3826]

They’re not bad, they’re just not made for American fuel. With a libricity additive, they typically do alright.

[@TreatsOnTheStreets]

@destinhook3826 problem is most people that buy diesels don't use additives.

[@GuretoSefirosu]

I am at 206,000mi on a CP4 in a 2017 F-250. Going to upgrade to a DCR though.

[@victorrosario4109]

For real! lol

[@yafois988]

there are fuel additives with proper lube to help keep them alive. long long time.

[@harryash11]

love this episode, sucks for the customer but this is what made you guys want us to watch you. Clean video, great content and no dramatic music. Keep it up!

[@williamkerwin9543]

Neighbor bought used Rover for daughter. Seller was actually honest and told them he was spending 3-4 grand year for last 3 years on fixing it.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

..is she being punished?

[@tunatuna6723]

And they still decided to buy?

[@Mr_Bones.]

This is very smart. Teenage daughter says she wants a car to go out with boyfriend? Buy her a car that doesn’t work and keep her home and safe 😂 I’m gonna buy my kids Rovers and Fiats

[@LawrenceMacMacster]

To have a decent Land Rover ownership experience you need to lease it. *My heart to the owner, he doesn't sound clueless. At least there's that.

[@train1962]

The EPA has ruined diesel engines.

[@brianjones1151]

100% !!

[@bigdaddymak1439]

A refinery engineer once said the EPA makes us take everything good out of fuel and replace it with junk chemicals

[@macbook802]

The government and manufacturers are on the hook as well. Apparently they've done the homework and it makes less pollution to produce 3 trucks to do the same thing 1 truck used to be able to do

[@akzoc]

Freedom isn’t free

[@Syncopia]

It's all about the illusion of being clean. EPA and politicians actually couldn't give a damn about what the peasants do.

[@guydurango3553]

Got burnt so bad on one of these,(older one)the damn fuel pump is controlled by an (extra) timing chain and camshaft located in the oil pan. Rotated the engine backwards less than 3deg when installing a fan clutch, tool slipped engine went backwards the tiniest bit. Guess what? That chain jumped and its impossible to replace without yanking the engine. No more land rovers.

[@timsbike4887]

The Landrover part is great. Its the Ford engine in it that is crap.

[@mvpjoshy9688]

This is a lie, this diesel engine is not timing chain it’s a belt

[@timsbike4887]

@@scdevon What timing chain??

[@steveknapp244]

If you see a Range Rover on the road, it’s either on the way to a mechanic or has just left one, or it’s stolen! 😂

[@ajuber876]

Or owned by one 😅

[@erikg.2666]

Moral of the story....Don't waste your money on one of these overpriced space occupiers!

[@alexvdubb]

It's a fuel pump issue specifically the cp4. You don't have to waste your money on this specific vehicle to experience the same issue

[@erikg.2666]

@@alexvdubb Range Rovers are still over priced JUNK any way you want to slice it!

[@Loveitdownunder]

Bit like Duramaxes 😂😂😂... Carry a spare crankshaft.

[@OldBismarck]

Yep, LR is total garbage. Worst cars ever. Full of poor quality parts.

[@nicholaswicks3077]

Buddy guess what your ram/ford/Chevy also has this issue. Your a 🤡 if you can’t afford a nice car just say so

[@S7K-s7k]

Если range rover проехал мимо авто мастерской, то у него проблемы с тормозами.😂😉 P.S. у нас в стране с ними тоже проблемы. По этому поводу много шуток про это.

[@Amarillobymorning777]

Dinos un chiste de esos 😊 Greetings from North Texas 🎉

[@ErnestoBoots]

Haha, nice.

[@S7K-s7k]

​@@Amarillobymorning777 все владельцы range rover знакомы друг с другом 😉

[@jevgeniardassov]

I know one. Land Rover exec stated 92% of all the Land Rovers are still on the road. That means 8% made it home… 😂😂😂❤

[@paul_iFomo]

If Range Rover doesn’t leak any oil, it means there is no more oil in it.

[@craig162]

The owner gets on the internet but he still bought a Range Rover. He deserves every headache he gets.

[@tomdick2044]

Correct , we all use the same internet.

[@03056932]

even ranking last in reliability you can still own several and have no problems. i mean they are perhaps 30% less reliable than a toyota going by the data. you lot have been led to think its 90

[@nv1493]

The crapfest that is today's "modern" vehicles is truly astounding. And sinking even further.

[@markeh1971]

It’s ok EV’s are on the way. I’m sure that will fix the world! Take care all

[@pdgoblue2518]

They came to the same conclusion as the companies that manufacture HVAC and major appliances. They have no incentive to make them well. They know you're not going to go without an air conditioner/refrigerator/car

[@issavibez394]

Today's cars are junkk

[@sounboy4498]

Sucks because the pump is in rear of the engine, even with the transmission removed its a pain to replace that pump.

[@paulpaulzadeh6172]

Toyota is under passenger site, very easy to change it

[@colinstickland3130]

No easy to do. Difference between Europeon grease monkeys and colonial across pond

[@PremiumFuelOnly]

I didnt even know Land/Range rover even made a diesel for USA. Not sure Id ever buy something like that, they can barely make a gas one.

[@haydenh6339]

It’s a ford engine similar to the V6 Powerstroke

[@PJ-Driven]

@@haydenh6339 it is the ford lion v6 engine, same one put in f150's

[@jasoneardley2202]

Right…. Hahaha…. Nowadays I think it’s all garbage with all the emissions regulations junk‼️

[@tinytattoomike7943]

@@jasoneardley2202🏆

[@kevinbarry71]

Basically the same engine Ford put in the F150 for a little while

[@simonmears1726]

When i see a range rover tears roll down my face not from Joy but knowing the owners are going too be home less sooner rather then later

[@jamesmartin-lb6br]

Makes me appreciate my Crown Victoria even more.

[@cockyhemi]

I had a ‘90 Grand Marquis. Best car I’ve ever owned.

[@Konastang18]

Bro. Crown Vics are nuke proof!!! What awesome vehicles. My friend has an 2011 Towne Car with 705k miles. Lots of Regular stuff replaced but never internal engine work. Keep driving that Crown Vic !

[@scdevon]

Crown Vic fuel pump - $100 bucks. Drop the tank and do it yourself in a couple of hours. Keep on trucking for 200,000 more miles. Range Rover fuel pump - Take out a second mortgage and wait a month on parts.

[@anthonymolina7416]

Can a 5.0 coyote fit in a crown Vic ?

[@hank1556]

​@anthonymolina7416 yes, people have done swaps 🤘🏻

[@burgundyexpress]

In the UK the Land Rover dealerships sometimes can't fix the problems!

[@1813boo]

Dave has some serious nozzle control with that starting fluid. Impressive. Also, I wonder how long it's going to be until the EPA gets sued because they removed all of the lubricants from diesel fuel...

[@aeroflopper]

did they really, that explains a lot

[@caryknapton7233]

So many negative Range Rover comments from those that are not engineers and do not listen to the commentry. This failure is down to the HP pump and fails on other brands other than JLR products. It happens regularly here in the UK, just recently diagnosed it on a diesel Mercedes here in the UK where the owner accidentally put gasoline in the tank . Killed the HP pump in a few miles. Wouldnt surpise me if this was the cause, its a common failure

[@keithbellair9508]

Well you still have to sort of blame range rover for using a crappy pump.. i mean why so they bother making diesels if they have these problems.. just stick with turbo gas motor.. they are beautiful vehicles but man they need to back it up with a simpler, more reliable power train.. thats why Toyota is number one now.. they got that way making low tech and more reliable.

[@SW-ok8qr]

No, they really are shit.

[@caryknapton7233]

@SW-ok8qr From someone who has not overlanded in Southern Africa using this engine on a single 6000 mile trip. Have owned JLR products since 1994 and never been left stranded. As with all vehicle brands they have their problems.

[@shinedownfly]

Modern LR’s are not reliable vehicles Period! I am not wrong. All you have to do is ask any reputable tech and they will say the same

[@markeh1971]

It’s like the 6 million dollar man them. ( Showing my age.) “We have the technology, we can rebuild him” Take care all M.

[@Travis141123]

Worked on a Kubota zero turn once, had metal in the hydraulics. Gear reduction case also served as fluid reservoir. Genius engineers put the filter on the return circuit. Bearing went bad in reduction case, flooded the pumps and motors with metal. $6500 later the $18k mower was fixed. Nearly a full week of labor to tear apart and clean every nook and cranny.

[@ngnmech]

The thing is most people don't understand how the hydrostat works on Z turn mowers. The charge pump gets oil from the reservoir which is pumped into the hydrostat main pump at about 60 psi. The main pump increases that pressure to around 2200 psi. What people don't understand is it is a closed loop of oil between the pump and the drive motor. So the only oil that gets filtered is the oil lost by the pump before being returned to the reservoir. So failure of the wheel motor will cause pump failure because it will keep recirculating between the pump and drive motor, or in your case another item fails that allows contamination of what should be clean oil.

[@Nudnik1]

That happens on most heavy equipment. Excavator pump fail fill machine with metal chips. Pump cost $25,000+ on larger machines plus takes days to flush chips out. Usually you can't get all of it and some gets in computer control hydraulic valves and motors etc . We test hydraulic fluid alot for metal iron Bronze etc. Most machines has return filters and suction screens in tank which don't stop fine chips .

[@kurtjammer9568]

Kubota used to make a solid unit..I was an apprentice in 1982 .everything was cast iron.hydrostats etc .now made in the US. Some products are throwaway aluminum hydros

[@Nudnik1]

@kurtjammer9568 still pretty good quality farm construction equipment. CAT uses Kubota engines in skid steer and mini excavators.

[@robertmaybeth3434]

Did you splice in another filter before the works or reposition the original one?

[@alangb2086]

What clever competent mechanics these guys are, a rarity these days 🏆

[@BigDan12]

That'll be $10000

[@hermanwilliams3092]

That's just for the pump not including labor 😂😅🤣

[@deancoleman8969]

Dave you have discovered the rare and seldom seen informed customer. Great video thank you.

[@garrettsc]

Easily one of my favorite thing about DAC is how other techs will come over and help or give suggestions on what to check and do ! True comradery

[@BuceriasJoe]

There a reason Range Rovers are the worst rated of all manufacturers!

[@jamesblond150]

What made this Rover fail was that Ford made their diesel engines.

[@BOMBON187]

Yet somehow they're still in business 🤷‍♂️

[@adamdixon2251]

Percieved quality​@@BOMBON187

[@goforbroke2]

They’re still in business because rich people keep leasing them brand new, and poor people keep buying them used.

[@Wild_west_84]

They are as popular as ever here in Ireland. Fools and their money are easily parted

[@Archnemesis92]

Did one when I was working at the dealer, replaced complete fuel system, bill was 26K, luckily customer had an extended warranty

[@GuretoSefirosu]

EGR, DPF, and CP4. The three things killing diesel engines. Would a DCR for an F-series work on these?

[@Peter-f4o4z]

It's not a big deal, just get an EGR blank plate and delete, as for the DPF it's not an issue if you run the correct engine oil and do highway driving

[@GuretoSefirosu]

@@Peter-f4o4z That actually de-tunes the engine somewhat. You have to have the EGR coded out also or you lose some oomph.

[@ox-cetane4887]

Hey Dave, the number one problem with ULSD is fuel oxidation and air contamination in the ULSD. It is the fuel oxidation and air contamination in the ULSD that is the primary causal mechanism for poor lubricity in the diesel fuel. Solubilized oxygen, dissolved, entrained and entrapped air in the ULSD/diesel fuel reduce the load bearing capacity of the fluid fuel itself. Hence poor diesel fuel lubricity

[@aaron___6014]

The number one problem is a lack of lubricity and second water contamination. Moisture accelerates oxidation.

[@ox-cetane4887]

@@aaron___6014 what is the causal mechanism in the ULSD for poor lubricity? Sulphur has no lubricating properties whatsoever

[@aaron___6014]

@ox-cetane4887 the causal mechanism that leads to poor lubricity is a lack of polar aromatics and organosulfur compounds.

[@ox-cetane4887]

@@aaron___6014 Aaron, did you know that Sulphur is an antioxidant? Do you know how antioxidants function? Did you know that refined diesel fuel has always had an oxidation problem, when the Air NAZI's at USEPA mandated ULSD in 2006, what do you think happened to the fuel? Are you a backyard chemist and mechanic? Maybe your one of these internet trolls that keeps being talked about.

[@apuwdm2]

Love your methodical approach to problem-solving. And you have a wonderful set of special function tools.

[@TR99FRC]

I had a buddy that had a 2016 Range Rover diesel and the crankshaft snapped in half while driving and it shut off.

[@Colinpark]

LR Times covers that Ford Lion Engine

[@andregerber2108]

That Diesel is from Peugeot Citroen

[@deepredstate4414]

@@Colinpark "Christian knows nothing about Toyota"---Vera :)

[@rxy2580]

Peugeot / Citroen. Not what you associate with quality

[@peter-pg5yc]

car just neede a rest.

[@williambaldwin9346]

Its so cool you have a full time Automovie repair shop and run this KZbin channel. It just sucks we are so far apart. I am in Upstate, NY. VERY close to Vermont.

[@scottelbadass]

I don't understand why they didn't start with doing a system scan ... It probably had fuel system codes and they could have watched the live data for fuel rail pressure... It's probably all for the video but it seems silly, why not gather as much data as possible before you actually tear into it?

[@astront917]

It will not earn them enough cash in labour charges A lot of garages are thieves

[@elora2525]

The way they did it is more accurate prognosis but I agree a live data will probably give a general idea it was cp4 pump and at least will need that and maybe sell them labor to remove the quality control valve to inspect for swarf

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

Sensors can lie, it's best to make sure you've got correct informations, but I would say it's a good reason to check. Remember, a code is a symptom, not a diagnosis.

[@JeffPower-dv3zl]

Great Mechanics thanks Fellas ❤🎉Happy New Year 😊

[@onlylikenerd]

Man, I love these Range Rovers. Primarily because you can find them with bad engines for so cheap! Once I get my home shop infrastructure ready, I plan on a buying a black Range Rover and throwing in an OM606 turbo diesel engine. Would be a sweet ride

[@louisredelinghuys2681]

Dave- there’s a HP pump belt at the rear of the left cylinder head. And that one IS supposed to be timed. On the older 2.7 TDV6’s it’s not timed, but the 3.0 are… I was. JLR SM for a number of years…

[@iansummers6945]

Spot on, also earlier disco 4 was body off to replace belt etc Later rangies had more crap you could pull off in place for better access. Them came the dreaded Ingenium series, god help us…

[@paulwhite1542]

My 2.7 tdv6 RRS needed a new Siemens HPFP after 320,000km and regular servicing at JLR, it is the solenoid inside that type of pump that fails, belt driven. Threw up codes and live data when cranking, no start. Couldn’t fault JLR repair cost AUD$3800 still have the car with 400,000km. Wouldn’t buy the newer diesels if that’s progress. No DPF, no Euro 6 emissions to deal with. No crank issues as I use 5w40 oil must have a good one. Had it 14 years.

[@allan4854]

From past experience US fuels are slightly less refined with less additives but as always (service time are so important )

[@dhooter]

More refined. They had to build entire new process units to strip the sulfur out. Europe uses a higher cetane diesel

[@kennethprocak5176]

@@dhooteroverseas it’s been low sulphur since 2002. And adblue in new heavy prime movers 2007, and in vehicals and 4x4 since 2010. That’s why US rubbish fuel destroys Euro gasoline and diesel engines. Australia has crap fuel as well. But diesel has been low sulphur since 2004.

[@RekkGaming]

i love how you guys all work together, It makes me want to find a new job, One where the people all care for one another its inspiring

[@vbar66l93]

On a diesel truck with 140,000 miles, should I replace the cp4 pump now? Before it causes me issues. I’m just now learning about this cp4 issues.

[@crossfirex4582]

Yes

[@123donmaster]

Use arch oil fuel additive, change your filters regularly and don't run your tank below a 1/4. The cp4 last long time if maintaining it properly

[@benjaminerrico6760]

Seems like asap is best because Dave makes it sound like it’s gonna blow up any minute. The dude on the phone got the truck when it was running. Now it won’t run even though the dude threw additives at it.

[@Sixpointtwoliter]

Either that or install a disaster kit to catch the shrapnel when it goes

[@candd1280]

I thank God everyday for my old BMC Leyland 25.2 in my sailboat. Parts are hard if not impossible to find but it's been reliable if I continue to take care of it.

[@milieu675]

I've been a mechanic for 32 years and there are certain vehicles I simply refuse to work on. These are among them. Most Euro crap is actually. If everyone would just wise up and quit buying these junk boxes they would go away.

[@slickrick343]

This is why I'll happily work on this sort of thing and charge a decent wedge of money to do it

[@elora2525]

As a BMW technician I think the crap are American vehicles and hate working on them

[@milieu675]

@@elora2525 I. don't. Care.

[@colinstickland3130]

​@@elora2525agreed. It's because they only have mechanics mates and not mechanics

[@timsbike4887]

Who made the engine in this?? Blame FORD!!!

[@johnnielsen5076]

Stupid High pressure pumps to save miniscule amounts of fuel over port injection, (and carbs for that matter) just to meet EPA mandates! Plus your intake tract doesn't wash either nice! Vehicle reliability and reasonable maintenance cost is now the last consideration in new vehicle design for sure.

[@chrispy104k]

I don't think I have ever seen a port injection diesel but yes, gas engines used to until more recently. I understand that direct injection on gas engines results in greater fuel economy but the deposits in the intake ports and back of the valves is a right pain. It can be mitigated by using products that dissolve those deposits each time the vehicle is serviced. Subaru provide an upper cylinder/intake cleaner you spray into the intake manifold at each service. "SA459 is the only upper engine cleaning product that has been tested and approved by the factory to be used in Subaru vehicles." Works well.

[@petesmitt]

@@chrispy104k The OP mentioning carbs clearly indicates he is not referring to diesel engines..

[@aeroflopper]

fuel pressure is how engines make more power with smaller displacement, it get raised now and again by government,

[@macbook802]

They don't save any fuel, the 7.3 was way more efficient than a 6.7. They create more power and a more thorough burn. The problem is the people buying the trucks aren't using them like trucks, they're using them like a girl uses a Honda. Theres no reason a pickup truck needs over 1000 ft lbs of torque. The same class trucks had less than half of this power 20 years ago and they always worked. Now all of these new truck guys are ripping campers in half costing the entire rv industry millions because they have more horsepower than qualification to use it

[@Baard2000]

Hence some oems are using 2 injectors. 1 direct. 1 in port. 7 injections in cylinder ....than 1 in port so it stays clean

[@sthr2110]

This story reminds me of my 1999 GMC Suburban 1500 4WD, except that it cost $1200 to buy 7 years ago, hardly ever breaks and costs almost nothing to repair, when it does.

[@fastfingers1957]

I always wonder why people choose so unwisely when the info on bad vehicles is so easy to research, and the older reliable makes / models that have historically good reputations aren't even considered. I guess the idea of having a shiny new high end car/ truck is all they can imagine owning.

[@samspace81]

@@fastfingers1957 I've had plenty of 90s beaters, I work my a&* off doing what I love and I drive what I want to drive now and I pay the cost to do so.

[@TerdisLesezchuan]

$18,000? I bought my 2013 Ford Explorer Limited for that in 2017 used with 36,000 miles on it. Today it had 138,000 miles and has never required an expensive repair. Buy good quality not some fancy name with crazy expensive components... $18,000?!

[@mnshp7548]

exactly what i thought, just spend like 15k on a second hand suv with lowish miles and regularly maintained, look after it and buy something that has parts at every junkers so a used fuel system would only be a couple hundred $, not 18k

[@alanparks3402]

lmao ford / quality... pick one, but not two

[@samjohnson4014]

What a cool customer

[@hellswindstaff91]

I had a colleague a fellow technician give me a range rover and i refused bought a suburban instead. Another tech bought it and the motor started eating coolant. Swapped in a Toyota 1UZ V8 and she runs like a champ 😂

[@joejoe2974]

We have the same problem in Europe on VW models equipped with high pressure fuel pumps, the fuel quality and lubricity are not the same as in Germany where these engines last a lot longer than in Belgium. It's always around 200 000 km (120k miles). Sad to see possibly good engines/cars sold for parts over a HP pump

[@aeroflopper]

I tried telling them that a few years ago, it's about fuel quality, they called me an idiot.

[@tommorse4434]

Same thing happened to our Audi A3 diesel. Fortunately, under warranty or that would have been somewhere around 8K to 10K. From internet research it is a common problem and also linked to lubricity, or lack of, in american diesel.

[@vascoribeiro69]

Greetings from Portugal, I always use diesel premium for my A Class Mercedes and do the dealer's service, while avoiding short trips. So many things that could go wrong, DPF, EGR, Adblue, injectors fuel pump...

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

My guy, if you're paying for premium, why not just drive a petrol and get regular fuel? Whatever you save with a diesel you lose on the fuel price. It's insane!

[@vascoribeiro69]

@SoulTouchMusic93 I do long distances and at 65mpg is unbeatable. Gas is 10cents/liter more expansive. Gas or hybrid is much better for short trips.

[@waiting4aliens]

Diesel and the costs associated with it no longer makes sense for most of us. Good video, thank you.

[@jecht7333]

I live for in the uk and worked at jlr for five years , i never seen these pumps fail ? Crank snaps all day lol really good video

[@TreatsOnTheStreets]

@@jecht7333 that's because your diesel fuel is better quality and lubricates the pumps better than what we have in the US

[@AndyK.1]

Not heard of that issue in the UK either.

[@BadMuflon]

No issues in Europe with cp4 pumps because the fuel is better for modern diesel engines

[@aeroflopper]

I tried telling them it's all about the fuel quality. they said I was an idiot.

[@lawncare-4u849]

​@@TreatsOnTheStreetswhy do jlr sell diesel there then and why do people buy them. I only use shell diesel here in the UK for all my diesel trucks.

[@JavierCR25]

This channel, Car Care Nut and The Wizard… it’s a car guy’s gold mine. The level of professionalism is unreal.

[@_r.a.z.e.r_]

Garage 54 too bro Go and check it out

[@_r.a.z.e.r_]

Engineering explained too

[@johnevans1969]

I would like to have a vintage Range Rover from Marlin Perkins that roamed the plains of Africa on Mutual of Omahas Wild Kingdom 😜 . Just received my awesome Daves Auto Center Olight! Love the little buddy! And the awesome shirts and hats and sticker! Now when can I pick up my new jeep? 🤔 Happy New Year Everybody 🎉

[@keithgale2596]

This is thorough and comprehensive diagnostics - well done for the skill and knowledge in finding the issue. Have a good 2025 and best wishes from the UK

[@rckrckrckrck]

Those Ford Lion diesels are a lot of trouble. He’s “lucky” as they usually eat their own crankshaft.

[@aeroflopper]

yep seen a few snap the crank, tow vehicles mainly

[@vernacular1483]

The 3.0L ‘power stroke” that saw limited install in 2018-2021 F-150s has a specially forged crank for this very reason.

[@Truffle-Hearts]

Two are the best days of Range Rover costumer: the day they buy it and the day they sell it!

[@Nudnik1]

The old Land Rover with Buick 215 1990s were not to bad. These new Range Rover are the worst POS next to Audi. They make a downstream filter out of CP4 for Cummins. Not sure if can be put on this . Should be illegal to sell them . We had one recently 2018 went to crusher since the dealer nor any mechanic tech could get it to clear codes and run . 138 DtCs . Half of this POS are made in India and use Ford parts ( the only decent thing about them ). We fixed all these Eurotrash cars in NYC . Disaster $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Our old rollback Chevy got worn out towing Audi BMW Benz and Rovers out of warranty. Made a fortune

[@georgeburns7251]

Too funny

[@Nudnik1]

@georgeburns7251 until you get the bill...

[@SoulTouchMusic93]

The ford parts are absolutely not the decent thing about them. My first car was a jaguar x type, which is a ford mondeo underneath. I think it's sold as ford contour in America. It took £2k a year just to get it to pass the inspection. It would break every 4 months. After 3 years I gave it to the scrapper. Loved the car, wouldn't have another one if it was free!

[@Nudnik1]

@SoulTouchMusic93 ok

[@interestedparty7428]

Great learning from an experienced engineer, thanks!

[@robertandrews6555]

Every time i watch one of these vids it reminds me why i never bought a Range Rover ......being in the UK i got close but just couldn't bring myself to do it......... I bought a V6 petrol Cayenne instead..... Had it 6 years and it NEVER missed a beat, fantastic vehicle

[@frankowot4]

I was in my local garage with a car salesman when a range Rover pulled up outside. Mmmmh he said, I love the smell of depreciation in the morning!

[@itchy-scratchy]

Oh that's why I just drive pre 90s Chevy's and LS swap with 2003 and 2007 6.0 and 6.2. trouble free driving.

[@andreaphillian3947]

I have a 2013 Ranger Rover Evoque, the most reliable car I’ve ever owned, 300k miles on it, oil change, coolant, fuel system cleaner & intake valve cleaning every year. Never seen a mechanic shop.

[@tdotw77]

4:27 That looks to be an Insane Diesel oil bypass system and not so much a 'catch can' exactly. This is pulling 10% of the oil out at 1-2 gpm and sending through very tight micron oil filter down to 1 micron filtering to improve the oils life by cleaning it, extend life cycle of it and engine in return! Oil catch can is totally different product used to clean out the oil vapors coming out of crankcase usually before sending back into the turbo coating ut with dirty oil causing issues.

[@tdotw77]

Nice super duty straight axle swapped 4x4 E series van right there on the lift! Nothing like a 4wd van with the 7.3 or 6.0 in it. There was a green one around me in Buffalo that had a Boss V blade plow on it for snowplowing. Pretty sweet setup even though I'm a Diesel Super duty truck guy I like the conversion 4wd vans with a diesel, it'd sure be nice for going off-road camping!

[@tdotw77]

Nice super duty straight axle swapped 4x4 E series van right there on the lift! Nothing like a 4wd van with the 7.3 or 6.0 in it. There was a green one around me in Buffalo that had a Boss V blade plow on it for snowplowing. Pretty sweet setup even though I'm a Diesel Super duty truck guy I like the conversion 4wd vans with a diesel, it'd sure be nice for going off-road camping!

[@z94720]

Always good, clean presentation!

[@eyezb4645]

That’s not an oil catch can 😂😂 that’s an insane diesel bypass filter, it says it right on the housing.

[@ox-cetane4887]

that speaks volumes

[@CHRISCRAZZ-t7w]

It’s funny people in Canada and United States has complained that sometimes there’s not diesel or gas stations! The crazy thing is they want electrification by what year 2030 and I see one electrical station is 120 km 65 miles from my house what gives

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

BMW 335 twin turbo 3.0 6 bangers fuel pumps blew up and wrecked many engines a while back. Big recall.

[@davepaturno4290]

Their B58 is much better. That's what I have in my 2024 Supra - fantastic engine with single twin-scroll turbo.

[@paulcostello1807]

Pre lci or not. E46? E60? E61? Or something else

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

@ they were the current 6 cylinder. You can google them. If I was guessing I’d say S54.

[@gamerslust6533]

Bro, what garbage are you spreading? There is no bmw 335 that have recalls for fuel pumps exploding & causing engine failure. Please STFU. N54/N55!

[@johnleinen7167]

Most of the RANGEROVERS that come in my shop have had deferred maintenance because they thought they were indestructible, " OH I PAID BIG MONEY FOR THIS , why did it stop driving?"

[@user-gl9iz1bp1r]

Diesel engines and the high pressures generated on the fuel rail. Complexity is never a path towards reliability.

[@1tokeover]

Dave, please do a video on the American imported BMW M57 diesel engine with the CP3 Fuel pump specifically with the 335D. I noticed you're a diesel guy but I haven't seen any videos on the BMW M57 diesel engine which tells me that they're so good that they never fail. :)

[@rogerdarbyshire5664]

I know several guys who work at JLR's main plant. None of them drives a JLR product...

[@jowens3975]

Most "car guys" know that range rovers are literally the worst.

[@twt000]

Anyone ever heard a sage grouse? The sound sounded like one.

[@Labergemusic]

Hahahaha I had to search to hear it but you are 100% correct

[@theblackhand6485]

I would say ‘Just Mount some extra fuel filters before and after the critical parts so that these parts are secured. And then change the filters regularly.

[@luiscruz-no3ib]

I am a retired tech who did the work for over 50 years. I have seen only a few techs that can do a compression test using the hearing myself, including it is a dying breed

[@JeffPower-dv3zl]

Great Shop thanks Fellas 🎉😊

[@WycliffeCromwell]

That's a good engine. Should do 500,000 km with proper service. New front belt every 160,000 km Front covers come off in about an hour. New pump belt every 2 front belts. Change oil every 10 to 12,000 miles. Easier to drop engine to replace the h/p pump. Low pressure in tank pumps only make 4 to 6 psi on the early Gen 1 engines, not sure on these Gen 2s In reality, this isn't a Range Rover fault, it's either fuel quality fault or a pump manufacturing fault. In 30 years of Range Rover servicing I've never had to replace a high pressure pump on a v6 Land Rover TDi. That's most probably a fuel quality issue.

[@johndarby4503]

The only thing I question is the oil change interval. I should be 6.5k miles max between oil changes. The extended interval is just a con to make company accountants think the vehicle will be cheaper to run.

[@WycliffeCromwell]

@johndarby4503 I understand why you'd say that. The early Gen 1 2.7 and 3.0 could do 15 K km, which is I suppose 9 k miles. At that we see 400, 00 km plus. The later gen 3 factory dash computer gives 22 000 km, which is about 15k miles. You need to use the low saps oil but I'd agree that less often, say 8000 miles or 15 k kms works be better.

[@NRecob]

Dave, I wish you had an Auto Center in the East. Same for the Car Wizard.

[@u.e.u.e.]

The customer took it like a real man! 😉👍

[@victorrosario4109]

🤣

[@tomsurfing007]

maybe millionaire

[@williammcphail1413]

Awesome videos Dave!! Very informative 👍

[@ShockWaveGamings234fg321f]

Ive got multi landrovers and range rover with loads of kms and 0 problems. 2 got 400000km on original gear, its all about serving and preventative maintenance. The lion v6, this motor is reliable. But if u dont service it every 12000km it will not be happy and prematurely fail. Oil at :12000kms Belts at 160000kms I remove egrs with catch can. Put fuel system cleaner in ever couple tank's. Oil pump at 230000kms

[@arturgjoka-u4x]

Dave grate videos. In this particular one slightly a wrong start. … with diagnostics. This in my view, a scan tool can actually get all data information from low, hight fuel pressure. Normally here in the uk we start with codes that are stored on ECM😂. Even a DPF temperature sensor can shut the system down reporting wrong values and making the car think is catching fire 😂. Having the car running with Eazy start air mass sensor must be disconnect as ECU can’t see any air flow. There for now fuel to be provided. Grate engineers and technicians without a doubt in your admirable workshop.

[@MatejXXX]

I have 3 cars with this Engine. Works like charm but dont fuck around maintain IT ahead or you get rewarded. If previous owner didnt change the timing belt pulleys and oil pump. Then do it this is must have at this mileage. Change oil prematurely all the time.

[@exit9mastertec7]

Love this video because this what we all technicians go through buddy

[@foxlake6750]

There is a reason why Consumer Reports rates Land Rover the absolute worst for reliability and people pay big bucks for them.

[@bartsimpson8616]

its ''freest country citizens'' tax for stupidity,

[@wiliamkirkpatrick1532]

Yes but they have a "status symbol" parked in the driveway.

[@jasonpatterson2143]

@@bartsimpson8616 It's a British brand genius.

[@bartsimpson8616]

@@jasonpatterson2143 was ... in some different times , as Lotus , or MG , .. but they aint no more , genius . Now you produce handlamps or torch made in britain , for ''special forces'' (as you seen on tv) You doing great .

[@jamesg8868]

@@jasonpatterson2143it’s an Indian brand potato

[@theondebray]

Modern vehicle engines soooo complicated, everything packed in TIGHT, a nightmare to work on. I'm sticking to my OLD Ford for as long as I can.