Range Testing a CHINS Lithium Golf Cart Battery - PS Its Cheap!

[@parttime9070]

I have their 24 volt 150 amp battery, been running it 24/7 365 for two years in an off grid system . It's charged with a 1000 watt's of solar panels.. Full size refrigerator going all the time, washing machine or gas dryer when the sun is out all day.. It's modest with a 2000 watt inverter.. Best investment I've made in a battery..

[@BootstrapRevival]

I love all of this. What kind of panels are you using?

[@parttime9070]

4, Solarworld 250 watt.. it puts out about 23 amps in full sun.. at 30.7 volts..@@BootstrapRevival

[@qitstrn]

I considered a cheaper lithium battery like the Chins which is a great value until you have a issue and need it warrantied. These batteries are not well built. You could have zero issues and be lucky. I didn’t want to chance it myself

[@slabbusterrtr7690]

I bought a chins 20ah 12/23/22 to run my Livescope and head unit lasts 13 hours and I fish every weekend impressed so far little over a year old zero problems as of yet

[@BootstrapRevival]

We've abused this battery and it has been rock solid. I'm seriously considering swapping out the lead acid battery and the charge controller on my RV.

[@joepidgeon3365]

So I’ve decided I want to do this conversion. Can you put out a video that speaks more to everything that needs to be installed ?

[@russwilkerson2741]

Im just curious about the 10 years but time will tell. I just got 3- 12v newti lithium batteries and charged once when it got to 79 %. That was a week and a half later. This 2004 ez-go txt has NEVER gone this fast. Gps it on waze and was doin over 15 - 18 mph ! And shed 200 pounds !

[@dboucher26]

I recently bought a 2007 EZ-Go cart and everything on it looks brand new, the entire cart looks brand new, and zero rust. I got it from a shop and the lead acid batteries were manufactured in April 2024. I still want lithium, but it will be lightly used so I’ll wait to see if it worth upgrading now or is I should wait until the current batteries run their course.

[@BootstrapRevival]

I would rock the ones that are in there until they don't meet your needs!

[@amazing6240]

Lithium batteries are indeed worth investing in. Recently, I upgraded my 06 club car to Vatrer 48V lithium batteries, which use A-grade cells and are currently performing well. I no longer need to spend time maintaining the batteries.

[@BootstrapRevival]

I’ve been looking at their battery. I picked up a 48v project cart that needs repowering.

[@robertboozer2790]

I just installed this battery in a 02 ezgo txt. It will work fine but then the entire golf cart will lose power and come to a stop. If I let off the accelerator for a second the cart will start again.

[@phillpholbrookjr.7084]

Can u just change your charging port if u have different golf carts

[@MarkCoreyCopartAdventures]

Great video. My friend wants me to rebuild his cart. I'll definitely consider your recommendations regarding the battery usage. Thanks!

[@Chris-jg5vw]

Can i use my regular charger that came with the cart? Ready to buy battery. club car precedent 48volt. Thank you in advance

[@BootstrapRevival]

Hey sorry for the delayed response. You could, it would depend on the BMS in the battery to turn it off when it was done charging. If you are looking at a lithium battery, you should really look a pairing it with a lithium charger.

[@pickandstrum]

I put the same battery into my Ezgo txt and so far it is working great

[@joepidgeon3365]

I have a 1999 EZGO. I am looking to upgrade, mine is 36v. Can you recommend where you got the wires, bus bars, charger and battery modem and size.

[@AP-st1li]

Nice video. Subscribed. Looking forward to seeing more.

[@joepidgeon3365]

Can you put everything needed in the kit for a conversion in the comments please.

[@CartGuy]

We went with Allied Lithium works great after a year. Nice video.

[@BootstrapRevival]

I will have to check Allied out!

[@jonvaughn123]

So have you bought another Chins for a cart other than this one?

[@GlassAnvil]

did I see a Navitas controller? I am wondering how this battery would hold up with some hi performance mods

[@BootstrapRevival]

You did see a Navitas controller! Its just the stock replacement....although the thought of the inlaws doing wheelies and drag racing their friends sounds hilarious. You'd have to check the amperage rate of the mods you want and see if it matches the discharge rate (sometimes noted as the C rating.)

[@ralphhorrawitz5879]

Probably the forward reverse switch,it's rebuildable

[@lessbs]

Making the change over for me is worrisome. I live in ohio and store my cart over the winter months. There is someone who maintains the charging of everyones carts. I dont know what the colder temps will do as far as storage in the winter months in an unheated environment.

[@trn1962]

Installed one of these CHINS for the Mother-in-Law. Pretty good I must say, stock everything else. 2008 EZGO TXT-PDS. I didn't want her to need to open an app to monitor status and installed an LiTime Monitor with Shunt. I may not have ever known there was an issue had I not installed the add-on monitor but the REGEN is apparently not regenning.... the LiTime monitor records the REGEN amps going back to the battery (which is reporting 99% Remaining) but BMS is reporting 62% remaining (kinda what I expect without the regen). Haven't found a tweak to remove the regen calculation for the status in the monitor or on the battery to accept the regen charge. Any thoughts?

[@BootstrapRevival]

Oh man, I have no good insight. We swapped out our controller with the Navitas because the OEM was toast. I know the Navitas has a programmable regen setting, but I'm unsure if you can adjust the EZGO. How do you like the shunt? I'm thinking about putting one on my RV.

[@amhunter4518]

How is it holding up as of now and how long has it been?

[@BootstrapRevival]

It was September of 2023. It’s with the in-laws out of state and they love it. I’m hoping to do a follow up short video when we are up there after Christmas. 10/10 would get another one.

[@chuckb1448]

Nice video ty! I gotta ask, the charger you have a link for is not far from $500.00, that's a rather steep price for me. I'm a bit confused on converting to lithium: can I get a charger with that "D" shaped connection or do I need to remove the seat with each charge? Also, do I get a 36v charger or does a "smart charger " simply know what it's connected to? I'm sorry for asking so many questions lol

[@BootstrapRevival]

Great questions! I often see (and have bought) those chargers used on eBay. A the white tag has the model number on it. If you can find a 30600 it will charge 36 or 48 and do lead acid/AGM/Lithium profiles. These chargers (and others) have the option of using the D plug - but the charger would be off the cart. Think of mounting it to the wall in your garage then plugging the D cable in. I mounted mine onboard so I carry it wherever it goes. I converted it to us a standard extension cord in place of the D connector. I hope this helps. I'm thrift too. If you look around and get creative I'm sure you can save a few bucks!

[@slashdotjeo]

Is this battery just drop and go? All I'd have to is connect the positive and negative terminal and ride? I have a 48v system.

[@BootstrapRevival]

You would need a 48v, but yes they are pretty much drop and go. If you have 12v accessories like light, you will need a $20 step down converter.

[@DSDBOYZ]

I always worry about cheap lithium batteries and fires ???

[@whiskeywincher7582]

How exactly did the charger sent up to for your Lester’s charger. Mine runs into a low voltage fault. Not sure what to do?? Might have to go to a different charger

[@BootstrapRevival]

I used the generic lester lithium profile. I ignored the lester app and watched the BMS app to see it cut off in bound voltage and not over charge. It has not been an issue with the battery. I do know different lester models allow for different profiles (meaning some don't allow for lithium charging).

[@JeffersDIY]

Are the different profiles selectable through the charger app or do you have to order the charger profile specific? I just noticed the amazon adds do not say anything about the profiles. Thanks@@BootstrapRevival

[@BootstrapRevival]

I apologize for the delay. Correct, in the app for the charger you can set different battery profiles like lithium, lead acid, AGM, 36v, 48v. They even have a pile of profiles for the big player brands of batteries.

[@JeffersDIY]

Thanks for the reply! im working on restoring a 1995 club car ds and i am probably going to go with this same battery@@BootstrapRevival

[@petersimms4982]

🇨🇳a new name in Quality 😊😊😊

[@FatherOfTheParty]

Been thinking of doing this and adding an inverter so that my golf cart can be a mobile power station. I would like to build a small cabin near a pond on my property and this would be a great way to get tools and power up to the site without having to run a generator. Throw a couple of solar panels in the mix and, Bob's your uncle.

[@BootstrapRevival]

I completely agree. When we get a few acres I want to upfit a cart for farm work including mobile power. Almost like a portable generator but less of a main to more around!

[@Slingo28]

I have a 48 volt Yamaha golf cart that I put 4 12volt chins batteries in and a 60 volt 325 watt solar panel on and I haven’t had to charge it in 3 years. Just bought a 48 volt inverter to do the mobile power station too

[@glennr9913]

@@Slingo28 That's my plan. Why is everyone using these large single 48V batteries for converting carts? 4 12 volt batteries are a lot more affordable & fit into the cart easier. The solar panel is smart too.

[@joepidgeon3365]

Why the Lester summit charger ? I seen on Amazon the chins battery and charger combo for $950. What’s wrong with their charger ?

[@BootstrapRevival]

I'd love to get my hands on the Chins charger - it was not out when I got my battery. I think anew project cart may be in order!

[@joepidgeon3365]

@@BootstrapRevival, they had a sale the other day. I got a 36v 100amp with charger for $850 on Amazon. Keep an eye out as prime days are almost here

[@joepidgeon3365]

@@BootstrapRevival, they have the battery and charger on prime day for about $750.

[@BigSargesPlayRoom]

Hey, I bought the same battery and put it in a 2001 EZGO TXT series cart. The only accessories are a light kit and radio. But it does have 20” tires on it. The cart runs fine but the range is nowhere near what you’re getting. The best I’ve gotten is 27-28 miles with the battery reading 23% remaining. Thing is, I’m afraid to discharge it any farther as once it drops below 50% the voltage seems to drop off pretty quickly. And I’m not pushing it, my average speed is around 12 to 14 mph. That sounds like a lot but the bigger tires seem to give it more speed. Another 2-3 miles would be all it takes to run it out. Got any ideas why the mileage is so poor? I keep hearing guys talking about 40 - 50 mile ranges. I can’t figure it out.

[@BootstrapRevival]

Is the 01 a different cart? This has the switch on the dash for FNR. I'm not sure what year started using a shunt motor and stopped using resistors to dump energy.

[@wisdomspitter7688]

Checkout carts unlimited they have a conversion kit for that

[@jameschaplin8975]

Did u ever figure it out, I have the same issue

[@Surfgidgetthepug]

I have a 2000 GEM E golf cart just removed the acid batteries. It's a 75 volt would this be enough to get her running? Thoughts? Thank you so much

[@BootstrapRevival]

I was wondering about those Gem’s…what kind of batteries came out of it? How many and what voltage?

[@Surfgidgetthepug]

@@BootstrapRevival Ob my goodness I just killed myself & reinstalled the new acid batteries so heavy 😜🤪😂 My GEM is completely refurbished, did it myself but priced the lithium & way too expensive. Between $2,000 to $2,300 for everything. It’s a 72 volt 3 HP, if it were a 46 i would have been cheaper. I’m using Marine 31D deep cycle batteries they last two years only. It cost me $800 for the batteries. Thank you, I tried 🙏

[@jojizzle318]

I have a ezgo txt and have been reading that I have to run two batteries?Do you know if that’s true? Or can I run one like you did?

[@BootstrapRevival]

I used just the one large lithium on a 36v cart. (They make one for a 48v cart too). I'm not sure why you would need two. I would highly suggest a cheap voltage step down converter to run your 12v accessories and lights.

[@MacMcCabe2456]

What ever happened with the 36 volt golf cart you put three cheap 12 volt Walmart batteries in ?

[@BootstrapRevival]

Its still driving around the farm daily. Still zippy, I've not seen any negative effects!

[@michaelmaluchnik2940]

That's cool you are a good son in law

[@justinmarquez9116]

can i just drop this in to my 36 v ez go txt or do i have to add some electical things

[@BootstrapRevival]

For the most part yes. If you have 12v accessories that are wired to one or two batteries you'll need one of those 36v drop down converters. They are around $20, I linked one in the description I used. I do recommend finding a lithium charger, but if you look around you can find a deal.

[@BillSelzer]

i have a kodiak golf cart with 51.2v 105ah eb lithium iron battery. my range is only 35 miles. Disappointing, I am trying to debug the reason for the limited range.

[@BootstrapRevival]

Those are good looking carts! I hope you get your range sorted out.

[@hunterpickard1297]

I mean 35 miles is still pretty good

[@rambocall9300]

what is the green part that the wires are hooked up too?

[@BootstrapRevival]

I had to replace the factory controller because it was fried. I used a Navitas 440 Amp one...works great!

[@rambocall9300]

Ok thank you

[@predatorhuntsnw1835]

How's the battery holding up? I'm looking at buying it for my cart

[@BootstrapRevival]

Honestly it’s been a champ. We gave the cart to the in-laws and they have been using it non stop with no issues.

[@predatorhuntsnw1835]

@BootstrapRevival thanks for the response I'm just a little worried if I go up a steep-ish hill with a passenger or 2 it might trigger the overload and the bms will shut down the battery but it looked like you went up some steeper stuff and it did fine 🤷‍♂️

[@BootstrapRevival]

@@predatorhuntsnw1835 - I did, and the really steep stuff was with two people. It didn't film well, but I went up a super steep pitch up a mountain. That grade is difficult to walk and my cart did fine. I like buying from Amazon because of their return policy. If you do try it out and you have issues you can return it easily. Let us know how it goes!

[@yedid9259]

hi, you only switch the batterie right nothing else?

[@BootstrapRevival]

I added a cheap 12v drop converter to run the lights. Link is in the description.

[@johndeere8360r2]

Are you using a the Lester summit 2 charger with this? I read a review that chins only will accept their own charger

[@BootstrapRevival]

We are using the Lester 2 charger with the generic 36v lithium profile. Between the onboard battery BMS and the lester it has been working fine. The only odd thing is the lester app shows over voltage, but the battery app shows that BMS turns the charge off at the right voltage. I suspect Lester might have a profile update as more of these inexpensive batteries come on the market. We will be at the in-laws house in a few days for the Holidays and I'm going to give it a good once over again. I can follow up if I find any issues (or a new battery profile), but so far we have not used the Chins charger and it's been fine.

[@johndeere8360r2]

Yes make an update video

[@99999jdavila]

Please

[@timelordnoah5179]

With that much power it gives you a lot of range I think you can lose. I’d be cool to figuring out how to double the speed of the cart. You’ll have less range but with how much you have it’s worth it

[@BootstrapRevival]

There are AC motor conversions that will do insane speeds and wheelies - but I swear I'd break the cart or myself!

[@mitchdodd9732]

Only way to increase speed for sure is more voltage, gears in rear diff or tire size . The lithium method increases speed a un noticeable amount unless old batteries were poop and there is a difference in acceleration with lithium do to weight reduction

[@justski40]

its been 11 months how do you like the battery?

[@BootstrapRevival]

It's still going strong in the in-laws cart!

[@justski40]

@@BootstrapRevival sweet thank you going to order one now

[@Matt-n8j2l]

Would it handle a 600 amp navitas

[@BootstrapRevival]

I'm not sure. Our cart was using the navitas 440 with no issue. I think the 48v battery is rated to discharge 500a at once. Will the navitas consume all 600 at once?

[@ballinboy0911]

Did your speed increase at all?

[@BootstrapRevival]

Honestly, I have no idea. It did not run when I got the cart.

[@bruceeverett5372]

Nice Vid! I have a 2006 EZ-GO TXT with the PDS drive (36v)....Is yours a series motor or PDS cart? What are the details on that new controller and harness you've installed? Is there a link to that? My stock Curtis controller seems to run quite warm after just a three mile drive. Thanks

[@BootstrapRevival]

Great question. I have a PDS cart. I used the Navitas 440 Amp TXT stock replacement. It cheaper from this seller on eBay than anywhere else I've found. It includes the cool remote to adjust (and lock) your speed/acceleration/regen. The kit is plug and play. It would not fit under the cover so I cut the cover in half and it hangs out but its waterproof. I was able to keep my run/tow switch in the same spot. I think they make a mounting plate - but I just made do with what I had. www.ebay.com/itm/303204173360 Let us know how it goes!

[@ledman602]

What’s the 12v converter for?

[@BootstrapRevival]

Great question! It runs the 12v headlights and taillights.

[@ledman602]

Awesome thank you! I actually just got a hand me down golf cart that needs batteries and this is the exact kit I’m going to use. Thanks for the video and Amazon links!

[@BootstrapRevival]

@@ledman602 let us know how it goes!

[@jpabst4321]

i just replaced 6- 8V batteries with one Chins 48V 100AH similar to your. I hook it up, and nothing. Do I need to adjust something on the BMS. I heard you mention REGEN set to zero. I see all kinds of options in the settings, protections and delays, but don't know which one might be causing issue? When i turn the key, and put it in reverse, that awful sound comes on; so some power is clearly in the system. But when I hit the pedal, no movement. Any thoughts?

[@BootstrapRevival]

Are you seeing voltage across the terminals with a meter?

[@gurisgarage4527]

Am I able to make a 60v with a chins battery. Says not to do more than 4 batteries in a series but wondering?

[@JM-yx1lm]

No because the BMS they use has certain voltage mosfets that will not support over 48v.

[@edweigman9683]

Those things are absolute JUNK! I've had two fail that are a little over a year old. Tried to do warranty claim and they have been giving me the run around for 2 weeks, every time you give them information they want more and respond two days later. STAY away from this junk, it's going to cost you more in the long run.

[@chentez1]

What do you recommend?

[@edweigman9683]

@@chentez1 good question! I liked the lithium batteries when they worked, much lighter and the voltage is constant until it dies. I bit the bullet and bought an Eco Battery, the price has come down a little but still paid 2800 bucks! Time will tell if it was the right decision....

[@BootstrapRevival]

I can't speak to his experience but ours has been rock solid for a year. My in-laws are not exactly kind to it and its held up.

[@robertmalone3997]

Does it come with fire extinguishers?

[@williamward3433]

A lot of commercials!

[@tomc.4860]

I hope you didnt pay more than $50

[@reastbound3826]

Good video Theres better products out there

[@EugenMurray]

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[@gwarbong]

$800.!! for ONE !

[@Wil-q2p]

This type battery is no good

[@DohertyDaisy-j1e]

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[@starzandmarz]

You did more talking than installing, we the ppl want to see the install..

[@BootstrapRevival]

Sorry about that. The install is very straight forward. Its only 2 wires, Battery + and battery - out of the box with the speed controller in it. If you are using aux lights, headlights, etc I highly suggest wiring in a step down voltage converter listed in the description.

[@MrTaylorfenoglio]

Ya it's literally just sets in there and you put the red wire to the + and the black to the -

[@reastbound3826]

Good video Theres better products out there