This was a GREAT game before EA killed it

[@RangerDave]

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[@overboss9599]

i enjoyed playing BF V, i just didn't buy it because i was told not to.

[@aesemon5392]

Thanks for bringing up the rolling last game was the best with amnesia.

[@aidensman]

I Started the battlefeild franchise playing Bad Co 1 on PS3, and looked thousands of hours between BF3,4 and 1. I've not purchased any entries in the series since because the CEO told me not to buy it if I didn't like it. I Don't intend on changing that any time soon.

[@Maplee857]

sometimes i think about what the game would be like if it had the eastern front

[@RangerDave]

We were sooooo close! Just one more year for this game could have done so much...

[@EJ_Red]

I'm still upset that EA shut down updates for it after a Russian LMG was datamined/leaked, would have been fun

[@SolidAvenger1290]

I honestly think they missed an opportunity to highlight the Winter War between Finland & Russia alongside the Austro-Hungarian resistance (besides having the German Campaign, which many players approved of) regarding the unknown history that showcases the German Question during WW2. Imagine they had created a battlefield at Itter Castle in 45.

[@hmstransit909]

imagine if the Eastern front update would also have maps where the Soviets are fighting the Western Allies in a what-if scenario of Operation Unthinkable being carried out

[@zeplyn-r6]

Would have vastly preferred that over the new North Africa maps and Pacific maps, which are all borderline unplayable.

[@CommandoX798]

It was such a shame that EA killed this game off after the Pacific update. It felt like Battlefield game then, but they wanted to focus on 2042, and even still with the extra time they messed up big. They could have done a lot more amazing things to the game.

[@adenkeys4943]

Yeah, I like to imagine what an Eastern Front update would've been like, I can imagine it would've been great, especially with the good amount of tanks and aircraft the Soviets would've brought to the game would've great, and the weapons as well, and it was all ruined because of 2042

[@ramiere1412]

it lasted as long as its predecessors did

[@supernotnatural]

Battlefield 2042 is a good game now

[@NightlyWatch]

@@adenkeys4943 It would make actual sense for the women, but they had a track record of rewriting history where it didn't need it and ignoring actual diversity.

[@fmg8284]

Yeah but its kinda part of the problem they rushed it and then they took a while to fix 2042 its fun and liked to play it but it was buggy and different from other battlefield games which is why i think alot of people don't like it​@@supernotnatural

[@njb7319]

Firestorm was a giant waste of ressources, could have put that for Eastern Front and Normandy maps

[@ramblingrenegade6346]

Agreed, the trend-chasing and wasting resources on it was a shame, but ngl we did not need another game giving us Saving Private Ryan for the millionth time

[@clemlebleu]

firestorm should have been a stand-alone cause the gameplay was not too bad but well we saw how it went

[@georgewhitworth9742]

@@ramblingrenegade6346Omaha wasn't the only landing at Normandy, you know. We could have gotten Sword, Gold or Utah beach. Heck, could have gotten the bridges mission with the brits

[@ramblingrenegade6346]

@@georgewhitworth9742 true, but realistically which one would they go with? If you want a game that covers the various D-Day landings Easy Red 2's Overlord campaign does a fantastic job

[@Michael_x7]

But realisticly Omaha would be the only one where you get that epic BF style battle as other beaches were comparatively lightly defended. Maybe point du hoc if they wanted something less known (also d-day but more special force style) ​@@georgewhitworth9742

[@joshyfox99]

I’ll always be sad that battlefield v and battlefront 2 were killed off for 2042. For battlefield v we could have had the Barbarossa and some of the Russian guns and the t34. I loved the soldier customisation and being able to have my character have certain coats, pants and headgear especially for the different factions.

[@LexisLodge]

Exactly, with the Pacific update it finally took off from it's rocky start and shortly after EA left it in the dirt. And the gunplay was just phenomenal, everything about it felt satisfying.

[@NYG5]

Only issue was the original Brit/German uniforms were chock full of ahistoric nonsense, it took until the game was about to be trashed for them to give us two actually historical uniforms (kraut helmet still fked up), but Pacific was pretty solid.

[@michaellopez2070]

The goofy old guy with the coat and beard got annoying to look at and threw things off more than the other skins, more than the female operators complained about IMO, who looked barely different in uniform.

[@glennpruess6936]

And bf 1943 was killed off for 2042 because it apparently had alot more active players than bf 2042

[@joshyfox99]

@@glennpruess6936 wouldn’t surprise me truly a lot of games were killed off or stopped getting big updates for 2042 and it’s still not as fun as those were especially I loved bf2 when they finally got the good updates with clone wars stuff

[@Omnikron228]

I was REALLY hoping we would see a Russian side to the factions and some battlefields like Stalingrad, Kursk, Ural Mountains and the Baltics. If EA and DICE were focused on delivering a good game like they did with BF1, imagine how many more expansions we could've had.

[@irishkiwi477]

They were working on the russian faction, we got the LAD mmg for a short while in the firing range which makes me sad

[@ramblingrenegade6346]

Ngl since they were so adamant about showing the "untold" battles, it would've been brilliant to see the Winter War or maybe even the Battle of Budapest instead of just seeing Stalingrad or Kursk for the upteenth time

[@Anon-greyman]

It literally feels like that was the intention. If it wasnt, its almost like the Soviets didnt exist in the battlefield universe. To me it seems like the russian/Soviet DLC was gonna happen, but they scraped it and gave up on the game completely.

[@sr_aron]

The vehicles would have been wicked as well. They could have added t34s, kv1s or IS2s along with IL2s or tu2s

[@spartannoah]

No matter what anyone says, this is my favorite Battlefield

[@RangerDave]

Absolutely underrated

[@Ring_nuts]

Battlefield 2142 has THE best game modes

[@NCshooter1213]

@spartannoah I agree 1000%. I still play a few nights a week and on weekends. I think bfv is the best one with the movement and destruction it has. Plus the plane mechanics just make bfv all around a great game. I'm lost on why so many jumped on the hate train

[@alexliapis318]

Mine to mate. Still playing it. I cannot understand the hate. The game is extremely fun, visually stunning with high attention to detail still not found in any modern game. I think that they should make firestorm free to play.

[@adenkeys4943]

Gameplay wise I love Battlefield 5 it is incredible fun, I will say that Battlefield 1's aesthetic is my favorite though, I love the grim atmosphere of the game, mostly because it accurately describes WWI. But both game's overall are my favorite Battlefields, it may show my age but Battlefield 1 was really the first Battlefield I ever played so I do have some bias toward it and Battlefield 5, but I also like history and historical games were the only thing I played during that time so they were perfect for me to enjoy

[@Peter_Turbo4]

BF1 was just perfect in almost every way, and we need more games like it.

[@yosefyonin6824]

yeah, it would have been so easy to just make the same game as BF1, just with new maps, weapons and gimmicks like building trenches and towing cannos. that's it. nope gotta redo everything while recycling half the guns from BF1.... just disgrace

[@shootermcgavin9270]

BF1 will always be my best memories for the franchise. So many great battles on that one.

[@billrobert3226]

Can we just play BF1 with no expectations of them ever making another game we like? Until the servers get shut off, that is?

[@StateOfTheMind11225]

i dont think people were like that during the first 6 months of BF1, the random bullet deviation, the fact vehicles are selectable in roles meaning teams could have only artillery trucks and no tank pushes, conquest wasn't ticket based just Large Domination maps got everyone angry, there was a lot people still dont like about the gameplay to this day. Still it was an amazing game and grand operations is if not one of the greatest additions to the Battlefield series with the narrative of soldiers during the loding screen, the officer speaking out in the briefings to the female historian summarizing things that happened in history and speculation if the historically defeated team won instead, there was so much right with BF1 DICE deserved the recognition they did and making millions of people interested in WW1 despite BF1's gameplay wasn't really historically accurate just going by the rule of fun.

[@ktk640]

BF1 had the best atmosphere and immersion but BFVs gunplay is still much more enjoyable imo.

[@joshwongwai3532]

The animations for 5 was the best they’ve made in all battlefields, from the entering and exiting of vehicles to the squad revives and even the tuck and roll feature to negate fall damage. I mained recon and it was so incredibly satisfying to snipe the heads of people just about to enter vehicles or just about to revive a downed squad mate. Oh and the numerous styles of takedown animations as well. I have 2.5k hours in this game and although I don’t play as much I still hop on and play more than any other game at the moment.

[@Sw0842]

You forgot the last Tiger warstory. A Mission were you played the axis instead of always being on the allied side was just something else. IT was good

[@raven_1133]

And perhaps the most accurate war stories.

[@Natediggetydog]

Agreed, it was very refreshing to see all sides represented. Also the fact that it humanized the German soldiers for once instead of showing them all as mindless drones puppeted by the Nazis. It helps to paint a more touching picture of how tragic war really is.

[@loserinasuit7880]

​@Natediggetydog Something that BF1 dropped the ball on. The fact we didn't get ONE central powers campaign but we get to play as a self flagellating nazi was disgusting to me.

[@Natediggetydog]

@@loserinasuit7880 you mean to tell me that anyone in their right mind *wouldnt* have been ashamed of what their nation was doing in that situation? The lack of any central powers perspective in bf1 did suck though.

[@loserinasuit7880]

@Natediggetydog What I'm saying is that it was extremely lazy for an Axis story that was an easy way out. Of course everyone wants to play as the Nazi who felt bad because they don't have the balls to go all in on a soldier excited for war during 1939 or portray Axis Finland, or the Middle East, or the Japanese. I don't think they even bothered with a Chinese story, if they wanted the honorable wermacht German then they could have done a tank crew in North Africa under Rommels command. But instead we get the laziest Axis story possible that people think is deep because the German is basically Allied propoganda 80 years after the war ended.

[@EJ_Red]

The only real bad things about this game was the horrible PR and marketing prior to release, and the lack of maps and factions at release. As an FPS, however, it was one of the best games I have played in the 2010s cause it was mechanically and gameplay-wise a near flawless game. The Pacific content seemed like a huge step up so I was actually excited to see what future content they would release, and when I saw that a Russian LMG was datamined I was excited for a potential Eastern Front update. Huge lost opportunity right there EA/Dice, BFV actually would have had a decent redemption arc. I still play it from time to time on my XBox, but like BF1 it doesn't have the same magic it used to (Understandably, it is half a decade old already).

[@327legoman]

BFV did some good things but I'm not a fan of the ninja soldiers which have only ramped up since bf3. Infantry increasingly feel very liquid, every soldier is a greased up parkour expert and so to compensate there's a plethora of fully and semi auto weapons. Also when you make a WW2 shooter it's always important to make every faction *feel* different. It adds so much complexity. But besides vehicle's and voice lines, all factions play the same. When everyone has access to the same weapons, you have to balance everything into boring mediocrity. But if you allow limited numbers of powerful machine gunners and such, it creates a far more diverse game.

[@EJ_Red]

@@327legoman Unfortunately the type of game you want cannot be found in Battlefield, at least not in 1 and V (never played the others). Games closest I can think of that you are describing are Hell Let Loose, and the World War I games by BlackMill (Verdun, Tannenberg, Isonzo). I can only speak for those cause I have played them in the past, Post Scriptum also came to mind but I never played it nor did I watch enough videos for a good grasp of gameplay.

[@327legoman]

@@EJ_Red well I feel the older titled wear a nice balance between arcade and milsim. The titled you're mentioning are all milsim. Red orchestra 2 was the closest in my mind in bridging the gap between milsim and arcade in more 'recent' times, though even now that game is majorly outdated and has a very small player count. You can have interesting asymmetrical gameplay and non-ADHD-ChildOnSmarties pace without being a milsim.

[@EJ_Red]

@@327legoman Problem is that the type of Battlefield you want will never come back because of the type of players it attracted when gaming became mainstream as a hobby. People like flashy and action-packed gameplay so EA/Dice capitalized on that and threw MilSim out the window. And it will likely stay that way until there is a shift in both the company and the playerbase. Or even the AAA industry as a whole.

[@viscera9579]

I'm saying, like from the original cod stalingrad sewers as a map for the russian front would have been a much more appropriate map than the metro map we got

[@johnmccall4528]

IMHO the biggest disappointment in Battlefield history was that there never was a Bad Company 3.

[@comdrive3865]

Bad company 2 was 2 good they had to make it more profitable so you end up with 2042 instead of 3

[@trollmastermike52845]

Never forget the great tune bad company 1 loading screen has

[@theFORZA66]

Rush > conquest

[@ml-fishing1341]

Bad company was just so fun and clean for pvp, felt so good and I had a terrible box tv and ps3 but it ran like no tomorrow and looked great to.

[@Surrealkine]

I agree, Bad Company 2 was such a wonderfully fun game to play, great maps and vehicles, with gameplay instead of cosmetic BS being being the primary focus of EA. I haven’t been impressed with a Battlefield game since BF 4, which was the last title before they just tried to sex up their game’s with unnecessary bloat. I didn’t find BF 1 much fun or BF 5. Never even bothered with 2042. EA/Dice should look at Hell Let Loose and Squad as inspiration for future releases.

[@cableyoutuber]

I’m still upset about the lack of maps, and lack of American vehicles. All we get is a Sherman or Greyhound (and for some reason we’re lend-leasing from the British with the Valentine AA). No Pershing, no Wolverine, no Hellcat? What the heck EA?

[@joehalsey3125]

I agree my biggest problem with the game was how they kept changing the weapon balance on me. I have recently come back to the game and I have been having a great time. One thing I really appreciate as a mainly infantry player is the difference between strategic and tactical conquest, so I can pick whether or not I want to get fisted by vehicles.

[@ALaughingWolf2188]

As someone who was defending the game from the beginning, I honestly felt like I was stabbed in the back when they cut support for it, I was so excited for what they had in store next and then all of that potential was thrown into the trash because they needed more hands on a game that EA didn’t even know what they wanted to do with yet. Whenever I play bfv it always pains me that I’m playing what is practically an unfinished game. There is no eastern front, there is no D-Day, no Market Garden, no Stalingrad or Kiev. there aren’t any t-34’s, KV1’s and 2’s, no Panther’s or king tigers, all of these things that people would LOVE to have in a battlefield never got to see the light of day. There was *so* much potential this game had once it was on the right track, and as a community we absolutely dropped the ball with treating it like it was the worst thing ever. Hell, the fortification mechanic is still one of my favorite things in a battlefield game, the movement is by far the best in the series, it had so many things going for it, and bad decisions from higher ups in EA, and the community that abandoned it are at fault, it really sucks to see how this game will never get to see its full potential.

[@rainbowcrasch2537]

I felt the same way

[@raptonsoul2557]

I only ever played the beta but building was the main thing I liked and mostly dropped out because it felt that they were making bad decisions, also one of reason I got into monster hunter

[@fish5671]

You immediately discredited yourself by saying "I supported it from the beggining" just because it got "good" doens't mean it wans't ass at launch

[@ALaughingWolf2188]

@@fish5671 hey pal, beginning is spelled with one g, not two

[@fish5671]

@@ALaughingWolf2188 alright

[@ash._.es_._]

I dunno bro, infantry attrition was pretty abysmal.

[@tadamoriyagi8265]

I bought this game in July for $5. It's fun and better than I expected. The only thing I don't like is that the starting weapon kits in multiplayer are not accurate to the corresponding factions.

[@YazzFIoot]

That might've been cool. Never thought about it. Like each faction has their own starting primary that corresponds to their military, but then at like class level 3 or 5 you can equip guns from other factions. I could get behind that

[@AH64Gunship]

Well i mean its not hell let loose or anything. Besides youve been able to do this in nearly every battlefield game

[@tsiegy]

If I’m not mistaken, BFV is the only BF title that allows you to disable load out mirroring between factions

[@simonphoenix3789]

I was one of those people that was really looking forward to a WWII battlefield because of my fond memories playing 1942. But that trailer sealed the deal. The reason I even want to play a WWII game is because I love the setting and equipment. if you suddenly introduce garish looking cosmetics and female soldiers, it doesn't feel much like a WWII game anymore. On a tangent, I always felt it was rather unfortunate that the battlefield franchise chose to make aircraft handle in such an arcadey manner. It would be amazing if the detailed damage simulation of warthunder could be blended with the frostbyte engine's environmental destruction, and have aircraft handle more realistically. Or at least offer servers with that option.

[@adbad3148]

Battlefield V never felt like a World War II game to me. It was just this crazy over the top shooter that is so common anymore. I'm fine with female soldiers as long as it's done in a true to history way, Call of Duty 2 Incorporated female soldiers into the Russian campaign and did it very well.

[@SigfridSWE]

Agree

[@pvtjohntowle4081]

Missed opportunities with the locations. No Normandy map and no Eastern Front map either Stalingrad or Kursk.. they had a Battle for Berlin Campaign called the Last Tiger but not a multiplayer Battle for Berlin map. Could have been done but they (EA) lost interest and weren't committed to finishing the game. 😢😢😢😢

[@sendingit2601]

The female aspect didn’t bother me too much besides the constant screams of agony. Like holy shit it was annoying

[@snipingflute4346]

@@pvtjohntowle4081Maybe we’ll see future modern-style Battlefield game featuring Kursk again… Too soon?

[@Craigstatch]

Never ever am I forgiving EA to stop Star Wars Battlefront 2 for Battlefield 2042

[@mikehoncho4985]

To anyone that’s still playing bfv. PLEASE try this at least once it’s such a vibe. Spawn in as a tiger tank and play the WaW Russian theme. It goes astronomically hard trust

[@Reihner78]

My fondest memory of BFV was being some random's Sherman front machinegunner and switching to the top machine gun to keep the enemy at bay, while the tank went under emergency repairs Felt like a kick to the shins that they ended support right as BFV was beginning to pick itself back up

[@rawnchydeard4669]

I’ve been playing V again and loving it. Coming back to all my gold guns, maxed vehicles and knowing all the maps and the flow, it’s been like slipping on an old pair of comfy shoes.

[@RangerDave]

That is a great way to put it!

[@itssmoothk9113]

I’ve just started playing it on pc i had like 600+hrs on console feels like a new game

[@jordonturner9559]

I would have really appreciated a Vietnam or even Korean war era battlefield game.

[@stevenzwiesler5104]

BFV was hands down 1 of if not the most underrated and overhated battlefield games to date. I don't think people realized how good it was until they lost support for it.

[@ec5838]

We don't care how good it was or wasn't, we were never going to play woke pandering trash.

[@shootermcgavin9270]

The first time storming the top of Iwo Jimo in breakthrough will never be forgotten!

[@Blackdeathgaming-yv1kk]

The marketing was a disaster though, and that is where the hate actually came from. Dice promised the game to be something it wasn't which made it very disrespectful to to the actual soldiers of ww2. And their response to the outcry was when worse. Dice promised the most authentic ww2 experience to date. That was their own words. They would show some more forgotten battles of the war but it was supposedly going to be their most authentic ww2 experience yet. And that reveal trailer was anything but authentic to the ww2 experience when it came to the cosmetics and stuff like that.

[@georgewhitworth9742]

It wasn't overhated. The hate was toward EA and it was well deserved

[@stevenzwiesler5104]

@@georgewhitworth9742 the game itself was completely overhated, sorry not sorry

[@Exodia.57]

And don't forget about Star Wars BF2 they pulled the plug on that game too as it was on its way to greatness

[@damiangaming5696]

Referencing the Title here "You mean like Battlefront 2 how when it finally started to earn some good will back it was cut off in favor of Bugfield 2042

[@stevenzwiesler5104]

truthfully I think a lot of the reason support was cut was because of the backlash and hate EA and DICE got. I mean put yourself in their shoes, would you want to continue throwing money and dev time at a game that is getting so much hate after you spent so much time trying to fix it and make it better? I sure wouldn't. I think that if the community didnt throw shade so much and actually appreciated the game and what it did right instead of focusing so much on the negative, it would have been a totally different story.

[@MacGuyver85]

@@stevenzwiesler5104 Is this what they call gaslighting? It is isn't it... You're turning the situation around: it's EA/Dice that f*cked up, not the player base. The string of poor decisions started before the game released and continued up till the point they shut development down.

[@damiangaming5696]

@@stevenzwiesler5104 No EA at Drop Deserved all of the Hate with the Pay2Win and Lootcrates so bad they got them BANNED in several countries. EA got stuck on that hate for their greed and killed the game out of spite cause players were returning after the Clone Wars Content started to come out

[@dragonbornexpress5650]

@@stevenzwiesler5104. You mean the positives that EA and DICE actively discouraged by insulting the playerbase?

[@stevenzwiesler5104]

@@damiangaming5696 bruh im talking about BFV, not battlefront 2. at most, BF2 currently needs an anti-cheat that actually works and a massive hero re-balance considering heroes have been unbalanced since launch. BF2 deserved every bit of hate it got at launch I agree with that statement, but my comment was meant about BFV.

[@EnclaveOperator]

I loved all the small details in Bf5 and physicality like with the revives not just being you electrocuting the air above the down soldier like in past battlefields but actually getting down and jabbing a needle into their arm.

[@tormundtv]

I still actively play BFV (Albeit custom servers) but I never really had an issue with it. The map design wasn't blowing me away like 1 did, and it definitely felt like a step backwards in terms of the cinematic battles BF1 had. But in terms of the movement, animations and visuals, I really like BFV.

[@zeplyn-r6]

I agree about the map design. Some base game maps like Rotterdam were enjoyable, but some of the post launch North Africa and Pacific maps are borderline unplayable. I've always been enraged by people liking the remastered and original pacific maps because DICE should not be congratulated for HORRIBLE map design.

[@jacaredosvudu1638]

​@@zeplyn-r6 seems like you are really alone on this hill

[@zeplyn-r6]

@@jacaredosvudu1638 Everybody but me is wrong🤣. Most people go 15-12 on battlefield. I can actually tell what maps are good and bad by my performance.

[@ChuckGinther]

I loved the attrition system. It made support and medic players feel useful. I loved how support players could build things other classes couldnt or how you NEEDED a medic in order to last for extended periods of time. Also, it's criminal that crouch sprint didn't make a comeback in 2042.

[@chrisplays3744]

One thing that Bf5 is missing is a teambalencer. Every single time you join a new server and look in at the enemy team and seeing a a lot of highlevels and then you look in your team in which are the most low level players. That makes the most rounds in this game copletely unplayable and destroys the fun in most cases sadly. A teambalencer can fix this issue and makes rounds more fun to play because both sites are balanced with skilled players and makes the game more unpredictable and thrilling at the same time.

[@Mthom95]

I still play it

[@StephenBailey87]

I'm so glad you brought up the sweeping changes to TTK and gunplay. The gunplay was one of the things that kept me playing through the dearth of new content, right up until the Pacific update. Once the TTK/gunplay changes first dropped, I never played it regularly again. Before that, it was the most I'd enjoyed the gunplay in a Battlefield game. I played it a little after they reverted it, but then they changed it again and I haven't touched it since. How is the gunplay/TTK these days?

[@clemlebleu]

13 bullet to kill someone far away with the FG-42 (or something like that I can't recall well)

[@gamingmoth4542]

I honestly believe the Squad System and Class System for BF5 was really well done. I like the option to be able to heal members of your own squad despite not being a medic.

[@MoarPye]

BF2 with the Project Reality mod was the peak of the series for me. I bought BF3, played about 10 hours, then went back to PR for a while but it had lost a lot of players to the new hotness. It was soon hard to get full games on the AU/NZ servers, so it became a 'Saturday Night' game, and then eventually just died out. Always regretted my BF3 purchase, and I was done with the series after that.

[@Hamdledisboi]

🫵😹

[@ReichLife]

Somewhat similar experience for me. BF2/BF2142 were peak Battlefield games, Bad Company 2 was overall better even shooter though lacking in series spirit. But then came BF3... Biggest disappointment I ever had in gaming. Didn't bother with any title from series afterwards.

[@frogsaup]

never forget how they cancelled 2 good games, going into a super good direction, for 2042... justice for battlefront 2

[@Flakfire]

the rehabilitation of Battlefield V continues...

[@dawarmonky2122]

Yooooooo. I forgot about your youtube page. Glad you are still around.

[@gamingroyale9556]

Battlefield 1 was peak battlefield

[@ReichLife]

*2

[@flukey3291]

1 and 5 are my favorite so it is sad that they abandoned it especially since firestorm was a battle royale i enjoyed and had potential i feel. wonder what the next battlefield will bring if they are going to even make another

[@FreakinShane]

I definitely would've loved to see them do another year of content at least on BF1 and 5 each and to have let Firestorm have the support it needed.

[@iLovePyRo_]

When I first played the Beta, I thought it was alright. Then I played it at launch, and it wasn’t me. I wasn’t used to the movement, the limited vehicle ammo, so I only played to level 22. After being away for like 2-3 years, I gave it another try, and now it’s one of the only games I play, level 330, and now prefer the bandage and limited vehicle ammo systems.

[@bbcmotd]

"WW2 Battlefield" without mentioning the Russians, but with Japanese girls on the German team crouch sliding across Norwegian mountains with golden post-war French weapons, fighting against black Brits in clown facepaint... yeah BFV was "great"

[@planetdrull1701]

Cry about it

[@ReichLife]

@@planetdrull1701 Said a cry baby. xD Cope, game is a joke.

[@planetdrull1701]

@@ReichLife It’s one of the best games in the franchise and I can actually play it. I’ve got nothing to cry about

[@ReichLife]

@@planetdrull1701 If your list is limited to it and 2042 then such crying of your's make sense. In reality? 1942, Vietnam, 2, 2142, BC1, BC2, 3, 4, 1943 and 1 are all better games from the series. V is literally on the bottom, with likes of Hardline and 2042 simply being beneath bottom.

[@planetdrull1701]

@@ReichLife I never played 2042, but man, you’ve got some poor taste in games. If you want to be a dedicated fanboy to “the good games” just go play those instead of arguing with me.

[@edwardcigarettehands8112]

i really liked the bf5 trailer when it came out bc it actually felt like a battlefield match, no matter how "realistic" you make battlefield, youll still be jumping out of exploding houses beatin fools with shovels and the trailer showed that perfectly. exept for the weird disabled lady

[@FreakinShane]

Definitely wish they would have given the game another year for content, got a bit more Pacific, got some eastern front and a Normandy map and maybe more. Would've been cool too to see some other places not usually featured in games like Hungary or maybe Singapore with the Brits and Japanese. They always cut these games too short, this one was especially bad for that because it started getting really good when they decided to stop updating it and I will always hate them for how they just let firestorm die when they could've split it off as a free to play part of the game. So much wasted potential.

[@funnykenji]

The problem of being a long term or hardcore fan is that, people can be super dedicated but the moment you push them off he edge they are never coming back because they felt betrayed, cant blame them.

[@jessesims6232]

BFV was my first real bf online experience and will always hold a very special place for me. My wife would even jump in and play with me. She never got any kills, but she’d lead the scoreboard in revives!

[@tigerblaze1205]

IMO this, along with Battlefield 2 are some of the best battlefields ever. 1st of all I find that the simplest games are often the most fun ones. This game being set in WWII means theres no helicopters, laser guided missiles, no lock on systems, thermal optics etc. It is just dudes, led and skill so instantly everything feels more balanced and purely skill dependant than in BF4 for example which to me feels like a technological cluster fk full of tryhards on crack. There is a sense of teamwork and squad play in BFV that is more common than not even when playing with random players - like most people playing this game understand the value of playing together with your unit/team. I like the tempo of the game, the flow of the maps even though most of them are quite linear, the gunplay and gun sounds are awesome, the movement and vaulting is buttery smooth. I still play this game a lot and even after racking up probably close to 1000h combined on PC and consoles its still so much fun. EA abandoned this game way too soon.

[@tristanriley6901]

I have over 800 hours in this game. Easily my favorite battlefield game. One disagreement I have with your take is I loved the war of attrition that existed at the beginning of the games life cycle. It made fights more intense in the same way the tank and plane fights were when it came to ammo counts.

[@ghengiscone152]

Agreed

[@aragornii507]

EA officially killed off this game when the British were replaced by the USA in panzerstorm conquest

[@cory2146]

Battlefield 2 still has the best formula.

[@malcontender6319]

And every iteration since has been desperately trying and failing to recapture the magic.

[@person4436]

The tank customization with soooo many different things you could put on them, the plane customization was insane too… so many different vehicles, so many different guns, the graphics were god tier, the destruction was epic, other battlefields don’t even come close

[@sanquentin82]

Almost every gaming influencer trashed Battlefield V when it was current, and now almost all of them are saying how great it actually was

[@viscera9579]

I'm gonna be honest, if EA revived support for BF5 or atleast announced they would add a soviet expansion and add new maps for US v Germany some of my ill will towards EA will disappear

[@RangerDave]

That would be the smartest move EA's made since 2020

[@samushamu7372]

Skipped both this game and 2042 because of the controversy. Went from a hardcore battlefield fan to zero interest in the series, it's amazing how bad mishandling of a franchise can do that.

[@JustK0SH]

33:40 Pure cinema, man. Why i love Battlefield so much

[@MenGamer127]

1:06 I’ve been saying this for years

[@kittycat2863]

Same man, favourite BF title.

[@aroderiv3393]

This game had just two things i really didn't like: the possibility of heal yourself with a med pack and the possibility for the teammates to revive you, take out some of the fun of being a medic.

[@twbi9190]

Battlefield V released after BF1 and COD WW2 that's why people felt bored with more world war games and BF V , for me that time was perfect to release Bad Company 3 .

[@wendeloni9886]

nah, they weren´t bored of WW shooters, they were bored of the woke-propaganda they were pushing

[@puggy_.]

BfV really got me into playing fps games as a kid It may not be the best battlefield (bf1 obviously) But it holds a special place in my heart

[@danielpeter8767]

Battlefield 5 was not good, something about the game was off and definitely was missing a significant amount of content and the gameplay/gunplay is terrible all the guns feel like I’m shooting them with BBs

[@engiturtle65]

yeah not really, it was alright but could have been better

[@dawarmonky2122]

You are crazy If you think the gun play sucked. It's literally some of the best gun play we've ever had in a battlefield game lol

[@Scorch052]

one of the most frustrating things about new entries in the BF series is how they keep insisting on fucking with the TTK and gunplay. They inevitably change everything in ways the players hate, then spend like a year tweaking it back to pretty much what they settled on with the last game.

[@coleshattuck8200]

huh, 16 seconds ago. Well thanks for the videos mate i love them man

[@RangerDave]

Glad you like 'em!

[@amuplay2302]

This probably doesn't surprise you but as a Norwegian, I really liked seeing Norway mentioned in a WW2 videogame. Norway really only gets recognition for WW2 through Norwegian movies and a lot of videogame companies overlook it entierly because the nordic front isn't as well known as Normandy or Stalingrad but I feel like it's nice to change up who fights who on snow maps :) The only games that I know that has Norway in them are Battlefield V, War Thunder and Vigor. Honorable mention to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare II (2022) for adding a Norwegian character voiced by a Dane and a tiny bit Red Dead Redemption 2 for featuring a Norwegian-Danish rifle and a Norwegian character, Nils. I would definitly like to see more of my beloved country in the gaming industry in the near future :)

[@neurocidesakiwi]

The second i saw female soldiers i was out. Had zero interest in participating in that nonsense.

[@rod99ttett90]

I played this game mostly on console and i love the game but playing in planes can be hell. Either you are at the mercy of teammates spotting or the mechanic that allows better visibility of ground troops kiks in when you are at anti air deadly range That's why camera spotting is so good in planes

[@Smokereca]

One of the reasons it died is because they decided to go the route of woman,other etnicitiec and etc that had nothing to do with the game and period. It was just modern propaganda. People just wanted a good classic ww2 game with ton of customization and details. But nope....they had to make a black nazi....i mean wtf what was the reason? to be creative or what?

[@PvtPartzz]

Imagine a battlefield set in WWII with War Thunder’s aircraft physics and controls and its detailed armor and weapon characteristics… second thought, I don’t even need the tank gameplay from WT, but the aircraft physics, flight models, damage models… god damn does Battlefield pale in comparison. And no, Enlisted does not scratch that itch. I’m so tired of “F2P” games that lock 90% of the content behind an absurd grind that is only doable by buying ridiculously priced “premium” vehicles, packs, or whatever bullshit they’re selling. Just give me the full game at a fair price.

[@1991ace1]

You know why they are called DICE? Because every franchise they touch, dies.

[@RangerDave]

Oooooooof, got 'em

[@FrontierStarterGroup]

Would've probably been better if you said they cut every franchise they touch to pieces or something.

[@1991ace1]

@@FrontierStarterGroup but then the joke wont fit

[@FrontierStarterGroup]

@@1991ace1 Sure.

[@pvtjohntowle4081]

I only remember a flamethrower as a Battlefield pickup on Operation Underground and Tides of War War in the Pacific. Wasn't something you could add to your character,. No heavy bombers no sea warfare. No jet fighter like ME262. It was just a poor implementing of WW2 with so many aspects missing.

[@You-gn9uk]

What EA missed about the recent games is that it could never let you feel that feeling again on everything you do in-game feels like a trailer. Battlefield 3, 4, 1 and 5 had that feeling. But not on 2042.

[@garretisla5282]

I actually dislike Battlefield 1. A lot. I know, I know, I must be crazy, right? No. As a Battlefield vet, I despised the "innovations" they came out with. They went against every single core battlefield metric that made Battlefield, well, BATTLEFIELD! Visually, don't get me wrong. The game was, and is a marvel of beauty. Stunning ambiance, sound design that was absolutely gorgeous. But the mechanics? Garbage. Random bullet deviation was and is atrocious. And it goes against everything that 20 plus years of my battlefield instincts yearned for. Sweet spot mechanics? Stupid. Why? Bullets should ALWAYS do the most damage at the muzzle. Period. That is how they work. Overpowered pistols, doing more literal shot per shot damage than full bore rifle rounds. Ridiculous. Hero class characters, with the ability to heal, resupply ammo, instantly kill ANYONE at melee range, and have 600% the health or more of regular soldiers. Why? Because they ride a horse? How stupid. You could solo every single piece of armor as a calvary soldier, solo, with ease. Infinite grenades, ammo, heals, and you could move faster than any vehicle with the exception of planes. Absurd. I love Battlefield. But I hated that game. It had the potential to be by far and away, the best battlefield game ever made. But it left a bitter taste in my mouth. I know, most people loved that game, and for most people, it was their introduction to the franchise. But it was a bitter pill for all too many of us older battlefield players. It spat in the face of everything we had learned from the other titles, and played into the casual quick to come, quick to go gamers that played. Gone was the time and skill of learning recoil patterns and bullet drops of specific weapons platforms that allowed you to push the envelope of your weapons capabilities. You could only use specific weapon types in and at specific ranges, and couldn't go beyond them. At all. Unlike older titles, that let you use a pdw at long range, if only you learned how! Or a shotgun at long range, or a gamut of other scenarios. 😢😢😢

[@GabrielMartinez-sd8pc]

Why are people saying BFV was good or going to get better? They had no intention on turning that game into what the community wanted. They had no intention on bringing a BF1-vibe to BFV. They had no intention on bringing BFV into an actual historical shooter. Stop saying, “tHeY CoULdVE EaStERn FRonT.” Yea, that was like beginning WWII. They gave you Rotterdam and said F you. Y’all are delusional.

[@BlastinRope]

if bf5 went straight historical art style and everything else stayed the same nobody would have complained

[@szepiz]

Both EA and Dice should pull their heads out of their asses and realise how much people like bfv now and just go back and continue development. But that would hurt their pride or something.

[@TwiShy27]

infantry mechanics is what made me not enjoy the game. no hp regen without doing walk of shame to a supply box or finding a medic, no spotting so i cant tell if thats a bush or a person. everything else is nitpicky but these 2 reasons are why when i booted it up, it isnt fun. wish i liked it cuz the game looks fun

[@raven_1133]

BFV had to live up to the hype of BF1. That’s one of the more ignored things.

[@capt251978]

Dogfighting in this game was phenomenal. Best planes of the series

[@sterlingarcher265]

Dice failed when they had a female amputee as the main focus of the trailer in a ww2 game. the game died at the reveal, its as simple as that.

[@Im_the_captain_now]

EA lost big chance of showing what ww2 really was. Fronts like Yugoslavia vs Germany or Greece vs Italy in Epirus mountain or the eastern front (and Finland front also). So many historical battles, yet, nothing was added

[@zeplyn-r6]

Hot take: the Pacific maps are absolutely HORRENDOUS and they should have added the eastern front instead if the pacific, and more US western front maps instead of more North Africa.

[@Itallianmobboss]

Some of them sucked

[@dr.ludwig8189]

"missed potential" is really a good way to describe this game, every time you play it you think "this is good but it could have been better"

[@mrnull7513]

Battlefield V was personally my favourite only because I had my own "only in battlefield moment" where I somewhat committed a war crime by downing a spitfire in a BF109 then going into first person as the enemy pilot was bailing out and walking out onto the wing, where I then shot him off by satisfyingly aiming him up in the gun sight and holding the trigger down, was the coolest video game moment I've ever experienced.

[@luke4010]

Agreed this is my favorite battlefield. Broke my heart when i see everyone jump on the "BF5 hate bangwagon". It annoyed me because the game could have gone so much farther. Imagine all the maps and guns we WOULD have gotten. Also those vehicles😍 god damn so good

[@RiceLegit]

We turned from trying to make a realistic military base game to a future military that doesn’t really make sense most times.

[@gabrielmajin5265]

This game is NOT dead. It`s actually the most played Battlefield game at the moment.

[@JesusChrist-qs8sx]

15:30 Biggest problem with the games "unknown battles" imo wasn't the unknown battles, but the fact they also tried to do a "live service follows the war" thing at the same time. If the game had launched with the Soviets and Americans and Japanese on a few maps it would have been much better received imo

[@mercenarydelta7351]

Yeah, quite a shame. The game, on launch, should have at least added one more faction for each side, with all the content they have: The Soviets/USSR for the Allies. There's plenty of content there, plus it being the Eastern Front, a very important front of the war. The Italians for the Axis. They're quite forgotten whenever there's a WW2 game, so having them there would be a nice thing to have. Plus all of their weaponry and vehicles. Then with the DLCs, they could maybe focus on the smaller battles of the war, such as a Resistance DLC that adds the French and Polish resistance as factions alongside their maps or maybe one where it adds in weapons and vehicles that were planned but didn't see combat, like the Secret Weapons of WW2 DLC for Battlefield 1942.

[@zp9898]

Ngl I haven't played it PURELY because I was told don't play it if you don't like what we doing.....so I haven't 🤷‍♂️

[@JeremythekidRS]

really liking this new style of 'mini documentary' videos youre making. by the way, since youve shown an interest in building destruction, have you checked out the finals? game has some of my favorite destruction ive experienced

[@tunasandwich8049]

I love how the only complaint for battlefield 1 is how the campaign isn't longer

[@denharte8670]

If I get a plane I always make sure to do low flybys on my team to give ‘em the old Battlefield Experience. It’s always best in BF1 Operations right when a sector opens up and everybody starts yelling and blowing whistles.

[@thedoodindoing3931]

One time on Iwo Jima I used the towed aa gun to get as close as possible to the runway for planes. For like 10-15 minutes I was spawn camping the runway until I got the death barrier notification. I also positioned it just right to where snipers couldn’t hit me. This was also why I don’t mind but then also hate the runway spawning for planes, cause you can get spawn camped.

[@viper2165]

EA ruined Battlefield when they went away from dedicated Hardcore servers. this is why I played battlefield. Been playing since mid 2000s.

[@AthosRac]

Destruction was introduced in BFBC2. In that game, even in a destroyed house, there is cover inside. The justification against flatten terrain is not justified. The devs probably never played BFBC2.

[@wrbsloat]

Also by far the best feature of bf5 which they went and ruined early on was the ability to run over the entire enemy team with a tank before the round even starts. I hope we get that back in battlefield 7.

[@JaySee-sr1yj]

It makes no sense to love battlefield 5 and hate 2042, the games are extremely similar. bf5 is a steaming pile of garbage and 2042 was just a continuation of that. Battlefield 1 was the last great battlefield game, and I hope that Dice, though most of the talent has left since then, can back to basics and make a good battlefield again.

[@warrencrum5474]

I personally never knew there was a controversy about this game. I loved it when I played it and just ignored the cosmetic systems.

[@MrDolearon]

I got the game years after launch at the behest of a friend who wanted to play, and all I got was hackers, hackers everywhere, every game we would get 1 hacker who just dominated everyone,, notable instance where if you tried to use the chat to tell people the hacker would flood the chat with just noise.

[@JJH9699]

The thing for me is that when EA said, "Don't like it don't buy it," and proceeded to generalize the entire audience that had gripes with the marketing, of which a majority had actual legitimate complaints and concerns, I decided to take it to heart and while I enjoy watching BFV from time to time on your channel and it seems like a decent product, I will NEVER touch it for the previously mentioned statement. It would have to go for $1 with all the extra content before I'd consider it. It's ironic to me that the BR mode was called "Firestorm" and then flopped given the games reception.

[@bradenfredrick2720]

2:53 I think newer battlefield games need to have more plane options like in bf1 and 5 where you have fighter planes and bombers etc there shouldn't just be two planes fighting constantly there should be at least 3 fighters and one bomber.... It'd be so sick to look up and see a whole air battle protecting a bomber while there is also a battle on the ground then you can have ppl fly constantly in diff roles and diff style planes... it just makes me sad how bf1 and 5 have way more planes than modern day battlefield games even though there are SOOOOOO many modern war planes....

[@pedromaurutto]

Battlefield V's marketing was terrible, but when I got it for free on PS plus I unexpectedly loved it. It was different from what I was used to with other battlefields, but it was so much fun to play with friends.

[@LordOfCinder85]

If they made Battlefield 2 in modern graphics, with all the add-on's and all the old Bf2 mechanics ( actual main bases with destructible modules) and then added destructible buildings and bridges, they would have an instant hit. I cant remember anymore how many hours i spent playing the special forces add-on.

[@Nobel737]

BFV was despite the hate for me right from the beginning a favorite of mine. It had good destruction but building as well some cover again, the gun play was just... amazing. A bit of a fast movement but still awesome, I wouldn't want a change. Had some balancing issues some times but they managed and it was an all in all awesome game, otherwise I wouldn't have spent as well my 900+h in it. The spotting system was just waaaay better, no spotting spamming and a good role skill for snipers. The visibility issue people had... kinda didn't had those myself and liked it, cause i was able to use it to properly hide. And people hated my AT Rifle kills.

[@danilocoelho9915]

If they had chosen a more traditional approach in the first maps, using more well-known theaters of war, I think it would have made such a difference in the acceptance by the player base