The ISSUE with Rangers' tactics vs Celtic

[@bards7443]

No need to be completely baffled. It is simple, better players will shine through. Its not "mentality" or "spooked after the offside goal" .... ultimately its about talent or lack thereof

[@bobdublin825]

So true. Should have set up for a tie

[@Aldo21574]

I disagree. Yes, they have better players but their attitude and work ethic blows ours away! If we worked as hard off the ball and on the ball as they do the games would be much closer.

[@camdenbhoy6192]

Part of being a "better player " is work ethic / reaction times etc. Skill is just small part along with personality when signing players. If they don't have work ethic before you sign them, chances are they will not do it​. Manager can ask as much as he wants but chances are it will not change. Because 99% of managers would ask for that, so why would this manager get different results .@@Aldo21574

[@cutekanjii]

It's a bit of both. Lack of talent and a losers' mentality coming from the phoney that is the "captain" and filtering down to any new players. If you take the Rangers team of the 90s any new players coming in would be exposed to that winning mentality and if they couldn't handle it, they'd be found out pretty quickly. It's the same now except the other way around. They are coming into a losers mentality. There was/is absolute no reason why it shouldn't have been tried without tavernier. Nothing to lose whatsoever. Only if it was a serial conning captain would you fear losing. It's madness to change 2 whole teams around this guy and neither work. It doesn't take a genius to work out he's a problem. Makes me wanna tare my hair out how he's become Mr Rangers sick of the sight of the loser and Clement and his dopey, boring mumblings 🤢🤮

[@bards7443]

@@cutekanjii Yeah but its not the 90s. Nobody gets pushed up against the dressing room wall these days and telt "we expect to win every game". Battle fever doesn't exist any more.

[@ryanstewart850]

Good show guys. One of the main things that stick out to me in these games is that Celtic’s CBs know they can squeeze the game as high as they want as we don’t have an out ball. Dessers gets rag dolled constantly by Scales and Carter Vickers, he can’t hold the ball up, he also isn’t good enough to drop in like Kyogo does and link the play and he can’t run in behind them either as he has no pace. It means it’s so easy for them to dominate us and get at our back four who can’t handle their attackers

[@DanThomo]

Probably difficult for him with 0 support to actually try hold the ball up, constantly pressed by their two CBs. We still play as if Alfredo is up front with his ability and strength in hold up play even under a Manager with 0 affiliation to him. Mind boggles.

[@TheMasterblaster32]

Correct this is the way

[@leth9320]

Continuing to play Tav against Maeda is criminal. We get the same result every time.

[@matthew_jw1318]

I agree with this argument, but he would do the same Sterling or whoever is played there.

[@leth9320]

@@matthew_jw1318 Sterling is quicker and has more heart than Tav. in defence.

[@TheMasterblaster32]

Continuing to play any players against the machine is pointless, he just presses all over the park lol.

[@JohnlivesontheIsleofMannow]

The problem is mentality think he’ll need to get the shrinks in sorry positive thinking people, the way Gerard did but I think we’re too predictable in how we lay out and where the weak point are, I can tell you right now how Celtic will play against us on Jan unless the gaffer grows a pair and drops some players.

[@indigo8021]

Mentality is such a sore point for us; we’re powderpuff. The game’s won a week before the baw’s kicked.

[@neilmclean4439]

Good show guys. Where is the leadership coming from? That's my concern

[@TheOrval]

If we press high, they pick us off. If we don't press, then they just peg us back and it's wave after wave of pressure. Bottom line is we are absolutely pish.

[@Char1872-b8e]

Levels. We are 10 levels below them

[@colincameron3885]

Great points about the inconsistency of the press upfront and the lack of support by the wingers when the transitions happen, PC needs to address this ASAP as others will see it too. Enjoyed the pod. 🔴⚪️🔵😎

[@robertrowan8738]

the tactics were shocking, high press leaving us vulernable to counter attacks, spaces all over the place for there fast attacking player. we looked really bad. Losing possession and bad passing.The cup final game different tactics stronger midfield and closed Celtic down, they only created 3 chances we created more and missed them. The players are nowhere near as bad as we think they are. You have to get the tactics and team selection right game by game,

[@Char1872-b8e]

Clement is Clueless. Stop denying the obvious

[@chomskybhoy]

Never saw an opening ten minutes of a game be analysed as much as Sunday’s was. I think the guys on this channel are very fair but to use the first ten minutes as some sort of comfort blanket is clutching at straws. The two chances were both offside. Your pressing was unsustainable and once broken it was game over

[@DanThomo]

I don't think it's a comfort blanket I think it's an understanding that after a bright spell Celtic do what they do, our heads go & guys like Mcgregor are presented with a walk in the park because all the ideas of suffocating him went away entirely. More of a hit on our mentality in comparison to Celtics.

[@liamdevine8063]

You all seem to forget that the first manager to press with two threes was Murty at Hampden and his team were uniquely destroyed. Gerrard's press (in reality Beale's, as he coached it) worked because the organisation, underatanding, intensity, aggression - all moreso than the shape.

[@Notalwaysrightbutmostly]

It’s criminal that half our outfield players are left stranded with one pass

[@Crashawsome]

There has been way too much of this "we were great for 10 minutes". I could run a marathon, sprint top speed for first 100 metres, then talk about great I was for those first 100 metres. The conversation should be "We started well, and then....". To split the game in 2 is just a bad look. Every game of football is the same - one team always has a bit of pressure

[@cutekanjii]

Yeah, I mean the big dope himself famously said of the season, it's a marathon, not a sprint. Yet he doesn't have the same attitude about a game of football... it's 90 mins, NOT 12! It doesn't matter one jot if you were any good in the first 12 minutes of you lose the match. Doesn't matter if you're the best team for 88 mins, but it's still 0-0 and the other team score 2 goals in the last 2 mins. Plenty of matches you see Motherwell or Hibs get off to a good start vs the old firm for the first 15 20 mins, but how often do they keep it up for the entire game? So Clement is just making a complete fool of himself contradicting himself, and to be quite honest, it's alarming the naivety of it. It's like something a person who was very unfamiliar with professional football would come out with.

[@Char1872-b8e]

Started well because Celtic allowed it to work out our strategy. Did so and shortly afterwards scored a screamer they said was offside. The still images plastered everywhere shows NO offside. They easily put 4 past us.

[@johnlayden1815]

Celtic reacted to Rangers' tactics after 10 minutes. Rangers didn't react to Celtic's changes and were then overwhelmed so whatever the original game plan was went out of the window and spent most of the rest of the game back peddling. The defence is too slow and the forwards not committed enough to play a high press for 90 minutes, That was emphasised at the offside goal.

[@Char1872-b8e]

Celtic ALLOWED us to play that first 10mins so they could work our game plan out. They done it and BOOM.. goal. They never allowed us to play after that.

[@kokki2008]

Thanks for sharing your insights and expertise. Very interesting.

[@JDougieS96]

What tactics they were all over the place and they were out for a doddle very little second effort

[@BroonyB]

Rangers problem for years has always been lack of pace. I think Clement is bringing in young players with pace which is good news but still a bit away from the “rebuild” I.e he’d like to replace Dessers, Lawrence, Tavernier with faster players.

[@DavidGuthrie-nw9js]

This was very interesting lads, really enjoyed that.👍

[@Deadduckd3194]

Clement is incapable of altering his tactics pure and simple, always same formation, not all these players are pish

[@saulgoodman2278]

All the players are total pish and Clement is Clueless! 😅😅😅

[@robertrowan8738]

cannot believe how bad his tactics are.

[@stephencruickshanks3794]

Tactics? Aw...you mean hoof long diagonals up the park & chase it?

[@ronniehouston282]

Gerrard only had one style of play too. His teams had a bit more fight though

[@Char1872-b8e]

@@ronniehouston282 The support were shouting for Gerrard to be sacked the week before covid hit. Took 3 years a pandemic and Celtic to implode for him to win ONE trophy. That is a FAILURE.

[@Michael19841]

A high press was an odd tactic against a Celtic side with great pace on both wings. It’s the worst Rangers side I’ve seen since the John Greig years. Allowing good players to leave under Bosmans have left Rangers financially crippled. I can’t see any players in that side who could be sold for more than a few million and that’s the better players I’m referring to.

[@rangersnut]

Why do we seem to lack the capacity to learn from our mistakes? Why aren't players coached to address these issues we see in the Rangers v Celtic games? The thing that stands out to me the most is why have 3 different Rangers managers failed to set up to counter Celtics tactics? Its fine being arrogant and going toe to toe directly when the quality is there but we don't have enough. Why dont we try something different to get the result? I would be keen on having 3-5-1-1 and trying to stifle their midfield service and hit them fast on the counter. All these managers that have a fixed system, thats all well and good but when the system isn't unlockingnthe other team, you have to change it, at least until you can up your teams quality.

[@jamesreid9232]

What went wrong was that they entered the field

[@tomkenyon3721]

When there is no money to correct this situation there won't be any improvement in the quality of the team and Celtic will continue to pull ahead season after season.

[@tomkenyon3721]

Deservedly so...Hail! Hail!

[@F217-o3r]

Can we do a 'review' of Hibs 1st goal in the 2016 cup final? Notice anything familiar? Maybe the penny might drop? Regards - our right back.

[@Reilly_007]

Celtic love it when we play with high fullbacks. What we should do is keep our fullbacks at the back and keep our three forwards up top. Don't track back, and it will force Celtic's fullbacks to ease their attacks. Then we can build up play through the middle. If Celtic plays with high fullbacks, then they will be exposed with our forwards not defending.

[@cutekanjii]

I'd play a 5-3-2 like we used to play under Walter in the 90s vs celtic in some games. Make us hard to beat. I know we don't have the players we had then. Not the quality of defenders. However, it would at least protect us a bit. It's the worst Rangers squad I've ever seen even the caxhina and warbarton eras as those were what you'd expect really for a team just come up from the championship trying to re-establish itself. A weak squad made even weaker through injury and yet Dopey Dome can't work out its best to just try and sure up the back and hopefully start to frustrate them & their fans and maybe nick a goal.

[@Char1872-b8e]

@@cutekanjii yeah park the bus just like all the rest. Is that what we've become? Suppose desperation will make you do all sorts of things.

[@dmore]

I don't think they do. If you compare Tavernier vs Maeda to Jefte vs Kuhn it's night and day. Tavernier's high, inverted movement forces Maeda to track back to help defend, whereas Jefte, who rarely pushed past the halfway line gave Kuhn the run of the left side. You can see it in their average positions, Maeda's is around the half way line and in, whereas Kuhn's is high up and wide. Celtic targeted the left side heavily in the first half, getting their joy with their cut back. We've not got the players yet to be able to build through the middle. That's a part of the problem. With what you're suggesting all the space would be in the mid-wide area, so there'd be no way to attack as the middle would be full and there'd be no one out wide 🤷🏻‍♂ Celtic would attack regardless as they have much more confidence.

[@johnkerr6114]

Ask clement why we are geting out thought and out fought and out ran every game against them when he said his teams are the fitess fastest and all that what has happened then

[@Char1872-b8e]

Clement is Clueless and making fools out of the support. Or trying to.

[@rangersnut]

No player worth their salt in any team should be getting a game if they need another player to be an insurance policy for them.

[@jamesglasgow656]

I thought Rodger’s set a trap and we fell into it, when Celtic got goal chalked off all 3 strikers I’m sure we’re in front of all,our defenders who were toeing a caravan and imo our lads got spoked by their pace and sat a bit deeper and the gaps became massive between our defence midfield and attack

[@Char1872-b8e]

No.. Celtic allowed us the ball for first 10 minutes to work out our strategy. Look what happened when they did. They put FOUR by us easily. EASILY.

[@jimbrown1061]

Last time I was this bamboozled was back at uni attending my first econometrics lectures 😵😁

[@multipleman78]

You said the Dessers chance early on isn’t in the stats as linesman flagged. The replay showed he would have been onside. Do we know how high the chance scored on XG? What do chances right in front of goal from 10 yards normally get?

[@matthew_jw1318]

What replay you watching ha If Kyogo's toe nail was offside, Desser was a country mile off.

[@multipleman78]

@@matthew_jw1318 Scales back leg was playing him on. And it was Kuhn not Kyogo.

[@badly_dubbed2401]

The fans hold this club back with their incessant moaning and critism of players and managers. The minute results and performances fall short of their inflated, entitled expectations. We are paying the heavy price for mismanagement and the overzealous pursuit of success. We have basically set ourselves back 5 years. We have no more of a squad than we did before Gerrard took over. None of this is Clements fault or anything to do with his tactics.

[@jtrfc442]

Whats this nonsense creeping into the game highlighting a player having so many 'pressures'. A player could have 100 'pressures' and not have a single effect on the game. A lot of nonsense. Huge difference between both sides. In possession celtic players run without the ball, making it easy for whoever is on the ball, compare that to rangers, nobody has the hunger or desire to do so. Static and rigid, easy to play against. Celtic know rangers wont keep the ball for more than 5 pssses due to lack of movement and options. They can pick their moment every time to win it back

[@stuzo666]

Great analysis, you guys should be giving advice to Phil n co

[@Dadopŕsoblueboots]

The 4/23/1 doesn't work

[@The_Blueyonder]

If you rely on statistics for support then 5 out of 6 Russian roulette players will tell you that it's safe.

[@pablobar6379]

Beale had a way better squad at least

[@bobdublin825]

So this is why we need a change of staff on the field.

[@elite1189]

But what about alex rae use wanted him sack alex and bring in bazza

[@patmccarthy361]

Celtic will only get better.

[@Char1872-b8e]

I believe Celtic will have the title won by December and STILL come to Ibrox 2nd Jan and bury us. Just because they can. But rangers fans don't want to admit that. But it's going to happen. They'll make an example of us to prove THAT GAP. I fear the worst

[@Secretcasual1]

I think the gaffer will be gone for Christmas

[@Char1872-b8e]

Probably. Because Celtic will have the title won by December and STILL come to Ibrox 2nd Jan and bury us.

[@Andrew-dk8rl]

There's too much passivity and a lack of drive and commitment in this side. Matondo opitomises it. If you're pressing half heartedly hoping that a teammate can pick up the slack, they won't in a man marking scheme. There's players cruising hoping that someone else will take responsibility and ownership.

[@rangersnut]

Exactly. They do not run hard enough and concentrate and work hard enough for each other

[@X5one67]

Excellent discussion on tactics . Im celtic fan but ur breakdown analysis was really interesting to watch 👍 a good coach can make a huge difference .. bielsa turned virtually the same Leeds team to champions when he first arrived at leeds

[@davidbryce5533]

The McGregor fan club. Are you guys sponsored by Celtic.

[@Char1872-b8e]

McGregor schools every player who comes up against him in Scotland. Atleast be honest.

[@pablobar6379]

Caveat

[@ChubbBates-mh5xp]

Bet you wish you had big Ange at Rangers.COYS.

[@edwardkent]

The biggest problem at Rangers, is that nobody gets better once they arrive. The perfect example is Tavernier, if he had joined Celtic, he would have become a new Roberto Carlos and sold within 2/3 years for 25/30 million once he had become a better player, the guy is that good that with the right coaching earlier in his career at Celtic he would have ended up as captain at Real Madrid, I'm not a Rangers supporter, but for the life of me in the modern game, why do you suffocate talent ? Cantwell is a player than Grealish.. really

[@dmore]

Tavernier improved significantly over his time at Rangers. From when he arrived until seasons end 2022 it was completely an upward trajectory. It's true Rangers are not as good at selling players and indeed may also be true in terms of development. Tavernier could arguably be used as an example of the first, but certainly not the second.

[@edwardkent]

@@dmore No, he got a little bit better because he got older and more experienced, i think he scored a free kick in his first game,so that was always in his locker, he has always been a terrible defender, never improved and in recent years has got worse with lack of pace, probably the only Rangers captain that has ever been miles and miles away from playing for his country.

[@dmore]

@@edwardkent I'm sorry no, that's demonstrably false. The player who in 2022 owned the Europa League is not the same player who arrived at Rangers having played for NINE separate clubs with barely a goal or assist between them bar one productive spell at Rotherham. He developed significantly. His attributes can be tracked improving over time, including his defending until that peak when he began to regress as he aged and lost his pace. His conversation rates for things like free kicks improved as well. These are just static things you can look at one kick and tick off. You can't seriously think a player capable of the performances he gave over 2021-2022 is the same player that went through nine previous clubs with simply no one noticing him? As for the country note, context is king. Not only is he playing in a position England are especially strong in but during a period they as a nation are strong. He was reported as in the coaches standby list in 2022 when England had their sudden glut of injuries, but Southgate basically ignores Scotland so that was that. That aside plenty of Rangers Captains have faired little or not at all for their countries, most for similar reasons, top players in their positions and coaches who didn't rate Scotland. Stefan Klos was captain and nowhere near the Germany team. Amoruso had no caps and has talked at length about how he blames Trapattoni looking down at Scottish football for him not getting a call up. Paterson had no caps... I could go on.

[@camdenbhoy6192]

I dont mean this as the slagging team off, more of a reality check.. but i think rangers first 11 would struggle to get in our 25 man squad, sure odd player might / would but its not many ( if any) .

[@Char1872-b8e]

It's not slagging off it's being honest.