Ranking EVERY Neutral Special Animation in Smash Ultimate

[@MockRockTalk]

Thanks for watching everyone! This one ended up being a bit of a beast to try and wrangle in, hopefully the time resulted in something fun. Also just a heads up that even as long as the video is, a lot of stuff still got cut (the one that has come up most often in the comments is the charged version of Blurring Blade). I actually did look at essentially every alternate form in the game and excluded some of them in editing if they didn't change my mind at all. In retrospect this isn't as obvious to viewers as it felt to me and in the future I'll probably be a bit more consistent. Let me know what you thought! *Main channel:* kzbin.info *Twitter:* twitter.com/MrMockRock *Patreon:* www.patreon.com/mockrock *Twitch:* www.twitch.tv/mockrocktwitch *Teespring:* teespring.com/stores/mockrock *TimeBolt affiliate link* (excellent software I use to speed up editing on my videos, use code "MOCKROCK" for a discount): mockrock--timebolt.thrivecart.com/order-page/

[@Brion15]

Please make a video that goes in depth into banjos breegal blaster and include the technicality / usages if possible .

[@ListlessWither]

What about Cloud's limit Neutral B?

[@theperians]

Lol u should use Plucking Tuilps as background song its so good

[@supery.o.7249]

@@ListlessWither True

[@johndorsey7890]

I’ve been looking forward for this! I can’t wait until he covers down specials lol

[@Odyssey_Central]

For Steve I would’ve personally considered the fact that the blocks change how they look/sound on some stages, along with the mining noises. It’s a great detail that I think moves it up to A tier

[@jerryakatony5724]

I Agree

[@kir3795]

bias but yeah its cool

[@adv78]

Also the annimation accounts for mining in differents slopes and walls. Something we don't usually see because the only walls available are the stage itself

[@jellycore1316]

@@adv78 Good point! ^^

[@ezrel6477]

It's the one and only Odyssey Central! btw you have some of the best youtube content. #DryBonesForSmash

[@theturtleking2454]

One thing I love about sephiroth neutral b is that the full charge dims the screen and even lowers the volume of the music. I don’t know of any other move that does that but it really emphasizes that there is a nuclear bomb you should probably pay attention to about to go off.

[@Stupididiot-ci5gf]

It's just so POWERFUL! Probably my favorite move in the game and what Sephiroth needed to really feel like a playable boss character.

[@eleeuroandoro3041]

Cloud's Limit moves do that too

[@UsernameTheName]

As an Isabelle main I love the fact that it does all that just for me to pocket it and for it to have no payoff

[@trollge3712]

@@UsernameTheNamecringe

[@shadowsableyexd2660]

Kirby wearing Ness's hat backwards is a reference to the Yo-Yo copy ability in actual Kirby games, same reason his Link hat wasn't changed to BOTW Link!

[@empressfrozentoes5285]

and it's because kirby's cool and needs to wear the hat as cool as possible

[@mann-nova9392]

Yeah but Link has less of an excuse since there's two more with almost the exact same hat

[@fchef8370]

I would have adored the Ness hat if Kirby got a random bandage on his face.

[@placeadrien5566]

Yes and the weird stance kirby takes when using bowser and charizard's fire breath are referencing the fire copy ability.

[@JMERKIS]

It also differentiates from Diddy's forward red cap.

[@bokobo6295]

Some stuff that didn’t get mentioned: - Palutena’s reticle is pulled straight from Kid Icarus Uprising, where it’s your main way of targeting. I only noticed this after playing Uprising, but it’s a fun detail - I never noticed Charizard drools onto the ground when he holds his mouth open for Flamethrower, gross! I like it! - The wire frame alt for Little Mac uses a much more retro sound, neat detail

[@ezrel6477]

I noticed that Palutena detail when I played SSB4 after playing uprising. Uprising is honestly one of my favorite games of all time.

[@firstwaddledee9182]

Actually Bowser and Ridley also drool lava for Bowser’s neutral special and Ridley’s forward smash

[@emanueltheodorus1056]

I also noticed Chrom's particle effect building up from the base of his sword all the way to it's tip when it's charged, indicating the power of it.

[@raffskid857]

Also mii sword fighters flaming sword thing can be charged

[@lordfourth4th164]

I noticed the drool while watching the vid. Was really wanting it to considerd

[@CrazyHand7894]

2:10:30 It's not just _any_ anime nonsense, it's a Kamehameha, which makes sense as both Hero and Goku are designed by Akira Toriyama.

[@stonebrick1562]

In other words. It’s THE anime nonsense

[@comboballer]

Or hadoken

[@rbexcess]

Amogus 👹👺👹👺👹🥵🥵🥵

[@JOAKO.GAM1NG]

He couldnt DI properly and is no longer among us 😔✊

[@FIamestalker]

I think the main reason Mii Gunner's Gun isn't as animated as the ones from the space animals is because Mii Gunner has many different costumes with very different gun designs, having to add (different) details to all of those would be so much work i can understand why they didn't. This might also be why Charge Blast spawns the projectile so far away from the gun, its to accommodate for the different designs and lengths of the gun in all costumes, it probably looks better on the costumes with longer guns

[@TheomanZero]

I was thinking the same thing, but that doesn't justify the positioning being even worse on Kirby.

[@ZX_STH]

The Gaster Blaster

[@A_Burrito_Toast]

The Glaster Baster

[@Baconator2558]

The Gaster Blaster.

[@mr.pibbeds9848]

It does look better on the ones with longer guns, but not all of them... the cowboy suit for example makes it look kind of weird

[@Justinr9171]

!TIME STAMPS! 1:01 Kazuya 3:09 ROB 5:21 Fox 6:33 Falco 8:03 Wolf 10:04 Mario 11:53 Luigi 13:03 Doc Mario 14:12 Wario 16:30 Palutena 18:29 Pit 21:09 Dark Pit 22:02 Simon/Richter 23:50 Marth and Female Marth 27:27 Roy 29:02 Chrom 29:51 Ryu and Ken 30:51 Captain Falcon 32:56 Ness 34:14 Lucas 35:26 Pyra 36:20 Mythra 38:57 Squirtle 40:07 Ivysaur 41:08 Charizard 43:02 Bowser 44:08 Yoshi 45:11 Sonic 46:56 Donkey Kong 47:59 Diddy Kong 49:11 K Rool 50:28 Ice Climbers 51:16 Game and Watch 52:33 Snake 53:52 Cloud 55:27 Sephiroth 58:07 Mii Brawler 1:00:57 Mii Swordfighter 1:04:25 Mii Gunner 1:08:13 Samus 1:09:52 Dark Samus 1:10:30 Zero Suit Samus 1:11:47 Ridley 1:12:45 Jigglypuff 1:13:40 Ike 1:15:23 Byleth 1:17:02 Robin 1:19:41 Corrin 1:22:12 Terry 1:23:33 Olimar 1:25:20 Villager/Isabelle 1:27:18 Pikachu 1:27:43 Pichu 1:28:48 Sora 1:30:25 Link 1:31:39 Young Link 1:33:20 Toon Link 1:35:04 Mega Man 1:36:43 Peach 1:37:20 Daisy 1:38:31 Min Min 1:38:52 Steve 1:40:19 Zelda 1:41:42 Sheik 1:43:30 Ganondorf 1:45:30 Greninja 1:46:52 Incineroar 1:48:26 Mewtwo 1:50:31 Lucario 1:54:07 Bayonetta 1:55:33 Little Mac 1:57:32 Wii Fit Trainer 1:59:28 Rosalina and Luma 2:01:18 Inkling 2:02:38 Piranha Plant 2:03:40 Shulk 2:06:50 Pac-Man 2:08:26 Joker 2:09:53 Hero 2:12:13 Banjo and Kazooie 2:13:36 Bowser Jr. 2:15:19 Duck Hunt 2:16:23 Meta Knight 2:18:07 King Dedede 2:19:11 Kirby

[@boonanaman7]

you sir, are a level above us mortals

[@randomOTHERSTUFFtuber]

this only has 61 likes WHAT

[@Da_FB]

as a min min main...

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

For shulk's sword blade vs hand for buster and smash art, my interpretation is that for smash art, he's not powering up the blade itself, just swinging it with more power. Thus higher knockback, and it affects his hands. With buster, he makes the blade itself more deadly, so it does higher damage, but there's nothing different about his swing, so no extra knockback. It's like if you swung a baseball bat. Smash art makes him stronger so he can swing the bat harder, so his hands. Buster art is like attaching spikes to the bat so it does more damage.

[@jonathanlgill]

It also helps the opponent--Smash is clearly the most threatening Monado Art they have to play around, and having the red glowing on his fists makes it very clear that he's in Smash Art.

[@joey5745]

I just made this comment but I think you explained it way better,

[@adv78]

Also Buster Art in XC directly affects the Monado too, being an special attack that makes it bigger and does a lot of dmg, so buster "buff" is canonically in the sword itself. Tbh i would prefer if the Speed glow was in his legs while Jump in his feet so they would be all different, would make more sence too, since running fast is much more associated with leg strenght than feet.

[@informationnotavailable6433]

This is actually really good explanation that makes a ton of sense, and I never thought of it. Thank you.

[@Night_ssbu]

This interpretation Is not technically correct. What the mondo does is that it changes the physics and the properties of the universe so he is swing the blade the exact same way in smash art but the the that is changing is the universe itself making it do more knockback and less damage

[@MoonGhostDoodles]

MockRock: I'm not going to complicate myself by evaluating Min Min's Neutral Special for this list. Also MockRock: *Let's rank ALL of Kirby's Inhale Neutral Specials!*

[@abcluigi21]

Who would you rather talk about for longer: Kirby or Min Min, I’m just sayin

[@jcplays5831]

Link’s bowstring pull grip is used for compound bows. This is used to pull the bow even further back since compound bows have string on flywheels. It’s basically showing Link is pulling the bow back for even more power

[@brandonlee8123]

I know nothing about archery, but just from looking at the more sideways angle of the bow, i feel like aiming would be easier with link’s grip.

[@RadiantBlaze]

@@brandonlee8123 Not really, aiming isn't really done with the drawhand, it's just power as JC Plays said

[@edmpunkfire7793]

Yeah, I had experience with compound bows and you have to really pull back to give the shot more power

[@lasercraft32]

Weird because Link doesn't use a compound bow... and he also doesn't do that in the actual Zelda games either, even in Botw.

[@jcplays5831]

@@lasercraft32 I do see that, but this is a video game with video game physics. Link’s bow is able to stretch an unrealistic amount, so why not give him the bow grip that gives the shot some of the most power

[@treese_]

Fun fact: Wii Fit Trainer's Sun Salutation is unique in that it is the only move in the entire game that deals "Solar" damage, which is an on-hit visual effect similar to fire or lighting attacks, only instead it surrounds the opponent with those little circular lense flares.

[@ethanhowe768]

I'd love to see a ranking of the idle animations. I always loved the amount of character that can be conveyed in the moments where you aren't even playing the game.

[@ElecManEXE]

I agree that would be great. It's rare to see idles in a game like this where there's rarely a reason to just not be doing something.

[@amaze_z1953]

Jigglypuff: 😰

[@ethanhowe768]

@@amaze_z1953 Steve: 😐😑😐

[@TheThirdPrice]

@@ethanhowe768 you're right, S tier

[@andymcclurg9916]

Sonic: ...

[@Moon-nk3co]

Hey MockRock. I don’t know if you know this, but the Hexagonal design of Lucas’ PSI is in reference to how Mother 3 does its PSI attacks. It’s kind of carried over for the two of them. I also really liked how you pointed out the design of Wolf’s blaster, didn’t realize it has a second hit.

[@ezrel6477]

The second hit does a lot for it, I consider it one of the best projectiles in the game.

[@mettatonex7221]

The melee attack on Wolf's firearm is a lot more obvious in Brawl, because in that game it looked like he was attacking just by pulling out the gun, where it doesn't come across as much in Ultimate.

[@kirbyfan6949]

Wow……that you would give Kirby THIS MUCH love at the end wasn’t what I expected. Your amazing for reviewing EVERY FRICKING ability

[@RoyalKingOliver]

2:19:12 Gosh he really went overboard

[@samanthashelly9947]

30:15 Not to be a super mega nerd but in Street Fighter lore it's explained that a Hadouken is not actually a fireball, instead it's pure force. It's essentially just a ranged punch, which is why it's always used basic hit sound effects

[@inertjohnjunk]

You missed the fact that Peach and Daisy's NSpecial animations are subtly different. Peach cowers behind Toad and looks up when it's done to see if it's safe again. Daisy on the other hand just covers her ears and stands back up as if nothing's wrong.

[@Empy_C.]

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[@1dayago843]

I believe you misinterpreted Wolf's recoil animation, it is in fact there it's just that he keeps the recoil energy into the blaster itself hence the huge swing up. The reason why Fox and Falco's body moves back a little is because they're holding the blaster steady so the recoil energy transfers into their body more just so they can keep their aim. Wolf uses the blaster's recoil to his advantage as he also uses it as an attack with the blade.

[@colecostie]

Also wolf's leg turns back with the blaster recoil to keep steady.

[@DecafPotato]

Three hours. Wow. Also I do agree that R.O.B.'s base level charge is more satisfying than his fully charged one, lol.

[@Mr_Mimestamp]

It continues to be inspiring to see how much effort you put into what you consider your “more casual” channel, seeing a nearly three-hour fully edited video here was totally unexpected.

[@Lyralovecraft]

Massive props for ranking all the inhale abilities, that seems like a nightmare. But it means we get to hear kirby's voicelines, so it's a win in my book.

[@adjectiveobject7686]

I don't know if anyone's said it, but I love Kirby's backward hat when he inhales Ness. It's a reference to the hat he gets for the yoyo ability in the Kirby games, which is in itself a reference to Ness' main weapon.

[@reritheguy6756]

1:17:25 "There's not really any diegetic indication of any kind if a different charge level is in there" There actually is! It's next to impossible to notice in a match, but the lightning bolt on the cover of the tome actually changes to match the icon of the same spell from FE Awakening! :O

[@Scouthedog1]

This video came out for the perfect time for me as I was in a hotel struggling for entertainment so I just pinned watched all of this though I was wondering why there was so much of the video left when you did the last character only to find out you were doing all the Kirby hats

[@dmign]

thanks for the unprompted blogposting.

[@MudFan]

Two things: Little Mac has a unique animation for when he uses his neutral B in the air, he awkwardly gets lunged with a shocked expression, it's amazing. Kirby's Bowser animation is a reference to his Fire ability.

[@browk2512]

I also really like how the whole world goes dark when sephiroth's gigaflare gets launched

[@CrazyHand7894]

I can guess who'll go into A or S tier: Captain Falcon, Kirby and King K Rool.

[@99wins31]

Falcon and Kirby are obvious

[@shanealic7426]

Captain falcon shit suck

[@minionmunch5610]

K Rool clearly

[@miles4100]

mewtwo gotta be S

[@davehollis5816]

@@miles4100 RIP

[@YaHomieScooty]

I always thought Toad pepper sprayed the opponent. The fact that he shoots out his own spores as a counter attack is pretty cool…and a little creepy

[@MockRockTalk]

I like the implication that real world self-defence weapons exist in the Mario universe you're going for though

[@stormRed]

Just so you know, you're definitely one of my favorite youtubers, and I watch a lot! Every single new video is like a little treat 😄

[@CheeseBlaster]

Kirby not changing impressions while using Giant Punch fits him so much because he has "not having a single idea of what's currently happening" feeling to him all the time

[@username3624]

Luigi’s fireballs could also be a reference to how the fireballs are in Mario Bros, where they’re both green in color and travel in an arc unaffected by gravity.

[@mattguy1773]

I love how Nintendo didn’t try to sugar coat jokers gun and just called it gun

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

I thoroughly disagree about corrin's dragon mask, I think how over-the-top it is perfectly suits the dragon abilities and because of that it's one of my favorite kirby hats. It makes him look like some world-destroying ball of death. It's a mess but I think that's kind of the point, to give off a bit of eldritch horror vibes. But that'll just be different opinions

[@anankos795]

I agree. Corrin’s pretty much the cronenberg of the roster, and I think that applying the dragon “helmet” onto Kirby highlights just how bizarre Corrin’s anatomy really is.

[@corrinfevincenohr]

@@anankos795 I also agree. The Corrin hat is one of the best if not the best Kirby hats in the game. The dragon form mask fits perfectly with Kirby and Im very happy they implemented the mask instead of hair. Also hello there Anankos. Been a while, fellow Corrin propagandist ;)

[@tehesprite502]

Especially given the final boss's design, it's 10000000% supposed to be eldritch horror vibes.

[@mettatonex7221]

I don't really like the design of the complete dragon transformation of Corrin, I think it has bizarre proportions, its limbs bend it weird ways, and its overall too scraggly to pass off as powerful as it is, plus it's missing a lot of the bits that are used from Corrin's dragon fang moves. I do think the head looks pretty cool, but I also see where Mock is coming from; my main issue is that it doesn't look like the head of a sentient being, more like the helmet that a Power Rangers villain would wear. If they were smitten with the general body type of full-dragon Corrin, I would have gone with a design more along the lines of Arceus or Dialga from Pokemon. Having said all of this, just from a purely visual and conceptual standpoint, I think Corrin is the coolest Fire Emblem character on the roster; almost all of her attacks involving the dragon fang are incredible looking, and her Omega Yato sword attacks aren't bad either. Personal favorites being her chainsaw-to-piercing stab Forward Smash, her graceful yet powerful wing bash Back Aerial, and her incredibly monstrous Dragon Fang Shot.

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

@@mettatonex7221 yeah your power rangers comparison is very accurate. And I understand not liking how scrawny the dragon form looks, although for me that’s part of the appeal, it makes it appear almost like a skeleton especially with the detached lower jaw which just adds to the weirdness and creepiness. Also, Im pretty sure the design is based on a Kirin, which is a mythological creature with elements of both deer and dragons. Which would explain the weird leg angles, they seem to be deer-like, as well as the horns on the mask. It’s a strange design that’s for sure

[@TheAntiburglar]

WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO NEW SERIES! Edit: as a classically and historically trained fencer in Italian and Spanish rapier (among other weapons) the Shieldbreaker animations hurt my soul :p Also I laughed aloud at the Falcon Punch XD

[@MockRockTalk]

Lol, I'd imagine it hurts you more than it hurts me. And it hurts me just fine.

[@art2norrman872]

Fun little detail about Shulk. The sound effect you hear when you switch from one Monado art to another when using the wheel, is the exactly the same sound that you can hear in Xenoblade chronicles when switching arts in battle UI

[@alaaiskamalji5064]

The fact that you went over every Kirby copy ability is why I always say you deserve way more subscribers. Thank you for your great work, my favorite KZbinr!!

[@OrigamiAhsoka]

I’ve always thought Luigi was doing a gun pose as if he was shooting off the fireball Also absolute mad respect for doing every single one of Kirby’s

[@diegovaldez927]

1:03:00 if you're wandering why does it do 14% it's because you can charge the move and it's basically like Pyra neutral b but stronger and only hits one side

[@marzipancutter8144]

It's more like Mythras, really, because you can also change the direction you attack at the end of the charge.

[@ElecManEXE]

One minor thing that really bugs me about Bowser Jr's cannon is that they didn't use the super distinctive "ba-Boom" cannon sound effect from the cannons in the airships of the Mario games or bullet bills. Even though they don't always use that sound effect in all the modern Mario games I think it would have added a lot of character to the move similar to Mario's fireball having the old-school fireball sounds from Mario games.

[@Baconator2558]

Odyssey actually has a very good rendition of it, which would have been a good fit.

[@celesteschott6030]

My one complaint with Hero's Kafrizz is that the lingering fire effects on the ground look like they should be dealing damage if an enemy touches them.

[@dextra_24703]

the grip link uses isn´t in breath of the wild, there he puts between the middle and ring finger while pulling with all four fingers in smash he uses the index and middle finger to pull the string back and yes he does it with his back of the hand towards the face in Breath of the wild aswell. also link is preparing to land with the forward foot first in the air animation.

[@Luigiofthegods]

8:21 "The bayonet causes damage" *damages Bayonetta*

[@LukasArailiys]

Greninja canonically does pull water from his “leg sacks” as you put it, but in his home game, he’s supposed to throw one at a time as a 2-5 hit move, not enlarge them in his hands.

[@wozaow]

Yeah, I think the giant ones are in reference to Ash-Greninja from both the anime and the Sun/Moon Special Demo, but even then you don’t charge them up.

[@LukasArailiys]

@@wozaow Not to mention that Ash-Greninja came out 2 years after Smash 4

[@plechtorix]

In the anime when Greninja uses Water Shuriken he sometimes put them together. The most notable time is when Frogadier evolves into Greninja in the anime.

[@Azurald55]

I feel like the emphasis on using it for this move was because Greninja is making a unique shape for the shuriken by imprinting it. It makes sense given how Greninja was added in smash as well as all his attacks besides neutral b weren't kunais.

[@Tahmis_Googboi]

Dang, what an incredibly thorough video. Absolutely worth every minute of its run time. Well done! Just a couple notes: - The charge-up to DK’s punch actually spins faster towards the end. It’s a nice touch in line with moves like Shuriken of Light that accelerate, but this is also how the move looked in, of all things, Subspace Emissary. The way DK swings his arm when he’s about to punch Diddy out of harm’s way is strangely reminiscent of this Ultimate animation in a way I love. - Kinda bothered by how much of Rosalina’s face is covered during her charge-up. I wish her body and head tilted backwards or more towards camera, so that we can see her one eye during more of the charge-up than just the very end. - In Xenoblade, Monado Enchant (which despite the name, seems to be what Buster is based on) is an effect placed on Shulk and his allies’ weapons, to let them cut through enemies their gear otherwise bounces off of. As a result, I kinda like Buster only lighting up the sword and not the hands, like Smash. - Kinda wish Kirby got plush Pikmin in the same vein as the plush Kazooie. Maybe for other moves, too? - Like you said about White Kirby with Robin’s copy ability, I think a couple skins kinda make it harder to look at certain animations. As cool as the Dark Link skins are, for example, almost everything is the same shade that it’s easy to look at it all as one blob. It’s also really easy to miss how Toon Link’s bow goes straight into his front foot this way, too. - Huge agree on Daisy. Why DIDN’T they give her a Shy Guy or something instead of Toad? Maybe make her look more like she’s sending them forward instead of cowering? - Not enough love given to the smooth animation transition from unshaved MockRock to shaved MockRock. Very nice swap from one to the other, and the coffee mug on Frame 3+ really helps hide the missing facial hair. Good sound design on the sip, too.

[@marzipancutter8144]

There's only one kazooie, but there's plenty real Pikmin and Lumas so I don't think they need to be plushies on Kirby. would be a nice touch though, since they die after use.

[@logangiddings7166]

Mockrock: Says the word "Sorry" during the intro. Me: Is violently reminded that he's Canadian.

[@joey5745]

I work with a Canadian, the dude can’t go five minutes without saying it, lol

[@maxblack2347]

Love that Kirby practically goes into the splits when doing Roy's and Chrom's neutral special

[@ngc_3877]

Something I noticed about Charizard is that there's a little drool effect where small droplets drip onto the ground beneath his mouth if you look closely enough. Kinda gross, but also kinda cool I guess. Same with Bowser as well.

[@fight_and_die1573]

I think they’re meant to be sort of fire sparks? They seem to be coming from the flames not exactly dripping from their mouths

[@benro6564]

Jesus Christ 3 hour long video... Let's be honest Falcon should have his own tier. It is the most iconic move in smash and one of the most memorable in the FGC as a whole, and the fact that it was made without any source material is kind of a miracle. It rivals stuff like Akuma's raging demon in how badass it is. Fatality (the best Ultimate Falcon) once said that even though Falcon punch sucks he wouldn't trade it for anything

[@willy.b2419]

Ew, another Bowser main

[@airlock7367]

A couple points of kirby hat trivia: -There's actually a character who wears that exact Lucario hat in Pokémon Battle Revolution, so that's a pretty nifty touch -The plush/hand puppet Kazooie is actually also seen in Banjo-Tooie, where it's used in multiplayer versions of the minigames; for the FPS-mode ones, it's what characters other than Banjo use in lieu of a live Kazooie to shoot eggs with (also, I feel like that thing Greninja is doing -- which also a canon animation -- is less actually drawing water from its legs than just mimicking the motions of a ninja pulling shurikens out of their pants)

[@PaBlo-jk4hv]

I've always thought that the shurikens came from those star shapes in its legs

[@lasercraft32]

The shurikens DO come from those star shapes, but in actual Pokemon, Greninja just shoots multiple water shurikens instead of it being a charging thing.

[@GohTheGreat]

As one of two swordfighter mains, Blurring Blade can be held for a stronger startup/chamber animation

[@odysseysfortune537]

Leaving comment for the algo. I LOVE this series, so interesting to watch the little details they put into such critical parts of the game. And when I realized that only three characters were left, that there were 30 minutes left, and that one of those characters was Kirby… Can’t believe you actually ranked them all, didn’t even notice how cute Kirby sounds making those voice lines. Wonderful work.

[@vikingswirlix6947]

I really hope this becomes a long-standing series. It's SOOO good to just put on in the background and chill with while I write or work.

[@skyslasher2297]

25:58 It might be because they are using different weapons Marth is using a rapier Lucina is using broad sword user trying to pull off a rapier stab a maneuver that will require more effort thanks to the weight of the sword.

[@matlotl]

You forgot about the pits' aiming upwards! It transitions between the sideways and upwards positions well and is just fun to mess around with midmatch. Also, why gunner's cannon doesn't have any flaps or steam etc. moving is likely cus the cannon changes per costume, and none of them share the exact same features so they have to go with a default "no extra animations" sadly. Would look odd if cuphead's finger started smoking from flaps that don't exist, you know?

[@arthurvergolino6859]

roy's feet pretty much serves as a indicator point to where the explosion willa ctualyl take place. its why it is stretched out like that, so the player can know that the hitbox is a bit more pushed forward compared to the other moves of the character that have pretty close hitboxes. its also the reason why he holds his feet like that in the air. looks a bit unnatural with the step back? yea. makes sense, if you consider he is meassuring his reach? also yes.

[@JacobPDeIiNoNi]

Another thing you didn't mention for ridley is the special animation that happens if you hit him out of it, I'm curious to know your thoughts on that

[@Moss_Dude]

41:20 I JUST NOTICED WHEN CHARIZARD DOES FLAMETHROWER IT LOOKS JUST LIKE THE BEHIND SPRITE FOR SOME OF THE GAMES!!!

[@The_Slickmeister]

If I may give one piece of advice, it would be to add more tiers. Having more choice in where to put characters, makes it easiers to understand where the characters truly deserves to be, instead of it being crammed in with a hundred of other characters in B tier

[@DoMorrMusic]

For his neutral special, MockRock wields Talk. Which becomes Gun when subscribed.

[@MotherBurrito]

lol what did bullet seed do to this man. all jokes aside I love this series, it feels like peak game dev appreciation hours and it makes me realize how much love was put into even the tiniest poses and movements. I would love to see Back Airs, it’s such an odd move that every character uses differently and I could see that being really fun to analyze!

[@vo117man]

1:51:15 Perhaps the designers of Lucario's animation chose him to have a preferred side is relative to actual fighters being either orthodox (right hand dominant), or south paw (left hand dominant), with Lucario being partially a Fighting Type and the only fighting type playable Pokémon in Smash. In this case, Lucario favors an orthodox stance. Maybe a further analysis on his attacks can help clarify how well this theory holds up.

[@dextra_24703]

the animation of greninja touching the crosses on the legs happens even in pokemon if you look at the animation in gameplpay with the bad camera cuts, in the anime i think its sometimes ignored for the sake of animation, there he also charges it by just pure willpower in the champion finals match.

[@mbot1901]

1:03:47 Just wanted to point out here that this move is chargeable and I wanted to know if you had just forgotten about it or just found it not important enough to comment on? Either way I love this video, especially as an aspiring animator and smash fan Edit: 1:05:52 I'd imagine they didn't bother animating the default gun option when the character's outfit is fully customizable Edit 2: Very specific detail but I really like how when villager takes an Item out of their pocket and not a projectile they'll do the same animation from animal crossing, its just very cute Edit 3: 1:45:56 This is actually an odd detail lifted from the anime but Greninja actually makes the water shurikens in the shape of the shuriken pattern on its legs, not the sacs of water, so basically Greninja's using them as a mold. Either was it's super cool looking Edit 4 (holy crap this comment is long wow sorry): Another really cool detail I want to point out is for mac's KO punch, during the wind up, it almost looks like he might be feinting a straight punch and then coming in for the uppercut at the last second which is not only really cool if true, but also explains why it goes through shield

[@nukeswithken5718]

Loved this, wasn’t expecting the Kirby section to be so robust, so I had a good laugh with it. I always like seeing Mockrock’s analyses, can’t wait for the next one

[@Moss_Dude]

I showed the greninja water shuriken part to my brother and he reminded me that Greninja pulls the shurikens from his legs in the anime! He just slaps his legs and yeets!

[@jswayne7546]

As someone who goes into Training Mode just to look at animations, I would love to see this as a series.

[@empressfrozentoes5285]

regarding failnaught, it's unique in the fact that it has some kind of muscly substance on it as well as being dragon bone, allowing for bow function, so it is actually just a bow oversight lol

[@bsg-jay7093]

The simple Mii Gunner Laser is probably more because of all the costumes they can wear.

[@aqua_serene]

1:56:11 I was gonna say Mac's arm being bigger made sense but then I realized it was his left arm and he does his attacks with his right.

[@silikerYT]

No mention of gigaflare darkening the screen? that's my favorite thing about it

[@meta4knight]

I think back throws would be really cool, they often have really strong animations. Krool back throw is amazing

[@chickensquared140]

Dark Samus better be getting a high tier. That animation looks absolutely immaculate

[@alexskiles5859]

This is far from my first time watching this video, but this is the first time I’ve noticed that when he was talking about the bayonet on wolf’s blaster bayonetta was the one on screen with him. It’s not that substantial, but I’m surprised to see nobody else pointed it out.

[@arciabrats5897]

I'm pretty Luigi's L finger is actually him snapping and pointing for his fire ball to attack, kind of like he's commanding it to go forth.

[@Andreecals]

I think you should've mentioned how ridley's plasma breath has an animation for when he's interrupted during the charge, which is taken from the original games and is super interesting! Still watching though, what a behemoth of a video!

[@cloudx8015]

For Mythra, while charging the move, you can see ether lines become more visible on her body as she charges the moves. They’re more noticiable on her legs if you’re using a skin with darker leggings. Dunno why they didn’t do something similar for Pyra.

[@Night_ssbu]

It's because lighting buster is mythra's level 3 special in the game for all level 3 specials you can see the ether lines on the blades you can see the ether lines on her side b blazing end which is her level 3 in the game

[@angeldude101]

This was ripped from from the original game where the ether lines show up for all level 3 and 4 specials, which means Mythra's neutral-B, Pyra's side-B, and their Final Smashes. I love that they included this touch in Smash. It's extremely subtle, but it just adds that little extra bit of uniqueness to go with their more sci-fi aesthetic compared to other sword fighters. There's also a shine attached to the sword's Core Crystal, aligned with its orientation which gets more intense the longer the attack is charged, which I also love.

[@jaredparks4713]

Funny you mentioned Sora's voice acting, the voice clips they used are from Dream Drop Distance and IMO those are his worst voice lines by a huge margin.

[@MaxJFT]

I absolutely love how there's a liquid dripping from charizard's mouth during flamethrower

[@MrBda241]

Amazing video, love the dedication that went into this. Have you considered doing a video about the character's victory screen? I believe it would be fun, though it would rely on you knowing each of the characters personality, history (w/ Game history too) and the likes.

[@girlsaysripbozo]

I'm interested to see how he ranks the Miis in this one since they have 3 neutral specials. In my eyes none of the Miis have fantastic ones so I'm not expecting any (except Brawler for having Falcon Punch number 3) to be better than C unless points are given just for having three animations Edit: Also I appreciate how on Wolf's gun, with the bayonet, the enemy chosen was Bayonetta

[@FirethornYT]

I think he picks Random most of the time for the NPC's

[@TheLuluBoyo]

The sound of your absolutely tired voice with the deep-fried effect explaining Inhale going into S-Tier both scared me slightly and made me bust out laughing. Absolutely hilarious way to end the video. Awesome video in general, keep up the awesome work!

[@goobplayzgames8358]

I’m a little surprised you didn’t seem to know mii sword’s blurring blade can be charged, but I honestly don’t think that’d change the ranking much, it just feels a little punchier and that’s kinda it

[@Novum228]

My only criticism for the special series is that you sometimes use either ONLY the ground version, or ONLY the aerial version

[@techno_217]

I always appreciate the high effort put into these videos, and the content is great

[@arojamthearbiter]

The whole Kirby segment at the end was one of the greatest things I've ever seen in a video

[@opal8434]

I believe Kirby's baseball cap being backwards after inhaling Ness is intended to be a reference to the Wheel ability from his home series, where he similarly dons a backwards baseball cap.

[@Mark---W]

Sephiroth neutral Special is just something Godly anime like attack.

[@WolfBergMenace]

Meta Knights Tornado turns Gold (or Orange, as you said) because its supposed to be a lot of quick, spinning cuts with his golden Sword, I imagine.

[@EricKingOfScots]

MockRock has a bad take on warlock punch? What else is new? (No disrespect meant. I love your content, I just think you're drastically off on your Warlock punch take) Also fun fact: Shadow Ball has actually always been associated with Mewtwo. Its introduction to the franchise was in pokemon the first movie when Mewtwo used it in its fight against Mew.

[@mr.cereal599]

Kirby's backwards hat as Ness and the one-footed pose when he uses Bowser's fire breath are both references to copy abilities in Kirby (yo-yo and fire respectively).

[@nicholasho1595]

For Marth and Lucina, their only differently animated moves are their neutral and down specials I believe. So you only need to look at them separately one more time, unless you want to compare hair physics, voice lines, or sword particles (obviously gameplay wise they’re different).

[@SoggySlopster]

Pretty sure their down specials are the same

[@theillusionist1494]

They actually do have different particle trails on the arcs of their swords on a lot of their animations, to indicate Marth’s tipper effect. It’s most notable in forward air, up air, and side b, but it’s there for pretty much all their moves. But yeah, in terms of the actual model animations, neutral and down b are the only different ones as far as I’m aware.

[@nicholasho1595]

@@theillusionist1494 i did mention sword particles.

[@nicholasho1595]

@@SoggySlopster they’re not surprisingly. Lucina uses her pose from her up taunt, which has her hold it with two hands as opposed to marth holding it with one. A slight difference, but a difference.

[@theillusionist1494]

@@nicholasho1595 …You sure did. My bad, I apparently cannot read, lol

[@lostmosscostFAUST6671]

Watching mockrock rapid fire Kirby inhales is one of the best things I've seen on KZbin. Followed by him being done for the night was also hilarious. Good stuff.

[@vexinsanity4876]

One thing I feel like could have been pointed out: When you discussed Daisy and Peach you didn't acknowledge the facial expression in the move. I know the move doesn't exactly fit daisy but when peach bunkers down she looks shocked and a little worried. When Daisy does it she does it in a much more exaggerated way by closing her eyes and she even keeps smiling I think. I think this does actually convey her personality a little bit more than you said, but ultimately I think your placement still stands.

[@INikeAir]

You my friend have convinced me to fully watch a 3 hour video and I don’t even have a switch. I commend you A true testament to your videos even if I don’t agree with everything 🙌

[@sirknightjcb9310]

For Incineroar, what sells me even more about the move is that (I think) it's the only move, in which its motion smear effects are different and respective to each of his colors. Red and black for Color 1, green and black for Color 2, etc. Overall, solid tier list.

[@lasercraft32]

R.O.B. also has unique motion smear colors for each of his palette swaps as well.

[@McBehrer]

2:17:45 It DOES become wings for just a split second at the beginning of the move, for some reason, but then it turns BACK into a cape.

[@grandmagertrude7676]

If Kirby doesn’t get an S then I will slap you through the internet

[@MorrisPXG]

In the Anime and Games,Greninja Pulls His Water Shuriken out of the Shuriken Shape on his Thighs when Using the Move(Except When he is in the Ash Greninja Form which Only throws His Back Shuriken only),But With Cut and Night Slash,He Usually Just form it with his Palm and the back (Showed With Frogadier Clearly in the XY anime) yes I am a greninja fan

[@xcrackervolleyx]

This likely doesn't push Mii Brawler up a tier, but I'm like, 80% sure that Flashing Mach Punch is based off of Zanretsuken, a move used by Ryo Sakazaki, a character from SNK who even managed to be added as a Mii Brawler costume released alongside Terry.

[@NeichoKijimura]

Two things 1) Kirby has a Jojo ability in kirby when he copies the robot the cap is backwards there iirc. 2) Kirby's kazooie is actually a stuffed kazooie toy.