Ranking Every Partner in Thousand Year Door

[@antant6217]

it's crazy that mario is so extremely overpowered that "make mario go again" is so unbelievably overpowered

[@armandoc2584]

I mean I’m glad he’s OP in his own game lol

[@FireRising86]

@@armandoc2584That’s why I love him

[@randomname285]

@@antant6217 I think it's less the case of Mario being overpowered and more the case that the partners are only there to supplement Mario's power rather than equal it

[@jacfac9969]

“Yoshi’s ground pound is a phenomenal attack” (shows footage of it doing zero damage)

[@Makithe2nd]

Shh, no need for everyone to know

[@phictionofgrandeur2387]

Vivian does the full damage with a failed action command, making her useful in action commandless challenge runs as well.

[@YoGibran]

Vivian is based

[@CR1MSONACE]

He did no action commands as the first challenge run for the channel.

[@phictionofgrandeur2387]

@@CR1MSONACE I know.

[@dragonslayermasterornstein83]

Just goes to show that she knows how to throw in a good punch and the action command is just her focusing magic on her fist

[@nascour5991]

I love her character but as a party member vivian sucks

[@Tneal78]

Goombella is literally 2 Marios. It's not even fair.

[@Spez_art]

Low on Star Power and fighting invincible, spiky enemies, and you don't want to lose the crowd or use items? Use tattle! You can get more star power from hitting a stylish tattle than spamming appeal

[@alancjmgmorales6420]

​@@Spez_artnless you use super appeal

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@Spez_art I'm still learning all the stylish timing, there's a stylish tattle?!?

[@soundabyss]

​@@gregvs.theworld451 yep, almost immediately after you land it, hit a again before she reads the stats off

[@gregvs.theworld451]

@@soundabyss Oh sweet, so it's a free one too. Noted!

[@aronthegreat2935]

I recognize Bombombast is extremely inefficient but tbh few things match blowing the entire enemy line to hell through a piss easy action command

[@caistigh2062]

Agreed. I still remember when I first played TTYD. Once I got Bobombast, which if you're a collector/explore the entire map type, is usually pretty soon, or immediately, after Keelhaul Key... I used it damn near every time I could, putting way more levels than was reasonable into FP. I was a kid and it was so damn cool. 10/10 move for nostalgia

[@Toadiferous]

In the remake I've opted many times to just run double Flower Saver P, 3 Power Plus Ps on Peril Bobbery, plus Flower Finder, just spamming Bob-ombast for like 17 damage to everything in the Pit lol. Never run out of FP either really cause I get so much back with Flower Finder. There are definitely way more efficient ways to do it but it's really just fun to mash A and watch him explode

[@vundesheart8835]

I actually had no idea about Bobbery's appeal clearing fog, thats so freaking cool lol. Great video!!

[@Joma-7663]

I know that you can do that if you uses his bomb attack, but not with his appeal move too :0

[@jacobdilldine7818]

Same!

[@user-1mc0n4us.ed-_-]

Is it true for the remake as well? Might need to find out by myself...

[@vundesheart8835]

@@user-1mc0n4us.ed-_- Yep, still true!

[@TorayNix]

​@@user-1mc0n4us.ed-_-it is

[@EeveeTheEevee]

One thing with goombella's tattle that maybe makes it worth C Tier If for some unbeknownst reason you don't want to do damage, but you're also not in danger, Tattle will still give you progress towards getting a bingo, so it's actually more useful than defending in that sorta scenario

[@DoctorFalchion]

Makes it an even better alternative to Appeal, since with a stylish you're getting both decent star power (though not as much) & bingo potential.

[@tech6hutch]

@@DoctorFalchionsomeone said it’s _more_ star power than an appeal. Dunno if true or not

[@specmoment3592]

​@@tech6hutchIt depends on the audience size, for big audiences attacks + stylish are better for star power, for small audiences appeal is better

[@zigazav1]

Infatuate was SO bad, that a mod for TTYD made it instead brainwash the enemy target into fighting with you as an ally, for that battle only

[@WindmillPunch]

What mod was that?

[@CR1MSONACE]

​@@WindmillPunchInfinite pit

[@WindmillPunch]

@@CR1MSONACE ah I've played infinite pit but wasn't aware of that change! I went in blind thinking most things were pretty similar to vanilla.

[@Etoilime]

@@WindmillPunch There's a lot of changes to characters actually! For exemple Ms Mowz is buffed, her slap does damage like Yoshi's Ground Pound and her heal is cheaper and heals 15HP! There's a couple other changes you can find on a PDF the creator made :>

[@WindmillPunch]

@@Etoilime Oh! I think i got her once but it didn't click as strange because my memory blended her slap and Bow's as being mechanically similar. I'm hoping the Switch version may have an infrastructure that makes it easy to mod.

[@BrandiReevesMusic]

"Yoshi's ground pound...PHENOMENAL attack" *proceeds to show clip of Yoshi doing no damage to an enemy with defense* xD

[@Clepto_and_Co]

Ms. Mowz's defense pierce not looking so bad now

[@seeforkat]

My yoshi only does 1 damage per pound, and I have no idea how to buff him

[@UltimatViolet]

​@@seeforkatGive him a few Power Plus P badges and he'll be shredding through most enemies

[@DiegoG2004]

@@seeforkat Power Lift, which you get the very chapter he joins. Power Plus P or P Up D Down P. Charge P even.

[@mistah3687]

Interesting thing about Koops: he’s the ONLY partner in the game with natural defense. It doesn’t change a lot about his ranking but it makes him situationally better than people think he is.

[@Xerroc22]

Exactly. It is why I use him so much early game. He has a natural 1 defense before guarding, and that says a lot about situational usage

[@aprinnyonbreak1290]

Eeeh I mean yeah, but he's also specifically vulnerable to flipping. I dunno the exact breakdown of pro vs con between these, but, if 1 defense is situationally nice, being flipped is situationally devastating

[@Alex-cc8yf]

Disadvantage of this is that he can lose that defense AND become unable to move when he's turned on his back

[@Robbie_Haruna]

One thing you definitely glossed over with Mini Egg is that it's the only move that hits more than twice in the game that *doesn't* lower the damage by 1 for each hit beyond the first hit, meaning on a single target it can actually outperform Ground Pound's damage in many scenarios.

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

Also debuffs.

[@sirGuy1995]

Yeah if you combine mini egg with an attack boosting ability, it can become quite the destructive force

[@SwellOctober]

"a Koopa with a hoodie in 2004 goes super hard" PREACH

[@phictionofgrandeur2387]

The partners were in alphabetical order, which is why Bobbery was first.

[@Davidk9292]

Then why was Goombella after Vivian?

[@mothuum]

Zoombella, my fav partner

[@phictionofgrandeur2387]

@@Davidk9292 I think I might be dyslexic, I didn't notice that.

[@jamesjackson3713]

That made me laugh harder than it should have ​@@mothuum

[@McBehrer]

Ah, yes, alphabetical. Bobbery Flurry Koops Ms. Mowz Vivian Yoshi zGoombella

[@DSteves]

Alright hold on, Flurrie i never used her until i tried her in the pit of 100 trials with FP reducers, and flower finder, and you literally can just blow all the enemies away in the 2nd half of the pit of 100 trials which are near the strongest enemies in the game. To add on to this, when I was casually doing a pre chapter 4 I found that flurrie can just outlive whatever Bonetail throws out without doing any grindy badge stacking (power rushes) just use like lip lock on spam and sweet treat with Flurrie in front and Mario in the back and both of them will NEVER die. To note I did do this in the remake and not the original but I found tons of niche use out of her lol

[@nukawave-um7iu]

Flurrie is excellent, too underrated based on this list

[@JonGoobear]

One could argue that Yoshi's Gulp is S tier because it's the only required move to beat the game 🙃

[@Bubsy-dz4df]

Yoshi could probably take on the shadow queen with the gulp ability

[@Loogus_Baloogus]

Love that Bobbery, the old geezer, is most useful as a meatshield.

[@miserirken]

he's built like a damn tank, i love him.

[@hypotheticaltapeworm]

I calculated the averages of each character's "score" according to the rankings of their individual moves. Basically, since there are 28 moves, I gave each move a numerical value (28 for the move at the top of S, 1 for the move at the bottom of F) and these are how each character fared: 1st place: Goombella (21 pts) 2nd place: Yoshi (20 pts) 3rd place: Koops (14 pts) 4th place: Flurrie (13.5 pts) 5th place: Vivian (13.25 pts) 6th place: Bobbery (10.25 pts) 7th place: Ms. Mowz (9.75 pts) Pretty much the same as your initial ranking, although I will say the drop from Yoshi to Koops is a lot steeper than I'd imagined.

[@matthewpopow6647]

Wow, with this there are 3 clear steps. 20+, 14-13 and 10-9. Amazing, situationally great and one niche use.

[@fiddlechrome]

surprised it remained consistent, that's the sign of a good tierlist

[@linksbro1]

So basically the one utility Ms Mowz has is guaranteeing any badges you find on enemies in battle, especially if two enemies have badges and you want both.

[@lukchem]

If think the extra character without the attack orb is probably supposed to be their over world ability.

[@bradyfrost2151]

Yoshi s tier nothing else matters

[@ColonelMustache]

I once did a full playthrough where I cheated in Ms. Mowz to have her in my party at the beginning, and exclusively used her for the whole game (in battle, anyway). You're right - in the very early game, Love Slap is a pretty decent alternative to Headbonk and Shell Toss. She's easily the best of the three at dealing with Clefts, for example. But she falls off pretty much as soon as you get Flurrie and start upgrading partners, at which point there's very few enemies in the game where Love Slap is the best option. I did actually wind up using Smooch a bunch near the end, because I had a surplus of FP.

[@CR1MSONACE]

How many badges did you grind for?

[@ColonelMustache]

@@CR1MSONACE none, though I think I got a couple Kiss Thief badges held by enemies early on that wouldn’t have been possible otherwise. I think I also got an HP Drain P as a random drop in the late game, not that I’d ever use it lol

[@jasonreed7522]

I feel like the only thing Ms Mowz brings is the ability to steal items from enemies, otherwise all your other partners are better for combat.

[@asherleviwoods6051]

No way I was today years old when I figured out that Koops' clothes is a hoodie and not a collar from a shirt!? I had this game since childhood haha His character got 100× cooler for me wow

[@ihavepissinmybrain]

I wish I had whatever you smoked for 20 years.

[@Sunchipkiller]

I thought the same thing lol Mandela effect I guess

[@Novarcharesk]

It doesn't look anything like a collar

[@lucky_kid_guy744]

Gulp should have been in F tier for all of the challenge exceptions it has caused.

[@MsCerealCat]

lol

[@QuasarBuasarEeveeTheUziFan]

Blame the Iron Adonis Twins, not Gulp.

[@Kurtlen]

I love how Tattle not only has use in casual play but has niche uses for challenge runners as well. Specifically allowing SP to be regained after Sweet Treat is used to basically make the move free and activating bingos during the Bonetail battle. It also has one of the easiest stylishes to hit in the game since you just mash A after executing the move which is nice for a move meant to be used by first time players.

[@clownplayer7265]

I dare to say even when replaying the game, Tattle is not useless since it brings the perma change in making sure the enemy will always show its HP. Even if you memorize the max HP, the human brain can still make blunders at counting invisible meters so having a reliable visible meter will always be welcome, especially since this is a turn based game so you can always ponder what will be the most effective move. Though some people feel more comfortable with no life meters but that would fall squarely into preference.

[@nickmiller3748]

I could be wrong but without using an appeal boosting badges I think goombellas tattle gives more star power with a stylish than the appeal command. This can be helpful since it won’t damage her or the target making it a slightly better way to star power without messing with the hp numbers of the target of you are trying to keep the target at a certain hp range or can’t hit due to being spiky

[@DarkKoopatrol]

IIRC Appeal restores more SP than Tattle by default, though I’m not entirely sure how SP restoration works and having a big enough audience or Toads might be enough to make it restore more SP than Appeal. However, if either Mario or his active partner is in Danger or Peril, stylish moves are given a huge boost that makes them restore way more SP than Appeal, so much so that Tattle is better than Headbonk overall in Prologue Pit type challenge runs IMO. That being said, it falls off a lot in the late game, not only because you get more options to damage high Defense enemies but also because you get more SP when you beat each Chapter, making the extra SP from Tattle matter less. It’s pretty hard to accurately rate this IMO, because it’s either really good or really bad.

[@Naito9874]

Appeal restores more SP than Appeal by default?​@@DarkKoopatrol

[@DarkKoopatrol]

I'm not sure what you're trying to ask, since you said Appeal twice, which I assume is a mistake.

[@subparcitrus5478]

@@DarkKoopatrolSo you can see that saying the same thing twice could be confusing? Oh the irony.

[@DarkKoopatrol]

@@subparcitrus5478 Oh.

[@Kappy0]

Respect going for something a little different over being just purely combat-focused. LOL. That being said, Shell Shield def being slept on a little :)

[@noahmcconnell5560]

The man! The legend

[@reecekountouri4510]

Flurrie is one of the single greatest video game allies ever how dare you

[@SirTyrin]

i have a challenge that might be fun to try, you can only use things found in the chapter to complete the chapter, you can only use the partner of the chapter, badges and items found in the chapter and anything that can be obtained at any time has to be 'assigned' to a chapter, meaning you can use danger mario strats, but only for one chapter, cause it would be silly otherwise

[@kostyaodnokonnyy4439]

Controversial opinion: Mini egg is a better Multibonk: Costs the same FP as Multibonk, Applies Shrink status most of the time, Doesn't lower your attack power by 1 with egg (as far as i remember), Hits anywhere, anyone, Scales incredibly with damage upgrades (with one Power Plus it goes from 4 to 8 damage). Everything i just said might be misremembered, because i havent played this game myself in a long time, so point it out please.

[@RadiantBlazeVA]

​@TP-pq9xxBut if there's only one enemy, the eggs will only attack them

[@IsuKen]

Having bias in your own list is totally fair. Yoshi is my favorite video game character, but I love Vivian in this game since she's so well written for a Mario character, and I always use her when I play this game even though I know other strategies would be better. Bow was my favorite in the first Paper Mario so I guess the series did a good job of making me like ghosts. (Or at least ghostlike entities.)

[@KrisMoreno-uk9to]

yoshi is the best lol

[@Dumbsparce]

They should buff Ms.Mowz’s love slap so it hits multiple times like Bow from paper Mario 64

[@TwoSmoove]

In the remake, it "hits" multiple times, but only the last slap does damage. I only know this because of the secret boss that was added.

[@mr.dedede1324]

Yeah but a ground pound from yoshi that pierces defense. Game breaking.

[@Breezeezee]

I do actually quite like shell shield. I recently did a 5 health danger Mario challenge (inspired by your videos!) and when one missed super guard means death, having a barrier is extremely useful. Not to mention that if you DO hit the superguard, the shell doesn't take damage, so it's great insurance.

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

Shell shield is fun for early game charge Mario. I typically use it to cheese Grodus in the Boggly tree. 5 turns of charging while hidden in a shell before finishing with a power bounce is entertaining. Mario never gets hurt.

[@Madchimpz]

That's the thing, partner and badge effectiveness greatly depends on what kind of challenge run you're doing. I personally like doing no items, so stuff like happy heart/flower, pity flower, FP drain, etc is nice to me.

[@BigBossMan538]

That’s good to know. I’ll give that a shot. I remember shell shield helping me a little against Rawk Hawk (I had quick change so I wasn’t using Koops the whole fight).

[@Johnjohn-lg1te]

shell shield > veil any day. you dont waste a complete turn and it actually stays for more turns (especially if you hot super guards). also it is good on "danger builds" (exceptional for those who arent that much confident that can survive with 5hp mario by continoously super guarding). also, for defense builds, dodgy fog on mario with all the dodge badges and flurrie using lip lock to get huge hp back every turn are very viable. you can defeat bonetail like this by outsustaining him. but overall, great video and i get where your opinion is coming from. i agree to all the rest and most of all i hate veil (but love vivian)

[@BonazaiGirl]

I won’t tolerate Ms. Mowz slander! Her thief ability has come in clutch in getting those badges and items.

[@electroamp]

Flurrie is once again underrated as a tank. She's the absolute best in defensive builds. Plus, Dodgy Fog + the lucky badges = Mario is pretty much invincible.

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

Because it's incredibly unnecessary. Defensive builds are pointless when there are so many good offense builds. Whats the point in making Mario invincible when you can specc him to end every single battle before enemies get a turn?

[@MeSoleHorny]

​@@BlaizeTheDragon Both can be useful. Some may not be too good with action commands or able to super guard well.

[@malacara1335]

​@@BlaizeTheDragon in that case the only partner that matters is goombella since she can make mario go twice per turn.

[@Totema1]

She can't be a true "tank" because there's no way to ensure that an enemy chooses to hit her. Putting her in front can help, sure, but a lot of the time their selection seems arbitrary. And it doesn't matter at all with endgame enemies that have AOE attacks.

[@ClintonKE]

Doggy fog on mario with some dodge Badges makes it so even if they target mario it won't matter

[@MarioMamTess]

I love how Bringle was like "My rating for Kiss Thief is going to be controversial" and then put it exactly where I would've put it. I was thinking "Yeah, not a super amazing move, but it's by far Ms. Mowz's best move and actually has some good uses if you wanna disarm an enemy or steal their item for yourself. No other partner can do that, and it's genuinely a useful ability to have, even if her other moves all suck.". Like Kiss Thief is a bad *attack* since it's not one. But it IS a good move since it has a useful ability that you can't get anywhere else. If this were a tier list of damage, yeah it'd score terribly, but in terms of abilities and how useful they are, Kiss Thief is definitely up there for it's utility.

[@Sit_on_it]

Gale force is how I got through the pit 100 trials.

[@TheGeladoo]

I think one of the things you forgot to mention on the first half was the field abilities, Yoshi is even more of an MVP for allowing you to traverse the world faster

[@DolphyShark]

4:30 Mini egg is so fun to use against bosses that it works on and does great damage, i dont see why its whatever 😔

[@Deafgal-c3p]

it's just not reliable damage and it does hit once.

[@DeitySkullKid]

*Grubba gets giant* Mini-egg

[@kostyaodnokonnyy4439]

​@@Deafgal-c3p It's not reliable damage ONLY when there is more than one target. Also, can you elaborate on "it does hit once"?

[@KrisMoreno-uk9to]

My yoshi died in the first round lol

[@majorxapocalypse]

I would also agree with most of the list but I also would say that with Bobbery, besides the queen fight, can use bomb squad on Cortez on the stage where he is weaker when he shows his chest jewel you can immediately get him to show his chest so you have an even easier time defeating him. Bobbery’s moves are niche, but can help things move along. I feel that move can move up a set at least because it’s use in speed runs. Otherwise, great tier list!

[@kingLeo50]

One of my favorite uses for yoshi’s mini egg is during the raw hawk fight if you use it while he’s holding the ceiling he will shrink,, fall and lose access to that attack. which to me is comical and useful because Ive always found the ceiling shake attack annoying

[@JoelBurger]

No way Lip Lock is C, it's what makes Flurrie the game's premier tank

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

It’s literally a form of sustainability for a tank. That is exactly what you want.

[@justineberlein5916]

Seriously. Combined with Power Lift, it did most of the damage against Bonetail for me

[@infinityheart_tm9270]

@TP-pq9xx Just put her in the front.

[@Jordan13299]

Lip Lock is so PP friendly and honestly your best option going through the story against stuff like buzzies.

[@Clepto_and_Co]

@@Jordan13299 you didn't have to word it like that lmao, it's fp in this game

[@zerima34]

Yo Bringles! Just wanted to tell you that Tattle can be useful in battle since it gives you a guaranteed Bingo slot for using it

[@phictionofgrandeur2387]

And more star power than an appeal if you do the stylish.

[@Naito9874]

​@@phictionofgrandeur2387only if one character is in Danger/Peril apparently

[@puddingchewer1018]

I would have ranked mowz above flurrie since thief can be pretty useful for getting extra badges, and also her ability outside of battle is basically essential for getting 100% completion.

[@BlaizeTheDragon]

I always found that Ms mowz at least has her own niche use whereas flurrie has nothing that other party members can't do but better (her tanky nature is useless due to how easy it is to wipe enemies before they have a turn). Not to mention ms. Mowz stealing items becomes a godsend in late pit of 100 trials. Personally in the remake I'd like to see her being able to steal coins (amount scales with enemy type) to give it extra flexibility when enemies don't have any items/badges to steal.

[@chrisn.8322]

@@BlaizeTheDragon Kiss Thief actually steals random items and badges from the enemy's drop table even if they have no held item. If you roll nothing you get 1 coin instead.

[@Mr.LongPlay]

Bobbery and Vivian are my favorite character/design wise.

[@squawk-box]

0:47 probably based on the filename of the images? aside from goombella being at the end for some reason, they're in alphabetical name order.

[@Sit_on_it]

Lip lock is how I beat bone tail.

[@cherrieevans3014]

You made me want to play this game and experiment with the different set ups! Cant wait for the remake

[@Madchimpz]

I think you did Flurry dirty for no good reason, she's pretty great defense-oriented character. Body slam can hit anything but spiked enemies and it's single hit so good against defense. Gale force can potentially instant kill. Lip lock ignores defense, can hit anything except enemies with a sharp front which there are very few of, and heals you for whatever damage you dealt. I don't see why dodgy fog sucks, it makes you have a 50% dodge chance for 4 turns, essentially doubling your survivability, and unlike in 64 it can stack with pretty lucky and lucky day. With the second highest health and lip lock, she's the tankiest partner. Oh yeah, and blowing wind is great for first strikes, stunning enemies and allowing you to land whatever you want. The only reasoning was body slam being annoying, which is true but only for how long it takes rather have easy it is to perform, and it is easy. And gale force is cheesy, but it's technically a good attack. I think there's too much focus on damage, when survivability matters too for challenge runs.

[@mcfeederston1056]

I find it funny that I got a lot out of Flurry just because she can tank damage like crazy with her life drain kiss, it was against the bone dragon soooooo yeah very important stuff xd.

[@Barkanine]

I've honestly always found Flurrie to be a better meat shield than Bobbery, especially with a couple copies of Power Plus P equipped. Bobbery's five extra health doesn't matter as much when Flurrie can reliably heal back 6 or more per turn with Lip Lock, especially against Bonetail.

[@BigNewman]

Lip Lock on Flurrie is really nice early game. It goes past enemy defense

[@magicsabby]

Bomb Squad is the funniest move in the game in my opinion. I love chaining two together and watching them all blow up at once

[@Cdiddysir]

Flurrie is a better tank than bobbery because of lip lock. She can tank hits and get health back

[@Madchimpz]

Yeah, 5 max health difference is meaningless when Flurrie can heal a bunch of HP with each lip lock.

[@stephenrichter8940]

​@@Madchimpz That gets compounded with power lift allowing her to gain health vs any enemy in the game aside from the two post game bosses

[@romeospells2487]

Hey dude! Keep up the great stuff! Looking forward to hitting my 6 month badge!

[@TheRobotPenguin1]

Baby Yoshi's stampede is very powerful, especially if you keep adding "Charge" to it. Trust me, I've done it SEVERAL times.

[@phantom-ri2tg]

I'd say Dodgy Fog is actually a good move. from what I see you will dodge an average of 3 attacks for its one use. Assuming you don't super guard those attacks. But if you hit every super guard then barely anything is a threat anyways.

[@SILVRXIII]

I love the idea of being "impartial" but also giving leway to characters you have a biased to and being more strict on ones you don't.

[@Thetechgeek2100]

Flurrie with Lip Lock was the only partner move that helped me get through the bonetail fight with the badges I had and the star power available to me. It was right after chapter four.

[@visualcreativemt]

I seriously thing Vivian’s Veil is severely flawed. The point of that ability is use to avoid enemies attacks once it was their turn. That’s the whole point. But instead; once Mario attack and then Vivian uses her Ghost Veil to end my turn, the enemies attack, they pop up from the shadows, the enemies attack, AGAIN!!!! What’s the point if the enemies will just attack again???? Am I the only one that finds this ability severely flawed?

[@TheBladeOfTerror]

I've always loved the Siren design, so cool

[@ItsTheHammer]

Next challenge run you should do a hammer only play through. I recently did one and it was surprisingly fun! Especially if you stack a few power smashes and use charge, mario can do some DAMAGE.

[@Madchimpz]

I like it if only for fire drive, it's a satisfying move. Also doing several flips after power smash.

[@DanialProhozdenia]

Gale force legit carried me in 90s of 100 Trials

[@Brando8654]

13 more days lets go, looking forward for future videos

[@A2ZOMG]

Main disagreement is Mini Egg. That move is incredible since it can hit anywhere without contact and it's cheap. Also when you have 1-6 attack bonus (before factoring Defense), it outdamages Ground Pound because the damage doesn't decay. Like I feel you very severely underrated this move literally only because you compared it to min-maxed Ground Pound which I'd go so far to argue isn't even actually always practical before Ch.7 before you can buy multiple Power Rush badges. Like if you gave Mini Egg to literally any other partner without a multihit, they'd easily be S-tier because something as simple as Power Lift Mini Egg does incredible DPS anywhere on the screen for the FP cost. For that matter I would pretty easily place Mini Egg above Stampede because it gets high value at much lower investment and target anywhere with no-contact also is clutch when the other party member alternatives that accomplish this have notable drawbacks (Fiery Jinx can't be used against fire immune, Gale Force can be RNG, and Bombombast is too expensive).

[@jameswaldron6586]

Pretty sure you called in a bomb threat in middle school.

[@nukawave-um7iu]

I will not stand for the Madame Flurrie slander

[@connorr-w9133]

So, one thing I think you underrated about Mowz is that she does damage that ignores defense *for free*. Her basic attack goes through defense without costing FP. I absolutely would never have made it through my first run of the Pit without her (granted I wasn't playing optimally since I was still young in my understanding of the game). Still, free true damage is free true damage and I think you undersold that.

[@tdawg6365]

Two more weeks until your channel grows like crazy!!!!!

[@TE-Pikmin_the_shadowgami_queen]

Goombella is S tier for me. I played most of the time with her. And her rally wink is so overpowered. You can use two Mario attacks and this is fantastic. And I love her multibonk together with charge or other attack buffs. Her story is ok but it goes better. Koops is B tier for me. Until you have vivian he is good for multi-targets but I prefer Vivian‘s fiery jinks. In hooktail‘s Castle he is useful but After that I used him Not that often. His story is also only ok. Because he want to grow up. Flurrie is D tier for me. I used her only when you have to blow something away but in battles I used her 2 or 3 times. If i have to block an attack or in the battle with Bonetail to get her buff for Mario. Her story is nothing special but it is cool that she returned back to the spotlight After the adventure. The Yoshi is S tier for me. His attacks a very good except for enemies with 1 defense or more. His gulp is very good for enemies to break their defense and with charge or other attack buffs he is so powerful. His story is cute and I like that he wants to be a champion in glitzpit like mario. Vivian is A tier for me. I Iove her fiery jinks and her shade fist and the fire effect is almost always guaranteed. Her veil is not that good as outta sight from Lady Bow because veil is so strange. When Mario attacks and after that you veil the enemy can attack twice but I‘m sure you know that. Her story is also wonderful and she switched the sites because she was bullied by Beldam. Bobbery is A tier for me. His bomb attacks are good but his power bomb is very expensive and his other moves are not that good and I never used them. His story is the best of all from Mario‘s partners and I love his whole story sections on chapter 5. Ms. Mowz is D tier for me but better than flurrie. I used her only if the enemy is carrying an item that I want to own. Or on the moon because she bypasses the defense of the enemies. Her story isn‘t special but she is better than flurrie in my opinion. That was a cool idea to rank the partners and their moves.

[@Brett276]

I saw Vivian in chapter 2 and my first thought was "her sister is so MEAN to her, I wish I could ask her to join US" II was SO psyched in Twilight Town

[@kingzant99]

I had the exact same thought as a kid!

[@Pinkamous]

This is literally my favorite game of all time and I had no idea Flurrie was a cloud this WHOLE TIME until you said it. I genuinely thought she was a ghost my whole life lmao

[@BaldorfBreakdowns]

"Yoshi's ground pound is phenomenal!" *Shows clip of Yoshi's ground pound doing 0 damage*

[@zidkins]

Thank you I needed this tier list because I’m gonna play the remake for the first time 🙌🏻

[@FireRising86]

Enjoy!

[@willh1655]

Flurrie is an unkillable tank and has the best move in the game. Very few enemies have any resistance to being blown away. She doesn't need any badges to destroy the whole field.

[@tomrees82]

23:15 Ms not Miss

[@sirskylight7901]

There's some mechanics in this game that I feel like I definitely overlooked when playing the game. Especially as a kid. Knowing Vivian can hit pretty much anyone (not Bristles) with shade fist means that enemies like spiky parabuzzies can be a little less annoying. Although, at the same time, by the time you get Vivian, you can just get the Spike Shield badge and it won't be a problem anyways. Lol. Hopefully, I'll remember some of these things for when the remake comes out.

[@sonoci]

This was a super fun video! I really appreciate that the casual side of things was also taken into account. It would have been a fun extra 5 minutes or so to rank their field abilities too :p Super excited for the remake! Less than 2 weeks away!

[@emersonfridge]

LETS GOOOO ANOTHER BRINGLE BANGER!

[@youzettasonsofdigits1639]

I actually really like Flurrie and use her quite a lot with gale force because you can one shot things and you still get the star points

[@DaveReviewsThings]

Loved this video!!! Can you do a quick guide on stylish moves? Been binging all your videos recently and notice you always hit those, there are no other guides I can find on KZbin

[@jazzratoon]

I like how in Japan Rally Wink is actually Support Kiss. It really shows Goombella how much she cares for Mario. She alongside Yoshi Kid and Ms Mowz are my favourite character wise.

[@ericmay560]

Shell shield with debuffs is majorly overlooked. You can tank so much since the shield never goes away unless damaged.

[@TalentlessHuman]

I would have loved to hear your thoughts on ranking each of the partner's abilities in the overworld :D

[@tloz9715]

An insane Yoshi Gulp "badges permitting." Is still insane

[@MarsJenkar]

I was thinking that those extra copies of the partners were going to be used for the field moves--the special abilities they have outside of battle.

[@clownplayer7265]

Seeing Goombella being S tier and best companion for the adventure is good enough for me. Multibonk is the boss slayer and Rally Wink is essentially "Make the best character you control move again".

[@TejanoTigre]

I always thought Vivian was considered the strongest partner in battle. She was definitely my go-to every playthrough

[@kingzant99]

same, I love the burn and also she's just best girl

[@jeynarl]

I'm about halfway thru the vid. Totally agree with everything you say. (edit: yep, this is pretty much spot on for all of them) If we're talking about partner overworld abilities I'd def give the award for that one to Yoshi's riding ability. Ms. Mowz's sniffing is real useful for finding all those hidden objects, but apart from that I'd rank the rest as okay with their overworld attacking stuff. I'd put Vivian near last with her shadow veil thing since hiding from an overworld enemy doesn't do much since they usually can still get you when you unhide. Then I'd rank goombella's last since it has no real utility other than lore building (props to that poor dev team that was tasked with coming up with a goombella prompt for every single room and npc in the game tho. That's dedication)

[@MrFancyPantsMan]

Your tier list is exactly on point

[@PTp1ranha]

I feel like, for all the talk about how these lists weren't entirely based off mechanics and minmaxing, it was still more of an influence than not. I would've liked to hear a bit more of your takes on the characters' personalities and the roles they play in their respective chapters, and how that might affect rankings. I know when you play the game as often as a challenge youtuber would, everything superficial eventually fades away until only gameplay remains (hence the perception that superguarding is so easy). But still, I think you could've gone further with it.

[@Green13Gaming]

8:20 "Pierces defense I think" proceeds to show a clip of the move not piercing defence

[@lulumackenzie]

I love how much you love Goombella. I think I underestimated her; I've tried so many times to get multibonk right, but for some reason it's so much harder on the switch than on the GameCube!

[@Jordan13299]

Flurrie ain’t the best but she’s better than Koops imo. Gale Force is shockingly consistent. If there are 4 enemies on the field at least 2 are getting blown away and that’s amazing in the later chapters when enemies have higher HP. Other than Quake Hammer it’s the most FP conservative spread move and if it ko’s it still gives Mario exp. She can also tank really hard thanks to Lip Lock piercing enemy defense and let’s you beat bosses you have no business clearing. Her usage kinda dwindles the better you are at the game and badge optimization but I had to shout her out cause Gale Force is pretty OD.

[@BigBuckies]

kiss thief in low A is crazy, I understand your reasoning but I can't really agree with it, stuff worth stealing shows up much too infrequently to get much use out of it, like maybe in the deep pits you'll see some really good badges or that stopwatch scenario you mentioned but aside from that, I can't really think of any scenarios where I thought "I should switch to mowz to steal what that enemy has", at least in an unmodded ttyd, which I assume this list was made for

[@DeitySkullKid]

You DO know you can steal even if the enemy has no item? If an enemy has no item It gives you items based on their hold rate (you get the coin if you hit nothing ) you can farm any koopa for as many power rushes as you want, get infinite close calls from goombas, find a spania and get as many pretty luckies as you please, defend pluses from chain chomps, power pluses from dark wizzerds , you just have to fond the enemy and farm their drop table as long as you want without ever having to reset the battle items by entering a different area Kiss thief is BUSTED

[@BigBuckies]

@@DeitySkullKid ok I actually didn't know that, learned something new

[@tomaplier899]

Hi Bringle I just found out about your channel and love your challenge videos of paper mario and the thousand year door I can't wait for the remake to come out soon!

[@arand0mpers0n58]

I never even knew dodgy fog existed before this video. You know it's bad when a casual who thought hammer was better than jump doesn't know the move exists.

[@ericestrada3530]

I agree Goombella should be at the top. Who's the strongest character in the game? Mario, it's not even close, so being able to give him another turn is extremely valuable

[@ericestrada3530]

Yeah it costs FP but not that much and it pays itself back with star power anyways

[@snausages43]

I like how the devs knew everyone would love Vivian so they gave her a move that takes advantage of her ability to make people fall in love with her. Even if that move isn’t very useful.

[@vaheeeezy]

You can press A as soon as you line up the cursor for Flurry’s attack command. You don’t have to keep it lined up!

[@harribo2323]

WHAT?!!?!??!!

[@DSpiritwolf]

Tease being considered better than Flurrie's Mist is absolutely wild to me. They essentially do the same thing but tease is not only a debuff that might not even stick but its got the most painful command input than most other abilities. Like at least the mist you're guaranteed to apply even if you fuck up most of the commands but its still there. Tease you gotta hope it gets applied AND hope the enemies miss.