Ranking The Ars Goetia from Good to Evil

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@vgmarkis
@vgmarkis Ай бұрын
Who's your favorite Ars Goetia? EDIT: Also I'm aware Ozzie is named as an Ars Goetia in Solomon but he's one of the 7 sins in Helluva Boss. Which is their own entirely different league from the show's Ars Goetia. I'll still take the small L for not mentioning him in that capacity though. He'd go into the "Pretty Good" tier : P
@smolidk7981
@smolidk7981 Ай бұрын
Andrealphus. He's basically glomgold from DuckTales only a peacock
@haleythecross-eyedtatterto8461
@haleythecross-eyedtatterto8461 Ай бұрын
I think vasago is pretty cool and I relate with Octavia so, #1🏆 Octavia #2🥈vasago
@zombiegalaxy1212
@zombiegalaxy1212 Ай бұрын
@@haleythecross-eyedtatterto8461 W
@isabellaeid987
@isabellaeid987 Ай бұрын
@@haleythecross-eyedtatterto8461 Same, I love Vassago a lot but Octavia was here first and has had much more screentime because of it
@pikeshimmer
@pikeshimmer Ай бұрын
Octavia!
@BluejaySerenade
@BluejaySerenade Ай бұрын
I honestly think Andrelphus is worse than Stella. Don't get me wrong, Stella is a bad person, but it's pretty clear Andre has manipulated her for a long time, if not her entire life. She's not really cunning or evil, more of a spoiled brat that has to get her way. Andre is the REAL mastermind behind it all.
@CrowCoded
@CrowCoded Ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@Volvagia1927
@Volvagia1927 Ай бұрын
Stella's not "cunning", no. But what is more nauseatingly evil than aimless cruelty...?
@Lux_the_Lost
@Lux_the_Lost Ай бұрын
I'd argue they're equally bad in different ways. Andrealphus is a scheming snake, and Stella is a heartless grubby b~~~~nugget just for enjoyment's sake.
@Zero_Degrees
@Zero_Degrees Ай бұрын
Mastermind….say that again.
@NoitNoit-ef2yq
@NoitNoit-ef2yq Ай бұрын
I saw someone calling Stella worse than Valentino... like for what? Being spoiled? Being a rich a-hole? Are we really comparing a spoiled brat that never grew up to a slave owner that constantly drugs and abuses people? I will say this and people will hate to hear but Stella is still redeemable, she doesnt need to change, doesnt need to like Stolas, all she need to do is to care about her daughter a little, if she does that then she automatically becomes a better person without any change at all. (I dont want her buddy-buddy with Stolas anyway) Some people like to add the bit with her strangling the creature on EP1 of S2, but she was a kid, her parents or caretakers were there didnt stopped her and even celebrated with a picture, she is just a product of the broken nobility, she lives in a echo chamber that perpetuates her thoughts as right and Stolas's as wrong, calling her evil for lacking empathy when no one around her has any is laughable, Stolas killed a Imp on screen, it was in self defense? Yes, but was it needed? No! We know royalty cant be harmed by normal weapons, what Stolas did was more evil but we dont talk about it do we?
@trixtheghostwalker6634
@trixtheghostwalker6634 Ай бұрын
I randomly decided to look it up where Stolas landed in power among the ars Goetia basically from what I can tell the only reason Stolas isn't top 4 is because one of them is Asmodeus
@M8ckyl
@M8ckyl Ай бұрын
among ars huh
@TheForestFort-r6f
@TheForestFort-r6f Ай бұрын
😂
@teriso1793
@teriso1793 Ай бұрын
Stolas is a Prince so he's high up yeah, pretty sure Vassagos around there too. Andrealphus is just a Marquis
@smolidk7981
@smolidk7981 Ай бұрын
Andrealphus had 30 legions before, now he also has Stolas' 26, meaning he now has 56 legions, just shy of Bael's 66 and Paimon's 200.
@LDUNNEH
@LDUNNEH Ай бұрын
@@smolidk7981why does stolas have less? When Adrealphus is a marquis a lower ranking than prince.
@smolidk7981
@smolidk7981 Ай бұрын
Gotta love how Andrealphus first appeared for one frame in the 2022 trailer, then officially revealed on Twitter months Before season 2 even started, then was mentioned By Stella in The circus, then first appeared in Western energy with a minor role, and basically became the show's main antagonist as of "Mastermind". Definitely a proper set up for a villain
@juliaboskamp9666
@juliaboskamp9666 Ай бұрын
I feel like he is going to be that power hungry uncle who wants to chat with Via on the top of the strairs. Maybe that is how Stolas will get his daughter back, that they will live like the normal demons but are together and happy.
@brockthehydroelectricninja3144
@brockthehydroelectricninja3144 Ай бұрын
Agreed! Of all the Helluva Boss villains, Andrealphus is my favourite
@timjustmereally2570
@timjustmereally2570 Ай бұрын
I agree with most of the list, I'd just put Vassago over stolas, since he did nothing but stand up against a fraudulent trial, where Stolas, as much as I love him, still did some bad things. Edit: Oh and I believe Andre isn't actually into his sister Stella, since he is canonically gay. Guess he just thinks very highly of her beauty or smth.
@JH24821
@JH24821 Ай бұрын
For Andrealphous beauty is an important element in how he perceives others and himself. (It makes sense because he's a peacock) In Stella's case it's also meant as a kind of insult, because whenever he says she's beautiful it's his way of saying that it's Stella only redeeming quality.
@hellfoxwolf14
@hellfoxwolf14 Ай бұрын
He's trying to sell her again because she's freeloading off of him.
@ImPrettySureThisIsMax
@ImPrettySureThisIsMax Ай бұрын
Vivzie liked a post saying he was doing it to seem more straight so that’s something
@tiglishnobody8750
@tiglishnobody8750 Ай бұрын
If Andre is gay then that means he just worship his sister to point of unhealthy
@Tnpt_studios
@Tnpt_studios Ай бұрын
I feel like everyone forgot Paimon. I'm hoping to see him next episode. He started of the season, it would be nice of him to end it. Maybe he can actually be a good father for once and check on his son. I can only hope.
@hellfoxwolf14
@hellfoxwolf14 Ай бұрын
...I highly doubt that. I bet he even forgot Stolas's name when he was just born.
@CrypticCobra
@CrypticCobra Ай бұрын
Like most neglectful dads, they don't play much of a roll in your life/story.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 Ай бұрын
perhaps he could appear being mad at andrealphus for failing possibly
@rebeccapan5649
@rebeccapan5649 16 күн бұрын
Paimon is innocent? (or maybe not)
@mayfaynezzz
@mayfaynezzz Ай бұрын
I feel like i would swap Stella and Andrealphus, purely because Stella's goals are very simple and she doesnt really care for the wider picture. She hates Stolas and wants him to suffer, she doesnt really care about much else or who else is involced. But Andrealphus is the one plotting everything, pulling the strings, and manipulating the people around them. He is in this for power for himself, and is taking advantage of the situation to benefit his own interests. I will also say I still hope there is something more to Stella, like she does love Octavia genuinely, because i'm still disappointed they made her so cartoonishly evil in order to absolve Stolas of wrongdoing. I feel like it made both her and Stolas less interesting as characters.
@Blazing8
@Blazing8 Ай бұрын
I guess you could say Andrealphus is the Mastermind
@CarrotSpunk.
@CarrotSpunk. Ай бұрын
​@@Blazing8 ba-dum tssk 🥁
@Maiqthelair0
@Maiqthelair0 Ай бұрын
i don't know why the mexican bird is good but i like him
@MonkeyMonje
@MonkeyMonje Ай бұрын
Vassago?
@Starisdumb-3
@Starisdumb-3 Ай бұрын
I think he’s not Mexican, I think he’s either Puerto Rican or Cuban
@Starisdumb-3
@Starisdumb-3 Ай бұрын
According to the fandom and viv
@FunVideos-qf4zr
@FunVideos-qf4zr Ай бұрын
Andrealphus and Stella may be evil, but they are both fun and charismatic to watch and are absolute icons. i hope to see more of their subling dynamic in the future.
@juliaboskamp9666
@juliaboskamp9666 Ай бұрын
Stella for f*ck sake stop making this harder to bullsh!t 😒 -Andre
@fatmasinen7131
@fatmasinen7131 Ай бұрын
Seriosly stella charismatic whit her screaming voice and monkey level intalegence and absulutly zero morals for being evil how nice humanity finaly going insane
@juliaboskamp9666
@juliaboskamp9666 Ай бұрын
@@FunVideos-qf4zr yeah evil fruity Elsa can be such a mood
@shadow_entity_of_nightmare
@shadow_entity_of_nightmare Ай бұрын
Still hating both of them
@elvininoa3367
@elvininoa3367 Ай бұрын
Paimon, he started all this ,because of him, Stolas' life is hell
@JauyJauy
@JauyJauy Ай бұрын
I agree with the list 😎 My favorite Goetia is Stolas but I’m pretty interested in seeing Vasago and Andrealphus in the future. I’d like to think Vasago would come to help Stolas but in secret, and slowly build a better bond while with Blitz for the time being. And Andre def seems like end game villain type for the show. Love how funny he is too, a pos ya love to laugh at lol.
@devinhamb6586
@devinhamb6586 Ай бұрын
7:47 I love the look of annoyance on Stolas's face during this scene. Because, he's either looks like he REALLY wants to sock Andrelphus in the face or thinking " You really love the sound of your own voice don't you Andrelphus."
@dragonvideos5667
@dragonvideos5667 Ай бұрын
I'd say that's a pretty accurate ranking. Octavia is trapped in a sick game of power and Stoals tried to protect her. With him gone, I'm more worried about her in season 3!
@leonarandle2140
@leonarandle2140 Ай бұрын
Andrelphus and Stella are giving Jesse and James from team rocket
@galaxyglow5187
@galaxyglow5187 Ай бұрын
Who would be their version of Meowth?
@leonarandle2140
@leonarandle2140 Ай бұрын
@galaxyglow5187 um Striker but moxxie's height
@deanastephensosborne5604
@deanastephensosborne5604 Ай бұрын
Reminder vassago is the only example of a non sinner overlord meaning he is probably the one the goetia have representing himself in the overlords
@goddessbettyd5614
@goddessbettyd5614 Ай бұрын
Octavia is such a cutie, she just wanted to spend some time with her dad, Stolas. But I have a feeling that the season finale is going to paint a more problematic and questionable ending.
@racheldereje3592
@racheldereje3592 Ай бұрын
I love how Stella and Andre play the big bad guys of the series, I wouldn’t be surprised that Octavia has the rest of her life miserable without her dad, but I fell like Stolas should apologize to his daughter and explain to her that her mom is just using her.
@CKP1706
@CKP1706 Ай бұрын
Vasago actually 1st appeared in the Hazbin Hotel pilot during Vaggie's story of Alastor when it shows all the other overlords, found just under Vox
@albertfrostrudebeck4037
@albertfrostrudebeck4037 Ай бұрын
Asmodeus: am i a joke to you?
@deanastephensosborne5604
@deanastephensosborne5604 Ай бұрын
Lucifer and the rest of the sins -beelzabub: yes yes you are
@GoldenGiggle6110-m6z
@GoldenGiggle6110-m6z Ай бұрын
1:22 is crazy 💀
@OmariMckenzie-k5r
@OmariMckenzie-k5r Ай бұрын
I thought I was the only one who saw it
@Aurora-Welch
@Aurora-Welch Ай бұрын
6:06 His Design is pretty cool and He’s voiced by Jonathan Freeman, Who also Voiced Jafar in 1992’s Aladdin.
@mazinsanik
@mazinsanik Ай бұрын
Instead of putting the good boy at third place for most good, I would put him above, stolas that’s not only did the man desire, true justice, actively defended and stood up to Andre Our favorite owl boy cheated on his wife. I know he didn’t like the marriage, but that’s still something that shouldn’t happen. I know it comes.
@bgggg4168
@bgggg4168 Ай бұрын
Cheating one doesn’t count, he didn’t love her and she didn’t love him back. Plus she got pissed because he cheated with an imp, which ruined her image.
@bgggg4168
@bgggg4168 Ай бұрын
“ It still shouldn’t have happened “ that would be right unless we consider the fact that they both mutually never cared for each other at ALL.
@CarrotSpunk.
@CarrotSpunk. Ай бұрын
​@@bgggg4168 cheating does count because of how it affects Octavia as a whole! Octavia is clearly uncomfortable by the whole relationship not to mention the fact that he's using her as a means to get away from Stella taking her into LooLoo Land which she Hates just pump and dump in his 'impish little thing' are we all forgetting the fact that he literally dirty talks in front of her while Blitz is trying to be professional? Octavia feels like he's abandoning her because he doesn't love her mother or the fact that he's in love with Blitz she clearly feels unloved in this family but in the end she forgives him even though he will do the same thing over and over again despite saying that he wants to change but the characters don't know that only we the audience know that so that isn't much the case because he never tries to change that much because he made up this fictional wonderful land in his head and expect everything to go in his way.
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar Ай бұрын
@@CarrotSpunk. Exactly, it bothers me how much the fans (and the show) whitewash Stolas by discounting alot of his shittiest actions. I blame the "Protagonist Centered Morality" that Helluva Boss runs on, where the worst actions of the protagonists are largely ignored while the villains' actions are only treated as especially bad because they oppose the protagonists. Stolas has way more blood on his hands then Stella or Andrealphus. But because it's Human blood nobody cares.
@CarrotSpunk.
@CarrotSpunk. Ай бұрын
@@PlanetZoidstar My thoughts exactly I've seen this many times before in media where the protagonists are always right and everyone who's are against them are either wrong or dumb and others who are on their sides are always right same goes for HB.
@welcum6632
@welcum6632 Ай бұрын
stolas is a nice guy but blitz's behavior towards him has led both him and the relationship in a bad direction
@Fajitaguy123
@Fajitaguy123 Ай бұрын
I do think Stolas Is also a fault, He used to Say things to blitz that clearly Made him uncomfortable
@eksprolek2924
@eksprolek2924 Ай бұрын
​@@Fajitaguy123i mean he FORCED blitz to be in the relationship at the threat of loosing EVERYTHING he worked for. Ofc blitz didn't mind that much and stolas didn't think it thriught and were totally not malocious but the fact still exists
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 Ай бұрын
What I don't like is how Stolas is constantly victimized as Blitz is getting all of the hate. "OH MY GOOD YOU POOR OWL" "Blitz I care bout u but wtf" It's annoying.
@Thediddlesquad
@Thediddlesquad Ай бұрын
Please stop blaming everything on blitzo, I personally love stolas but he is incredibly hypocritical(and a lot more, actually)
@CarrotSpunk.
@CarrotSpunk. Ай бұрын
​@@Fajitaguy123 isn't he the one that manipulated Blitz by setting up a scenario in one of the episodes by using an abusive tactic that requires the abuser to put themselves in a position of power while also making the test subject making a decision which they have to choose "the correct decision" this caused Blitz to lash out and obviously he looks very distressed by Stolas' actions? Clearly from my perspective he's no victim in this case.
@Duker_98
@Duker_98 Ай бұрын
Andrealphous is worse than Stella. Stella's behaviour is more excusable. Not only was her entire life planned(way more than stolas), she never wanted to marry Stolas in the first place.
@LucaB-i2f
@LucaB-i2f Ай бұрын
Stella literally got a hitman to kill Stolas...
@JH24821
@JH24821 Ай бұрын
Stella wanted to kill Stolas. She wanted to murder the father of her own daughter. She hates Stolas more than she loves Octavia.
@silliestweasell
@silliestweasell Ай бұрын
@@LucaB-i2fyes were aware that this doesnt excuse her actions. but still.
@kevinmcinnis2586
@kevinmcinnis2586 Ай бұрын
I agree that out of the Goetia we've seen, Andrealphus is definitely one of the "most evil." I mean, he did have Striker lie in court for his own ends, but let's not forget he didn't hire him initially to kill Stolas, Stella did. True, he didn't really care, but he did talk her into resending her order.
@lebogang-stroom
@lebogang-stroom Ай бұрын
I think in the next episode stoles want to see his daughter but Stella and her brother want to stop him so a fight begins than Octavia sings
@IcecreamCat23
@IcecreamCat23 Ай бұрын
Okay let’s be honest, most of the ars goetia will be related to Stolas pretty closely because Paimon had so many kids
@katrinamaree7078
@katrinamaree7078 Ай бұрын
6:25 it is indeed not a good excuse, but then again, Paimon has 71 children. That's a lot of names to remember
@theawkwardpotato1973
@theawkwardpotato1973 Ай бұрын
2:12 - How much you wanna bet Stella will gaslight Octavia/Andrealphus into thinking Satan just straight-up executed her dad and try to keep her from finding out he's alive, but... well, at his lowest?
@Bakingisfun123
@Bakingisfun123 Ай бұрын
I can't wait for the episode that shows 100 years later when stolas is finally a goetia again!
@anwenlokier2292
@anwenlokier2292 Ай бұрын
In my school vr game Stella and Andrelphus were responsible for Titan Cameraman disappears for 7 months and due to what Titan Cameraman is kidnapping him (if you watched Skibidi Toilets you know) is blows the Mastermind bullish.t out of the Sea of souls
@HappyThoughts-HAPPY-THOU-xx3gm
@HappyThoughts-HAPPY-THOU-xx3gm Ай бұрын
It really does make sense for vassago to be an older brother of Stolas. He and Andre (I’m not typing out his full name) are at odds parallel their younger brother/sister
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 Ай бұрын
I still think he should be on top of Stolas than below. Stolas at the moment did way much more horrible things to Blitz and his daughter.
@sarafontanini7051
@sarafontanini7051 Ай бұрын
in my eyes stella isn't so much stupid as shortsighted and implusive and more concerned with what she wants now. SHe doesn't care about power like her brother does, she's already living her best life even if she has to do by bullying her 'husband'. She'd rather do something that makes her happy NOW than jsut wait forever. She clearly doesn't give a shit about politics, hence her ignoarance as to the importance of the grimoire. I do say she's worse cause Andrealphus has to put on SOME charade for others to get what he wants and he's patient enough to jsut wait till he does something, while stella will ruin lives and murder people without a second thought if she's angry enough. Basically she's worse cause she's more volatile and more actively dangerous, while Andrealphus has some things holding him back.
@Floppedaway
@Floppedaway Ай бұрын
For sins mas andrealphus is going to make an appearance infront of stolas’s mansion that he frozen really embracing his elsa on a mental breakdown nature and a frame of Octavia surrounded by purple candles (trailer of 2024)
@Rosewolf29
@Rosewolf29 Ай бұрын
Simple, pure evil is Stella and Andrephus, done.
@JohnHayward-c6r
@JohnHayward-c6r Ай бұрын
Literally no competition Octavia say most good Stolas second good Andrealphus and Stella share first for most evil
@boneybaron2508
@boneybaron2508 Ай бұрын
I'd say Andrealphus is easily more evil since he's an active, intelligent, malicious force. Stella is a dumb malicious bimbo. Stella is functionally helpless while Andrealphus is actively making things worse at all times
@JohnHayward-c6r
@JohnHayward-c6r Ай бұрын
@ Fair point
@chromeothox3247
@chromeothox3247 Ай бұрын
I’d put Vassago over Stolas
@Aceintheholemf
@Aceintheholemf Ай бұрын
I would say Octavia: you covered it pretty well. Vassago: we don't know much about him but he dose seem to be a pretty good guys, careing and determined. Stolas: yeah .... Hes uhhhh... He done a lot of shit..... Corise Blitz into sleeping with him, hypocrisy and neglecting his daughter even though she needs him the most, hes still not the worst of course, but I just feel he done too much SB Pimon: yeah..... Pretty much. Stella: she sucks, but a lot of her evil scream seems to come from Andre. Sooooooo Andre: this due is cold, pun intended, he really is manipulating his own sister for power. Stella done a lot of BS but this is real BS.
@ArgentuTA164-2
@ArgentuTA164-2 Ай бұрын
Sam Haft _has_ mentioned in the past (although I don't recall where) that Andrealphus is apparently trying to mask his gay by commenting on Stella's good looks all the time which is genuinely hilarious.
@tatterbug08
@tatterbug08 Ай бұрын
Unrelated, I love striker, I feel the only reason he’s doing this towards Blitzø is because he NEEDS the money. Like he needs to feed Bomb proof 😢
@MuddledWhoDan
@MuddledWhoDan Ай бұрын
Happy bday
@7carrotss
@7carrotss Ай бұрын
Personly I think that vasago knew stolas was gonna sing if he arrived and just enjoys his singing
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar Ай бұрын
I wish Octavia had more of a personality outside of being *"Stolas' daughter"* since she had yet to have a conversation with anyone that didn't wrap around to Stolas. There's alot of potential there for her character that just isn't being used, so alot of the time she feels like a plot device to give Stolas' standing within the Goetia some stakes and to make him seem less horrible than Stella. Because as you pointed out early on, Stolas 'does' get over-victimised by the narrative in a way that serves to (almost certainly by design) remove much of the accountability to his own actions: Stolas cheated on Stella: Well turns out she was always abusive so that's okay. Stolas talks down to Imps, mistreats them and sees them as beneath him? Well Paimon made him that way so it's okay. Stolas neglects Octavia to the point she runs off twice? Well he really does love her and is supposedly "trying" so we should give him a break. Stolas broke up with Blitzo and sent him into a downward spiral? Well Blitzo misinterpreted his intentions and got angry at him, so really Blitzo is the bad guy here? See what I mean? The show beats up on Stolas but in a way that we're meant to pity him for. Despite Stolas' actions consistently hurting everyone around him, good guys and bad guys. Don't forget that just about every onscreen Human death we've seen is because of Stolas. He allowed Blitzo to use his Grimoire (and later got him the Asmodeus Crystal) and allowed I.M.P to rack up an insane body count of Humans...Many of which we cannot be sure had it coming. And some just get massacred as collateral damage (Seeing the Stars)...But these deaths are played for comedy so Stolas' accountability in them happening is ignored. By comparison Stella and Andrealphus aren't anywhere close to evil as Stolas is, yes they are bad people for wanting to take all that he has...But they haven't killed anyone so far. Stolas has caused Hell to become invaded by Cherubs working for D.H.O.R.K.S and he very nearly got I.M.P killed by Satan. Stolas gets alot of pity and sympathy, but when you look at his actions critically...He's responsible for more deaths than anyone else on the show.
@The5DimensionalTesseract
@The5DimensionalTesseract Ай бұрын
“Crystallized, I please nope I was fucking perfect. Oh my God perfect oh shit shit hell yes” I don’t know I was searching for Crystallized on newgrounds
@MadDogAirPirate
@MadDogAirPirate Ай бұрын
I think Octavia's value to Stella is a 'prize' in terms of her being the favorite parent, and that's about the level to which she cares. Otherwise, her focus is on herself, her social circle, and naturally, hating/trying to kill Stolas.
@timothyobrien7993
@timothyobrien7993 Ай бұрын
Stella would be a top most Evil mom at Disney
@besat-j1x
@besat-j1x Ай бұрын
we bouta make stella soup with this one
@samuelbanta4279
@samuelbanta4279 Ай бұрын
What about Ausmodius? Yes I know he’s a Deadly Sin, but In the Lesser Key of Solomon he is listed as An Ars Goetia.
@hellfoxwolf14
@hellfoxwolf14 Ай бұрын
He's a mixed breed.
@darthslain
@darthslain Ай бұрын
i would be very surprised if vassago doesn't come to help stolas in the future
@X-Games4-8
@X-Games4-8 Ай бұрын
Only Wickedbinge can rank the characters from Good to Evil.
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 Ай бұрын
Wickedbinge sucks. They keep messing up my favorite villain and not doing their research. The only time they actually did was in Squid Game where they had a valid point for Sykes losing at the Marbles Game.
@tarakeighran2184
@tarakeighran2184 Ай бұрын
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@cryodarkflow1508
@cryodarkflow1508 Ай бұрын
Andre did not get Stolas' legions, but he tried
@chadwolfius3620
@chadwolfius3620 Ай бұрын
Personally, I really don't want Octavia to be depicted as like a saint in HB. I want her to have some layers to show that she too can have flaws. Like when she starts believing that if her parental figures won't teach her magic (like her now-tarnished father or self-interested mother and uncle), then she would teach it herself even if it meant sneaking in to grab Andrealphus's grimoire without his persmission/notice. Or maybe she'd succumb to the angst-side and start becoming as bad as her mother unless someone knocks some sense into her. Of course, she would learn from her mistakes in the end to further her character development, and maybe find happiness with friends regardless of stature. But I guess if the 'sainted' route were taken for her, then she'd possibly be like a ally to Charlie Morningstar and her 'redemption' cause as like the proper-brains addition. Just anything to not make her too boring in the final outcome.
@Flufux
@Flufux Ай бұрын
I kinda got the feeling that Vassago is a friend of Stolas specifically, and may not necessarily care too much about Blitz and I.M.P., given that most of the times he spoke up, it was to support or speak up for Stolas in particular.
@pichugirl6
@pichugirl6 Ай бұрын
since the release of the Mastermind episode, it's painted a very clear picture to me that Stella doesn't give 2 sh!ts about her daughter. All Stella cared for is her current royal status and the enjoyment of tormenting Stolas as a means to pass the time. Stella has been and will continue to be a spoiled entitled brat, never punished or disciplined by her very actions to care unless a dagger is cut right into her cold un-dead heart. For a while I wanted to see some kind of scene where we do actually see Stella and Octavia in the same room but actually interacting. Mastermind gave me enough for just that 5 second scene to tell me Stella is both a terrible Wife but also a terrible Mother. Unless Sinmas episode wants to prove me wrong, I have a strong suspicious belief that either Andrea or Stella will say something they should not have said within ear distance for Luna to eavesdrop into.
@Mr60Gold
@Mr60Gold Ай бұрын
Not to mention that in the party scene of the night Blitzo appeared to steal the book, Stella somewhat referred to Octavia as the egg that popped out of her. Even if she didn't directly call her the egg, her saying that she was glad about it purely for the reason of not having to be intimate with Stolas anymore shows that even Octavia's birth didn't affect her as if it did then she would at least say she is grateful for having Octavia but instead she views her birth as more of a convenience for her rather than a gift to treasure and care for.
@Tiltyandmonke
@Tiltyandmonke Ай бұрын
I think Octavia is a kid at bed time and a teenager at day
@skylanderstrapteam
@skylanderstrapteam Ай бұрын
Yeah, this is the exact order I would do too.
@deadblue6064
@deadblue6064 Ай бұрын
throughout heaven and earth Vessago is the kindest
@TheAllSeeingEye2468
@TheAllSeeingEye2468 Ай бұрын
Stella and her brother are definitely the most evil
@nyrhine9664
@nyrhine9664 Ай бұрын
Who else think Andre is MORE evil than Stella, he's WAY more manipulative Also, if you don't know, Stolas was originally gonna be a villain And I don't think it's fair to say Stella's friends are evil just because that hang out with her like seriously maybe they don't know what Stella's doing
@J4ckj4ck_Sp34ks_Archive
@J4ckj4ck_Sp34ks_Archive Ай бұрын
Andre says that to Stella to sound, heteronormative
@SkysTheLimit57
@SkysTheLimit57 Ай бұрын
I would've switched stolas and the mexican one because of how he was pretty much using blitzø at one point
@scottyoung7233
@scottyoung7233 Ай бұрын
unsure if u do what if's, but what if Blitz and Stolas' affair never got revealed?
@AriaSerif
@AriaSerif 13 күн бұрын
Fair order... but also, I think it's possible (since she lives in the place) that Octavia very well will be the downfall of her mother and uncle in season 3 even if she doesn't reconcile with Stolas.
@zoo680
@zoo680 Ай бұрын
I’m excited for the next Ars Goetia to be 10 times evil than Stella.
@Kaylee-s2p
@Kaylee-s2p Ай бұрын
Andrelifes has high heels
@damainortiz
@damainortiz Ай бұрын
Vassgao is probably the most morally ambiguous one. He’s willing to defend Stolas but at the same time doesn’t care about his love affair.
@alfredhinton8792
@alfredhinton8792 Ай бұрын
Hope the creators give out the names of the goetia that appear
@Lucimaster666
@Lucimaster666 Ай бұрын
But what about asmodeus!?
@Justanormalcat757
@Justanormalcat757 Ай бұрын
Giggity
@DragonSlayer2.0-z7z
@DragonSlayer2.0-z7z Ай бұрын
15 hours
@tandreturner855
@tandreturner855 Ай бұрын
Random but birthday twins lol 🎉
@Verø.6
@Verø.6 Ай бұрын
Fun fact: people who say all demons are evil couldnt be further from the truth. A majority of demons are evil, yes. But a small part is actually rather friendly towards human souls. For example: Vassago. There are many others but due to Vassago being the only helluva boss demon to be on that list, it fits to put him there over the others.
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 Ай бұрын
Honestly, this ranking reminds me a lot of WickedBinge where they rank characters from good to evil! Also we see that Vassago is the most good despite his minor appearance and I have a feeling Andrealphus is the most evil Goetia here since he got I.M.P. arrested and he was happy that Blitz almost got executed and that Stolas lost everything. Stella is even worse especially that she's going to manipulate Octavia and use her for Stella and Andrealphus' selfish plans.
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 Ай бұрын
Not a fan of WickedBinge, they keep messing up their rankings about my favorite villain Sykes. The only thing they did right was the squid games video.
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 Ай бұрын
@Yellowguy0619 What are you saying?
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 Ай бұрын
@@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 I'm saying that Wickedbinge doesn't do their research well enough on characters.
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982
@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 Ай бұрын
@@Yellowguy0619 How do you know?
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 Ай бұрын
@@rainbowtoyfunrandomess1982 I did my own research. I'm a Disney fanatic. Some of these villains like Sykes who are ranked low is because of the lack of attention they gave.
@Franz_Josef_von_Habsburg
@Franz_Josef_von_Habsburg Ай бұрын
Cool
@sonofjack6286
@sonofjack6286 Ай бұрын
Andrelphus is worse than Stella. Stella is stupid evil, Andrelphus is essentially her handler.
@aurorahagstrom8078
@aurorahagstrom8078 Ай бұрын
You didn't cover oizze
@owenanderson8224
@owenanderson8224 Ай бұрын
I agree that characters you love to hate can be pretty good when done well, but I just don’t think Stella is done well. She’s just so genuinely incompetent that I fail to ever be threatened by her despite how much power she has (which is also how I feel abt Striker). Andrealphus is hatable scum as well, but he’s cunning and smart with his plans, meaning he’s someone I can hate for being hatable. Stella, I just hate her bc she’s an idiot, and frankly it’s embarrassing whenever the show acts like she’s a genuine threat. Before mastermind I was never once threatened by her trying to take Stolas’ power bc it seemed like she was incapable of doing it. Now I’m threatened by it, but only bc Andrealphus is an actual threat. Stella is just a moron.
@angeldust3407
@angeldust3407 Ай бұрын
where's Asmodeus???
@williehawkinsii4845
@williehawkinsii4845 Ай бұрын
Shouldn't asmodeus also be on this list?
@Jay_XP7
@Jay_XP7 Ай бұрын
Paimon has DEFINITELY done evil things off screen, but why do I feel like he's gonna get the Lucifer treatment, you know super threatening evil being turns out being portrayed as a misunderstood goof
@hellfoxwolf14
@hellfoxwolf14 Ай бұрын
Nah I doubt it. It looked like he did not regret forcing Stolas to marry Stella.
@Demonoicgamer666
@Demonoicgamer666 Ай бұрын
It maybe weird but andrealphus was right when he said “you’re so lucky you are hot Stella” because while it’s weird coming from her brother he’s no exactly wrong Stella is pretty much of no consequences to the geotia so if she died after Octavia was born I doubt pimond would care much in fact it’s likely that the only reason she hasn’t p*ssed someone off enough to want to kill her yet is because she is hot. Apart from throwing parties she’s pretty useless to the geotia once Octavia was born
@JH24821
@JH24821 Ай бұрын
True. It's Octavia who is truly important. If something happens to Stella it would indeed have little consequence.
@JH24821
@JH24821 Ай бұрын
Good point. It's Octavia who is truly important. If something happens to Stella it would indeed have little consequence.
@Lemon-Lime23
@Lemon-Lime23 Ай бұрын
Stolas may HAVE good intentions, but that doesn’t change the fact that he broke demon law for over a year knowing it was a punishable offense, all because he was horny. He definitely should not be in the highest tier, maybe the middle tier but the highest? No. He wouldn’t have gotten his status, powers, and daughter taken away if he didn’t do something extremely wrong. Don’t forget the mass hypocrisy too.
@PlanetZoidstar
@PlanetZoidstar Ай бұрын
I rank Stolas as the most evil Goetia purely by his body count. Every single Human killed by I.M.P only happened because of Stolas' enabling. The majority of which will end up in Hell as Sinners who then end up under the thumb of an Overlord, or become Overlords themselves. Stolas may have not directly killed those Humans but he is utterly indifferent to their death and suffering.
@Magus
@Magus Ай бұрын
I will disagree on the placement of the Gold and Silver here. While they are both inarguably placed in the overall correct category as things stand now I must point out that Andrealphas' capacity for and capability for evil exceeds that of Stella. The Trial premise and plot that played out in Mastermind was wholly of his making, not Stella's, and it was he that was the primary benefactor of its outcome and the albeit temporary assignment of Stolas' Legions to his stewardship as Octavia's Regent. Andy used Stella's knowledge and her rage to leverage the wealth and power to his camp and to no direct benefit of hers as he promised in Western Energy. Stella is STILL just couch surfing at her Brother's place, but now she's doing it in her former home. The true test of how evil Stella is will come when/if she realizes how much her own "Dear Brother" has used her to his own ends while doing nothing but creep lusting over her the whole time...especially when he comes to the conclusion that Octavia must Die because she'll Age Up to End his Regency long before Stolas' exile has run its course.
@LittleBootsie
@LittleBootsie Ай бұрын
Stella is NOT worse than Andrealphus. His whole character is being mastermind behind the scenes and using stella for his own gain. I also wouldnt call Stolas pretty good considering everything he did to Blitz (countless of videos analyzing everything bad Stolas has done to blitz in past episodes). Saying stolas had good intentions isn't a good argument for Stolas' behaviour. Just switch Vassago and Stolas, Andrealphus and Steall and we are good
@josephbulkin9222
@josephbulkin9222 Ай бұрын
Pure of heart? Arent they all demons?
@monkeydigs6696
@monkeydigs6696 Ай бұрын
Isn’t Ozzie technically an goetia? Or am I wrong
@chromeothox3247
@chromeothox3247 Ай бұрын
You’re right 👍
@cherrybloodrain1467
@cherrybloodrain1467 Ай бұрын
i tbh. feel stella will get redeemt in someway, she does realy bad stuff but most comes tbh. from andre and not realy from herself. it is still bad but i could see her getting more screen in somesort of a backstory of hers where we find out how she became this. i want her getting a lil better for her daughter nothing more tbh.
@breakfastatjays7537
@breakfastatjays7537 Ай бұрын
Your missing one Impotent character of the ars Goetia Asmodeus
@Jtbanamations
@Jtbanamations Ай бұрын
Wait stolas isn’t a girl
@CoffeeAcorn
@CoffeeAcorn Ай бұрын
Octavia and Vassago Stollas and Ozzie and Paimon Stella and Andy
@lordalpharius5928
@lordalpharius5928 Ай бұрын
Will laugh hard if your top 3 became redeemed angels
@justusprax9746
@justusprax9746 Ай бұрын
bro forgot ozzie
@Volvagia1927
@Volvagia1927 Ай бұрын
Personal tiering right now? Selfless Good, but Selfish Evil 1. Vassago (Selfless) (And, yeah, that is pretty clear even in the very little screen time. Quirky, as far as we can tell selfless. Yeah, most good, even with, possibly even because of, his very little screen time.) 2. Stolas (Good, but Selfish) 3. Octavia (Good, but Selfish) (Yeah, I'm sorry, even just based on Seeing Stars, I just...can't call her pure hearted, and certainly not closer to that than Stolas. I would be REALLY surprised if Via ever made the sacrifice play. Via falling to evil, even, wouldn't really surprise me that much.) 4. Andrealphus (Evil) (Is he good? No. He IS cruel and power hungry. But we also haven't seen out of him cruelty that is simultaneously intentional and aimless, like we kinda have with Paimon and DEFINITELY seen with Stella.) 5. Paimon (Evil) 6. Stella (Evil)
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 Ай бұрын
I agree but disagree. Stella is more whiny and immature as Andrealphus actually calculates his plans... plus the way how he talks to his sister is horrible. I disagree with the Octavia part. I've been in her shoes where I had to go through my own parent trying to find a partner like a troubled teenager rather than caring about their own kids. I don't like Stolas because of this relatble part of my life.
@Inkbendy-3
@Inkbendy-3 Ай бұрын
Vosago deserves to be second or first
@BlessedSaint
@BlessedSaint Ай бұрын
Just say you running out of ideas unc😭🙏🏾
@Xminecraft700
@Xminecraft700 Ай бұрын
Holder plantain versus SpongeBob and Mr. crabs combo I might be dumb where or I might be cooking
@fandomonium3789
@fandomonium3789 Ай бұрын
I think Satan has gotten a... warmer reception by the fanbase than Vassago.
@hellfoxwolf14
@hellfoxwolf14 Ай бұрын
It's because he's a hot dragon.
@Yellowguy0619
@Yellowguy0619 Ай бұрын
@@hellfoxwolf14 No, he's just Sykes but as a bull.
@DracoLuciusMalfoy22
@DracoLuciusMalfoy22 Ай бұрын
I divorced Striker for Vassago :D
@anticarrrot
@anticarrrot Ай бұрын
Octavia is (ultimately) a very selfish and self centred character. That doesn't make her evil, but does put her well on the path to being degenerate sum like all Ars Goetia are, including her father. Let's be clear, the vast majority of his wealth will have come from racist exploitation of the less powerful demons for thousands of years. We can probably expect a lot of US right wing talking points (wealth-redistribution is communism, reparations are bad, I'm rich because I deserve to be, who should I have to suffer for my ancestor's crimes, oh but I have a bad life too, etc) to come out of Octavia's mouth the moment she's actually confronted with any of it.
@killersasuke13
@killersasuke13 Ай бұрын
I hope Octavia escape her uncle and mother and learn the truth that her mother never like her and sent striker after her father, And Andrelphus is lithely bit off more than he can chew by taking stolas job is harder than it looks and stolas was doin g it ever since he received his big book as a young chick ( aka child bird).
@I_am_atherian
@I_am_atherian Ай бұрын
Vassago is a diva
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