Ranking The Best Fun Cars and Buying One! ($50k & Below)

[@insaneomatic34]

No WRX TR? FeelsBadMan

[@Realistick]

I think that would have been a good inclusion (in the TR form specifically), but Subaru has a strict insurance policy and I was under 25 when I started filming the series...

[@bryanrubino3681]

@Realistick the TS is the one worth waiting for, but i think the wrx wouldve won this easily. Admittedly as an owner its been spectacular.

[@bryanrubino3681]

@Realistick i love your vids though dude your sincerity is so refreshing and tbh i envy how tenaciously i see you chasing your dream. Ill always support even if i disagree.

[@Realistick]

Thanks, that’s great to hear, I like talking with folks who disagree too🥸

[@bryanrubino3681]

@Realistick yeah it makes the community lively but also ive turned 34 today and perhaps all the enthusiast focus is a little overdone to me. Im dreaming of an lc500 about now like a retired dentist. A hot tight fwd car just seems like an inconvenience to me now lol

[@sunnyvalentino]

Im a married dad of a 7 yo. I have an SUV and just purchased a 24 ND3 Club. Its totally fine to take my son for soccer, tennis etc and do grocery (but not Costco) runs. People overstate their needs. Enjoy the purest drivers car out there, that also, is insanely well priced for its unique build. Double wishbones, aluminum, made in Japan, convertible, in 2024 its a crazy deal.

[@CM-yy9bc]

A dedicated sports car will always be more fun than any compromise car. Thats why the 2 car garage is a must if you have the means!

[@J.R.F.23]

I appreciate the video and list. Personally I went with a 2024 BRZ Limited; and I have absolutely zero regrets.

[@realaveragegamer3053]

Went from a 17 ST, 21 Mach 1, 2000 S2k, 22 WRX and now a ND3. Hands down the ND has been the greatest driving, shifting, handling car I've owned. Just out new shoes and coils on it and she's beautiful. I don't regret it at all! and of course the softop for that full convertible experience

[@kurtglover3648]

You won't regret the ND3 man, as an ND1 owner for several years now I can confidently say I'll always have an ND in my garage, there's just nothing else like it anymore!

[@2688elmo]

Enjoyed the series. You and I have such similar taste in cars. I agree almost entirely with your list. I had a 2020 ND2 and then got the FL5. The amount of reviewers waxing lyrical about FL5, I was afraid it would expose how inferior the MX5 is, because I loved that car. And FL5 simply didn't. I had both cars together for a total of 9 months before I had to get rid of the Mazda. But given the "Porsche-esque" praise FL5 always gets, which is justified, I now see the MX5 as the most fun new sports car on earth. Nothing tops that. People get all hung up about lap times and capability, which the FL5 and so many other cars have in spades. But the MX5 pivots around the driver. You sit so low, amplifying the sensation of speed. The lack of weight is just a magical thing. FL5 feels like a bus compared to MX5 with so much car behind the driver. Same goes for every other regular car. MX5 has perfect pedal placement, zero rev hang, instant response, and no active safety features that switch back on with every drive. Starting to fall in love with my FL5, but no other new car will feel as 80/90's as an MX5. I believe we may have another 12-18 months of MX5 on sale before it ends production. I hope longer. Stupid financial decision for me, but I love that car too much to not pull the trigger on one. Prefer new as I like to run it in carefully for peace of mind. Glad you put both the MX5 and FL5 as your top 2.

[@fmc7209]

Been using a ND2 as my daily for a bit over a year now and could not agree more with your comment. Little car literally RUINED almost every other car to me

[@4drturbo85]

But I hear the transmissions in the ND2 are like glass. Lots of people I've been reading about having to have their transmissions replaced due to synchro issues

[@2688elmo]

@@4drturbo85 had zero issues with mine. One of the nicest transmissions I’ve used. FL5 shift is also very nice. Loved them both as I rate them both as some of the best shifters. Neither is better though. Each is different and equally lovely to use

[@fmc7209]

@@4drturbo85 there were issues with the ND1 that were slowly improved over the years. Haven’t heard of any issues with the ND2 and haven’t had anything happen to mine either (knock on wood)

[@adamn389]

Amen brother. Well said.

[@kurtstephan7039]

Great series; I really enjoyed it. I made a similar decision in summer '23, basically considering all of your top six. At the time, the Toyobaru twins, GR Corolla, Civic Type R, and Integra Type S were unobtainium in my area without massive dealer markups--dealers who were also very reluctant to give test drives--plus the latter three were priced beyond was I was comfortable spending even at MSRP. And I was tempted based on its glowing reviews, but never seriously considered the Elantra N because of a bad previous Hyundai ownership experience. In contrast, I was able to get $2K off MSRP on a new Miata RF GT (manual). Because it didn't have to be a practical car, it was a no-brainer and I've loved every second driving it. Side benefit: It gets amazing gas mileage, even when being thrashed. Probably can't say that about any of the others here. But...if I could have spent more and could have gotten one for MSRP, I think I would have bought the CTR or ITS. So I understand your dilemma in making a choice!

[@adamn389]

Welcome to the MX-5 club buddy! Great video. I have a 2019 MX-5 GT-S soft top manual. Absolutely love it! The fun factor is huge!...And it doesn't break the bank. It loves to be revved and dives into corners....soooo engaging.

[@ae7583]

IMHO, this video is the best of its kind. This channel deserves 20 times as many subscribers.

[@snarwars]

I’m glad your journey ended with the ‘answer’. Made the same decision this year too.

[@Realistick]

Nice👍 It was quite the process, but I suppose that was what I needed to realize it really was the answer🤠

[@sharkscanplay2890]

Made the same choice but went with an fk8 as I got a really nice deal. Plus I plan to mod it anyway which will over compensate for the small loss in performance between the fl5 to the fk8

[@desertosprey]

Great video, Tyler! Instead of one $80k car, I went with an FL5 Type-R AND an ND2 Miata. They are both excellent for the reasons you stated and I hope to keep them for a LONG time. But I can't help you with your decision... I still struggle picking which to drive each day! :D

[@Realistick]

Thank you, I'm quite jealous of that garage! Maybe I didn't make super clear in the end, but I did choose the Miata (I'm waiting on my local dealership for the order).

[@desertosprey]

Awesome! 😃👍🏽

[@ZackNakazora1]

I think throttle house said it best. the CTR is the best car but if you roll up to a meet and im there and you have an Elantra N (or veloster N) I will never make fun of that choice and applaud you for making fun car choices.

[@gtiguyry]

Thank you for doing this series. It hit exactly where I needed it. At the same time, I am about to sell my MX5 RF, or am I? Maybe you saved me from making a big mistake in my life. How I appreciate this is an understatement. Cheers to following your heart, now to follow mine…

[@Realistick]

Thanks for watching. Sometimes life requires a sacrifice or two so I won’t judge but I do hope you can keep it. It’ll be hard to replace it with anything else. I’m hoping I never have to be in the position of giving up my future miata (waiting for my dealer to get one in)✌️

[@xXspark365Xx]

Type R is cool but impossible to buy here in Canada so it was out of contention for me. Bought a Elantra N instead

[@BitcoinTo100K]

@xXspark365Xx in America same story often same price Type S after mark up

[@ptitjo42]

The Type S is somewhat more available, the difference is less steep at 5000 CAD compared to the 7K in the US, but still is a lot of $$$.

[@sl0907]

Most brand new type S (61-65k CAD) I've seen listed are asking less than a lightly used fl5(65-70K+CAD). Was car shopping as the type R got announced. MSRP was just within budget so I was excited. Then mark ups basically happened to the entire hot hatch segment. Couldn't get past the looks of the N so ended up getting a BRZ no mark up. Great car when u can find some twisties or track but kinda beats u up in longer commutes. If I were to shop in today's market, I'm honestly tempted at a lightly used mk8 golf R for 45k ish. Yes the engagement is lacking but still a good value at that price. German depreciation means it's still almost 5k cheaper than a used GR corolla core and the near same price as pre facelift fk8 type Rs.

[@shamalabadingdong]

​@@sl0907As an EN owner, I'd take a used mk8 R over many many cars. For sure over a 80k cad GRC or fl5

[@MrScoobieman]

Wanted a type r but got a type S at msrp very happy with my decision!!

[@dannyphamous]

You’re on the same page with me on cars and welcome to the club Tyler! It’s not the new best car, but it is one of the most fun and unique driving experiences: lightweight, pure, all RWD, and reminiscent to 80s/90s JDM cars. Would like a FL5, GRC, Supra, but would still miss having this experience. I would get a GR Yaris if that was available (seems more oversteery than GRC, more pure, and 2800lbs). Throughout your extensive comparison series, it seemed you didn’t give too much praise to the miata at all. In this video, I was already excited and surprised when you ranked the miata as 3rd noting and ranked it with the best shifter. I love my 2020 ND softtop only more and more daily driving exclusively top down in California. It’s the only new car that reminded me of fun lightweight 90s JDM cars that I enjoyed such as the original Miata NA, original MR2, and EF/EG Civics all under 2200lbs (Miata ND at 2334lbs). Plan to keep forever as my last fun gas car and add any used or cheap gas/ev 4 door in future when daughter turns 5. Still hope for more fun gas cars in the future but will see.

[@torlin55]

That’s great! You are the second car reviewer I know of buying the Miata for their own use. Just had to have it!

[@DaddyDWALLY]

Thanks for this series, Realistick. It has been a pleasure to go on this journey with you. I was stuck between the Elantra N and GR Corolla, but I’m just going to save my money for the kids and grab another used Fiesta ST to commute around town in 😂 #FISTgang

[@bearclaw5115]

Fiesta ST? Are those still around? I assumed they all die early deaths because I never see any on the road despite only being 10yrs old. Fun cars though.

[@DaddyDWALLY]

@@bearclaw5115 I still see them occasionally. I had a ‘15 Fist and sold it for a minivan with our kids… time to get one back!!

[@sleety00]

Appreciate you putting this vid together! Been waiting on it since you announced it. Further affirms I gotta turo the elantra N to get it out of my system so I can fully commit to my gr86 lol

[@8Kyofu8]

Its crazy that I was in the exact same position a little over a year ago. I had a deposit down on a Civic Type R but was looking at MX-5s on the lightly used market. They were such a screaming deal price wise, so incredibly fun to drive and I didn't need the extra space. I also ended up with a Miata RF haha. Its been a year now and I drive it everyday as my daily, it'll even be my daily in the next Canadian winter since I got winter tires for it! Honestly no regrets, and the Type R/S can always come later as the more "practical" car in the future.

[@bachsi1]

Love the reviews and perspectives you offer for vehicles in THIS price range! It’s a wonderful class of car, and I also ended up close to a decision between FWD manual options and the ND. My nostalgia won though, and the ND2 was the winner for me :)

[@probablytherealpaul]

Just found your channel and subscribed! Your fun car review series is great. I’ve driven or owned many of these cars and I can’t find a lot of faults in how you’ve ranked them. I just picked up my second Type R and plan to keep it for a long time. It’s such a great car.

[@seb5945]

I also have a spreadsheet and been ranking cars for myself for 10 years now. It's more of a hobby than an actual plan to buy one. Also partly because I like my current car a lot, not in a hurry to replace it any time soon.

[@theaxemanhd4919]

i have a 2023 WRX with the STI short throw shifter...... EXTREMELY FUN! there isn't anything else even close to the boxer rumble when you open it up, brilliant sound and the mechanical AWD system is arguably the best in the game. fun on pavement, grass, gravel, and dirt. once you get past the black plastic body panels its dope. great video just think u left a cool one out.

[@hardycase1]

You have a great youtube channel. I especially enjoyed the Si review.

[@bwappo]

If I had to consider one car besides my GR Corolla, it would be the choice you made, and I went through many of the same cars when narrowing down my choices. I'm super curious to see where your new car takes you. Thank you for such an informative and emotion-up-front series of evaluations!

[@Jay_812]

As an ITS owner, I couldn’t be happier to see it at the top of the list. As an aside, I’ve seen several used with low miles in the mid 40s. That way have been the way!

[@dennisthewalker]

Sticks and stone may break my bones. At the end of the day. Miata Is Always The Answer!!!

[@peter9930]

I had the same dilemma, used Fk8 type R and a used nd2 miata. I chose the Type R and don't regret it! For the price I think the FK8 is a crazy value. But sometimes I wish I went with the miata. Either way I'll eventually own one of those too. Great video!

[@stms4411]

Glad to hear someone finally offer the criticism of the Hyundai’s manual. That and the cartoonish exterior styling is a disqualifier for me. Spending more doesn’t always buy more fun…..drove a 981 boxster s for 3 years and it was definitely worth 43k and selling it for 5k less after nearly 3 years, but my gr86 is more playful than the Porsche. Lightness is one of the bigger priorities for me now. I own that gr86 and an ND2 Miata. Have heard people wax poetic about the CTR (and I know their lsd is impressive), but I can’t muster too much enthusiasm for it or the Acura when my two pre owned rwd masterpieces cost me $65k together. Good analysis and video

[@krustyk98]

I come from Honda CRV and Toyota SUV, When I got my job, I aimed instantly for the FL5. Glad I found the best car.

[@boastfultoast]

Wow did not think the integra would be on here instead of the wrx. I recently picked up a 26 gr86 and am loving it. Went thinking through most of these in the process leading up to that purchase. Good video, quality narration

[@bearclaw5115]

You mean a 2024 GR86?

[@boastfultoast]

@@bearclaw5115 yeah a ‘24 gr86

[@cyon-p3h]

Great video, the summary is well balanced and full of useful information on helping people choosing a sports car that suits their need. This series have sparked the idea to own an MX-5 again but as a second car this time around. My reservation is that I live in a rural area and commute to work in a long stretch of straight roads, how much fun will I get out of an MX-5.

[@brianr14190]

Just installed ITS damper module on CTR. Made a big difference in reducing stiffness and made the ride more compliant. I now understand why so many people change the damper module. Feels like a much more livable car. I think my wife will enjoy riding in it now, instead of just willing to ride in it before. I think I will be keeping the CTR for a long time. The Miata was fun with the top down experience. I did not prefer the amount of body roll. With the top up and cruising at 80 on the highway, it was loud and did not feel as stable as other cars. Also, even though I am retired and do not need a super practical car, I could not even put golf clubs or fishing pole in the Miata easily. However, I understand why people love the Miata, but it just was not for me.

[@mrmonday42]

Just found this channel because of your Zygrene video. I feel like his Integra may have influenced the rankings a bit ;-) Great choice by the way, ND3 is what I would choose as well, but I would probably stretch my budget for a manual Supra....this is why I'm not a financial advisor

[@williambergen9948]

Just bought a Type S. I am in the North East and was able to get over $3.2K off list plus some free accessories. Great car, but understand the price is a little steep, even with the discount. With that said, no regrets on my part.

[@dipastick]

Just picked up a type s for 48k before ttl

[@Vidslistchannel]

Woah that's a sick deal. New? Where at?

[@genzigzag]

My friends ask me why I don't drive my RCF... the answer is always Miata 😂

[@kovaji8212]

I think you made the right choice. Outside of a race track I think the ND (especially the ND2/3) is one of the most fun cars you can buy. I've owned some slick cars (including 911 C2S and GT350), and the Miata is as fun or more fun than those cars on most roads. And it's so much cheaper to buy, operate and maintain. Enjoy!

[@wholeNwon]

The destructive influence of FOMO extends to other things in life. Be careful. Be prudent and you'll be all right.

[@bearclaw5115]

Take chances and bet on yourself and you'll be all right.

[@postalpancho]

I keep seeing reviews of affordable sports cars and people seem to continuously forget the BMW 230i M sport. It never has mark ups. Fully loaded it is under $50k easily. Tuner friendly, back seats slightly larger than the Mustangs back seats, the b48 has already proven it is a reliable engine, and can be optioned with ELSD and big brakes. So many people keep on forgetting about this car because it lives in the shadow of the M2.

[@Realistick]

It’s not really a competitor to these, nor does it have a manual transmission option which was what kept it off of my personal radar when make this series. I’ll try to review one as soon as I can!

[@Reala27]

Love my GR86! Fun, quick, affordable, it has a head turning factor where people really notice it. Can't beat the balance, more comfortable than one would imagine, and there is enough practicality. I've had multiple people in the back seat, so its doable, though certainly not the most comfortable. lol

[@bearclaw5115]

I'm leaning GR86 for the same reasons, great car!

[@oemj7147]

You can't fit people in the back seat of a GR86. I should know since I own one. The car might as well be advertised as a two seater.

[@Reala27]

@oemj7147 i did a trip from Pittsburgh to Cleveland and back with 4 in the car. Not exactly comfy, but it's doable.

[@oemj7147]

@@Reala27 I can't imagine how that would be possible. Maybe if the driver and passenger in the front were under 5 feet tall. I could not fit a 5"1 kid in the back seat with two people slightly under 6 feet in the front no matter how much I tried. There is literally no room for anybody with legs to seat in the back if the front seats have average size adults in them.

[@Comptonjuju81]

Type R gang !

[@AngelValdovinos]

No quality

[@TheOnlyMrDinoHenry]

My life doesn’t make sense for an MX5 but I almost bought one. I agree with your thesis, the car to remember internal combustion by

[@evanloudenback3700]

Best point you made, the Miata is unlike anything else on the market, in the best way possible. Combined with the affordability, reliability, and that sweet sweet transmission...Miata is the answer 👍

[@brianr14190]

I have owned the Miata, GRC and CTR all this year. Fortunate to get all of them at MSRP. I traded in the Miata and GRC and still own the CTR. All of them are great cars, but enjoy the CTR the most. Just nice that we still have a lot of good choices below $50k.

[@bearclaw5115]

Owning all 3 in a year means you have a pretty legit opinion on these cars!

[@joeb4294]

Congratulations! I've been thinking about getting an MX-5 for a while. I'm holding out to see if Mazda offers some more interesting color combinations of the ND3 in its final years. Or, maybe I will be intrigued enough by the presumed "NE1" to hold out for that.

[@theapplepaul]

'You have chosen wisely'. Great video!

[@lash9400]

I just test drove a BMW 230 I with the m sport package, yes it’s auto only but it’s a serious enthusiast car. Loved it 😊

[@bearclaw5115]

Just saw one today in purple. Looked awesome!

[@oemj7147]

They are nice indeed but auto only is a significant drawback.

[@Kraize92]

LOL. I was stuck between the GRC and CTR for month and then I decided to upgrade from my NB Miata to an ND Miata and have not regretted my decision. I also had no need for a practical 4 door as I already had another one.

[@clubracer6]

I am trying so hard to cut back on my automotive subscriptions, but you’re making it hard. Great job and choice if you went MX5. With the money you save you can pick up a cheap 2nd daily if needed. Old E46/E90 insert something from Asia as well.

[@604parkour]

Seems like there is a car for every excuse. I try to enjoy as many different vehicles as possible, while also ensuring I keep my resale strong in what I choose.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I was recently trying to talk myself into an ITS, but I would have needed to trade in my truck. Then a Miata low mileage NC Miata showed up on Marketplace with exactly the spec I wanted nearby. I was there in a hurry.

[@maximus9401]

Not that it matters the least bit what I think, but I'm glad you went with the decision that you did. A type R would have given you a close (even though it's quite different) experience to the GR Corolla. To trade out of one practical, great handling FWD biased high revving turbo hot hatch to another, you would have been disappointed. You went with that car that felt special and offered a unique experience completely different to what you had before. That's the right thing to do no matter what car tickles your fancy. Just a heads up though, you'll want another practical daily (ask me how I know lol)

[@djkenny1202]

Too bad there’s not many or any sub 25k performance cars?! I miss the hot hatch era of yesteryear, when $12,000 ones were available, with some lower. When do we get a performance Versa, Fit (if it still was around)?

[@banimanFJ]

As a fellow GRC owner, I would have liked you to stay, but the ND Miata is always the right choice.

[@Young_Bourdain]

Type R is almost unobtainable at MSRP and can’t be driven in the climates I face in the winter. The GRC or the WRX STI (used) were my only options. I went with the new GRC last year and it’s been amazing. If I lived in a warmer place I would try to get a Type R.

[@dasmg]

the Type-R is definitely the choice here, i have an FK8 and i can't really find a car i'd like to trade it for, and a few of these cars in your list i'd really like to own as well.

[@sl0907]

Keep it. It's a great car and friendly to the wallet. I see fk8s still being listed for similar pricing as lightly used mk8 golf Rs.

[@dasmg]

@@sl0907 i really do love it, i just always want to try new stuff. Unfortunately I don't think any of the RWD options sub 55-60k really do it for me, especially considering i didn't have to pay mark-up for this car in the first place.

[@asphalthedgehog6580]

The answer always is: as light as possible. Acceleration, top speed and torque is fun 2 times. After that only feel, fun and cornering counts. Had a Golf V GTI. Quite simply: boring after 2 weeks. Own a Miata since 2011. Boring, ever? Are you kidding?

[@1Icehawk1]

All you really need is a FL5 and a ND, I've owned both and it's my perfect garage for a realistic budget. Have the FL5 now but need another ND to fill that RWD gap.

[@mattd7902]

Great series! Thanks for

[@LoveLikeaHurricane]

Condolences to those that missed out on fk8. It’s pretty much the fl5 but slightly more compact and better suspension tuning (pre-2020)

[@Vipes-lj5po]

I was between a used ND2 and a GR corolla and I went with the miata. The loudness is really the only issue I have with it and I plan on getting some nice comfy audio earplugs to keep in the car.

[@thefamilydog4115]

That feeling at the end? I get it. I think about trading my 2020 Miata I bought new constantly due to its impracticality for an Integra Type S. The miata is much more of an A to A car for me which substantially limits how often I can drive it compared to a fun A to B to A car that can get me and others around. It feels impossible to let go of, but I can't deny how infrequently I can drive it compared to a more all-around car, so I get stuck driving my pickup most of the time

[@fmc7209]

Do you not drive as often mainly due to lack of space to carry things/people?

[@miken4348]

Type S with an aftermarket spare tire is the ultimate daily driver. Next step up is a Porsche.

[@janoycresnova9156]

That's quite a step up. It's that good?

[@KeithSchwerin]

@@janoycresnova9156 When really the other competitors are all auto only, Porsche is the only other option to step up to for manual unless you want to over spend on what BMW wants for an M3. If it was still being made I'd say that a GT350 would be a nice mid step.

[@luisjalvareztorres8481]

Using Type S and Porsche in the same sentence is wild.

[@dannyoconer6645]

I own a civic type R and yes it’s a blast and the speed can be fixed with a tune

[@shamalabadingdong]

How does the gr corolla have a wider variety of settings than the N? From electronic suspension to active exhaust, there's way more configurability on the EN side.

[@Realistick]

It's more fun in a wider variety of settings (settings as in places), the GR works well no matter the weather or road surface!

[@shamalabadingdong]

@@Realistick ah got it. Misunderstood the wording. Overall pretty solid list. I would add a value category imo, but that would definitely change the order of the list. Here in Canada, gr corollas and fl5's were going for 70-80k while an Elantra N was 41k. It was a no brainer because I could realistically buy a c6 corvette and an Elantra N for the price of one of those. To me, value is as important as anything else because the money I spend in one car could be money that goes to another

[@keithjackson4985]

Good video, man.

[@josebelisario9669]

Surprised the WRX was not included in this list given what it offers for the price in the base and premium trims. While it may not be the best performer on tarmac, it's still fun and it trounces others when off road.

[@Realistick]

You're definitely right. I wanted to include the TR, but I was under 25 and Subaru's insurance policy is apparently too strict (just got press approval after my recent birthday). I also tried to get ahold of a modified VB, but I couldn't get it to work out.

[@chestnutpuck]

Pounding my fists shouting MIATA at the end and sweating lol

[@tomdoe1234]

At 6'3" I get it but for anyone normal height the Miata is #1 by far. The trunk is big enough for shopping runs. Toilet paper no problem front seat. At 5'10" it fits like a glove no issues here with space

[@arodledood]

very cool stuff brother!!

[@sbklvr]

I love my FL5.i traded my Porsche in on it and i couldnt be happier.

[@bbeboarding]

the mustang looks like someone asked AI to make a mustang... i miss the FOST and FIST days

[@BigTimeRushFan2112]

I owned both a FoST and a FiST. Attended Ford driving school after both sales too (2017 and 2018) out at Grantsville Utah. Fun cars!

[@mattz28si]

I always wonder if anyone actually thinks the new Mustang looks good.

[@bbeboarding]

@@BigTimeRushFan2112 i sold my fist last october, that thing was a riot. Looking to replace it with a veloster n or elantra n.

[@AbleMable]

Yep! I had a FiST.... Best car I've ever owned. I horribly regret trading it in 😢

[@AbleMable]

​@@BigTimeRushFan2112FiST > FoST... Test drove both back to back, and it was a no-brainer to go with the FiST! Felt more engaging than it's bigger brother

[@wranglerlife4ever42]

Just for fun, I would have liked to see a WRX and a Dodge Hornet RT. It would be interesting to see how these 2 cars would score. I know the Hornet is a flop and Dodge cant give them away, but curious what the score would have been in this pack of cars.

[@4drturbo85]

Great video. I owned a 2023 Hyundai Elantra N with a manual transmission. I sold it about a month ago. It was all paid off. I really enjoyed driving the car. BUT I couldn't grow to love the looks of it I think when you buy a car you really have to love the way a car looks. The 2024s look worse in my opinion. The clutch was very weird mainly from a dead stop in first gear. The octane learning was a joke. Vehicle didn't feel that quick. So I'm trying to figure out what I should buy to replace it. Still looking. I was looking at miatas and joined a Facebook group. Seems like a lot of people are having transmission issues with the Miata. Synchro issues were they get a new transmission replacement or warranty Not sure when Mazda's going to fix that but it seems like a lot of people with 2023s are having that problem. The Civic Type r is a great car looks great in the front but the rear looks horrendous. I'm not a fan of all this new tech in these cars. Taking my time as prices continue to go down. Especially with a Nissan z. Lots of dealerships are having trouble selling those. Would love to get a new Miata as well but not sure on the reliability with the transmission I don't want to have to have it at Mazda for a new transmission a bunch of times like some people have

[@Realistick]

The transmissions aren’t built to handle extra power, people like to turbo them, people like to track them hard, it’s easy for them to get abused. I heard about some failures with the ND1 but not in huge numbers. I haven’t heard much about the ND2 issues (outside of a brief google today) so Ill look into it more for my next video but most owners love them and don’t have problems. Unless you’re planning to boost it, treat it with some degree of respect and you shouldn’t worry about it being a regular at the dealer.

[@Raj-kt7db]

How does the NB compare to the ND3? Considering buying one a few years after I graduate college but I wanna keep my expectations in check. For context, I have a 2001 LS now.

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Great reviews

[@dhesh0066]

I gotta say, out of all the cars on this list, the only car I would trade my GRC for is a Type R. I still don't think I would ever do that though I love the Corolla so much 😅

[@JOSH-f4h4b]

Cool video and comparison, lost me at the elantra lol. agree with the rest at least the ones ive driven. Elantra seems to get so much love on youtube but i cant see it at all

[@joshuagraham3222]

I’m a little surprised the WRX didn’t make the list. It’s a bargain for the car it is.

[@TheGreekCarGeek]

Great video!

[@303MoTo]

Thoughts on the upcoming 2025 300hp Toyota 86, or the 2025 AWD Celica?

[@TheGoodBoy219]

great job man

[@pferkler9426]

Great video, but you forgot the WRX?? I'm 6'2" but 215 lbs wonder if I'll fit in the MX5? I did own a S2000 for 5-6 years so likely the same size inside would you say?

[@Rythsi300]

If you can fit in one, the ND3 is the car to get.

[@ontarioman6301]

WRX is a bargain in Canada when compared with GR or anything else. AWD to boot

[@boogieofbnt3192]

I got out of my MX5 because its cupholder situation is unforgivable😭. You just need 'em man

[@Realistick]

We’ll see about that🥸

[@Saboda53]

Funny, but count me amongst those who LOVE those cupholders! Driver’s one hangs nice & close on the passenger side if you’re driving solo (which I do 80% of the time), and it then moves to between the seats with a passenger. Deceptively clever. But wait, there’s more! If you want more space, you can stow both of ‘em in the lockable cubby. Or just pull ‘em out and leave them in the garage. Finally, pick one up in your hand and examine the thing closely; it’s a little work of art! Deceptively simple, it’s somehow both light AND sturdy. Look at the finish; it’s a quality piece - a small bit of sculpture. And to think all this was conceived and executed for the world’s tiniest, least cupholder-friendly cockpit! That’s smart engineering. Typical Mazda thinking. In a word: brilliant! ❤️

[@vlj1133]

If you need cupholders, use the MX-5's supplied cupholders. They work just fine, especially when you're driving solo. It's not that difficult.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

NCs are still nice cars.

[@Hiker1987]

No Mazda 3? Bought 2025 manual trans and loving it! 2.5l NA and only 3086lbs

[@vr6gls]

Why not include the MK8 GTI on this list? Especially since you included the Golf R. Some people find the GTI to be a bit more playful than the R, and it’s cheaper than the Elantra N, Civic Type R and Integra Type S.

[@Realistick]

I would agree that it’s a little more fun but I choose the Golf R for the series as it was more in-line with the CTR, GR Corolla and Integra Type S.

[@layne4376]

Playful v.s. giant killer. The R is in a completely different league than the GTI.

[@vr6gls]

@@layne4376 Not really. The Golf R is only significantly faster than the GTI from a launch. From a rolling start, there isn’t a huge difference, the Golf R is slightly faster. Let’s also not forget that the FWD GTI Clubsport is faster than the AWD Golf R around the Nurburgring.

[@shamalabadingdong]

@@vr6gls we don't get the Clubsport here in NA unfortunately. And honestly I don't think the GTI we get stacks up well to the competition. The GTI is only cheaper than the EN in its lowest spec (S). The EN comes fully loaded, only has one model. Every other trim level of the GTI is more expensive.

[@PeteR90468]

Just watched your Si video right before this. How would you compare the Si to the Type R? Ideally, I'd buy the Type R because its the better car, but it's a little to much of a stretch financially.

[@Realistick]

The type r is in a different world in terms of performance. Though, if you’re not planning on tracking or modifying it, the SI is a much better buy. You’ll save a ton of money in fuel, tires, brakes and obviously the purchase price too! If you do plan on pushing limits, save up for the Type R🤠 (or get a used one). The SI has most of the feedback and a good shifter so it’s rewarding on the road, it’s just not going to replace the type r for certain needs. Best of luck.

[@j.v.0.t855]

6:11 Ah yes, driving in the 86 going at the exact “pee limit”.

[@justinczternastek5346]

Buy both, problem solved

[@andywithout]

The Mustang is an icon the others not so much, Mustang 💯🐎

[@KeithSchwerin]

As a '19 Bullitt owner that paid 49K for his car new, I can tell you right now the SAME options and power are NOT worth spending about 60k on a '24 GT for. The '24 is a 2015 interior with a massive iPad and the power of a 19-23 Bullitt or Mach1 for THOUSANDS more. Unless you really like the new look (which other than front/rear refresh is still VERY much a 2015, and I personally DONT like it) you'd save like 15-20k to get a lightly used 2019-23 GT Premium, and just spend $2,500 to put on the Ford Performance Power and Handling kits.

[@andywithout]

@@KeithSchwerin Well, maybe I did not explain myself. I have a GT Premium 2018 with 30k miles; it’s my dream car, so maybe I am a bit biased; I did not buy it new, and I would not buy any other car new ever again. I bought my first car (VN), and buying a new car doesn’t make sense. Now, I agree the interior in the new GT 24’ is a bit off and the screens scream Chinese car; I hate that interior too, That’s why I would never change my S550 if they didn't bring back the Mustang interior. I agree on everything you said; my comment was just to say that Mustangs are icons, and yes, buy always a very good used car instead of a new one.

[@Sonic_1000]

I ended up with a 21 Supra 3.0 and a 24 Mustang GT 10 speed. I just can't do the cars that are so much slower than the Z. Speaking of, drove a new Z, liked but did not love.

[@xelawash]

Excellent choice! 💪 Miata👊

[@paulgemperlein626]

How tall are you? I'm 6'5" and feel Miata is out of my height range but otherwise love 'em, especially the RF. Hard to beat a powered automatic hardtop in addition to everything that a Miata brings to the table in the first place.

[@BitcoinTo100K]

You’re stuck with BRZ /GR86 if you want a car like this unfortunately

[@Realistick]

I’m 6’3, if you’re really skinny, it might work with a soft top (less meat on the legs makes you sit a little lower). Otherwise, you are probably going to need to look at the Toyobaru twins

[@ontarioman6301]

I couldn't fit in the Miata. 6 ft 3 inches

[@ontarioman6301]

I do fit in the BRZ

[@jacksparrow5281]

Thanks I’ll keep my 2019 370Z

[@johnss2k434]

Sold my type R after 3 years for what I paid for it new. If you can get one for msrp go for it!

[@dennisthewalker]

Now that you a 6'3 miata owner such as myself. (I daily my NC1 miata) How are you going to address the headroom issue? Lumbar support? Etc?

[@Realistick]

We shall see, thinking about a lowering bracket but Ive barely looked into it. I just pushed the seat back and tilted it forward when I drove it for the series and I was alright, not great.

[@dennisthewalker]

@@Realistick Can't wait to see what you will do to the Miata!! btw...will you been selling the GR Corolla? kinda interested in it. haha.